WarRoom Battleground eP 927: Stopping Sharia Law Will Crumble The Islamic Conquest

Summary

Podcast Summary: Bannon’s War Room Battleground eP 927

Title: Stopping Sharia Law Will Crumble The Islamic Conquest
Date: January 15, 2026
Host: Stephen K. Bannon (WarRoom.org)
Guests: Frank Gaffney, David Hoak, Nick Shirley, Aaron Reitz, Matt Shea

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on claims of an "Islamic conquest" through "civilizational jihad," alleged financial fraud tied to childcare facilities with purported connections to Muslim-owned businesses, and an urgent campaign to ban Sharia law in Texas through Proposition 10 on the March 3rd Republican primary ballot. The discussions intertwine investigative reporting, guest interviews, campaign advocacy, and calls for grassroots action, positioning Texas as a key battleground in what the hosts and guests describe as a struggle to protect American civilization from what they see as the encroachment of Islamic law.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Allegations of Islamic “Civilizational Jihad” and Financial Fraud ([00:08]–[11:25])

• Frank Gaffney opens with a warning, “Islamic jihadis are plotting against you.” (00:08)
• Stephen K. Bannon accuses Muslim communities in Texas of conspiring to “overthrow Western civilization” by forming “Sharia compounds…governed by religious rules.” (00:12)
• The segment transitions to an on-site investigation of Hopkins Child Care Center in Minnesota:
  • David Hoak and Nick Shirley question the legitimacy of millions in state funding to facilities with no visible activity or children, suggesting fraud tied to Somali-owned businesses (02:00–04:13).
  • Security guards at the daycare forcefully eject the investigators, refusing to answer questions about funding or operations.
  • Bannon frames this as evidence of a broader, orchestrated infiltration:
    “The president is thinking of invoking the Insurrection act to actually clean up the mess in Minneapolis.” (05:17)

Notable Quote

"You have to pick your one battle as your ground zero and then you have to work out from there…It's too overwhelming [otherwise]."
—David Hoak, on conducting investigations (06:08)

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2. Expanding the Inquiry to Texas: Systematized Subversion and Money Flows ([06:56]–[12:18])

• Bannon suggests that “tens to maybe hundreds of millions of dollars” in Texas taxpayer money is flowing to “Islamic centers, Islamic businesses.”
• David Hoak describes his investigative methods: identifying suspicious ownership patterns, tracking funding, and leveraging government registry data:
  “99% of them were Somali owned. And I said, well, why would they have so many childcare facilities? …I never, in seven years, I never ever saw one child at any of the hundreds of childcare facilities…” (07:39)
• Frank Gaffney situates current developments in Texas as evidence of the “civilizational jihad” strategy, quoting the so-called “Explanatory Memorandum” and arguing:
  "The process of settlement is a civilization jihadist process… a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying Western civilization from within." (13:09)

Notable Quote

“If we lose Texas, we lose the nation. And yes, we lose Western civilization with it inevitably.”
—Frank Gaffney (17:58)

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3. Focusing on Sharia Law as the “Key to the Islamic Apparatus” ([15:14]–[18:47])

• Bannon and Gaffney argue that banning Sharia law is the critical point:
  “If you focus on Sharia, that…can bring down the entire apparatus of this Islamic conquest.” (15:34)
• Gaffney describes Sharia as “not a religion… but a toxic, demonic and anti-constitutional ideology. It's communism with this patina of religiosity.” (16:47)
• They advocate to make “banning Sharia a voting issue across America in this fall’s elections.” (25:27)

Notable Quote

“It is a political program for world domination. And you're right, it picks the lock when you focus on that.”
—Frank Gaffney (17:32)

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4. Historical Framing and the “Islamic Threat” to Texas ([18:47]–[23:48])

• Bannon references early Islamic conquests, the Battle of Tours, and the Siege of Vienna to support the narrative of a long-standing Islamic threat.
• He asks Gaffney why Texas is now “targeted,” discussing immigration and the alleged “subtle” means of infiltration:
  “They come in on cat’s paws, right? Very, very subtly.” (19:37)
• Gaffney links this to the prophet Muhammad’s emigration (hijra) as a model for “subverting” host societies. He invokes Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign promise to dismantle “the support networks of radical Islam.” (22:14)

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5. Proposition 10 and Legal-Policy Battle in Texas ([31:29]–[41:49])

• Aaron Reitz, candidate for Texas Attorney General, claims Texas is “ground zero for the Islamic invasion into the United States.” (32:33)
• He emphasizes the growing Muslim population post–1960s immigration reforms and after 9/11, claiming many are “unassimilable.”
• Details legal actions underway, such as lawsuits against entities accused of fraud and the executive order labeling CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood as terrorist organizations, which Reitz asserts triggers new legal tools to combat Islamic organizations in Texas (34:22).
• Reitz positions himself as the only “battle-tested” candidate able to “go to war against the civilizational invaders up and down the justice system and in court.” (36:12)
• Promotes support for Prop 10 to ban Sharia law in Texas, calling for overwhelming Republican turnout.

Notable Quote

“Texas is ground zero for the Islamic invasion into the United States… But more importantly, the Attorney General can now use [new] tools to repel the Islamic invasion in Texas.”
—Aaron Reitz (32:33–36:12)

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6. Community Mobilization: Education, Civil Action, and “Counter-Jihad” ([41:52]–[51:18])

• Matt Shea explains his group’s mission: “We educate, equip, and empower pastors and citizens” to oppose “communist and jihadi networks.” (42:42)
• Shea recounts organizing community resistance, advocating for Christians to “stand and not run away,” and emphasizing legal education about constitutional incompatibility with Sharia law.
• He describes how mosques are allegedly used for more than worship, including “military barracks” and “adjudicating Sharia law.”
• Shea points to the False Claims Act (qui tam) as a tool for citizens to sue entities that defraud the government, promoting civil litigation as part of a “war chest” against fraud in state-funded programs (45:07–47:12).

