
WarRoom Battleground EP 865: October 7th Two Years Remembered; Chaos In France ...
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Christians, I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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War Room here's your host, STEPHEN K.
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It is Tuesday 7th October, year of lore 2025. We're going to go now. We put together a compilation clips of the two hours we were live that Saturday morning. I actually tracked down Poso and he joined us, being a naval intelligence officer to do the coverage live. So you're gonna, you're gonna, we're gonna go back, we put together, I don't know, 10 minutes or so, as you can see it as we put it together. And I will have some observations and commentary on the other side as a team under the direction of President Trump, led by Steve Wyckoff, his special envoy, and Jared Kushner. Jared, the architect of the Abraham Accords, are in Egypt right now trying to negotiate an end to this madness. Let's go to see it live as it happened on the war room on the 7th of October of 2023. I'll return here in a moment.
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I guess terrorist attack, armed conflict started overnight in Israel over Gaza. Jack, let me bring you in. You know, Jack, we're on the 50th anniversary, just past the 50th anniversary of the Yom Kippur War where they were caught by in 67, they weren't in 73, they were caught totally by surprise. Did the IDF get caught by surprise here? I mean, what's going on? We send Israel billions of dollars for their defense. Why were people not on watch here?
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Steve, you have always said that there are decades where nothing happens and there are weeks where decades happen and we are in one of those weeks. Welcome to the fourth Turning the multipolar world is here. This question is on the lips of a lot of people about the IDF and what's perceived to be a complete, taken by surprise by this just, just, just massive, massive terrorist strike invasion, multipronged, multifaceted invasion that we're seeing from Gaza into southern Israel. We're talking. They've got Humvees, they've got motorcycles, they've got paragliders, they've got drones, speedboat.
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Massive, coordinated, easily used external. This is. This. This is not a. This is not a terrorist attack. This is a paramilitary or a military. Hamas and Hezbollah are, you know, two sides of the same coin. I think it has everything to do with the $6 billion.
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Biden just gave an update on that. We're. We're actually getting. We're actually just in the last couple of minutes before the. And you showed the horrific videos, not even the most graphic videos that we can't even show here, of the hostage taking of civilians, the slaughter of families in their own homes in southern Israel running in. But we're also getting indications that Hezbollah is now testing the borders of Lebanon and Israel. So Hezbollah is marching up to those borders. They've got forces that are prepared to potentially cross those borders into Israel.
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America stands with Israel. But there have been some tough situations over the last couple of years in the Middle east that Israel, very specifically under Netanyahu or others, waived off, you know, other leadership, waved off from supporting the United States. Is that not correct, sir?
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Well, Steve, there was a report that I got from the top level of the White House during the. You remember the Al Baghdadi raid of the leader of isis, and we all remember the story, he was down in the cave, they sent the dog, etc. There was actually a report that came out from the highest level of the White House that that was originally intended to be a joint strike on ISIS between the United States as well as Israeli assets. However, at the last minute, Israel pulled out of that attack. Then President Trump was advised to drop the attack completely as well. President Trump said, no, we're going to continue. We know where Baghdadi is. I want to strike him now so we can't give him another chance to escape. That's exactly what he did. It was a successful strike that took out Baghdad. Israel was originally supposed to be part of that. Netanyahu pulled out. And then we also saw that Netanyahu, of course, as many people will famously remember, was the first world leader to congratulate Biden after the 2020 election.
