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Michael Caine
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Steve Bannon
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Mary Holland
History doesn't wait. This is our moment to rise, unite and reclaim our children's health. Join us here in Austin, Texas this November at the Children's Health Defence Conference. In the wake of unprecedented medical overreach and censorship, the world is waking up and people like you are leading the way.
Stephanie Lucreccio
We're at a turning point in history. With the pandemic behind us, our fight for freedom and health has reached the global stage.
Mary Holland
This is our moment of truth and we're ready to seize it together.
Michael Caine
And Children's Health defense has been at the forefront of this charge. Our 2025 conference brings together the leaders.
Steve Bannon
Visionaries and warriors who made it happen.
Mary Holland
Meet the parents whose lives were forever changed and hear from doctors who risked everything to speak out. Stand with those who refuse to be silen.
Stephanie Lucreccio
You are going to hear from world renowned speakers, doctors and frontline leaders driving the medical freedom movement.
Mary Holland
Discover real world solutions grounded in science, integrity and human rights. Join the discussion to talk about vaccines, informed consent, parental rights and so much more. And you'll of course hear from your favorite CHD personalities sharing the latest on CHD's research, litigation and outreach.
Stephanie Lucreccio
And while you're there, soak up the energy, culture and music of beautiful Austin, Texas.
Michael Caine
Whether you're a parent, a practitioner, or a medical freedom advocate, this is your call to action. To protect what matters most.
Stephanie Lucreccio
Be part of the movement that is rewriting the story for generations to come.
Mary Holland
So please, join us.
Stephanie Lucreccio
Join us.
Mary Holland
Join us. Let's make history together in Austin.
Claire Dooley
Good evening. Thank you for joining us. My name is Claire Dooley. I'm live from the Children's Health Defense Conference in Austin, Texas called Moment of Truth. You just watched the promo for this conference. I'm joined by a couple wonderful ladies, but before we cut to them, I wanted to talk a Little bit about what's the latest news in maha. So Maha Action, who I am actually on one of the committees for, has something called the MAHA Report. So there is a separate Maha Report for the White House, but the Maha Report for MAHA Action, it's released every day, multiple times a day, different articles are released, and it's highly educational. I wanted to talk about this one, about the Rural Health Transformation Program, which is the rhtp. So I actually personally know the team that was behind this with the strategic initiatives at MAHA Action. So this was under the one big beautiful bill Act. And basically what it's doing is giving $50 billion over five years, which is one of the largest federal investments in rural health care. So while we have Democrats holding the government shutdown as ransom to help make health care better, MAHA is making health care better in rural America, which affects my kind of people. I'm from rural Mississippi. The health care there is really horrendous. I mean, I remember as a child being or as an adult as well, I would not want to go to a hospital in rural Mississippi versus the experience that I had in the hospital in the D.C. area was a completely different experience. So I'm really excited about this. Part of that $50 billion, which the different states could apply to was to improve the hospitals in the rural areas. But there was also a provision to have a diabetes reversal diet. Right. Like, diabetes is a huge issue United States. So I'm excited to see that it affects many people and to then start addressing diabetes first with diet versus just putting them on some insulin, which then can be. The prices of insulin have been jacked up in the past. You know, we've seen that happen. So I'm really excited about, you know, addressing diet firsthand. Other things like dialysis and home, I mean, that's going to be really great for a lot of people. And SNAP App, this new Snap app that will reduce food waste and hopefully help our supply chains and, you know, keep good, healthy food in the grocery stores and help SNAP participants. So this is a really good update. I'm really proud to be a part of MAHA Action and have participated in this. And shout out to Lee Marinoff, who's been flying around the country, meeting with governors, getting stuff done. So right now I'm joined by Mary Holland, president of Children's Health Defense, and Stephanie Lucreccio. Mary and Stephanie, thank you for joining me.
Mary Holland
Thanks for having us.
Stephanie Lucreccio
So excited to be here.
Claire Dooley
Stephanie, what's your official title?
Stephanie Lucreccio
What do I call you? I'm the Senior Advocacy Manager oh, okay.
Claire Dooley
So basically Stephanie's put on the whole conference.
Stephanie Lucreccio
I've been busy.
Claire Dooley
Right, right. Right. Before we get started talking about the conference and all the awesome things we're going to learn this week, I actually wanted to talk about what can we do, how do we mobilize, how do we get stuff done? You know, we're in the midst of this government shutdown and you know, this new governor of New York, mayor of New York, we've been talking about this. So what can people do to get involved maybe in CHG chapters, advocacy? I mean, I would love to start with you, Mary, and what you think.
Mary Holland
People can do so much that people can do. Right. So this is not a movement for people to sit back and watch other people. This is what every single person can do. So one thing you can do is just make sure that you're getting accurate information. Children's Health Defense puts out a free newsletter every day. Defender subscribe. It will educate you. You can send it to other. It's truthful information. Everything is well sourced. Truly, there's no better source of information about the health freedom movement.
