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WarRoom Battleground EP 868: WarRoom Reports On Claim Space Aliens Are Editing Human DNA And Asks If Illegal Aliens Caused Brexit
WarRoom Battleground EP 868: WarRoom Reports On Claim Space Aliens Are Editing Human DNA And Asks If Illegal Aliens Caused Brexit...
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Good evening, Harnwell here at the helm at Steve Bannon's War Room. Fascinating interview coming up for you guys next. When I saw in the Daily Mail a couple of days ago that a scientist has discovered, according to his research, that there appears to be aliens inserting DNA into the human genome genome via people. People who self report as having been abducted. This was something I wanted to know more about. So it's great honor for us today on Steve Bannon's War Room that we have Dr. Max Remel, the chief executive and founder of the DNA Resonance Research foundation, who's the lead researcher on this specific study that's been reported. Dr. Rempel, thanks very much for coming on the show. First of all, thank you. Now the War Room audience. The War Room posse is known the world over for being extremely perceptive and extremely intelligent. It's not however a specialized audience on the intricacies of DNA. So my first question for you then is what exactly? How can you best describe what it is that you have discovered? Because I see you're quoted as saying that large sequences of DNA have have been found inserted into 11 families of I think 581 that you researched. Tell us firstly what you have discovered and then we'll talk a little bit about the methodology as how you've gone about discovering it.
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Thanks Ben, for having me. Hello everybody. So as usual in the title of the article it's shortened. My original publication said preliminary evidence and preliminary is super important. It's not final evidence, it's just the first step. It's more like pilot project, proof of principle project. And yes, the idea was to look for traces of alien hybridization program. And I'm independent scientist since 2008 and since 2009 I am studying ufology as well. So in the first weeks as I started Studying, I already found a group of ufology headed in Rochester, upstate New York, headed by Cookie Stringfellow and Richard Dolan. And in the first session there was an abductee, a contactee, a person who was actually taken many times and, and told lots of stories. So I had wonderful head start. And by 2012 I already wrote a book about alien abductions. And my main interest was to combine the idea of the aliens, UFOs with the idea of genetics. How we combine the idea of Darwinian evolution, creation story and ancient aliens, all of that has to somehow come together. And after a while I immersed myself and in my first book, I already was pretty confident. And since then, nothing much changed. So the idea in 2012 already was there. So the idea is that we were manipulated by the aliens all through history, from ancient times. But there is also recent abductions, recent manipulations. So we are hybrids, ancient hybrids, Ball. But also we're continuously being upgraded, improved, changed. So in recent manipulations, the story of lots of abductees documented wonderfully. I wouldn't. I don't need to prove. There is a lot of books, a lot of evidence. Now with artificial intelligence, you just ask artificial intelligence. You will be pointed to proper books, proper YouTube channels, and proper interviews and testimonies by people who were abducted. So the scenario goes very simply that two parents are taken, their sperm and eggs were taken, and then genetically manipulated. Then the mother is impregnated, placed back, both are placed back in their homes. The memory is usually wiped, but there are often physical evidence of manipulation, surgical pain and so on. So, so, and then a child is born, which is a child of two parents, but there was genetic manipulation. So finally there was an announcement recently, like earlier spring. Go ahead.
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So the first thing I just want to clarify here, Dr. Remble, is what you're suggesting is that children who have been born to parents to one or both parents who claim to have been abducted, abducted genetically, have the. The genetic inheritance one would expect of a child of two parents, but inserted into that, into their genetic structure of sequences of DNA which have no origin in either of the two parents?
