WarRoom Battleground EP 921: Meet The New Boss, Same As The Old Boss: “Pope Leo” Continues Francis’s Radical Pro-INVASION Agenda

Summary

War Room Battleground EP 921: “Meet The New Boss, Same As The Old Boss: ‘Pope Leo’ Continues Francis’s Radical Pro-INVASION Agenda” – January 7, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of Bannon’s War Room, helmed by guest host Ben Harnwell, delves deep into the leadership and priorities of the newly elected Pope Leo, exploring how his agenda and style compare to (and in many ways mimic) those of Pope Francis. Key guests Frank Walker (Canon212.com) and Jenny Holland join the panel to analyze internal Catholic Church developments, reports of anti-Christian violence in Scotland, and the intersection of ecclesiastical trends with broader societal issues such as migration, secularism, and public health. The conversation is punctuated by strong opinions, skepticism about “synodality,” and an unvarnished critique of both church hierarchy and Western culture’s spiritual condition.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. The “Extraordinary Consistory” and Pope Leo’s Approach

[03:16-15:14]

Consistory Basics:

• Frank Walker explains to non-Catholics what a consistory is: a rare, special meeting of the College of Cardinals (the Pope’s senior advisors), usually to address urgent matters. This current “extraordinary consistory” was called by new Pope Leo.

Canon 212 and Traditionalist Expectations:

• There was hope among Catholic traditionalists that Pope Leo would be a return to tradition—a “second Ratzinger”—but the reality is proving otherwise. The expectation was for more dialogue and transparency.

Key Quote:

“The College of Cardinals… is a meeting for them to get together. They’re supposed to be advisors of the pope… And what they are having today is an extraordinary consistory, which is something they convened for some special, important and grave reason.”
— Frank Walker [03:16]

Difference (or Similarity) to Francis:

• Despite superficial differences in style, Pope Leo is running the Church much as Francis did: meeting structure as “cosmetic listening,” no real input from cardinals, and continued centralization of power.

Criticism of “Listening” and Synodality:

• Walker and Harnwell argue the notion of “listening” in the Church is largely a charade:

  “Whenever I hear that, I always think about how it’s not really about listening...”
  — Frank Walker [04:37]

• Synodal working groups are seen as “corporate,” segmenting discussion and limiting genuine debate.

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2. Leadership Style: Superficial Change, Substantive Continuity

[06:03-15:14]

• Francis is described as an “absolute monarch” who governed by telling cardinals what to do and feared their resistance.
• Leo is superficially more open—allowing cardinals to at least gather and talk—but the process is still tightly controlled:

  “Leo’s leadership style is appearing to be different in terms of the superficial cosmetic… but it’s all very much still Leo is in charge.”
  — Ben Harnwell [12:35]

• The panel insists the consistory is a “cosmetic exercise,” echoing Francis’ methods and goals with little transparency.

On Transparency:

“Do you have any observations on that point before we go to Jenny?”
— Ben Harnwell [13:35]

“He’s structuring them into what he wants. He’s telling them what he wants. He’s not treating them like Catholics… Leo’s difference from Francis is only superficial, but his goals are exactly the same and his methods are exactly the same.”
— Frank Walker [13:50-14:22]

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3. Rising Anti-Christian Attacks in Scotland

[17:38-26:02]

• Jenny Holland reports on a Christmas Eve desecration at St. Patrick’s Church, Edinburgh.
• A man and woman wrecked the church, including the destruction of the baby Jesus statue and desecration of relics; blood was spilled, but authorities quickly labeled it a “mental health incident,” not a hate crime.

Witness Account:

“Father Hatton comes down and says that the guy was very aggressive and rude and really angry at priests and the church… That seems… pretty intentional to me.”
— Ben Harnwell [19:14]

• Both Holland and Harnwell suggest the authorities’ avoidance of religious or sectarian labeling is suspicious, arguing that the attacks were clearly targeted at Christian symbols and may even have spiritual/demonic undertones.
• Walker links such attacks to broader satanic tendencies in woke and secular culture, referencing associated incidents across the West.

Memorable Moment:

“You are attacking the Catholic church, you’re attacking the things of Christ. That’s part of satanic ritual and that’s what it sounds like to me. And in Woke you do find Satanism.”
— Frank Walker [26:02]

• Holland contextualizes the attack within Scotland’s broader social and moral decline, attributing it to the rise of extreme “woke” policies and a decline in religious respect.

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4. Church Hierarchy, Migration, and the “Smell of the Sheep”

[31:40-43:52]

• Analysis of recent episcopal appointments in New York and the UK:

  • Both new archbishops are seen as prioritizing pro-migration, social justice themes—continuing both Francis’ and Leo’s approach.
  • The new Archbishop of Westminster, Richard Moth, likened the Holy Family to today’s migrants, a tactic the panel critiques harshly.
  • “Smell of the sheep” language (Francis’ encouragement for clergy to be close to the laity) is described as “…the people as this idol that is God himself, in fact.”
    — Frank Walker [38:18]

• The hosts and guests draw sharp contrasts between the rhetoric of empathy, “liberation theology,” and social justice, and what they perceive to be the neglect of traditional doctrine or genuine pastoral care.

