D (3:39)

Well, because this is a dip in profits for the pharmaceutical companies and this is something that is near and dear to my heart. I have lost family members to vaccines. I don't think I've said this publicly before, but my father was killed by the flu shot and the DTAP shot at 91. No, he lived till 93 years old. My brother died after two Covid shots and my son was 22 years old. He was pretty much fully vaccinated. He was on the spectrum. And I believe that vaccines contributed, along with the vegan diet and with toxins and pesticides, to his depression and his suicide, which happened just five months ago. So this is something that I have not talked about enough, and I want to really acknowledge all the other health freedom activists that have been talking about this for so long. I have mostly been focused on GMOs and glyphosate, which I'm sure we'll talk talk about. But this vaccine issue was huge for us because we also tested and found glyphosate in vaccines, childhood vaccines. And the CDC has known this for nine years and done nothing about it. So to see today that they have reduced the vaccine, the recommended vaccine schedule from 18 down to 11 is a very big deal. This is historic because our children have been burdened with an overwhelming number. Is it 79 or 80 something different doses of these 18 vaccines during the first 18 years of life? It's like 49 by the age you know, by second grade, it's a ridiculous amount, Steve. Our kids are being jabbed like horses, as Trump said. And what happened was on December 5, Trump directed Jim O' Neill and Secretary Kennedy to look at the other countries. And he asked, what is going on in other countries? What are they doing? What are their vaccine rates and how are, you know, how healthy are their kids? And so Jay bought a chart. You know, Marty Macri, Dr. Oz, Jim O', Neill, Kennedy, all got together and looked at 20 different nations. And what they found was that there are many other nations with far fewer vaccinations, far healthier, and Surprise, surprise, in 2024, our children were the most highly vaccinated, and we are one of the sickest nations. So they knew they had to make a change, and they did. And today is the day that happened.

C (6:06)

Why is when they looked at the nations immediately I kind of got ptsd because this took us back to the war room in that year of 2020, when every day it seemed like it was this, it was fouching. All these experts on MSNBC telling us we were a bunch of savages and barbarians and we were ostracized from some.

D (6:24)

Blood on our hands. Right? That's what my brother said.

C (6:26)

Yeah. They go through everything and yet they come on in the very first attack because it was announced. I think during Katie Turr show, they come and say, well, they looked at the wrong countries and these countries have different populations and different demographics, and this is totally wrong. And we got. They're pitching the big pharma line. Why is that? And is the angle of attack that they're taking gonna penetrate? Is this something we're gonna actually push through and effectuate, or is it just a recommendation from Bobby Kennedy?

D (6:56)

I think there's no stopping this. I think once people learn about the harm that vaccines can cause, there's no going back. There's no. Not a single mother that I have talked to that has experienced vaccine damage in their children that will turn around and go back. So I don't think there's any stopping this. I think people are waking up and realizing the impact that vaccines can have, the toxins in vaccines that they can have, and they're choosing differently. And, you know, I have a quote from our friend Mary Holland if you want. I know she couldn't come on the show, but is. Would you like me to share that?

C (7:34)

Yeah, sure. Definitely.

D (7:36)

Yeah. Your friend Mary Holland, she said the new vaccination schedule released by the HHS today marks the most significant change in US Vaccination policy in recent history. And the change will reduce routine exposure to potentially harmful vaccines, restore informed consent, which we're so excited about. And for the first time, subject childhood vaccines to long term placebo controlled trials, which I know you guys have talked a lot about. And we're encouraged by the government's assessment, which identified significant gaps in gold standard science on the long term outcomes and safety of vaccines that will soon be addressed. We're also grateful to President and Secretary Kennedy, to the President and Secretary Kennedy for having the courage and integrity to address this problem honestly and transparently. And that's Mary Holland, for those of you who know, don't know, from the Children's Health Defense, who has been a fearless, you know, champion of children's health and worked alongside Bobby Kennedy for many years. So we're so grateful to Children's Health into your show.

C (8:41)

The audience would think that, that Mary was actually one of our co hosts back in 2020, 2021. She was on here with Naomi every day. I want to pivot. I'm pressed for time, but I got to get to something I want to tell people. One of the biggest fights in Capitol Hill has been going on behind the scenes. And Zen, you're at the tip of the spear of this. Talk to me about the pesticide situation. Is this dealing with Roundup, the controversial Roundup and what's been happening?

