
WarRoom Battleground EP 861: “Trad Catholic Inc.” In Shock As “Pope” Leo Confirms He’s Just As Non-Catholic As “Pope” Francis...
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Good evening. Harnwell here at the helm on Steve Bannon's War Room. Packed, packed show for you guys today. Coming up, we'll be discussing the Louisiana defrocked priest who was just being arrested for raping a 10 year old boy, disabled boy in a wheelchair with autism. We will BE Discussing President Trump's invocation of St. Michael the Archangel, what that might mean. We'll also be discussing a senior appointment in the Vatican for the Pontifical Academy of Fine Arts where Pope Leo has appointed a strong LGBT TQ advocate. But that's not only where his undermining of cath Catholic doctrine is taking place right now. Liz, your you have the latest on this astonishing interview that Pope Leo gave to to EW10 and EW10 correspondent. It was a spontaneous thing. Before we break it down, why don't we have a quick look at exactly what Pope Leo said in his own words?
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With Cardinal Cupich giving an award to Senator Durbin, some people of faith are having a hard time with understanding this because he is pro, or rather he's for legalized abortion. How would you help people of faith right now decipher that feel about that? And how do you feel about that?
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That I'm not terribly familiar with the particular case. I think that it's very important to look at the overall work that a senator has done during, if I'm not mistaken, 40 years of service in the United States Senate. I understand the difficulty and the tensions, but I think, as I myself have spoken in the past, it's important to look at many issues that are related to what is the teaching of the Church. Someone who says I'm against abortion but says I'm in favor of the death penalty is not really pro life. So someone who says that I'm against abortion but I'm in agreement with the Inhuman treatment of immigrants who are in the United States. I don't know if that's pro life. So they're very complex issues. I don't know if anyone has all the truth on them.
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I'm going to come to Frank in just a moment for his response. But let's start with you, Liz. This is absolutely astonishing on so many different levels. Here you have a man recognized as pope, Let me put it like that. A man recognized as pope, the successor to St. Peter, the earthly guide of the the Catholic Church, making this claim that. And there are so many things, I mean, you could basically have the whole show digesting what he just said word for word, but basically saying, or literally saying that if you are anti abortion but pro death penalty, you're not pro life and if you are anti abortion and anti invasion, you're not pro life. There's a huge mix up between what the Catholic Church teaches as faith and morals and what the Church teaches as a prudential issue. For the non Catholics listening, prudential issues are those issues where Catholics of good faith can disagree. They agree on the fundamental aims, but they're legitimately allowed diverging opinions on how to get there. Classically, the immigration policy would be considered prudential. That is to say, it's up to individual Catholics in good faith to decide how and what, if any, that level of immigration should be. Whether you support the death penalty or not, I think might be prudential. Abortion is absolutely not prudential. But what you cannot say is that, that the death penalty is against Catholic teaching. Liz, why don't you sort of take a step back and explain where we might have heard the some of these ideas before that Pope Leo exposed there in almost word for word perfection. Where have we heard these ideas before and what does that mean for the future direction of this papacy?