Notable Sound Bite:

“You can’t be about Christmas and against migrants because Jesus and the Holy Family were migrants. And you know this tactic that they always use to make whatever their political cause into God. I find it offensive…”
— Frank Walker [32:55]

• Criticism of the Catholic hierarchy’s “asylum seeker” analogy:

  “They fled a legitimate terror. They worked. Right. And contributed. They didn’t just sponge off benefits. And… after the persecutions, they went back.”
  — Ben Harnwell [41:47]

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5. Breaking News & Social Commentary

[47:50-51:33]

• Jenny Holland introduces a study connecting the repeal of US “blue laws” (Sunday trading bans) to increased “deaths of despair”—suicide, alcoholism, and drug overdose—among white, middle-aged Christians.
  • Religious attendance fell as Sunday became commercialized, with attendance drops linked to a 40% rise in such mortality.

Key Quote:

“There was a 40% mortality increase in by 1996, the study says… I would like people to start thinking about this again, the turn back to tradition, where people are realizing that taking a day… for family and for faith provides exponential benefits… as in your health and your longevity.”
— Jenny Holland [47:50]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Frank Walker on Synodality:
  “They had some pre-reading… Francis’s opening manifesto, which is sort of his liberation theology church. …These things are already produced. They’re just supposed to study them.” [07:48]

• Ben Harnwell on Church Hierarchy:
  “The Pope is really answerable only to Christ on Judgment Day.” [06:03]

• On Wokeism as Spiritual Decay (Jenny Holland):
  “The worst excesses of WOKE appeared to me the same as demonic forces are described in the olden times. That is what drew me to Catholicism.” [24:10]

• On Appointments (Walker):
  “The migrants thing is the number one priority of this new guy.” [41:18]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Consistory and Leadership Comparison: 03:16–15:14
• Scottish Church Desecration: 17:38–26:02
• Church and Migration (Westminster/New York): 31:40–43:52
• Death of Despair and Blue Laws: 47:50–51:33

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Tone & Style

The discussion is spirited, combative, and laced with skepticism toward both recent developments in the Church and the broader Western socio-political trajectory. The hosts and guests blend inside-baseball Catholic detail with populist commentary, favoring blunt analysis, vivid imagery, and occasional humor.

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Closing Resources & Socials

• Frank Walker: canon212.com
• Jenny Holland: “Saving Culture from Itself” (YouTube), jennyeholland.substack.com

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This episode maps out the War Room’s view that Pope Leo is sustaining the revolutionary trajectory of Francis under the guise of a firmer hand; church appointments and consistory proceedings are interpreted as staging grounds for continued progressive social activism, particularly around migration and “synodal” reforms. The episode also unloads on the mainstream media, secular politics, and what they see as spiritual and moral decay in the Anglosphere—arguing for a return to genuine religious tradition as the cure for both churchly and societal dysfunction.

Transcript

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[B]

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I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

[B]

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What is my purpose? If that answer is to save my.

[B]

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[C]

Band Harnwell here at the helm on Steve Bannon's War room. Today's Wednesday, 7th of January. Had to do a quick check. They're slightly confused as to what year we're in. Anno Domini 2026. First time saying that on the Battleground Battleground Show. And joined with our regular Wednesday contributors, Frank Walker, Jenny Holland. Guys, I hope you had a nice Christmas and relaxing start to the new year.

[B]

Yeah, you too. I think you're busy. I think you caught a, caught a cold and you're out in the pouring rain from what I heard.

[C]

I was, I was. That's right. It was the new, it was the Christmas Eve show that we did live from St. Peter's I did get a cold and I was sort of down for. I think everyone in Italy, literally everybody seemed to come down with something over the New Year's festivities. Okay, lots to get on with the show today. I think the first thing I'd like to discuss is with you, Frank Walker. This somewhat, I think illustrates the point that Canon 2 12, War Room, Chris Jackson, that we were making right from the start in open contradiction. So our brothers over at Tradinc that Pope Leo was going to be some kind of heaven sent. Second Ratzinger We've got the Extraordinary Consistory. So starting today, it's going on for today and tomorrow. I think they had a session early on in this morning and then they're having two, three hour sessions or something like that tomorrow. Frank, why don't you just explain what Canon 212 is looking for to come out of this consistory, but before that for our non Catholic audience, explain what a consistory is. What is a consistory? What is the Sacred College of Cardinals?