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No, it's outrageous. Outrageous. The stolen 2020 election. The stolen 2020 election. And this is the first couple of days he couldn't wait to get to the fricking microphone to throw Trump over the side. Everything that Trump had done for Israel and MAGA has supported for Israel Moving the embassy to Jerusalem was not a small thing. We were told constantly, constantly, constantly by State and these others, because I was kind of, you know, one of the guys in charge of this. Oh, no, you have terrorism all over the place. Five thousand American hostages. That was heroic of President Trump. The 2020 election stolen. And Netanyahu could not wait to get to the microphone to be rubbing up on Biden, the Democrats. The first thing that happened this morning was Qatar and Saudi Arabia came out and said they fully supported Saudi Arabia. We're paying for Saudi Arabia's defense. This is the problem. We're paying guys over there. They're going to fight. We're going to get dragged into. We can't get dragged into this. We just can't. Sorry. We got 20. We got 33 baited debt. We got an existential crisis of a global margin call. We have hundreds of combat divisions in our country of illegal aliens. We don't know where they are. Okay? And we got a situation that's festering in the South China Sea and Taiwan, which is existential to the American economy. Those are the priorities of the United States of America. And I think the first question has got to be, before McHenry and all these neocons start jumping in, is we give Jack, we shovel billions, tens and tens of billions of dollars over to Israel to defend itself. Where is the idf? I don't want to be too hard on Israel here. I don't. And I realize you're in the middle of things, but you see, these things are taken hostages. This is not a terrorist situation, Jack. This is a paramilitary to military operation. Well planned, well coordinated, well funded, well thought through. And hey, Netanyahu, where is he? Threw Trump over the side pretty quickly. Where's the idf? Where's the tens of billions of dollars we send there and Stavridis? Their intelligence in the area is better than ours. Hence Jack's story earlier about Syria. When we needed them, when we needed them, they backed out. And only Trump's courage. You know, Trump, Mr. Chaos. Right, Mr. Chaos. The only person in living memory to provide stability in that region. No shots fired, nothing. Think about it and you're about to see. This is the other phase of the Third World War. This thing could turn into a cockpit right now. Jack Posobic.
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Steve. We had four years of peace. We had four years of prosperity. But people were too upset about mean tweets that they had to go and get rid of the one president that gave us no new wars in living memory. I could go for some Mean tweets right now. The world could go for some mean tweets right now. President Trump has released a statement. These Hamas attacks, Israel has every right to defend itself. Sadly, American taxpayer dollars help fund these attacks. Boom.
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Thank you very much. Thank you very much. That's the question we got here. Of course Israel's got to defend themselves. This is not a terrorist attack. This is a military attack. This is well thought doing. Jack Bosobik nailed it. Watch the northern border. Watch Hezbollah. There are two armies. They're two basically Persian backed armies. In fact, Hezbollah is essentially Persians.
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These are Persian backed armies that are coming in on a pincer move. And this is where Jack Vesobic's right. Jack, why you say this is the fourth turning, Steve?
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Because in the fourth turning, we. The third turning is the unraveling, the unraveling of systems, the collapse of institutions. And then the fourth turning is the conflict. The fourth turning is the conflict that challenges the old status quo and creates the new status quo. So the first turning which comes out of the fourth turning is born and grown out of the fourth turning. That is what we were in. And Neil Howe, when he put his book out earlier this year, his update, he said we've not yet entered the conflict phase. He said we are not even going to be done the Fourth Turning until the 2030s. Okay? People need to understand that, that we are in a conflict phase right now. We've got a president up there who has no idea what he's doing. We've got feckless idiots that are running our entire administration. They bogged us down in a land war in Asia that we have no chance of winning. We have no chance of winning in Ukraine, Period, End of story. And now while we're bogged down there, the rest of the world is going around settling scores.