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Well, first of all, I think this is Leo's who am I to judge moment. That's what I think you'll recall when Francis was asked a question about homosexual behavior in the clergy and he said, who am I to judge? I would call the headline of this scandal, Leo exposed Cupich burned and Durbin canceled. You know, Bishop Papocki, who actually was One of the 10 bishops who said that this award brings a scandal to the church, had no idea that this was going to bring scandal to the entire global church when Leo decided to way in and he walked right into it. And I think the Catholic Church needs to wake up. This is a very revealing teaching moment. Leo knows darn well what's going on in the American church. And I thought it was very interesting, wasn't it, when he said, I'm not terribly familiar with this case. And then he began to list all of the things that he knew about the case. He knew that Dick Durbin was a senator for 40 years. He knew his position on the death penalty. He knew that Durbin was a big advocate of open borders and illegal immigration. I would argue, you know, check out Leo's blink rate when he starts responding to this question. He dug himself into another Bernardine seamless garment moment. And the outrageous moral equivalency of arguing that abortion and euthanasia are equal to the death penalty and illegal immigration is outrageous. And calling people who support the death penalty that they're really not pro life. I mean, look at the overall work of Dick Durbin. He received 100% favorable rating from Planned Parenthood supporting laws that would not provide assistance for born alive babies who were the victims of abortion. And he's calling this a complex issue. I don't know if anyone has the truth of them is what he said. And we need to find a way forward to. For the Catholic Church. Look, I mean, this is absolutely outrageous. And he is saying, he is saying we need to dialogue on this issue. Remember, this is a favorite word of Leo's dialogue. And for example, in my opinion, abortion and illegal immigration aren't the same because unborn children in the womb cannot dialogue on their behalf. Unborn, helpless children in the womb are. Are murdered by suction or scalpel, mutilation or poisoning. They can't dialogue. The illegal immigrants are not only given free lawyers, they're given a paid trip back to their home country. And you know, unborn children in the womb aren't given a jury of their peers like people in death penalty cases. Unborn children can't appeal their sentence. Sentence. They can't protest. They don't have public defenders to advocate for them. Frankly, it is the uncatholic. It's uncatholic for Leo to even attempt to make these Weasley UN arguments, these Weasley satanic arguments by Joe Bernardine, who not only pushed the. This agenda, but was a sexual predator. You know, we have to start talking truth to power. And look, Leo walked right into it. He has nobody to blame himself. I mean, the timing on this is quite interesting. Had he waited a few hours, this award was pulled ultimately because of the firestorm that it created in America. Had Leo waited a few more hours, it would have been a moot point. But look, Leo is a carbon but.
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He didn't, but he didn't wait. He rushed in and he left this. He, he put a flag down. I mean of all the liberal progressive, you know, national Catholic report type platitudes, he didn't come out with. It's probably the only one in his, in his, in his response there was that, you know, you guys, you pro life guys only care about babes before they're born and you don't care about them the moment. That's the only thing he didn't say going through his list. Frank Walker, let me ask you now this because you spend a lot of time, in fact I think you are the point guy that, that I would certainly highlight who goes through religiously what all of the Catholic media are, are up to in their breaks and their analysis on this. Tell me one thing because there had been a couple of people coming out. Bishop Strickland who was removed by Francis. Let's see whether in Texas, I think it was Texas, wasn't it? Let's see whether Leo gives him his diocese back. But you had a couple of people coming out and going quite heavily on Cardinal Cupich for this, this award on, for Senator Dick Durbin and he had a lot of trad Inc. In the media doing so as well. And then Leo comes out. This is the guy was supposed to be not judging. This is the guy we're supposed to be waiting to see how the papacy gun unfolds. Give, give him time to get his feet under his head. He comes out and gives Cardinal Cupich the most vociferous full throated endorsement on everything. What are the people who just been criticizing exactly the same declarations against Cardinal Cupich going to do now that that publio has come out and repeated it? They're in a somewhat of a quandary now, right?
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Well they, they haven't had a hard time crying about it. They're, they're saying things like disgusting, disgraceful. They've all turned, all of a sudden they've turned on Leo. And I think that, that hopefully they're going to stick with that. They're going to keep telling the truth. But it's amazing how far that Leo has fallen because they painted him as a Catholic. They painted him as sort of like I know, a Pope Benedict Catholic. And now perhaps it's a mistake on his part, perhaps it's bad politics, but because this happened in conjunction with this Cardinal Cupich where they made such a strong defense of Catholicism at the same time it puts him right there with Cardinal Cupich is one of the most despised bishops among Catholics and in the church. I mean, there's others that are maybe despised almost as much, certainly others as despicable as Cardinal Cupich. But he's the one that, is the one who'll step out there and do what he did with Cardinal Durbin. Remember with me with Senator Durbin when they were trying, when the, when they were, the USCCB was having their meeting and they're trying to make pro life a preeminent part of their, of their position. He fought them tooth and nail. And so now here he is, this Pope who's supposed to be more Catholic and he's actually turning out to be. I think, I don't think that it's so much a mistake. I think it's purposeful. I think he's angry about what they've done with a Cupich. I think he is a cupich and he's teaming up with him, trying to throw some clout, put some weight behind what soup which is in the face of all of this Catholic pushback. So I think that from now on people are going to know that Leo and all these traditional writers have to know that Leo is a Cupich. He's the Cupich pope. Not only he's completely on the same position and he's different than Francis in that he has said doctrine can be changed by attitudes. And here he is now a week later from the interview saying that I'm not really sure, but this is, this is. You're not pro life if you, I'm not really sure about illegal aliens, but you're not pro life of you're for the death penalty. That's not church teaching. That's against Aquinas himself. The death penalty protects lives. He never considered that. You know, it, this, this is a, this is a disgrace. Like, like.
