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WarRoom Battleground EP 905: White House: EU faces “civilisational erasure” within 20 years
WarRoom Battleground EP 905: White House: EU faces “civilisational erasure” within 20 years...
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Friday, 5th of December, Anno Domini 2025. Hanwell here at the helm at Steve Bannon's war room. Well, today is really where we're going to live up to our motto of signal not noise. Something very important happened with the administration overnight and we're now going to have a special, a Friday night special breaking this down. That is the Trump administration has published a US national security strategy in which it suggests that the EU continental Europe is facing within the next 20 years, civilizational erasure. And why I say this is signal not noise, because sometimes it's easy to get distracted by talking about, oh, look at Trump, he's worrying. He's paying attention to the gilding in the Oval Office and all the rest of it, building a ballroom and all the rest of it. And these things are certainly taking place and taking energy. This, what, what has happened today, this will fundamentally, if the administration shows the discipline to follow through. And what's outlined in this document, this will change the debate fundamentally, not only obviously in the United States, but also especially perhaps here in continental Europe, which this report outlines, is a key strategic partner to the United States. That's why it's so important. That's why President Trump has published this strategic sort of review.
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Therefore, to break this down, my first guest today, someone I've known for nearly 20 years, former member of the European Parliament. I knew him when he wasn't an MEP in Brussels. Now, as a lowly parliamentary assistant, we worked very closely together in promoting the values of Christian civilization in the political sphere. Roberto Fiore, welcome on to the show. Now, Roberto, as I mentioned, was it. Hi. Hi, Roberto. Roberto is a former member of the European Parliament, as I was saying, leader of Forza Nuova, which is, and I'll say this for our American audience, it's Positioned to the right of. Of the Fratelli d', Italia, the brothers of Italy, which is the. The party of the Prime Minister Georgia Maloney, of which we have a lot to say frequently on this show.
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So I think that's a reasonable description of Fortune Nova. Roberto, welcome on onto the show.
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Now, I know that this report is breaking waves in Europe because we spoke about it earlier on today. Tell me what was your reaction to this document? And then I'm going to break down a little bit. What's why it will be of interest to the war room audience.
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Well, I think that.
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This document is particularly important. It's very topical because it touches the two essential points. One is immigration and the other one is the demographic collapse.
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These things, you can put them together, but you can also isolate them as issues. And the demographic issue is something that has not started today. In 1997, when our movement started.
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We issued eight points. One of the points was demography. We already saw then the development of a sort of.
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A culture of philosophy, but especially of a policy that. That was really targeting family as something obsolete that had to be overcome and it shouldn't be anymore. The central point of society and as a part of that, to have more children was seen as a disgrace. There was no premium or help to the families to have more children, help to the mothers, to, for instance, if they wanted to stay at home and take care of them. No, it was forbidden to talk about a salary to the males. Now the demographic issue has exploded and it's becoming something that everyone talk about it. We can just say, okay, we said it before, but we think that we should do something now. And what the administration has done yesterday, last night is of fundamental.
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Importance because he highlights two, three points. One, the demographic collapse. Two, the incredible push also in Italy, because in Italy we're having 350,000 immigrants regular coming from Bangladesh, Pakistan and Africa, which is ridiculous. No one understands what's the logic of it, but 350,000 every year. And the third issue is the diminishing of the freedom of people to speak about things. We have two laws, Mancino laws and Shelba laws that are just there to hit people who say something that the establishment doesn't like. And these two laws are alive and well with Meloni government. So this is the issue. The people are going towards the traditional. The traditional ideas that also the administration has pushed yesterday, that Vance talked about when he was in Munich. All these things are widely accepted by the normal people in Italy, but an establishment is death.
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Okay, let. Let me stop you on that point there.
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Because as I say, look, we've known one another nearly 20 years and you've been pushing these themes before they became mainstream, as it were, let's put it like that.
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And I can say with firsthand experience, the attempts to silence you when you were in the European Parliament because of your consistency on these things and like on the demographic point, by the way, your contribution to Italy's demography is well known. I think you have like a whole tribe of children.
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How many kids do you have?
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11.
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11. So that's your, that, that's, that's the, that's your single handed contribution to reversing the demographic tide.
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I cannot do it on my own.