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Wow. Tell me who does. This is why you watched the show that was live, real time. Look at that information right there, real time. While the footage is being put up there. That was a military operation, air, sea, land, over 40 miles, meticulously thought through. They had the floor plans of the kibbutzes. They know exactly where to go inside the kibbutzes to slaughter people. They knew exactly who was on the different watchtowers from the idf. They knew the burning man festival there. They knew all about that, that slaughter and then the God's operation. As we said at the time, when you go through hell, you have to go through fast as possible. It was the head of the idf, not Steve Bannon, the head of the new Head of the idf that said back in March, until he came on, very little had been done. So now we're in a situation that it looks like they haven't taken out all the combat arms that's supposed to be held down. But you saw right there in the footage the savagery of the Muslim Brotherhood. And to date, to date, to date, you don't have one explanation of how that happened. There's been no formal inquiry. And I realize they're under war. I got that. But when we were under war in World War II, I think in the first two years, I think there's something like three or four inquiries into Pearl harbor already. Not that any of them got to basically down to the ground truth. But they started the process. It has not been explained why. And people we finance, we helped finance the military of Saudi Arabia and with uae and I realized they put up money Qatar, and we got a base there. But hey, the Saudi intelligence, UAE intelligence, Egyptian intelligence, Qatar intelligence, the Mossad, Shin Bet, MI6, the CIA. Come on, man, give me a break. You got those organizations alone, have half the guys over there on the payroll. Why have we not. Why has there been no answer how that happened? And that's needed to be taken care of right away, not an expanded ward, not try to go in and take out the Iranians, not go to the West Bank. You got to take care of that first. And it hasn't been taken care of. And now you're going to have some deal to put together. That was also in 23. President Trump, this is just when Desantis had announced in May. This is still when now his numbers were collapsing. This is still when Fox News is promoting every day Desantis and Nikki Haley and all that crap. And President Trump has come in and set things right. And look at our comments on Ukraine. This is a geopolitical disaster and we still haven't gotten to the bottom of it. We still haven't had the facts or the truth. We're flying kind of blind. But you've seen a sea change. You've seen a sea change on this in, I think, the last four or five weeks, a sea change. And now President Trump, I think, has really asserted himself. And hey, we're going to get this thing put together and we're going to get the guns put down. We're going to figure this thing out. And the only person that could do that is President Trump. The only person that could bang heads like that is Donald John Trump. And if on Thursday or Friday, I think when it's when it's awarded, if he doesn't get the Nobel Peace Prize, then the whole thing's a joke. Is he perfect? No, he's far from perfect. But it's in overcoming those imperfections, to be the leader that he is, shows his greatness. And look at it right there. He put out a statement right there that kind of summed it all up. And this thing's been horrific. According to the Gaza, you know, the Hamas, you can't believe anything they say. They say 67,000 have been killed. But I will tell you, on that day, the people that were the heroes were the older IDF retirees that had fought in 67, had fought in 73. They got in their cars and drove to the sound of the guns. The way this thing was stopped was basically older members of the IDF that had fought in previous wars that drove down there and started pushing back on what was not a terrorist attack. This was not a terrorist attack. You had air, sea, land, paragliders come on over a 40 mile stretch. It was a highly organized, practiced, financed military assault. And yet we're sitting here today cutting a peace deal. We have no earthly idea, none of what the truth is in back of us. And the American people deserve that. The people in Israel deserve it. But hey, you're running your deal. If you haven't demanded and let Netanyahu kick the ball, you know, kick the can down, refine, that's your deal. But for us, if we're going to be involved and we get dragged into this thing, we need to know exactly what happened. And I am shocked there hasn't been more coming out of the government to demand that. We'll have more on this over the next couple days as President Trump tries to hammer through a peace deal. I want to bring Stan Yodakovsky has been with us a couple of times. He was here for the naval show the other day. Very strategic advisor, very much working on submarine programs between private capital and nations on submarines. He joins us. Stan, I want to talk to you about other breaking news that we need to get our arms around. And you have a better perspective of this than anybody. In fact, you wrote a brilliant piece. The Fifth Republic. People don't understand. The Fifth Republic in France is collapsing before our eyes. And the last time they had a new Republic was in 1958 with the return of de Gaulle. Tell us exactly what's happening. You got a great piece that we've got to pay attention to because the Islamization of France is quite far advanced. Why is the government. This is deeper than Just a parliament not being able to put together a government, you're saying basically not just Macron, but the entire project is about to collapse before our eyes, Sir.
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Thank you, Steve, for having me again on the show. Indeed, I think we're living in unprecedented times in France with far reaching consequences for Europe and by extension obviously the conflict in Ukraine. President Macron has dug himself into a corner. No doubt. With two years remaining in his second term, he's been unable to keep a stable government and maintain a majority in parliament or even pass a budget. He came to power in 2017 by offering an alternative to traditional republican and socialist party dividing and conquering by promising to govern from the liberal center. Now that he's eviscerated the left and right middle of the road parties, the.