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But on that point, on that point, on that point, Frank Walker, what exactly does he mean when he says that Americans should search together for the truth on ethical issues?
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Well, I know Cardinal Subich responded with a big long letter because Dick Durbin has pulled out of that event. At the same time, everything's happening at once. So he pulled out of the event. In a two page response, he ends, Cardinals ends with saying, well, we need more synodality. We need more, we need some of that synodality in order to make Leo's change of doctrine and the attitudes that must precipitate it happen. Obviously you people need more synodality. What we need is Catholic leadership somewhere in the church. We need a leader, a pope who actually expresses, I mean doctrine hasn't disappeared. There's still a billion people out there that believe it and but these guys are pretending that they can change it. And that's not going to go over. All that's going to do is destroy the Catholic Church. No, we don't need any more synodality. And this is a great example of what synodality is all about. It's about death.
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Thanks. Stand by because we're going to come back now to you to break down some of the developments in our little corner of Christendom. But I just before handing over before, before we do that, I, I want to highlight an analysis on everything that we've just been speaking about by Chris Jackson. I know we mentioned him from time to time on the War Room on this slot, on this 6pm slot. I just want to one quote, the real betrayal is that traditional media kept their readers from seeing this Pope Leo intervention coming. They knew it, they hid it. They mocked those who spoke up. Every single person in this article is someone that we would have put a question mark. Thanks, Denver. That's the article I'm talking about. Every single person listed in this article is someone that we, that we, the Warren might have said just pay attention to these guys because they're more interested in conditioning the news for you than telling you the news and letting you make your own mind up. And they're doing this because the grift implications the only person in this article who's named in a positive sense is Liz Your, the War Room's very own Liz your and that's because here on this War Room we have within the first 24 hours been alerting and warning people to exactly what this, what this pontificate represents and why Leo was chosen. And I say, as I said last Wednesday, I'll say it again, the three sources I think are the War Room, Chris Jackson and of course Canon 21 2, Frank Walker's very own website, which I do very strongly recommend you folks as a go to source every day and I look at it myself every day. So when inflation jumps, when you hear the national debt is over the $37 trillion, do you ever think maybe now would be a good time to buy gold? Whether as a hedge against inflation, peace of mind during global instability, or just for sensible diversification. Birch Gold Group believes every American should own physical gold. What you need to do if you if you want the special booklet that they have produced is text Bannon to 989-898 and Birch Gold will help you roll an existing IRA or 401k into an IRA in gold. So that's. Once again, Birchgold is the only precious metals company that we at the War Room Trust, as do tens of thousands of their customers. So make right now your first time to buy gold. Text Bannon to 989898 and claim your eligibility and free info kit. Again, that's Bannon B A N O N to 989898. So moving on with the show, one of the headlines that I saw this week, which, which shocked even me, and, you know, I thought my beady, cynical eyes had seen it all. There's a priest here, former priest, defrocked priest here in Louisiana who has been arrested for raping, repeatedly raping, starting when he was age 10, a disabled boy in a wheelchair with autism. Frank Walker, tell me about this case, and is it really as horrific as it sounds?