[B]

I think that the, the College of Cardinals is not, doesn't go all the way back to the beginning the church that goes back more like a thousand years. And this is a meeting for them to get together. They're supposed to be advisors of the pope. There didn't used to be this many of them. There's a lot of them now. In fact, there's more than I think there is even required or permitted by canon law, from what I understand. And so a consistory is just a meeting of the cardinals with the pope. And what they are having today is an extraordinary consistory, which is something they convened for some special, important and grave reason. They have a consistory whenever they vote on the new pope. But this is supposed to have some reason. But the reason they. Leo convoked this is because he wanted to have more dialogue. The people said they didn't get enough ability to interact with Francis, and they were hoping that Leo would be more open to meeting with them. And he said, well, I'm all about listening, and so that's what I'll do. And that's what they were sort of expecting, and that's what's happening today.

[C]

So just give a bit of background on that. What was meant when people said that the late, very unlamented Francis didn't want to sit down and talk to his cardinals? What was meant by that?

[B]

Well, Francis church and Leo's church are the same kind of church. They're not really Catholic. They're just sort of this new thing. And they've always said that they're all about listening, but whenever I hear that, whenever I hear that, I always think about how it's not really about listening. And so the first constituent in 2013, I think, and Francis had a speaker, Cardinal Casper, who came and he told everybody that people who are in a state of mortal sin, divorced and remarried, should be permitted to go to communion. And it created quite a stir. And after that, Francis sort of gave up on the whole idea of meeting with cardinals again. He created this organization, the Gang of Nine, we call it, to reinvent the Curia. And they would meet and Francis would meet with them, and he would meet selectively with cardinals, but he would never have a consistent. Until 2022, he had one. And it was basically. There wasn't much listening to it. The document they were discussing had already been written, so they didn't really have any input. Francis was never really about input from the cardinals. He was about telling the cardinals what to do. He was about control. And they had resented that, and they hoped that Leo was going to be different. So he convoked this consistory, and it was supposed to be different. But like you say, I agree with you. It's sort of a tradinc, hopefully that was not realized.

[C]

It was a tradinc hoax. So one of the criticisms people made about Francis was that whilst he talked about collegiality, he actually governed like. Well, he is, let's be honest, in terms of the Catholic Church's governance structure, the Pope is. Any pope is an absolute monarch. Whether they want to be more collaborative or not is up to their own personal leadership, charism. But all of the, all of the functions and responsibilities and powers for the governing of the governance of the universal church are basically in the person of the Pope. And of course, the Pope delegates because it's a worldwide church, but he is really answerable only to Christ on Judgment Day. So the other thing I wanted to quickly ask you, Frank Walker, is that staying on the theme of Pope Francis, one of the criticisms was that not only was he not remotely interested in what his cardinals had to say, he actually didn't want them physically getting together and talking amongst themselves because he feared the possibility that they were going to lobby against him, that they were going to resist somewhat, some of his reforms with regards to Leo, even if he's under no obligation whatsoever to listen to his cardinals. And, you know, they'll put. They'll put out a report and he'll accept the report, no doubt, and it will be somewhat of a cosmetic exercise, at least on the point that he's not terrified of the idea that his cardinals are going to get together and talk over the water cooler.

[B]

Yeah, well, I think that this, well, this effort is sort of superficial. You know, cardinals are. Our good leader has access to his top people, like you've seen today in the Trump administration. There's some good people there and you rely on good people and they represent the entire planet in terms of, in the Church's case. So he really does need to interact with them. And all of the cardinals were hoping for was to be able to get to know each other, like you say. And they didn't get to know each other or have access to Leo. They really wanted better access to him. And what they didn't know until just now was when you look at the agenda here, that it's just a bunch of sonata working groups. You know, I can, in 212, I put up a picture of this, this very sad working group that you would see in any company or we have to get in a group and that they have discussion points and then they report back and they're not going to ever really interact so much with Leo. Leo's going to give a speech, then they're going to talk to each other and then they have only 45 minutes before lunch to actually talk to the group and have an interaction between the group that's not in these very closely governed small groups. And then they have another moment. This is just a, it's starting today and it'll be over tomorrow evening. Another moment right before Leo's closing speech. Now nobody's going to want to over talk it. Right when it's almost time for Leo and nobody's going to want it, people are going to disappear for lunch. It's just they're very disappointed, I think, because what they're ending up getting is, is something that we don't even know. I mean, what are they discussing? The issues that are supposed to be discussed at this meeting are synods and synodality and oh, the liturgy too. But how are they going to talk about. Yeah, I don't know if the liturgy is going to have time to be discussed. We really don't know what they're going to discuss. They had some pre reading. They had like Francis's opening manifesto, which is sort of his liberation theology church. And they have the new constitution of the church that was released by the gang of nine, now gang of six, that rewrote the constitution of the church. These things are already produced. They're just supposed to study them. And we just found out today that Cardinal Timothy Radcliffe, who is a gay activist, like a Father James Martin type of guy, going back a long way, he's over 80 or so now, is going to be giving the meditation. And so it's much like when, when Francis did this and Cardinal Casper gave his evil speech. Radcliffe is going to give a speech. They're going to work in a small group. Radcliffe just said yesterday he wants lady deacons, he wants women's ordination and maybe that's what they'll be discussing. I think these synods are just a way of camouflaging their movement towards some nefarious goal that they can't admit. So that's what they'll be working on. But we don't know what that's going to be right now.

