Del Bigtree (16:31)
Yeah, because I recognize, look, I used to be a liberal progressive from Boulder, Colorado, and an environmentalist and all of those things. I know what it's like to have a bias. I know. I mean, I've had to really, you know, deal with a giant. You know, I consider myself like the prodigal son here. I'm as conservative as it gets. I want freedom. I want as little government as absolutely possible. Now, but I remember how I used to think, and I remember what mattered to me. And I wanted information that didn't come from the bias side of what, you know, was against me. And so it has never been lost on me. And people will say, well, Dell, why didn't, you know, if you, if you guy gave you the study, he handed it to us at this dinner back in, you know, 2020. Why didn't you publish it? Well, number one, if I publish it, it looks like I did it. And everyone say, well, Del, big guy, it's his study. No, we wanted it to come from someone that is clearly not on our side. That's the only way I believe we would ever trust the science. It has to come from the other side. When I ran, you know, when I was working with Bobby, preparing him, should he have, you know, should, God willing, he get into the White House somewhere and where he landed, HHS is perfect. But I said, Bobby, you cannot fill. You can't do these studies with a bunch of people that have already been, like, said to be anti vaxxers. You've got to find great scientists that everyone trusts, which is what he did. Look at who he got. Dr. Marty Makary, a guy that was pro COVID vaccine. Dr. Mehmet Oz supported the COVID vaccine. Bobby did not surround himself with shills and neither did President Trump in going across the aisle and picking Robert Kennedy Jr. If you want change, you need to have that pressure of debate. You got to have the honesty there. And that's why this study was so important. And I'm not going to say, look, Paul Thomas did a great study, but it was clear he was already questioning the safety of vaccines. So you could argue he had a bias. Dr. Anthony Mawson, that attack was less about his bias and more about the size of his study with the homeschool study. But they always have these attacks. I just thought, what if we could get someone that is so publicly pro vaccine, comes from the institute that gives us most of our vaccines and does whatever studies they're going to do on them and has A large enough database, Steve, this is one of the best databases in the world. It may even be better than the database the CDC had, because not only do they have all the children in the Henry Ford health system, they are both the insurer and the provider. So they get all of their vaccine records, all of their health records, that even if that kid is out of state and maybe gets sick or injured in another state, they still pay the insurance, so they still get that data. So they had all the data on these, you know, 18,000 kids, you can't get better data to study than that. But for that reason, I've never wanted to like just say trust me, because Del Beatri said so or because Robert Kennedy Jr. Said so. I want the science to show you. So it's about the science. And that's why I'm so passionate about the fact that Henry Ford did this. And look, I don't know what they're saying, defamation, I'll say it over and over again. They're the greatest research, one of the greatest research institutes in the world. Dr. Marcus Zerbos is a world renowned scientist. He knows how to do this study. I believe he's done it as well as it can be done. And now we've really got to take a deep look because it doesn't stand alone, because it isn't an anomaly, because it is mirroring the studies done by these other people that you said had a bias. Well, now we've come from the other perspective. We're seeing the same reproducible results, which to me, that's real science. That's the scariest kind of science there is. Because now it shows us no matter who does this study, they're coming out with the same exact signal.