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Yes, it is quite horrific. I question whether, I mean, how uncommon these kinds of things are, actually. But when you read about it, it's just awful. It's this priest, Father Mark Francis Ford. He's no longer a priest, but he had a group founded to help disabilities and through this disability group. And this is the kind of thing that you've seen before with Jane Vanier and Jimmy Saville. People who have groups of children that they, that they care about and they have, this is sort of to protect their, their proclivity. So he, yeah, when he was 10 years old, he met this boy and he had sex with this boy. He's, you know, he has a spinal deteriorating spinal condition and he's also somewhat autistic. He is classified as a juvenile permanently. Now he's 31 years old for, I think for 16 years, he molested this boy. And somewhere along the line in this article, it says that he left the priesthood, but they don't say why. And then he went into the government. I'm not sure if. I don't think he was a priest necessarily when he went to the government. He started with the Democrat Blanco government in New Orleans and then with Bobby Jindal's government when he was governor, so it didn't make any difference. And he's supposedly part Indian. And so he moved into helping both, you know, indigenous people and, and, and, and disabled children. But if you look at the picture of him, it's quite striking because he needs to be extradited from, I think, from Indiana to New Orleans. The look on his face. He does not look, sorry, he looks like he's got such, it's sort of a frightening attitude to see the look of this guy's face, he's charged with first degree rape, second degree kidnapping, sexual battery and indecent behavior with a juvenile. And this is all in the context of this big, a New Orleans bankruptcy case. And they're, they're replacing now they've $230 million they've offered in bankruptcy. And we talked about this before at your show, but they're replacing Archbishop Amon, who has a history of accusations in his seminary that are also gruesome. The bishop, the archbishop, they're being replaced with Bishop Checchio, who is a McCarrick, another McCarrick bishop who Leo has put in place, you know, more evidence. This guy, this guy ran the Pontifical North American College which is like the bishop making college where 10% of the, of the students were, had AIDS, you know, and, and he's, and he worked together with McCarrick and there's just a lot of stuff on Checho. He's not going to be, he's not going to be any good. And it's all part of the same thing.
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The reason, Frank Walker, that we, that we mention these developments, these stories on the show is not to create scandal, but to warn faithful Catholics that the people who ordain these men, the bishops who ordain, who choose these men, specifically these men for ordination, they sift out all the good guys with strong Catholic faith. They say, no, you can't, we won't make you a priest because you're too rigid. The people that they go ahead and ordain these people, right, these bishops, these are the people that expect us to docilely, docilely submit to their authority. And that's why we mentioned these stories on the show. Not to create scandal, but say to the Catholic faithful, these are the people, the men that expect us to docilely submit to their authority have been doing this, enabling this, covering for this for decades, for decades and decades and decades. And that's why we on the Warwind say that we have to take the governance of the laity needs to take the governance of the Catholic Church out of the bishop's hands and into the hands of well formed believing laity. Because we will certainly stamp this sort of thing out. Frank, moving on. I know we, we've got, we've got a break coming up in just a couple of minutes, but I do want you to, if you can just tell us what happened in My Beloved. There are so many horror stories, but we're not gonna have time for the, for the, for the one in Switzerland, sadly. But My Beloved Homeland, there's a guy in, in a, at a riot in Birmingham who was saying, who the F is Allah? Now you might not approve of the language, you might not approve of the swearing, you might not approve of being deliberately provocative towards another religion. But what has happened to him in the uk, Frank Walker?
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Well, he's been, he's been convicted of insulting Islam which is sort of like what they call blasphemy laws. So he was in, he was, they said he was a leader of the rallies, a big burly guy. He, he's a paver or a tarmac or. They said, and he, but you know there were people throwing things, there are people waving sticks and hurling, they called missiles at people. He's only, he only was yelling at the police. And this, who the F is Allah is recorded. And this is what they got him on. Because you know that is illegal. I don't know if it would work the other way because you can't pray in front of a borcheware even silently in the uk. I think that these laws are all one sided. Yeah. And he was very sorry in the court, you know, but I wonder, I wish that his testimony could actually say what he thought because what are they supposed to do and why? My question is why are these things happening in this country? I know it's because of the crime, but I think they're looking and they're saying we have to yell at the police because we have no justice and they're Islamicizing our country and they can see now what it's going to become. And I, I think it's like, it's like this stage back from a war.
