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WarRoom Battleground EP 895: WarRoom Predicted Day 1 — Pope Francis’s Unholy War On Latin Mass Set To Continue Under Leo
WarRoom Battleground EP 895: WarRoom Predicted Day 1 — Pope Francis’s Unholy War On Latin Mass Set To Continue Under Leo...
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Reasons I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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And where do people like that go.
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To share the big lie?
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MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.
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I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my.
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Country, this country will be saved. War ROOM here's your host, Stephen k. Bannock.
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Wednesday, 19th of November, Anno Domini 2025 Harnwell here at the helm on Steve Bannon's War in that little slot of the week when we get to fix our cynical beady eyes on our hireling shepherds and drag out into daylight what they think they can keep under the COVID the protective cover of darkness. Let's bring on Frank and Jenny straight away. Thanks for coming on as always, guys. To help break down the the week's developments. Frank Walker, we're starting off the show. I said to myself I wasn't gonna laugh on this. I wasn't. I wasn't going to permit myself a smile. I've already broken that. I tried. I'll try to do this solemnly. What I'm thinking, what my conscience is screaming out is we told you so on this story. So basically, just to go back six months, when Leo Pope, Leo Pope Leo came out on to the balcony, the Grand Lodge at the Vatican, the three principal voices who said, beware. This is going to be 2.0. Don't deceive yourself, folks. Beware those three voices, Frank Walker and Canon 2:12, which is the Catholic Church's answer to the Drudge Report. It has everything there in real time that you need to be aware of if these things are important to you. Second, I would mention, as I do routinely, Chris Jackson, who's pushing out great stuff, Chris, great narrative stuff on on Substack and of course the War room. Steve Bannon, myself, we said right from the beginning, folks, pay attention. Don't allow yourselves to be swept along by Catholic Inc. And certainly not by Trad Inc. Who's only going to deceive you, right? Be attention, pay attention to what your sources of news are. So then a couple of days ago, rather strange, Frank Walker, how this works because it's the United States Catholic Bishops Conference, that is, that is actually carrying a revelation given to the UK Bishops.
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The nuncio to England. So it's a bit strange about that, how, that, how this has transpired, because you would naturally expect the UK Bishops Conference, UK Bishops Conference to be pushing this revelation up onto their own news site. That has not been the way it worked. Somehow news got out from the English bishops to the American bishops and it's out there on the American bishop's website and spreading to the rest of the corners of the world. And what has happened is this, folks, and don't want to say I told you so, right? But Frank Walker, Chris Jackson, Steve Bannon, Ben Harnwell, we did tell you so. Traditionis. Traditionis custodes, which is the. The letter of the loathed, despised, not at all lamented. Pope Francis confiscated, withdraw, withdrew the right reiterated by Pope Benedict to allow any Catholic priest without permission from the bishop to celebrate the old Mass, which the modernists who've hijacked the church since the Second Vatican Council have been trying to suppress. Pope Benedict XVI went significantly against that and said, any, any priest can say the old Mass, no permissions necessary. And that loathed tyrant Bergoglio, known to some as Pope Francis, tightened up on that and said, no, no, no, we're gonna tighten this up. You now need permission from the bishop and the bishop needs, I think, needs to get permission from, from Rome. And everyone said when Leo was. Was elected, oh, watch now, watch, watch how he's going to be more balanced towards the trads, right? Everyone. Not, of course, when I say everyone, I, I exclude Frank Walker, Chris Jackson, the war room. And they all said this again when Cardinal Burke, very holy guy, God bless him, God bless his soul, God bless his heart, when he celebrated the Mass at the high altar in the Vatican. Great pomp and appreciation from Tradinc saying, watch, watch, folks, watch, watch. Leo is about to reverse course on bed, Golia's pet policy. And we said, folks, beware. Probably not going to happen. And how did we know this? Because we simply repeated ad nauseam that Leo was elected on the fourth ballot by a conclave, 80% of which. That's record time, pretty much record time. 80% of the cardinals of which the cardinal electors of which had been chosen by ber. So it was most unlikely that there was going to be a change in policy. Tradinc. Look, I'm going to hand over to Frank Walker. I'll close with this. Tradinc lied to you. We did not. Frank Walker, tell us the lowdown of what exactly has transpired.
