WarRoom Battleground EP 855: I Went To Prison So You Don't Have To

Summary

Podcast Summary

Podcast: Bannon’s War Room
Episode: WarRoom Battleground EP 855: I Went To Prison So You Don't Have To
Date: September 23, 2025
Guests: Dr. Peter Navarro with host Steve Bannon

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Overview:

This episode centers on Dr. Peter Navarro’s arrest, imprisonment, and the broader implications for political dissenters in the United States. Using Navarro’s book "I Went to Prison So You Don’t Have To" as a springboard, Bannon and Navarro dissect the weaponization of the justice system against MAGA allies, reflect on their prison experiences, and issue warnings of escalating retribution if political power shifts. They emphasize that their experiences are a cautionary tale for everyday Americans who support the MAGA movement, insisting that "they’re coming for you next." The episode is personal, combative, and urgent in tone, designed both as a narrative and as a rallying cry.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The MAGA Movement’s “Historic Days”

[00:53] Steve Bannon: Opens by highlighting recent, intense political events:

• Charlie Kirk’s “first MAGA state funeral,” Trump’s “fiery remarks,” and the “antifa terrorist designation” signing.
• Cites Axios editors who praise Trump’s first-term accomplishments as historic, even more than FDR’s.

“There has never been more accomplished in any first year of any presidency in the history of the United States of America, including FDR.” — Steve Bannon quoting Axios, [02:50]

2. Navarro’s Arrest and the Message

[05:01] Peter Navarro: Describes his arrest at Reagan National Airport:

• 5 armed FBI agents detained him and his fiancée Bonnie (“Pixie”) for a misdemeanor.
• TV crews were tipped ahead—“CNN knew they were coming for me before I knew.”
• Navarro frames the action as an attempt to humiliate and break him.

"They needed, they thought they needed five armed FBI agents to take us. It was just a show... The CNN cameras were ready." — Peter Navarro, [06:28]

• Navarro links his and other MAGA figures' prosecutions to a broader strategy of targeting dissenters.
• Stresses the importance of accountability as “the sixth stage of grief” in reaction to Charlie Kirk’s assassination.

[08:52] Peter Navarro:

• Identifies individuals (DOJ, judges, FBI agents) by name as instrumental in his case and others, calling out specific “politicians in black robes.”
• Argues the justice system is weaponized against MAGA allies.

"If they can come for me, if they can come for you, they can try to kill Donald Trump... bankrupt Mike Lindell... take away the livelihood of John Eastman, Jeff Clark, everybody, Steve, that I was in the White House with has suffered." — Peter Navarro, [05:44]

3. “Humiliation as a Tactic”

[12:26] Steve Bannon & Peter Navarro:

• They revisit the public shackling of Navarro at the airport despite his misdemeanor charge; contrast this with norms for white-collar crimes.
• Bannon: "They did this to break you and humiliate you.”

[13:56] Peter Navarro:

• Details the traumatic impact on Bonnie and draws parallels to aggressive DOJ tactics toward families of other Trump advisers.
• Emphasizes the simplicity of the MAGA platform (end endless wars, fair trade, secure borders) and claims it is under attack.

4. The D.C. Courts as “Kangaroo Courts”

[17:29] Steve Bannon & [18:18] Peter Navarro:

• Navarro provides a detailed critique of the D.C. federal court system:
  • Describes Judge Amit Mehta as a political operative seeking higher judicial office.
  • Laments inability to investigate selective prosecution or fully present executive privilege as defense.
  • Notes heavy political bias among jury pool.
  • Argues the appeals process is not random and systematically hostile.

"It's not about the law. That's the point." — Peter Navarro, [24:10]

5. Prison Experience — “No Country for Old Men”

[33:20] Peter Navarro:

• Narrates his approach to prison with strategic preparation:
  • Maintained a daily diary, took care of his health, served as a “clubhouse lawyer” for inmates.
  • Divided prison ethnic/economic groups and the danger for high-profile political prisoners.
  • Describes the loss of freedom in granular detail: routine, “counts,” strip and cavity searches, the psychological impact.

"Everything you do, they own you... You have no freedom of your micro... you are a prisoner, you are a convict, you are an inmate. You're nameless and faceless. You got a number." — Steve Bannon, [39:09]

[42:28] Peter Navarro:

• Shares "darkly comic" anecdotes from his first night: freezing temp in Miami camp, resourcefulness with minimal amenities, culture of inmates helping newcomers who don’t “snitch.”
• Describes persistent dehumanization and the dangers of being a Trump associate in prison.

6. Calls for “Accountability”

[48:19] Peter Navarro:

• Urges listeners to read his book as both a cautionary tale and a call to political action:
  • “If they can come for me, they can come for you… and it’s even worse than that—they’re coming for you.”
  • Stresses the need for MAGA supporters to drive the book to bestseller lists as a symbolic stand.
  • Describes the book as both serious and “funny and interesting,” promising revealing anecdotes from inside prison.

