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WarRoom Battleground EP 886: Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán Goes To See POTUS And German “Justice” Persecutes AfD Euro-MP
WarRoom Battleground EP 886: Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán Goes To See POTUS And German “Justice” Persecutes AfD Euro-MP...
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And where do people like that go.
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To share the big lie?
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I w that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my.
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Country, this country will be saved. War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
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Good evening, Harnwell, here at the helm on Steve Bannon's War Room. Got two very important guests for you this evening. First one, bearing in mind that the War Room is fundamentally a show geared at the rank and file, is probably someone, I'm going to say it like this, probably the most important person speaking to an American audience here, the most important person you probably never heard of. But here's what I want you to do. I want to write down the name and then you're going to discover you see this person absolutely everywhere and the organization that he runs. So same thing, might not have heard of it. Write it down and you will see it everywhere. And here's the thing. Everybody who's involved on the right with opinion formation, who goes to conferences, goes to speaking events, will know this organization. I've spoken at a couple of events in Hungary myself via the European Conservative. My guest is Professor Frank Faredi and his organization is the Matthias Corvinus Collegium. Professor Faredi, great honor to get you on the show. We've been trying for some time and folks, to give you an indication of just how important this guy is. Why don't you tell us, Professor Faredi, what you're doing in D.C. right now?
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Well, I'm here in D.C. with the delegation of Prime Minister Viktor Orban, who's having a summit meeting with President Trump. And I think this relationship is very, very important because it gives conservatism a very powerful international boost. I think that these two guys complement each other. You know, Viktor Orban, the prime minister of Hungary, is the bad boy of Europe. And President Trump is very similar to him. And some people have, in fact, Steve Bannon has called Orban Trump before Trump in a sense that they all have very similar ideas. They all have a capacity to move the the people, they're very charismatic. And in a sense, these are two of the guys that we really need. If you're going to change the world for the better, if you're going to undermine this very powerful globalist culture that dominates the, the, the world in all of its powerful institutions.
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That'S absolutely correct. And obviously there is, I mean, by the way, I'll just say that you are the emeritus professor of sociology at the University of Kent, Canterbury in England, and England is often referred to as having that special relationship with the United States. And historically that's certainly true. But you know what? I would make the argument that because of the personal charisma and loyalty that Viktor Orban showed to Donald Trump even when Donald Trump was out of power, I would make the argument that in Europe, it's actually Hungary now that deserves that title of having the special relationship. And I think you're going to increasingly see, and I say this to our American audience, who loves Viktor Orban, by the way, Maga loves Viktor Orban. I would make this argument that increasingly you are going to see now that reality of the situation become ever more clear. One of the reasons I think I do want to talk to you about the delegation and some of the objectives that the Prime Minister is seeking to promote in the next couple of days. But I think it's a sign of the MCC's importance here that you're doing something at the behest of Viktor Orban. And this is why I say, folks, that this is an incredibly important organization that you might not have heard about it. It's doing something, and it has been charged with doing something by the prime Minister that I can't see any other leader in the world on the right doing. And that's investing directly in an organization to promote the principles that will continue and endure not only amongst opinion formers today, but crucially in the next generation and the formation of the next generation. And it's absolutely incredible. And I think he's sort of giving you, the prime minister has given the McCarthy huge amounts of support, political support and obviously financial support as well. And that's another reason why, folks, you're going to see that Hungary is increasingly important, pushing above its weight as a relatively small EU country, but culturally massively, massively important. Professor Faredi, let me ask you this about the delegation here. There are a number of things that are very close here to Magus heart that I know the prime minister is going to raise with President Trump example will obviously be Ukraine. I think it's fair to say that Prime Minister Orban has probably had amongst all the EU countries, the most sane and responsible position with regards to Russia since the start of this war three and a half years ago. But the administration, the U.S. administration is going to try, as far as I can tell, to put a bit of pressure, has been doing already on, on. On the Hungarian Prime Minister to open himself towards Ukrainian accession into the European Union as part of the eventual peace talk negotiations. I have to say I am incredibly against Ukraine joining the eu. Can you tell us a little bit? I know there's also energy implications of interest to, to the Prime Minister, but can you these two things. How confident are you that the Prime Minister will be able to hold the line in negotiations with the President over Ukrainian accession to the eu? And then tell us a bit about the liquid natural gas and the whole debate seeking exemptions from, imposed by the US on the importation into the west from Russian oil, Russian gas.