Notable Quote

“Islam is not a religion. It is a complete way of life…over half of the Quran is overtly political…This is really, Steve, all about Sharia law. At the very core of this, we are making a choice.”
—Matt Shea (45:07)

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7. Mobilizing the Church and Evangelicals for Political and Cultural Confrontation ([48:48]–[51:18])

• Shea promotes training for pastors and citizens to fight what he calls the "Islamicization" of America, highlighting the need for church engagement:
  “The largest footprint…that can push back…is the church. But pastors need to step forward.”
• Bannon urges starting a “mass movement to convert the Muslims to Christianity.” (49:39)
• Shea responds that evangelization is already occurring and that resistance to Sharia is necessary to maintain America’s freedoms.

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• "We're going to tell them, take your Sharia law and shove it. Islam will never dominate the United States, and by the grace of God, it will not dominate Texas."
  —Stephen K. Bannon (00:56–01:00)
• “The process of settlement is a civilization jihadist process…a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying Western civilization from within.”
  —Frank Gaffney, quoting the “Explanatory Memorandum” (13:09)
• “If you focus on Sharia…that can bring down the entire apparatus of this Islamic conquest.”
  —Stephen K. Bannon (15:34)
• "Texas is ground zero for the Islamic invasion into the United States… the tools that are available to the Attorney General are uniquely suited to stop the invasion."
  —Aaron Reitz (32:33, 34:26)
• “Islam is not a religion. It is a complete way of life…This is really… about Sharia law. At the very core of this, we are making a choice.”
  —Matt Shea (45:07)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment/Content Summary | |------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:08 | Opening alarms: “Islamic jihadis are plotting against you.” —Gaffney | | 02:00 | Investigative segment — Hoak and Shirley at Hopkins Child Care Center | | 05:17 | Bannon: Call for national action, invoking “Insurrection Act” | | 06:08 | Hoak: Strategy for grassroots investigation | | 07:39 | Hoak: Observations on Somali-owned childcare facilities | | 13:09 | Gaffney: Cites “civilization jihad” playbook | | 15:34 | Bannon: “Sharia… as the key to the Islamic apparatus” | | 16:47 | Gaffney: Sharia described as “communism with religiosity” | | 19:37 | Bannon: Historical Ottoman/Muslim conquests, strategic threat to Texas | | 22:14 | Gaffney: Trump’s 2016 speech on radical Islamic ideology | | 25:27 | Gaffney: BanSharia.com campaign, call to action | | 32:33 | Aaron Reitz: Texas as “ground zero,” immigration arguments | | 34:22 | Legal levers in Texas against Islamic organizations | | 36:12 | Reitz: “Battle-tested” legal campaign; endorsement by Ken Paxton | | 42:42 | Matt Shea: Training churches and citizens, resisting Islamic law | | 45:07 | Shea: Argument that “Islam is not a religion” | | 48:48 | Shea: Calls for mass engagement, programs for pastors and activists | | 49:39 | Bannon: Call for “mass movement to convert Muslims to Christianity” | | 51:01 | Shea: Social media and state legislative action |

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Resources and Calls to Action

• BanSharia.com — informational and activist hub promoted by Frank Gaffney (25:27)
• America’s Future (americasfuture.net) — Matt Shea’s training and mobilization resource (48:48)
• Web and Socials:
  • Frank Gaffney: @FrankGaffney (X/Twitter), securingamerica.substack.com
  • Aaron Reitz: aaronreitz.com, @aaron_reitz
  • Matt Shea: @RepMattShea (X/Twitter)

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Episode Tone and Language

The tone throughout is highly alarmist, oppositional, and combative, frequently using martial and existential language—e.g., “civilizational conflict,” “battle-tested,” “going to war,” “invasion,” “take your Sharia law and shove it.” Religious and cultural motifs abound, as do urgent calls to action, underscoring participants as defenders of civilization, faith, and nation.

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For listeners: This episode is a clarion call for grassroots political mobilization against what the hosts describe as the threat of Sharia law and Islamic organizations in the United States, with Texas as the immediate front line in a broader civilizational struggle. The episode blends investigatory claims, political strategy, and religious rhetoric in support of Proposition 10 and broader efforts to ban Sharia law in the U.S.

Transcript

[Frank Gaffney]

Islamic jihadis are plotting against you.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Why in the hell you think they're.

In Houston and the north of Dallas? They are working together to overthrow Western civilization. Sharia compounds which are areas governed by religious rules.

We know who you are, we know what you are, and we know what.

You'Re trying to accomplish, and it is not going to happen.

In the jewel of the crown of the union of this republic, we purge.

Any attempt to impose Sharia law in Texas.

[Security Guard at Daycare]

They are not coming.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

They are already here.

You are not here properly and you're going to leave.

[Aaron Reitz]

On 3 March, Sharia law goes on the ballot in the state of Texas.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

The United States Constitution and Sharia are fundamentally at odds with one another.

We're going to tell them, take your Sharia law and shove it.

Islam will never dominate the United States, and by the grace of God, it will not dominate Texas.

As Texas goes, so goes the nation. As the nation goes, so goes the world. Are you prepared to fight for this state? Are you prepared to fight for your country?

War room, Texas. Your host, Stephen K. Bannon starts right now.

[David Hoak]

It's called Hopkins Child Care Center. This facility is licensed to hold 118 children. So this should be a really big facility. And this year alone, they have received $2.25 million from the state of Minnesota. And last year, they received 1.92 million from the state of Minnesota. And this facility in the past five years has been in the top 10 for the most money received from the state of Minnesota.

[Nick Shirley]

So there should be plenty of children. There should be footprints of children walking in and out.

[David Hoak]

This should be a very busy place.