[C]

Just for reference to our largely American audience, Cardinal Radcliffe was, was leaders of what world? What's the title? The head of the Dominican Order? The Franciscan. The, the Dominican Mendicant Order. I forget his precise title as the head of that. This was, this was the found the order founded 800 years ago by St. Dominic, really to protect the orthodoxy in doctrine and dogma, it was founded, I think against the Alger Benjian heresy in the south of France. And to see what that has come. Francis appointed this guy as a cardinal over, I think it was over the voting age of the conclave, voting age of 80. So it's a symbolic maneuver and as you say, he's, he's a heterodox figure. Just quickly on this point, Frank, just give me, just give me 60 seconds. Right on. Firstly, I just want to recap what you said as a difference in leadership style between Pope Leo and Pope Francis. Francis was absolutely terrified of resistance in the church because he was doing it. A lot of his more scandalous reforms he was claiming was, was being requested by the bishops, by the cardinals, by the laity. We've since found out, thanks to some sterling work by Diane Montagne, that that was all, all literally lies. It was literally made up and misrepresented questionnaires. But Francis was absolutely terrified of his. Even though he did govern as an absolute monarch, an absolute dictator, as is his right as pope in terms of governance, he was terrified that his cardinals would get together. So I think it's fair to synthesize what you're saying. Frank Walker. Leo's leadership style is appearing to be different in terms of the superficial cosmetic. Okay, I don't have anything to fear from these cardinals. After all, they elected him on the fourth ballot in record time. So let them come together for two days. They're going to be in Rome anyway for the epiphany. A lot of them. Let them come together, let them talk over the water cooler, let them produce whatever statements they want to say. But it's all very much still Leo is in charge. What I quickly want to ask you, just give me 60 seconds on this, Frank. What conclusions do you draw? I know it's not unusual that these things normally do take place behind closed doors, but in the light of talking about synodality and the greater the supposed transparency and the co running of the church with the laity, that, that Francis endlessly intimated this consistency taking place behind closed doors. As you said, we have no idea what they're saying. Do you have like any observations on that point before we go to Jenny?

[B]

Well, they, they, I think that Leo maybe slightly in manner is different. You know, now they're reporting that Leo is a moderate, you know, but, but six months ago they were reporting Mr. Tradition and I think that Leo is, he's a sort of very superficially different. But what he's doing here is exactly the same thing that, that Francis would do. He's structuring them into what he wants. He's telling them what he wants. He's not, he's treating them really, he's not treating them like Catholics. Catholic men treat each other with respect. They share the same doctrine. No, your doctrine doesn't have a place here. What you're supposed to do is exactly what you're told. You submit your report and, and then we'll consider it. You know, Leo is, his difference from Francis is only superficial, but his goals are exactly the same and his methods are exactly the same. And so I think that's the lesson to be drawn here from this, the fact that it's so like you said, they're going to be there anyway. He's just tossing this out to them. It's interesting that Bishop Barron, I noticed he, he, he, he actually scolded Leo just the other day. I know we, you know, Bishop Barron, you wouldn't expect him to actually sort of condemn Leo and condemn Senate Ality but I know he's associated with the Trump, with the White House these days but that to me seems to be a bit of a shift. But I don't understand why I know why he did it now because this is a pushing citadelity. That's what this is all about. Like Stephen Cox said, the blogger is sanitizing synodality by bringing the cardinals in and making it look more legitimate.

[C]

We'll certainly keep our beady eyes fixed on this one, Frank Walker, and I'm sure you will as well at Canon 212. We're going to go in a moment to Jenny to hear an astonishing story from Scotland from Edinburgh, the capital of Scotland to do with an act of desecration on I think it was Christmas Eve. But before that a new year means new financial goals like making sure your savings are secure and diversified. Will this be the year you finally listen to the war room and talk to someone from Birch Gold Group? Honestly, they're great people. We at the war Room appreciate their educational approach and their understanding of macroeconomics. There are forces pushing the dollar lower and gold higher which is why they believe every American should own physical gold. So until January the, the 30th, if you are a first time gold buyer, Birchgold is offering a rebate of up to $10,000 on qualifying purchases. To claim eligibility and start the process, just text a Bannon to 989-898. Birch Gold can help you roll an existing IRA or 401k into an IRA in gold and you're still eligible for for that rebate of up to $10,000. Make right now your first time to buy gold and take advantage of a rebate of up to $10,000 when you buy by January 30th. Text A Bannon. That's B A double N O N the 989-898. Claim your eligibility today. Again, Tex Bannon to 989-898. Okay, Jenny, when I saw this story, I was absolutely horrified. And what interested me more than anything was the statement that the Scottish police came out and put out immediately in real time, which seems to be somewhat contradicted by the actual sort of facts on the ground coming out of this church of St Patrick's in Edinburgh. Why don't you tell us why what exactly happened and what the police said and what actually sort of what, what the priest who was first on the scene reported.