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Well, everything that we are interested in is underwritten by a desire to end the war. I think the government In Hungary is 120% committed to peace in the area because they realize the longer that the war continues, the more it can spread, the more it destabilizes Europe and the more it can have very direct, destructive global implications. So that's the bottom line. In addition to that, there is the fact that Hungary alone within the European Union has come out quite often against the attempt to bring Ukraine into the European Union. Hungary believes that that would be a corrosive development. It would undermine the European Union by bringing in a country that essentially is not in a position to play the role of a democratic nation state at this particular stage in time. We believe that at the moment, Ukraine is a little bit corrupt, a little bit internally unfit to play that kind of a role. But more importantly, should Ukraine join the European Union, it would destabilize the relation between Ukraine and Russia forever. It would basically mean that the war will never stop. You could have ceasefires, but Russia will never tolerate Ukraine becoming potentially an enemy, a permanent enemy at its gate. And Hungary has realized this, which is why we've called for different kind of solutions. So that's the first thing. I think that there is absolutely no way that the Prime Minister will ever go back on this particular position. It's a position of principle in the sense that we want to make sure that peace does prevail eventually. And for that to prevail, we have to ensure that the European Union doesn't destabilize the situation by bringing Ukraine in. The second problem or Issue that will be discussed is the fact that Hungary, a landlocked small country, is totally dependent upon Russian energy. And that's been the case for a very, very long time. We've always relied on it. We have no other sources. We haven't got any access to sea. We are landlocked nation. And therefore, for Hungary to basically stop receiving energy from Russia would have a very catastrophic economic consequence. I think for that reason, the prime minister has asked or is, or is discussing with President Trump about being given, I suppose, a free pass from joining in the sanctions. Because for Hungary, if this terminates, if this deal terminates, it will have a major upheaval in terms of its economic consequences. In addition to that, there is an argument that, all right, Hungary should get liquid gas from the United States and other sources, and there's nothing wrong with liquid gas. But it just so happens that if Hungary was forced into a situation where it relied on liquid gas, basically, the cost of energy would more than double. And you can imagine what that would mean to ordinary people if their way of life sort of was so fundamentally transformed by very, very expensive energy. And I think there's going to be discussion about that, as well as to how to minimize it. But I think probably, and this is a little bit intangible, one of the most important things that will be happening in this discussion is an attempt to actually forge a relationship to a different level, to cultivate this relationship, because I think the Hungarian delegation believes that the future of Western civilization, I hate to use that word, it sounds very big, but that's really what we're talking about. The future of Western civilization at the moment pivots around this relationship that's being forged between the prime minister and President Trump. I think a lot of European conservatives are entirely on board with this thing. I know that when I left Brussels, they were all cheering on the delegation and hoping that whether you're French or Italian or German, if you're a genuine conservative, a patriot, you really want to make sure that this summit actually leads somewhere. It kind of represents a very important step into the future.
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So much to break down there. But let's start off with the closing part and work backwards regarding this relationship. There are obviously two groups in the European Parliament, and you actually see the patriot contingent in the European Parliament really divided into two. And due to his expertise, Prime Minister Viktor Orban actually sort of nudged and negotiated his faction as the larger of the two. So he has the Patriots for Europe, which is, as I say, the larger of the two groups, and then the other one the smaller one now, which is that the Georgia Maloney faction, both patriotic groups, but very different views. I think this is probably the litmus test. It's the relationship to NATO generally and the relationship to, to Ukraine in particular between these two groups. When you're saying, because you're based in Brussels, when you're saying that there are a lot of people, there are a lot of conservatives.
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I've just lost your.
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Wishing you will. Can you hear me now?
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I can hear you, yeah.
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Can you. Can you hear me?
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Yes.
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So I was talking, I was talking about these two factions in the European Parliament as the Patriot contingent, divided by two into two. When you. Between Europe, between the Patriots for Europe and the European Conservatives and Reformists, the EC group, which is Meloni's faction, the difference between these two groups is fundamentally NATO and the relationship with regards to Ukraine. When you say, Professor Faredi, that a lot of people in Brussels, where you're based, who are cheering you on, tell me something about this dynamic between these two groupings in the European Parliament and how the personal relationship between President Trump and Prime Minister Orban is, and the sort of outer dynamics, dynamics and consequences of that for these two groupings in Brussels.