Claire Dooley
I'm going to jump in there, Mary. One thing that I think a lot of the posse will understand or be more passionate about is a lot of people don't know that there are aborted fetal tissues in some vaccines.
Mary Holland
There are. Well, the aborted fetal cell lines are used in many vaccines, including the COVID shots, but also mmr, several, hepatitis A.
Claire Dooley
And I actually was learning more about this recently because of the Defender. An article was posted, I think through the Canada chapter on aborted fetal tissues. So I think that, you know, for me, learning about that this weekend is going to be very important because it is going to discuss some of those issues. But continue on. Mary, how can you. Yeah, so just.
Mary Holland
I'm just starting with CHC so you can follow us on social media. That's another source of information. You can follow us streaming CHD TV every day, 10am Eastern. We go out with a new show, there's free movies. There's so much information on the website. The website is a wealth of information, but that's all sort of, you know, on a screen. What's more immediate is what we do with our chapters. And our chapters are in many different states. We have affiliate health freedom organizations around the country in many parts of the world. Join. It's. You get ideas, you get fellowship, you get creative, you do things. And that can include everything from a potluck dinner to going and legislating with other people at your State capitol, going to meet with the new mayors. What is your position on health freedom? Going as a delegation to go meet your representatives in Washington. Those are all the kinds of things that people do at the grassroots level. And Stephanie can talk more about that because she works a lot with the chapters. But as an organization, we want to give you the information that you need, the science. And then we're also involved in litigation. A lot of times it's people in our orbit. It's people who are members of the chapters who serve as the plaintiffs in the cases that we bring to end medical mandates to. To end the epidemic of chronic childhood disease. So there's so many different ways. Everybody has different skill sets, Right. If you're a computer person, great. If you're a singer, great. If you're an artist, great. There's a million different ways to get involved. And we want to tap people's talents, that's for sure.
Claire Dooley
Absolutely. Yeah. We actually just had on Del Bigtree, who was talking about his organization icann. And at ICANN in my hometown or in my home state in Mississippi, in the courts, we were actually able to get get back our religious exemptions that were gone for over 30 years using plaintiffs that were found through the local groups there. Mary, are there any particular instances you want to talk about or share where, you know, you've seen people in the CHD groups who are able to make a big difference?
Mary Holland
Oh my gosh. So, yeah. So one of the really exciting things tomorrow we have a panel about legislative and legal change. And one is a case brought by a 16 year old girl and her mom and she had a medical exemption. She'd already been injured by vaccines in New York State on Long island, and the school district wouldn't let her in the Oceanside School District. And so what she did was to bring a lawsuit against the school district and she won. And we had 300 people in New York from the CHT chapter and around there with her to give her moral support. And they won a preliminary injunction. And there's now two other children, an 11 year old and a 17 year old, forcing their school districts to comply with the law. Because the law in New York state now and the Second Circuit, which also covers Connecticut and Vermont, the law is if your doctor gives you a medical exemption, that's the end of the story. The school district doesn't get to second guess that, but that's what they're still doing in New York State, which is illegal. So that's. As a 16 year old, I wanted.
Claire Dooley
To know, I Want to kind of talk to our guests. What is the difference between a medical exemption versus a religious exemption or philosophical? Just real quick.
Mary Holland
Sure, real quick. Medical exemption means you can't take a vaccine because it's contraindicated. Medically. Religious exemption means you don't agree with it. It contra chains your religion. Philosophical means you don't have to explain anything to anybody. You just say no, and that's respected. A minority of states have that. I think 18. Right now, religious is 45 states. Medical exemptions should be 50 states. But there are some states, sadly, my state, including New York, that basically have been rejecting medical exemptions in part by going after the doctors who grant them.
Claire Dooley
Absolutely. And, Stephanie, where are you coming to us from? You live in New Jersey?
Stephanie Lucreccio
I live in New Jersey, yeah. I'm. I like to call it a refugee from New York because I left prior to the religious exemption being taken away. And I think it speaks to the importance of having that, because medical exemptions, while they're available, they're really not a viable exemption because so many doctors are afraid to write them, number one. And number two, it's something that you have to revisit every year with your doctor. And if you can prove that you were injured by a specific vaccine, you will get an exemption to that vaccine, but it doesn't necessarily preclude you from the rest of the schedule. So it's a really awful thing for people in New York who are forced, if they want their child to attend public school, or any school for that matter, they are forcibly having to take these vaccines. Whether or not they believe in them, they want them, they are good for their children. I mean, so many children have siblings who were injured and are still in a situation where they're.
Mary Holland
What.
Claire Dooley
Tell me about the injuries. What kind of injuries are we talking about here?