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Far right and far left parties have become the main forces battling it out to block Macron's policies time and again. And he's incapable of building a strong enough majority in parliament. Now, a little bit about the Fifth Republic, which came about in 1958, as you mentioned, when General de Gaulle was asked to come back and find a new path forward for France after the failure of the Fourth Republic. The Fourth Republic came in 1946, on the heels of the end of the Second World War. It was a parliamentary regime comprised of a number of political parties and a weak president. And it had a few gains, notably, immediately after the war, France's efforts to rebuild the country following the war and the massive destruction across the country. It was also at the birth of Social Security and the social gains that France has been so proud of for the last 70 years. And it also contributed to the beginning of the contours of the European political project. But eventually, as a war raged in 1954 in the former colony of Algeria, still a colony back then, and political parties were fighting it out for and blocking each other's governments, the country came to a standstill. The war exacerbated the tensions at home and the losses on the battlefield called for General de Gaulle to be called back to the forefront of French politics. He was elected in 1958 and immediately proceeded with writing a new constitution. What we have come to know today as the Fifth Republic. That constitution wanted to do away with this tyranny of the political parties, give France back a strong a presidential mandate, one where the president would act as an arbiter between the people and the state, and one which would give universal suffrage to French people for them to decide the fate of their country. Now Macron, who claims to be the political Heir of De Gaulle has completely betrayed the essence of the Fifth Republic. And rather than to be an arbiter between the state and his people, he's become kind of a prosecutor. And he's governed for the last several years now, either during COVID times, with a very limited Council of Defense stripping Parliament of its responsibilities, or whenever he couldn't get a majority in Parliament, which has been now the norm for the last two years since he came back to power, two and a half years now, he's been governing through his. Through his prime minister and government with presidential decree after presidential decree, what we call the 49 3, which basically bypasses government and the legislative body on any decision, whether it be to form a government or to reform the pension and entitlement. And so the trust has been broken. The trust has been broken between the President and the political parties first that he alienated to achieve his political victory, but also the extreme parties, if you can call them extreme at this point. Because when you look at the National Front, Marine Le Pen's party, she lost with 35% in 2017, and now she lost with 46% in 2022. And so it is widely believed that should he once again dissolve the national assembly tomorrow, as he seems incapable of forming a new government, tomorrow, he will try and name a new Prime Minister and form a new cabinet. It would be the sixth one in two years. Six. Prime Minister in two years. Sounds more like a banana republic than an advanced Western democracy.
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If you remember, he. He. He started this. He. He started this. He started this whole thing a couple weeks ago about the Palestinian state. He made all these commitments to the President about troops and money for Ukraine. It's all. It's all phony. He's an instigator. And the Fifth Republic's going to collapse. I think. I think you may see the collapse starting tomorrow. This has massive geopolitical impact implications for the United States. Stan, we gotta bounce. I'll have you back up. You've written this amazing article. I know it's in French. When are we going to get the English version of it?
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Well, let me see if I can get it out in US media, but certainly I'm happy to share the English version with you and I'm happy to update you tomorrow as France teeters on the brakes of the end of the Fifth Republic.
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Folks, this is a fourth turning two years after Jack Posobec talked about it on that horrific day when more dead Israelis and Jews since the Holocaust. Think about that for a second. Look at that footage. By the way, we had to cut out some of the most horrific footage that we showed that day in real time. Stan, thank you. We'll have you back on tomorrow. France is on the verge of collapsing. Think about that for a second as President Trump tries to hammer out a peace deal and reorganize the Middle East. Short commercial break. Be back in worm in a moment.
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We are shaping the destiny of nations through the mothers who are rising up and standing for those things that matter most. That is what MomsForFreedom World is about. And we hope that all the moms out there will realize that you are not alone and you have a place that you can come. And today you're gonna hear from the moms from seven of the 17 countries that we have part of this network now. Six of those countries are represented here today. And you'll be hearing about them and what they're doing in their countries and the. And the same issues that they're facing. We are raising the next generation of each nation's leaders. Mothers don't just shape individual lives. We shape the very future of society. As the old saying goes, the hand that rocks the cradle really does rule the world. The strength of any nation is only as strong as its families. And mothers determine the heart and emotional temperature of any nation. That's why mothers play a profoundly strategic role. It is our duty to recognize that our. That our rights come to us by God and not by government. Let me be very clear. Our children do not belong to the government. Psalm 127. The Word of God says that children are blessing from the Lord, the Bible. God was talking to families and to parents. He was not talking to government. I just want to encourage you. Help is coming because there's strength in unity. Just like moms in Texas have united, just like moms across America have united and come together to protect our families and to protect our children. Moms across the world are now coming together in unity, and we are standing strong and we will protect our families and we will protect our children. Jesus said it best. Whoever would harm one of these little ones, it would be better for him to have a millstone hung around his neck and be thrown into the bottom of the sea. To that end, Mothers for Freedom Global will be working to secure parental rights and establish once again the purity, the beauty and the innocence of children.