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You're right that they were building up to this for a long, long time, telling Catholics and people that are in the media and people in social media to zip it. Stop saying that Leo is not this or not that. Stop pointing, calling attention to the atrocities, the uncatholic things that he says, the political leftist things he says, because if we just go along, they're going to drop traditionis custodes and open them. Meanwhile, Latin Masses, ancient masses, are canceled all over America, all around the world. And it looks like it's getting much, much worse than it was. And so they didn't have. They didn't have too much left to go on. And then finally, in a desperate situation, they came up with this. I would call it a stunt. And the report was out of the UK Bishops. They had a plenary meeting. And the nuncio, who is a Spanish prelate and who has served in the, in the eastern, you know, Moldova and Kazakhstan and all these places may be somewhat unfamiliar, maybe open to some sort of special tricks. I don't. But he announced, they came out in the press, that Leo doesn't see any reason to exclude the Latin Mass. It's just one of many rites. And he's opening the door to the old liturgy. And if you just put in a request for a traditionis extension of two years, he'll probably grant it, or he will grant it. So that was the story, and all of the Tradinc Stonus is it. But they jumped on that story. They didn't say that Trinisios Castellus was removed, but anybody who wanted an extension could get one. And that was, you know, immediately, almost immediately, they started walking it back. This is the thin victory that they had. The next day, the very, like, the very next day, Buendia, the nuncio, said, I'm sorry that those minutes got leaked to the meeting. You know, we're going to implement Tracionis Custodes, which is being used to crush Masses all over the world, exactly the way it's written. So that, that's what ended up to be the big thing that they had been making us wait for, for a long, long time, it turns out, to a nothing burger, really. And I don't know. I don't even. I don't necessarily believe that that was. What was the information that was in that meeting. It was never really retracted. You know, he didn't ever, he didn't walk it back. He just said, we're going to do it. The, the, the, the church wants, you know, I'll tell Leo the first story said I'll tell Leo to tell Cardinal Roche, who hates the ancient Mass, to be more lenient about it, to be more open to it. None of that was. Was retracted. It was all just shut down. Saying that it was. I think that it's. This was probably. Since this is all un. Unsourced stories, I think a lot of it probably didn't even happen. I don't know. But, you know, you can't. You can't know. But that's what seemed like to be a story, a total nothing.
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Burger. Well, the card. Yeah. I mean, you mentioned Cardinal Roach, an English bishop known universally to English Catholics as Cockroach, which sort of gives some indication of the affection he's held in, in the English Church. What are the, what are the conclusions do you draw on this? I want to mention this because you, Chris Jackson, myself, we have beat. We have come in for so much opprobrium, right from trad Inc. And basically from any Catholic news organization with the word Catholic in the title. They've called us extremist, they've called us divisive. They said we're poisoning people against Pope Leo. But we've absolutely called it from day one, from minute to one of our. One of day one. We've been absolutely correct on this. Do you have a takeaway for folks when it comes to how they get their news when, when it comes to the Catholic Church specifically?