Stephanie Lucreccio
Everything and anything you can imagine. I mean, the sad thing is that many of the injuries have been normalized. So, you know, if you think about autism, adhd, food allergies, I mean, back in the day when I went to school, you never heard of all the allergies. I mean, there are children who have airborne peanut allergies that cannot be in a classroom where peanut butter, any peanut products are served. This is not normal. This is not something that should be afflicting our children. But the truth is, if you read the package inserts and you actually had informed consent, many of the things that we're seeing, chronic illnesses in our children are right there on the package inserts. But sadly, we're not being given informed consent by our physicians, and you don't have the option to look at it and say, you know what? The benefits don't. They don't outweigh the risk. So I'm going to opt out of this vaccine. And oftentimes these little reactions are ignored until a catastrophic injury happens, because it's the cumulative effects over time. I saw it with my own son, and I stopped before the catastrophic injury happened, thankfully.
Claire Dooley
Yeah. I think when you talk about the package insert for the viewers who don't know, that means whenever you get the vaccine in the mail, the doctor gets the vaccine in the mail, in the box that's the manufacturer's insert that lists, you know, all the contraindications, all the side effects. So when we talk about these side effects and we say, hey, you know, the MMR can cause a seizure or encephalitis, which is brain inflammation, we're not just making that up. The manufacturers actually tell us that this can happen. But when you go to the doctor, they tell you that it can't happen. It's one in a million. And so this is why a religious exemption is important, because if you see your child have an injury, like, say, for example, in one of my documentaries called the Smooth Stone, it's about how we got our religious exemptions. Back in Mississippi, one of the moms in the documentary talks about how she saw her son have three seizures following a vaccine, went to go get a medical exemption, and they denied her in Mississippi for that medical exemption. So where medical exemptions fail, religious exemptions are absolutely mandatory. We have five states that don't have religious exemptions still. Right.
Mary Holland
New York, California, Connecticut, Maine, and West Virginia is kind of half, four and a half. And sadly, you know, there is a. The four main ones are blue states. And sadly, the Democratic Party has really been opposed to religious exemptions. Hawaii, New Jersey, Virginia, Massachusetts are now really in the crosshairs. And it is critical to keep religious exemptions so that children don't have to be exposed to these toxic products that genuinely are against many, many people's religious convictions, that your body's a temple and it's from God and it shouldn't be defiled, especially by something that literally has no scientific basis.
Claire Dooley
Yes, absolutely. There was kind of what we call like the grand battle a couple years back in New Jersey. Was it? So for the viewers who don't know, the New Jersey legislature was going to pass a bill or an act that was trying to take away religious exemptions. Tell us about it.
Stephanie Lucreccio
So when I moved from New York to New Jersey. I literally unpacked my boxes trying to escape from the religious exemption removal in New York, and within months was presented with the same exact bill that threatened to remove our religious exemption in New Jersey. And what we did in New Jersey has been unprecedented so far. The way that we pulled together as a state and put their feet to the fire, I mean, I remember being inside of that chamber and listening to the screams of parents. I mean, you're talking December, January and New Jersey. It is no joke weather wise. You had women breastfeeding their children outside in freezing cold temperatures for hours on end, days on end, showing up by the thousands in the middle of the week. We had medical freedom advocates sending us pizza from California. Like by the last day that we were there, we literally had created a medical freedom village. We had like a breastfeeding trailer. People were bringing all kinds. I mean, it was absolutely remarkable and I think it's a true illustration and testament to what happens when parents are activated. Because for many years, I believed in choice. I believed in being able to decide what goes in my son's body. But we were always told this was a conversation that you didn't have. You kept it quiet, you advocated privately. You didn't have these conversations out loud. And when this happened in New Jersey, it was that moment where it's like, okay, this is no longer a quiet matter. This is a matter where we need to scream from the rooftops and fight for our lives. Because we watched it happen in California, we watched it happen in New York. We've seen the Playbook over and over again. And I think that the big thing that needs to happen continually in these states that we talked about that are now under fire, parents, practitioners, advocates, we need to be in those legislative offices. We need to be advocating for what it is that we want for our children. We are the gatekeepers, we are the advocates. We are the voices for the voiceless. Children cannot speak. They cannot tell you what is happening in their body. You hear all these stories of children going to the pediatrician for their well visits and coming out unwell, screaming mercifully for like hours and hours on end, sometimes not waking up after these appointments. We have to stand together to ensure that our exemptions, our rights, our bodies are honored because like Mary said, they are our temples. And it's our job as parents to protect our children from harm.
Claire Dooley
Absolutely, Absolutely, Stephanie, that was really beautifully said. In the last segment, you guys, we talked a bit about the Vaxxed movie and how it impacted, you know, the United States but also me. You know, I got involved as a young person after watching that documentary. I think it's super impactful. I think everyone should watch it at some point. But after I watched Vax and worked on the second Vax film, the second Vax film, I kind of needed somewhere to go with my energy. I didn't know what else to do, what else could be done. And that's when I got connected with Children's Health Defense for actually a different position. We were talking about a different job, but I ended up actually working with Mary Holland on a documentary about infertility in Africa. I was actually thinking we could play that trailer for a good bit and then discuss it for a little bit after. That's clip four. And yeah, we can talk about it after. Humans across the globe are becoming increasingly less fertile. The worldwide fertility rate dropped by nearly 60%.
