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WarRoom Battleground EP 918: Ben Harnwell Interview With Petr Bystron MEP (AfD, Germany)
WarRoom Battleground EP 918: Ben Harnwell Interview With Petr Bystron MEP (AfD, Germany)...
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Stephen K. Bannon
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Peter Bystran
His red glare the bombs bursting air Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there O say the Zar spangled banner.
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Show Host / Interviewer
Welcome Harnwell here at the helm on Steve Bannon's War Room. That footage was recorded by the War Room's favorite member of the European Parliament for the AfD, the Alternative for Deutschland, Peter Beistran, who joins us again today. Peter, thanks for coming on the show. So how explain to us, how did it happen? How are you recording the American national anthem? Where have you been this week?
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Peter Bystran
Well, this recording is coming from New York, from the gala of the Young Republicans. It was a fantastic event. You saw it. Many, many people there, not only from New York, but also a huge delegation, AFD from Germany, huge delegation, Fidesh from Hungary. There were also friends from Lega Italy, others from Serbia and others. Really a magnificent.
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Show Host / Interviewer
And did you, did you speak?
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Peter Bystran
Yes. There was a representative of the AfD, Marcus Schromeer, who is now in charge as a foreign policy speaker in the German Bundestago, which I was for four years before. And he had a very nice speech. You received even an award from the Young Republicans. So we were really present as afd. Yeah.
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Show Host / Interviewer
Now, I know one of the things that you've been following over the last couple of weeks as closely as we have here on the War Room is the US National Security strategy. And one of the things looking at that document that some people were calling for is a stronger relationship between the US administration, the Trump administration, and political parties here in continental Europe that have a natural affinity towards what Donald Trump is trying to do. And of course, the AfD is in pride of place amongst that. When you were there in, in New York, do you get the feeling now that something is changing and that the Trump administration is really in the final three years of this mandate is looking to construct a proper serious working relationship with his natural allies here in Europe.
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Peter Bystran
Are you serious? We were not talking about anything else than the security strategy of the United States and not only in New York. I mean, the New York allied was just a loss of many meetings I had. I was the whole week in the United States and the first days I have been in Washington D.C. i talked to a congressman, a representative of the Trump administration and well, of course the new security strategy of the United States. It was the ground for all those talks. Look, this document is changing the world and it's fixing in a new way the relationship between Europe and the United States. And it caused also a huge around the mainstream media and Germany especially because for the first time the Trump administration publicly admit that Trump and his people are going to support conservative parties like the AfD in Germany.
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Show Host / Interviewer
I saw one of the photos that was up on the screen just a few moments ago. I think was you and Ed Martin. How did that go?
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Peter Bystran
Well, this is Ed Martin is one of my meetings with the Trump administration. It is the Department of Justice. And we had several talking points. You know, on one side we are very interested in what the US Government is doing with the investigation of the weaponization of justice against the opposition. We are facing the same threat in Europe. You are talking to a guy who had 27 home searching on myself, on my friends, in my surrounding, in my case. And there are many, many others. There are people like David Bendels, the chief editor of Deutschland Courier, who just got seven months in prison sentence in a trial just because his magazine published a meme with the interior minister holding up a piece of paper saying I hate freedom of expression. And I mean, besides that, that's true. It's just a meme, you know, and this is absolutely unlawful to charge a chief editor of a magazine for this. This is breaking our constitution. This is violation of everything what used to be European values in the past. And there are only. There are many other examples like this. So we exchange on this and how to how to handle it. And we strongly we are now we decided that we will do also investigations parliamentarian investig delegations, as the U.S. government is doing in the U.S. so we will do it in the European Parliament, we will do it in the German Parliament. And this will be the start of parliamentarian investigation on those cases. And on the other side. And this is really very important also the Department of Justice were very interesting on the results of our work of our investigations in Europe because we discovered that the European Union is heavily financing Americans NGO, US NGOs. And this I can explain on two cases. The first case is the NGO called OCCRP. And quite nobody knows it, but it's very influential. The Boss of this NGO, Mr. Sullivan, he stated in front of TV cameras that his organization is responsible for regime changes in five or maybe six countries. He wasn't sure if it's five or six, but he was sure that his organization is responsible for that. And knowing this, I just have to add this. The OCCRP members are the biggest publishing houses in Europe and they had been secretly financed through the OCCRP over decades from a U.S. budget. And they received information, most likely from secret services, and they were not allowed to disclose this source of information. And they were even not allowed to disclose that they are financed from the United States. And Donald Trump stopped the financing of this NGO through the USAID. And guess what? The European Union paid them €600,000 just right after the election for the European Parliament. And for what? The members of occrp, those the biggest publishing houses in Germany, for example, or Sudoit on a B side. Those are exactly those media who were running the biggest blackmailing campaigns against all EU critics running in those EU elections. The media who blackmailed EU critics received €600,000 right after the election.
