Podcast Summary

Podcast: Bannon’s War Room – WarRoom Battleground EP 904
Episode Title: Exclusive Interviews From CHD Conference Pt. 2
Date: December 5, 2025
Location: Children’s Health Defense Conference, Austin, TX
Main Hosts/Moderators: Claire Dooley (documentary filmmaker, CHD)
Featured Guests: Kevin McKernan (genomic scientist), Mary Holland (President, CHD), Michael Kane (Director of Advocacy, CHD), plus coverage of Senators Rand Paul and Ron Johnson’s contributions.

Episode Overview

This episode delivers exclusive interviews and panel highlights from the 2025 Children’s Health Defense (CHD) Conference, focusing on vaccine safety, scientific transparency, medical freedom, and community activism. The discussions center around critical critiques of COVID-19 protocols, the pharmaceutical industry, and regulatory agencies, featuring deep dives into the science of genomics, peer review, hospital protocols, and grassroots activism. Notable scientists, senators, and community members share research, personal stories, and calls to action for increased health freedom and regulatory accountability.

Key Discussions & Insights

1. Genomics, PCR Testing, and DNA Impurities in COVID Vaccines

Introduction to Genomics and PCR Misuse

• Guest: Kevin McKernan (Genomic Scientist)
• Discussion: Kevin explains the basics of genomics and PCR testing, detailing how PCR is a key diagnostic tool but was often misapplied during COVID-19.
  • "PCR is a wonderful tool ... what it doesn't do very well, unless you combine it with other techniques, is tell you whether that organism is alive or dead." — Kevin McKernan [02:50]
  • PCR positivity often didn’t correlate with live, infectious virus, leading to unnecessary quarantines and undermining herd immunity.
  • Financial incentives may have driven overly sensitive PCR usage. [04:16]

Discovery of DNA Impurities in Vaccines

• Kevin recounts how, after receiving vaccine vials for unrelated research, he unexpectedly detected DNA plasmid impurities in Pfizer and Moderna shots.
  • These impurities include SV40 components in Pfizer (not Moderna), which can integrate into human DNA and are considered a cancer risk factor.
    • "The SV40 components are ... elements that allow that vaccine to replicate inside of mammalian hosts. ... That’s dangerous because it could shed, and it could never turn off." — Kevin McKernan [07:06]
  • The presence of these elements was not disclosed to regulators, which Kevin argues may constitute fraud. [08:41]

Scientific Validation and Community Replication

• Multiple independent scientists and even high school students have replicated Kevin’s findings, emphasizing the importance of reproducibility over traditional peer review.
  • "There's a long list of people who have [replicated this]. ... Reproduction now is the most important aspect." — Kevin McKernan [09:57]

The “Weaponization” of Science

• Kevin critiques peer review as increasingly political and used to enforce conformity rather than support scientific discovery.
  • "If you ever get a retraction, it's like a career-ending move ... a conformity system." — Kevin McKernan [10:32]
  • Papers not declaring "safe and effective" in their opening lines face threats of retraction, stifling inquiry. [11:37]

Why the Paper Matters

• The published paper documents vaccine DNA impurity levels exceeding FDA limits, especially dangerous when delivered via lipid nanoparticles (LNPs), which may increase cancer risk.
  • “We think it's much more dangerous now that you have lipid nanoparticles involved and ... those limits need to be changed.” — Kevin McKernan [13:16]
• The lack of transparency in clinical trials versus commercial vaccine batches is highlighted as a sign of regulatory failure and possible systemic fraud.
  • "The paper highlights a deception ... there are hidden components inside these vaccines only because citizens are sequencing them on their own." — Kevin McKernan [16:24]

2. Historical Examples and Concerns over Vaccine Program Integrity

Fertility-Regulating Vaccines in Africa

• Host Claire Dooley recounts producing a documentary about the claimed use of tetanus vaccines bound to HCG—intended to induce miscarriages—deployed under WHO programs in Kenya.
  • "That is a crime against humanity. ... No other program in the world gives women five doses of tetanus shots spread six months apart." — Claire Dooley [20:24]
• The narrative is cited as an example of intentional misuse and lack of medical transparency.

3. Cannabis and Autism—Biomedical Interventions

Medical Cannabis for Autistic and Epileptic Children

• Kevin McKernan discusses laboratory work on sequencing and cleaning up cannabis supply chains for medical use, especially for children with autism and epilepsy.
  • "Some kids will respond to CBD, some ... need THC. ... In the case of autism, they're not actually seeing that [kids get 'stoned']." — Kevin McKernan [21:49]
• Cannabis is presented as a promising, sometimes FDA-approved alternative for certain neurological conditions.
• The conversation also touches on Tylenol’s (acetaminophen) toxic byproducts and their relation to the endocannabinoid system and potential neuroinflammatory pathways leading to autism. [23:24-25:23]

4. Highlights from the CHD Conference

Senator Appearances and Keynotes

• Sen. Rand Paul: Spoke about his book "Deception," investigating COVID origins, lab leaks, and illegal gain-of-function research. He’s working to compel Dr. Anthony Fauci to testify before the Senate:
  • "He really articulated ... the reality of the deep state in hiding this information and ... who’s really accountable." — Mary Holland [32:38]
• Sen. Ron Johnson: Lauded as a key advocate for the vaccine-injured and medical freedom. Actively seeks testimony and supports CHD’s mission.

