WarRoom Battleground EP 942: Stopping The Muslim Brotherhood From Stealing Texas And Suing CAIR

Summary

Podcast Summary: Bannon's War Room – Battleground EP 942

Title: "Stopping The Muslim Brotherhood From Stealing Texas And Suing CAIR"
Date: February 5, 2026
Host: Steve Bannon (WarRoom.org)
Guests: Sid Miller (Texas Agriculture Commissioner), John Guandolo (Former FBI, Counterterrorism Expert)

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Episode Overview

This episode is focused on the perceived threat of the Muslim Brotherhood, CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations), and Sharia law influencing Texas politics and society. Steve Bannon hosts Texas Agriculture Commissioner Sid Miller for an in-depth discussion on Texas agriculture, the importance of the upcoming "Sharia law" ballot proposition (Proposition 10), and broader themes about national security, grassroots mobilization, and American sovereignty. In the second part, counterintelligence expert John Guandolo expands on the risks posed by the Muslim Brotherhood and explains how public awareness on these topics has changed over time, framing the conflict as an information and cultural war.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Opening Statements on Sharia and the Muslim Brotherhood

• The show opens with dramatic warnings from all speakers about foreign and Islamic threats inside Texas, especially in cities like Houston and northern Dallas.
  • "They are working together to overthrow Western civilization, Sharia compounds which are areas governed by religious rules." – Sid Miller (00:14)
  • "Any attempt to impose Sharia law in Texas. They are not coming. They are already here." – Steve Bannon (00:33)
• Explicit assertion that Sharia law is fundamentally incompatible with the U.S. Constitution.
  • "The United States Constitution and Sharia are fundamentally at odds with one another." – Steve Bannon (00:44)

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2. Sid Miller’s Background & Lessons from Trump Era Agriculture Policy

• Miller recounts being considered for Trump’s Secretary of Agriculture post-2016 and his first-mover support for Trump, even over fellow Texans Rick Perry and Ted Cruz (01:26–03:25).
  • "There's no doubt in my mind. This is the man. He's bold, independent. No one owns him...and he's for the family farmer." – Sid Miller (03:25)
• Discussion of the importance and resilience of American family farms:
  • 95% of U.S. farms are family-owned, contrary to the common belief about corporate dominance (04:14–04:36).
  • "95% of the farms in America are family farms...run by the families...passed down from generation to generation." – Sid Miller (04:14)

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3. Trade Policy, Tariffs, and Agriculture

• Miller credits Trump’s tariffs and trade deals for benefiting family farmers, especially by securing new markets and raising commodity prices (05:40–06:22).
  • "Trump's aggressive trade policies...put us in the black. He found us new markets, increased our markets, got commitments to buy our products." – Sid Miller (05:40)
• Strong criticism of President Biden’s agricultural policy:
  • No new trade agreements under Biden, focus on "Green New Deal" and "DEI" instead of export expansion, leading to a $50 billion agriculture trade deficit (06:57–07:19).
  • "Biden left us with a $50 billion agriculture trade deficit. That means we are dependent on foreign nation to feed us...the most dangerous situation I think we've ever been in." – Sid Miller (07:19)

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4. Texas-Specific Issues: Water, Data Centers, and Agricultural Land

• Miller explains the Rio Grande water treaty dispute with Mexico, crediting Trump’s tariffs for forcing Mexico to pay its water debt—critical for Texas’ sugarcane and citrus farmers (08:46–09:41).
  • "Mexico has dammed up all the tributaries...Trump put the pressure on them...we’re going to put an extra 5% tariff across the board...and they paid." – Sid Miller (09:10)
• Raises alarm about the proliferation of data centers in Texas:
  • 400+ data centers taking up fertile farmland, consuming large amounts of water and electricity, risking rising electric rates (10:51–11:18)
  • Miller’s solution: "Agriculture Freedom Zones"—incentives to site data centers on marginal rather than productive land (12:03).
  • Planning for advanced tech: promoting small modular nuclear reactors that don’t consume water or fertile land (12:19–13:50).

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5. Nutrition and Farm-to-School Initiatives

• Miller describes revamping Texas school nutrition programs to prioritize locally grown and less processed foods, reducing reliance on unhealthy, ultra-processed imports (14:02–15:23).
  • "Schools weren’t serving any local products...Now, last year, our schools bought and served $300 million worth of locally grown products." – Sid Miller (15:23)
• Miller notes support and collaboration from Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and the "Make America Healthy Again" (MAHA) platform.
  • "Bobby Kennedy picked up on that, and we become good friends. I’m part of the MAHA team." – Sid Miller (15:43)

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6. Relationship and Tensions with Governor Greg Abbott

• Miller critiques Abbott for not supporting his re-election and for “overreaching” during COVID, particularly in agricultural regulation (16:53–17:16).
• Miller defied Abbott's shutdowns, keeping ag businesses open by executive order (17:16–18:06).

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7. Immigration and the Texas Agricultural Labor Force

• Discussion on legal migrant labor (via H2A visa program) for Texas agriculture and a decline in use of undocumented workers due to automation and evolving technology (19:13–19:48).
• Miller affirms majority of Texas agriculture is now "legal" and shifting away from dependence on illegal labor (19:13–20:28).