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I think that the closer the relationship becomes, the more all sections of the conservative family in Europe will have to take note. I think it's very important for them. I think it's a tragedy that there's this division between the European conservative and reform group, the ECR and the Patriots, because at the end of the day, someone like Giorgio Meloni and someone like Viktor Orban have a lot in common. And they're. I know that on a person to person basis, they're very good friends, they get along with each other. But I think what has happened is that sections of the ECR have become very pragmatic, a little bit opportunistic, and basically they fear that if they stick their neck out in the way that the Hungarians have, they're going to have a big problem with the banks, with the markets, with the European Union Commission, who are going to put a lot of economic pressure upon them to fall in line. And for that reason, many of them, although they privately understand what Hungarians are doing, nevertheless are reluctant to kind of join in. As it happens, neither side is against NATO as such, but the Patriot group tends to believe that if you're going to defend your nation, you need to have a national solution to that. I think as a sovereignist, you believe in a sovereign defense force. Ultimately, to be honest, if I'm going to worry about who's going to defend my family? I'm going to rely upon my neighbors. I'm going to rely upon people that come from my own society who have got a direct stake. I know maybe Americans would help us. But why should an American soldier put his life on the line for me when in fact there is very little that he understands about my predicament? And therefore, although alliances are really very important, in the end we need to have national solutions to the problem of defense. And that's really what the Patriot group really understand, that being a patriot means being a patriot rather than a globalist when it comes to defense and all these matters.
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I couldn't agree with you more. Professor, do hold on 30 seconds. I'm going to come back to you and I want to ask you a bit about the pressures that the European Commission have been putting historically over the last few years on Hungary in order to take the Brussels line. And I think actually the Prime Minister's resilience has been nothing short of absolutely heroic and a model to be imitated. That will drill down that in 60 seconds. But first, when inflation jumps, when you hear that the national debt is over $38.3 trillion, do you ever think maybe now would be a good time to buy some gold where there's a hedge against inflation, peace of mind during global instability, or just for sensible diversification? Birch Gold Group believes every American should own physical gold. Birch Gold can help you roll an existing IRA or 401k into an IRA in gold. Birch Gold is the only precious metals company we at the War Room Trust, as do tens of of thousands of their customers. So make right now your first time to buy gold. Text Bannon B A N O N to 989-898. That's Bannon to 989898. Back now to Professor Frank Faredi, Chief Executive of the Matthias Corvinus Collegium in Brussels. Professor Faredi, I don't know how much our American audience will be drilling down on the happenings within the European European Union. But the the EU has been launching a number of legal challenges against Hungary saying that that the Prime Minister is corrupting, corrupting and politicizing the judiciary and has even put on the line.
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EU.
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Financing towards Hungary of substantial billions of dollars. The irony here is this is actually Hungary's own money which it pays into in quota to the EU and then the EU holds it back and effectively blackmails independent EU member states to follow the line. Same dynamic by the way folks, that the federal government has done with the state levels for many years in the United States. You'll be familiar with the concept. Professor, tell me a bit, because you mentioned how Prime Minister Orban has basically been standing by himself against the Ukrainian accession to the eu. Tell me a bit about the pressure that the Prime Minister has been put under, not only by Ursula von der Leyen, but by the Commission historically. And tell us something about the actual politicization that the EU is implementing on Hungary right now, because I don't think Americans are aware of this, and they need to in order to give the Prime Minister full moral support that he needs.