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Show Host / Interviewer
Peter, let me just if I may clarify what you said, because that's really explosive, right? If I've understood this correctly, you're saying that U.S. taxpayers money has been funneled via U.S. aid to the European Union to the mainstream media, German mainstream media press, to run combative anti AFD articles in Germany before the last German election, and the money from the dollars arrived just after the election. So it's a clear bribery. And let me just before you answer that, it seems very similar to me to the fact that it just emerged that via again USAID, they bribed Time magazine $4 million, if I've understood this correctly, to name Zelensky man of the Year, which is astonishing. Now you have a lot of people saying, oh, it's outrageous that President Trump has suppressed this is doing loads of good work saving lives in Africa and all the rest of it. And perhaps some of that is true, but the word really needs to get out, especially to the American audience, to American taxpayers, that in addition to the good work, that's just simply a pretext, the actual motivations for President Trump sort of suppressing this is what's going on sort of off radar behind the scenes. So please clarify that. Peter Beistrand, you're a senior member of the European Parliament. You spent eight years in the German Parliament. You understand how these things work. Can you confirm for me that I understood you correctly? US taxpayers money was being funneled to via USAID into German media to run anti AFD articles before the last election. Have I understood that right? That is explosive.
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Peter Bystran
Well, you got it right. But it was even worse. Because it's not just about German media blackmailing the AfD. It's about European media blackmailing all the EU critics. And it's about massive election fraud. It's about massive manipulation of the elections. So we can prove that the last two elections for the European Parliament had been manipulated by massive campaigning of the OCCRP media. Give me an example. This is interesting to dip in into it, how it happened. The last election for the European Parliament was influenced by the so called Ibiza affair. And how did it come? There was a villa on the Spanish island of Ibiza which was rented. And then cameras, hidden cameras were implemented into it and microphones. And the head of the FBO party at that time, Hans Christian Strachter, was invited there. And he had talks with the woman, she was also renting. And she pretended she's a Russian billionaire and she would like to finance the party and so on. And they had talks. Six hours of talks were recorded. Strache did nothing illegal. He always said, okay, we can work together, but it has to be legal. But they created this material. Six hours, they put it somewhere and they waited two years. And then two years later, just 10 days before the election for the European Parliament, OCCRP media started a scandal. They published just six minutes, manipulated six minutes of this recording. And they said, this is a scandal, there was a corruption, blah, blah, blah. They put down the FPO party from 28% down to 17.5. So nearly 10% minus the government felt apart. And the election was heavily manipulated. You see, the results of the election would be completely different. And those were two German media, Der Spiegel and Sudo Seidel, who started this campaign. Strache won all trials afterwards because he sued everybody who he could. He won everything. But it didn't help him, because the election was over. The results were manipulated. He lost his government.
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Show Host / Interviewer
Peter. Peter, Standby. We'll pick this point up because very important in two minutes time. After this short break.
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Peter Bystran
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Stephen K. Bannon
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Show Host / Interviewer
Welcome back. I just want to put the context to what Peter puts by was saying before the break because this is so important. You have the idea in America that money being spent by USAID around the world is working towards eliminating malaria in Africa and that sort of thing. And some of that money is doing that. But it is also being used to subvert the democratic process here in continental Europe and specifically to campaign against, to work against maga's natural allies in continental Europe at election time. Now, Peter Bison, come back in there and finish this point. Because my memory of this then is that the Ibiza Non scandal, which effectively, I think if memory serves me correctly, destroyed the political career of the then Chancellor Sebastian Kurtz. And you were saying, it hit the FPO very badly in the elections. Now, the fpo, the Austrian Freedom Party, is massively anti invasion like the AfD, it's natural sister party of the AfD. The AfD is in Germany. The FPO is in Austria. And that scandal, inverted commas, that manufactured synthetic scandal worked to just destroy the political momentum of a natural MAGA partner in continental Europe. And Americans don't know this. American taxpayers don't know this because the American media is misrepresenting the truth to them, doing what the mainstream media does. Naturally, it keeps you unaware of what you don't know and misinformed about what you do know. Peter Bison, please continue this point because it's important to know that when President Trump moves to suppress US Aid, it's not because he wants small African kids to die of malaria. It's because that is an agency that is out of control in the United States, not only acting with US Taxpayers money to manipulate elections on continental Europe, but it's also, as we mentioned just before, being used to create pro Zelensky propaganda. As I say, $4 million is the figure I've seen quoted in the press to bribe Time magazine to make Zelenskyy their man of the year. And we'll talk about Ukraine because there have been important developments. We'll talk about Ukraine in a moment. But please just finish this point because it is so important and what President Trump is doing now not only with the suppression of US aid, but also with the US national security strategy. This is so important and it is what we hear in continental Europe. Peter, bystand what we have been crying out for from this administration and it's now following through. Right? Yeah.