Mary Holland
What's happening here? Infertility is one of the major problems in gynecology in Africa. Currently.
Claire Dooley
We have a tetanus campaign.
Mary Holland
We are targeting girls, basically the childbearing age. The Catholic Doctors association was able to.
Steve Bannon
Collect samples during the vaccination exercise.
Claire Dooley
They did not expect that these samples.
Mary Holland
Would actually be tested.
Claire Dooley
Somebody actually had something big to hide.
Michael Caine
The lab that they purported to have tested with the vaccine has actually confirmed to me that no such a thing ever happened.
Steve Bannon
No laboratory ever tested the vaccine.
Mary Holland
That is not correct. Which leads us to a disturbing turn of events.
Claire Dooley
If you do not stop World Health Organization, when they are through with Africa.
Michael Caine
They are coming for you.
Mary Holland
I am not saying that if you take these vaccines it will cause infertility.
Steve Bannon
But I will say that none of.
Michael Caine
The manufacturers should give you any assurances.
Steve Bannon
Whatsoever that it won't.
Stephanie Lucreccio
Be.
Claire Dooley
So this is a documentary that I produced with Mary Holland and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. We actually, I think one day Mary was given a call by an undercover documentarian who had traveled to Kenya and filmed doctors underground saying that they had tested the neonatal tetanus vaccine that they were giving to women of reproductive age in Africa and they found an anti fertility agent in it, which is. That's a pretty bold accusation. I mean, you're saying that the World Health Organization is sterilizing women. So Mary Holland came to me, said that we want someone to edit this. And that was the beginning of that journey. Mary, do you want to talk a little bit about the film or infertility?
Mary Holland
Yeah, it's a great film. Truly a diabolical agenda. And it's on CHD tv. It's under the movie section. It's Free. It's half an hour. And what it shows is direct footage that you did a beautiful job on, Claire. Andy Wakefield also directed this film. It's footage of a program that the World Health Organization implemented based on UN scientists work to cause infertility in childbearing aged women. And it's very clear that these neonatal tetanus shots were designed to cause infertility with an ingredient called hcg. And it would cause miscarriages and for women to become infertile. This is a crime against humanity, there is no question about it. And the film really shows us that the un, with funding from the United States, had done this research to create vaccines that would cause infertility. And we have to understand that there are very powerful forces in the world, not only that are seeking centralized global government, but that also are seeking lower population. And there's a very important memo that's called the Kissinger memo from the 1970s where he explicitly says, we need to reduce the global population in the developing world. And so these types of neonatal tetanus shots were not only rolled out in Kenya, where there was a pretty strong opposition, particularly from Catholic physicians, but also they were rolled out in other developing countries around the world, in Asia and Latin America. So this is, you know, this is unacceptable. To forcibly sterilize people deceptively and to have it done, be done through the World Health Organization based on work from the UN is to me truly appalling. So it's a very powerful film. I highly recommend it.
Claire Dooley
I think when we were working on it, it really kind of disillusioned me in many ways. I mean, this film is. I can't believe that it's true. I wish that it was not true that, you know, we found an anti fertility agent and certain vaccines in Kenya. And those same programs and vaccines and manufacturers that we tracked with their batch and lot numbers were being used in many other third world countries. But this is a particular case where, you know, it was thought to have happened that the World Health Organization was sterilizing women. It was tested, it was confirmed and we knew it was happening. What about all the other shots where it is causing infertility? But many women are silenced. Stephanie, I think you had a story that you wanted to share with us.
Stephanie Lucreccio
So when I was seven months pregnant with my son, it was during the swine flu, one of those flus at the time, and doctors, family members were saying, you need to take this flu shot because I had had a miscarriage prior to my son. And they used that as a fear tactic to say, you could potentially lose this baby. So I did it. And I had five miscarriages after my son was born. I could never have a second, despite how hard I tried. And going through that process of getting pregnant, losing pregnancies, getting pregnant, losing pregnancies, it did something to me that I can never fully explain. And there's always going to be a void in my heart with that. I think for many women, they don't connect the dots because I went to reproductive endocrinologists, and they were all miffed. How did you have a baby naturally? You had to have ivf. There had to be some intervention. No, I did not. There were no interventions. I finally connected the dots during the COVID pandemic because my husband came home saying that he needed to be vaccinated to go back to work. He's like, I'm not doing it. We got so sick last time we got flu shots. And I was like, like, when did we get flu shots? He said, when you were pregnant with Lewis. And I had completely forgotten about it. And in that moment, it all came flooding back to me, and I'm like, oh, my God. All this time, this is what it was. And my heart breaks for so many women because they are sterilizing this generation of women. I mean, the infertility rates that we're seeing now are skyrocketing. And I know from personal experience how awful it is. So I feel for these women that are going through this.