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Well, if you can imagine, the European Commission, which is an unelected body in charge of the European Union, has essentially declared war upon not just the Prime Minister, but Hungarian society. And the main form that this war takes is what's called lawfare. It basically uses the European courts, there's several European courts, the European Court of Human Rights and others, as a vehicle to basically try to criminalize what Hungarians are doing. So just to give you an example, the European Court of Human Rights has decided that for some reason, Hungarian government and Hungarian judiciary does not meet its criteria of the rule of law. And it's basically said that until Hungary falls in line, the judiciary falls in line with what Brussels wants to see, it will withhold essentially millions and millions and millions of euros from Hungarian society. And it's done that already because basically what they want to do is to interfere within the domestic politics of Hungary. They developed a concept which is what I call European Union conditionality. And that conditionality can take many forms. One conditionality is that the only way you're going to get money, the money that actually belongs to you, is if, for example, you accept their definition of gender ideology. It's called gender ideology. So basically, it means that if a Hungarian school or university wants to receive some funds from Brussels, they got a guarantee that they recognize trans ideology, they recognize LGBTQ rights, and they will go on and promote it. If you don't promote LGBTQ ideology, then they can withhold the money from you. And they've done that in a number of different respects. And what they are really doing in this is they're trying to directly influence domestic politics and the values that Hungarians live by. By forcing Hungarians to shift and change them and to accept their woke ideology. They also, by the way, are using loads of these NGO lobbyist organizations as a vehicle to undermine. So, for example, there's going to be a general election in Hungary in April next year, and the European Commission is totally committed towards destabilizing the government. It's completely committed towards financing the opposition and promoting dissidents within Hungary itself. And the irony is that the commission often complains about Russian intervention in domestic politics within Europe, but it has got no inhibitions about interfering in the. In the internal affairs of nations that it despises, it dislikes. So we have a very interesting development. It's a bit like, if you're an American, imagine what it was life before the American Revolution when the British tried to influence developments within America itself, and it would try to influence taxation and other policies within America. Naturally, the Americans rebelled. Naturally, America became independent by rejecting this. Well, I see Brussels as this colonial project, a federalist colonial project that tries to force countries, particularly Central and East European countries, that have strong conservative values, tries to make sure that these nations become the mirror image of the more woke Scandinavian, Northern European societies and give up their commitment to religion, give up their commitment to conservatism, the traditional way of life. And they're doing this primarily by insisting that the courts adopt new laws, that we adopt their values. It's really all about the culture wars. I mean, that's really what we're talking about in this struggle between the EU and Hungary.
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You mentioned culture wars, which I know we've only got a couple of minutes left now. You mentioned the culture wars. That sparks a question that I do really want to ask you while I have this opportunity. However, I just want to summarize what you're just saying or add to what you've just been saying. I want our audience here to understand just how not isolated, in a negative sense, how little political support Viktor Orban has had in order to defend the integrity of Hungary as a nation, as a people, as an identity within the wider oppression of the European Union, especially with regards to Ukraine accession. And the Prime Minister has faced down all of these other European leaders are far more politically, militarily, economically, more important countries than Hungary. He's faced them all down. So what have they done now in order to try and blab, eat him? They've gone to someone and they ran to someone in order to persuade him to put a bit of pressure on, and that person is Donald Trump. What I would actually like to see out of this summit in D.C. today is actually the reverse. I would actually like to see Prime Minister Orban persuading President Trump to go back to Brussels, speak to Ursula von der Leyer and all the rest of them and tell them what his position is going to be, that they have to accommodate, not putting pressure on someone like Viktor Orban. Look, I could go on, but we've got sort of, as I say, two minutes left, and I do, because you are a thinker and, let's say, a philosopher, even as a sociologist in your own right, there is this idea that you've been pushing about. Can you synthesize it in two minutes? Perhaps come back on the show at another time? You've basically said, seeing as you were talking about culture wars, but in a separate context, that much of what passes for culture wars today don't really have anything to do with the present, but they're there debates and sort of tensions over the past. Could you just give me, like, 90 seconds to expand what that thesis is?
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So what I argue is that we think of culture wars as well as being gender ideology and LGBTQ and Black Lives Matter, and it is about that. But ultimately, it's about society's relation to its past, because what these people who hate our way of life are trying to do is to render our past toxic. They're basically saying that everything that happened in the United States or in Britain in the 19th, 20th century is horrible. We are horrible people. We enslave people, we exploit people, and there's nothing redeeming about our way of life. This is really important because what they're doing is they're trying to educate the younger generations, schools and universities, to regard their own society with hostility, to regard their own society as really entirely negative. And if they can capture it, they can continue this with their young, then basically what they've done is they've enslaved their minds and made them their own vehicles for promoting that particular worldview. And the way that I look at it is that in Europe in particular, but I also think in the United States, we now lost three generations of young people to the culture warriors who dominate our schools and universities. And we need to wake up and realize that the real struggle is for the minds of the young rather than anything else.
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Professor Faredi, we'll close it there. I do hope you'll come back on the show perhaps in the next couple of weeks and tell us how the delegation, the Prime Minister's Hungarian delegation to D.C. has gone. I very much hope that you're successful. I know you have an article out in the European Conservative published a few hours ago about this visit. Where do people go on social media generally to keep up with what you're doing, your output? And also just an institution I cannot compliment more highly the Matthias Corvinus Collegium. Where do people go to know more about you?