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Of course not. Of course not. You always have an Esmeralda at your side. So you've been pushing these issues before they were popular. What I want to ask you, Roberto, and I'm very grateful that you've come on the show today, is it was easy for the European establishment in Brussels and also in Italy, even from supposedly right wing groupings like the Fratelli d', Italia, to isolate you and say, this guy is an extremist, he doesn't represent anyone. In fact, you've just had your full mandate that you've been pushing for decades, pretty much word for word endorsed by the Trump administration. How important is this going to be to you making these arguments here in Italy and with your allied, because you're also president of the alliance for Peace and Freedom, which is the European networking of allied movements across continental Europe. How important do you think this is going to be? Because this is what the administration has published with this national security strategy, is what we've been crying out for really since Trump descended the golden escalator in 2015, which is a serious concerted sort of extension of help for what we're trying to do here in Europe and a massive sign of credibility and authority for the arguments that we've been making. Right?
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This is it. What is coming from America. It's something that was fairly unexpected, okay? We saw things happening, we followed what happened, what's happening with the Maga movement and so on. But a so stuck pronunciation, a so stuck statement, to talk about the erasure of civilization, to talk about an imminent collapse of civilization is something very, very important. Because first things the administration can say, look, we have done what we were, what we had the duty to do. Okay? That's the first point. Now it's for the politician to say, well, this is rubbish, or to say, well, this is true. We've Got to do something. Now I am the first one that can say easily and.
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With some ideas to surround the sort of the entire opinion that we can still do something. The first thing I would say is especially connected to the role of women.
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If the women have children, it is important the states help them to take care of children. We cannot have women having one child or child and a half then to go to work and then to have a nanny or a nurse to come and to help the children. It doesn't make any sense. We need to have proper wages for the women in order to.
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Give strength to the family. That's the first thing. The other thing I would do we have got a lot of Italians who are for instance in Venezuela who cannot stand Maduro, who want to come back. We have got 2 million people, 200,000 Italians. Well we should tell me come back here because if the gap between birth and death is like today, 370,000 births and 770,000 deaths. Look, it's a disaster. It just counted the years until the collapse. So we've got to do something immediate. The thing we can do immediate is to welcome the Italians. We got 100 million Italians in the world to welcome the Italian backs and not to have flux of people coming from Pakistan, Pakistan or Bangladesh countries that got nothing to do with Italy to come in hundred thousand every year. This is just crazy. And this is something that has been told very clearly by the Trump administration today.
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Roberta, stay with us. I'm going to have a quick word mention of some of the show's sponsors when we come back. After that I am going to ask you for your take on what we were discussing this morning which is the full frontal assault. As you were saying at the beginning, Roberta, you were saying about JD Vance's speech to the Munich Security Conference. Those themes are taken front and center in this 33 page document and it really does illustrate the degree to which the European Union as an institution is is the key threat on Europeans civil liberties such as free speech and what have you. Robert, I'll ask you if your take on that point as well. But first of all let me just quickly mention as I always do at this point in the show, Birchgold.
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Vice President Vance said something very important about the attack to freedoms in United Kingdom. The fact that anti abortionist activists were taken into prison for having prayed outside, for having silently prayed outside abortion clinics. Okay, this is something that obviously hit the imagination of many people. People can't believe it, but is something happening? And the two issues that are particularly relevant for.
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The establishment that is trying to.
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Erase freedom are immigration and abortion in Italy has been particularly strong. The attack on the freedom to speak about immigration because to say something about.
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The flow of immigrants, to say something about the fact that the nature of the Italian people is changing, to say the fact that, for instance, in certain areas there is an arrogant, arrogance group of people who actually made their own laws and pushed the Italian way from crucial areas near the stations or doing things like that. Arrogant and violent to say these things, to denounce these things. You risk to have a case.
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To go to prison or to be sentenced. Don't forget that in Italy you have a system. Basically you have an entire generation of magistrates or prosecutors that come from the extreme left. And they are particularly concentrating in reducing the freedom of normal people, and especially of nationalists and patriots who actually believe that everyone should say what he thinks. And the soul of the people, the freedom of the people in speaking the truth or what they think is the truth, is essential to respect the freedom. So Vance.