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8. Upcoming Election and Proposition 10: Sharia Law

• Sid Miller explains his early calls (October 2025) for the Muslim Brotherhood and CAIR to be designated terrorist organizations due to perceived attempts to implement Sharia law in Texas (24:21–25:28).
  • "This is not religious freedom. This is a government takeover. I mean, look at France, Germany, Sweden, and don’t even talk about Britain." – Sid Miller (24:33)
• Farmers and ranchers are described as broadly supportive of banning Sharia law.
  • "We got to stop this before we end up like London." – Sid Miller (24:56)
• Proposition 10, the ballot initiative to prohibit Sharia law in Texas, is predicted to pass by a substantial margin.
  • "It'll pass with 95 plus percent." – Sid Miller (25:51)

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9. Interview with John Guandolo: The War Against Sharia and The Muslim Brotherhood

• Guandolo, a former FBI agent and counterterrorism trainer, emphasizes that awareness and public discussion of "Islamic threat" is finally becoming mainstream after years of suppression (33:58–35:54).
  • "Those of us who are out here speaking...we’ve been threatened, audited by the IRS, sued...now it’s being talked about." – John Guandolo (33:58)
• He characterizes the Muslim Brotherhood as orchestrating a "war" inside the U.S. using proxies, with the aim of imposing Sharia.
  • "This is a war that's being waged by hostile foreign powers using thousands of proxies in the United States." – John Guandolo (33:58)

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Guandolo's Key Points:

• The centrality of Sharia to the global Islamic agenda and the lack of deep understanding about it among U.S. decision-makers.
  • "Everything they do is about Sharia...the stated purpose of Islam is to impose Allah’s divine law, Sharia, on the earth." – John Guandolo (38:09)
• Warns that while citizens are self-educating on Sharia and Islamic groups, government and law enforcement remain out of their depth.
  • "100% have said [after training] ‘we did not know this’...Do you believe this is critical to protecting your community? 100% say yes." – John Guandolo (42:25)
• Expresses frustration at national security strategy relying on "advice" from individuals or groups he characterizes as "hostile" or connected to the Muslim Brotherhood.
  • "100% of the people we're leaning on to get advice...are Muslim Brotherhood. They're hostile. They're jihadis in suits, claiming to be nice people." – John Guandolo (44:00)
• Insists that at the highest levels of government, there are no trustworthy Muslim advisers not engaged in subversive activity.

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10. Action Items and Political Mobilization

• Bannon and guests repeatedly emphasize voting for Proposition 10 in the March 3rd Texas primary as a critical step to "stop" Sharia law, calling for high grassroots turnout.
  • "First step, go to the polls. The primary on March 3rd or early voting starts the 17th. Make sure that you vote proposition 10 to prohibit Sharia law in the state of Texas. Prop 10." – Steve Bannon (50:35)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the threat of Sharia law:

  • "Take your Sharia law and shove it." – John Guandolo (00:56)
  • "Islam will never dominate the United States." – Steve Bannon (01:00)
  • "As Texas goes, so goes the nation. As the nation goes, so goes the world." – John Guandolo (01:03, 31:30)

• On the family farm:

  • "The family farms are still the heartbeat of rural America. 95%...are family farms." – Sid Miller (04:14)

• On public awakening:

  • "I've never seen a galvanizing issue come together so quickly about this." – Steve Bannon (35:54)

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Important Timestamps

• 00:00–01:20: Dramatic framing, "Islamic threat" to Texas and the U.S.
• 01:26–04:36: Sid Miller's background, Trump support, roots in farming.
• 04:55–06:22: Discussion of farm economics—tariffs, Trump vs. Biden.
• 08:46–09:41: Water dispute with Mexico; Trump’s leverage.
• 10:51–12:19: Data centers eating up farmland, lack of regulation.
• 14:02–15:23: School nutrition overhaul, "Farm Fresh Friday".
• 16:53–18:06: Sid Miller vs. Governor Abbott over COVID, regulation.
• 19:13–20:28: Legal vs. illegal workers in Texas agriculture.
• 24:21–25:28: Miller’s early call to designate Muslim Brotherhood/CAIR as terrorists.
• 31:30–38:09: John Guandolo on Sharia infiltration and the "permission structure" for public debate.
• 42:25–44:00: Citizen vs. government understanding of threat.
• 50:35: Final action: urging listeners to vote YES on Prop 10 (ban Sharia law).

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Tone & Style

The tone is urgent, combative, and direct, emphasizing existential threats, political mobilization, and cultural warfare. Bannon, Miller, and Guandolo speak in a confident, no-nonsense manner, targeting both grassroots listeners and policymakers with a clarion call to action.

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Final Call to Action

Listeners are strongly encouraged to vote for Proposition 10 to ban Sharia law in Texas, described as a vital, America-first step to defend constitutional values.

• "Make sure that you vote proposition 10 to prohibit Sharia law in the state of Texas. Prop 10." – Steve Bannon (50:35)

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NOTE:
This summary is prepared using the speakers' own language and perspectives throughout, offering clarity on their arguments, concerns, and political recommendations, and should be read as a reflection of the podcast’s original tone and priorities.

Transcript

[Steve Bannon]

Foreign. Islamic Jihadis are plotting against you.

[John Guandolo]

Why in the hell you think they're in Houston?

[Steve Bannon]

In the north of Dallas.

[Sid Miller]

They are working together to overthrow Western civilization, Sharia compounds which are areas governed by religious rules.

[John Guandolo]

We know who you are, we know what you are, and we know what.

[Steve Bannon]

You'Re trying to accomplish. And it is not going to happen.

[John Guandolo]

In the jewel of the crown of the union of this republic, we purge.

[Steve Bannon]

Any attempt to impose Sharia law in Texas. They are not coming. They are already here.

[John Guandolo]

You are not here properly and you're going to leave.

[Steve Bannon]

On 3 March, Sharia law goes on the ballot in the state of Texas. The United States Constitution and Sharia are fundamentally at odds with one another.

[John Guandolo]

We're going to tell them, take your Sharia law and shove it.