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Yeah, that's the idea. That. The idea. I didn't prove it. Again, I didn't prove it, but I developed a method which can easily prove it. I need more data. And now anybody can do it. Essentially the idea was that if there was a genetic manipulation, we should find, if you analyze both parents and a child, we can easily subtract and c compare the sequences of all three and see if there is any insertions which Weren't present in either of parents. In classical genetics you always get one chromosome from the mother and a copy of that chromosome from the father. It's called Mendelian inheritance. And Mendelian inheritance, I just checked for that. I used already public data and it's called Thousand genomes project and I found the insertions in 11 offspring in this 521 families pool. And I checked all the families. They had proper Mendelian inheritance. The children were always. There was a filter, I computationally put a filter that children were always really carried parents DNA. But there was some insertions and one of the insertion and a couple of insertions standing nearby were pretty huge. I think it's about 300 variants in the insertion and length was 16 kilobases which is 16,000 steps in DNA. So it was pretty profound. Some of their families had similar insertions. So that's what I found. But I mean that is a huge but I mean for me it was a discovery. But then after I self published, it's not peer reviewed, I self published just uploaded in the platforms and then I looked more, I dug more and I found that these samples were cultured. Essentially these are samples which were taken in the 80s. Then they took blood, they cultured the cells and then they kept in a cell culture and then it was sequenced. Unfortunately in the culturing step there could be insertions just from the technology, from the technique they infected with the virus. It's standard lab procedure for amplifying the cells. Unfortunately that big sample cannot actually be used to prove the insertion. The method works, I show it. It can be done actually at home on my laptop and I published the programs, but the programs were written by AI. So I use Claude 4.0 now there is Claude 4.5 is much better in ChatGPT for programming. So it can be done. I did it in two, three weeks. So anybody can do it. Or you can hire a programmer on Upwork. It would cost like $3,000 to compare three sequences. And sequencing a human genome costs about $1,000. Lots of labs do it from saliva or buccal swab from inside the chick. You can swap the cells, send it to commercial lab, you will get back a file and you can give it to a programmer and the programmer can compare. So anybody can do it.
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And am I right in thinking that your source material then for this analysis are publicly available genetic accounts from companies like 23andMe and what have you. People go for the genetic testing that they publish publicly the analysis and then you're Taking that publicly available analysis and running it through AI to see if there are any unaccounted it's for.
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There is a nuance. The companies don't publish it. They keep the, and in the recent years they keep all the privacy security and they don't release any information because. Because recent day, in recent years, even having the sequence is possibly a breach of privacy. This is older data, that's why it's in public databases. And the reason it's in public databases is because when there is federal or other public funding, then you are required to upload your results. But nowadays the scientists are uploading the results, but only researchers with proper approvals can get access to that. So I used the older data and that's why it's poorer quality. But yes, it's Thousand Genomes project. It's a consortium of multiple publicly funded institutions. Yeah, it's available for everyone to test. But I think this data is not good for testing that hypothesis. We need fresh samples from blood with uncultured samples from blood or saliva or buccal swab.
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Would you just give us a two minute reminder and explain what the human genome is?
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Okay. DNA is an actual chemical, a polymer and a chromosome contains one molecule, continuous molecule of DNA. If you stretch it, it's 10 centimeters. If you extract DNA from an adult body, it would be 250 grams. And it would because it's fluffy. If you can dry it, it's fill a big pot. So it's a chemical. And the sequence of steps in DNA is known. It's called sequence of human genome. If you combine all chromosomes together, that makes a sequence of human genome. And it is 6 billion letters. It would fit on a flash drive. It's like nearly three to six gigabytes. What else do you need to know? The sequence is easy to sequence, easy to find it. And now lots of genomes of different species are sequenced, lots of humans are sequenced. And now sequencing is actively used in medical genetics to identify genetic disorders and actually try to treat them one way or another.
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I'm going to ask you in just a couple of moments about the genome and the insertion and the nature of the genetic sequences, the DNA sequences that your hypothesis is that has been inserted into the the human DNA that origins with the two parents. But first, Dr. Rempel, if you wouldn't mind standing by. I'll be back in two minutes to follow that question with you. When inflation jumps, when you hear that the national Debt is over $37 trillion, do you ever think maybe now would Be a good time to buy some gold, whether as a hedge against inflation, peace of mind during global instability, or just for sensible diversification. Birchgold Group believes every American should own physical gold. Birch Gold can help you roll an existing IRA or 401k into an IRA in gold. And Birch Gold is the only precious metals company. Therefore we at the War Room Trust, as do tens of of thousands of their customers. So make right now your first time to buy gold and take advantage of the support that Birch Gold, the consultancy that they will give you when you call them. Text Bannon to 989-898 for further details. That's Bannon B A double N O N to 9,898. Well, Dr. Rempel, I see that one of the things that you've been highlighting is the desire to pursue your research using next generation sequencing, known as NGS in the industry or Whole Genome Sequencing wgs. Could you tell us a bit about those two techniques and what they'll give access to to if you are able to get your hands on them? And then just tell me something because this is what has piqued my interest here. The genetic, the extraneous, let's call it this, that this way, the extraneous DNA sequences. Right.
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We are.