[D]

Yeah, so this happened on Christmas Eve. According to one account in I think it was the Times. The priests were having a meal together and the church had been left open for people to come in and pray on Christmas Eve. And there was a disturbance and they found a man and a woman essentially wrecking the place. They had taken the baby Jesus out of the crib, I believe, ripped it apart, ripped its arm off and ripped its head off. The police stated in this sort of roundabout way, as did the statement from the church, that blood was spilled. So they never actually said what that what the blood was caused by where it came from. But there was also desecration of relics in the chapel and in the sanctuary. The police were quick to point out that what they called it a mental health incident and not a sectarian incident. The perpetrators of this were a man and a woman, one of whom was described as English. So this is all code for this wasn't some sort of other religion attacking this church. It was two people having a mental health crisis, quote, unquote. I find that choice of words to be very interesting and I find the whole story very unsettling and somewhat sinister. What do you think, Ben?

[C]

Well, let's look at what Father Gerard Hatton said. He's one of the church's three piece. And it's important to say that in Scotland, in Edinburgh, the this is one of the, this is one of the cultural homes of Catholicism in Scotland, very important church. So Father Hatton comes down and says that the guy was very aggressive and rude and really angry at priests and the church. Now, Jenny, that seems to me to be a first person witness account describing these events as pretty intentional to me, I repeat that he was really angry at priests and the church and the police statement that they put out said it was not believed to be a hate crime targeted at Catholics and the incident is understood to have been mental health related. Well, you know, I. And as you point out, the. The desecration of the relics was in the Lady Chapel. So we see here desecration of the baby Jesus and then violence expressed towards the Virgin Mary. Two things that I think serious Catholics will start collecting dots and wonder if there is something beyond being mentally unhinged here. These are the representations of Christ and of the Virgin Mary immediately come under contact, under attack, but by the diabolic, always and everywhere.

[D]

Yeah, one other thing, the guy says.

[C]

Jenny, let me just let me bring this one to you. And they also said that threats were made against them and, and someone said, you're finished here. So this seems to be pretty Eastern, as I say. Pretty. That's right. Pretty intentional. That's right. It was on the Easter vigil. I don't understand how that the statement that the church puts out thanking people for their prayers and concern with regards to the Christmas Eve desecration. I don't understand why the statement says that it's not sectarian in nature and that it requires spiritual medicine. Yes, that seems to be a slight contradiction to me.

[D]

Yeah, and when I interrupted you I was going to say about the threats made against them on Easter. Of course it doesn't say by whom. No, I completely agree with you. There's something very sinister about this in that the specifics of the attack and the kind of coded language being used is, raises a lot of suspicions as to what possibly this could be. If it's not sectarian. Okay, Notice that that's a carefully chosen word. So it's not. They're not saying it was a Protestant attack or a Muslim attack, but then it was obviously an attack and it was obviously religiously motivated. Otherwise why the baby Jesus and why the Virgin Mary's chapel now? I mean, who knows? I mean this is an old. Like you say, it's an old and beautiful church in the most beautiful part of Edinburgh, which is one of the most beautiful cities in Europe with a tremendous amount of history and the wider context of this, and I bring you tales from the insane secular world now is that Scotland is among all of the woke small nations of the west, the probably the wokest and the craziest. It has been in the grips of some of the most insane, woke totalitarian, idiotic government policy of anywhere else in the world. Just as a very brief example from the sacred to the profane, someone I know who used to live there drew my attention to a story that appeared this weekend in Scottish local media of a man who invited all and sundry to come to a park in Glasgow, as he said, to give him a big boot in the balls, as in kick him in the testicles to celebrate his impending castration, which they call bottom surgery. So a trans identified man and the media is covering this like it's how fun, how quirky. This is the same country that appointed a period Dignity Officer In 2022, a government funded position which they then gave to a man. So I mean Scotland, I mean, and these are the most sort of silly examples, there's a lot of other far more serious examples of the degradation of Scotland, its education, its working class communities and the elevation of these insane WOKE commissars. So that I think, I mean one of the reasons, one of the things that drew me towards Catholicism specifically was watching how insane the world world was becoming under the influence of woke. And even as a secular atheist, a person who was secular my entire life, it was very apparent to me that the, the worst excesses of WOKE appeared to me the same as demonic forces are described in the olden times. That is what drew me to Catholicism. So when I look at the story of the church in Edinburgh, I agree with you wholeheartedly. I think, I hope that the, the priests in charge of that church are attending to this problem that they seem to have, as in people coming in and attacking them and threatening them on the most holy days of the Christian year. And really I'd ask the audience in general to pray for Scotland because it's in a very dark place.

[C]

Let me just. We've got 60 seconds before we go to the book. I just want to ask Frank Walker, who attends to these things with great, with great interest. Just give me very quickly if you can. When you hear Jenny talking now and you hear these stories of violence and hatred and outrage not only directed against the baby Jesus, but also against the Virgin Mary, what do you. And the newspaper accounts by the way actually described? I think it was either the guy or the woman taking the statue of the Christian and smashing it repeatedly on the ground, what is the first thing that comes to your mind? Frank Walker? Both Jenny and I had suggested the diabolic. Here, tell me what you think.