Mary Holland
I just want to add, you know, I wrote a book about the HPV vaccine, human papillomavirus vaccine, and that one absolutely is causing infertility in some women. And, you know, we just published a piece in Defender this past week. The male sperm counts are down 50% in 40 years. So there's absolutely factors that are creating infertility worldwide.
Claire Dooley
I totally agree, and thank you. Thank you so much, Stephanie, for sharing your stories. You know, when we traveled the country with Polytami, interviewing people about their stories of vaccine injuries, that was something that was commonly shared, that a lot of women experienced miscarriage while pregnant and when they were vaccinated and then subsequently could not carry future pregnancies. But there's hope, obviously. That's why we're here. Also on the bus, after we heard stories of people who had those experiences, they went on to address their health issues with diet, lifestyle, nutrition. Not that I'm advocating for any certain medical treatments, but different detoxes and things, and were later able to go on to conceive. So that was also an experience that was shared with some of the women in Kenya. You know, they talked about their. We interviewed some of the women who were sterilized there and it was a similar, a similar experience. I'm gonna have you guys stick around for a little bit. When we come back from the break, we'll talk for a bit, learn more about where we can find everything from you. And yeah, you guys stick around. We're live from the Children's Health Defense conference which is going to be going on all weekend. We're going to have, have lots of big hitters. Latipo is confirmed for Sunday. We're gonna have Ron Johnson at the conference. I mean a couple other people. Who else are we going to have?
Mary Holland
Mary Suzanne Humphries, Peter McCullough. I mean the list goes on and on.
Claire Dooley
It goes on. Thanks so much you guys. We'll see you in a second.
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Claire Dooley
Good evening. I'm Claire Dooley. I'm a documentary filmmaker. I am at the Children's Health Defense Conference in Austin, Texas. I'm joined by Mary Holland, president of Children's Health Defense, and Stephanie Lucreccio. We're going to say goodbye to these wonderful ladies. But before we do, I wanted to ask you, Mary, a little bit more about some of the stuff we were discussing about the conference, how people can.
Mary Holland
Learn how to watch it. So it's not too late to sign up and have access not only live tomorrow and Sunday, when we will have an incredible lineup of speakers, but you can then save that so you don't have to watch it live, but you can order it now for $77 on our website. So you go to childrenshealthdefense.org and then click on register for the conference, and you can register for one pass to get the live streaming and everything. Do you want me to talk about how to support chd?
Claire Dooley
Yeah, yeah.
Mary Holland
And so. So the other thing I want to mention is we only survive because of support from the people who find our. Our information and our litigation and science valuable. And you can text 55444 and then you write CHD. And that will allow you to go to our donation page, or you can go to the donation page on the CHD website. And we're incredibly grateful for any and all support. And you can sign up right now for something called the Insider program, which is either a $10 donation every month, or I think, 150 for the year. And when you do that, you get a lot of really cool premium content. So we have monthly sort of Insider meetings. You can save the stories from Defender, you can save the CHD TV shows so that you have, like, your own private folder.
Claire Dooley
Absolutely. Stephanie, did you have anything to add to that?
Stephanie Lucreccio
I think that Livestream is a great opportunity, and I feel like for people who geographically, financially, can't be here, you have the opportunity to connect, to plug into what we're doing, and also lifelong access, which I think is really important. And to your point, Mary, with the Insider program, so often we get questions from people. Where do I find this? Where do I find that? I have a family member I'm trying to send information to. With this customizable dashboard, you can actually create lists and different areas where you save articles, CHGTV clips, and things that are useful for your own personal journey or when you're advocating with family and friends.
Claire Dooley
So, yeah, that's really helpful. Yeah, we totally love chd. I think CHD is an incredible organization. Before we get out of here, you guys, real quick, I want a call to action, right? I want to set the stage right. We just talked about infertility. So we're saying that women and people are being, or fertility is being. Infertility is being caused by the pharmaceutical industry. We're saying that children have been brain injured. What do people do?
Mary Holland
The call to action is the purpose of chd. That's the end the epidemic of chronic childhood disease. Vaccines are the primary driver of that chronic disease epidemic. They're not the only one. It's a total load. There's electromagnetic radiation, there's ultra processed food, there's geoengineering, there's fluoride and water. There are other factors, but the driving epidemic factor are vaccines. They're, you know, vaccines when babies are in utero and then in the first couple years of life. We've got to end medical mandates. We are not an anti vax organization. If you knowing all the information that you need to know, if you choose to vaccinate, we don't want to stand in your way. But we believe that the manufacturers should have liability and we don't believe that anybody should be in a position, any government, any doctor, any hospital, any job should be able to force you to take any vaccine. And so you need to stand in 2026. 2026 is going to be a critical year. You need to find out the candidates that support health freedom, the people who care about making America healthy again. And you've got to oppose any medical mandates and you can do that. Your vote counts and you've got to know who your legislators are. It helps to be active with other people. And then you got to oppose people who want mandates.