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Yeah. Unfortunately, a lot of the people that were helpful and faithful during the time of Francis are not. And you really have to ask yourself, who benefits and how do we follow the money? When you're, when you're looking and there are good voices out there and there are emerging voices that you need to pay attention to. You know, there was even a little bit of a battle on Twitter and one priest framed it. There's. There's traditional Catholics out there who believe that the entire church needs to be reformed, that there's trouble with the, with the Pope. There's trouble with the doctrine, there's trouble with the Mass that's reflected, reflecting a wrong doctrine and in the real ancient Mass. And those things all need to be addressed for the sake of the souls. And then there's a group of traditional Catholics that are acting as if just being able to get your. The Ancient Mass, which. The ancient Mass is what the world really hates because it really brings graces and it instills Catholic faith in people. But that's not enough. You know, you have to address the whole problem. You, you have to look at the Pope with clear eyes and clearly report, don't, don't, you know, don't. I think that's my takeaway to people that are getting, you know, their information. I mean, after all, you know, just in Detroit, where they've crushed so many masses now, they've just announced an enormous restructuring because nobody is going to church in Detroit anymore, just old people. I mean, there's a trend, which you're going to hear about, of some new people starting to go. But in the meantime, all the churches that are built reflecting the ancient Mass, they're all going to be bulldozed, they're all going to be sold off in Detroit. They're cutting way, way back. They haven't announced how many people. That's the reality. So you have to look at what the Church is really like. You have, you have a Pope that really is up there for politics. He's up there for climate change. He's again, he's going against the border control, United States. These aren't Catholic things. They don't bring anybody into the church. So, so don't limit yourself. Get the whole picture. That's my advice to people. And remember, that's what needs to be addressed. We have to really deal with the situation of the hierarchy and because the money that has bought the church, the infiltrated hierarchy, and a Pope that does not really reflect Catholicism. And that would go with the ancient Mass too.
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That's putting it diplomatically. Frank, I couldn't agree more with what you say on this, that the Mass is supremely important. It is, as they say, the source and the summit of the Christian life. But it is not, it is not the end of the story of what this battle is about. And I have to remind people from time to time that the Fathers of the Second Vatican Council, all the bishops of the world gathered together, the only Mass they knew, that they, since being altar boys and children and sort of priests and bishops, the only Mass they knew at that time, obviously was the traditional Latin Mass. And yet they were able to come together as a body, as a worldwide episcopacy, and promulgate all of these non Catholic documents that cause us so much damage now. So for people who say, oh, look, just settle, settle down, settle down, guys, don't be so rabid, where we're making progress, we're making strides, get sort of renormalizing the old Mass, that is great, but it's not the end of the story. Steve says all the time in the, in the political sphere, you folks, the war in policy, you have your agency for yourself. And what we try to do on this hour, one hour a week, is just remind Catholics that they have agency as well. And I would add to that a sense of duty as the laity to help bring the Catholic Church that we love. We do this because we love the church, right? To bring the Church back to the fullness of the Catholic faith. Guarantee this, folks. We will keep our cynical beady eyes on this non stop and bringing you updates on on this on the as they occur. In a short moment, Jenny is going to tell us this horrific story out of America, specifically Maine, where a district court has prohibited her mother from taking her daughter, her 11 year old daughter, to any church services or even reading the Bible to her. Jenny's got the lowdown on that. But first folks, when you hear that the national debt is at $37.3 trillion and when inflation jumps all over the place, do you ever think maybe now is the time to buy some gold where there's a hedge against inflation, peace of mind during global instability, or just for sensible diversification? Birch Gold Group believes every American should own physical gold. Birch Gold can help you roll an existing IRA or 401k into an IRA in gold. And Birch Gold is the only precious metals company we at the War Room Trust, as do tens of thousands of their customers. So make right now your first time to buy gold. Text Bannon that's B A n n o n to 989-898. Again, that's Bannon to 989-898. So Jenny, when I saw this story, I was absolutely horrified. I thought, you know, Americans have first Amendment rights here on the free practice of religion. Tell me what has happened in Maine and what's the reaction to this?
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So this has to be one of the ugliest divorce and custody cases I have ever heard of. It's a sad tale of a couple who cannot agree on the religious education of their daughter. And the district court in Maine ruled that the mother was forbidden from taking her daughter to church or giving her daughter any religious education and handed all of that authority over to the father exclusively. As if this shocking overstep in government power wasn't enough, the evidence that was in the piece which was in Newsweek recently, was flimsy at best. The lawyer for the father claimed that the child had suffered psychological distress being subjected to biblical teachings, including images of fallen angels and, you know, the concept of eternal damnation. Now, thankfully, this case has been taken to the main supreme court and they heard, they finished oral Arguments this week, I believe. So it will take them a few months to come out with a ruling. But I mean, obviously not only religious freedom people, but First Amendment people in general watching this very closely. Now I have to say that I am always one to find the silver lining, as you guys well know. But I have a theory here that the more extreme and the more extreme the hostility becomes towards Christian belief, the more it is actually driving people into the arms of the Christian faith. Because even the most hardened atheists can see that that is a wild overstep in government power and it's literally baked into the United States that they cannot dictate religion.