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Okay. The hand that rocks the cradle. Kimberly Fletcher joins us now. So I get Moms for America. You guys have been at the tip of the spear. The parental rights movement, all that explain what was announced today, what's the concept, and what are you guys trying to accomplish? Quite powerful press conference, but what are you guys trying to accomplish?
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Well, I first want to say where it started, because what we want to accomplish is based on what we have realized that moms are dealing with across around the world. Two years ago, I started to have heads of state, leaders of organizations, moms from various different countries ask if we could bring Moms for America to their country. Well, Moms for America is founded on the Constitution. It's about America. So that would not work. However, I realized that there are universal truths and intrinsic values that resonate at all countries. All moms care about the same three things, and those three things are now being taken from us. First and foremost, we want our children to be safe and protected. Second, we want them to get a good education. And third, opportunities to succeed. Those things have been taken away from us. We are very blessed here in the United States because President Trump is now at the helm. And instead of having an adversary in the White House calling us domestic terrorists, we have an advocate. Unfortunately, in several countries, specifically in Western countries, that is not the case. Everything that these eastern bloc countries have fought against, trying to rise up from the communist rule that they've been under for so many years and gravitating to those democracies, they're going against those things. We on the Western world are now embracing them. And what we want to do is go out there as moms, unite together in all of our countries and lift the. Elevate the status of our. Of our countries and help mothers to be able to thrive, to have freedom, to be able to raise their children, have freedom to be able to speak, freedom to be able to be prosperous. That is what we as mothers want, and that is what we're uniting together around the world to be able to stand for.
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Do you not think that you can accomplish your goals and mission here in the United States unless you do this? Is this spreading now as kind of a global plague? And that's why one of the reasons you're doing it, because you don't think you can fully accomplish your work here as this now comes in kind of a second tidal wave into our own country.
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Yeah, you know, so I want to go back. We held this at the Phyllis Schlafly center, which was kind of profound. Phyllis Schlafly fought very hard, almost single handedly stopped era and for those who don't know what the Equal Rights Amendment was, she warned what was going to happen, that women would be erased, that this gender ideology would be thrust on us. All of these things that we're seeing, she warned against. But what we have going for us now is she stopped dra. So it's not in the Constitution, it is not law. All of these things are happening. The law is on our side. But when she won that battle here in the United States, what happened is the devil never sleeps, evil never goes away. So they regrouped and they went to the United nations and this Council on the Status of Women that they hold every year for two weeks at the United Nations. They started pushing all of these nefarious ideas. Getting rid of the word mother, getting rid of family, going after men, restoring the idea of fatherhood. They've been very successful at doing that. And then they bring that back to our countries. And people are like, oh, well, it came from the UN it's the Council on the Status of Women. It must be what women want. It is not what we want. So what I see is an obligation for the United States to go and help all of these countries, because a lot of these things from Kinsey, it began there, but then it went out to all of these other countries, and they're all suffering from the same things. So what happened was there were women who came to me, moms who came to me and said, kimberly, now that President Trump is the head of the free world, we see him going in a direction that other countries are now following. Common sense is now being brought back into policy, but we lack that cultural alignment. And she said, these moms were saying, what you've done in the United States, being able to move the culture, that's what we need in our countries, help us know how to do that. So that while the President is leading the free world, we can be moving the culture in our countries and be working together to be able to elevate the status of living in our countries.
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Kimberly, you're standing on the shoulders of a giant. Phyllis Schlafly. I had the opportunity to meet her and make a film with her in it called Fire from the Heartland, about the Tea Party movement and the populist revolt that was leading. She was a Giant. And then President Trump made the decision to take time off from that brutal campaign to go to her funeral in St. Louis. Just magnificent. She is a true giant. You're 100% correct, Kimberly. Where do people go to get the information about this if they want to assist you, if they want to help, if they want to sign up? Moms for America has been at the tip of the spear of this fight. Where they go for your new initiative, ma'.