[Steve Bannon]

Islam will never dominate the United States.

[John Guandolo]

Grace of God, it will not dominate Texas. As Texas goes, so goes the nation. As the nation goes, so goes the world. Are you prepared to fight for this state? Are you prepared to fight for your country?

[Sid Miller]

War Room Texas. Your host, Stephen K. Bannon starts right now.

[Steve Bannon]

It's Thursday 5th, February, in the year of our Lord 2026. We're very honored to have Sid Miller, the commissioner culture in in Texas, here as our guest for the first half of the show. Sid, I first met you right after our come from behind victory in 2016 down in Mar a Lago.

[Sid Miller]

That's right.

[Steve Bannon]

What was it, what Ryan's previous night called you? What was that meeting about?

[Sid Miller]

Well, I'd been called to Mar a Lago for. For an interview, and you're. You're pretty good. You grill hard man for. I was considered for Secretary of Agriculture. Cabinet position. Yes, sir.

[Steve Bannon]

In fact, you were the COVID bid. It turned out Sonny Perdue got it. But later on, correct me if I'm wrong, I think you were approached a year or two later to say, hey, look, for the second term, the President wanted you as ag as the Secretary of Agriculture. Sonny. Governor Perdue was going to move on. They actually talked to you about coming in as a deputy, getting the Senate confirmed. So you go through the FBI checks, etc. And then you would fleet up to Agriculture Secretary.

[Sid Miller]

We were going in as deputy secretary. Deputy had resigned. It was towards the end of the administration. And then after the election, Sonny wasn't going to do another term. And then they'd slide me in from deputy into the secretary's position.

[Steve Bannon]

Let's go back to that time. What was it that you felt with a populist nationalist outsider like Trump coming in, breaking every Rule in the traditional Republican Party and really in politics at the time. Your pitch about being Secretary of Agriculture, what did you think the country had to do as far as agriculture? Because right now we're in a situation. I think we're doing a $14 billion kind of bailout of farmers. Right. Because of the tariff situation. What was your recommendation at the time that we should do?

[Sid Miller]

Well, you know, I was a Trump supporter early on. The first statewide elected official in Texas. I remember.

[Steve Bannon]

You know, that was big back then. Yeah, well, I was running Brightbart at.

[Sid Miller]

The time when we had two Texans running, you know, we had Rick Perry and Ted Cruz. Ted Cruz.

[Steve Bannon]

So why did you, why did you decide to back Trump back then?

[Sid Miller]

There's no, there's no doubt my mind. This is the man. Well, you know, he, he's bold. He's. He's independent. No one owns him. You know, he, He. I could tell he loves America. And in that day, you know, you told me that he loves the family farmer and that, you know, that, that, that was all I needed to hear. He was for the family farmer. And that, That's. That's my people, man. That's. That's us. That's who I represent. So I have, I brought you this cattle going.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you.

[Sid Miller]

Keep it with you, because if you don't have it, next time, you have to buy the drinks.

[Steve Bannon]

We won't want to do that. Tell me about family farms. Where do you think we are right now? We got, we got Brooks around. We have a Texan as Secretary Agriculture right now. Of course, Brooks started the America First Policy Institute. Where do you think we are in the country overall, not just Texas with family farms?

[Sid Miller]

Well, the family farms are still the heartbeat of rural America. 95%. This is shocking. 95% of the farms in America are family farms. Everybody thinks it's big corporate, and that.

[Steve Bannon]

Would be defined as what, you know.

[Sid Miller]

Run by the families. Some, Some of them are incorporated. Yeah, yeah, for, for legal reasons. But.

[Steve Bannon]

But it'll be able to pass down.

[Sid Miller]

And pass down in tax reasons, things like that. But, yeah, 95% are family farms, and a lot of them are passed on from generation to generation to generation.

[Steve Bannon]

But these are the ones that are under siege the most. Right. In fact, the bailout is really trying to make sure we're not bailing out agribusiness, but we're bailing a family farm. So what pressures are they under today?

[Sid Miller]

Well, we've got. And the pressures are a lot less. They're getting better and better and fixing to get really, really good. The tariffs. And Trump said this in the first administration, he reminded them, this time, you know, it's going to get a little rough, but I'm going to take care of you. I'll take this tariff money and I'll prop you up. You stay with me. And now we're seeing the results of that. You know, China just bought a bunch of soybeans. They're talking about buying some more. The prices are coming up. We're going to get good prices for our commodities. When Trump left that first administration, farmers were making more money than it ever made. It was good.

[Steve Bannon]

And think of the year 19 before the pandemic.

[Sid Miller]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, he was Even during.

[Steve Bannon]

The pandemic, what were those policies and what were those policies then that contributed to farms, and particularly family farms, doing well?

[Sid Miller]

Well, Trump's aggressive trade policies is what, what put us in the black. He, he found us new markets, he increased our markets, he got commitments to buy our products. We, we were, you know, agriculture exp. Roof and we, we owned the agriculture exports around the world, thanks to Donald Trump, is.

[Steve Bannon]

Do you feel the second term, the second administration, he's just as focused, gave a talk the other day about this very topic, about how he loves the farmers. The farmers already supported him. I know the media is trying to make a big deal about his tariff policies a day being even more aggressive from Liberation Day. Do you feel that his policies so far have helped particularly not just agribusiness, but the family farmer?

[Sid Miller]

Oh, absolutely. You know, that, that first tournament took like two years for this to get to this point. We're there in about 12 months, 14 months. We're going to tip over a lot sooner. Farmers are going to make a lot more money a lot quicker because those, those tariffs are kicking in. They're working. We had had the first time, he had like two, maybe three, you know, bailouts. We had one. This time is all it's going to take. So farmers ready to make some money. Biden runt the agriculture industry.