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Well, I think there is first of all my own personal soft bag which is called Roots and Wings with Frank Reddy. And that I think is where I usually express my latest music. And we also have YouTube channel both mine and also McClossy which I think that you might find interesting and do follow our Twitter accounts.
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We'll get those social media out later. Professor Faredi, thank you so much and I wish you all the best in Washington D.C. right now.
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Welcome back. My next guest was the the guy you just saw speaking there, Peter Beistran, Member of the European Parliament. Peter, thanks for coming back on the show. You last came on the show when Steve was at was at the Danbury Spa, if memory serves me. Correct me. Thanks for coming back. You're live, obviously at the studio.
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Thank you. Thank you to invite me and it's a great pleasure and honor to be in War Room.
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Again, of course, I think you're there live at the studios in the European Parliament in Brussels. Now, why did we start with that video clip? Fairly nondescript. They were speaking in Germany. Why were. Why did we throw that up as a German political speech? What was it about that? Did folks, did you see anything in that? Folks, did you notice anything though? Peter Bystran? Apparently, according to the courts in Germany, I didn't see it. You just seen. You saw exactly the same footage that I've just seen. Peter Byrstrand was received a fine of €11,000, like $13,000 for that speech.
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Why?
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Because according to the courts, he gave a Nazi salute. I didn't see it. We can call it again. Peter, why don't you tell us the background and what happened and say what really is behind this court judgment?
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Look, Ben, this is a funny story because nobody saw the Nazi salute at this occasion. When I was speaking, it was in Munich. It was Corona time, you know. So I was just talking about the general policy and the moment when I said, we are the only democratic party in Germany, we are the true democrats. I somehow waved with the hand and nobody noticed anything. But later, some antifa people made the freeze of the video. And in one moment, I have my. My arm higher than my shoulder. And they said, this is a Nazi salute. He was doing a Nazi salute. And they tried to fine me. That was the occasion. I have to correct you, I didn't got defined for this. But when this happened, I defended myself, showing pictures of all other politicians like Angela Merkel and Martin Schulz and even Michelle Obama. And I showed all those pictures and I said, you listen, you can do a picture of anybody in the world if you make the freeze in the right moment. It looks like a Nazi salute, but it isn't, you know. And I was successful. And the court said, yes, that's true, especially by a picture of Angela Merkel. And they said, yes, this is obvious that it looks like a Nazi salute, but it is not a Nazi salute because this is Anglo American and obviously she's just weaving and I want it. But then, and two years later, I published a collage, a Meme on Aix, which included exactly the picture of Angela Merkel weaving. And that time the court said, oh, Peter Bison is showing that this is a Nazi salute now. And they fined me €11,000 230 for this. That was the fine.
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Okay, so we've got some of the illustrations here. This is what you tweeted out. Yeah, thanks very much, Denver.
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The pictures you see, Angela Merkel, you see Olaf Scholz, the Chancellor, Martin Scholz, the President of European Parliament. And on the right side, this is the former President of Germany and his wife. So all those politicians, very well known and all looking like doing Nazi salute. And I put this in the collage and the court said, well, this is illegal, this is, this is a Nazi salute now. And they find me.
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Okay, so let me get this right, let me get this right. So you gave that salute. Excuse me, you gave that hand gesticulation in your speech, which everyone said was a Nazi salute, right? You went to court, you won that. They said, there's no Nazi salute there because you showed them the photos of similar politicians. You won that case. You won that case. So then two years later, the whole debate kicked up again and you tweeted out on social media, Angela Merkel and Martin Schultz and Olaf Schultz, not in the former President of the German Republic, all making the same wave to the, these are the, these are thousand percent mainstream center ground politicians, folks, right? None of these people were ever dragged in. Angela Merkel was never dragged into court for giving the Nazi salute. You put out on social media, her doing that, that, that wave. And the courts have said, in order to suppress you and to find you, they said, here, here, this is a Nazi salute. It's Angela Merkel doing a Nazi salute. And therefore let's find Peter Bystrand. Is that right? Is that a correct analysis? Instead of, instead of saying, instead of saying, hang on, we better drag into court Angela Merkel and Martin Schultz and Olaf Scholz and the German, the President of the German Republic for doing Nazi salutes. Nothing. They find you for publishing these waves as Nazi salutes. Is that correct?