[B]

Yes, that's what I thought too. And there's also a reference in the story to blood, some kind of blood satanic is means. You are attacking the Catholic church, you're attacking the things of Christ. That's part of satanic ritual and that's what it sounds like to me. And in Woke you do find Satanism. There's a story just last week about a beautiful monastery with an amazing tabernacle and the only thing that happened was they stole the Blessed Sacrament from the tabernacle. They didn't break anything. Well, why do they want the blessed sacrament? This is a common thing. Satanists do attack priests. They do hate priests and they do hate churches. And they do exist, not just, not just in Edinburgh, not just among the WOKE movement, but among the halls of power in Hollywood. Behind the scenes is the religion of the anti church and their whole point is to attack the religion of God. And that's what I thought right away. I agree with you.

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Of the newfound well since before we Took Christmas break. There have been some developments in terms of ecclesiastical appointments both to New York, which I think we might have mentioned just in December, but also to the primatial, see the Catholic Churches, the Catholic hierarchies, primatial sea in England and Wales, which is Westminster. And our second ratzinger, the, the great hope to restore conservatism and traditionalism to the Catholic Church. Pope Leo has appointed two guys who are very much, I wouldn't even say in his image. They're in Francis image. Frank Walker. Let's start off with the, the new Archbishop of Westminster first, a guy called Richard Moth who likened Mary, Jesus and Joseph to migrants arriving in Britain. Tell us more about this character.

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Well, he, he was the head of the military diocese for a while. He, he has not unlike the new bishop of New York, he's a little bit more comfortable on his feet. That and he was up there, I saw a little bit of his talk next to the outgoing Archbishop Nichols, Cardinal Nichols, and they were just sitting together. And yeah, he's all about social justice. He's all about migrants, which is the same thing that they have in New York, the migrants in the UK when you talk about migrants from the church, your job is to scold all the peoples down and to stop them from resisting the full on Islamization of the UK and in the United States, they're all about migrants and the new guy is about migrants. But in that case, it's all about Trump and the deportations. Two different, the same issue but two different angles. And here he is giving his speech and he's really all about that synodality, just like they're going on with and right now in Rome with the consistory. He's all about listening. He's all about, he tells stories about how he listened over and over, how he went four times back in his old diocese to listen to the people. It doesn't say whether he paid any attention to what he heard. But in the UK they're much more about silencing your opinion, your Catholic opinion. But both cases in New York and in the UK it's all about politics. Bishop Moth, who's now been given the biggest diocese, he's there to counteract Tommy Robinson and Nigel Farage and their political movement where they're actually bringing in, unlike in the United States, they're bringing in Christianity in a new way. And they're saying they're all about Christmas. This Bishop Moth says, well, you can't be about Christmas and against migrants because Jesus and the Holy Family were migrants. And you know this tactic that they always use to make whatever their political cause into God. I find it offensive and you know, I don't think that he's going to be, I don't think he's going to be that effective against these guys. He's very, I think find him a little bit snooty. He's very snooty. He's very, you know, patronizing. And I think that's probably a thing that happens there a lot. And I don't think that the. Tommy Robinson was a hero to the UK and Nigel Farage just talks directly to people. I don't think, I don't think the competition is going to be very strong as in New York where the guy has absolutely no charisma, unlike Cardinal Dolan. Yeah. So I think just like with, with Leo himself, you know, you have to kind of worker.

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It's a cold day in hell today. I never thought I was ever going to hear you say a kind word, kind word about Cardinal Dolan, but there it is. We've heard it on the war room today on 7th of January. There it is folks. We'll start, we'll timestamp that and get that out on social media. So Tommy Robinson led a carol concert in London in which he claimed that the scope was to put Christ back into Christmas. That didn't go down well either with the Anglicans or the Catholics. The hierarchies, by the way, I'm not talking about the actual faithful. It went down very well with the faithful. Let's just go. Come back, however, to the Archbishop elect moth who over who, who spoke on the importance, the priority of welcoming the stranger and refer to the enriching contribution that people born in countries across the world bring to the uk. Well, you know, if anyone who checks out my getter profile will see I. I'm chock block full with illustrations of the cultural enrichment that's taking place right across continental Europe. Tell me something. Because the late unlamented Pope Francis went on and on and on and on and on and on and on about priests, parish priests especially, needing to have the, to have the smell of the sheep about them, suggesting that in his fantasy, in his fantasy, in the idea of the church that he hated so much, you had these stern, rigid, doctrinaire parish priests leaning over the lecterns, the pulpits every Sunday sort of read, sort of reading chapter and verse on moral theology to parishioners to which I can only open brackets. I can only add, if only let me know where these guys are because I'm like a beeline there. And to his, his counter to that, Frank Walker, was that he wanted parish priests to be more pastoral and that they had to have the smell of the sheep. He wanted pastors, shepherds who had the, the smell of the sheep. Tell me, because I talked to Catholics back in my beloved homeland quite a bit and they're all universally very concerned about how the invasion, the Third World invasion, is actually ruining the social free fabric right across the uk. Where is the smell of the sheep in these two episcopal appointments?