[Steve Bannon]

What did he do? What specifically in your mind did Biden do to hurt agriculture?

[Sid Miller]

He didn't make one trade agreement.

[John Guandolo]

None.

[Sid Miller]

Didn't sign one contract. So not only did we not find new markets for agriculture producers, we didn't even keep the customers. We had the Foreign Agriculture Service and usda, they were all focused on the Green New Deal, climate change, lbgtq, dei, you know, all this.

[Steve Bannon]

And it's not related to the business? Actually, no.

[Sid Miller]

Their deal is to, you know, protect and promote agriculture. So first time in My lifetime, you know, America's always been the breadbasket of the world. We grow enough for ourselves and feed a lot of the rest of the world. Agriculture has always been one of our top exports. Biden left us with a $50 billion agriculture trade deficit. We are buying $50 billion more food than we're selling. That means we are dependent on foreign nation to feed us. When we're dependent on somebody else to feed us, that's when they can have full power over America. That's the most dangerous situation I think we've ever been in. So we're working hard to turn that around. My office, I have 45 international trade missions set up in the next 12 months.

[Steve Bannon]

45 that you're going out, they're coming to you or you're going to go.

[Sid Miller]

Some of them are inbound, most of them are outbound. I just got a team back from Dubai, one back from Oman, and one back from Mexico.

[Steve Bannon]

This is to be basically a sales agent for the department for Texas Agricultural product.

[Sid Miller]

Exactly. We take companies with us. We take on those trips about 15 to 20.

[Steve Bannon]

You're the tip of the spear of this issue with Mexico, with. With illegal alien labor. But also Mexico is our biggest trade partner in agriculture. Walk us through what President Trump has done to make sure that the American farmer is put first versus the. Because there's a ton of product comes in from Mexico. And quite frankly, on the affordability issue, you need some of that, correct?

[Sid Miller]

Well, yes, the biggest thing. This is huge for Texans. It is. We got our water bill paid. They're paying the greed yesterday. We have a 1944 water treaty. We share the Rio Grande and share the water in it. Well, Mexico has dammed up all the tributaries and rivers that flow into it and holding back the water and won't pay their part. So we lost our sugarcane industry in Texas. Last plant closed.

[Steve Bannon]

Not enough water.

[Sid Miller]

Water. We're losing our citrus industry. Our, our. That's our winter garden there where we grow our winter vegetables and they can plant a crop. No water. So Trump put the pressure on them. They announced yesterday that they are going to pay the next five years, you know, 350,000 cubic feet every year. And they're going to catch up and get current with the water that they owe us. So that's huge for Texas Ag.

[Steve Bannon]

Is that. Is that because maybe get you over on the shuttle more. Is that. Is that because of pressure President Trump put on him?

[Sid Miller]

Absolutely nothing. There's no other reason than, you know, early I went up and met with a friend, Stephen Miller.

[Steve Bannon]

Yep.

[Sid Miller]

He said, this is, you know, back early. And he said, oh, I didn't know about this. Let me just. I'll get to Trump. When did somebody tell me? I said, well, you know, there was. That's what you get. And he said, no. I said. And so about two days later, Trump announced, look, Mexico, if you don't pay your water, you're not getting your water from the Colorado River. We'll just hold your water. And they paid a little bit, but it didn't quite get there. And then. And after that, he said, you know, you need to pay that water bill, and if it's not paid by this date, we're going to put an extra 5% tariff across the board on Mexico.

[Sponsor/Announcer]

You talk about water and that got.

[Sid Miller]

Them to the table.

[Steve Bannon]

What's the tension inside of Texas of? Because Texas has been principally an agriculture, real estate, oil field, services. Now you get tech, big tech in the data Centers. You know, Governor DeSantis just said this morning, no data centers in Florida at all. He says, I'm not going to have data centers come down here, drive up the price electricity for consumers, plus start taking our water, which we don't have that much of, and all to, you know, get these kids online and have these chat bots talking suicide to them. Texas is at the cutting edge of tech.

[Sid Miller]

Exactly.

[Steve Bannon]

Austin, you always got Elon Musk. But with tech comes data centers. And with data centers comes not just this whole set of the Texas grid and acro, but it is the biggest source of drainage of water in the country, particularly the aquifers of Texas. What's going to happen here?

[Sid Miller]

Well, it's too late to stop them. And they're here. We've had 400 of them already.

[Steve Bannon]

400 data.

[Sid Miller]

And there's no oversight. There's no guardrails, there's no organization.

[Steve Bannon]

I want people to hear this. They're just running.

[Sid Miller]

Well, they're just run wild. They set up the count. Our counties have no ordinance making authority, so they can just do whatever. So I get so many complaints. They're building on our very most fertile farmland, taking up our, you know, once you pave over that farmland, it's gone. I mean, you don't have it. And they're using a lot of water and electricity and driving up electric rates. So no one's doing anything. And I don't, I'm, I don't like regulation. I like incentives, you know, encourage people to do the right thing. So I came up this idea called agriculture Freedom Zones. And if you'll Build in our marginal land, not productive land. We'll give you some incentives like deferred capital gains or accelerated depreciation. And we'll get them. They'll take us up on that. They'll say oh wow, I can't pass.

[Steve Bannon]

That mean you'll take it away. So they're not taking agricultural land. They're out in the more desert areas. More. The areas.

[Sid Miller]

The land we can't use for anything. So we'll put them there.

[Steve Bannon]

Now we do have transmission though. They'll say, hey, we're losing so much on transmission from these remote things. You got incentivize.