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Yeah, absolutely. So if you come to momsforamerica us, we will connect you for the worldwide movement. It's Moms. And we welcome you. If you feel alone, if you feel like you're the only one out there and you're the crazy one, you're not. There is a safe place to land. And we're in.
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Moms for America. Kimberly Fletcher now going global. Gotta tell you, they need it. Kimberly, thank you so much. Great presentation today. Look forward to assisting you guys in your growth.
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The hand that rocks the cradle. Pretty profound. I want to bring in now. Mark Mitchell joins me. I got to get this in today because. And Mark, you're more than a pollster. People know you as the Rasmussen guy. You come on because of the work you're doing and the way that you do it. You're better than just the best tracking pole and the best pollster for the Trump movement and for President Trump, you've had a ringside seat and you've rolled your sleeves up and dug down on this, and you've got some very profound observations. And you and I keep talking, you say, hey, Steve, this is more than just regular politics. We're in a war now, a battle for the soul of this country. Walk me through that. Your research. Why do you. Why do you come to this and talk about really, what's the heart of a fourth turning, sir?
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I mean, it's all coming to a head right now. We're at the end of it. And I think things are going to move really fast. Now. The window in which Trump can fix things, bring accountability to the government, set us on the right path, is rapidly shrinking. And we're already looking at political realities that it's like, okay, 13, 14 months now from now, the Republicans might be lame duck. And already you're starting to see, like I saw your segment today on Ted Cruz, you're starting to see the usual suspects rear their head trying to basically shove MAGA back to the back of the bus. And it's so transparent the forces of the establishment want this grift to continue they don't want to fix, even though we're rushing to a cliff. And I'm here to say that America is rushing to a cliff. And I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but it's like you usually don't have me on when there's happy talk and I hear a lot of happy talk and I hear things like, wow, there's a revival in America, or Gen Z is the most conservative generation in decades, or oh, wow, the Republican Party's got a plan, or all these things. Conservatism is suffering, having a resurgence. It's not happening right now. There's an existential battle of two different worldviews. And it's like you can find, you can frame it as a fight between Republicans and Democrats, but I don't think that really catches it right.
C
Everything.
D
Because Donald Trump didn't win because of just Republicans. Okay, so it's like, well, what happens when MAGA goes away, when it loses its political capital, what replaces it? If it's basically Mitt Romney's Republican Party, then they will suffer a massive defeat. Well, is it liberalism versus conservatism? I don't think that's correct either because what even is conservatism? What has have they conserved who's the conservative leader? And I'll tell you what, the Gen Zs, they don't want to hear about conservatism. They think ideas like free market capitalism have failed them. And so is it a religious battle? Well, I don't know. I look at the religious polling and I can tell you that in many ways it appears to me like the church has just sort of abdicated this fight. Like it doesn't really find that its message is relevant for people who go to church to, to talk about values, to talk about the things that Americans need to stand for. How's this? Christians in America are only plus two, pro life only plus two. Now the general population is plus 16 pro choice. So I guess the impact of Christianity is 18 points. And obviously that's just a litmus test, but I see it over and over again. And when you look at the polling by the religion, the people who are most certain about their worldview are atheists. Atheists are overwhelmingly the most certain about the worldview, followed by evangelical Christians. But Protestants, when you ask them questions about, well, who do you support on this values based issue, Protestants are completely split just like the rest of America. It's like you might as well not even find answers at church. These people, and obviously we know the mainline Denominations are failing. And so what is the struggle? And I think it's two different worldviews. And we talked about the Zoomer polling. But when you really dig deep and understand this cohort of individuals, individuals, they're hopeless. They don't think they're going to be able to afford houses, their unemployment rates super high. They have a ridiculous level of mental health. 35% of them say they've been diagnosed with a mental health condition. Almost 30% of them are taking drugs for mental health conditions or seeing therapists. Half of 18 to 29 year olds, almost half are single. And a good chunk of them, like, aren't even even trying to find somebody to marry. They're not even dating. 