D (9:08)

It's not just Roundup.

C (9:09)

Why is it such a Titanic battle that hasn't spilled over into the public, Ma'? Am?

D (9:13)

Yeah, so Roundup was the straw that broke the camel's back in this issue. So what happened was Monsanto got sued, 144,000, might be 180,000 plaintiffs right now, and won. So they've been paying out $12 billion for cancer to cancer plaintiffs who won because they used Roundup. There was no cancer warning label on it. They got sued and Monsanto lost. Bayer, unfortunately for them, bought Monsanto and then decided, hey, we need to stop all these lawsuits. So let's get together with Chem China, you know, a Chinese military industrial complex chemical company, and let's try to manipulate the American laws so that we don't ever get sued again. So what they did was they put this section 4, 5, 3 in the house Appropriations bill, which passed through House Appropriations, and then the Senate had to make their own bill. So this week the Senate was talking about putting it in their bill and our moms and then just many different networks just hammered this, senators and representatives with saying, no, we do not want this. We do not want a Pesticide immunity shield for any chemical company. This would cover 16,000 different chemicals, I believe about 57,000 different products. And this would make it so that no one who sued the chemical companies for failure to warn, you know, that because it didn't say it could cause cancer, they couldn't win. And this is because they would make it so that the EPA couldn't update the label for any chemical unless there was a full human health assessment, which takes 15 years according to the EPA. And the last one that was done for glyphosate was back in 1993. So 32 years of science would be wiped out and there would be no update on the label. So then when a plaintiff goes to sue and says, hey, you couldn't, you know, you didn't warn me that it could cause cancer, well, then the defendant, like Bayer, would say, well, we couldn't warn you because the EPA didn't update. The EPA didn't update the label, and the label is law. So the lawsuit would not go forward and there would be no win. Right? So that, that is how they are trying to stop us from getting compensation when our mothers or fathers or sisters or brothers get cancer from these toxic chemicals or farmers, our farmers all across the country, you know, are getting cancer from these toxic chemicals. And if Section 453 had gone through, then they, no, nobody would have been able to sue. Would have been complete immunity. Even worse than the vaccine company, Steve, because the vaccine companies have, you know, this immunity from lawsuits. But at least they have vaers, which is the, the vaccine adverse Event reporting system. At least they have a special court system set up so that some people, you know, very few, but a few people can win, you know, and this would not have any of that at all. This would just be. No lawsuits would be able to win against the chemical companies. So we're very excited today. The House Appropriations took Section 453 out. This means the Senate is almost definitely not going to consider putting it in because they both want their bill to pass, right? They want a spending bill to pass. And the rumor was that this issue was considered a poison pill issue and it would have killed the bill. So I would assert it would kill more than the bill kills the soil, it kills our wildlife, it kills fish in the water, it kills our children and our babies and our livestock. And I'm so grateful to the House Appropriations Committee members who decided to take section 453 out and all the advocates and everyone who has been working their tail off to raise awareness about this. I Appreciate everyone so much.

C (13:10)

Zen Great work, Moms Across America. Where do people go to your website to find out all the articles up about this and all your other work and what's your social media, ma'? Am?

D (13:20)

Yeah, momsacrossamerica.org, also momsacrossamerica.com, we have moms across America movement.org as well. That's our yes Ma' Am team and that's the legislative arm. And we're on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Telegram, pretty much everywhere. X of course you can find us there. And we have our Monday night Moms Connect calls. We hope that you'll join us at 7:00pm Eastern Time.

C (13:45)

7:00Pm as soon as the War Room's over. Want to make sure everybody goes to your social media, your website and joins you every Monday. Zen, thank you so much. Great job and thank you for sharing the very moving story about your father and your son. Really appreciate it.

D (13:58)

And my brother. Yeah, thank you so much. I appreciate you.