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So, so the, the, the, the, the, the, the background of this is that Nathan Poole who's as you say, a 32 year old tarmac layer, that is to say a blue collar worker regular guy has been jailed for 30 months, folks. He has to be a guy, a working guy protesting in Birmingham, which has a huge ethnic minority majority, has been sent to prison for 30 months because he said who the F is Allah? That's where we are in the UK now. It is, it is a Sharia state. That's it. If you are implementing, using the secular laws of the land to protect and defend the integrity of Islam, that makes it a Sharia state in all but name because they have the arithmetic, the Muslims have the arithmetic and the Catholics and the Christians and evangelicals in the UK are so few in number now. We don't even create a ripple when it comes to legislation. There are no blasphemy laws to protect Christians when you have these great art installations, and we'll talk about that just after this break, but you have these art installations which are clearly blasphemous, clearly outrageous and designed to generate social media engagement because of their provocations towards figures that Christians esteem in holding great reverence like Jesus Christ, like his blessed mother, the Virgin Mary. There are no blasphemy laws to protect Christians there. Blasphemy laws, yes, to protect Islam from offence that is the modern day United Kingdom.
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Of the newfound welcome back. Well, last week something that I said created a lot of discussion on X I noticed, and it wasn't very complimentary towards myself. It was referring to Charlie Kirk wearing a medallion of St. Michael the Archangel. And I happen to say that I think this is the work of the Holy Spirit. That evangelicals, some evangelicals, obviously not all, some evangelicals, are finding some spiritual consolation in the traditional Catholic devotionals. And they ripped me a new one on X. They said, han, well, you don't know what you're talking about. No evangelicals are getting any sustenance from, from these, from your, from your popish magical amulets and all the rest of it. But I still, but I, but I hold very much to this. I think that the Holy Spirit is at work. And I think it's beautiful to see that some evangelicals are getting some spiritual riches out of the traditional Catholic devotionals. And I'm perfectly happy for this to be a two way relationship, that Catholics can also be enriched by some certain evangelical practices. I say that as a former Protestant, I think the evangelicals do certain things better than Catholics and that we would be stronger if we were able to learn from evangelicals. And this is something that I've long thought that the problem with ecumenism over, over the years, over the decades has effectively been. It's been the Catholics who don't believe a word of their faith getting together with Protestants who don't believe a word of their faith, producing meaningless, unreadable declarations about how much they all hold in common. Well, of course they, they hold lots in, in common, principally that neither of them, none of them believe any words of their own faith. It's just a grift, it's just a shtick that they use to put a roof over their heads and food on the table and social reputation of being in the clergy. But there's no real faith there. And what I would like to see is traditional Catholics. The humanism I would like to see is traditional Catholics coming together with believing evangelicals, especially in the public square, especially to fight for the issues that are important to Christians. So that's something else I would actually, I would, as I was saying in the first part of the show that we need to take the management of the laity, the Catholic laity needs to take the management of the castle running of the Catholic Church into its own hands from the bishops. And the other thing I would like to see, one of the other things I would like to see is, is an ecumenism where traditional Catholics can embrace conservative evangelicals. And I have no problem when evangelicals say, all you Catholics, you're all going to hell. I don't have any problem. I respect that. But what I don't really like are evangelicals who will sit on their hands. No, we don't want to upset Catholics. And Edem Catholics should have courage as well in expositioning, laying out why we believe what we believe that, I think is something that we, the laity can do, because a hireling shepherd leaders certainly aren't going to help with that. So why am I? Why, why that introduction? Well, on the back of everyone on X saying harm. Well, you have no idea what you're talking about. No, no. Evangelicals are drawing sustenance from Catholic devotionals. President Trump put out a message on the feast of St Paul, Michael the Archangel. Now, I'm not going to say that President Trump is doing this and therefore all evangelicals should follow his line because I don't really know how substantial a believer President Trump is. I certainly think the Holy Spirit, when, when President Trump is doing things to advance Christendom here on earth, I certainly think the Holy Spirit is working through him. I think that is absolutely clear. I think when that bullet missed President Trump by a mere whisker in Butler, Pennsylvania, last year, I think that was the Holy Spirit at work. Liz Yor, tell us then, a bit about what President Trump said about Christians. I don't even see the word Catholic in here in his statement. Tell us a bit about what he said about St. Michael the Archangel, why it's important, why Catholics think it's important, and with the greatest of really what I was just saying, the greatest of respect and openness towards our evangelical brothers and sisters, why they might find it important as well.