Claire Dooley
Actually, now that you bring that up, Mary, I want to shout out Maha action. They actually have a really great section on their website where you can put in all of your info, find out who your legislators are, figure out, you know, track bills, figure out what's going on in your area, how to sign petitions, you know, reach out to them. So that's a really great tip, Stephanie. Where can the viewers find you?
Stephanie Lucreccio
You so social media. Stephanie Lucreccio on Facebook, Steph Lucreccio on Twitter and X now and Instagram.
Claire Dooley
Okay, thank you so much, Stephanie. And what about you, Mary?
Mary Holland
Childrenshealthdefense.org I'm also on X. Mary Holland, NYC.
Stephanie Lucreccio
Absolutely.
Claire Dooley
Okay, thank you so much, ladies.
Mary Holland
Thank you, Claire.
Claire Dooley
I'm sure this will not be the last time we see you. We have a lot of wonderful guests lined up up for tomorrow, you guys. Before we talk a little bit more with another awesome advocate that's with us, I wanted to shout out Patriot Mobile. We're live here from Austin, Texas. Patriot Mobile has been around for 12 years. They are a big advocate for freedom, especially when it comes to your cell provider and who that is. So they have nationwide coverage. They're exceptional. Hundreds of thousands of Americans have made the switch. If you go to, if you call 972 Patriot or patriotmobile.com Bannon, you can learn more and you can actually get a free month. So, yeah, thanks so much, Patriot Mobile for being out here in Texas. I'm sure we'll hear more from them at some point. Before I get move on to our last guest, Michael Caine, I wanted to have a little throwback and play the trailer to the Trucker Convoy and then we can talk with the guy who we started it all with. I think they know that we're peaceful.
Stephanie Lucreccio
But they're just afraid if they let.
Claire Dooley
Too many of us in there, they.
Michael Caine
Won'T be able to hide the fact that there's so many people willing to stand up for their freedom.
Claire Dooley
What's the government so afraid of?
Michael Caine
You know.
Steve Bannon
Free people? I think.
Mary Holland
I know I'm stuck between.
Steve Bannon
A rock and a hard place right now. Bring everybody in and risk their safety or keep them out and say mission accomplished and go home and never actually do anything.
Claire Dooley
All right. So we just watched the Trucker Convoy documentary trailer that I made a couple years ago. It's been almost four years now, which is actually crazy. That show, that movie actually premiered here on Bannon's War Room. Before we hop in with the co host of my show that was on the road with, I wanted to actually talk a little bit about what happened with the truckers. So. So in Canada, their bank accounts were frozen. Their assets weren't seized, but they could have been. This is a great reason to invest in gold. So at Bridge Cold, you can go check out their website. You can text Bannon to 989-898. You know, the national debt is 37 trillion plus dollars. It's very important to invest in assets like gold. Katherine Austin Fitz will be joining us tomorrow. We can talk more about that. But joining me now is Michael Kane. So thanks for joining us, Michael.
Michael Caine
Thanks so much for having me, Claire.
Claire Dooley
Okay, so here's the lore, you guys, real quick. I was working on a court case in Tennessee with RFK Jr. For Rolf Hazlehurst, his son Yates Hazlehurst, who we were fighting the courts just like we were talking about earlier. And I get a call from Polytami, who we met with earlier as well, from the Backstreet movies, and she said, hey, look, there's an American trucker convoy. You're gonna go, there's gonna be a guy named Michael Caine. He's gonna be local. He's gonna be hosting this show. And it happened within, like, three days. And we were on the road. Michael, that was a crazy experience, and I wanted to talk a little bit about it before we. We get out of here.
Michael Caine
Yeah, I mean, that was a crazy experience. So I had just been fired for declining the COVID shot as a New York City special education teacher, and just a few months earlier, got lucky to get a job with Children's Health Defense. And then Polytami threw me on CHD tv, and it was like, ghetto. Like, I was in a hallway with, like, no. No professional equipment at all. But we jumped into this thing, Convoy Update, because, remember, in Ottawa, they had had, like, almost a million people at the Capitol protesting vaccine mandates with the trucker convoy there. And then all eyes were on Canada, of all places. We were like, oh, my God. And so some truckers in the US not to be showed up. Started one here. And as that was going, Polly and you and everyone made sure to get in at the ground floor. And you. You hopped onto the convoy, you started doing some. Some, like, remote reporting. And I was just kind of, you know, your straight man back in the studio just for you and Ariana at the time, who were just. And everybody just as. As ghetto as my setup was, people just couldn't stop watching you couldn't stop watching Ariana. You guys were just doing really amazing. I mean, what was really not happening there. Real reporting of a real important national event that was happening in America. And it was a great time. And that's what ended up kicking off what's now Good Morning chd. That was the first time CHD TV had a morning show. And it was all because of this thing that you helped kick off.