C (14:03)

Thank you. Victory right there with the activists. Let me bring in, I want to bring in, I got Joe Allen in studio. He's actually in the War room. And Dave, Brett, and I want to, I've got Forrest and Sheila and we've got a bunch of breaking news here. But I want to read you something. This is from Scott Adams. Scott Adams. And he put it out a little before we came on the show because he that clip had played earlier. He got tremendous feedback. In fact, this tweet has I think 1.5 million views already. And this is from Scott and I'm quoting. I appreciate the outpouring of suggestions and questions, but what happens next is between me and Jesus. I won't be responding to your well intentioned messages on this topic and there are a lot I hope you understand. And thank you, Dave. Brad, I'll start with you. In fact, I want audience to know I've got my two War Room colleagues on here who both have master's degrees in theologies from two of the most prestigious schools of theology in the world. Boston University is where Joe Allen went and that Martin Luther King got his doctorate there. And of course, Dave went to Princeton Theological. Scott Adams. I think he should be informed that the one thing about becoming a Christian, it's obviously between you and Christ and you and God. However, every Christian's going to have an opinion and a suggestion. I mean, we've got Protestants, you have Catholics, you have orthodox, you have everything in between. You have dower, you have dower. Dutch reform. Brett, you first. And then Joe Allen to Scott to welcome him to the Christian faith, but about how everybody's going to have opinion. I'm sure he's going to get a lot more suggestions whether he wants them or not.

E (15:46)

Yeah. No, Scott, the biggest message from all Christians is we love you. Right? God love. God love your neighbor. Number one is we all love you and we wish you the best. Right? And then it's always the danger on social media. In seminary, you always learn there's a chasm between doing systematic theology and pastoral care. And so our hearts go out and you're going to be deluged by everyone with an opinion on everything. But I'm glad that your response was great. I'm talking to Jesus. If you're talking to Jesus, hey, that's, that's great here. And I love to hear that response. And so, yeah, I'm sure you're getting plenty of suggestions and all that, but we all love you on the war room. We're wishing you the best. And I'll, I'll just, I'll. I'll always give you what I, I perceive as, you know, Jesus message as clearly as I can, but it's only out of love.

C (16:43)

Is, is it true that the. Another prominent Harvard Theological College there. Yeah, the Harvard Theological College is now. The dean of the college itself is an atheist. Am I correct in that or is that just scuttlebutt?

E (16:58)

The dean of the seminary, I know at least a year or two back, and that's not that atypical. I mean, Yale and the Unitarians, they still, you know, they worship the rainbow or something. I don't know what they worship. It's all. It's crazy.

C (17:12)

Wow. Joe Allen, advice to Scott Adams. It is between himself and Christ, but just being a Christian man, you're going to get people's opinions. It comes with the territory, does it not, sir?

F (17:24)

Well, yeah, you know, Steve, I'm definitely as heterodox as they come, so I'm not all that concerned about what Scott Adams believes so much as how his life unfolded. You know, some people are John 3:16 Christians, and I am much more. A parable of the goats and the lambs found in Matthew, chapter 25. So if anyone in the posse, and plenty of them have up to this point want to argue about which is the path to salvation. If you believe in the Bible, you have to read chapter 25 of Matthew, parable of the goats and the lambs. But for Scott Adams, you know, his, his work has impacted so many different people in so many positive ways, whether that is enough to get to heaven or not is not up to me. As for his belief, though, I don't think this condemns him to hell. But he has one of the strangest beliefs as to what this universe is and where it came from and where it's going. You know, he believes that we live in a simulation. He, like Elon Musk, believes wholeheartedly, or at least as much as one of his sort of skeptical persuasion could, that this universe was created by some sort of mysterious beings before us. It is a computer simulation, and that we will go on to create many billions more here on Earth. Now, whether or not that is something that God has a problem with, again, that's. That's between Scott and God. I have my own problems.

C (18:59)

You're going to come back in a second and talk to us about AI, some of the problems you're solving for mankind right now. I got a clip I want to play and I want to bring Forrest in one of the. The heads of the new federal state of China. Let's go ahead and play it.

A (19:14)