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Speech in Munich and the declaration today of the administration are extremely relevant for us to fight this sort of Orwellian establishment that is taking over all over Western Europe.
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Roberto, we have about five minutes left of this.
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And there is something I. I really must ask you. Let me quote again from this strategic review. It says America encourages its political allies in Europe to promote this revival of spirit. And the growing influence of patriotic European parties indeed gives cause for great optimism. Now, I want to inject a word of caution here because whilst there's definitely a patriotic sort of revival taking place, a nationalist revival taking place, what is also taking place on the back of that is a lot of performative theatrics from center right politicians who aren't even center right, their globalist Uni party pretending to be right wing and center right or even nationalist when they're not remotely. It's just. It's just they're saying the words. We know we see this every day here in Italy. They say the words, but there's zero action behind that. And I would Obviously urge the.
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Trump administration, as I, as it rolls through.
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And following through on this agenda, to be extremely cautious when it's talking about European allies, because not everyone who schleps over to the White House is an ally of President Trump or his agenda. There are two things in this report, I think, that make that absolutely clear, and that's the relationship with Russia and the war in Ukraine. And I know, I think pretty much Forza Nuova is probably the only political party on the right that has a coherent view on both of these. Would you just sort of, to our largely American audience, Roberto, would you just say what your view is regarding to what for Sanova's view is with regards to the war in Ukraine, which you've maintained right from the beginning, and also the appropriate relationship that Italy and all Western countries like the UK and America as well, should try to pursue with Russia.
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Since the beginning, we have taken up a very clear line. There should be no war, no brothers wars, because those people are brothers, Ukrainians and Russians. You could argue that Ukrainians are Russian. You say, no, maybe they're not Russia, but they're still. They're brothers. And that war has been engineered in certain circles in Europe and I'm afraid to say, into the Biden circle. The administration and the Secretary of State before, at the time of Biden, Nuland, had very much to do with the beginning of the war in that area. We think that Russia plays a prominent role. Russia is not anymore a Marxist country. Russia is a Christian, Orthodox and nationalist country that should be part of Europe. This is the essential point. It's a very simple change of, how can I say, change of actors. Europe can be strong again with Russia that not just European and Russia. I wouldn't define or wouldn't divide Russia in Asiatic and European. We should consider Russia until the bearing, the bearing point near you, near Alaska. So Europe has to be part of the same continent of Russia and Ukraine. So this is the starting point. There is no point in buying huge amount of weapons.
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To have an escalation in sort of.
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Towards a war. There's no point in having that. We should have a policy of peace, to have Christianity, Christendom, I would say more than that. Christendom at the center of the policy, which is something that has been avoided since 1945. Since 1945, the establishment has going towards a sort of liberal position that undermines tradition, family, God and so on. Now there is a revival of these points. And the end of the road is going to be a Christian Europe that starts from Portugal and ends up to Alaska, obviously not including Alaska, but until that point. So this is the major change that is taking place and it seems to me that the American administration is taking the point and is actually destroying in this way the sort of liberal, how can I say, the liberal fortress that had New York at its center, that had the sort of liberal Americanismatic center. Well, this is not anymore the case. America has changed and Europe has to follow very quickly. Otherwise we are, we are going to go to the, to destruct, to self destruction.
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Roberto, I'm very, very delighted that you've come on to the show today.
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And now that the administration is leading the way on this point and I particularly look, this is one of the most important documents I've seen come out of this of either of the Trump administrations. And what is so key about it is even when talking about the decline in the European Union.
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This strategy here is identifying the cultural aspects as being more important than the economic aspects, which is absolutely spot on. And this is going to give a great help.
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This is going to give a great help. Roberto. I think it's a cultural revolution. A correction. A cultural correction. In the meantime, Roberto, before we get to bring you back on the show, where do people go in social media to learn more about forts and rather than the alliance for Peace and Freedom and keep up with your activities on the Italian political scene, which I can't compliment more highly enough.
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Well, I have to say that Mr. Zuckerberg and others have sort of erased us from the social community. We haven't got, we can't have anymore. This is part of the infringement of our liberties. We haven't got any more Facebook, it's prohibited to us. We have got very little in terms of, of social.
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Social. We've got telegram, we've got Instagram, we've got.