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Notable Quotes

• “This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we’re going medieval on these people.” — Steve Bannon, [00:03]

• “I went to prison so you won't have to is really, I think, a manifestation of what I think must be the sixth stage of grief... the sixth stage is accountability.” — Peter Navarro, [05:23]

• “These bastards put you and I in prison. They tried to put Donald Trump in prison. They tried to kill him twice. They killed Charlie Kirk, and they went after every single person I served with in the White House who was a senior adviser. And they call us fascists. How dare they?” — Peter Navarro, [11:38]

• “You have no freedom... You’re nameless and faceless. You got a number.” — Steve Bannon, [39:09]

• “For the War Room posse, the top line of this is if they can come for me, they can come for you... And it's even worse than that. They're coming for you.” — Peter Navarro, [48:19]

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Memorable Moments & Timestamps

• Arrest at Reagan National [05:01–08:50]: Navarro details the scene, humiliation tactics, and Bonnie’s perp walk.
• Naming DOJ/FBI actors [09:41–11:38]: Navarro lists the officials he holds responsible by name.
• Exposure of Prisons [33:20–38:39]: Navarro recounts staggeringly harsh and absurd prison conditions with humor and candor.
• Bannon on Dehumanizing Prison [39:09]: Bannon delivers a monologue on the existential loss of freedom.
• Micro-details of daily life [42:28–45:25]: Navarro describes strip search, freezing dorm, and the rhythms of prison life.
• Final call to activism [48:19–51:13]: Navarro emphasizes buying the book, learning the lessons, and mobilizing supporters.

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Structure & Resources

Where to Find More:

• Book: [Amazon, “I Went to Prison So You Don’t Have To”]
• Website: [peternavarro.com] (relaunched)
• Social Media: Getter, Twitter (@realPNavarro)

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Tone & Language

The tone is combative, dire, and populist—calling on the MAGA base to see legal actions against leaders as direct threats to themselves. While Bannon and Navarro inject dark humor, the content is driven by grievance, warnings, and intimate details supposedly from behind bars. Their dialogue is direct, informal, and intentionally provocative, blending political strategy with personal memoir.

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Summary for New Listeners

If you haven’t listened, this episode tells the story of how Peter Navarro was arrested and imprisoned following the events of the Trump presidency, describing the intense, humiliating, and often surreal tactics used against him—all allegedly as an example to cow political opposition. Navarro and Bannon argue that these actions are a herald of things to come for ordinary MAGA supporters. The episode blends personal storytelling with policy critique and a mobilizing call for political retribution—“legally and permanently.” The stories from prison focus as much on the loss of identity and daily indignities as on broader themes of justice, freedom, and accountability for perceived overreach by the “regime.”

Key takeaway:
Navarro’s and Bannon’s experiences are shared as a warning and rallying cry: the legal pressure on Trump-era officials isn’t exceptional—it’s a template for suppressing all dissent. The episode pleads for supporters to spread this message, read the book, and prepare for intensified political struggle.

Transcript

[Steve Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. You just not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything.

[Peter Navarro]

In the world to stop that, but.

[Steve Bannon]

You'Re not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go.

[Peter Navarro]

To share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.

[Steve Bannon]

I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

[Peter Navarro]

War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

[Steve Bannon]

It's Tuesday the 23rd of September, the early year of our Lord 2025. And I can't think of a better way to end, really. A couple of historic days, starting with Charlie Kirk's, the first MAGA state funeral on Sunday, particularly with President Trump's, what I would say is fiery remarks coupled with what happened yesterday in the Roosevelt Room, which was nothing short of historic. Then on top of that, the signing of the antifa terrorist designation and then President Trump today going into the lion's den, a complete and total throwdown against the globalists. It was a. The last three days have had a different intensity, even in the most intense term in American presidential history. That's not me saying that. That's Jim Vanderhe and Mike Allen, the two guardians of the conventional wisdom in Washington, D.C. the imperial capital, the founders of Politico, the founders of Axios, and now still the chief editors of Axios. They're bringing peace today about the Trump presidency. I got it up on getter. It's breathtaking in the fact that Jim Vanderhe says flat out there has never been more accomplished in any first year of any presidency in the history of the United States of America, including fdr. Pretty big from a liberal progressive like Jim Vanderheim. Just flat out one of the key architects of that. And a dear friend and colleague is Dr. Peter Navarro in this amazing book that you have to read because Hakeem Jeffries told you folks yesterday, because they're being forced into a corner, they have to say this. They're going to have to do it. He said, hey, look, we're taking notes and all of you guys are going to prison as soon as we take over the house and then win the White House. So Peter Navarro's book, I went to prison, so you don't have to believe me when I say this. They are coming for you. Okay? They're using Trump and Navarro and Bannon and others, Alex Jones and others, as just guys getting in the way. They're coming for you as they came for Charlie Kirk. Okay, Peter, I want to start off. I always wanted to do an hour, and we were going to do it up live, but the assassination of Charlie Kirk, it was in remembrance of him. We decided to delay that. I want to go. I want to start this off by talking. When I say one of the most, I think, important days in our movement and one of the blackest moments in American history, was your apprehension by the FBI at Reagan Airport. I want to go through detail, including what happened to our. To Bonnie, one of the finest women I've met, because you're just not any person. You have been the architect of President Trump's kind of trade and manufacturing policy. You were brought into the campaign before he won the primary to actually add some heft and some. And some focus and some detail and some more substrate to President Trump's economic plan to bring jobs back here to America. Your entire adult life, and including with the administration, was about putting citizens of this country, the country first and citizens first. And there's so many families out there today that owe not just a Donald Trump, but to yourself. And I want. I want you to go through in detail and tell. And this is one of the reasons you got to get the book, tell people what was in your mind, what happened. Reagan National Airport is one of the busiest, not just busiest, airports in the country, but it's so many prominent people, congressmen, senators, media people, prominent donors, go through that airport all day long. The FBI did something to you to humiliate you and break you as a man. Break you as a man. And it shows your toughness and the fact that you can't be broken to this incident. Talk to me about it.