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Am I making a false assumption to assume that this is actually human DNA even if it doesn't come from either parent? Or could it be identified from another source completely?
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Yeah, the sequence is very rich. So once we see the sequences, we can tell if it is coming from father, mother, other humans or from non humans. It would be pretty straightforward. If the sequence is sufficiently long, we can, we can tell it even sometimes 20 nucleotides, 20 steps of DNA is sufficient to tell that. And if it's more than 20, if it's like a thousand, it would be huge evidence that it is not from human. Next generation sequencing is around for many years now and there are two varieties. One is called short read sequencing when you get 150 nucleotides and that is what costs $1,000 per genome. To sequence your genome, you submit your buccal swab and then you get back your whole genome sequence with short reads. There are long reads by PAC Bio where it costs about $3.5k and then you get even better quality where you read through difficult parts which are called repetitive sequences. So I would be very interested in looking in repetitive sequences between the genes because that's where I think the alien modifications might, might be present.
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That is absolutely astonishing. Could you the, could you tell me A bit more about these. The large sequences of DNA in the 11 families, the 11 families out of the 581 these. These sequences that do not appear to match either parent. Even using the technology that's available to you at the moment before you, you take your search to the next stage that the NGS or the WGS techniques, what have you been able to identify about these extraneous genetic sequences in these 11 cases?
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I cannot tell much. It was just the fact that they were not present in the parents. I was working only with variants, I didn't look at the complete sequence and I was looking oddly only at known human markers. So that is a limitation. Obviously it would be nice to look at between the markers, but with the simplistic computation I had, I only compared what was published. The variants, human variants and the variant can be say one letter or another. There are four letters in the genome, A G, C, T. So it could be A or G. And if two parents have say AA and AA genotypes in that position and the child has gg, that's non parental variant. I didn't go any further, but I found that there are stretches of. It's called haplotypes, but stretches of variants which are not from parents. But again, it can be an artifact of culture and so I cannot say I proved it. I don't even know is it alien? Is it some unknown biological phenomena or just an artifact? At the moment it's unknown.
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The Daily Mail reports that a high percentage of people with neurodivergent traits such as autism, ADHD and Asperger's could potentially carry these alien genetic insertions. Of course, the Daily Mail adds up. This is simply speculative, but could you say a bit more about that theory?
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Yes, the report was very good. The reporter exchanged emails with me a couple times and I find it very good. I don't have any. I don't see any errors in there. The reporter expressed what was in the paper and properly asked me questions. So that is a theory speculation, but it's an educated guess. I. I spoke a lot to contactees, experiencers and there is a. The whole new age community where we speak online, in zoom conferences, in person, in festivals. So I learned a lot in. In since 2009, it's it. It has been a quite a ride. So the idea is that my ID and some other people idea is that artists, especially the talented ones, the telepathic ones, alien hybrids, that we know that the aliens are telepathic, it's pretty common knowledge and that is what they turn on in the hybrids. That's telepathy. That is turned on. Telepathy and other psychic abilities. It makes a person more sensitive and, and that's why for the hybrids, it's hard to stay in a mainstream civilized society because you have constantly face negativity and face deception and you, you cannot yourself survive in civilized society without being deceptive. You have to constantly lie, say untruth, and that's part of civilized life. So yeah, that's the idea that the autists are alien experimentation. They try to upgrade the humanity. The humankind is overdue for the upgrade. The whole vibration, the whole fabric of reality is changing and we need to genetically catch up with that. And there is an old prediction, a new prediction, that humankind evolves in a new species. It's called the sixth Root Race by Blavatsky and it's called the Homogalacticus by Bashar. It's a well known message from out there that we are evolving. We are not. It looks like we don't have the autism or the next species. It's intermediate step. And the next species I heard, is going to be starting to be born in about a couple years. So I'm looking forward. We probably will become obsolete like dinosaurs and a new species will start popping up among us. They will be telepathic and talented and psychically talented.
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We've only got five minutes left now of the show. My final two questions for you then. It's mentioned that your research, as you have yourself said on the show at this moment, isn't conclusive. The two parts of this question are what would it take from the research which, which you're hoping to start for that, for your conclusion, for your findings to become conclusive? Can you just sort of synthesize what, what you've been saying on the show? What would it take for, for you to discover, for your, for your research to be considered conclusive? And the second thing is, in, in the Karl Popper sense, have you got any criteria of falsifiability? That is say, what would it take for you to discover, to suggest that this, that your research thus far isn't actually the case?