Claire Dooley
Yeah. Yeah. For our viewers who don't know, children's elephants actually has a daily show called Good Morning chd. Michael Caine is one of the hosts of that show now. And it did spring off from the Convoy Update, which was actually the first time that I intersected with War Room and came on Bannon's show. I'll tell you guys a story another time. I had no idea who Bannon was I lived under a rock.
Michael Caine
Good times.
Claire Dooley
Good times. But, yeah, Michael, you. I want to kind of dive in a little bit about how you got involved. You know, we've been talking about activism, We've been talking about everyone getting, you know, the call to action. What is that? How do we get involved? You were fired from your job because you didn't get the COVID vaccine, correct?
Michael Caine
Yeah. In New York City, as a. As a city worker, a public worker, we were forced to do it. I knew there was no way that was going to happen. You know, I have sincerely held religious beliefs against vaccination, regardless of all the other problems with this specific vaccine. So I always knew it was never, never an option for me at all. And we ended up starting a group called Teachers for Choice, which people could check out@teachersforchoice.org teachers F O R choice. And we've been fighting for four years. Children's Health Defense has backed up our lawsuits. There's two lawsuits that I'm a name plaintiff in, one in the state courts, one in federal courts. The state court suit won, but New York City has appealed it. So the way the courts work, even though I have a victory, they defer to the state. No, no, no. You don't get your job back until we see if you win these appeals. And I'm very, very fortunate and lucky. You know, I'm not. Today I'm the director of advocacy at Children's Health Self Defense, just an amazing organization. You know, my family is fed, my bills are paid. My retirement's ruined. But still, I know people with master's degrees driving Ubers. I know people who are working in the kitchens, in schools in New York City that are homeless, literally homeless, literally, in the shelter system. That's what this vaccine mandate did. I do have one piece of good news. So Zora Mamdani is now the mayor of New York City. That's not my good news. But. But that did happen. That did happen. The day after that happened. In New York City, the current mayor, Mayor Eric Adams, who we've been battling over these vaccine mandates and battling in the court, announced a process for reinstating fired vaccinated workers to our jobs. And there was a critical piece that we hadn't had yet.
Steve Bannon
Yet.
Michael Caine
And it's being reported that there will not be a legal waiver to get your job back. Up until this date, they were putting paper in front of you. You want your job back, fine. But you have to sign. You will never sue New York City. It's like, what if you did Nothing wrong. Why am I signing this paper? It looks like after the day after there's a new mayor elected and Eric Adams is in this kind of lame duck period, it appears he's kind of doing the right thing. It's not perfect, but it will literally help thousands of people who, like I said. Right.
Claire Dooley
Homeless people. Yeah.
Michael Caine
Or. Or who are driving Ubers right now, but they have master's degrees, who are gotten divorced, who've lost their homes. This is what's literally happened to the unvaccinated in New York City. So I'm cautiously optimistic about that. You know, I don't know exactly how much I could trust Eric Adams, but so far it looks like a real silver lining might be there in New York City for the unvaccinated right now. I'm hopeful.
Claire Dooley
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that would. That would be awesome to get people's jobs back. I think that's one thing that we kind of talk about a lot, is having accountability for what happened during COVID I mean, there's so much for the Democrats to call themselves, you know, the party of, you know, free health care and, you know, getting everyone the health care that they need. Yet we're firing people from their jobs and they're homeless and they can't feed their families. What does that have to do with public health? Everything to do with public health. Right. Like, if someone can put food on the table or not. So I. You know, Michael, I'm grateful to you. I also wanted to talk a little bit about what your call to action is. I mean, you're a teacher, like you said. Now you're not. Well, you are a teacher in just a different way. But, you know, what does advocacy looked like to you? What does Children's Health Defense mean to you? I mean, to kind of change your life and go in this direction of advocacy, I think is a. Is an amazing step that you've made. You know, what does it mean?
Michael Caine
So you know what? I think it's important to talk about the elections. Children's Health Defense doesn't support or oppose candidates, but we're alive in the world and we see everything that's going on. And one of the things we just saw was maybe a blue wave that just hit this country. And the real truth is, the fact is, if the midterm elections, if we end up seeing the Republicans lose the House, the Maha agenda is basically done in this iteration. Basically, Trump will be impeached. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. There's articles of impeachment for him. That's going to Suck all the air out of the room. I do think people need to really, really pay attention to this. Really understand if you support the Maha agenda, these midterm elections coming up are crucial. So I think that's the first thing that people need to look at. The second thing is just get active in general, who is running for office in your state, in your congressional district, for senate, at the local level. It's so important that you're engaged right now. It's so important that you're asking these candidates, what is your position on medical mandates? What is your position on the Maha agenda? I think that is the most crucial thing right now because for all the work that we do, all the education that happens, this is a golden moment, a moment of truth. That's the name of our conference here in Austin right now, this weekend. I never thought Bobby Kennedy was going to head and the health agencies, the federal health agencies in this country. I mean, it's just a testament to what we've been able to do as a movement. From those. From the convoy up the update days from, you know, rallying at city hall.