[Peter Navarro]

Well, Steve, you and I, we didn't bend when they sent us to prison. We didn't break. That's who we are. I went to prison so you won't have to. It's a book about me and Bonnie. Our Prison Diaries. It's a foreword by the great Steve Bannon. But the book's not about you and I. It's not about Bonnie. It's really about this unprecedented attempt to come after people, put them in prison, kill them, bankrupt them. And I went to prison, so you won't have to is really, I think, a manifestation of what I think must be the sixth stage of grief for Charlie Kirk, you know, they always talk about the five stages of grief, but the sixth stage of grief, Steve, is accountability. Because if they can come for me, if they can come for you, they can try to kill Donald Trump, if they can kill Charlie Kickstarter, if they can do all of that bank, try to bankrupt Mike Lindell, try to bankrupt Rudy Giuliani, take away the law, livelihood of John Eastman, Jeff Clark, everybody, Steve, that I was in the White House with has suffered in some way by that targeting. And we must hold them accountable. And I went to prison, so you won't have to. As a book about naming names, I mean, we know who they are. When I say they, we know exactly who they are. In my case, it was all the members of Congress with a D beside them. Same for you. It was the Attorney General Merrick Garland, the U.S. attorney, Matt Graves, the prosecutors John Crabb, Elizabeth Aloy, the judge Ahmed Mehta, the appeals court judges Patricia Millette and Cornelia Pillard. And with Donald Trump, it was Comey Clapper, Page Strzok, all these people we talked about. But for me, you're absolutely right to start as I went to prison, so you won't have to. Starts in the first chapter with the takedown that fateful day at Reagan National Airport of my sweet fiance, Bonnie. I call her Pixie in the book. If you ever meet her, you'll know why. Five armed FBI agents took us down in a gangway on what was one of the happiest couple hours of our lives before we got tried to board that plane. And I think people need to understand a couple things. First of all, this was a misdemeanor. Second of all, white collar crime. Bonnie's about 411 with heels on, 95 pounds. I'm like 74 years old, 145 pounds. And they needed, they thought they needed five armed FBI agents to take us. It was just a show. And the funny part about it is, darkly comic, Steve, is that I actually at the time lived right across the street from the FBI as a field goal kicker. Back in the day, I could literally kick a field goal from my balcony over to their porch. That's how close they were. So they had. The CNN cameras were ready. The CNN knew they were coming for me before I knew. And leg irons, handcuffs, they put me in John Hinckley's own old sell and made a point of telling me that you had been there. Like there was some equivalence between standing up for the Constitution and trying to kill a president. And so it went. And what this Steve What I went to prison, sir. You won't have to is a book about how they try to take us out using lawfare, the weaponization of. Of government. And they can come for anybody. See, that's the message. You watching this show. They're coming for you. I'm not saying they can. They're coming for you. If they get back power. I mean, these people, these people who would. Who would literally dance on the grave of Charlie Kirk while his body was still warm, is the grossest kind of signal. That's signal, Steve. That's not noise. That's signal about who these people are and why we must protect ourselves. And the only way to do it is hold them accountable. And we're not doing that, Steve. We're not doing that at anywhere near the pace we should. Now, the other thing I should tell you, Steve, about that whole arrest is there was a very important historical figure who took me down, a guy named Walter Giardina. At the time, I thought he was just another FBI agent kind of unwilling to speak up against the tyranny of that agency at the time. But it turns out, through the efforts of Chuck Grassley and FBI whistleblowers, that this guy Giardina is actually. I call him the Forrest Gump of the FBI because he was literally involved in every single attempt to stop Donald Trump from getting elected or to throw him out of office once he was in. And he was like, according to whistleblowers, the guy who read the Steele dossier, which was a fake document launching the Russia hoax, paid for by Hillary Clinton. Indisputable fact. He was one of the FBI agents that gave it its blessing, said it was true, and that set off Crossfire Hurricane, which was the Russia hoax, hoax, hoax, hoax. And then he was on the Mueller effort, the witch hunt of the Mueller report. And then he was on Operation Crimson river, which was a license to get the phone records and emails of everybody in the administration. And then he was on Arctic Frost, which was all the J6 takes down. And he was the guy, Steve, that put me in leg irons, put me in handcuffs, knocked on my door at dawn with subpoenas, testified. I would argue, reading the transcript, lied about what things happened there. And Grassley called him out on that just recently. So it's a heck of a start to the book. I went to prison, so you won't have to. And look, this is an important hour for us, Steve, because we got to get to the real meat and bones of this. Because you and I went to prison, they call us the fascist, Steve. How dare they? These bastards put you and I in prison. They tried to put Donald Trump in prison. They tried to kill him twice. They killed Charlie Kirk, and they went after every single person I served with in the White House who was a senior adviser. And they call us fascists. How dare they? We're coming after you, folks. We're coming after you. But the difference is we're going to do it legally and we're going to hold you accountable for what you've done, which is illegal.