17% of all Gen Z's are single and not even dating. And then when you look at what they want out of relationships, NBC did this polling. If you compare Gen Z young men that voted for Trump, what do they define success as in this poll? They define success as, yes, a career. Yes, having a career and being a breadwinner, but also being married and having children. Those were very high on the the list of what Trump voting Gen Z men wanted. Which is most Gen Z men? Well, what do the 18 to 29 year old Harris voting women want? Well, they want careers also by much higher margin. What they don't want is kids and marriage. They don't define that as success. Only 6% of them. And so these people want totally different things and they're being indoctrinated, like we talked about with Reddit, into an online monoculture that is filling a gap left by religion. There's a message, there's almost a religious battle in this country for the hearts and minds of these people. And it's being filled with things like hate and the LGBTQ movement. I think this might blow many people's minds, but there are more people in the 18 to 29 year old cohort in America who identify as LGBTQ than who identify as Catholic. And of the 18 to 29 year olds, Catholic is their highest religious ID. And not only that, there's more Gen Z LGBTQ people than there are 18 to 29 year olds who say that they are very religious. 23% of Gen Z says they're LGBTQ. Only 18% say they're very religious. Less than 20% say they're Catholic. Now, the ones that go to church like they are, they tend church. And in fact, many of the ones, the Gen Zs that are at church didn't go because their parents, they, they went because they're looking for something. 32% of them say that they became Christians just recently or in the last few years. So if you can get them to church and it's a good church, there might be a message there for them. But these people, like we said before, are not capitalistic. Even the ones that voted for Trump overwhelmingly support things like nationalizing major industries. Almost 60% of Gen Z Trump voters support excess wealth confiscation. Only one third of them oppose income caps. And 62% of all gen Z says that the economy is unfair to young people. Now these people in my opinion are relatively complacent right now. But what happens when the unemployment rate gets to 25%? These people, many of them don't think they'll ever own a home. They're completely checked out. And everybody looks at our buckling social safety nets and says well you know this coming demographic collapse is going to be bad. Well, they're not even accounting for the fact that 20, almost 25% of them are gay. Like what kind of families are these people forming? Are they procreating? Are they instilling western values? Like we are finally starting to see that we are reaping what we sowed when we took the ten Commandments out of schools, when we celebrated multiculturalism over American Western values, when we allowed every academic institution to be completely corrupted by Marxists and when we allowed boardrooms to elevate feeling good and emotional decision making over objective customer and shareholder focused decision making. This is cultural rot. It's almost so bad that it can't be explained just by the fourth turning. The Silicon Valley people have this term they call inshitification. And what I think we're seeing is cultural and shittification. The establishment order, the corporate welfare queens who have formed an oligarchy with the uniparty kleptocracy. These people have squeezed every ounce of rent out of this. The Americans are five times less capable of paying down their share of the government debt than they were just 20 years ago. And so again this has been coming for decades. But something changed. Something changed in the middle 2000s. Bernanke bucks socialization of bankster losses, massive bipartisan rescue acts that shoved money into green energy scams, rebuilding America and shovel ready infrastructure projects. Those things did not result in a better America. The American dream is essentially dead. It's unbelievable. We cut corporate tax rates and assumed that a non Christian society would just trickle that down on Americans. And what did they do? They sent all those jobs overseas. They own offshore to everything that wasn't nailed down. It's unbelievable. They'll hire illegal immigrants and flood the border. Hire illegal immigrants and then offshore all of their engineering work to India and then bring India here to take the high paying jobs and then they'll send all the manufacturing jobs to China. Absolutely. Gutting the heartland of America. And then they'll create a society focused on blue, you know, population center, big city progressivism that is now going to be co opted basically by the Red Green alliance and through Takia, shove Sharia law down our throats. So this is what's coming this generation. Gen Z, they, they do not care that much about capitalism because they haven't even seen capitalism and they weren't even taught who Adam Smith was.
A
The benefits.
D
This is what happens when you destroy society. These are the people that. And it's like, yes, there are good ones. Yes, Turning point is reaching some people. But everybody's like, oh, turning point's going to fix this. No Turning Point succeeds because they're the only ones. A voice in the wilderness doing this. And it's an important message and it's, that's it. The battlefield is empty. Republicans aren't doing this. You go to Mark.
A
Yeah, hang on, we got to bounce. And I don't, I don't want to jam this in because I want to have you back on tomorrow to finish it. Where do people go in the interim?