[Sid Miller]

Make the incentives good enough. They'll do it. We're going to solve the water and electricity problem with a product called smr. SMR is Small Modular Reactor. They're similar to what we've been using.

[Steve Bannon]

I mean nuke. You mean nuclear reactor.

[Sid Miller]

Yeah, same with. Same we've been using for 60 years on our submarines and aircraft carriers. So these things are much safer.

[Steve Bannon]

Submarines and aircraft carriers.

[Sponsor/Announcer]

You've got.

[Steve Bannon]

Hyman Rickover is great. I was a naval officer. The, the nuclear Navy is the best. Are you going to have the same quality? I mean we haven't had an accident I think since Admiral Rickover started. Are you confident?

[Sid Miller]

None.

[Steve Bannon]

But are you confident that bringing nuclear power in here, which I'm a big nuclear power proponent, it's going to be safe enough for the state of Texas?

[Sid Miller]

These are actually much safer than what we're using on the submarines and ships. So they can put these in and they. You can just add them.

[Steve Bannon]

Like, like that doesn't take the energy part of that, but it's still going to the water.

[John Guandolo]

It.

[Sid Miller]

Well, yeah, it does do. So these, these SMRs will actually. They could put power back on the grid instead of taking it off.

[Steve Bannon]

And he's saying be they actually be positive.

[Sid Miller]

Yes.

[Steve Bannon]

For the, for the population to potentially.

[Sid Miller]

Lower electrical bills and they don't have to be cooled with water. That's the. Another big deal. They can be cooled with hydrogen and Roger Abilene Christian UNIVERSITY they're doing research on molten salt cooling with salt. And so we use those. Those are closed loops. So there's no, you know, anything to get rid of. And they don't use our water and they're going to use our electricity. We're going to be in pretty good shape. Pretty good shape.

[Steve Bannon]

How long you been Agriculture commissioner?

[Sid Miller]

I'm in my third term, so 11 years.

[Steve Bannon]

11 years. And what's the biggest changes that you feel you've contributed to agriculture In Texas.

[Sid Miller]

Well, we've done a lot of things and I'll just pick one. This, this probably affects more people than anybody else. So I'm in charge of nutrition in that.

[Steve Bannon]

How would Bobby Kennedy raid you make America healthy again? Well, he's got some different ideas on nutrition, right. But they say the agriculture, you know, they say agriculture is the most important part of our health for he says hhs, we cut all Americans being being sick and having chronic illness by, by the food. It's all in the soil.

[Sid Miller]

Well and he's right and I agree with him and actually I was Maha 10 years ago when I you told took this office because our schools. I'm responsible for 5.5 million school meals every day. I mean that's, that's a big lunchroom the whole state of Texas. So our schools weren't serving any local products. None. It was all ultra processed flash frozen added sauce, dyes, preservatives. You know, just instead of having healthy kids, we had healthy trash cans. It tastes like crap. No one would eat it. So I went on this program to farm Fresh program and again through incentives, not, not regulation encourage schools at least on Friday to serve something local and have Meet the Farmer Friday. So we've expanded from that bottom line. Last year our schools bought and served $300 million worth of locally grown products. Very healthy. A lot of it's organic, no added diet.

[Steve Bannon]

Do you, do you hope to be of those are your. Is your target that all 5.5 million meals one day will be from Texas product Texas kids eating Texas agriculture.

[Sid Miller]

We're getting close. 81% of the schools on a voluntary basis are participating in our program and Bobby Kennedy picked up on that and we become good friends. I'm part of the MAHA team.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay.

[Sponsor/Announcer]

When we talk about that.

[Sid Miller]

Well, when we unveiled the new food pyramid, I was there with him, saw that and so that, that was. That's.

[Steve Bannon]

Did you ever think you'd be up there with a guy named Bobby Kennedy Jr. Hardcore as you are saying, I'm.

[Sid Miller]

Part of your temple, huh?

[Steve Bannon]

He's done a hell of a job though. Do you think that, do you think the part about the agriculture and the make America healthy again, do you think that's just optics? Are you convinced this is real?

[Sid Miller]

Oh, this is real. It is real. I mean we, we've got, we spend so much money on, on health care. I mean it is and it's climbing. We, you know, people are. Since COVID people's outlook on the food they eat is a lot different. I call them These, these Covid moms, they want to know where the food comes from, they want to know what's in it, they want to know who grew it.

[Steve Bannon]

And well, that's part of our coalition. That's what Kennedy and people like Tulsa Gabbard added thing. Governor Abbott, you. You, I think an ally of Governor Abbott at one time. He is not endorsing you for this race. No. Look, and Abbott, I've had enough. But he's, you know, he's ahead of the curve on the sharia stuff. What is about the falling out with you and Governor Abbott and what is. Why did he endorse your opponent?

[Sid Miller]

Well, I don't think he likes me.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah, why don't you like it?

[Sid Miller]

Well, just your.

[Steve Bannon]

Just your style.

[Sid Miller]

I call him out. Look, my job is to protect agriculture, promote agriculture. So going back to Covid, he had all these where you shut down businesses, you know, essential, non essential business. Well, I had livestock auction shut down. Feed dealers, western stores.

[Steve Bannon]

I had to, you know, that must have been easy.