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Peter Bystran
Look, I think the era of mass migration is over.
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Show Host / Interviewer
Yeah.
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Peter Bystran
And you said it. Your natural partners In Europe we AFD are the freedoms decades, you know, the last 10 years since 2015, very intensively. And at that time, the Freedom Party was.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Government.
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Peter Bystran
And they were saying as well, the era of mass migration is over. As. As Donald Trump is saying it now. They were even doing it. You know, they. And that time in the U.S. the official U.S. security strategy was stating the total opposite. It said, we have to promote migration, we should organize, and so on and so on. So they were really pushing for migration. And now imagine what for American taxpayers money. And it went through the USAID. They finance regime changes and blackmailing of those natural MAGA allies. And it was, I think J.D. wentz who said only 17% of the USAID money went for the. What you said, the little black kids in Africa and, and you know, so they don't get malaria. But the other 83% were used for regime changes, manipulation of election and so on and so on. And it happened even at the last European election. And I know it because I was target of it, one of the targets. And it was again with the same pattern. Some secret services created a blackmail material like then in Ibiza. This time it was called Voice of Europe.
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Show Host / Interviewer
And.
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Peter Bystran
And they said there is a website in Prague created by Ukrainian refugees. And this website is a tool of Putin's propaganda and it will influence the Russians and the election to the European Parliament. And so let those be clear.
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Show Host / Interviewer
Let's be clear, Peter. What they're doing is the very thing, and this always takes place, the very thing that they're accusing you of, that you're not doing, is what they are doing themselves.
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Peter Bystran
You hit the nail. This is absolutely what they are doing. Yeah, in our case it was that they created a blackmailing campaign. They said they have a secret service material, like with Ibiza, but this time they even didn't show it. No one ever saw this secret service material. But they accused, they accused the website which was created by Ukrainian refugees in Prague, called Voice of Europe. They said, oh, this website was a tool of Putin's propaganda. And through this website, the whole elections to the European Parliament across all Europe should be manipulated. And in addition to that, many politicians who gave an interview to this website they had been bribed by Putin. They received millions of euro in cash. I mean, this sounds already stupid, but one Czech journalist, he, he was just proving this, you know, and he looked on the website and said, wait a second, wait a second. How a website of Ukrainian refugees which has like five likes on YouTube for, for their videos, how can they influence the whole election in the Czech Republic? But this question, this work was not done by the OCCRP media, the biggest media houses across Europe, they were spreading this fake news. They did over 250 articles only about me in Germany and more other in other countries on colleagues of mine who are also EU critical and who were against the war in Ukraine. So they blackmailed us weeks before the election to the European Parliament. And it had a really tremendous effect. It push us down. And some of those colleagues, like a colleague in Netherlands, he even didn't pass to the European Parliament because he was pushed under the 5% level. So again, the majorities in the current European Parliament were heavily manipulated by media campaigns done by OCCRP media.
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Show Host / Interviewer
Let me ask you this, Peter. We've got like two minutes before the break, so it'll be a quick question, quick answer. But the largest aid agency in the world isn't the American one. It's the one run by the European Union. That's the European Overseas Development Budgets. The largest aid dispersal of aid in the world is there. Following your conversations with the US Administration and President Trump's heroic suppression of US Aid, is there any movement now, or are you in a position in the European Parliament now to suppress the European Union's development aid budget in the same way that President Trump has done in the United States for the same reason? No way.