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Right. So the next step I think would be to sequence actual families of abductees. I already analyzed genotypes by 23andMe of two families of abductees, self reported, self identified, and unfortunately, 23andMe is only half a million variants. And it's not enough. I found few insertions, but when it's like one or four insertions in a row it's not like having 16 kilobases with hundreds of insertions. The statistical power of that is not enough. So we need full genome sequencing, all genome sequencing. And that would cost about, I would say for seven families, about $100,000 to collect, analyze. I don't have to do it myself. They can mail the samples to the commercial facilities, receive back the data, and I would analyze the data. But that would only show that abductees have higher rate of insertions than average population. And the question is how many do we have unknown people who don't know that they were whether they are hybrids. So I estimate maybe 5 to 10% of the population are hybrids. So it's the background would be like in a normal population with the 5% say and among it would be maybe 80% would have insertions. Then claiming that these are actual alien insertions is much harder than we need actual to sequence actual alien DNA. And maybe we can go and sequence some of the elongated skulls, other remains, mummies and stuff like that, and then compare the data for final proof. There will be quite a feat after that. But I think for 100,000 I could sequence maybe seven families. And people started already. In the past I had some collection of abductees on conferences and festivals. They, they come together and now I get emails from abductees suggesting their DNA to, to be analyzed. So, so I think it's, it's quite possible.
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And for the, the criteria of false falsifiability.
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I think it's a stepwise process. And the first criteria is that percentage of insertions in self identified abductees compared to average population would be the first step. And then we need the criteria, we really need the alien DNA to show that these insertions are really actually alien. I think if other people will start doing the same and then if you compare the results and we find that the insertions are repeatedly the same in self reported abductees, then possibly that would be a stronger evidence. Is it answering your question?
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B
That's perfect. Dr. Rempel, you're often described now as an advocate for greater literacy in alien hybridization and DNA resonance. Where can people go on social media either to support your research, to learn more about what you're doing, or even to inform themselves about what the implications are, should your research, your groundbreaking research eventually prove to be conclusively verified?
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Yeah, my site is DNA resonance.org and xg1.org XG1 stands for Extraterrestrial genetics. And I recommend just ask artificial Intelligence for best YouTube channel channels about alien abductions and light workers and new age new age teachers. And especially about telepathy. There is a big awakening to telepathy. I think that's great. So telepathy tapes I think would be the next step to research.
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Dr. Max Remple, chief executive and founder of the DNA Resonance Research Foundation. Many thanks indeed from for coming on the show and come back and give us a further update if you make progress. God bless you.
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Welcome back. Well, we had a lot of positive feedback when Joseph Robertson was last on the show to give us the briefing on the Fabian Society. We're very pleased that he's come back on the show. Today we're going to break down an interview, an important interview that Nick Clegg gave to to cnn. Nick Clegg, you of course you remember former British Deputy Prime Minister under David Cameron in between 2010, 2015 and the meta. He was President for Global affairs before, I think, resigning last year. Let's start off with the, with the first clip. Denver, if you wouldn't mind.
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I think the brewing discontent in the United Kingdom about being part of this European club more or less started from the moment at which the United Kingdom joined the European Community in the early 70s. There's always been this tension between the kind of continental centric European Union built around particularly Germany and France and the act of post war reconciliation and the UK being much more of a kind of maritime island nation. It's always had these tensions.
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Joseph Robertson, what interested me about this interview and first you can respond saying, if I've got this right, because to me Nick Clegg basically is the voice of the, of the, the mainstream, apolitical British establishment. It's not really mediated by partisan politics. I think that's what you're hearing is exactly. I think the British establishment would think, as the interview goes on, you see, he says a number of things which I think are true, but of course fudges the conclusions. But that first part there, the introduction is what he's saying that strikes me as being pretty accurate to describe where the UK is, that the mentality, the island mentality, which isn't a pejorative of the UK is right.