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I know you've got some good news on to show. We're going to. You, we're going to, we'll go over to your good news in just a moment. But you mentioned the Newsweek write up of this and that's the specific references to psychological harm.
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Yeah.
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As you cited of the fallen angels and eternal suffering. They put, they, they put this in scare quotes. So it's, you know, to give an idea of just how, of how bad the damage is to this poor 11 year old girl. She's been subjected to images of, with the scare quotes, fallen angels and eternal suffering.
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And it's also how insane the liberal worldview has become that it's absolutely verboten and it's distressing and should be banned to tell a child about the concept of heaven and hell, which is what eternal suffering entails. But I'm sure this father would be perfectly fine with this child being told, oh, you can change your sex and you can be queer and you can be anything you want to be, except not a Christian.
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Look, you're a parent, Jenny. Right? What, what should happen in this case where you have two parents with teenage children, early teenage children, and those parents between them have radically different ideas and as to the religious instruction of, of the child. Now, to give good faith, just to give good faith to the judges. One moment in Maine just to think this through. So you have the family courts and like the district court here that, that is called upon to intervene. How are they supposed to navigate this? If one parent says, you know, this is child, you know, talking about fallen angels and eternal suffering is, is child abuse. And the other parent says it's just, it's just common garden Christian theology. Who, how if they can't decide between them, should the church, the judges, the courts intervene to mediate between the two? What is, what is the way forward?
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Well, legally I don't see what else, how else it can be decided. But the problem is putting legality aside, the reality is if a child has one parent who has convinced her that, because let's face it, children are very suggestible and children can be fed very easily a line and be encouraged to think highly negatively about either Christianity or much more commonly another parent. And once that happens, it's very, very difficult for that child to overcome and get free of those toxic lies that is being fed by one parent. This happens very commonly in parental alienation cases. And this is that taken up about 100 steps because not only is the father saying, you know, the mother can't be entrusted with sort of moral and spiritual teachings, but the church itself is this big scary beast. The child is likely, I don't know if the child believes it or not, but the child is likely to have that sincere belief and how that child then can be deprogrammed or be comforted even and know that the mother is not trying to harm the child and neither is the church. And that's a whole other ball of wax. And it's a far more complex and far more painful process than judges on a Supreme Court in the state of Maine making a decision to the letter of the law. It's a terrible, terrible thing to do to a child. Absolutely appalling.
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As I understand the precise nature here of what's happened is that the courts gave the lower court, the district court gave the exclude and I quote, basically the exclusive responsibility for the religious formation to the father. And when the mother went against that, brought against the original legal action, apparently she took the daughter into town. She said she was just taking the daughter, the 12 year old girl into town when of all horrors, she was taking her to, to an abortion. An anti abortion, A pro life. An anti abortion rally. A pro life rally. So you can see that there is obviously different sensibilities, political and religious sensibilities between the two parents here. But they gave very strangely, I think, and this I think is going to be the nature of the appeal to the Supreme Court, of the judicial Supreme Court of Maine, that very unusually they gave for no reason at all. There's no other question marks against the mother who's.
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Yeah.
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And the mother in every other respect.
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The mother's lawyer claimed that they used an expert witness that was highly biased. And that sounds very believable to me given the state of liberal world in general. But I have to say, like this crazy hostility that is so exaggerated and so in your face, I genuinely believe is driving people into the arms of the church and the other story that we talked about is a story that was in the New York Post about how young people from liberal towns and cities across the United States who moved to New York to make it big and become a success are turning to the Catholic Church. Catholic churches in Brooklyn, in Greenwich Village and the Upper east side have all reported a surge in attendees to the point where one of them said they had to put on an extra mask. The actual numbers are not huge, but of course, this is New York City. But having lived in New York City for a long time, my reaction to this was pure astonishment. And the interesting thing was that all of the people interviewed, there's about five or six people interviewed, they were all young, under 40. They were all from liberal backgrounds. And at least three of them mentioned that they had parents or grandparents who had been brought up in the church and had rejected the church because of church scandal. Now, this is a very interesting generational shift. It means that the old established church that absolutely messed up all of those scandals is being left behind and a new generation is coming in and hopefully they will reinvigorate the institution.