[Steve Bannon]

And we're going to do it permanently. Yeah, and we're going to do it permanently because you're not coming back to power. That we can guarantee you. Okay, I want to go back to something, though, because people don't know. Being shackled and then putting leg irons publicly, it was a misdemeanor. The FBI knew where you were, your lawyer. They knew. They knew everything. They could have called you in and said, meet us at the office and we'll do this. It's a misdemeanor.

[Peter Navarro]

Yes.

[Steve Bannon]

It's a misdemeanor.

[Peter Navarro]

Yes.

[Steve Bannon]

They knew this. They did this to break you and humiliate you. That, to me, is such a. When you get the book, you're so enraged by the opening of it, you just blow through this book and you get angrier and angrier. And that's what we want you to be. Because we're not going to make changes unless the people in the country understand this ain't about Navarro. It's not about the president. It's not about Steve Bannon, Charlie Kirk or anybody else that they came after. Alex Jones, all of it is about this audience, because they're coming for you. They hate what we stand for. They hate this political movement, and they're not going to stop. And that's why this book, I think, Peter, is a tremendous primer. And as soon as I saw the draft of what you did, I said, hey, we got to do this at Warren Books. I want to do this because I love this book so much. Not just it's got the side story, you and Bonnie, which is inextricably linked to the whole thing, but it is a warning to everyday Americans about what is coming and what you will be treated like. Sir.

[Peter Navarro]

Well, one of the most unforgivable things that they did was to Bonnie. I still remember when they're surrounding us with their guns and things like that in the gangway, just holding her to me and telling her that everything was going to be fine, and then watching her get perp walk Steve. Perp walk through an airport in front of the world. And it's like, that's the thing. It's like Jeff Clark, when they went to his house, right, they scared the hell out of his kids and his wife. It's like, no, you don't do that. There's no humanity there. And so what we must do is get people to understand that what we stand for is very simple. The MAGA is very simple, Steve. It's an end to endless wars. It's, it's fair trade and it's secure borders, and that's all we stand for. And if we get to that, everybody in this country, regardless of party, is better off. And instead what they do is declare war on us. And so like in the book, it starts out, you know, the other, the other thing that was so interesting about my situation is that I never should have been put in prison before my appeal was heard. It's just like they arrested me, put me in prison for a misdemeanor with 200 felons. The normal case when you get convicted for a misdemeanor, which has profound, constant constitutional implications, which is a case that would likely be overturned on appeal, is you let the person stay out. And we're in a situation now, Steve, I don't even know this, but the two judges who said I had to go to prison because there were no appealable issues on this, on the appeals court, Patricia Millett, Cornelia Pillard, two appeals court judges right here in D.C. they have ruled by sending me to prison that I have no appealable issues. Guess who's sitting on my appeals panel of the three judges, same two. And so this is, this is stuff. And I went to prison so you won't have to. You find out things like, hey, if they arrest you, if they, if they charge you, you don't get to argue to the jury. Your defense. My defense was, hey, the President invoked executive privilege. It was my duty to the Constitution to refuse that subpoena. I had 50 years of department of justice policy behind me, and that friggin judge, Amit Mehta, ruled that I couldn't utter the two words, executive privilege in that courtroom or be held in contempt and go to prison that way. So they were going to get me either way. I mean, that's like the book itself. I mean, look, it's Kafka. It's, it's a little bit of catch 22, Joseph Heller. It's a lot of Stephen King. And it's, it's something that I hope that the posse Here will be a force multiplier on. You need to get this, get this and read it. But get a couple of. Get it in the hands of everybody you can.

[Steve Bannon]

But.

[Peter Navarro]

So we can. Yeah, we can hold these people accountable, Steve.

[Steve Bannon]

But, but hang on, hang on, hang on. I want you to go in because I want the audience to understand this about. And this is what they use against President Trump. Talk about the D.C. federal court system, because I think people out there in the rest of the country have no earthy idea. No, this is. It's so rigged. I had no earthy idea. I'm not a lawyer. I avoided going to law school. You know, I use a lot of lawyers, retain them. I had no earthly idea. People kept telling me about D.C. the federal court and the appellate court, the circuit court. It just kind of went in one ear and out the other until I saw it. I go, holy mackerel, Are you kidding me? This is what to talk to them about. This is why they chose to come there about President Trump. Walk through the D.C. court. What the nation needs, what you show in the book and what the nation needs to know.