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I think broadly, yeah, in, in, in. In broad terms, the problem with, with Nick and God bless him, I'd almost forgotten he existed. But other centrists like him in this country as well, who perhaps want to play it, being the voice of the adult in the room, not getting too aggressive on either side of the debate, is that they forget their historical timelines. And of course the issue wasn't just us joining the European Union, it was the Maastricht Treaty, which was really the creation of the eu. That's a different issue to joining the single market. But what that did is it embedded our foreign policy, our exchange of information, trade deals, etc, far more closely with the trajectory that Europe was on. Of course we still retained the pound. But Nick is kind of conveniently skipping over the fact that one of the big issues wasn't just the immigration or just sovereignty or currency or any of these things, but it's actually this idea that we might be moving towards a European army, that we might actually lose our sense of national determination. There was a lot more going on, I think, and he likes to gloss over that fact. But yeah, the reality is, you know, broadly, he's correct about the reasons, I guess we are a maritime nation. We are an empire originally. So we are used to doing business with the whole world and not just Europe. And in fact, if you go back historically, Europe hasn't particularly been a strong ally of the United Kingdom. We spent a long time warring with France up until sort of early modern history. And yeah. So I think Nick's Nick's basic premise is that, you know, if we could all just get together in a room and sing Kumbaya, then maybe things will be better. And I think it goes a little bit deeper than that.
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Is the pure state of the Liberal Democrat mentality. I'm glad he I'm glad he says I'm glad he started off with that. And we're gonna go we're gonna get on to the immigration point second but but I'm glad that he flagged this thing up right, because there is another issue in addition to the immigration issue, which is obviously the fundamental front and center. There is this idea the UK There was when we were still in the EU it didn't fit right with the British mentality thinking that there was another organization that that was sovereign that was over the British Parliament, because traditionally and there's some debates here about the Supreme Court, but let's not go down that rabbit hole right now, because the Supreme Court has been created by an act of Parliament and can easily be rescinded by by repealing the act of Parliament in the UK Thousand year evolving parliamentary tradition Parliament, the king in Parliament is sovereign. There is no authority above that. And it did not sit well with the British mindset that you have a lot of these European countries that have only been democracies for five minutes in Brussels, producing laws and regulations that over that over rod overrode and the UK Parliament, there is that sovereignty issue. And I think it does come down to the fact that as an island nation, we've always had this separate evolving political philosophy, the Anglo American tradition, and not really the continental one, which is sort of pushed very strongly by Napoleon. I'm glad he flagged that up. But let's get on to the immigration thing now. Denver, if you wouldn't mind.
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Clip 2 the conservatives decided to hold the referendum. The thing that really, really kind of dominated all the headlines at the time was the Mediterranean migration crisis, people fleeing the conflict in Syria in particular. And there's a stable of very Eurosceptic anti European newspapers in the United Kingdom who are very, very powerful. And they extremely skillfully conflated the question of our economic status in this huge single market Which I remain of the view had done, had helped the United Kingdom enormously. They conflated that with, do you want all these people coming across the Mediterranean and flooding into our country?
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So this is where he starts, I think, to go on a parallel track. This is often the suggestion that you get from the remainers that the Euroscepticism in the UK was simply whipped up by the Murdoch press, who and wouldn't have existed in a latent sense in the UK if it weren't, if it weren't for that. What was your reaction to that?
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Well, I mean, again, conveniently skipping around the real issues at play. You know, immigration was, you know, not even on the Horizon in 1992 with the Maastricht Treaty. And I think he's conveniently sidestepping, you know, like some of the issues I've already started to mention. But the other thing to bear in mind is that of course it was really under the Cameron Clegg partnership in 2012 that immigration really started to take a serious uptick in this country. This isn't something that had been happening since the 90s. It didn't even really happen under Blair. He certainly paved the legislative way for it to happen. He opened, open the borders. But the people who really flooded the country with not just the small boat crossings, which are relatively new in terms of British political history across the channel, but also in terms of wider acceptance of refugees from the continent and other deals that were made that all comes post 2010, really obviously culminating in the so called Boris wave and Boris Johnson, which is long after Brexit had been done. So, you know, I think this idea that immigration had a big role to play back in 2016, seen when the, you know, the original vote was taken, is absolute nonsense. I mean, I remember that was one of my first major votes. You know, I'm in my late 20s now. It was a pivotal political moment for many people my age. And I don't think I was really thinking about immigration. I was thinking purely more about sovereignty. That's why myself and my friends, who are perhaps more politically minded, debated the topic. I think if you, if you ask the north of England, was it immigration that drove you to vote for British Brexit? You get a resounding no. And that just shows you how out of touch people like Clegg really are with the wider population. I think it's always interesting listening to him speak because he talks about consensus narratives and how, you know, parties need to work together on the center to keep, keep the, the populists Out. He likes to say things like that quite a lot. The reality is what he's trying to say is he wants to keep the voice of the nation out of Westminster. I think you can read between the lines there and essentially realise that this was very much not just a sovereignty issue with the eu, but also a growing discontent with our own leadership because we were too beholden to international treaties and willing to actually chop up our own sovereignty purely for the sake of a more convenient globalist structure. And the other point to make, of course on that is that when immigration did come around as a big topic, you know, probably more towards, towards the late 2000 and tens, really, Clegg was nowhere to be seen. You know, he can talk about, you know, the media stirring up this narrative, but the reality is that that was only stirred up because the people wanted it to be stirred up again. The British press, it does try to lead on perhaps character assassinations and attempts to take down individual politicians, but generally speaking, it's pretty good at reading the room on what the British people want to hear being talked about, unless perhaps it's the BBC, which of course stands for absolutely nothing except itself. So I would disagree.
