Podcast Summary: Bannon’s War Room Battleground EP 918

Guest: Petr Bystron, MEP (AfD, Germany)
Interviewer: Ben Harnwell
Date: December 31, 2025

Main Theme

This episode delves into the evolving relationship between the US Trump administration and its European allies, particularly the German AfD (Alternative für Deutschland), and addresses concerns over US and EU funding influencing media and elections in Europe. Petr Bystron offers his perspective on alleged manipulation by US and European agencies, the state of opposition and rule of law in Germany, and the shifting public attitudes to the war in Ukraine.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. AfD Engagement with US Conservatives (01:34–05:20)

• Young Republicans Gala in New York:
  Bystron describes a high-profile event featuring AfD, and delegations from Hungary, Italy, and Serbia, signifying growing transatlantic conservative cooperation.
• Recognition:
  AfD was honored, reflecting its increasing stature among US conservative circles.

Quote:
“You received even an award from the Young Republicans. So we were really present as AfD.”
— Petr Bystron (02:41)

2. US National Security Strategy and European Conservative Parties (03:09–05:20)

• Changing Alliances:
  Bystron notes the Trump administration, in its final three years, is publicly supporting conservative parties in Europe for the first time.
• Strategy Impact:
  The recently published US National Security Strategy is “fixing in a new way the relationship between Europe and the United States.”

Quote:
“This document is changing the world... for the first time the Trump administration publicly admit that Trump and his people are going to support conservative parties like the AfD in Germany.”
— Petr Bystron (04:01)

3. Alleged Media Manipulation and US/EU Funding (05:29–12:00)

• Weaponization of Justice:
  Bystron discusses facing state searches and prosecution for publishing memes, paralleling US concerns over DOJ weaponization.
• OCCRP and Media Funding:
  He alleges US and EU funds covertly finance major European media via OCCRP for regime change and election manipulation.
  • The OCCRP reportedly received €600,000 post-election from the EU as US support was cut under Trump.
• Ibiza Affair Example:
  Describes how a manufactured scandal damaged a major Austrian party before EU elections; subsequent litigation vindicated the party leader, but the election's outcome was altered.

Quote:
“They received information, most likely from secret services...and were not allowed to disclose this source of information.”
— Petr Bystron (06:48)

Host Clarification (09:46):
“You're saying that U.S. taxpayers’ money has been funneled... to the mainstream media, German mainstream media, to run combative anti-AfD articles... that is explosive.”

Bystron’s Response (12:00):
“You got it right. But it was even worse... It's about massive election fraud.”

4. Influence Campaigns and Election Interference (12:00–15:00; 19:00–24:23)

• Ibiza Affair & Election Manipulation:
  Last-minute, selectively edited leaks influenced votes, destroyed parties' fortunes, and Bystron asserts that “majorities in the current European Parliament were heavily manipulated by media campaigns.”
• Ongoing Tactics:
  Recent Voice of Europe accusations mirror this, using unsubstantiated claims to smear EU-critical politicians, including Bystron himself.

Quote:
“They created a blackmailing campaign… they accused the website... called Voice of Europe... of being a tool of Putin’s propaganda. Through this... the whole elections to the European Parliament… should be manipulated.”
— Petr Bystron (21:49)

5. Suppression and Prospects for Change (24:23–25:51, 28:41–31:08)

• Europe’s Aid Machinery:
  While the Trump administration suppressed USAID funding for “regime change,” Bystron laments the lack of parliamentary majorities to do the same in Europe.
• Rigged Outcomes:
  Bystron and Harnwell draw parallels between alleged US and European election manipulation, suggesting victory without interference would yield different outcomes.

6. State Repression in Germany (31:08–34:17, 34:17–41:30)

• Legal System’s Use Against Opposition:
  Bystron claims new German laws suppress opposition by framing dissent as a threat to state legitimacy.
• Examples:
  • Opposition figures jailed without trial.
  • Social media posts resulting in home raids and heavy fines.
  • Persecution over trivially misrepresented gestures.
• Seeking Asylum:
  Noted German dissidents are seeking asylum in the US due to lack of free speech protections.

Quote:
“The German government put him into jail for nine months... at the end it comes out that he's completely innocent.”
— Petr Bystron (34:43)

7. The Weaponization of Justice and Political Prospects (38:20–41:52)

• Comparisons to the US:
  Discussion of judicial processes used tactically; hope that impending electoral success will allow conservatives to reverse these abuses.
• Legal Oddities:
  Trials in Germany are typically judge-led, not by jury, limiting defendants’ recourse.

8. Ukraine War, Sanctions, and Public Opinion (41:52–48:29)

• Russian Asset Confiscation Plan Blocked:
  EU proposal to seize Russian assets for Ukraine funding was rejected by key EU states (Belgium, Italy, Hungary), mostly over legal and financial order concerns.
• Shifting Attitudes:
  German public is increasingly resistant to more involvement or conscription; similarly, Ukrainian and US publics now lean against prolonging the war.
• AfD Peace Efforts:
  Bystron notes the AfD’s efforts to introduce peace proposals, paralleling Trump’s diplomatic frameworks.

Quote:
“It's not just in Germany... over 70%, 73% of Ukrainians are saying they want the war stopped even if the Russians will keep the territories they conquered.”
— Petr Bystron (44:41)

Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• Bannon sets the tone:
  “This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.”
  — Stephen K. Bannon (00:02)
• On OCCRP's influence:
  “The Boss of this NGO, Mr. Sullivan, stated… that his organization is responsible for regime changes in five or maybe six countries. He wasn’t sure if it’s five or six, but he was sure that his organization is responsible for that.”
  — Peter Bystron (06:35)
• On double standards:
  “The very people who are doing this themselves are involved in the anti-democratic undermining of actual election victories and using American taxpayer money to pervert the course of the democratic process... Does that not strike you somewhat as ironic?”
  — Ben Harnwell (28:41)
• On public opinion about Ukraine:
  “The same people who destroyed completely German Bundeswehr in the last years... they are now asking the people to defend the country with their lives. Of course nobody wants to do it, especially not for Ukraine because we know that firstly, it will change nothing. Ukraine is losing anyway.”
  — Peter Bystron (44:07)

Important Segment Timestamps

• Opening and context by Bannon: 00:02
• European conservatives at Young Republicans gala: 01:34–05:20
• US National Security Strategy & AfD: 03:09–05:20
• Media manipulation and OCCRP discussion: 05:29–12:00
• Ibiza Affair and election interference: 12:00–15:00
• Parallel between USAID/EU aid and electoral influence: 19:00–24:23
• Legal/constitutional suppression in Germany: 31:08–34:17
• Ukraine war debate and public sentiment: 41:52–48:29

Tone & Language

The discussion is assertive, urgent, and combative, with both interviewer and guest using rhetoric of political crisis, injustice, and resistance. Bystron’s stories blend personal testimony, political assertion, and a strong oppositional stance to the current German and EU establishment. The host frames events to align with MAGA sensibilities and to draw transatlantic parallels.

Social Media

Petr Bystron closes by sharing his primary contact:

• “The best way is to get in touch via 'eco. Peter Bison, afd'... there’s much content in English.” (49:01)

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