[Peter Navarro]

Sure, sure, absolutely. Show the D.C. corps is actually kind of interesting because it's often a stepping stone to the Supreme Court. There's a number of justices who were in that court, either the district level or the appeals court. It's all in the same area and building. And the problem we face around this country is that there's just a lot of what you call politicians in black robes. In other words, these are the people who have somehow been annoying at judges and all they do is advance political agendas. So this guy, this judge, his name is Amit Mehta, and he basically used me in the course of that trial as a way eventually to get. He wants to be the first Indian American on the Supreme Court. And the way he got seated, Steve, is interesting in and of itself. He was a bundler, you know, you of all people know what a bundler is. Campaign bundler for Obama back in 2008. And he parlayed that into a seat on the court. And somehow this fiction in America that somehow somebody who's like, worked their way up the ladder, curried favor with a political party to get a judgeship, some suddenly puts on the black robe and abandons all politics and becomes this, this all wise person. It's nonsense. It's absolutely nonsense. So I get in, I get in this courtroom and it's like every ruling this guy made, there wasn't a single ruling that he ruled in our favor. And I had two very good lawyers writing very good motions. We never got it. So I wanted to know, for example, why they prosecuted me and not Dan Scavino and Mark Meadows. I mean, glad they didn't, but strip away everything. We were charged with exactly the same alleged crime, refusing to testify. It should have. That's it. Okay. There's no mitigating. They should have been charged, but they didn't. I tried to get discovery to figure out why. I tried to get discovery about who ordered my leg irons arrest, how far up the chain it went, Chris Wray over to, I don't know, Matt Graves, maybe up to Merrick Garland. We needed to know this to argue selective prosecution. They wouldn't let us do that. They wouldn't let some of our witnesses come in. We had somebody who. And then the worst part is this whole notion of they just ruled that I couldn't argue executive privilege. That was my defense, but I couldn't argue it. And we got the judge to hold what's called an evidentiary hearing. And he. Over the course of almost an hour, I established, on five different occasions, the privilege had been invoked. And then at the end of that, he goes, well, wasn't good enough. And so by that, it's like, I couldn't. I couldn't argue the case. And then the jury. Steve, this is like crazy stuff, right? You saw this. I'm in voir dire, right? And I'm knowing that 95% of the jurors, because they're drawn from the voter pool, voted for Joe Biden, right? And some of these jurors, prospective jurors, are saying, well, I don't like Trump. And then the judge would always say, do you think you could be objective? They go, oh, yes, I can be objective. Okay, you're on the jury. And the one. One or two people we had that looked like they might be fair, the prosecutors understood it as well. So they were gone. And so this was the same court that got all the J.6 people, sent them to jail without any bail, made them. Made them spend time before they were even charged, continually overcharged them, put, like, long prison terms on. I mean, in a fair trial, I would have been acquitted on the basis of executive privilege. Even if I had been convicted, it would have been probation and not imprisonment. And that's not what happened. And there was one. There's one funny story in the book. I went to prison, so you won't have to. About how the jury's deadlocked, Steve, in your case, they went out and they came back in, like in record time, right? Guilty, ban and go to jail, whatever. With me, there was like at least some, some suspense, Steve, where, where hours went by and we're thinking, oh, this is kind of interesting. And the judge lets the jury go outside the courtroom for what, a walk? They wanted to get some, quote, fresh air. And they got some fresh air right in the middle of all the protesters out there with signs like jail Navarro, hang Navarro this, that and the other thing, they get back in and like, I don't know, eight minutes later, it's guilty verdict. And we said mistrial. And the judge, of course, said, well, no, there was. They were peaceful out there, so no mistrial. So the other thing I should tell you is like, okay, so we get convicted. You and me get convicted. We had. I don't know, I think there's seven times we appealed different things. And those two judges I referenced earlier, Millet and Pillard, either one or both of them were on every single appeal. And there are only three judges on appeal that you and I had, Steve. So this idea that the appeals are random is just nonsense. And I mean, these people, I don't know where they got their law degrees. Really. Up the back of a cornflakes box or something.

[Steve Bannon]

It doesn't hold it. What do you mean? It's not about the. It's not about the law. It's about politics.

[Peter Navarro]

It's not about the law. That's the point.

[Steve Bannon]

It's a kangaroo court. And they're so obvious about it. This is one of the reasons you get so infuriated as you read your book. And folks, this is not going to change even by the time Trump's out. You've got to go back now. One good thing I've heard is about the depends for the judges. I'm hearing from US Attorneys that there may be some whole question of that. But the D.C. district, it's a totally rigged game. I mean, we had a. I had a judge that was. I had a judge that he had actually worked on his confirmation. He's a Trump judge. He was homeless. He wasn't as bad as yours. Yours was insanely over the top and clearly hated you. Right? But here's the thing. These people never in a million years thought we were coming back. They never. If, if, if you had take the brave, the judge and Peter Navarro be back in the White House. Are you kid. Donald Trump would be back in the White House. Steve Bannon would be yelling and screaming on his Sharvi day. They had no. I tell you What? 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[Peter Navarro]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Peter Navarro]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Peter Navarro]