[Nick Shirley]

Y this right here is Hopkins Childcare center. They're receiving over $2 million a year. All of the windows are completely blacked out. You can't even get in. And for a place that's supposed to have over 100 children, there's no footprints anywhere going into the store. And it's locked. Midday. Right now, this is the backside of the daycare. Ringing the doorbell right now. See if anybody comes. Hello, sir. How are you doing? How are you doing? Yes, sir.

[Aaron Reitz]

Get out.

[Security Guard at Daycare]

Okay, listen, listen, listen. Get out. This is our business. What are you looking for? We don't care what you do on the parking lot. Go, go, go. This side. This is private.

[Nick Shirley]

I can be here in the park.

[Matt Shea]

Wait.

[Nick Shirley]

Can we ask you about the daycare?

[Frank Gaffney]

It's all right.

[Nick Shirley]

Can we ask you about the daycare? I'm not racist.

[Security Guard at Daycare]

No, no, no, no. You don't ask me nothing.

[Nick Shirley]

$2.25 million get out.

[Security Guard at Daycare]

Get out. You guys. Get out. Get out.

[Aaron Reitz]

Million.

[Security Guard at Daycare]

Get out.

[Aaron Reitz]

This is a business.

[Security Guard at Daycare]

Get out. Get out. What are you looking for?

[David Hoak]

We're asking.

[Security Guard at Daycare]

Get out.

[David Hoak]

You say?

[Security Guard at Daycare]

Get out of here, man. Get out. Guys, get out. You cannot do that.

[Frank Gaffney]

Get out.

[Security Guard at Daycare]

No, you cannot. You cannot do that.

[Nick Shirley]

This is.

[Security Guard at Daycare]

Get out. No. Get out.

[Aaron Reitz]

Get out.

[Security Guard at Daycare]

No, sir, you have to get out this house.

[Frank Gaffney]

Get out.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Why?

[Nick Shirley]

Can I ask you about the daycare? I have the paperwork right here.

[Security Guard at Daycare]

Get out.

[Nick Shirley]

What's the need for $2.25 million for a daycare?

[Security Guard at Daycare]

Get out.

[Nick Shirley]

Can you answer the question?

[Security Guard at Daycare]

No, I don't ask you other question.

[Frank Gaffney]

Get out.

[Nick Shirley]

You can't answer the question? Get out.

[Frank Gaffney]

No.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

What?

[Matt Shea]

You.

[Frank Gaffney]

What?

[Security Guard at Daycare]

Who are you?

[Nick Shirley]

My name is Nick Shirley.

[Security Guard at Daycare]

No, I don't give a. Get out.

[Nick Shirley]

Could you. Could you. Could you answer the question?

[Security Guard at Daycare]

No, I don't.

[Nick Shirley]

What's the need for $2.25 million for daycare?

[Security Guard at Daycare]

No, no, no. Million dollars. Get out.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Okay.

[Security Guard at Daycare]

Get out.

[Nick Shirley]

And it's licensed for 108 children, but I don't see any footprints of any children here. I don't see any footprints of any children here.

[Security Guard at Daycare]

Get out. Guys. Get out. I'm not asking nothing, man.

[Nick Shirley]

I'm just asking you about what we're seeing here.

[Security Guard at Daycare]

No, no, our business. This is my property.

[Nick Shirley]

You have millions of people watching right now. Can you say what's the need for $2.2 million?

[Aaron Reitz]

Get out.

[Nick Shirley]

Sir, I'm just ask a simple question.

[Matt Shea]

Get out.

[Security Guard at Daycare]

No, you don't ask me other question.

[Matt Shea]

It.

[Security Guard at Daycare]

Get out.

[Frank Gaffney]

You have the opportunity.

[Security Guard at Daycare]

Get out. No, no, no, no, no. No. You.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Welcome to War Room Texas. You.

[Aaron Reitz]

You.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

You. You might wonder why I'm starting War Room Texas today in the cold northern climes of Minnesota. Because there's an issue down in Texas that's got to get sorted. And I'm really honored to have David Hoge, an American patriot and hero. And David, we're all concerned for your security. So make sure just you stay safe. You and Nick Shirley doing God's work. So the situation, David, in Texas and the reason I appreciate you coming on today to kick off the show is that we know from some cursory analysis has been done just on the controllers website. That looks like tens to maybe hundreds of millions of dollars of Texas money, taxpayer money going in to fund various Islamic centers, Islamic businesses. I mean, it's very confusing. Then there's some other issues about federal money, and some people are saying it's up maybe up to $4 billion over the last couple years. People say it's tens of hundreds of millions of dollars over the last couple years. Just Texas. It's confusing. And right now, because there's not a David Hoak on the case, I just want the folks in Texas to hear it from you straight on, what did it take in the dedication? Now this story's exploded. It's probably, I think, the biggest story in the world because the president is thinking of invoking the Insurrection act to actually clean up the mess in Minneapolis. He's committed to stop all Federal funding on the 1st of February in California, Illinois, New York, any sanctuary city in Minneapolis. How can the people in Texas take what you did as guidance for what has to be done, sir?

[David Hoak]

Well, I think the key is to focus on one area of potential fraud. Otherwise, it's trying to. It's like you're trying to wrestle a greased hippo. You'll never get a hold of it. You have to pick your one battle as your ground zero and then you have to work out from there. And in Minnesota, I took the childcare because I knew that would be a very large number. But it also plays into the fact that a lot of people have children. They're paying $2,000 a month for childcare and they're going to be furious that all of this is going on. And then I wanted to follow that up with the transportation. That's exactly what we did. And you can see the effect of strategizing things in that order. But you got to be focused. Don't try and do it all at once. It's too overwhelming.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

How did you go get. I mean, people now are onto the controller side. They're starting to pull information together. We have young influencer going to have some on starting tomorrow. Some young influencers are just starting to pull together the data. What is your recommendation for? How did. You were a total outsider. I mean, you have a day job, but you drove around, you saw something was fishy about these, about these daycare center. What's the first step? What's the first step you did to actually get the math that now is evident that Walls and these guys purposely hid from the taxpayers of Minnesota and from the federal government. How did you get your start after. After you targeted and said, hey, it's got to be something's fishy these daycare centers, because there's more daycare centers around than their kids?