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Peter Bystran
We don't have the majorities for that. We can only discover what they have done, what they have paid, what they have financed. We can follow the money and we are doing it due to the manipulated majorities in the European Parliament. We can do it. But this is the point. If the election wasn't manipulated, if the election wasn't stolen, we would have the majority maybe, you know, and then the things would look completely in a different way.
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Show Host / Interviewer
It's important, I think, for our American audience to realize that in exactly the same way the presidential election, President Trump's second victory in 2020, was stolen in exactly the same way. The same people were involved in putting their thumb on the scale in the European Union for the same reasons as well. Only the problem is that now they're not going to get away with it any anymore because President Trump has won in 2024 and now he's sort of not only in the United States, but also in the European Union moving to stop these outrages against democracy from taking place again, folks. We'll continue this theme in two minutes after this short break.
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Show Host / Interviewer
Welcome back. Before we pick up on this theme with Peter Bystrom, just want a quick shout out to Birch Gold. Philip Patrick and his team are standing by still even over this Christmas New year holiday period for your call and why? Because if you text a Bannon to 989-898 they will be there and I think they're still running their special offer right now which is if you spend $5,000 get a purchase of $5,000 in gold, they will roll in a free ounce of silver in with that offer. That's, that's a time limited offer. It is going to end soon. Take advantage of it now before the time runs out. Birch Gold text Bannon to 989-898 and Philip Patrick and his team will be there on hand to give you advice on how you might want to roll an existing IRA or 401k into an IRA in gold. Back on with the show then, with Peter Bystran. So we were saying just before the break that I think one of the consequences of the, the positive consequences of Trump's third victory in 2024 is that he's now able to redress some of the, of the actions of the American deep state, which is trying to, has been trying successfully to alter the outcome of elections here in continental Europe. Peter Bystran, from your perch there in the European Parliament, do you not think it is strange that the very paladins who have Launched how many? 20. 24 home invasions. 27. They've invaded your home 27 times because they say you are anti democratic. Is it not strange to you that the very people who are doing this themselves are involved in the anti democratic undermining of actual election victories and using American taxpayer money to pervert the course of the democratic process? Is that not, does that not strike you somewhat as ironic?
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Peter Bystran
Well, sure it is. This is the classical, yeah, that's, It's Orwell, Orwell 2.0. We say in Germany, you know, and of course, those people implemented laws in Germany against the opposition which are saying, like they're called laws against the, the legitimation of the state. So if you're criticizing their bad governance, they are saying they are not that we are not criticizing them, but we would legitimate the state, the whole state, you know, but in fact, they are legitimating the state, the whole constitution and everything that they're doing. This is exactly what they do. And the nice thing is that Trump experienced the same when he was not in power and now he learned the lesson. And the Trump administration is very, very straight in defeating this misbehavior within the state. And that this is what lets us back to the national security strategy. One of those points which are stated there is the protection of core rights and liberties. And the United States says, of course, we are a country of the free, but there is also a very nice sentence towards the rest of the world, towards European Union, and I would like to quote it, we will oppose elite driven anti democratic restriction on core liberties in Europe. And this is exactly what hits our enemies most. They see that we have the support of Donald Trump, of his government, and this is what created the panic around our Visit in Washington, D.C. and in New York.
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Show Host / Interviewer
Now, tell me about that, because you were part of that delegation, the AfD delegation over to America last week. Tell me about that. Tell me more about the meetings that you had because you were saying earlier how you meant Met with Ed Martin and followers of the war with more. Know that Ed Martin's a great guy. And you also went, I think, to the New York Stock Exchange and what have you. Tell me, as far as you are able to say publicly, what are you specifically asking for from the US Administration that as to how they can put the national security strategy into practice? Tell us, as I say, as far as you're able to talk publicly about this. And as you intimating just a moment or so ago, this is why the European establishment is now sort of absolutely terrified of this growing relationship between the AfD and the Trump administration, right? They're absolutely terrified.