Of the new pin.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, Peter Navarro's with us. By the way. I'm putting up stuff on Getter all the time and so is Diana. Dr. Peter Navarro. You can get all his kind. Not all his kind. He's on Twitter and these other big platforms. Peter, now I want to pivot from how you got there in the rig system and they came at you for a misdemeanor, which by the way, in every other case in American history has been civil. But for Nur and Ben, it had to be criminal. Right, Because Pelosi wanted us to go to prison. I might add that everybody associated with this in the house that condemned Peter Navarro and sent over to the Justice Department, sent him to prison in a rigged deal, all crawled on their bellies to get pardons. The staff, all of it, for pardons. And I'm not so sure those pardons are going to affect. I'm pretty sure they're not going to hold, but I'll get to that later. I want to talk about now, prison, the proudest moment I've ever had because I didn't really know all the details about your arrest at the time, but the proudest moment, dude, is when you walked into prison and stood before those sticks and just I said, that's the Peter Navarro. No, you made it about a issue bigger. Here's you're 70 some years old and folks, prison is federal. Prison is dangerous. It's very dangerous for anybody. But for guys in their 70s who go into federal prison, having been senior executives in the United States government, and particularly with President Trump, they're sending you in there to get fucked with. Let me be blunt, okay? Pardon my French. That's what they're doing. And I was so proud we covered it live. You went up to those sticks. You were just the fighting bantam rooster. You always are. Tell me about prison, particularly the night before. Nervous? All of it was the book. Tell me, sir.

[Peter Navarro]

See, that was a. That was a surreal experience walking there. It was from the heart, and I really thank you and Rav for covering it. And then the bookends of that is like, I walked out of prison on July 17, I think it was 1am and wound up on the stage of the Republican National Convention, basically telling these people who had put me there for four months to go to hell, that we're going to win that election and going to be held accountable. Prison, Steve. It's what it called the book no country for Old Men, but that title was taken. It was an interesting experience, but I think that you and I both spent our time in a way which was useful for the American people. I think the Democrats will regret sending me to prison because I uncovered what was a $4 billion scandal with respect to how Donald Trump's signature prison reform, the First Step act, was not being implemented. Essentially, the BOP was breaking the law. You know, I got in there, the funny story, the first couple of days, and there's a lot of funny stories, as well as a lot of blood and violence. Unfortunately, I'm in there, I'm out in the yard, and these three guys surround me, and I'm thinking, you know, what could go wrong here? And they're broken English. One of the guys says that they like me, and I go, why do you like me? And it's like, because you didn't snitch. And I kept a poker face, but I'm thinking, I'm laughing at my ass off inside, thinking, what's the moral equivalence between me not talking to Congress in order to honor executive privilege in the constitutional separation of powers and not snitching on your gang member when you just robbed whatever it was. And, you know, there were those kinds of experiences. At one point, I did arguably save one guy's life. There's a story in the book about that, how I got him to a hospital on an emergency basis. Really, really moving story. And then just like the prison economics, how they screw you at the commissary with higher prices, how the food I lost 12 pounds, Steven. I didn't have 12 pounds to lose. The medicines there. They don't give it to the inmates. So guys who were on meds coming in and they don't get their meds, they flip out, and there's difficulty there. But, you know, look, before I went in, I talked to Paul Manafort, and as bad as you and I had it, Steve, he arguably had it worse because he was arrested and held without bail before he even got to trial for a long time. And they really punished the crap out of him. But. But he stressed the importance of working. So every day I wrote the diary, which became the book. I went to prison so you won't have to. And every day, I took care of my physical health as much as I could, given the constraints of the diet. I was like Switzerland in there. We had 200 people in there. About half of them were from Puerto Rico. Because I don't know if you know this, Steve, but Puerto Rico doesn't have federal prisons to speak of because there's too much corruption down there. So they send them over to the mainland. And so this idea that I was in, like, a camp, you know, can we joke about that? But most of those folks were in for drug running, fairly significant drug offenses, often them with guns. You had, like, the Haitians, who were always kind of like the Internet fraud. The white guys were the white collar crime, like killing people with Oxy and stuff like that, or ripping off Medicare. And I just. I was able to move seamlessly through that. I was called on to arbitrate some disputes which could have led into violence. And I became like the clubhouse lawyer for the First Step Act. When guys needed medical care, I was the guy that called because I was the only guy who could take risk. If people did what I did when I was on the inside, they did what's called diesel therapy. They'd be out the door the next day, and they'd be on a bus moving from Atlanta out to Oklahoma or wherever for months on end. So, look, I made the best of what was a bad time. And if now on the outside.

[Steve Bannon]

Hang on. But talk to us about. I want to put us in there. When you first walk in, give us the experience. Like in the book. You first walk in, talk about the cause you're transitioning from. People don't understand this.

[Peter Navarro]

Yeah, yeah.