[David Hoak]

Well, that's exactly what my thought. I said, well, how many kids do we have in Minneapolis, for God's sakes? I mean, I grew up here and I Said, there can't be that many children. So I started to look at who owned these childcare facilities. And when you get outside, like the New Horizons and the Kindercare, which are corporate, the vast majority, I mean 99% of them were better are Somali owned. And I said, well, why would they have so many childcare facilities? I mean, who's going there? And so I started to sit outside these and drive by all times a day. And I never, in seven years, I never ever saw one child at any of the hundreds of childcare facilities that I went by. And I said, this is not good. And so that was the genesis of digging into this and trying to figure out how is this all working. And that's why in the second video I said, look, the hub of the wheel is this non emergency medical transportation because it touches childcare, adult daycare, home health care, autism. All these things revolve around transportation because these people have to get there somehow. Of course they're not actually being delivered there, but that way the transportation companies can build a state because they do it electronically, online and they just put in how many people they delivered, how many miles and they get paid.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

David, I'm gonna let you go because I know you're busy, you're having meetings today and I really appreciate you're on War Room in the morning and now coming back just if, if people. Because I'm getting this already. We have since you're hit today, I've been overwhelmed with people that producers that watch show say, hey, can you hook us up with it? So we're going to bounce each one off you. But I know the Charlie Kirk show, the great Andrew Covet wants you on. Are you available? You've inspired people throughout the country. I know in Texas they're starting to get worked up now and stood up these operations. Go investigate. Are you, are you open for people reaching out? Maybe we do a seminar or something of how David Hoque did it in Minneapolis.

[David Hoak]

Sir, I think a seminar would be good because trying to respond individually, I mean I'm getting thousands of messages and emails and it's, you know, I think if we can coordinate sort of a conference call or some sort of zoom or something where people can come on, it just helps to consolidate our efforts. But again, what I did is I went to the Secretary of State's website and I found out who owned the companies when they first incorporated and the registered address for these companies, the office address, and that's what I was going to. Because that says this is where the business is so those are the addresses we went to. So that's the place to start. You're unlikely to get all the information on the on the revenue from the state because they make it so convoluted, it's almost impossible. I had a way to do it that you probably don't have access to. So that's how I came up with all these numbers. And everything that I say and produce is 100% accurate.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

David we're going to figure out either a town hall webinar. I'll talk to you later. Today. We're going to figure something out to give the nation more access to you on actual working methods, not just news hits, because I know the folks in Texas are revved up right now to do it. DAVID where do people go for all the videos you're doing, Nick, and any other research that you have that they can learn from?

[David Hoak]

So everything is going through Nick Shirley on YouTube x TikTok. And look, I say Nick. Nick should get a Pulitzer Prize for what he's done.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

A Nobel Prize for peace. David. David, you be safe now. We're most concerned about security, so be safe. David Hoke, Yes.

[David Hoak]

Thanks.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Nick Shirley, partner on this. Thank you. Frank Gaffney, I want to get into the civilizational part of this, but this proves out what's happening in Minneapolis, and this is because the same construct, if we layer on Texas, the good citizens of Texas are going to have their heads blow up. Because I would posit right now that the scale of this in Texas, because Texas is a bigger state, may be much bigger than what we're seeing in Minneapolis. And that's why I think David Hoek's an inspiration. And this is really what you've talked about as civilizational jihad, to get into the system, to see how the system works, and to use the system to actually break our civilization. Frank Gaffner, your thoughts?

[Frank Gaffney]

Steve thanks for having me on. Let me just say, if I may, how deeply grateful I am, and I think the community of people who care about this country are for the leadership that you're demonstrating in this effort. It is incalculably important. I was present in that room on Friday night with you and Geert Wilders and Glenn Beck and 600 of your best friends. And it was the most exhilarating evening of my life, I have to tell you, and what you've done to take it to the next step with War Room Texas is incredibly important and uplifting, and I hope that it will be successful. On March 3rd to the point about civilization jihad. That's that's not my term, by the way. That term comes from the Muslim Brotherhood. This little book, the Explanatory Memorandum on the General strategic goal of the group in North America, was found miraculously in 2004. It was written in 1991 by Muhammad Akram, the top Muslim Brotherhood operative. And he says in this critically important passage about the mission of the Muslim Brotherhood in North America, the process of settlement is a civilization jihadist process with all the word means, the ikwan. The Brotherhood must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying Western civilization from within and sabotaging its miserable house by their hands, meaning the non believers and the believers, so that it is eliminated and Allah's religion is made victorious over all other religions, unquote. That's the playbook and that's what we're up against. And that's why what you've just documented in the civilization jihadist phase, that the state of, you know, Minnesota is in at the moment is a metastasizing cancer across this country. Yes, it's fraud and yes, it's, you know, subversion, and yes, it's preparations for the violent kind of jihad as well. And that's why what you're doing to expose it and to help empower, particularly people in Texas, to realize we have a shot by voting for Proposition 10 on March 3 for Republican voters in the state of Texas overwhelmingly to say Texas should prohibit Sharia law. And that's where this battle can be joined and fought and I believe turned into a voting issue across America in this fall's elections as well.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Why the focus? With everything that's going on in the broad scale of things, why have we focused on Sharia law? Why is Sharia kind of the key that picks the lock here if you want to stop the Islamic invasion, If you want to stop really what the. Over the. The overarching goal in Minnesota is because you saw from the daycare centers every thing they're trying to do, they're trying to run through these Islamic organizations, right? And once they get in, they start. They start teaching Sharia and they start teaching really Islam as a greater civilization than the Judeo Christian West. Why is it Sharia that is. Is the pinpoint that if we focus on Sharia, that, that. And by stopping that, that can bring down the entire apparatus of this Islamic conquest.