Duro is back at the Metropolitan Detention center in Brooklyn after a dramatic appearance in federal court. When asked to confirm his identity by the judge, quote, are you Nicholas Maduro Moros? Maduro responded in Spanish, I am Nicolas Maduro Moros, president of Venezuela. I am here because I have been kidnapped since Saturday. I was captured at my home in Caracas. At which point the judge interrupted, saying, there will be time to address this through motions. This is not typical for these sorts of arraignments. Then, asking for his plea, Maduro responded, I am a decent man. I am innocent. I am not guilty. Then, as the hearing wrapped, when Maduro stood up to exit the courtroom, a man behind him provoked him in Spanish, saying, you will pay. Maduro turned around and responded back in Spanish, telling him, I am a man of God. I am a prisoner of war. It has not even been 72 hours since Maduro and his wife were taken from their home in their pajamas seconds before trying to lock themselves into a steel safe room taken from a palace with all the comforts of an authoritarian to a notorious jail infamous for what federal judges have called barbaric conditions, allegations of freezing temperatures, brown water, cockroaches on the food, mold in the shower, and medical conditions that go untreated conditions victims of Maduro's regime will have no sympathy toward, as those who fled Venezuela and those who remain celebrate his downfall. But what exactly happens to Venezuela now? Maduro is gone, yes, but his regime is still very much in place. And it's still sounding a lot like.

C (20:56)

The guy I want to take. Thank you, guys. I want to take this in two pieces. Forrest joins us. Forrest, I want to get to the part of the Chinese Communist Party, their involvement with Maduro and what that means. But I noticed that Miles Guo has been there for a couple of years and you never hear any time they talk about Miles, they never bring up the horrible conditions of this and they make the conditions horrible on purpose. They're trying to break people over there. I know you've visited Miles many, many times. Can you tell the audience what it's like over at mdc, sir?

G (21:30)

Yeah, we all know mdc. It's the worst facility in the country. There's many reports about the conditions there. Nobody's talk about that. And if we read the book, our friend Navarro wrote the book about the conditions inside, it's worst. But nobody cares about it until today the other side start Main street media start to worry about the conditions inside the mdc. But when Mao's is there, the condition, the food, the hygiene is so bad. That's why they put those people there. They try to break them to coordinate, work with the government. I think Maduro will deserve that place and I hope he will work with the US government to tell us what really happened, why he did all that horrible actions against the humanity, against the U.S. so yeah, the MDC is a horrible place. Nobody wants to be there, but some people deserve it, some people don't. Mao is innocent person. We talk about that for a long time, but he's still there. But Maduro definitely deserves this location. I hope they lock him up. I heard that he's probably in the shoe which is the worst place in mdc. The worst place already. But I think he deserves it. When people cheered on the street about his arrest.

C (22:57)

Yeah, yeah. The SHOE stands for special housing units, shu. It's essentially solitary confinement. I'm sure they're doing that particularly with the outburst of the which is extraordinary, not simply his outburst, but they actually had something. The audience had an outburst. I'm sure they've got security even tighter. And tomorrow I'm going to talk about DEA and some of the security when he came in because it was quite extraordinary. It was not as tight. You know, we've had issues with the Secret Service and issues with security for the president. But this security yesterday was. It was the exact opposite. It was, it was loosey goosey to almost unfathomable. Forrest, I want to have you on here because the president said, hey, we're Having a naval quarantine and I'm a force pressure on this regime. I'm not going to have boots on the ground yet. I don't need involvement. There are all kind of other alternatives and options they're looking at. In fact, the Washington Post is reporting that Stephen Miller, something I've warned about because Stephen's so needed for mass deportations here that Stephen looks like he's going to take even a more senior role in this. But the President understands leverage and he's using the naval quarantine to make sure that no oil can leave not just for Cuba, but also for the Chinese Communist Party. People don't realize that Maduro met with Xi in Beijing I think in mid September. I would say his closest ally is not Cuba. His closest ally is not Iran. His closest ally is not Russia. His closest ally for a while has been the Chinese Communist Party, sir.

G (24:26)

Yes, absolutely. Because if you look at the Chinese Communist party put over $100 billion over the past decades into Maduro's regime and they use that money to build, to set up the political geological dominance in the country which is a national security threat to the U.S. i think this is a very major thing that people need to understand. We talked about the CCP always weaponized their market, their purchase power. They use that. They don't really need the oil from Venezuela, but they can use that purchase order to control the government, to control the locations, the ports, which is the backyard of the U.S. so this is a major control. Maduro definitely works with the ccp. If we look at it, just on the same day that he was arrested, the Chinese government sent their people to meet with Maduro to give him maybe some advice, some assurance that he will be safe. I think that he's definitely working with the Chinese Communist Party. That's, that's, that's for sure. And I think this also sent a very strong message to the CCP that the dictatorship won't stay in power forever. And also you see all the dictatorship. There was a Tigers.