[Sid Miller]

Shutting down. I started. Oh man. So I'm autonomous. I'm not part of the government. I mean I have executive power over the ag culture code. So I said, wait a minute, I'm going to issue my own executive order. Any agriculture business, any ag culture related business or any business, sports, agriculture. You're essential and you're to stay open. So we opened up all the feed, seed, fertilizer dealers, western stores, florists, landscapers, gun shops. He had them all closed. And that did not sit well with me. Couldn't. He couldn't figure out how to deal with it. And then again he decided that he was going to inspect trucks as they were coming across the river from Mexico even though they'd already been inspected. And he shut down the border. And we lost $3 billion worth of product rotted on those trucks that backed up. We had 750 Texas owned trucks in Mexico.

[Steve Bannon]

Do you think that he was doing that? Do you think that that level of care of shutting them down for the double and triple inspections was worth it? Or you disagree with that?

[Sid Miller]

Well, I'll tell you the result and you can decide. Found zero illegal aliens and zero contraband. Nothing in a week's worth. And it cost us $3 billion worth of product.

[Steve Bannon]

Illegal aliens. There's a big controversy now with Tom Holman, who. I'm a big fan of Tom Holman. Tom Holman saying there's unprecedented cooperation in these big cities. And I'm saying, come on, Tom. I mean the Minnesota fry. And these guys laugh at you every day. Hochul in New York and now Spanberger in Virginia have put out decrees, executive orders in the 24, 48 hours saying no law enforcement in the Commonwealth of Virginia, no law enforcement in the entire state will work with ICE at all. Now, one of the big issues in Texas is clearly construction, oil field workers and agriculture. Our understanding is that a couple of big raids on the construction things were called off because it would affect business. They couldn't do stuff. What is the situation in Texas, with Texas agriculture about really having American citizens as the labor force?

[Sid Miller]

I think this is misunderstood. At one time we used a lot of ill legal labor.

[Steve Bannon]

No doubt about that.

[Sid Miller]

Not, not, not now, though. We need about 800,000 migrant workers. We have a program called the H2A program. It's a legal way to get workers up here. We started with 75,000. We worked that up last year to 400,000. We're getting an extra hundred thousand now. We got 500,000 of the 800,000, but the 800,000 is shrinking. The need is dropping in the technology. Technology. We have cows that milk themselves, drone unmanned drones that spray our crops. We've got.

[Steve Bannon]

Is that 500,000. Are you confident that couldn't be done with American labor if the wages were higher?

[Sid Miller]

Well, I'll tell you what, the last thing that a farmer wants to do, let's say a dairyman, he wants to hear, you know, that he has to hire an illegal. That's his only option because somebody wakes him up at 4 in the morning, say, hey, boss, they just picked up all the hands. Who's going to milk the cows? You don't want to put yourself in that position. Who's going to. Who's going to pick the crops today? How are we going to get the crops in? All the hands are just, you know, border patrol just picked them all up. So, no, they do not want to work illegals. I mean, sometimes that's only choice you have. You do what you have to do to, you know, feed the family. But for the most part, we don't work near as many of them as we used to.

[Steve Bannon]

What would you tell Tom Holman? What's the best way for Tom Holman and ICE in the state of Texas to do this? That's logical to do it. That so you're not crippling business. It's humane, but it's got to happen. If mass deportations is what the American people are demanding, what would be your recommendation home and.

[Sid Miller]

Well, I think I'm the least qualified to tell Tom Holman how to do his job. I think he's doing a perfect job. He knows that job better than anybody else. And, and Tom, just keep doing what you're doing. You're doing great. I mean, you got my 100% approval.

[Steve Bannon]

Now you've got a young he. I think his name sheets says he's a populist nationalist. He's your competitor this time. And then what's. Where are the difference in policies? Let's leave personality aside, but policies between what he's proposing and what you're proposing.

[Sid Miller]

Well, the only time I disagreed with the president is when he came out and said we need to import more Argentine beef. I said, oh, wait a minute, let me, let me give you some different ideas to fix this problem. We need to grow the cattle herd. We need more cattle. Not, not that this complicates our agriculture trade deficit, makes it worse. So I said, you know, open up some great. Biden kicked all of our ranchers off the grazing land because of calf likes and climate change. And, and so is that really the reason they. Yeah, yeah. So I said, so open those grazing land so we got a place to put our cows. We don't have to send them to slaughter. When in the drought, Bergen almost immediately opened 5 million acres. So that's good. And I said, put in a heifer retention tax credit. You know, if a farmer keeps a heifer, give him $500 off his taxes, they'll start keeping them and growing the herd. I promise.

[Steve Bannon]

Because you're saying you, and particularly in Texas, you want Texas beef and American beef versus either Brazilian or Argentina.

[Sid Miller]

We don't need that. No, we, you know, it's not even the same quality. You can't even compare it. So we want the, It's American. This part of the, this is part.

[Steve Bannon]

Of the financial ballot. I know my buddy Scott Bessant worked under the part of the Argentine thing was help them get cash, generate cash to pay down their. Because economy is all. Do you think you've stopped that because of your policies?

[Sid Miller]

Well, what they did was minuscule. It was less than 2% of what we needed. So it really didn't move the needle very much, you know, 2% of what.

[Steve Bannon]

You needed to get the American.

[Sid Miller]

Yeah. So it didn't, it didn't. It might have lowered and it was only hamburger meat. Didn't change the price of a steak or a roast or any, you know, the high quality cuts. But, you know, that's really not in my vision, America first policy. We need those jobs here. We need our slaughter Plants to process, our. Our trucks, you know, our farmers, you know, and then why would.

[Steve Bannon]

Why would Abbott disagree with you on any of these? These are all America First, Texas agriculture first that.

[Sid Miller]

My opponent says that we just need to buy more foreign beef, and I disagree with him on that. My education is in ag culture. He has none. I was an ag teacher and taught FFA and 4H and couldn't wait when I turned 9 to get into 4H so I could start showing animals. He was never even. He hadn't lived on a farm.