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Well, all I can say is God help these kids when they step. When they cross the threshold. No, no, God help these kids when they cross the threshold. Because what people think the Catholic Church is. I say this as a convert, someone who converted 25 years ago. What people think the Catholic Church is from outside is very different from. From what you find inside. From the outside is incredibly appealing. You know, it's supposed to be the. You get the idea that this is unchanging rock that has been clear, consistent and. And a fortress against modernism and modern values. And of course, you could you make the argument. It largely is with regard to the faithful, sadly, are hiring bishops who are driving the church into. Into the ground, are stamping out if we lost.
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Can you hear me, Frank Sinatra? Yeah, I can hear you. I'm going to quote Frank Sinatra. If the Catholic Catholics can make it there, they can make it anywhere.
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In New York.
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New York.
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Great. Okay, in New York, folks. Stand by. On the subject of scandal and the hireling shepherds in the Catholic Church. Standby. Frank Walker has more stories that will make your hair stand on end.
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Welcome back. So, Frank Walker, when I saw this next story that we're going to be discussing now about 48 trans people in a Vatican meeting, you instantly think of 48 sort of people of dubious gender identity and doubtful sexuality or wandering around the Vatican halls in long, flowing robes. You think? So it's just talking about the bishops then, but actually it might be more to it than this. Tell us about the 48 trans who have been received by Pope Leo.
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Well, you're right, it is. You know, it makes you wonder behind the surface, you know, because where there's smoke, there's fire, and there's a lot of smoke. There's a lot of fire in the Vatican. I don't know if people are familiar, but since Francis, there's been the phenomenon of tranny hookers having regular appearances in the back. And last week, I think I said that they went to mass every couple weeks, but they didn't. I meant to say it was Part of the regular audiences. And then for the last couple years, they've been going to this annual lunch for the homeless. I'm sorry, apologize if I use the word bums, because I stick to that word I use lot on the site. But we're talking about a world day of the poor, enormous event with 1500 people for lunch. And they have tickets that they give out. Everything to now is in the tickets. I think you get tickets if you want to see the bones of St. Francis. Now everything has to have a ticket. So they went. They go all over. All over Italy, and they pull in homeless people from all over the place. And part of the groups that they get in there is these. I ever heard 48 tranny hookers. And then the same kind of group that has been coming from a parish near the beach in Italy called. What is the town or something. Maybe you know it, Ben. These training hookers come through a parish priest in this beach town. It reminds me in America it'd be more like Key west, this town. And they all come in and they last. For the last couple years, two of them had dinner at the Pope's table. So the story is now that these training hookers who are regularly also fed by the Vatican and sort of taken care of. They. They didn't get to be at the Pope's table. They were only nearby. And all over the worldwide press is trumpeting, well, the training hookers. Leo is different now. Leo is. Doesn't have the training hooker. So close. They came to meet him, they gave him like, letters. I don't know what the letter said. They gave him a picture of Madonna. I mean, the Madonna. I don't know if it was Madonna, but they gave him all these things, but they didn't get to sit there. And that shows that we have a whole new kind of church because these guys can't go. Meanwhile, the papal almoner who's in charge of these events, he said, well, you know, they were late. The training hookers were late. That's why they weren't there. And they weren't. They were selected at random at the last minute. Which makes me wonder, you know, how do you select homeless people for the. For the Pope's table? Do you have to weed out the training hookers, but not the drug addicts or the ones, you know, it's hard to tell.