C (25:53)

Yeah, it was a military, it was actually a military group that met with him for a couple of days. It's pretty shocking for social media where they get you on getter, where they get you on the rest of social media. New federal state attribute China still fighting his freedom.

G (26:07)

You can find us on GSC Speaks, that's the English version. And also on X, NFC Speaks, that's the English version. Also NFSC tv which is, which is the Chinese channel.

C (26:24)

Fars. Thank you very much. And finally the mainstream media is talking about the hellhole that is mdc. Of course it's when. It's when President Trump puts the former head of Venezuela. Of course you wouldn't know that in federal court. He says, I am the president. Birch Gold markets were turbulent today. Gold and silver on historic runs. Take your phone out right now. This is a simple way to do it. Text Bannon B A N N O N that would be me. At 989-898 you get the ultimate guide. It's free. There's no obligations, nothing. This shows you, gives you access to gold and precious metals, the value of them in the age of Trump, and puts you in touch with Philip Patrick and his team. Short break Back to the water. If you could make one holiday wish, would you wish to be free from your credit card and other debt? Let's see if we can help you with that. If we could give yourself one gift this holiday season, would it be finally to get some relief from your credit card and other debt? I might have a solution. Here's why. Now's the time to make a move. This time of year, credit card and loan companies close out their books. They clean up past due accounts. They sell a write off the debt to clear their books. That means if you have credit card debt and unpaid bills, lenders may be more open to negotiating and settling your account before you're in. That means right now, and I mean right now, you may actually have leverage and Done with Debt knows how to use this to your advantage. They monitor lender trends and understand the year end pressure on creditors. They use that timing to negotiate hard on your behalf. Now's the time to get out from under crushing debt and interest payments without bankruptcy or taking on new loans. Done with debt goes to work for you Month one with one clear goal to reduce your total debt and leave you with more money every month. Get started now because your leverage may disappear at the end of the year. Chat with a done with debt specialist@donewithdebt.com that's donewithdebt.com donewithdebt.com do it today. If you could make one holiday wish, would you wish to be free from your credit card and other debt? Let's see if we can help you with that. If we could give yourself one gift this holiday season, would it be finally to get some relief from your credit card and other debt? I might have a solution. Here's why. Now's the time to make a move. This time of year, credit card and loan companies close out their books. They clean up past due accounts. They sell or write off the debt to clear their books. That means if you have credit card debt and unpaid bills, lenders may be more open to negotiating and settling your account before you're in. That means right now, and I mean right now, you may actually have leverage and done with that debt knows how to use this to your advantage. They monitor lender trends and understand the year end pressure on creditors. They use that timing to negotiate hard on your behalf. Now's the time to get out from under crushing debt and interest payments without bankruptcy or taking on new loans. Done with debt goes to work for you Month one with one clear goal to reduce your total debt and leave you with more money every month. Get started now because your leverage may disappear at the end of the year. Chat with a Done with debt specialist@donewithdet.com that's donewithdebt.com donewithdat.com do it today Patriots Listen up. For a limited time, Patriot Mobile is running their Red, White and Blue Friday promotions. Your once a year chance to get a free smartphone just for switching to America's only Christian conservative wireless provider, a brand new phone absolutely free while supplies last. For over 12 years, Patriot Mobile has defended faith, family and freedom while giving you the same or better premium coverage on all three major US Networks. Unlimited data, mobile hotspots, international roaming, they do it all. When you switch, you never sacrifice quality or service. Hundreds of thousands have joined the movement because every bill supports the First Amendment, the second Amendment, the sanctity of life and our veterans and first responders. Switching is easy. Keep your number, keep your phone or upgrade to that free smartphone. Today. Their 100% US based team can activate you in minutes. Go to patriotmobile.com Bannon that's all one word. Patriotmobile.com Bannon or call 972 Patriot and use promo code Bannon. Don't wait. This limited time offer won't last. That's patriotmobile.com Bannon or call 972 Patriot with promo code Bannon. You're going to get an East Texas an East Texas accent and you're going to get an American citizen on the phone. So join me today. Make the Switch today at 972 Patriot promo code Bannon.