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What I seen what he's trying to do then. Obviously, when Liberal Democrats talk about immigration, they're obviously trying to suggest that the Brexit vote was being powered by a subversive below radar racism and xenophobia. And that of course is absolutely an outrageous slur. Standby. Joseph, I'm going to come back to you for in two minutes as we dig down on the idea that immigration was the rocket fuel behind Brexit. Maybe you missed the last IRS deadline or you haven't filed taxes in a while. Let me be clear. The IRS is cracking down harder than ever and this won't go away on its own. That's why you need Tax Network usa. They don't just know the irs. They have a preferred direct line to the irs. They know which agents to deal with and which to avoid. Their expert negotiators have one goal, which is to settle your tax problems quickly and in your favor. Their team has helped clear over 1 billion in tax debt. Whether you owe 10,000 or 10 million in, even if your books are a mess and you haven't even filed for years, Tax Network USA can help. But don't wait. This won't fix itself. Call Tax Network USA right now. It's free. Talk to a strategist. And finally put this behind you. Call 1-800-958-1000. That's 1-800-958-10000 or visit tnusa.com/bannon and if you are a homeowner, you need to listen to this. In today's AI and cyber world, scammers are stealing home titles with more ease than ever. And your equity is the target. Here's how it works. Criminals forge your signature on one document, one document alone. Use a fake notary stamp, pay a small fee with your county and boom, your home title has been transferred out of your name. They then take out loans using my equity or even sell your property. You won't even know it's happened until you get a collection or foreclosure notice. Use promo code steveometitlelock.com to make sure your title is still in your name. You'll also get a free title history report plus a free 14 day trial of their million dollar triple lock protection. That's 24,7 monitoring of your title. Urgent alert to any changes. And if fraud should happen, they'll spend up to $1 million to fix it. Go to hometitle lock.com now use promo code Steve. That's hometitlelock.com promo code Steve Denver, if you wouldn't mind the third clip.
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D
But, but immigration was the rocket fuel and it's almost everywhere in Europe. I definitely think it, I definitely think it was other people might, some people say, oh no, it was because of all the economic difficulties post the 2008 financial crisis. I think that was definitely an important contributing factor. But yes, I think the very visible items on people's evening news, on the front page of the newspapers of this, what came across to people as uncontrolled flight of folk across the Mediterranean definitely was as you put it, the rocket fuel for sure.
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B
So here's the hypothesis that there are many, that many even on our side of the debate. Joseph thinks that, that immigration was the, the rocket fool for, for Brexit. And I can, I can, I can bite into that somewhat, but I have to draw the line at the suggestion that this is really, when he's talking about immigration, it's really code for talking about racism.