Book Highlights & Institutional Critique

• Gavin de Becker’s "Forbidden Unwanted Truth": Distributed at the conference, the book uncovers how official bodies craft narratives to obscure accountability, e.g., regarding asbestos, Agent Orange, and thimerosal in vaccines.
  • "We're never going to say that vaccines cause autism. All we're going to do ... is craft a narrative that will confuse people." — Mary Holland summarizing [36:52]

Measles Panel—Re-examining Outbreak Narratives

• Medical Records Review: Dr. Pierre Corey and Dr. Ben Edwards (Defender of the Year Awardee) reviewed child measles fatalities in Texas, asserting the deaths were due to medical error, not measles itself.
  • "They did not die of measles. They died of medical error and medical malpractice." — Michael Kane [39:45]
• Reports of discrimination against unvaccinated families by healthcare institutions were highlighted as emblematic of broader medical bias and system failures. [40:27-43:21]

5. Activism, Community Building, and CHD’s Mission

CHD’s Four Pillars

• Education, Advocacy, Science, Litigation
• The organization’s focus is reducing chronic childhood disease, providing informational resources and legal actions to uphold medical choice and informed consent.
  • “A healthy child has a thousand dreams, but a sick child has but one.” — Quoting Secretary Kennedy [46:15]

Current National Advocacy

• GRACE Act: Would tie federal education funding to respect for vaccination religious exemptions.
  • "We have this federal opportunity ... the Grace Act would guarantee the right to a religious exemption to vaccination." — Michael Kane [48:53]
• Emphasis on joining the movement via state and federal advocacy, newsletters, and online forums.

Fostering Community

• The conference and CHD’s outreach help individuals find support and community in what can be a socially isolated stance.
  • "Oftentimes up until now, people have felt pretty alone. ... Children's Health Defense helps you find other people who feel the same way." — Mary Holland [51:05]
• Testimonials included appreciation from marginalized communities (e.g., Mennonite families affected by vaccination policy).

Conference Highlights

• Russell Brand and Cheryl Hines attended a special dinner, providing entertainment and public support for the movement and highlighting the growth of medical freedom advocacy.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|---------|-------| | 02:50 | Kevin McKernan | "PCR is a wonderful tool ... what it doesn't do very well, unless you combine it with other techniques, is tell you whether that organism is alive or dead." | | 07:06 | Kevin McKernan | "The SV40 components ... allow that vaccine to replicate inside of mammalian hosts. ... That's dangerous because it could shed, and it could never turn off." | | 10:32 | Kevin McKernan | "If you ever get a retraction, it's like a career ending move ... a conformity system." | | 13:16 | Kevin McKernan | "We think it's much more dangerous now that you have lipid nanoparticles involved ... those limits need to be changed." | | 16:24 | Kevin McKernan | "The paper highlights a deception ... there are hidden components inside these vaccines only because citizens are sequencing them on their own." | | 20:24 | Claire Dooley | "That is a crime against humanity. ... There's no other program in the world that gives women five doses of tetanus shots spread six months apart." | | 21:49 | Kevin McKernan | "Some kids will respond to CBD, some ... need THC. ... In the case of autism, they're not actually seeing that [kids get 'stoned']." | | 32:38 | Mary Holland | "[Sen. Paul] ... really articulated ... the reality of the deep state in hiding this information and ... who’s really accountable." | | 36:52 | Mary Holland | "We're never going to say that vaccines cause autism. All we're going to do ... is craft a narrative that will confuse people." | | 39:45 | Michael Kane | "They did not die of measles. They died of medical error and medical malpractice." | | 46:15 | Mary Holland | "A healthy child has a thousand dreams, but a sick child has but one." (quoting Secretary Kennedy) | | 51:05 | Mary Holland | "Oftentimes up until now, people have felt pretty alone. ... Children's Health Defense helps you find other people who feel the same way." |

Important Timestamps

• [01:24] – Introduction to genomics and Kevin McKernan's career.
• [02:50] – PCR testing and its shortcomings in pandemic response.
• [06:39] – Discovery of DNA impurities in COVID vaccines.
• [09:57] – Scientific replication and issues with peer review.
• [13:16] – Cancer risks from DNA impurities and lipid nanoparticles.
• [16:24] – Regulatory failures and calls for widespread vaccine batch testing.
• [20:24] – Fertility vaccine allegations in Africa.
• [21:49] – Role of cannabis in treating autism and epilepsy.
• [32:38] – Highlights from Rand Paul and Ron Johnson speeches.
• [36:52] – Book "Forbidden Facts" and institutional narrative critique.
• [39:45] – Measles panel: Claims medical error, not measles, caused child deaths in Texas.
• [46:15] – CHD’s mission: reducing chronic disease in children.
• [48:53] – Advocacy work, particularly the GRACE Act and federal engagement.
• [51:05] – Building community among health freedom advocates.
• [52:06] – Notable social moments, including Russell Brand and Cheryl Hines’ participation.

Tone and Language

The episode is serious, urgent, and impassioned, with a recurring motif of skepticism toward mainstream medical and regulatory narratives. There’s a strong tone of advocacy, community solidarity, and a call for greater public scrutiny and grassroots activism. The language remains technical and science-based when needed, but personal anecdotes and emotional testimonies lend a human element throughout.

Conclusion

This episode provides a rich tapestry of scientific critique, personal stories, and community activism from the front lines of the CHD Conference. Listeners are left with a sense of the magnitude and urgency of the issues discussed—from alleged regulatory failures to the need for better biomedical interventions for the most vulnerable. The call to action is clear: educate, advocate, litigate, and connect, with an emphasis on transparency, accountability, and the protection of children’s health and medical freedom.