Podcast Summary: Bannon’s War Room Battleground eP 927
Title: Stopping Sharia Law Will Crumble The Islamic Conquest
Date: January 15, 2026
Host: Stephen K. Bannon (WarRoom.org)
Guests: Frank Gaffney, David Hoak, Nick Shirley, Aaron Reitz, Matt Shea
Episode Overview
This episode centers on claims of an "Islamic conquest" through "civilizational jihad," alleged financial fraud tied to childcare facilities with purported connections to Muslim-owned businesses, and an urgent campaign to ban Sharia law in Texas through Proposition 10 on the March 3rd Republican primary ballot. The discussions intertwine investigative reporting, guest interviews, campaign advocacy, and calls for grassroots action, positioning Texas as a key battleground in what the hosts and guests describe as a struggle to protect American civilization from what they see as the encroachment of Islamic law.
Key Discussion Points and Insights
1. Allegations of Islamic “Civilizational Jihad” and Financial Fraud ([00:08]–[11:25])
- Frank Gaffney opens with a warning, “Islamic jihadis are plotting against you.” (00:08)
- Stephen K. Bannon accuses Muslim communities in Texas of conspiring to “overthrow Western civilization” by forming “Sharia compounds…governed by religious rules.” (00:12)
- The segment transitions to an on-site investigation of Hopkins Child Care Center in Minnesota:
- David Hoak and Nick Shirley question the legitimacy of millions in state funding to facilities with no visible activity or children, suggesting fraud tied to Somali-owned businesses (02:00–04:13).
- Security guards at the daycare forcefully eject the investigators, refusing to answer questions about funding or operations.
- Bannon frames this as evidence of a broader, orchestrated infiltration:
“The president is thinking of invoking the Insurrection act to actually clean up the mess in Minneapolis.” (05:17)
Notable Quote
"You have to pick your one battle as your ground zero and then you have to work out from there…It's too overwhelming [otherwise]."
—David Hoak, on conducting investigations (06:08)
2. Expanding the Inquiry to Texas: Systematized Subversion and Money Flows ([06:56]–[12:18])
- Bannon suggests that “tens to maybe hundreds of millions of dollars” in Texas taxpayer money is flowing to “Islamic centers, Islamic businesses.”
- David Hoak describes his investigative methods: identifying suspicious ownership patterns, tracking funding, and leveraging government registry data:
“99% of them were Somali owned. And I said, well, why would they have so many childcare facilities? …I never, in seven years, I never ever saw one child at any of the hundreds of childcare facilities…” (07:39) - Frank Gaffney situates current developments in Texas as evidence of the “civilizational jihad” strategy, quoting the so-called “Explanatory Memorandum” and arguing:
"The process of settlement is a civilization jihadist process… a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying Western civilization from within." (13:09)
Notable Quote
“If we lose Texas, we lose the nation. And yes, we lose Western civilization with it inevitably.”
—Frank Gaffney (17:58)
3. Focusing on Sharia Law as the “Key to the Islamic Apparatus” ([15:14]–[18:47])
- Bannon and Gaffney argue that banning Sharia law is the critical point:
“If you focus on Sharia, that…can bring down the entire apparatus of this Islamic conquest.” (15:34) - Gaffney describes Sharia as “not a religion… but a toxic, demonic and anti-constitutional ideology. It's communism with this patina of religiosity.” (16:47)
- They advocate to make “banning Sharia a voting issue across America in this fall’s elections.” (25:27)
Notable Quote
“It is a political program for world domination. And you're right, it picks the lock when you focus on that.”
—Frank Gaffney (17:32)
4. Historical Framing and the “Islamic Threat” to Texas ([18:47]–[23:48])
- Bannon references early Islamic conquests, the Battle of Tours, and the Siege of Vienna to support the narrative of a long-standing Islamic threat.
- He asks Gaffney why Texas is now “targeted,” discussing immigration and the alleged “subtle” means of infiltration:
“They come in on cat’s paws, right? Very, very subtly.” (19:37) - Gaffney links this to the prophet Muhammad’s emigration (hijra) as a model for “subverting” host societies. He invokes Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign promise to dismantle “the support networks of radical Islam.” (22:14)
5. Proposition 10 and Legal-Policy Battle in Texas ([31:29]–[41:49])
- Aaron Reitz, candidate for Texas Attorney General, claims Texas is “ground zero for the Islamic invasion into the United States.” (32:33)
- He emphasizes the growing Muslim population post–1960s immigration reforms and after 9/11, claiming many are “unassimilable.”
- Details legal actions underway, such as lawsuits against entities accused of fraud and the executive order labeling CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood as terrorist organizations, which Reitz asserts triggers new legal tools to combat Islamic organizations in Texas (34:22).
- Reitz positions himself as the only “battle-tested” candidate able to “go to war against the civilizational invaders up and down the justice system and in court.” (36:12)
- Promotes support for Prop 10 to ban Sharia law in Texas, calling for overwhelming Republican turnout.
Notable Quote
“Texas is ground zero for the Islamic invasion into the United States… But more importantly, the Attorney General can now use [new] tools to repel the Islamic invasion in Texas.”