[Frank Gaffney]

Well, you're exactly right. I gave you a copy of this book when we were together in Dallas last week, Sharia, the Threat to America. It was written by an amazing Group, we called it Team B2 back in 2010. And it lays out the answer to your question, Steve. And the answer is if you focus on Sharia, which is described as a complete way of life, as the path, that's the literal meaning of it in Arabic. You do understand that what we're dealing with here is not a religion. We're dealing with an ideology. I call it a toxic, demonic and anti constitutional ideology. It's communism with this patina of religiosity perhaps. And it has to be treated as a dangerous seditious threat to our country. And this Team B exercise, and it's available on Amazon. Sharia, the threat to America walks you through just how insidious it is. And by the way, and I know you're going to be focusing on this in the days to come, as do we on our program, cherie. Sharia, excuse me, securing America from Sharia is, is, is illuminating the various, you know, horrible aspects of Sharia, the way it treats women, the treatment of, of, you know, people who dare to leave the faith or who blaspheme against the faith or in any other way recognize that what we're dealing with is in fact not a faith at all. It is a political program for world domination. And you're right, it picks the lock when you focus on that. And when you can do that, you can expose what we describe as Sharia supremacists who are busily trying to remove the impediment, the one real impediment to their ability to achieve the world domination that Sharia commands them to strive for through jihad, through violent jihad wherever possible. And that is the United States of America. And by protecting the United States, starting in the state of Texas, which you have absolutely correctly pointed out is the nation, the, the determinant really of where the nation goes. If we lose Texas, we lose the nation. And yes, we lose Western civilization with it inevitably. So this is why this important effort is so important. And focusing on Sharia is the starting point.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Our own, our opponents here, this radical ideology, remember when it came out of Saudi Arabia in What, the year 600, let's say roughly, it conquered some of the great civilizations of the world very quickly, militarily. Persia, Babylon, Syria, Egypt, and eventually got all the way in the North Africa, you know, where St. Augustine and all the great church fathers came out of the desert church we had in the first century, all the way up to Spain, a couple hundred miles from Paris, I think it was in the year 700, the Battle of Tours, it was stopped then Then later, from the other flank through Turkey, they took over Turkey and obviously parts of the, of the Holy Land, Turkey, the Balkans, and came all the way up to Vienna, where I think in 1348 they were stopped there. We're going to have. I'm gonna have Posobuk, I hope, on tomorrow, because in Vienna, the. The stature they used to have commemorating the victory has been taken down because the local Muslim population didn't like it. Why have they targeted. Why have they targeted Texas? And they've done it in a very sophisticated way. They come in on cat's paws, right? Very, very subtly. And this is why it's so evident now that it has to be. And if you. This is why we had Gert there. The European elites actually enthusiastically supported this. But the middle class and working class in Europe were not awakened to this until it's too late. And that's why in France, in Amsterdam, in Brussels, in London, I keep saying, hey guys, if you want to get it out now, it's going to be a bloody civil war because you're too far gone. Why have they targeted Texas and what is their strategy to come in on cat's paws until they're in some sort of, although a minority situation, a situation where they can kind of dominate things?

[Frank Gaffney]

Well, you know, Steve, for Sharia adherent Muslims, the perfect man was the Prophet Muhammad. And he is to be emulated in every aspect of his life. All of his, you know, hadiths, his, his statements, his revelations and so on. And his behavior. Now a lot of that behavior, talk about demonic, is just that. I mean, marrying a girl at six and consummating the marriage at nine, for example, beheading, personally, 600 Jews in one battle scene, you know, slavery, rape, torture, you name it. The perfect man of Islam has all of those attributes. And one of the things that he did is he made the hijra. He was basically thrown out of Mecca and he went to Medina and he ultimately became powerful and then, you know, took it over that sort of process of immigration for the purposes of spreading this program and ultimately subverting the people who are not part of that program and stand in the way of its, you know, full realization. This is right out of the life of Muhammad and the Sharia adherent Muslims who are here in large numbers, God only knows how many came in across that open border of Joe Biden's, and then there's a whole bunch more that have been incubated by the Muslim Brotherhood and other support networks. And I do want to say something Steve, if I may, about this. In a speech that I know you had a hand in writing along with Stephen Miller In August, specifically August 15, 2016, then candidate Donald J. Trump said explicitly, we're dealing with a radical Islamic ideology. And he took a, you know, an hour or so, I think, to lay out a number of steps that needed to be taken, one of which was to stop the immigration of more adherence to this ideology. But the key, the money quote for me was he said that under a Trump presidency, basically the support networks of radical Islam will be stripped out and removed one by one. Now that, my friend, is an incredibly important promise as yet, one that has not really been fulfilled. But that's what we're going to try to do by drawing the line in Texas, you've called it the, the second Alamo, to make sure, we hope without the loss of all the defenders, the, that this goes no further in terms of insinuating and ultimately subverting Texas and with Texas, our nation.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

The 15th of August of 2016 was my first official day on the job as the CEO of the Trump campaign. I was hired on the late afternoon, early evening of let's say the 13th. And Stephen Miller had been a very close colleague. In fact, we had recommended Stephen late 2014, early 2015, excuse me, late 2015, early 2016, to Corey Lewandowski to bring Stephen on as a speechwriter and then the policy guy. So Stephen Miller, a big hand in that speech and just a incredible. We use that as the template. Let's use the current template. Frank, we gotta bounce, but I want to make sure people get to all your access, particularly you've been banging the drum here about Sharia supremacist. Sharia supremacist. This is what clearly we're seeing in the great state of Texas. As I said in that speech, it's got to be number one stopped, number two rolled back and number three, then forced out. This all has to get out of the United States of America. We cannot have the republic that's been bequeathed to us for generation and generation and generation down from the patriots, revolutionary generation and have this around. It's not American, it's anti American, anti Christian, anti Judeo Christian civilization, all of it, full stop, nothing good about it. It's a hateful ideology and it's got to go. Where do people. You've got the great context here. You've been doing this for a while. Where do people go? We got about a minute. I want to make sure people get access to all your writings and all your commentary.