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I. I don't get this. What do you mean that they were late? Surely if they're invited to lunch with the pope, you know, you turn up. I mean, it's the Pope, right? Or the Pope, right. I mean, even, even if he's a pretend, pretend, fake Pope, you turn up on time. So they, they, they couldn't, they couldn't even. Such is the disrespect. Such is the disrespect for the, for the fake Pope. They couldn't even be bothered to turn up for the lunch on time. And they were. Instead of saying, no, you could, you can't come in outside, there'll be gnashing of teeth. Wailing and gnashing of teeth. Right. Instead of doing that, oh, come in. Just, just sit on a table that's a little further away. Wow. Frank Walker.
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Wow.
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A little bit of a diss from the Papal Omni, who's more. Become more of an enforcer in this case, and saying that they're not allowed to be at the table with the Leo, but they're happy about it. The leader, Alessia, Alessia Nobil I think is her name, she said, well, it's okay, because we still got to mingle with them and everything. And Cardinal Krajewski, the Papal Almoner, says, well, they're still integral to the church. That's the important thing. Make sure that they know that tranny hookers are part of the Catholic Church. And as you can see, that they have a table with all the other homeless people. I just, I think it's amazingly shocking that, that, that people in the world have to listen to this kind of scandal because, no, you're not, you know, you're a part of the Catholic Church if you follow the church teaching. And it gives a terrific scandal to all the people that, like, we're talking about here, the new people that are trying to find the Catholic Church to go back and into the past and learn that, you know, how to be obedient to God. That's what it's all about. It's not about making, you know, pretending that you're caring about what, what the church teaches and then on the other hand, you know, putting people at the front table. I noticed that, that Edgard, the, the picture, this picture had of the, the, this secretary, the young secretary that Leo has been working with since he was a teenager, Edgar, sitting right there next to him at the, at the table. They looked pretty bored. They looked like they were just sitting there waiting for the whole thing to know. They said it was a joyous affair. So I think there's.
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Behind the scenes, of course they look bored. It's lame fair for them. Look, you remember a couple of years ago when where one. You had one of these gay apps. It might have been Grindr, but I wouldn't swear to it. You had one of these gay apps and all the data was leaked. It was a data dump, right? And they looked and they found out all these rent boys were being called in to the Vatican and they had all the data. I mean, they had all the phone numbers. And of course, obviously the story died to death. So half these people, right, they're at home. They're at home at the Vatican. They'll know it. You know, you say they passed. They pass a message to, To Pope Leo, but we don't know what was on the letter. Probably see you later, darling. See you at 9pm the usual spot. Jokes aside. Jokes aside. Right. Jenny Holland was saying just before the break how you have young people, the thirst for the. For the. For the. For the supernatural, for the spiritual, for the. For the unchanging right against materialism. What are these guys going to find when they actually take a look at the Catholic Church and she's the one who's claiming to be the vicar of Christ surrounded by trans. And here's the thing, because they'll say Christ ate with prostitutes. That's obviously what they're going to say. But the point is there's no call to conversion, right? There's no call to leave the life of sin. This is fundamentally just the scandal between the cheap grace that the. The conciliar church is pushing out.
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C
Yes. And I would say to those young people who sound in this article that Jenny was talking about sound intelligent people who are drawn to something because of the things that they learn and because the graces in their life and from the good deeds that they've done over time. Those people need to concentrate on their prayers, make sure that you pray because God will help you discern and you have to weed through. Remember, the devil hates the Catholic Church. They hate the good priests and they're going to be working against it. So you have to think, have sort of a militant attitude that say your, you know, find the right prayers, build your own faith, working together and learn your. Learn your past, find the pockets of Catholic resistance and work that way, you know, because you're gonna, you're gonna meet a lot of trouble on the way. And if you look around, you'll find, you'll be able to find it. Because it's like in politics, you have to decide between who's on the wrong and who's on the. On the right side, even if they're not all the way There that was, that's my recommend to you to the new people. Don't let this this bad, you know, Leo says that he's, you know, he's in Casa Gandolfo playing tennis and swimming in the pool in the cold right now. I mean, I don't know what's going on there. I know they have that new gay married bistro that's going in there, you know, and I know that Edgar and all sorts of people are going to be in the new condo that's become the Papal Palace. But don't let these people decide drive you out of the church because the church needs to be fixed, but become part of the solution, become part. Since you've been, you've been drawn closer to the church, realize what the work that needs to be done. All sorts of failures over the years have led to this, all sorts of betrayals, all sorts of compromises and somebody needs to come in and fix that so that people can get to heaven.