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Yes, I was personally astonished by this statement from President Trump. I'd like to read a portion of it because I think it's very compelling. And, you know, for those of us, you know, my work in child protection, St. Michael has been an integral part. I began to learn about him, pray to him daily to protect children. And so for me, as a Catholic, my devotion to St. Michael is very great and also I think so I was thrilled to see this. But this is what President Trump issued on the feast day of St. Michael the Archangel. Today, I salute the millions of Christian believers in the United States and around the world observing the feast of St. Michael the Archangel. According to sacred Scripture, when the devil rebelled against God in heaven, St. Michael and his legion of angels cast Satan down to earth, triumphantly asserting God's sovereignty over all creation. For, for 2,000 years, Christians have looked to St. Michael the Archangel for protection, strength and courage in times of conflict, distress and doubt. And in 1886, nearly 140 years ago, Pope Leo XIII, the leader of the Roman Catholic Church, fearing for the future of the Western world, introduced the legendary prayer to St. Michael, which is still recited to this day in churches and homes. And after Masses all across the nation and throughout the world. And then he lists the prayer, I think, you know, for those of us realizing kind of reading the tea leaves, all the conflicts around the world, all the conflicts in our country, seeing, you know, the face of evil day in and day out on the news and, you know, certainly many people in their families struggling with these battles, both personal and otherwise, that St. Michael has been a crutch, an inspiration, somebody that we can turn to in these times which, you know, clearly need the protection of the angels. We all, you know, many of us, both Christians and Catholics, certainly believe in our guardian angels to pray to our guardian angels every morning. So I think this is a very compelling message from President Trump. And, you know, frankly, you know, this is, here we are, ironically, coming from, you know, a secular, I guess, Christian in the White House extolling a beloved saint in the Catholic Church when, you know, we're talking previously about, you know, the quote, unquote, vicar of Christ who is promoting a secular agenda. So, you know, the irony is quite great, but I would encourage both Christians and Catholics to read and study about St. Michael's I know many people that are not Catholic have asked me to pray to St. Michael for their own troubles. I mean, they've asked me to pray rosaries. I know this has happened to many Catholics. I mean, so I, I believe, despite what you see on social media, that Christians and Catholics reach out to each other both in prayer and in support. And this is certainly a powerful figure and devotion that I would encourage, especially now as we face all the challenges in the world that we learn St. Michael's prayer and that those Catholics that aren't saying it after Mass. This is something, you know, you talk about the laity. This is something that the laity can do once Mass ends to just on your own, start praying loudly. The St. Michael prayer. And it does catch on. I've seen it in many parishes.
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It's, it's, this is totally unpredicted, I think of the, out of the Trump phenomenon that we're seeing a figure here who has done more, I think, to unashamedly defend the presence of Christianity in the public square. Probably, I don't know, than any other president for two centuries.
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And becoming and becoming. And, and, and, and when he puts out statements like this and, and he's nobody. Like we've, we've seen the memes with, with President, the AI design means of President Trump in the full paper or schmutter. Right. Which are very amusing. But really, Donald Trump is nobody's idea of a, of a traditional Catholic icon. And yet when he pushes out congrat, congratulatory statements like this, I didn't say anything, by the way, as you're saying, Liz, I didn't say anything myself. Similarly put out by Pope Leo, but I might have missed that. But when he does that, he's becoming in himself a point of unity between Catholics and traditional Catholics who look to President Trump as being their political point of inspiration, and also evangelicals who look to the same President Trump as political inspiration. And he's putting out these statements. And I think this is the Holy Spirit. I really do. I really do. No one else could have put out a statement like this and gotten away with it and not been pillared by either side. I think it's a beautiful thing that he's done. And I mention again that Charlie Kirk, who is definitely becoming the cornerstone, I think I've seen it referred to as the third American revival. Now, after his martyrdom, he was wearing a medallion to St. Michael the Archangel. And my message then, therefore, to all, to all baptized of all of goodwill, just that there's a spiritual richness in some of these things that even you might be evangelical, you might even be Catholic and say, I would know. You know, I wouldn't even think about wearing a devotional. But these things are, they are, they are having a renaissance. And I think that is the Holy Spirit's work. And I think the Holy Spirit is working through President Donald Trump on something like this, where he puts out this statement. Look, we only got, I think, five minutes for the show left. Frank, before we come back to you, let's have a quick reference to the legendary Jim Rickards. So what if you had the brightest mind in the War Room? Delivering critical financial research every month, War Room listeners know Jim Rickards as our wise man. A former CIA, Pentagon and White House advisor with unmatched grasp of geopolitics and capital markets, Jim predicted Trump's Electoral college victory exactly 312 to 226. Now he's issuing a dire warning about a moment that could define Trump's presidency and your financial future. His latest book, MoneyGPT, exposes how AI is setting the stage for financial chaos. Bank runs at lightning speed, algorithm driven crashes, and even threats to national security. Right now, War Room members get a free copy of MoneyGPT when they sign up for Strategic Intelligence, Jim's flagship financial newsletter. Time is running out. Go to ricardswarroom.com now and claim your free book. That's Ricard's War Room staying with Pope Leo xiv. He's just made an appointment of Christiana Perella as the new head of the Pontifical Academy for Fine Arts, an appointment that some people are calling scandalous. Frank Walker, tell us a bit about this appointment and why. Why is it getting some people so concerned?