[Frank Gaffney]

Thank you. Just two quick points, Steve, in addition. One is if we can succeed in Texas on March 3rd in beginning that process of stopping Sharia's insinuation and rolling it back, we hope very much that we will be able to make banning Sharia a voting issue not just in Texas, but across the country this fall, and that there will be a mandate arriving from that much like the one that, as you've made very, very prominent through movies and other means, Ronald Reagan got in 1980 to put the then existing existential threat to freedom, namely the Soviet Union, on the ash heap of history. Websites ban Sharia.com is a resource that we want everybody to go to. We're going to build it out and make it easy to act on the information that's already there. My personal information. I'm Frank Gaffney on Twitter or X. I [e-mail] the website for our wonderful show here on Real America's Voice. And [e-mail], the website of the Institute for the American Future.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Frank Gaffney, thank you sir. And thank you for the fight. Appreciate you.

[Frank Gaffney]

Thank you for your leadership and my friend.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Short break. Thank you, sir. Thank you for the kind words. Aaron Reitz, running for the Attorney General of the great state of Texas. Next.

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

As Texas goes, so goes the nation. As the nation goes, so goes the world. Are you prepared to fight for this state? Are you prepared to fight for your, your country?

Welcome back to War Room Texas. Matt Shea, one of General Flynn's colleagues, is going to join us here momentarily, fighting the good fight. I want to bring in first Aaron Wright. So Aaron, I've known you, you know, on, on the Capitol hill in the D.C. part of it, you're now running for Attorney General in, in Texas. Talk to me about the scale of the problem. This has been one of the more prominent features of your campaign. Primaries on the 3rd of March, Prop 10's on the ballot. We're trying to get as much turnout as possible. As a individual that aspires to be the chief law enforcement officer of the state of Texas, can you describe what the problem is?

[Aaron Reitz]

I mean this is something we're just.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Making up and it's a bunch of cranks with, with tinfoil hats, sir.

[Aaron Reitz]

Yeah, look, if you believe the left wing narrative, yeah, we're just getting worked up about something that's not really an issue. We've got our tinfoil hats on. But here's the deal. The nature of the problem is that the Islamists have been embedding in Texas really for decades now. Look, the Islamic population in the United States was a tiny, tiny minority prior to to 9 11. But the combined negative forces of the Hart Celler Immigration act in the 1960s, which opened up the floodgates to third world immigration into the United States and then combined with the post 911 political temperature where we sort of collectively had this guilt over going to war against Islamic countries. And so what you actually see in the immigration numbers is you see in the United States, almost no Muslim immigration. Then the mid-60s hit Hart Cellar, you see an up, an increase and then starting after, in the early 2000s, you see a skyrocketing to where now in the United States we have several million of unassimilated and maybe even more importantly, Steve is unassimilable. In other words, not even able to be assimilated into American or Western civilization taking root right here in Texas and in the United States. But Texas primarily is where we see an overwhelming majority of these Muslims coming in to the United States. And so the problem is, is that they've been here for so long and they've learned how to do business in a very sophisticated way through a network of 501 C3s, a network of C4s, of super PACs, of elected officials, of private corporate entities. They launder their money into various nonprofits. They have this vast network. You know, we talk about the Left Soros funded network, but just as nefarious, just as insidious, is the Muslim network that is very intentionally engaged in a civilizational conflict. Now, why do I talk about this? Why. Why do I, as an Attorney General candidate, talk about this often? Well, number one, because it's a huge issue, and I want Texans to know that Texas is ground zero for the Islamic invasion into the United States. But number two, the tools that are available to the Attorney General are uniquely suited to be able to stop the invasion, roll back the invasion, and repel the Islamic invasion into Texas. So already, right now, Attorney General Ken Paxton is actively suing Epic City. Epic City created a harmlessly sounding corporate entity called Capital Community Partners, which the state alleges, and I agree with, was engaged in securities fraud. Now Paxson is suing that entity and is hopefully going to bring them to justice. The other thing that is happening right now is Governor Abbott declared cair, the Council for American Islamic Relations, as well as the Mother Muslim Brotherhood, foreign terrorist organizations and transnational criminal organizations. Now, this is really important, Steve, because, yes, some people are saying, oh, it's just a piece of paper, it's just a declaration. But if you read the full executive order from the governor, it actually triggers a whole suite, a whole new body of laws under the Civil Practices and Remedies Code, the property code, the Health and Safety code, the Texas Penal Code, all of which the Attorney General can now use to repel the Islamic invasion in Texas. And so what Texans need right now in this point in history in which we find ourselves as we transition away from Ken Paxton, who's now running for the US Senate, it and we're going to get a new Attorney general is who has the battle scars to prove that he knows how to use the tools, the legal tools that are available to him to go to war against the civilizational invaders up and down the justice system and in court. And my record shows that I'm the only one who knows how to do it. Of course, it's campaign season, so everybody wants to talk a big game and say, oh, they understand the Islamic problem and they're for Trump and they're hardcore. But I'm the only one in this race, Steve, with an actual record leading legal troops into legal combat to deliver legal victories for our American conservative Western And Texas values. That's what distinguishes me from the rest. So I'm not just going to promise you I'm going to go to war against the Islamic invaders. I'm actually going to do it. And my chest is actually covered in, in medals from the many, many wars that I've been in successfully and won on behalf of the state of Texas.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Is this why Paxton endorsed you? You're the only Paxton endorsed candidate in this race as ag. Is this one of the key reasons why Paxton, who had all types of different alternatives, including not even endorsing anybody, why he was so vocal and came out so early to endorse you, sir?