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B
That's word perfect, Frank. Thanks for that exposition. You know, and Jenny's coming on every week updating us with these stories. What the, the story that she mentioned before is, is part of a trend that is definitely, the Holy Spirit is definitely doing something not just in the Catholic Church, in the evangelical churches as well. And you have like the young guys, like sort of 18 to 28, sniffing out around the church for the first time. That's the cohort, the age group that is since the Second World War, been so difficult to keep involved in the church because you get kids, they grow up in the church and then they hit early adulthood and they drop out. It's like almost a universal practice. And then they come back a little bit after that, especially when they're starting to have families themselves and they want to bring their kids up. But that cohort basically abandons the church immediately. And what is taking place right now is quite unique in the post war milieu and it's going against that. And Jenny's coming on every week, sort of giving us updates and how the mainstream media is picking up on this. And you know, Frank, everything that you're saying is absolutely perfect. We the laity, because it's not going to be the hiding shepherds, right? We the laity now have to have play our part in shepherding the sort of novices, as it were, inverted commas, newbies into the church so that they won't be scandalized within five minutes at the practices. And the fragrant lack of interest in formation, Catholic formation in the church that really falls down to us, the laity now. So thank you both for those, for those insights. We'll be coming back to Jenny, I think you have a final story now about your rapper. This is the story that you've been following on. But just, but just to give us a moment because first of all folks, what if you had one of the brightest minds in the War room delivering critical financial research every month? War Room listeners know Jim Rickards as our wise man. A former CIA, Pentagon and White House advisor with an unmatched grasp of geopolitics and capital markets, Jim predicted Trump's electoral college victory exactly 312 to 226. Now he's issuing a dire warning about a moment that could define Trump's presidency and your financial future. That's his latest book, MoneyGPT, which exposes how AI is setting the stage for financial chaos, bank runs at lightning speed, algorithm driven crashes and even threats to national security. And I'm sure folks, you've already seen over recent weeks, bitcoin itself has fallen by by 25 from its early earlier on in the year high. So right now, War Room members will get a free copy of MoneyGPT when they sign up for Strategic Intelligence, which is Jim's flagship financial newsletter. Time is running out. Go to ricards war room.com and claim your free book. That's Rickards war room.com R I C K A R D S War Room or one word Jenny. Nicki Minaj has been tapped by the Trump administration to go to the United nations if I'm not mistaken. Tell us more.
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D
Yeah, so this is the first time I'm giving an update on War Room. Nevermind an update on Nicki Minaj of all things. But yeah, a few weeks ago you'll remember that she retweeted, I think a truth social post by Trump imploring something be done about the violence being committed against Christians in Nigeria. The wholesale slaughter of Christians has been going on for a long time and is largely ignored by the powers that be and the chattering classes and also the church perhaps. So Nicki Minaj stepped in where church leaders have failed to tread. And as a result she was then asked by UN Ambassador Mike Walsh, Michael Walsh to speak at the UN which she is going to do. And she is going to use her enormous platform to spotlight the plight of these Christians in Nigeria. So this is an incredible story. I mean we talked about this a few weeks ago and I said that the fact that Nicki Minaj has stood put her head above the parapet and said something positive about Trump was sort of like breaking the fourth wall. This was a shattering and a pop culture shattering event. And now she's been given this honor and she's very grateful for it. She wrote a very lovely post thanking the administration for this, and it's just. It's rather heartwarming. But I also, I went and I did a little bit of research into her fan base because she's not my personal cup of tea, so I had to look into it a bit. And the characteristics of her fan base are that they are very young, they are very online, they're very international, they're very loyal, and interestingly, they're very LGBTQ friendly, and she interacts with them intensely, and they do consider her to be their leader. So because they're young and online, they will be living in a world that is pretty much devoid of politics, certainly of policy and, you know, young people. Fair enough. But for many of these people, this will be the first time they have heard about the plight of the Christians being slaughtered by Islamists in Nigeria. But also for a lot of them, it'll be the first time they hear anything positive about the Trump administration. And I cannot emphasize enough how significant that is, because she's essentially reaching into a demographic that to the extent that is political at all, it is political in the sense that it has been queered by LGBT propaganda in schools. And the fact that she is offering them an alternative vision is incredibly significant. This could not be a better tack for MAGA to take.