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We got for Fahrenheit. We've got more, more presence because it's not for, it's not called for Sonova. But the situation is basically is what you, the address you have been given before.
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Which is Fahrenheit, which is our.
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Online journal which is continually, continually all to do to following what is happening in in, in America quite closely. And telegram and Instagram for what regards Forza Nova.
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That's Telegram Forza Nova FN and Roberto Fiore underscore fn. I'm gonna get those out on social media as well. Roberto, thanks for coming on the show. Very grateful for your time. We'll catch up again with you soon, folks. We'll be back in two minutes after this short break.
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Welcome back. Well, my guest for the second half of this show is Vadim Dirksen, who's the senior editor of Junger Freiheit, a newspaper Very much in the AFD ambit. And we've had Vadim on the show before and we wanted to talk to him, we wanted to bring him back on and talk him, talk to him about these protests.
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That have broken out.
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In Germany just a couple of days ago. Before we do that, Vadim, I'd like to ask you for your take on the, on this strategic report that came out from the US administration overnight indicating that Europe is 20 years away from civilizational erasure. This is obviously something that the AfD have also been saying, but give me your take on this. Will. This will the fact that the administration has pushed out this document, which is something we desperately wanted to see from them, from the administration on the, on this side of the Atlantic. The fact that they've taken this theme and pushed this out. Do you think is this going to help what we're doing here in continental Europe?
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Absolutely. I hope this is actually a wake up call for the, for the politicians who are in charge right now in Germany.
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I hope it's going to help the right wing parties in Europe particular to push the agenda towards a more right and conservative.
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Politic agenda. In Germany and all the other countries in Europe, we see a massive decline in birth rates in the, let's say.
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In the original population in Germany. We have a massive migration crisis still going on which is basically replacing the majority population here in Germany. And we need, we need to stop that. We need, we need to.
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Get a right, maybe a wake up call even from the US President here in Europe.
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And it's very much obviously the President, President Trump is putting his name to this. But it's very much, I think, a reiteration of the themes that Vice President J.D. vance issued in, in the Munich Security Conference, which really shocked, I think that the, the European Union as an institution, that the, that the administration, the US Administration was actually going to be concentrating on this and this strategic document has very much institutionalized now those, those concerns. And I think, you know, I, I can't thank, as someone who's been pushing this on this side of the Atlantic, I cannot thank the administration more.
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Than what they've done pushing out this document. It is one of the most important things I've seen basically.
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I think that the old politician elite in Europe, the old elite is not used to these harsh words which are now taking place from the US Administration, as you mentioned also JD Bands and so on. They are not used to these stark words used against them. And I hope that will shake them, shake them up and move to some changes in the politics. Well, we see a decline of the old parties in the last polls. Also in Germany, AFD is building up a bigger gap between the ruling party of the CDU of Merz. So the people are fed up with the empty words, empty promises they see here constantly and the act like lies, like lies. Not, not just empty promises, but they lie their people into their face. And this is something what needs to end because we have a big issue. Our, our in this industry is going down. We have high energy prices. We have a crisis in the country where the people are very depressed and we need to change that. Yeah.
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I think one of the consequences of this strategic review is that it's going to be much more difficult for the German state to suppress the AFD as it tried to do with the AfD's youth wing. And that's the point. Let's use that now as an opportunity to, to move on to that.
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So what happened in Giessen just a few days ago was that demonstrators as the new revived, resurrected youth wing of the AfD was being launched. The left had organized these protests which blocked I think 16 points of entry, 16 streets to the conference venue where they were expecting some 50,000 AfD youth to join. By Vadim, by the way, by the way. 6 Blocking A. Shutting down a city like that by blocking the 16 main arteries. As far as I'm concerned, that is something that a loose alliance called Resist would not be able to do by itself. I would suggest.
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Though I don't have hard evidence for it, that the German state intelligence services were infiltrating and assisting in the shutdown. Before you take off on that point, let's just look at the, look at some of the views of what was happening and I'll come back and check your reaction.
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Thousands of demonstrators gathered in the German city of Giessen to protest against the launch of a new youth organization of the far right Alternative for Germany Party, also known as the AfD.
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Groups of protesters blocked or tried to block roads in and around the city city, delaying the arrival of many delegates to the convention center. As a result, the event had to be postponed by a few hours.