D
I did a whole video on this Rasmussen underscore poll on YouTube. It's the most recent video. It's a long watch and you'll probably want to drink after it. So go check it out there.
A
We'll see you tomorrow. We're going to break it down and show it tomorrow so the wind reap the whirlwind. We'll see you back here at 10:00am Eastern Daylight Time when you will be back in the world.
C
Sam.
A
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Date: October 8, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Guests: Jack Posobiec, Stan Yodakovsky, Kimberly Fletcher, Mark Mitchell
This episode serves as a reflective analysis two years after the October 7th, 2023 Hamas attack on Israel, delving into the alleged failures of Israeli and allied intelligence, the impact on global geopolitics, and shifting world order—referred to as the “Fourth Turning.” The conversation transitions to France, described as on the edge of political collapse, the rising tide of global unrest, and domestic challenges in Western democracies. Other segments tackle the international parental rights movement via Moms for America, and generational and political trends in the US. Throughout, Bannon and guests maintain a tone of urgency and confrontation.
"This is not a terrorist attack. This is a paramilitary or a military." (A, 06:47)
"There are decades where nothing happens and there are weeks where decades happen and we are in one of those weeks. Welcome to the fourth Turning..." (C, 05:56)
"Come on, man, give me a break. You got those organizations alone, have half the guys over there on the payroll. Why has there been no answer how that happened?" (A, 13:49)
Critique of Netanyahu: Bannon faults Netanyahu for congratulating Biden post-2020 election and distancing from Trump:
"Netanyahu could not wait to get to the microphone to be rubbing up on Biden, the Democrats." (A, 08:59)
Asserts that only Trump brought stability:
"Trump, Mr. Chaos. Right, Mr. Chaos. The only person in living memory to provide stability in that region." (A, 10:41)
Hezbollah and Iran: Warnings of coordinated moves by “Persian-backed” forces and further destabilization.
Funding Claims: Asserts, echoing Trump’s statement, that "American taxpayer dollars help fund these attacks" (C, 11:28).
"In the fourth turning, we. The third turning is the unraveling, the collapse of institutions. And then the fourth turning is the conflict..." (C, 12:40) "We are in a conflict phase right now. We've got a president up there who has no idea what he's doing..." (C, 12:40)
"...if we're going to be involved and we get dragged into this thing, we need to know exactly what happened. And I am shocked there hasn't been more coming out of the government to demand that." (A, 19:01)
"Macron, who claims to be the political Heir of De Gaulle has completely betrayed the essence of the Fifth Republic." (B, 22:58)
"It would be the sixth [Prime Minister] in two years. Sounds more like a banana republic than an advanced Western democracy." (B, 25:07)
"The Islamization of France is quite far advanced... this has massive geopolitical impact implications for the United States." (A, 25:18)
"The Fifth Republic in France is collapsing before our eyes... The last time they had a new Republic was in 1958 with the return of de Gaulle." (A, 19:37)
"What we have realized is that moms are dealing with [the same] things all over... First, we want our children to be safe... Second, a good education... Third, opportunities to succeed." (E, 35:25)
"...President Trump is now at the helm. And instead of having an adversary in the White House calling us domestic terrorists, we have an advocate." (E, 35:48)
"The hand that rocks the cradle really does rule the world." (F, 34:23; picked up by Bannon at 40:48)
"These people, many of them don't think they'll ever own a home. They're completely checked out." (D, 45:49)
"The establishment order... have squeezed every ounce of rent out of this. The Americans are five times less capable of paying down their share of the government debt than they were just 20 years ago..." (D, 48:11)
"It's not even just a Republican vs. Democrat thing... There is cultural rot. It's almost so bad that it can't be explained just by the fourth turning." (D, 47:40) "The battlefield is empty. Republicans aren't doing this." (D, 50:26)
This episode of WarRoom Battleground underscores a recurring theme of crisis, transition, and the perceived breakdown of institutions—whether in Israel, France, or the United States. The urgency for investigation into intelligence failures, skepticism of current US and Western leadership, and the role of grass-roots activism are central threads. Both global ideological conflict (“Fourth Turning”) and intimate personal battles (parental rights, youth despair) are cast as facets of a broad, high-stakes confrontation for the future of the West.