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More than this. This is absolutely correct. But this is more funny because this was like Peter Bryson is weaving, you know, oh, this is a Nazi salute. Then I defended myself with the picture of Angela Merkel and they said, okay, Angela Merkel weaving, it's not a Nazi salute. And then when I used the picture of Angela Merkel, the court explicitly said, now Berstrand is using the picture of Angela Merkel now it's a Nazi salute. And I was fined €11,000 for that. And you know the incredible thing to make it more, more funny during the process with me, because it was public, you know, and it was the same time the picture of Angela Merkel was online in the media. Around 1,000 people wrote to the prosecutor and they all wrote like, you are prosecuting Peter Bison now you should prosecute also Angela Merkel because look, she's Doing also Nazi salute to prosecute her. And the authorities said 1,000 times, they said, no, no, no, no, no, we are not going to prosecute Angela Merkel because this is no Nazi salute. So Anglo America doing weaving. No Nazi salute. Peter Bisson using the picture of Anglo America, it's a Nazi salute. 11,000 Euro. Fine, that's the case.
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So it becomes a wave, becomes a Nazi salute. When Peter Beistrand puts it on social.
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Media, to be specific, to be correct, it became a Nazi salute immediately after I was elected to our federal list as a candidate for the European Parliament, number two. So they just looked for something negative to be able to spread it within the media. During the campaign for the European Parliament, it was a very clear blackmailing action against us. Top candidates dates on this list.
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B
And just to be clear here, the real point behind this is that, you know, during, I think the, the pandemic, the COVID crisis, the AfD was one of the principal parties against the lockdowns and forced vaccines which the German state obviously sort of imposed on all of its citizens, as they did pretty much everywhere else around the world. So the context here, here's the court space. And you were saying when you gave that wave, you were actually sort of saying that you guys weren't the AfD, isn't, aren't the Nazis. Right. So here's the irony of the situation. You are democratically elected politicians. You are a democratically elected member of the European Parliament. The courts are coming down punishing you. They're using the state power to punish dissent in the name of being anti fascist and anti Nazi. Right. And they're punishing the only political party in Germany that was against the, you know, what one might reasonably call the fascist regime of the anti anti pandemic era. That's pretty ironic, I would suggest.
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D
Yeah. Ben, you're saying, I don't know. And this was exactly what was what I was talking about at this demonstration. I was criticizing the measurements of the government that time. I was claiming that they are anti constitutional. You know, they were. And in this context, I said, and we, the AfD, we are the only party fighting against this and we are the only Democratic party. And it remains still today, we are truly democratic party. And what the government is using against us and against the opposition as a whole is systematically blackmail us as a far right, as extremists, fascists and so on, you know, with everything from the US Because Trump was treated by the globalist the same way. So it's not only about me. We have other cases And I would specifically point out the case of director of Deutschlandkuri, which is very well known online newspaper, David Bendels. They published a meme with the picture of the interior minister and the interior minister was holding a piece of paper in her hands saying I hate the freedom of speech, which you may find funny or not. But I mean this is nothing which would be prohibited in Germany. You can of course criticize the interior minister in this way. It's very soft way, I think. But they put him into court and this editor in chief of a newspaper got seven month sentence for publishing this meme. And this is incredible.
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B
Peter Standby. I'm going to do a couple of ad reads for our sponsors of the show. When we come back in 45 seconds, we have to have the photos of the, of the case that you're referring to the seven month sentence. And I'm also going to ask, you know, I'm also going to ask for the, for the, for the photo of the German politician who since birth doesn't have a right hand and yet he too absolutely armless, was punished for giving a Nazi salute without an arm. We'll have further details on that. Just give me 45 seconds, folks. Let's talk first to my Patriot supply. They've got a Black Friday survival special order, a four week emergency food supply that will give you $160 off. That's down from the original price of $418 down to this new special price, $257. And you get $150 worth of free survival gear in addition to that. That's my Patriotsupply.com Bannon that's where you need to go to my Patriotsupply.com Bannon and look up their Black Friday survival special. And of course, our friends at Tax Network USA, go to tnusa.com again bannon tnusa.com bannon or just call 1-800-958-1000. That's 1-800-958- 1000 and get your free consultation back to Peter Bystrand. So let's, let's pull up these photos of the, of the guy with the, without the, the right arm and you can just talk us through that, which is absolutely astonishing. I've never heard anything so ridiculous in all my life. And in the minutes that we have remaining on this show, I'd like you just to tell our audience some of the personal persecutions that you yourself have undergone. This is, I think, when you were still a member of parliament in the German national Parliament how many times your home has been raided? So tell us about the German, the guy without the right arm and what, what happened to him.