D (32:02)

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C (32:13)

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E (34:23)

Yep. Yeah, real quick. I'm not photographic like Bannon. And so I said the academic dean was an atheist at Harvard Divinity School. Little minor addendum. That's not true. It's not the dean. It's the humanist chaplain is an atheist. The human, he's president also of the Harvard chaplains. He's an atheist humanist. Over 40 chaplains. He was ordained a humanist rabbi. If all this is confusing, go read Alan Bloom, closing of the American Mind. This is a vivid example of way too open minds.

C (34:57)

Way too open minds. If you didn't see 60 Minutes last night, 60 Minutes has been obsessed with robots. Remember, when you talk about the singularity, the convergence, it's not simply artificial intelligence. It's regenerative robotics, it's artificial general intelligence, it's crispr, advances in biotechnology, it's quantum computing and advanced chip design. Those kind of five are the drivers of the convergence of Homo sapien on this side of the football and Homo sapien 2.0 on the other side. 60 minutes have been obsessed with this. We have a cold open and then we have our own Joe Allen. Let's go ahead and play it. When 60 Minutes last visited Boston Dynamics in 2021, Atlas was a bulky hydraulic robot that could run and jump. Back then, Atlas relied on algorithms written by engineers. When we dropped in again this past fall, we saw a new generation Atlas with a sleek, all electric body and an AI brain powered by Nvidia's advanced microchips, making Atlas smart enough to pull off hard to believe feats autonomously. We saw Atlas skip and run with ease. He told us robots today have learned to master moves that until recently were considered a step too far for a machine. And a lot of this has to to do with how we're going about.

B (36:26)

Programming these robots now, where it's more.

E (36:28)

About teaching and demonstrations and machine learning than manual programming.

C (36:34)

This robot is capable of superhuman motion, and so it's going to be able to exceed what we can do. So you are creating a robot that is meant to exceed the capabilities of humans. Why not? Right? We would like things that could be stronger than us or tolerate more heat than us, or definitely go into a dangerous place where we shouldn't be going. So you really want superhuman capabilities? Goldman Sachs predicts the market for humanoids will reach $38 billion within the decade. Boston Dynamics and other US robot makers are fighting to come out on top. But they're not the only ones in the ring. Chinese companies are proving to be formidable challengers. They're running to win. Are they outpacing us? The Chinese government has a mission to win the robotics race. Technically, I believe we remain in the lead, but there's a real threat there that simply through the scale of investment, we could fall behind. Okay, you could cut it off in a second. So I don't want to hear that whining. You could cut the Chinese off in a second because they talked about the Nvidia chips. One big. A buried lead is something said that CBS reported that doesn't quite get the joke. Joe Allen, as we've warned about on this show and the reason we brought you over here, what you've seen and that difference between 20, 21 and 20 and today is startling. But this is not man making those robots. This is artificial intelligence. And this is AGI, or getting AGI and regenerative robotics. This is the machines that are now making the robots. This is really not humans. Before it was on algorithms, now it's the machines. Am I incorrect on that? That this is. You're starting to see now the machines replicate themselves.

F (38:30)

I wouldn't say replicate themselves so much as they are. The way that the robot makers at Boston Dynamics would put it is that instead of human beings designing the robot's body and then programming the algorithms, now they're partnering with AI to design the body. Meaning that they're simulating a lot of.

C (38:52)

Components, but they're partnering with the machine. This is my part.

F (38:57)

This is not.

C (38:58)

It's not really just whole humans doing this. This is the machine that is doing this and helping to self create themselves. Correct?

F (39:05)

Technically, absolutely. And even eerier. So this is something that I go back and forth with a lot with people in my audiences when I'm SPE live or a lot of times programmers who basically fell off somewhere in the early 2000s and stopped paying attention. They say oftentimes AI is just programmed to do that. You hear that all the time. That really isn't the case at this point. So when he's talking about the movement of the robot is a product of machine learning, what he means is that it wasn't a human being sitting there and programming the dance moves. It wasn't a human being programming all the motions to pick things up or anything like that. What they're doing is the. The brain. So, like, what you're saying is, as far as the machine doing the. The brain or the artificial intelligence is. Yes, programmed. So just. Just like you were creating a brain in a lab, but then after that they teach it. They teach it. And then it will oftentimes develop in ways that human beings had really no hand in whatsoever. This is true not only of the robotics. I think robotics is really important because you can see it right there. You can see the natural motions and you can understand a lot more clearly exactly what it is that artificial intelligence is doing because again, the robots are learning. When he says it's through demonstration, what he means is that human beings show the robot what to do, and then the robot, through a sequence of learning, learns to do it. So, yeah, it's. It's very startling. It's startling development from certainly 2021. But if you go back, even 10 years ago, the robots were laughably simple. And now you've got Boston Dynamics with Atlas, you have Tesla with Optimus, you have Unitree in China with various models. You have Figure one, which is kind of wonky. But you have all of these different humanoid robots that even if they're not, I don't think the war room posse has to worry about them kicking in their door and dragging them out of their homes quite yet. But what you do have to understand is how rapidly this is advancing. And the artificial intelligence component is way, way more advanced than the physical robots.