[Steve Bannon]

Is this the toughest primary race you think you've had?

[Sid Miller]

This is the least qualified person I've ever run against. But he's. But he's rich and a hard worker, I'll give him that. He's spending lots of money trying to buy the election, but he's. He's really unqualified because he's never lived on a farm. He said that FFA didn't teach kids anything about agriculture. I mean, the guy. Just clueless.

[Steve Bannon]

So you're a big supporter of Future Farmers of America?

[Sid Miller]

Oh, yeah. It's. It's the best.

[Steve Bannon]

It.

[Sid Miller]

It actually teaches leadership too. That's where we get some of our best leaders is through Brooke Rollins, the secretary of ag company Got her starting ffa.

[Steve Bannon]

She talks about all the time.

[Sid Miller]

Ye.

[Steve Bannon]

We got a couple of minutes left. One of the reasons that we've moved the show here is this whole issue on Prop 10 on the ballot about Sharia law. You're 70 years old. You've lived here your entire life. You're a tech native Texan. Your observations about the situation of Sharia law in Texas right now.

[Sid Miller]

Well, I came out, this is like October, I guess, and I called on Governor Abbott and the president to declare the Muslim Brotherhood and CARE terrorist organizations.

[Steve Bannon]

Why did you do that so early?

[Sid Miller]

I could just see it. I mean, you see it up here in Dallas, this epic city or meadows, whatever they call it now. It's in. They come in here, they won't assimilate. They want to install Sharia law. It's not a religious freedom. This is a government takeover. I mean, look at France, in Germany, look at Sweden, and don't even talk about Britain.

[Steve Bannon]

The backbone of the state are ranchers and farmers. Where do they stand on this issue?

[Sid Miller]

They're with me. I mean, they, they. We got to stop this before we end up like London or some. Some place like that. They. They come in and just eventually take over. And you know, their goal is to, you know, have their representation in Congress, you know, have a majority there and then they can install Sharia.

[Steve Bannon]

We got a minute. Why in October did you come out and say they got to be designated terrorist organs? Even the president has. I mean he's done it in Jordan and, and, and in Syria, but he hasn't done it overall. Why did Sid Miller, the Agriculture Commission, Texas, why did you come out in October?

[Sid Miller]

I just see how dangerous this is. I mean it's, it's, it's real. I mean we need to take this seriously because everything they do is, it's, it's against our constitution, it's against our founding fathers, it's against our Judeo Christian values. I mean it's just, what they want to do is just destroy us.

[Steve Bannon]

And the ranchers and farmers are with us on this?

[Sid Miller]

I think so. Oh yeah.

[Steve Bannon]

Proposition 10 to prohibit Shreya law in Texas. You support?

[Sid Miller]

It'll pass with 95 plus percent.

[Steve Bannon]

Sid, where do people go for social media to find out how you're doing as Air Corps commercial and where. What's your campaign site?

[Sid Miller]

So social media is Miller for Texas. F O R Miller for Texas. My website is SidMiller.com it's a real hard one to remember. Thank you, brother.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you. By the way, you gave a magnificent interview back in 2016 and you were the COVID bid to be the department the Secretary of Agriculture. I know the president thinks very highly of you, so thank you so much. Take a short commercial break. Janet Guardino, former FBI special agent and one of the top experts in the world and lives in Texas on this issue of Sharia law. Next in War room Texas. Back in a moment.

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As Texas goes, so goes the nation. As the nation goes, so goes the world. Are you prepared to fight for this state? Are you prepared to fight for your your country?

[Steve Bannon]

John Guandola joins us. A former FBI also military been training about folks in D.C. that's where I met him years ago on at the very beginning of all this I think 15, 20 years ago about shrill law in the Islamic invasion of the West. John we just had Sid Miller on who was who's agriculture commissioner and running again in a very tightly fought race. He came out in October and recommended to the president and the Abbott that the Muslim brotherhood and CARE in the state of Texas be designated terrorist organizations. Now how we get and he says because hey the ranchers and farmers here are talking about it all the time. One thing I think we've been able to do here from the time we had the first conference and the dinner and launched a war room. Texas has given people a permission structure to talk about this now. And people like Sid a couple of months getting far ahead of this and saying hey they gotta be designated terrorist organizations. What are your thoughts you feel? I can tell you we're inundated today not just in Texas of people that want to come on the show. People want to talk about this but all over the country, Arizona, Oklahoma, Arkansas, South Carolina. Mike Lindell came on the other day and said the first thing he would do in the governor's when he was elected governor as a Republican would be ban Sharia law in the state of Minnesota. He says it has to be done. And I might add that Mike Lindell, the first real poll that's come out in that primary, Mike Lindell is up one point over the speaker of the House, a female who's the speaker of the House, Republican speaker of the House in or the leading Republican in the House in Minnesota and she had like a 20 point lead on him at one time. Do you think we've actually provided a permission structure for people to start to talk about this? Because when I first met you in D.C. there was no permission structure to do that. In fact in the original war against terror with Bush and these guys, we could never actually say what the reality was of the Muslim Brotherhood and particularly this aspect of, of Islam about Sharia law, sir.