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D
Ben, you picked up a perfect example. I hope you can show the pictures. It's my colleague from the AfD, Dr. Fichtner, who was in the state parliament of Baden Wittenberg and he has no right arm. And he was fined for different accusations like he was doing the Nazi salute. In total he got 72,000 EU fine. And I think three court decisions, one was for this, and this is really incredible. He was again criticizing the measurements of the government. You name it. You said those were fascist measurements. They were all anti constitutional. He was criticizing it heavily during the corona time and he was fined in three different cases in total more than €77,70,000. It's, it's really incredible.
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B
Let's just, let's just do that again. Right, there's the photo folks. You can see the photo. So this is the, this is the courts in Germany protecting democracy, protecting the constitution, now protecting the rule of law from the evil AfD. Here is a guy that they gave a 72,000$72,000 Euro fine for. I guess that's around what, a little less than $80,000. Doesn't have a right arm, hasn't had one since birth because of a birth defect. And what the courts have said, well, okay, so if he, he didn't have, he doesn't have a right arm, but if he did, he'd clearly be doing a Nazi salute.
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C
That.
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B
It sounds ridiculous. It sounds so surreal to say this, but that's where we are right now in Germany today. Not only in Germany, it's almost, it's ridiculous. It's equally ridiculous. In the uk, Peter, we had a lady who was prisoned, imprisoned for 30 months because of a tweet that she sent out. This is what the regime around the world is doing in the name of defending democracy and the rule of law. Tell us a bit, Peter, whilst you're here. We've only got three minutes left. Tell us a bit about what you, as a sitting member of parliament in the, the Bunda stuff. Tell us about what you personally have suffered in your own home.
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D
Well, I have now personally 27 home searchings. The police raided not only my house, but my offices in Munich, in Berlin, in the Bundesag, then the offices of my lawyer, of my tax advisor. At the end, I would say everybody who ever shake my hand got the home searching, you know. So we are now at the number 27. This prosecution lasts more than one year. Still nothing fond from the original accusations. So this is, this is just a pure terror, you know, political immunity. I want you to repeat three times. Yeah.
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B
And I need you to repeat this right, As a sitting member of Parliament.
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D
Right.
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B
As a sitting member of parliament in Berlin, in the Bundestag, now in the European Parliament.
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D
Yeah.
- [48:39]
B
And also. And also now as a member of the European Parliament, where you actually have immunity.
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C
Right.
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B
You have. Your home has been officially broken into by the police 27 times. Tell me, are you intimidated by this? Did you ever think, you know, perhaps I should just calm down? Perhaps I should just say what the regime wants me to send wants me to say. Do you ever think, is it worth it or does it actually make you go in the direction I am going to fight these people until we win?
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D
Sure. But everybody is saying the same to whom happens something like this. The people saying, okay, now is the point to strike back and we will defend ourselves. We are looking for allies. Trump is a very strong ally. It's not only me. You know, there are thousands and thousands people in Germany. They got home searching. You know, just give you just some examples. You know, there was a woman posting something on Facebook. Not even she didn't produce the meme, she was just reposting. And the major of Berlin advised the police to find out the true identity of this woman. It took some more than 400 hours of police work to find out who is behind this Facebook account. And then they rided her home for nothing. You know, afterwards the court declared it illegal, this home searching. But it was even in my case. I already sued the state of Bavaria for doing the home searchings. I won the first case. They said it was illegal. But the state is doing it again and again in spite of knowing that this is illegal. And they are not doing just the home searches. Imagine what the leader of demonstration, the organizer of the demonstration against the Corona, Michael Balwek, was put into prison for nine months. The guy was sitting in prison nine months with there was no trial. They put him in prison for nine months. And they said, yeah, he committed some tax fraud. At the end he was released. And it come out that the state is owing him money. So the state should pay him back taxes. €200,000 in taxes back. So he was completely innocent.
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B
Pete, you're gonna have to come back on Peter, we need to dig into this more very, very quickly. Where do people go on social media to keep up with your work?
- [51:31]
D
Oh, I am everywhere on X on Facebook. I have a website. Peter Bison. So you just Google Peter Bison you will find thousands of article which are very negative about me. But you can find also my account and you are highly welcome to comment.
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A
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