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So tell me, Vadim, was this something that was loosely organized by an association of, of the left political groups or do you think it was more centrally coordinated?
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Let me get you the, the whole picture of that first.
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The last time we had a demonstration of this magnitude was perhaps at the party conference of the AfD in Stuttgart ten years ago. And the protests actually have declined in the recent years. They peaked Maybe in the protest surrounding the so called Potsdam secret meeting just under three years ago. But this time we witnessed a perfectly organized protest action. There was massive mobilization, bus trips were paid from all major cities in Germany. Students group have been calling for people to join in WhatsApp groups for weeks. They themselves announced up to 50,000 demonstrators. In the end there were only 25,000. But they were all even more motivated to prevent the founding congress of the EFT youth organization.
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On site. The protest was organized in such a way that all the routes, as you mentioned before, to the hall were blocked. This was done through sitting blockades, barricades made of tree trunks or torn out street signs. I was there, I was witnessing it, how it worked. And I was wondering why even these tree trunks were placed there prior a few days, maybe a few weeks. We were told they were just placed there a few weeks on strategic points of the roads.
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As we as journalists, we were well informed about the location of the next blockade through the antifa telegram group. So they were organized in telegram groups and as a result we arrived even before the police to these blocks. This also shows that the police were completely overwhelmed by the protest, although they actually expected more people to come. So one question which rises now is was the they're not enough police or was it maybe planned to give it a loose and let the people protect it?
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Vadim, just very quickly, what do you mean by that? That they expected more people to come? You mean they expected more counter protesters to try to shoot what you're doing down?
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Because the protesters, they said that they expect about 50,000 people to arrive in Giessen. In the end the Police counted about 25,000. We have like the protest groups, you can, they can be divided into different camps. Let's say the ordinary left wing students or some union members or groups such as Grandmas against the Right.
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And this is the so called middle class section. They were predominantly white and affluent middle class. Then there were this hard violent core who used violence at the slightest protest against it. So they were mostly completely masked with.
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Backlit lovers and distinctive colors like purple or black. So they could quickly identify each other. And as soon as there was some riots going on or so they identified someone from the AfD. They just surrounded him, beat him up or just push them out of the the group or whatever. Like this.
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B
Yeah, I'm going to come back to you in two minutes. Yeah, I'm going to come back to you in two minutes, Fadim, and ask you about the Bundestag deputy Janine Vissler from the left saying that the AfD is not a normal party and what is intended by that kind of criticism. Before I do that, I mentioned Birch gold in the first half of the show. Folks, you know the drill. It's you need to text Bannon to 989-898-B a n o n to 989898. I repeat, the they're doing a special offer right now where you order $5,000 worth of gold before December 23rd. They will give you a free ounce of silver, which is certainly something you want to be considering. And also I must quickly mention Tax Network USA who have their special end of the year offer. So if you owe back taxes or if you haven't filed in years, now is the time to resolve these tax matters. With the national conversation around abolishing the income tax system, the IRS is fighting back and proving it's here to stay by becoming more aggressive than ever before. They're sending out more collection notices, filling more tax liens and collecting billions more than in recent years. So if you owe, the IRS can garnish your wages and levy your bank account, seize your retirement and even your home. And if you haven't filed yet, it's not a question of if the IRS will act its way. So right now Tax Network USA is offering a completely free IRS research and discovery call to show you exactly where you stand and what they can do to stop before it's too late. Their powerful programs and strategies can save you thousands of or even eliminate your debt entirely if you qualify. Don't make a costly mistake representing yourself or calling the IRS on your own waives your rights and cost you more money. They are not on your side. Get protected the right way with Tax Network USA and start the process of settling your tax matters once and for all today. Call 1-800-958-1000, that's 1-800-958- 1000 or visit tnusa.com bannon and for your free discovery call with Tax Network USA, don't let the IRS be the first to act. Back now to Vadim Dirksen. Vadim, we've got about five minutes left of the show. Just tell me if you wouldn't mind about this. What? This. This left wing Member of Parliament Janina Vissler said when she's saying that the AFD is not a normal party and therefore justifying the the suppression of AFD youth to be able to get together and, and have a congress, what is she really signaling by that? Is it not the case that she's joining in with Certain calls that German intelligence and the German state and the court should suppress the AFD totally. Is that, is that not the scope? And is that not, is that not fascist?
