Podcast Summary: Bannon's War Room – Battleground EP 878

Title: Deep Dive: An Inconvenient Study
Date: October 28, 2025
Host: Steve Bannon (WarRoom.org)
Featured Guests: Del Bigtree, Dr. Marcus Zervos (via footage), Dr. Paul Thomas

Overview

This episode centers on Del Bigtree’s pursuit of the long-suppressed “vaccinated vs. unvaccinated” health outcome study conducted by Henry Ford Health and led by Dr. Marcus Zervos. The conversation explores chronic illnesses in American children, institutional resistance to vaccine safety studies, and the making of the documentary film "An Inconvenient Study." Bannon and Bigtree critically examine institutional incentives, the impact of the film, and the ongoing battle for medical transparency and bodily autonomy.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Context: Vaccine Safety & Chronic Illness

• Chronic Health in Children: The episode opens with Bannon and guests referencing statistics claiming over 50% of American children have permanent chronic diseases.
• The Unstudied Question: Despite pervasive vaccine mandates, neither U.S. nor global health agencies have completed a large-scale, direct comparison of fully vaccinated versus completely unvaccinated children's health outcomes.
• Quote (Del Bigtree, 10:39):

  "This is the study... every parent of a vaccine-injured child said where did they show that they're safe? Why won't they just do a comparative study...?”

2. Del Bigtree’s Advocacy & Legal Campaign

• Role in Pfizer Data Release: Bigtree details his organization's lawsuits that led to the release of Pfizer and Moderna vaccine trial data, as well as CDC’s V-safe program records.
• Emphasis on Sovereignty and Freedom:

  “If you don't control your own body, then... you have the same rights as a farm animal.” (Del Bigtree, 06:44)

• Legal Victories: Religious exemptions regained in Mississippi and ongoing lawsuits in West Virginia to restore vaccine opt-out rights.

3. The Henry Ford Study – What Happened?

• Initiation: Bigtree persuades Dr. Marcus Zervos—pro-vaccine and leader of the Moderna clinical trial at Henry Ford Health—to conduct the “holy grail” study (2016-2020).

• Institutional Resistance:

  • Despite completion, Henry Ford Health refuses publication citing study “limitations.”
  • Internal statements reveal fear of professional ruin and claim the study would be “devastating” to the vaccine program.

• Quote (Dr. Zervos, 36:04):

  “Publishing something like that, I might as well retire. I’d be finished.”

• Undercover Footage: Bigtree documents attempts to pressure Zervos to publish, eventually catching candid admissions on hidden camera.

• Data Leaked: The study is ultimately published through Senator Ron Johnson on the Senate website (2024-2025).

4. Study Results and Analysis

• Key Findings:

  • Vaccinated children had significantly higher rates of chronic illnesses versus unvaccinated children.
  • Examples:
    • 4x more likely to have asthma
    • 6x higher autoimmune disease
    • 5.5x more neurodevelopmental disorders
    • In some categories (ADHD, diabetes, learning disabilities), there were zero cases in the unvaccinated group
  • At age 10, only 43% of vaccinated children were free of chronic illness versus 83% of unvaccinated.

• Quote (Epidemiologist/Statistician, 38:00):

  “At 10 years, the likelihood of being free from a chronic illness was only 43% in the vaccinated group versus 83% in the unvaccinated group. It's a big difference.”

• Conclusion Statement (Steve Bannon reading):

  “Exposure to vaccination was independently associated with an overall 2.5-fold increase in the likelihood of developing a chronic health condition...” (37:32)

• Dr. Paul Thomas Commentary (41:02):

  “There are always pros and cons to everything. And when we have a deep-seated religious bias in favor of vaccines, we've lost balance. And when we lose balance, the entire scientific enterprise goes off track.”

5. Institutional Integrity and Pressure

• Career Threats: Zervos expresses personal and professional fear—asserting he would be “crushed” if the results were published; fears being viewed as the destroyer of vaccination orthodoxy.
• Quote (Dr. Zervos, 40:23):

  “I'm not a good person. I can't handle it... I'm not gonna do it because I've got other stuff to worry about.”

6. Documentary as Movement Leverage

• Film Release: “An Inconvenient Study” is now available for free dissemination.
• Bigtree’s Call to Action: Urges listeners to share the film to combat media suppression and institutional inertia.
• Quote (Del Bigtree, 48:53):

  “You can download the film... send them the link... It's free. We want you to give this to everybody... This is an ICBM missile laying in the middle of the field. We've got to pick it up. We've got to point it at the weakness in this group globalist system that is trying to rob us of our future.”

7. Emotional and Moral Reflections

• Human Cost: The episode includes the tragic story of Colton, a boy paralyzed after HPV vaccination, who ultimately took his own life (30:42–32:39).
• Ethical Dilemma: Zervos’ visible agony underscores the moral burden scientists face under institutional pressure—leading Bigtree and Bannon to reflect on collective courage.

Notable Quotes & Moments

• "[This is] the holy grail of all studies. ...Why can't a single health agency... do a study that compares the health outcomes of vaccinated to completely unvaccinated? ...That's why this study is so important."
  — Del Bigtree (10:39)

• “Publishing something like that, I might as well retire. I’d be finished.”
  — Dr. Marcus Zervos (36:04)

• "At 10 years, the likelihood of being free from a chronic illness was only 43% in the vaccinated group versus 83% in the unvaccinated group. It's a big difference."
  — Epidemiologist/Statistician (38:00)

• "If you don't control your own body, …you have the same rights as a farm animal. That’s how they're treating you…”
  — Del Bigtree (06:44)

• “There are always pros and cons… when we have a deep-seated religious bias in favor of vaccines, we've lost balance… large populations are harmed.”
  — Dr. Paul Thomas (41:02)

• "I'm not a good person. I can't handle it. ...I'm just not going to move. I'm not gonna do it because I've got other stuff to worry about."
  — Dr. Marcus Zervos (40:23)

• "This is the most important shot at big pharma... this film will go down in history as one of those moments... a leverageable moment."
  — Steve Bannon (25:35, 48:53 summary)

Important Timestamps

• 00:55 – Reference to chronic disease rates in US children.
• 04:35 – Del Bigtree details legal battle to release vaccine safety data.
• 10:39 – Bigtree explains the significance of the vaxxed/unvaxxed study.
• 16:31 – Why institutional independence matters for credibility.
• 20:32 – Timeline of persuading Dr. Zervos and eventual study leak.
• 23:26 – Bigtree reveals Zervos’ private fear over study impact.
• 36:04–37:32 – Study results revealed: higher rates of illness in vaccinated.
• 38:00 – Explanation of key statistical findings.
• 41:02 – Dr. Paul Thomas emphasizes scientific balance over dogma.
• 42:24 – Bigtree describes undercover filmmaking process.
• 48:53 – Film rollout strategy and call to action.

Call to Action & Final Reflection

Bigtree urges listeners to download and freely share "An Inconvenient Study" from anInconvenienceStudy.com to spark debate and force transparency, framing this as an unprecedented opportunity to challenge entrenched medical and institutional dogmas.

This episode blends investigative narrative, scientific claims, raw personal stories, and a rallying cry for medical freedom, delivered in a tone combining urgency, emotional intensity, and adversarial skepticism toward public health institutions and pharmaceutical companies.