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E
Yeah, totally. I mean if you look through the, the demographic breakdown, many second or third generation immigrants in this country voted for Brexit. I mean, so it's not really a racist issue. I think there's more, perhaps you could talk about the labor market, I think against the economic, economic issues as perhaps more appropriate because of course what immigration was doing even at that, that time was taking away more low skilled, low paying jobs from the economy and therefore not allowing people to get foot on the ladder. That was already beginning. That was certainly starting. That certainly contributed. But this idea that mass and controlled immigration was, was the rocket fuel for Brexit is just total nonsense. I mean, we wanted to move away from every aspect of the European Union. And sure, you know, immigration was a concern, it was one part of that, but it was, in my opinion at the time, a far smaller part than it is now in the British political landscape. I mean, you can't move a day without seeing a headline on immigration, deportation or any other flavor of debate on that topic now. And of course, that's something that Nigel Farage is massively capitalizing on now. And he was one of the voices speaking out about this 15 years ago, before it was fashionable. But that's the whole point. I think it wasn't that fashionable to talk about immigration. You had lone voices like, like Nigel's crying in the wilderness prepare the way for mass immigration. And eventually it did happen. But I don't think that Brexit was necessarily a symptom of that. I think it was a growing malcontent with the supranational elite and yes, the echr and of course, our own Supreme Court still stay in place and perhaps tie us to the European Union still somewhat in the way they operate. But largely we have been able to do trade deals around the world that we wouldn't have been able to do pre2019, pre2020, and they've been very successful. I mean, look at the amount of commerce that we're now able to do with America. And going back to that point you made earlier about the anglospheric relationship, particularly the, you know, the Kansas nations, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, UK and of course the US being a Big brother partner in all of that, those things are now allowed to flourish in a way that they weren't before because we can go out and do our own trade deals.
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B
Though I'm still waiting for Singapore on the Thames. Okay, Denver, let's go for the fourth and final clip.
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D
That kind of politics needs to learn how to deal with the populace by being a lot more aggressive and populist itself. I think at the moment, what we've got, certainly in the United Kingdom and across Europe, what you've got is you've got a bunch of political parties that were formed in a, in a period of time which no longer applies. It was all about high tax, low tax, in favour of the state, not in favor of the state, and so on. Now the dividing line is a completely different one. It's about culture wars, it's about openness of being closed, particularly around immigration, around globalization. And so you've got a bunch of parties who actually agree more with each other than they do with the insurgent populace. But they haven't yet worked out how to become the sum of their parts.
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B
That's it. Right.
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C
That, that is.
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B
He comes so close to the truth, but of course swerves away from the conclusion at the last moment. This is the Uni party, this is the, the Tory party that tried to sabotage Brexit after the vote, getting together with Labour. That, that sort of, that sort of was always, you know, you know, long after the 1980s and the longest suicide note in history of the it's manifesto in 83 big more sort of force for staying in Brexit for the remainders. He's right on this point. You have a uni party that is out of step with the British public. And when his conclusion, his recipe for success therefore is to try doing populism on pro European grounds, really they lost the trick because they had everything in their hands but, but they failed to make it work for the ordinary working guy. And hence Nigel Farage has emerged as the, as the alternative to the Uni party lockdown. Joseph Robertson.
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E
Yeah, I mean the biggest con in this country is liblab.
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C
Com.
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E
You know, that's, that's literally the three party uniparty. They don't really change policy between the three of them on the core issues. They all believe in net zero, they all believe in similar levels of taxation, although perhaps, you know, the Tories occasionally bring that back down slightly. But in, in general, and certainly on mass immigration, the Tories were the worst out of the bunch. So this idea that we have any choice in the matter, I mean again, you know, you only need to ask former Prime Minister Liz Truss about this. And the reality is when she tried to radically shift the narrative, thinking that she had control as Prime Minister, the blob responded by saying, oh no you don't. And they kicked her out. And you know, this is the way our, not just our elected officials acts. And this is a point I made before. You know, it's actually the administrative deep state. It's the way they think and their thinking feeds into the politics of this. You don't step out of line and if you do, then you are met with consequences. Now I find it interesting that he essentially says we need to deal with the populists, so let's become populists. Because this is a really key point. They don't understand the Lexus lexicon. They're using populism as a narrative has no connotation of left or right. I would say Zach Polanski, now leader of the Green Party in the UK is a hard leftist, is a populist in many ways. He, he, he typifies the populist. He says absolutely crazy and outrageous statements to garner attention from people he think want to hear it. Populism I think has been conflated with Peronism, which for a more, more politically minded viewers will be, you know, known to them as something that came out of Argentina. That kind of right wing populism, which is what they're talking about is something very different to what we're talking about.
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B
Sadly, that's all we've got time for. We could continue this Joseph Robertson 10 seconds. Where do people go on social media to keep up with this superb analysis?
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E
You can find me on X at JR types and you can also my own stuff stack under the same handle and from there you'll probably find me everywhere else. So yeah, please follow your interest.
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B
Joseph Robinson thanks very much for coming. As always.
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A
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