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It's, it's in what they call liberation theology. It's this theology that makes the peoples, the people as this idol that is God himself, in fact. And that's why this new Archbishop of Westminster is so warm and welcoming. His personality is so flawed friendly. It's, I, I find it somewhat repulsive, but I call it, I call it on canrew12, the joy face. He has the joy face really. Well, just recently, Bishop Hicks, who is not only did his old chancellor get gay married, but his Vicar General was at the wedding and Pope Leo was asked about this new chancellor and he said no comment. Well, there's a new, a new talk with him out there after his flopped talk that he gave with Cardinal Dolan when he's introduced and he talks about how when he was in Latin America, everybody in the church has to work in Latin America and they have to all be funneled to Chicago and Cardinal Cupid somehow. But when this Archbishop Hicks was in Latin in El Salvador, it's the peoples that changed him. The peoples transformed him by being among them. They were poor, but they were united to Christ. They were just like superhuman peoples. That's what the smell of the sheep is. It's not the actual people. It's not, it's not the people that work hard. It's not the people that are trying to help each other and love each other. And it's not the people who are being abused by their own Nazi rulers like in the UK that Tommy Robinson is fighting for. It's not them. It's this, it's this peoples that enables the communism where you have totalitarians who rule over all the peoples. It's, it's completely opposite of what they say it is. And they have turned it into a religion. And you can't be reminded enough that this is the religion of Leo's church and they're bringing it in. They mentioned in the piece, when they discuss, when they're discussing the new cardinal in New York, that people need to realize they just brought in A guy from the Dominican Republic into Palm beach where Mar A Lago is and they need to start listening to the Church and listening to the peoples. This is all political. The piece that we looked at at the Financial Times, which is a neoconstral about the new Archbishop of New York, Bishop Hicks, is all about Cardinal Dolan, how Cardinal Dolan fought Obamacare, how Cardinal Dolan was happy the day that they elected Trump. I mean that is the enemy. Even though we look at Colonel Dolan, we say, well what did he do that was so great? The fact that he even uttered a peep politically is why they love this new Archbishop of New York. Even though he's so, he's going to be so repulsive to people. He probably won't have any kind of media presence whatsoever. It doesn't matter as long as he's not Cardinal Dolan and he never ever says anything nice about Catholics or conservatives. It's the same in all politics.

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The problem with Cardinal Dolan for the mainstream media, for the liberal Catholic press, Colonel Donean wasn't a communist and that obviously for some sections of the church is basically tantamount to being a goose stepping fascist. I just want to add one thing before we go over to Jenny who's got an amazing story, I think about the report on the collapse of health and the death mortality rate due to the the United States moving changing Sunday trading laws. We'll go to that in a moment. I just want to make an observation to this, right, because the new Archbishop Elect of Westminster, who is the de facto spiritual leader of English Catholics, right, put out a statement along with the Archbishop of Birmingham, which is the next big Catholic diocese in England, calling for empathy towards migrants. As you said in the beginning Frank, of your, of your introduction, this, the migrants thing is the number one priority of this new guy. I'd have a comment, you know, I don't want to be too provocative but you know, when this, when they're sort of putting out these statements, reminding people that, or trying to get people to believe that the Holy Family were asylum seekers. I have a very quick reflection in as far as that is true. When St. Joseph led the Holy Family out into Egypt, first point to make, they were actually fleeing an authentic genuine persecution, the Massacre of the Innocents, right, led by King Herod. Point one, point two, they worked, they didn't live sponging off the of benefits paid for by the Egyptians. And point three, most importantly, when the persecution finished, they went back and settled back in Nazareth, right? These are three things that you Never hear our Catholic hierarchy talking about when they're saying that we have to have empathy for migrants and like and suggesting that the Holy Family were asylum seekers. Three fundamental points here. You never see the Catholic Church referring to with regards to invaders. They fled a legitimate terror. They worked. Right. And contributed. They didn't just sponge off benefits. And then after that, and then after the persecutions, they went back.

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Yeah, they were great citizens while they were in Egypt too, from what the, the visionaries have said. You know, I forgot to mention, I forgot to mention for your, your listeners that this, at this, this meeting, this consistory, they're having a new un Eucharistic prayer for various needs where they're going to talk about unity and pulling all the human race together as one. A bunch of evil stuff right close to the can in the canon of the Mass that they've never used before. They've just sort of tabled it. It was a Paul VI idea. This gives us a hint of the liturgy that they're going to be discussing for your people. It's a hint they might be discussing how to ruin the liturgy in a whole new way. I just want to get that out there because that's like new news. It was referenced by Chris Hale, what I call the apparatchik. Chris Hale from the Obama administration, the apparatchik who's brought this together. So I think it's meaningful.