[Steve Bannon]

Peter was in a camp, but it was a quite dangerous camp. I was actually in a prison. When you walk in, you have no freedom. This is the thing I want people to fully understand. And it should Scare this audience to its core. Yeah, Peter Navarro and Steve Ban. Pretty tough guys. I'm telling you, when you walk into a prison, you have given up. When I say given up. Your freedom, you have. It's not just freedom. I can't go see the family. I can't run around. You go to Starbucks. That's not the freedom I'm talking about. All of your. Everything you do, they own you. You do. You have no freedom of your micro. In universe, you are a prisoner, you are a convict, you are an inmate. Okay? You're nameless and faceless. You got a number. And the cops in the, in the corrections officers and the administrators and particularly not only don't care in many situations, particularly given the fact that you're a Trump acolyte and associate aren't ready to give you a group hug. So walk me through. I get about 10, 12 minutes here. I want you to go through. When you walk away from those sticks and go through there, it's a difference of night and day because you're going from. You can do anything you want. You can walk to the refrigerator, you can go, go here, you can go there and cut the TV off. You can read a book, you can call somebody on a phone. That's all gone. You lose all. Not your freedom to go to Hawaii or something like that. You lose your freedom of your own person. Peter Navarro.

[Peter Navarro]

Yeah, Steve, it starts with like, how do you prepare for that day? You walk in, because I had some responsibility, things like paying the mortgage, taking care of pixie, making sure everything on the outside was done. You got to prepare your contact list in advance as the people that you could call or email because they really, really constrained that. So you're like, you're like in this frenetic kind of thing, trying to get ready for that day. You walk in and you walk. I go from the sticks in my flight jacket after a address in the world essentially into a holding area where they take you in, you strip down, they do the strip search stuff. Everything you own goes into a bag and a packet. And you're not going to.

[Steve Bannon]

Hold it, hold it, hold it, Hang on, hang on. It ain't a strip search. It's a strip search means cavity check. Okay? Yeah, a cavity check. It is as much to humiliate you as to make sure that nothing that you're bringing in, you're not bringing anything into prison. So folks be prepared to grab them, right? And have cops there and everything. This, the entire experience is made to humiliate the entire, the entire experience is made. They're trying to. They're trying to. The process. They're trying to break you and make you docile, okay? They're trying to institutionalize you. And they've got a whole system, the Bureau of Prison got a whole system of how that's going to happen, Right? But you're going to be theirs. You're not going to be yours. That's the one thing you have to understand when you go in mentally, that you must keep your person about you. You must be focused. That's why, for me, it was an amazing experience. It's like being in a foreign country. When you go to the exhilaration of being in a foreign country, everything's new and everything's different, and your senses are more on alert. Your senses have to be to the 10th power because you're in an environment where they're trying to control you on one hand, and it's quite dangerous, given the general population on the other. You got to be like in a Zen total focus or you're going to get crushed, sir.

[Peter Navarro]

And there was always the danger there that because I was a Trump guy and you had it too, they could take you out. The first couple of days are the most dangerous because that's when the other inmates are checking you out. But the first night was a darkly comic nightmare. There's a chapter in I went to prison, so you won't have to called it the coldest summer I ever spent. The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in a Miami prison. Because this. This is like the darkly absurd kind of thing. I go into my Dorm and there's 50 guys in there. They're all, like, looking at me. You know, it's like checking the Trump guy out. And I'm about 10 minutes in there and I start, like, my teeth are chattering, and I go, what the hell's going on here? It was like 59 degrees, Steve, in this dorm in Florida. And I would find out soon that lightning had struck the electronics of the thermostat. And they didn't spend 100 bucks to fix it. So instead they spent several thousand dollars a month more, basically running the air conditioner full bore. So I'm like, you know, so, like, just freezing. I saw my first taste of humanity there too, as well, Steve, because the inmates, the culture there was when folks came in, if you passed the test of not being a snitch, and they had ways of going on the legal websites to figure out whether you had snitched or not, if you passed that test they would help you get your sneakers and maybe a T shirt and some, some running, running pants, whatever, until you were able to get the commissary. You know, like I get in there and commissary just by chance is like shut down. I won't be able to get the commissary to get anything for three weeks. So again, darkly comic stuff. I'm combing my hair literally, Steve, with a fork. And it's like, you just try to get into the rhythms and they take your freedom. Let's be clear about it. There's five counts a day, right? At every one of those counts, you had to be by your bunk, standing at attention with your mouth shut. They come by and give you that look like you're a pos. And if you're not there, you're, you're, you're going to the shoe, to solitary. And at night, part of the counts, they come, flash their lights in your eyes to make sure you're breathing and stuff like that. And we, you know, you and I joke about what's better.

[Steve Bannon]

No, no, no, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. All night. All night. All night long. All night. The counts go at 10 o' clock midnight, 2, 3 times they come in, they put that flashlight. They put that flashlight right in your face, right? They're going to make sure that you're.

[Peter Navarro]

Yeah. And it's like. And then you try to find your rhythms. The problem we had, one of the problems we had was we had a particularly aggressive. The sis, These squads that would come in and toss the units and break, break stuff, looking for contraband.

[Steve Bannon]

Well, they're doing, they're doing that, they're doing that for drugs. The place, okay, the place, the place are fested with drugs and phones. You can't have either, right? And this is why you have SIS raids constantly enough.