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D
Yeah, well, this is the point. Do you know what the Left Party is in Germany? The Left Party which she's member of. It is the successor party of the SED party which ruled in the gdr. These are communists. And this party now sits in the parliament on the far left side. And they are the ones who cooperate with the CDU and Mertz. Like today. Today they even help to get past a law with the help of the Left Party. Mertz made this law pass. And imagine just how.
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The political compass in the country has shifted to the left. Mertz is more willing to work with the GDR party than with the AfD, which actually consists of former CDU members. And of course for this kind of leftist Communist party member. The AfD is not a normal party. We know that from the history. They are used to put their political opponents into the prison, even to kill them. So the. No wonder she's talking as she's talking right now.
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B
This is really why the, at this time the US national security strategy is so important. Right. Because Mertz might be trying to work with the German state, with the German judiciary to suppress the AfD, which is, which is what they were trying to do right up until recently. They were trying to, to suppress totally one of the largest political parties in Germany. Do you think now that this national security strategy indicates to the German state Exactly. That the U.S. administration is watching what's going on and dropping the situation about NATO, the future of NATO there, which the strategy does do to try to let the German state not go too far in these total. Absolutely against af.
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D
You're right. We have a country in a situation which is dangerous for the Allies at this point. I would say on many levels we have security problems as, as a member of the NATO we, we have not a strong army because we have such a war against our, our, our military inside of our country. Then we have a mass.
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Impact on. We share our German citizenship or we give it out to migrants which came into the country maybe a few years ago. And we are throwing away the German citizenship which is one of the strongest in the world. If you have the German citizenship, you can travel in one of the most countries without any visa. So this is also a security issue for all the partner countries where we can travel visa free as. And also to the United States. So this is an actual threat to the international community, which is Germany. Part of the Western community. And we have to.
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Be thankful to Trump and the administration that they are pointing on these issues and bringing them up. I hope this is going to change quickly as possible and we have a shift back to the normal. Not to the right, but to the normal. That's what the people think is normal, should be. Again, the policy of this country.
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B
Just in the final two minutes of the show. Could you give me 60 seconds and just explain very quickly what the issue was with the AFD youth wing. Why, why. Why the switch of parties? What that. What that was about?
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D
Why do you. They had to reorganize the. The youth. The problem is the. The youth was organized as a separate organization. It was not connected to the party itself. So you could become easily a member of the youth organization. But not being a youth member, me being a member of the party. That means the party itself could not control which people, what people, what kind of people would enter the youth organization. But still the youth organization had influence on the party. And this is something messed up. So now what they changed is that every youth member of or the member of the youth organization has to be member of the party. And there's a big control. The problem is our rules regarding the parties. Not everyone can enter the. It's easy to get into the party, but it's very hard to get someone who's extreme out of the party by law. So you have to be very careful to see what kind of people you bring in in order to make sure that they don't cause any problems if they're too extremist and so on. Or maybe even from the. From the government. Let's say that if there's someone, you cannot get them easily out. That's the thing.
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B
I'm glad you've outlined it because I've read different explanations in the press, but I just wanted to hear it from you what the issue was. Vadim Dirksen, thanks as always for coming on the show. Senior editor of Younger Freiheit where can people go on the Internet to keep up with the. The superb work that you're publishing out there?
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D
Junglefreiheit.de this is our website and you find me on socials like Xealderksen. Yeah, that's it.
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B
That's. That's perfect. And the. The Internet is. Obviously you can. You can follow those articles. Click on the translation button on your browser and just follow everything. Very few Western or English speaking journals are going to explain to you exactly how things are. Vadim Dirksen, very grateful as always. That you came on to the show to explain what these protests were all about. We'll catch up again with you soon, folks. That it? That's the end of the show. All we have time for today. We'll be back. I'll be back on Wednesday, God willing with our Christian roundup back on Friday for the in depth interview that leads me to thank Will and his superb team as always in Denver, Real America's Voice and of course Vittorio Franki who's helping behind the scenes put this show together. Thanks to you both very much indeed. God bless you.
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A
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