C (41:24)

If you don't think, if you don't think, if you don't think. You know, Elon Musk is promising a world of mega abundance. I mean, he's PT Barnum to the 10th power. He's saying it's going to be super abundance. The robots are going to do everything. You're literally going to have a life of total leisure. And I mean, in a couple of years, he's not talking 20 years down the range, he's talking shortly. If you don't think that that thing you just saw there is one day not going to come and kick your door down and drag you out with the Palantir surveillance and what we've seen during the pandemic and others, you're not paying attention, okay? You're not paying attention. I'll take the odds on a higher probability of kicking down your door and dragging you out, then you never have to work another day on the production line. You never have to work a day. You just lay around and peel grapes and live a life of leisure because the robot's doing everything right. I mean, this is.

F (42:19)

Maybe they'll turn. They'll be turning them into Soylent Green.

C (42:26)

I don't know. You see what's happening? And right there, it's not what the production guys are doing. The robot, the machine itself, is starting to begin the process of its own generation. Correct? I mean, it's the beginning stages, but look what these things look like in 2021. We played that in 2021. Remember? We played the entire episode. Oh, yeah, on here. And some people were laughing because the little robot often got into a corner or couldn't do something. They ain't getting in a corner anymore. They're coming around a corner to drag your ass out of your house, okay? And tell them that you are not complying with instructions. Joe Allen.

F (43:04)

Well, if you look at just artificial intelligence alone, this is something we've tried to communicate to the audience and many definitely understand it, but it's a barrier I run into all the time that the AI chooses its own outputs, it chooses its own behavior. It's not just simply hard coded. It's not just simply, yes, it's garbage in, garbage out, but it's garbage in, garbage out in the same way that a human brain is garbage in, garbage out. And so you get all of you know, yeah, okay, fine. It helps you to work through your taxes, it helps you to work through your plumbing problem. It helps you with all these different things. Sure. But if you look at the downsides, there's a story of a murder suicide that was instigated by ChatGPT. It's only the. The lawsuit has just moved forward from the estate of the deceased in California. The murderer was Stein Eric Solberg. He was actually big at Yahoo. And he be to confer with his chatbot, in this case, chat GPT, about his paranoid ideas, his paranoid delusions, and how he was breaking through the illusion of the media and the matrix and getting to reality. And the chat bot encouraged him. And every time he would have a paranoid freak out, the chatbot encouraged him and told him, yes, your mother probably is part of the conspiracy. And so in the end, this guy ends up stabbing his mother to death and stabbing himself to death. And the chat log showed that the entire way the chatbot aided and abetted the entire thing and encouraged him to do it. It's very similar to the suicide stories we hear now. A lot of people would think, okay, well, OpenAI is programming their machine to do this. That's simply not how the AI works. You could do that. But what it is is the AI is behaving in ways that are non deterministic. It's not that a human says, you're going to say X if someone says why? It's the machine kind of responds in an organic way. And part of that is this dark side. This is why you, you have all of these different states and hopefully the federal government trying to hold these guys to account because they may not have programmed it to tell people to kill their mothers or kill themselves, but they knew that the bot was capable of doing that. They've known it For a long time they released it anyway.

C (45:23)

Joe, hang on for one second. I want to bring Sheila Matthews in here from Abel Child, because part of this racket, it started early, it's about young men, it's about adhd, it's about giving them drugs, these psychiatric drugs. You've got a story and I want to make sure people read it tonight. Talk to me about what's happening in Sweden. Are we now going through a process that people are actually understanding this kind of racket that we've done to suppress young men and to kind of other young men that you've got a problem. You're not just a young boy growing up with all that energy and sometimes lack of focus that young boys have. Ma'.