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B
It's also illustrative, is it not, of just how dominant Donald Trump is now in the popular culture, which has been the sole terrain since the Second World War. Again, let's go back to the Second World War, again, of the left, or at least from the 50s. The popular culture has been the terrain from 68 onwards. And this would indicate now, really, for the first time since, say, 68, that that's no longer the case. It is now MAGA as a cultural force which is penetrated like an unstoppable force into these previous bastions of left wing communist culture. Right?
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D
100%. 100%. You're exactly right. This is a demographic that has, over which LGBT and queer, as in queer theory propaganda, have had untrammeled access and total control. The fact that Nicki Minaj is the one who is brave enough to push back on that, and in her own, you know, inimitable way, you know, she's not. She's not going to turn around and throw, you know, a lace scarf over her head. I mean, she's not at all. I mean, her music is profane. She is an outrageous diva, so. But I welcome the fact that it is her. I mean, it's a little bit Mary Magdalene esque, if anything, that she is the one coming into the public, into the lives of these young people and drawing their attention to this. Because on the facts of the matter, there is no disputing that the Christians are being victimized and that they are the underdog in this particular nation. That'll be a very obvious point. That will be a very understandable point to these young people who are always looking for meaning and they're always looking for an underdog. So I, I mean, I say watch this space, but Nicki Minaj is a game changer.
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B
Yeah. I must confess, I'm not that familiar with her musical genre myself. Frank, I noticed you want to make a quick point quickly.
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C
I want to say that it's sort of like Pope Leo in reverse. And trumpet, to me always seems really great at undoing. He unwinds the knot that somebody wound up. And so because the Pope Leo just said last night that it's just economics and land disputes that's causing these problems. And it's not just Christians, it's. It's Muslims. He's totally downplayed that. 60,000 people, Christians have been murdered, tens of thousands of churches have been burned. I mean, that's what I saw today. It's like. But that's the opposite. I don't know. I don't think it'll work as well as Nicki Minaj coming towards Maga. That's going to be much more effective than having Leo come towards, you know, the opposite direction a thousand percent.
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B
And that just sort of illustrates where we are, you know, and it comes back to a point that we've mentioned here on the War Room before, that really it is POTUS himself now at the apex not only of evangelical Christianity, which is what the MAGA base is, but also I think is the leading point for inspiration within the traditional Catholic community as well. Because, you know, it was POTUS who put out the message congratulating Catholics for the on the feet of Saint Michael the Archangel and sort of static from the Vatican that was too busy blessing blocks of ice. Jenny Holland, where do people go on social media to catch up with your superb analysis week in, week out?
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D
You can find me on substack@jennyeholland.substack.com and on X at the Semper Femina 21.
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B
Thanks, Jenny and Frank. Walker, quick word of endorsement. As I do every show for Canon 212, folks, I don't, I'm not, I'm not on commission here. Frank isn't giving me a percentage of his huge advertising slicings. I do it, I push canon 212 because I, I, I, I, I, a thousand percent think that, that it is worth your time going to that website and having a look because it has all the anthology of the headlines with Frank's analysis in terms of his, how he frames the headlines. Frank, quickly, where, where do people go then to get Canon 212?
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C
Canon 212. Type it up in the headline and Canon 212 spell spelled out on Twitter and at Gloria TV and rumble is the daily update of the news headline.
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B
That, folks is all we have time for. Thanks for Jenny Holland and Frank Walker for joining me on the show this week. Thanks to Will in and his team in Denver and to Cameron Wallace, our superb producer. God bless for now.
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A
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