[Peter Navarro]

In my, in my, my place, there wasn't a lot of drugs. There was some marijuana, but they didn't have the case stuff that you smoked that turned you into zombies, which we had K2. But the point is that there was one guy I love this guy Zach. He ran the laundromat. Really hard working guy, busted for the drugs and the gun and all of that. But he's trying to set his life straight. He wouldn't have joked for me a joke that all they're looking for is stuff that you can buy in any 7 11. And it was true, the phones and things like that. And there's a funny story again. I try to, I try to. I did the diary every day, kind of religiously. Sometimes like at 2 in the morning, I'm standing up and there's no computers or any of that stuff to do this stuff. And I go to get a dental exam, which was hilarious in and of itself because they were going to see if I had any dental work that needed to be done. And if I did, I wouldn't get it for another year when I was long gone, right? But this guy looks at, looks at my lips and he goes, you know, you're getting a little dryness there. It's prison. And he goes, you better get some sunblock. You need an SPF of like at least 70 or 100. And I go, sir, it's like the only thing they sell is at the commissary is like, it's like a 30 sunblock. You know, you get fried out there. And he goes, well, don't worry, just go to Walgreens. And I go, dude, I called him dude at that point, it's like, I'm in prison. You know, knock, knock, you know, who's there? And stuff like that.

[Steve Bannon]

I got a couple minutes. Hang on, hang on. I got a couple minutes left. This has been amazing, but I want you to make directly to this audience why this book, you need to buy this book and, and why you need to read this book, and why you need to embrace the lessons of this book, Sir.

[Peter Navarro]

For the posse, for the War Room posse, the top line of this is if they can come for me, they can come for you. If they come for Steve Bannon, they can come for you. And it's even worse than that. They're coming for you. They want power back and they're coming for you. And this book, it's the sixth stage of grief for Charlie Kirk. It's. We have to hold these people accountable. So I want, if you would please, posse, like represent here. We got to drive this to the bestseller list and make a point. Because if we don't make this point, that we're going to hold you accountable. They're going to do this as soon as they get power back. So that's the top line of the book. But it's also a story that's, that's just, it's, it's funny and interesting. You want to know the answer to, to what's it like to go to prison for a misdemeanor that you didn't really commit and be put in with 200 felons for a nice 4 month vacation? Read the book. And the other thing, Steve, look, I Haven't talked about this, but I actually went in there and I uncovered the scandal associated with the First Step act that Donald Trump passed in 2018 where it's not being enforced. I put my policy hat on, my investigative reporter hat on. I figured exactly how to save this country $5 billion and lower the rest of rate by not just that. Yeah, I got that.

[Steve Bannon]

But you know what you're going to do.

[Peter Navarro]

I've done exactly political force. What I said needed to be done.

[Steve Bannon]

President Trump and Peter's people should know. Peter and what he's doing over BOP with Jared and some other advisors is monumental in trying to get this mess sorted out because it is a mess. The guys running BOP will tell you that they're prisons. More importantly, this is why I put out the statement. I think it was 29 in either August or September. I came out and said President Trump was going to win. Only time I ever put anything from prison, I think it was six weeks before the election. Trump's got this because of my understanding of the prisoners and what Peter's talking about, the first step back. President Trump is kind of revered for what he's tried to do on these mass incarcerations. We gotta bounce. I want to know where to go get your writings, your editorials, your coordinates on social media and the book. Sir.

[Peter Navarro]

Well go to Amazon right now. Buy one for yourself, buy one for a friend. Amazon.com, i went to prison so you won't have to. And by the way, I just debuted got my old peternavarro.com website back up. So that's your one stop shop for all my social media for the book and everything like that. And I can't thank you enough Steve for writing the forward to I went to prison so you won't have to for publishing this under the War room brand and for having this hour long thing be a force multiplier posse for us. Because what Steve and I are doing is not for us, it's for you.

[Steve Bannon]

No Peter Navarro, we're going to end with the right stuff because I'm telling you this is a guy that's got it. That kind of indescribable just grit, determination, patriotism, all of it. A great American, a historic American in the book is historic. Buy it to see what happened but put the lessons inside because guess what? It's not Trump. Bannon and Navarro. They're coming for you hard. We'll see you tomorrow morning, 10:00am Eastern Daylight Time when you will be back in the war Room. Hey, we're human. All too human. I don't always eat healthy. You don't always eat healthy. That's why doctors created Field of Greens. A delicious glass of Field of Greens daily is like nutritional armor for your body. Each fruit and each vegetable was doctor selected for a specific health benefit. There's a heart health group, lungs and kidney groups, metabolism, even healthy weight. I love the energy boost I get with field of greens. But most of all, I love the confidence that even if I have a cheat day or wait for it a burger, I can enjoy it guilt free. Because a field of greens, it's the nutrition my body needs daily. And only field of greens makes you this better health promise. Your doctor will notice your improved health or your money back. Let me repeat that. Your doctor will notice your improved health or your money back. Let me get you started with my special discount. I got you 20% off your first order. Just use code Bannon B A N N O N at field of greens.com that's Code Bannon@Field of Greens.com 20% off. And if your doctor doesn't know how healthy you look and feel, you get a full money back. Guaranteed. Field of greens.com code Bannon. Do it today.