Claire Dooley
I told Steve that the convoy was the birth of maha. I think so. I think so, Yeah.
Michael Caine
I mean, you know, we. I mean, medical freedoms, we've both been fighting for a while, but that might, that might be a moment, moment where you see it sweep the nation, sweep the continent with what happened with this, this convoy movement. So I think people need to be eyes wide open and be really, really activated right now, because if you're not paying attention, the pendulum is going to swing in an anti Maha direction in a very dangerous fashion. So that's what I think people really need to be paying paying attention to right now more than anything else.
Claire Dooley
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I think this is a moment, like you said, a moment of truth. This is a moment in time where we have the advantage. You know, for so long, we didn't have the advantage and we were. We were just fighting uphill. We talked about the Battle of Trenton earlier with Stephanie and Mary. And so this is a moment now where we can really take. Take advantage of that. And I did mention this earlier, but I'll mention it again. That Maha action on their website. I don't know if you've seen this. Michael has like a. You can kind of. You can put in your address, where you live, your name, all that stuff, and you can find out who your congressman, legislators are. You can track bills in your state. You can figure out, you know, who you're supposed to be supporting, who are like Pro Maha candidates who are not Maha candidates and that can kind of help you move forward. You can also go tochildren's health defense.org and get connected with a chapter. I think you, you're involved with the chapters as well, right? Absolutely.
Michael Caine
Yeah, yeah. 100. Yeah. Definitely. Go to childrenshealthdefense.org just clip click on chapters in our menu and you'll find out if there is a chapter in your state already. Sometimes you don't have to reinvent the wheel. All you have to do is, you know, get, get on, get on up with the club. Join the people that are already doing this thing. I just want to give a shout out to Tony. Tony Lyons.
Stephanie Lucreccio
Yeah.
Michael Caine
One of the main people behind Maha Action. Tony has just done great work. Continue. Continues to do great work. He's a him and Maha Action, they're a platinum sponsor for the Moment of Truth conference here in Austin. I've worked with, with Tony in the past and just an amazing guy. Just putting his money where his mouth is and you know, fighting the good fight.
Claire Dooley
Yeah, yeah. Tony doesn't talk about it often, but he actually has a vaccinated daughter and it's personal for him. It's personal. And getting to work with him, you can see that he's not going to stop until, you know, things are changed. So thank you so much, Michael. Where can people find you on social media?
Michael Caine
People can find me on X, I am at Teacher Underscore Choice. You can find me on Instagram, Michael. And you can get everything@teachersforchoice.org and check me out on CHD TV. CHD TV every Tuesday morning, 10am Eastern Time and childrenshealthdefense.org and continuing to do work there. Thank God for them.
Claire Dooley
Thank you so much, Michael. We're going to be covering the CHD conference live from Austin, Texas this all weekend. It's going to be awesome. We're going to be cutting in and out of the feed so you guys can see the actual panels. We're going to be discussing things with speakers here. So please, please, please join us. We're so excited to have you. We're going to try to keep it as fast paced and interesting as possible. Take care. God.
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Date: November 8, 2025
Host: Claire Dooley (with Steve Bannon)
Guests: Mary Holland (CHD President), Stephanie Lucreccio (CHD Senior Advocacy Manager), Michael Caine (Teachers for Choice/CHD), and others
This episode of Bannon’s WarRoom Battleground is recorded live at the Children’s Health Defense (CHD) “Moment of Truth” conference in Austin, Texas. The show explores the medical freedom movement post-pandemic, sharing stories of advocacy, legislative battles, and vaccine injury, with a strong emphasis on grassroots organizing, legislative action, and the personal toll of mandates. The episode features wide-ranging conversations with leading figures in CHD and associated grassroots movements, focusing on mobilizing citizens for health freedom, challenging medical mandates, and personal experiences of vaccine injury.
Importance of Getting Involved:
Legislative Victories & Ongoing Battles:
Exemption Battles in State Law:
Rallying Cry for Activism (Mary Holland):
On Legal/Litigation Victories (Mary Holland):
On Parental Mobilization (Stephanie Lucreccio):
On Informed Consent (Stephanie Lucreccio):
On Population Control and Vaccines (Mary Holland):
On Reframing CHD’s Mission (Mary Holland):
On True Cost of Mandates (Michael Caine):
Strategic Political Warning (Michael Caine):
The tone of the episode is urgent, personal, and resolutely activist, combining testimonials of suffering and hope, calls for unity and action, as well as direct instructions for listeners to become informed, connected, and politically engaged. The guests are frank about past setbacks but optimistic about the movement’s potential as they push for legislative and societal change.
Mary Holland:
Listeners are strongly urged to:
This episode captures both the spirit and challenges of the medical freedom movement in 2025, offering listeners a compelling blend of personal narrative, legal strategy, and urgent calls to action.