[Aaron Reitz]

Yeah, totally. Right. Look, Attorney General Paxton endorsed me with the entire field set as it is. So he's got his own race to run. Think about this. Your average politician, when he's got his own race to run, is just going to stay neutral everywhere else. What's, what is there to gain? And plus, Attorney General Paxton, there's four candidates in these, in this AGS race right now. Attorney General Paxton has known all of us for years, in some cases decades, and yet he endorsed me, Aaron Reitz, to succeed him. And in his endorsement statement that he put out in August, he said, Aaron Reitz is the only battle tested, proven, reliable and qualified candidate in the race to succeed me as Attorney General. And he chronicles the reasons why. It's because I have litigated, investigated, sued, defended, and appealed on all of the issues that the War Room Posse cares primarily about. Election integrity, the civilizational conflict we're in, the jihad that the Muslims are engaged in, the fact that I need to lead a counter jihad, Second Amendment, free speech, religious liberty, border security, deporting illegal aliens, you name the issue, and I have racked up wins, put them on the scoreboard on behalf of the state of Texas and our constitutional, American and Western values. He said I'm the only qualified candidate in the race. And in fact, in an endorsement video he made for me the day after he put out his statement, he said, aaron Wrights will be the greatest Attorney General that Texas has ever seen. And I think when folks look at my record, this is the same record, Steve, why President Trump brought me into the very senior ranks of the Justice Department, why I had the blessing of him and Attorney General Paxton to launch from DOJ to run for ag. But when Trump nominated me to head up the Office of Legal Policy at doj, where you and I met when you were doing an event up there up at Main justice several months ago, earlier last year, Trump said that Aaron writes is a true MAGA attorney and a warrior for the Constitution. Why? Because I have spent my entire career leading legal troops into legal combat to destroy the dark forces of the left. We are at war. Now is not the time for some deal making legislator or from, you know, boy scout who says he's ready for conflict. No, we need what Trump said of me, a true MAGA attorney and a warrior for the Constitution. And it's the same reason why I was endorsed by Ken Paxton, the great Ken Paxton, and to succeed him as the next ag.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Aaron, where do people go on social media to track you in your content and where they go for your campaign site?

[Aaron Reitz]

Yeah, campaign site is aaron wrights.com a a r o n r e I t z.com and folks can find me on social media at Aaron Underscore Wrights Aaron Underscore R E I T Z I'm on all the major social media platforms, very accessible and we really want to earn folks support. Election day is March 3rd, but in Texas, Steve, early voting starts on February 17th, which is a month from now. So voters are going to go to the polls and they're not only going to vote for Aaron Rights for Attorney general, but then they're also going to have the opportunity to vote yes on Prop 10 on that list of Republican ballot initiatives. And I like you, Steve, I want to see overwhelming support to vote yes on Prop 10, meaning Republicans want to see Sharia law banned in Texas. But that, Steve, is just the beginning. Once we signal that Texans want Sharia law banned, it's going to have to be guys like me who then take that mandate and go to war up and down the chain of the justice system. And I'm not only committed to do it, but I've been spending my entire career doing exactly that, defending American Western and Texas civilization. I'm going to do it in court. I've been doing it for my whole career. And I hope that folks will vote for Aaron Reitz for Texas Attorney General.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

General on the 3rd of March. Aaron, thank you so much for joining us, sir. Look forward to having you back and maybe talking about some of the opportunities in this declaration executive order that the governor signed, Governor Abbott, which was a real sign of courage to do that about designing the Muslim Brotherhood and CARE as a terrorist organization. Sir. Thank you so much.

[Aaron Reitz]

You bet, sir.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Really honored to have on our next guest, Matt Shea from one of the colleagues and partners over there with General Flynn, his General Flynn's sister, Mary America's future. Matt, tell us you you guys Are, I think, kind of along with Gaffney, the. The. The top experts in this whole thing of Sharia law and these Islamic invasions. I mean, the experiences the Flynns have are legendary. Walk us through exactly what you guys do. I know you do, training programs, all that.

[David Hoak]

What.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

What are you trying.

[Aaron Reitz]

You're behind the scenes a lot.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

What are you guys trying to do to make sure that citizens, not simply of Texas, but all over the country? Because you got a big problem in Florida, too. Not as big as Texas, I don't think quite yet understand about Sharia supremacist and how dangerous this application of Sharia law in the United States is.

[Matt Shea]

Sir, we educate, we equip, and we empower pastors and citizens. And Steve, I just want to thank you for having me on and just really appreciate all the work you're doing to preserve the Republicans. Just giving you an example of what this looks like. We had teams, we had pastors, actually four pastors helped organize an event in Seattle, Washington, earlier this year at Cal Anderson Park. And we had a group of citizens there. And it was very interesting. Right before the event, some law enforcement officers came up to us. They said, are you guys going to stand or are you going to run away? And we said, no, we're going to stand. And when antifa charged our lines, we had grandmas, we had children, we had everybody standing shoulder to shoulder as they were hurling invectives at us, as they were spitting on us, as they were throwing urine balloons over the top of our heads. And at that moment, about five minutes of this, the police came in and arrested a bunch of antifa leaders. And I believe that that was a really a prophetic marker, a moment for the country, that if the church stands, if the citizens stand, so will the rest of the country. And so we train citizens to identify communist and jihadi networks, and we teach them practical ways that they can help disrupt that and educate and back their local elected officials and local law enforcement to stand against it. Now, we know, and as a constitutional attorney, I've said this many times, that I believe the Constitution bans Sharia law because the Constitution says it's the supreme law of the land. And yet Sharia law claims not just to be the supreme law of the land that it's in, but also the supreme law of the world. Then you also have freedom of speech. You cannot apostasize from Islam without a death sentence. In fact, if you speak against Islam, you can get the death sentence. And so you have no freedom of speech there. You have no freedom of equality in Islam.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Just talking about this one. Hang on, hang on. This is one of the reasons I.