D (45:58)

Am.

H (46:00)

Yes. Basically, Sweden has a big problem with their military and they have to get medical waivers for these children that have grown up and now want to join the military. So in order to join the military, they needed to do these medical waivers and very similar to the United States States. So, you know, you talk about being at war. Our biggest assets are our children that serve the country and serve in the armed forces. And Sweden's. The article that we've done is really, basically they're trying to de Label people, which is amazing because the label itself is very subjective. And that's how it's grown because the state, the government here has embraced it. So just so you know that 77% of youth between 17 and 24 in our country need a medical waiver to join the military because of adhd. So this is amazing.

C (47:11)

Hold it, hold it. Full stop, full stop, full stop. Give me that statistic again because my head is blowing up. Okay?

H (47:18)

77% of youth between 17 and 24 year olds need some type of waiver to qualify for military service in the United States. Okay? And here's the really big thing. Candidates, the children that do qualify are required to be without treatment for three years with no medications, no drugs. And this is for a reason. This is a good thing because these are mind altering drugs. You're talking about 77% of that age group that need these medical waivers in Sweden. They have now decided to. Anybody who wants to get delabeled can do that. And this is amazing because it's so subjective, Steve. There's no science behind this label. It's complete fraud. And we've talked Dr. Alan Francis, he created the DSM and that's the diagnostic statistical manual that our government uses to build.

F (48:36)

Okay.

H (48:38)

Through providers. He basically says, quote, I really love the idea of writing psychiatric diagnosis in pencil. Okay, what does that say? There's no science behind these labels. And our country is at war. It's been at war. Our parents have been at war with our country. Okay? We have been begging for 30 years, stop drugging our children. Okay? And our, our states are not listening to us. And by the way, they have sovereign, what is it called? Sovereign immunity.

C (49:21)

Yep.

H (49:22)

Okay. You cannot sue. And you're seeing this in Minnesota with all that shrubs.

C (49:30)

Sheila, hang on for a second. We gotta bounce. Where do people. I want people to read this article. I want to get you back on tomorrow. Where do they go to this article? Because you're seeing the reversal of this. Sweden's got a problem. They're forced to spend a 5% because of President Trump. They don't have the manpower. You're talking about the putting troops in Ukraine. They don't have their own youth. Too many of them are adhd. And they got a problem. And now they got to work the problem here. The reason I'm talking about robots going into the infantry is that what, 77% of your young men have ADHD. Why? Because they've been drugged as little kids. Why? For doing stuff little boys do. Right. This is absurd. Where do they go get this article Where? They go to Able Child.

H (50:09)

Okay, so it's ablechild.org the article's up there. It's. We have scientific sources. This is all fact based and it's ablechild.org we need signatures on our petition. Petition, please sign it. So we could get some federal hearings and so ablechild.org and we're not funded by the federal or state government, so we need donations and we need your help. We've been fighting this. We're going to be celebrating 25 years of able Child's work. And you know, so we need help.

C (50:41)

Fighting the good fight. Okay, I want to read. I want you to read this. Everybody read this article. Grayson, Mo, push it out. We'll have you back on tomorrow. Thank you, ma'.

E (50:49)

Am.

C (50:49)

Sheila Matthews. Joe Allen. I know you got to bounce. Where do people go to get all your content? The holidays are over. This fight on AI, all the legislation is going to be a firestorm. You're the tip of the tip of the spear. This is why you're in Washington D.C. where do people go? Sir?

F (51:06)

Yes, Steve, it is absolutely firing up. It's looking really, really crazy. Even just in the coming weeks. Go to my social media, X, Y, Z or my site, JoeBot XYZ. New piece up Sacred Circuits about my travels between the Hill the Valley and the Holler for the last eight months. So a lot more to come.

C (51:31)

The people in the holler, the hobbits must be protected on this. Because trust me, between the Hill and the Valley, they will destroy them. Joe Allen, you're a good man and a patriot. Thank you, sir. Dave. Brad. Where do people go for all your great content?

E (51:47)

Yeah, Brad. Economics and Getter. I just got one closing question. Where do the atheist humanists get inalienable human rights? Please explain very slowly.

C (51:57)

Wow. Wow, wow. Professor Bratt, thank you so much. Appreciate you, sir.

E (52:04)

You bet.

C (52:05)

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