B
Well, I mean, it's completely outrageous. I read about this a couple weeks ago. It was just shocking because what I was reading came with the photos. Christiana Perela is the new head of the Pontifical Academy of Fine Arts, and she's sort of a pornographer. In 2019, she had an exhibition called Night Fever, which supported gay claims. In 2020, she depicted naked bodies, some of them when homoerotic poses. In 2021, she had posters of adult films. And this is what I remember. I mean, this is like. This is graphic pornography. That's what. That's what her art is. When you think of the Vatican Fine Arts, you don't. You don't think of this. And in 2022, Francis appointed her to the Academy of Fine Arts. This is just a promotion for her. Now Leo has made her in charge. It's just. If you could. If you could see the photos of what this lady actually promotes. And it's supposed to be coming out of the Vatican. You think of a Vatican which is just sort of a rotting corpse full of worms. I mean, that's what this is like. That's what a shocking person this is. And, you know, Leo has pushed a lot of women in high places, nuns in high places, and with them come all these new kind of pathologies from a feminine perspective, and it's just more of the same. And this piece of Radi t Celli, it has to do with the softness of Trad Inc. Because that's sort of a Trad Inc. Site. And the way that they handle it is completely the opposite of how you would want to handle it. They say that it's a decision that cannot be exempt from our reservations. There could be some problem of governance on the part of Pope Leo. He's just being too pressured too much by the gay lobby. He. Pope Leo is a gay lobby. You know what price unity. You know, these are the things they're saying. They should be exclaiming outrage at this person. It's just unbearably mild. And.
C
But this is the issue.
B
You have to see the pictures.
C
It's. It's exactly the point. This is exactly the point. This is the winning theme of today's show. Faithful Catholics. Do not give your docility to these people. Not. Not to your Bishops, not to, to your cardinals and certainly not to the Pope because these people do not have your, your faith, the faith that you love, the faith that you cherish. They do not have these things at heart. Or in fact, all they're trying to do is undermine this. Let's just give me 90 seconds. Your reaction to this appointment.
D
Earlier in the show we were talking about truth being assaulted by Leo and that he was undermining 2,000 years of the truth of the Catholic Church and the dog mother church. Now we have the assault on beauty. We saw that last week when the LGBT scandal in St. Peter's Basilica where they walked in with LGBT paraphernalia and blasphemous T shirts. This is the attack on the Catholic Church. Everything that the church stands for, truth, beauty, and it's being assaulted, minimized, erased by the new Sonatal church. The new Sonatal Church is the promotion of the LGBT eroticism. And this is it on display. And they are becoming part of the secular world. They are embracing the secular, secular world. So none of this is surprising. It's all strategic by the Vatican. And these appointments are going to continue to shock and be absolutely undermining the faith of 2000 years. So hold on to your hats. I mean this is, this is very troubling. And you know, as a woman, I'm insulted that he hires these women to promote this pornography and debasement of the arts and culture when we have 2000 years of magnificent art and culture and music. And what did we see? We saw last week. We saw Bam Bam, the Thai rap musician in St Peter's Square with the vile lyrics of Clips, another rap group. So they are. The Vatican is embracing the lower base nature of man and we're going to see it continue under this.