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Peter Bystran
Yeah. Yeah, of course. Because, you know, we are facing tremendous oppression of the opposition within Germany, within the European Union, since years. There are cases you wouldn't believe. You know, there was a guy called Mikhail Balovik, he was the leader of the opposition during the Corona times. He was organizing demonstration against the government which were absolutely peaceful, absolutely democratic. It's all covered through our constitution. But guess what? The German government put him into jail for nine months. Just imagine, for nine months without a trial. There was no trial, no judge. They put him just under arrest and they prolonged it, and then they made six months out of it. And afterwards, nine months, the guy spent nine months in jail. And at the end it comes out that he's completely innocent. Of course he was. But this way they cut off the head of the whole opposition, of the street opposition during the Corona time. And, you know, if something like this would happen in Russia, you would see it on every news, on CNN every evening, like dictator Putin put some oppos guy into jail with all the trial, blah, blah, blah. You know, and in Germany, nobody covered it. You know, you. You don't know it. And the most people in Germany even don't know it because the mainstream media were not saying it. You know, and there are other cases. I was talking, for example, with the Congressman in, in D.C. about the case, Naomi side, who is also a born German, she is now, but she's now living in D.C. she's an influencer. She's on YouTube. She's very close to Elon Musk. She has a big account on eggs, and she was very critical towards the German government. And she was facing such an oppression in Germany that she left. She had to leave. Now she's living in the US and she was asking for asylum. So we are in the moment, we have such a situation in Germany and in the European Union that our citizens are leaving the country and seeking for asylum in The United States of America. It's like in the times of communism.
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Show Host / Interviewer
I've seen similar cases where parents who want to homeschool their children have fled to the United States seeking political asylum for the same thing. I do want to come back to the point that you mentioned that this guy, this opposition leader, had nine months in jail without trial and was later found to be innocent. Is that not, does that not delegitimize the German state?
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Peter Bystran
Yeah, sure, sure. I mean, just look at what they said. They, they accused him of some taxation fraud. So they said, okay, he should pay some taxes to the state and he committed some fraud after the nine months come out. That not he committed a fraud, taxation fraud, but the state is owing him more than €200,000 in taxes to be paid back. Well, of course. What else is this then? The legitimation of the whole euridical system of the whole state, if you do something like this. So it means if we would be in power, I think we would be able to put in jail those people who implemented those laws about the legitimation of the states, because they are all doing it. They are all breaking the laws so they could go into jail after a few weeks.
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Show Host / Interviewer
So this would be exactly what's taking place. This is. Peter, this is exactly what is taking place in America right now. Because some people are saying that President Trump is using the DOJ to persecute his enemies. In reality, what's taking place right now is a correction because it was under the Biden regime and Merrick Garland that the weaponized DOJ was used against Donald Trump and his associates. They sent Steve Bannon to jail for four months. Right?
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Peter Bystran
Yeah.
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Show Host / Interviewer
So, so the, so the argument is the people who, who perverted the cause of justice under Biden now need to undergo the same process, not for revenge or for vendetta, but to ensure that that corruption of the judicial process never happens again. And it's the same thing as what you're talking about. Hopefully when the AfD will take power at the next elections in Germany.
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Peter Bystran
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. They're misusing the juristical system. They're misusing all the power they have. You know, now it's very popular in Germany to ride people's houses just because they posted something on Facebook or on X, which is absolutely anti constitutional. Or what is also very popular is to charge people for weaving. And they always saying, oh, they are doing a Hitler salute. You know, it happened even to me. I had to pay €11,000 fine just because I published a picture, a photo of Angela Merkel who was weaving and they previously more than thousand times the Attorney General said, no, Angela Merkel on this picture is not doing a Hitler salut. This is a former German Chancellor and she's just weaving. This is not a Hitler salute. But in the moment when I publish it on X, they said, oh, Peter Bryson is publishing it because it looks like a Hitler serum. So we will charge him €11,000 fine for publishing this picture. You know, and this is happening again and again, you know, I'm not the only one. There are even more terrible cases. A colleague of mine who has not really a right hand, you know, and they charge him for doing a Hitler salvad and he says, how can I do a Hitler salute? I don't have a right hand, a right arm. But they did and he lost nearly 70, not 17, 70,000 Euro on different charges, fines they took on him. So it's really terrible. We are facing terrible times.
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Show Host / Interviewer
Just to answer this quickly before we go to the next break. These, these convictions where they take place, where people actually have trials, these jury trials in Germany, or is it simply a judge sitting on the bench and deciding a person's guilt without, without a jury?
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Peter Bystran
Well, the Germany has a different system than the United States of America. It's not very common to have a big jury. So we have and trials. There are judges, sometimes alone, sometimes there are two or three, but just judges. So there is no jury.