[Aaron Reitz]

Want to have you on.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Why on msnbc, right? Particularly around the Minnesota situation or the Red Green alliance in New York or Chicago or Seattle or Portland where you guys have been, they say Matt Shea's a smart guy, he's a constant lawyer, but he's a religious bigot. This is about a religion. And Shay is just dead wrong. He's a smart guy, he knows what he's doing, but he's a religious bigot. He just doesn't like Islam as a religion. You're a sponsor, right?

[Matt Shea]

You know, and that makes us all bigots because we love the United States of America and the Constitution. The fact of the matter is Islam is not a religion. It is a complete way of life. Those are not my words. Those are the words in the foremost textbook, what Islam is all about. That is throughout classrooms in the United States of America. That's from that textbook. So they recognize that this is a theopolitical construct. In fact, over half of the the Quran and not, not even talking about the Sunnah and the Sira and the Hadiths, half of the Quran is overtly political mosques. And Muhammad used mosques for this. As Frank was saying earlier, the perfect example in Islam, mosques are used not just to teach the Quran. Mosques are used as a military barracks, they're used to store weapons. In fact, as a soldier, I spent 10 years in the United States Army. We ran into that in Iraq on the ground. And also it's used as a place to adjudicate Sharia law. And this is really, Steve, all about Sharia law. At the very core of this, we are making a choice. Do we want to follow Western civilization and the Judeo Christian foundations of Western civilization or do we want to follow Sharia law? Texas is the vanguard in this. With this vote on March 3rd to say we want to follow Western civilization and the Judeo Christian foundations that have made the United States of America great. And I do find it prophetic. And I think you've mentioned this, that March 3rd was the day that the caliphate was abolished in 1924. Four years later, in 1928, Hassan Al Banna started the Muslim Brotherhood with the expressed desire, the expressed purpose of re establishing the caliphate in the world. And so citizens need to get involved. This is critical. And another way that citizens can get involved is citizen lawyers can get involved in civil litigation. And I have not heard anybody talk about this at the national level that the False Claims Act, a Key TAM action. And let me explain what that is very quickly. You can file an action where the government has been defrauded. The attorney general, if the attorney general pursues the action, there's nothing more done. And the person that brings that forward can get a percentage of what is recouped for the government in fraud. But if the attorney general denies taking that action forward, the citizen can pursue that action as a plaintiff to recover that money for the the United States government. And we're talking anything fraudulent, billing, increasing costs, fraudulently talking about not just inflating costs, but phantom employees, talking about false certifications, all of these things under the False Claims act can be brought forward. And not only does the citizen and the lawyer get a portion of that for recouping that for the taxpayers, but they can use that money then as a war chest to bring these forward. I think this is something that we've not talked about enough and we need to bring forward at the national level with all the fraud going on in Minnesota and my home state here in Washington.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Matt Quicker, we got a couple minutes. I want to know what tools you guys are prepared to back to teach, train pastors and others. I want people to know where do they go and what are you guys prepared to do? Because you couldn't have a better group than the Flynn's and yourself and the others that are associated with you guys. But I want people really to make sure they get access and then they kind of know what they're asking for.

[Matt Shea]

Absolutely. So they can go to america's future.net they can sign up for the role of the church training, that is the training primarily aimed at pastors. And then also on that same site they can go to the into action training for citizens. So both avenues are open. And again Steve, I really believe that the footprint, the largest footprint in the United States of America that can push back against this attempt to Islamicize the United States is the church. But pastors need to step forward. Citizens need to step forward. President Trump, Greg Abbott cannot do this alone. It's gotta be all of us standing on the line. And if the church and the citizens stand, if Texas stands like I said earlier, the rest of the country will follow and we will preserve Western civilization and bless God by keeping America free.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Matt, if we get the pastors up to speed, that's the point, and this starts on March 3rd of stopping Sharia law and making sure then we get it on the November ballot and win overwhelmingly there. The going on offense part. When are we. I got about a minute, but I got to hear this from you. When are we going to get Christian pastors? Particularly because the Catholic church has completely dropped the ball on this and I'm a Catholic, but the, the, the evangelicals who in their name is to evangelize. When are we going to start a mass movement to convert the Muslims to Christianity, sir?

[Matt Shea]

Well, that's one of the great things that we have done and there are pastors that are standing up, especially the last three months, it's been like a light bulb has turned on. We have specific evangelism regarding Muslims. In fact, you'll hear throughout the Middle east that they have had dreams about Jesus Christ, the man in white, and they're asking who it is. We have a very big opportunity right now. In fact, Iran is one of the fastest growing Christian countries in the Middle east right now. So we have a very, very clear opportunity to do this. We should always be evangelizing, but we need to hold the line against this attempt to make Sharia the supreme law of the land.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Matt, social media, any social media for you specifically to go to. We got the site to go to for the, for the America's future. Where do they go? Any social media for you?

[Matt Shea]

Absolutely. I'm on X at Rep. Matt Shea spent 12 years in the Washington state legislature and if Washington state can ban the creation of Sharia courts and can ban the enforcement of Sharia court orders, any state in the union can do it.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Matt, thank you so much. Honored to have you on here.

[Matt Shea]

Thank you, Steve. God bless.

[Aaron Reitz]

We're going to leave you, we're going.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

To leave you now with the searchers and I am going to to be back tomorrow morning 10:00am Eastern Standard Time. We'll see you then in the war room.

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