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Just, I just want to flag up. When you said that they were praying for unity, I heard you say. Because I'm all blocked up at the moment, mentally as well. I heard you say that they're praying for nudity. Play playback tapes. I'm sure.

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That's something I'm sure they would. I'm sure that's something they pray for. I don't think they did look regarding to Jenny now. Thanks, Frank. We'll come back to you for the socials in just five minutes. Before we go to Jenny, however, let me tell you something. I don't bring partners onto this show unless they help the American people. And All Family Pharmacy is doing exactly that, giving you access to the medications your family deserves. If you're tired of battling a broken system and begging for prescriptions, you need All Family Pharmacy. When someone at home wakes up coughing at 2am and I'm certainly doing that right now, and the pharmacy is closed, you need All Family Pharmacy where you can order online and get it overnight. And if your doctor refuses to prescribe Ivermectin after seeing what it can do, you need All Family Pharmacy this is a real American family business. They move fast, they operate with integrity, and they get you what you need without the hassle. Tamiflu, antibiotics, Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine. I don't know how to. This must be an American brand name. I'm not sure how you say this. Mebendazole and more. It's simple. Order online, a doctor reviews your prescription and you get medications shipped to your drawer in just a few days. Check them out. Go to allfamilypharmacy.com that's all one word, allfamilypharmacy.com Bannon and use code Bannon10 for your next 10% in your subsequent order. And I realize there are many choices when it comes to who you choose for your cell phone service and there are new ones popping up all the time. But here's the truth. There's only one that boldly stands in the gap for every American that believes freedom is worth fighting for. And that's Patriot Mobile. For more than 12 years, Patriot Mobile has been on the front lines for fighting for our God given rights and freedoms whilst also providing exceptional nationwide cell phone service with access to all three of the main networks. So you got to call Patriot Mobile's US based support team. They're standing by to receive your call on 972 Patriot today or go to patriotmobile.com Bannon use promo code Bannon for a free month of service. That's patriot mobile. All one word, patriotmobile.com Bannon or call 972-PATRIOT and make the switch today. Jenny, tell me. I know that the grains of sand are trickling down to the hourglass. Tell me about this report and the damage that the repeal of the Sunday trading laws have done in the 1980s in the States have done to the mortality rate of white middle aged Christians.

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Yeah, this is astounding actually. So a study in the Journal of European Economic association, if I think I'm getting it right, found that from 1961 to 1991, which is the time span of the states sort of independently repealing the no trading on Sunday laws, that deaths of despair went up and that there was a strong link between the Sunday trading, starting Sunday trading, and eventually the deaths of despair among middle aged people. I think the exact wording was that data confirmed that religious attendance fell among middle aged residents in states that repealed the blue laws, which were the laws prohibiting Sunday trading. And that was followed by rising death rates from suicide, liver disease and drug poisoning. Now the fact that they're so categorical in linking and so strongly linking these these things is really extraordinary to me. There was a 40% mortality increase in by 1996, the study says. And to me, actually, there's a couple of things that really stand out in this to me. One is the sort of very clear link that they show. Two is that the study was published at all. It was done by researchers from Wesley College and Notre Dame and Ohio State. And, you know, we're more accustomed to seeing stories about crazy studies about, you know, is my dog trans or something coming out of these journals and these at these woke universities. But in this case, something actually valuable might have snuck through. And the other thing I want to say is that actually it reminds me very poignantly of the late Charlie Kirk's most recent book, which was published recently, which was about the importance of honoring the Sabbath. I think that I hope, I hope this study is widely read. I'm glad, I'm glad we're showcasing it on the show because I would like people to start thinking about this again, the turn back to tradition, where people are realizing that taking a day and keeping it for family and for faith and only family and faith provides exponential benefits in the material world, as in your health and your longevity.

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Jenny, thanks. And I'm very grateful that you flagged this up, this story up over the Christmas break. The actual fact here, that really is quite surprising because if you think about it, it's quite a high figure. The, the number of deaths due to despair, which is a very tragic thing even to contemplate, increased by about two out of every hundred thousand people. And the report that you have, that sort of indicates the, the breakdown of the details. I just want to thank you, Jenny and Frank Walker for, for, for your, for coming on and sharing insights with us. There has been some breaking news on the show since we've been on air, which our producer Cameron Wallace did ask me to mention. And that's to do with the ICE agent fatally shooting a woman who was attempting to run over an ICE agent as they were about their duties. That's in Minneapolis. And that the War Room is going to be reporting on that development later on. Quickly, 30 seconds left. Jenny, where do people go on social media to get you? Frank Walker? Where do people go on social media to get you? Jenny, you first.

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Well, I have a new YouTube channel and I'd like to tell War Room that tomorrow Ben Harnwell, the one and only Ben Harnwell, will be featured on it. That's called Saving Culture from Itself. And I also write Every week I write an essay on my sub stack which is at jennyeholland.substack.com Frank Walker 10.

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