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Show Host / Interviewer
The final thing I want to discuss with you today, and this was development a short while ago, was the fact that Ursula von der Leyen's intention to confiscate some about $250 billion worth of Russian assets in order to, to fund the Ukrainian side of the war was rejected. And Belgium I think was pretty much, I mean, you have Hungary there as well. Italy surprisingly opposed this, this maneuver. I wonder whether this represents a more long term reorientation of the Meloni government. But Hungary, Italy, but specifically Belgium had opposed this. Belgium holding most of the Russian assets in question, saying if it were to do this it would fundamentally undermine international confidence in its financial infrastructure. Quite rightly as well, because it would be extrajudicial. Tell me your view in Germany on this. Is the opinion starting to move against the Mets government right now with regards to Ukraine? How are people reacting to the government's intention to reintroduce conscription, for example? Is that popular or unpopular? I see a number of polls which say that the German youth don't even want to fight for Germany if it were to be attacked, let alone Ukraine. What is the view right now on regards to Ukraine and the ending of the war, even if Ursula von Delia is able to get this $105 billion loan to Ukraine, it's absolutely clear that Ukraine isn't going to be able to win this war. So it's just a technical means of making the suffering and the manslaughter go on even longer. Tell me from your perspective now what is happening in Germany with regards to this.
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Peter Bystran
Look, the same people who destroyed completely German Bundeswehr in the last years, the same people who destroyed the national proud of a whole nations for decades, you know, who were putting throwing away the German flags into the bin. They are now asking the people to defend the country with their lives. Of course nobody wants to do it, especially not for Ukraine because we know that firstly, it will change nothing. Ukraine is losing anyway. Second, the money we put in, a big part of it was stolen. And as we see at the latest corruption scandal, the corrupt elites in the Ukraine, they, they both golden toilets and stuff like this for themselves from our taxpayers money. So the people don't want it. And it's not just in Germany. There are recent polls done by really. Very reputable US institutes which are saying that over 70%, 73% of the Ukrainians are saying they want the war stopped and even if the Russians will keep the territories they conquered. But the Ukrainians they don't want the war continues. So the Germans don't want the war continues. The Ukrainians don't want as well the US citizens they don't want the war is going on.
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Stephen K. Bannon
And.
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Peter Bystran
Some European leaders, they still pushing for it. It's Mads and Keir Starmer of Great Britain and they just decided to put some 90 billion of euro. You said how, how much? US dollars and more than 120 billion US dollar and they want to finance it and of course.
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Show Host / Interviewer
But this is great for the afd, right? This is great for the afd. The fact that Friedrich Mertz is continuing to push on this, on such an unpopular issue, threatening conscription. This is great for you to be cynical, to be brutally cynical about this.
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Peter Bystran
Is really, this is really very cynical. And I don't want to celebrate this fact, you know, because this is a very high price for some points, some more percents we would laugh the war stops. We did already 2023 peace proposal. And under my leadership as a foreign policy speaker and the German Bundestag we published this paper. And it's quite the same like what Donald Trump offered in his 28 point peace paper Peace program. So we would like the war stops. We don't want the innocent guys dying for really nothing and nothing, you know, so, and what happened in the last year, last two, three years, the Russians move forward. So all those weapons, all those money we send in didn't change the result of the war in favor of Ukraine. On contrary, half a million young boys died and many others are injured. So the country suffered terrible losses. So we should, we should stop the war as soon as possible. And what the Merts and co are doing, it's absolutely terrible.
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Show Host / Interviewer
It is terrible. And I think, you know, I think we are going to see significant movement on the popular front on, on this issue. Peter Bystrand, that is the end of the show. Very grateful, grateful for you staying with us now for the whole of this hour to discuss these themes. I hope you'll come back on the show in the new year and give us updates. In the meantime on social media. I know you're active on social media. Where can people go? You are to keep up with your interventions. You are the War Room's favorite AFD mep. Where do people go?
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Peter Bystran
The best way is to get in touch via eco. Peter Bison, afd That's my account and there's many of the content is in English. So we can discuss, we can share, just have a look into it.
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Show Host / Interviewer
Peter Bison, thanks as always. Catch up again with you soon. That's the end of the show. I want to thank Victorio Franco who helped put this show together, Cameron Wallace, our producer and Will and his crack team at Real America's Voice in Denver. Folks, you won't have any idea how hard they worked on this show today. Thanks very much. Catch up again with you soon next week. God bless. For now.