C
Leo folks, you heard it there, right? That is the synthesis. Leo. Vatican is coordinating a full frontal assault on truth, goodness and beauty. But the point you mentioned, Liz, I think is absolutely perfect. If it wasn't, if it wasn't obvious from what these people had done to the liturgy of the last 60 years with the assault on beauty, now they're making it explicit now that folks, they are giving you no wiggle room to claim that you can't see what's going on. This is in your face pornography in the Vatican masquerading itself as art. Liz, your ready people go on social media to keep up with your analysis.
D
My subjects, Elizabeth, your. Your children is my. My website and everybody everywhere on social media under Elizabeth Yore.
B
Frank Walker, Canon 212 with 1N type it up in the address line. And also if you want to see the daily update, it's at Rumble and It's at Gloria TV.
C
That's brilliant. Don't forget folks, Canon 212 is undergoing the algorithmic distractions. They don't want you to see the site. Type it in the the browser bar yourself and then you will get the the the breaking news in the Catholic sphere as it happens. Thanks to Liz, your Frank Walker, thanks to Spencer and Will and the great team in Denver for putting this show together. We'll be back same time next week. God bless for now.
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Podcast: Bannon's War Room
Episode: Battleground EP 861: “Trad Catholic Inc.” In Shock As “Pope” Leo Confirms He’s Just As Non-Catholic As “Pope” Francis
Date: October 1, 2025
Host(s): Harnwell (guest host), with Liz Yore and Frank Walker
Description: This episode centers on the recent comments and actions of Pope Leo, the fallout within traditional Catholic circles, scandals within the Church, global attacks on Christianity, and a notable endorsement of Catholic tradition by Donald Trump.
This episode explores the mounting shock and disappointment among traditionalist Catholics ("Trad Catholic Inc.") following a controversial interview given by Pope Leo. The discussion focuses on perceived doctrinal betrayals, particularly Pope Leo’s comments equating abortion, the death penalty, and immigration policy under the rubric of "pro-life." The episode broadens to discuss the crisis of Church leadership, the need for lay governance, and the intersection of Catholic tradition with American political figures, notably Donald Trump. Other key topics include institutional scandals within the Church and the perceived erosion of Christian influence in Western society.
Segment: [02:11-05:32]
Summary: Pope Leo is interviewed and asked about Cardinal Cupich awarding Senator Durbin (a pro-choice Catholic) despite his stance on abortion.
Critical Reaction:
Notable Quote:
Segment: [09:47-15:32]
Summary: Frank Walker analyzes the schism within “Trad Catholic Inc.” -- outlets and personalities disillusioned by Pope Leo’s comments, which echo those of Cardinal Cupich and Pope Francis.
Notable Quote:
Segment: [19:12-23:56]
Summary: Examination of a high-profile sex abuse case involving a defrocked Louisiana priest and the culture of episcopal cover-up.
Host emphasis:
Segment: [23:56-27:00]
Summary: Discussion of Nathan Poole, a British worker jailed for “insulting Islam” (blasphemy), viewed as symptomatic of Christian marginalization in Europe.
Double Standard:
Segment: [31:20-41:04]
Summary:
Implication:
Segment: [45:27-50:16]
Summary: Pope Leo’s appointment of Christiana Perela, described as a “graphic pornographer” and LGBTQ+ advocate, to head the Pontifical Academy of Fine Arts is called “completely outrageous.”
Broader Context:
This episode offers a critical lens on the current papacy and Catholic institutional leadership, reflecting the sense of betrayal and urgency among traditionalist Catholics. It features robust analysis, urgent calls for reform, engagement with contemporary scandals, and explores new ecumenical alliances in American Christianity. The central message: lay Catholics must take action to defend the faith, as institutional leaders are seen as corrupt or compromised. The conversations are marked by frank language, memorable analogies, and fresh real-world examples—providing a thorough, if partisan, window into the traditionalist Catholic response to recent Vatican events.