—Aaron Reitz (32:33–36:12)
6. Community Mobilization: Education, Civil Action, and “Counter-Jihad” ([41:52]–[51:18])
- Matt Shea explains his group’s mission: “We educate, equip, and empower pastors and citizens” to oppose “communist and jihadi networks.” (42:42)
- Shea recounts organizing community resistance, advocating for Christians to “stand and not run away,” and emphasizing legal education about constitutional incompatibility with Sharia law.
- He describes how mosques are allegedly used for more than worship, including “military barracks” and “adjudicating Sharia law.”
- Shea points to the False Claims Act (qui tam) as a tool for citizens to sue entities that defraud the government, promoting civil litigation as part of a “war chest” against fraud in state-funded programs (45:07–47:12).
Notable Quote
“Islam is not a religion. It is a complete way of life…over half of the Quran is overtly political…This is really, Steve, all about Sharia law. At the very core of this, we are making a choice.”
—Matt Shea (45:07)
7. Mobilizing the Church and Evangelicals for Political and Cultural Confrontation ([48:48]–[51:18])
- Shea promotes training for pastors and citizens to fight what he calls the "Islamicization" of America, highlighting the need for church engagement:
“The largest footprint…that can push back…is the church. But pastors need to step forward.” - Bannon urges starting a “mass movement to convert the Muslims to Christianity.” (49:39)
- Shea responds that evangelization is already occurring and that resistance to Sharia is necessary to maintain America’s freedoms.
Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments
- "We're going to tell them, take your Sharia law and shove it. Islam will never dominate the United States, and by the grace of God, it will not dominate Texas."
—Stephen K. Bannon (00:56–01:00) - “The process of settlement is a civilization jihadist process…a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying Western civilization from within.”
—Frank Gaffney, quoting the “Explanatory Memorandum” (13:09) - “If you focus on Sharia…that can bring down the entire apparatus of this Islamic conquest.”
—Stephen K. Bannon (15:34) - "Texas is ground zero for the Islamic invasion into the United States… the tools that are available to the Attorney General are uniquely suited to stop the invasion."
—Aaron Reitz (32:33, 34:26) - “Islam is not a religion. It is a complete way of life…This is really… about Sharia law. At the very core of this, we are making a choice.”
—Matt Shea (45:07)
Timestamps for Important Segments
| Timestamp | Segment/Content Summary | |------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:08 | Opening alarms: “Islamic jihadis are plotting against you.” —Gaffney | | 02:00 | Investigative segment — Hoak and Shirley at Hopkins Child Care Center | | 05:17 | Bannon: Call for national action, invoking “Insurrection Act” | | 06:08 | Hoak: Strategy for grassroots investigation | | 07:39 | Hoak: Observations on Somali-owned childcare facilities | | 13:09 | Gaffney: Cites “civilization jihad” playbook | | 15:34 | Bannon: “Sharia… as the key to the Islamic apparatus” | | 16:47 | Gaffney: Sharia described as “communism with religiosity” | | 19:37 | Bannon: Historical Ottoman/Muslim conquests, strategic threat to Texas | | 22:14 | Gaffney: Trump’s 2016 speech on radical Islamic ideology | | 25:27 | Gaffney: BanSharia.com campaign, call to action | | 32:33 | Aaron Reitz: Texas as “ground zero,” immigration arguments | | 34:22 | Legal levers in Texas against Islamic organizations | | 36:12 | Reitz: “Battle-tested” legal campaign; endorsement by Ken Paxton | | 42:42 | Matt Shea: Training churches and citizens, resisting Islamic law | | 45:07 | Shea: Argument that “Islam is not a religion” | | 48:48 | Shea: Calls for mass engagement, programs for pastors and activists | | 49:39 | Bannon: Call for “mass movement to convert Muslims to Christianity” | | 51:01 | Shea: Social media and state legislative action |
Resources and Calls to Action
- BanSharia.com — informational and activist hub promoted by Frank Gaffney (25:27)
- America’s Future (americasfuture.net) — Matt Shea’s training and mobilization resource (48:48)
- Web and Socials:
- Frank Gaffney: @FrankGaffney (X/Twitter), securingamerica.substack.com
- Aaron Reitz: aaronreitz.com, @aaron_reitz
- Matt Shea: @RepMattShea (X/Twitter)
Episode Tone and Language
The tone throughout is highly alarmist, oppositional, and combative, frequently using martial and existential language—e.g., “civilizational conflict,” “battle-tested,” “going to war,” “invasion,” “take your Sharia law and shove it.” Religious and cultural motifs abound, as do urgent calls to action, underscoring participants as defenders of civilization, faith, and nation.
For listeners: This episode is a clarion call for grassroots political mobilization against what the hosts describe as the threat of Sharia law and Islamic organizations in the United States, with Texas as the immediate front line in a broader civilizational struggle. The episode blends investigatory claims, political strategy, and religious rhetoric in support of Proposition 10 and broader efforts to ban Sharia law in the U.S.