[John Guandolo]

So, yes, and thanks for having me on again, Steve. Yes, I do think it's interesting that so many people are speaking about this very openly and very frankly, which is, in one sense, as you mentioned, I think, you know, doing this for 25 years and seeing this, it's in one sense, I'm a little frustrated that 25, 2015, even 10 years ago, and even five years ago and even a few years ago, those of us who are out here speaking it, we've been threatened, we've been audited by the irs, we've been sued, all these things, and now it's being talked about. So, yes, I believe the leaders have an open door to speak much more frankly than even a year ago, even two years ago. And that's a good thing. I think focusing the effort first on the Muslim Brotherhood is a very good thing because they drive much of the structure. I think we need to understand that this is a war that's being waged by hostile foreign powers, using thousands of proxies in the United States to wage this war. And we're seeing that when you look across the United States, what's going on in Arizona, what's going on in Texas, what's going on in Minneapolis, what's going on in Michigan, what's going on, quite frankly, in North Carolina, what's going on in Atlanta, it's happening everywhere, and it has to be addressed. And certainly speaking about it is the first step.

[Steve Bannon]

Why does it seem like it's everywhere all at once? I mean, you know, and I can tell this is happening because not just the outpouring I've gotten, we're going to, you know, we've had a huge conference a day with grassroots leaders where over 100 showed up. They're fully dedicated to one proposition in March on the ballot, and that is to prohibit Sharia law in the state of Texas. But I've worked on grassroots and, you know, between Breitbart in President Trump's campaigns and then War Room, you know, we've always been a platform for the grassroots voices. I've never seen a galvanizing issue come together so quickly about this. But I'm seeing it in other states, too. People are coming all the time saying, we have to do this in North Carolina, we have to do this in Oklahoma, we have to do it. Particularly in Arizona, people are coming. Why does it seem like all of a sudden this was right below the surface and people just need a permission structure? To talk about it, because when you say it's a war, what are the Muslim Brotherhood and the people trying to spread Sharia law, why have they chosen this minute or these last couple of years to really go full force into? Because when I knew you, a lot of it was about infiltration into the federal government, infiltration into the intelligence services, infiltration into law enforcement. And I tell people, when I was in the White House for that year in 2017, from the time I took over the Trump campaign in 16 to 17, the one thing I had the biggest epic fail on, where we succeeded in so many things, Paris accord, you know, getting at so many things and turning things around in the economic plan. I had literally a face plant when I tried to drive the designation of the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. The entire apparatus, particularly the State Department, the Pentagon, was terrible. The intelligence services were worse. Oh, these guys just provide hospitals and schools, and they're really our allies throughout the world. I'm sitting there going, what are you talking about? But you couldn't make any traction at all. Why is it that it looks like across the nation, in the states themselves, we're seeing this, really, this drive of the Muslim Brotherhood and these foreign powers and their allies to bring Sharia in some sort of mass basis into the states of the United States.

[John Guandolo]

So this is a. I mean, this is the question. So it might be helpful for your audience to lay a couple markers on the ground. First of all, everything they do is about Sharia, the global Islamic movement. It's the stated purpose of Islam is to impose Allah's divine law, Sharia, on the earth. That's it. But the modus operandi of these movements, the Muslim Brotherhood being the leading movement, but in the United States, we also have the Hezbollah, Iranian elements, and a very large movement there, the Deobandis, Tablighi, Jamaat, Jamaati Islami, these other elements. The thing that I'm very concerned about is there are a lot of people talking about, we need to ban Sharia, we need to ban the Muslim Brotherhood. But if you talk to them and say, I want you to explain to me what Sharia is and how do they use it in this war to undermine what we're doing? You get about five or 10 seconds, and that's the end of the understanding. This is a war that's primarily being fought in the information battle space. So we still have people, and it's a good thing that they're, you know, now they're starting to say, you know, the problem is Sharia And Sharia is a foundation of Islam. So the problem is Islam, right? Yeah. So saying that 25, 20, 15 years ago was not a popular thing, but now, as the enemy is at literally their final stage of the war, they're not necessarily concerned that Americans are catching on in Sharia and in Islam. You'll know everything about Sharia when you're under it. That's their perspective. And you're not allowed to talk about it. And they don't talk about it in truthful ways until they're in their final stages. And when you hear Muslims as they are in the United States speaking much more frankly about what jihad is, what Sharia is, and what their true intentions are, it means they believe it's game over. Now, I don't necessarily believe that. I don't believe that. But we have to understand, and they're in the end game. And just now, Americans and our leaders are waking up that, hey, this might be a problem because for 30 years from the Clinton administration forward, we were told that Islam, true Islam, some mystical version of Islam, not taught anywhere on the planet, is really good. But this radical perversion of Islam that Al Qaeda and Boko Haram teach and is taught, by the way, in every Islamic school on the planet because it's a capital crime for Muslims to teach Muslims anything about Islam that's not actually true. So our understanding of this is still at a very, in my opinion, a very shallow depth. And actually the citizens who have been trained or taken a deeper dive understand it at a much deeper level than the leadership of the state and federal governments around the United States. And that's the danger. I'll just share this quick story, full stop.

[Steve Bannon]

Give me an example. I need to know that because people are saying, hey, I'm reading the books. I'm going online to John's. What John puts out, I'm teaching myself. I want to go. Part of the thing in the conference today, one was workshops on what we're doing, on what the grassroots are doing. Lead to the 3rd of March. The whole half of, at the end of it was seminars actually sit there and go, you need to really understand this. You really understand the depth. Why do you say citizens right now are better trained than leaders at the state or federal level? That would come as pretty big shock to folks.

[John Guandolo]

Out of necessity, because they've recognized their leaders aren't doing it. I can tell you over the last 20 plus years of actually training FBI, CIA, DHS, local and state law enforcement, 100% of them, 100% over the years. At the end of the training, I asked two questions. Did you know this information? So this is about Sharia, about the Muslim Brotherhood network and how they actually operate. Did you know this information before you came in? No. 100% have said no, we did not know this. And this includes FBI, Joint Terrorism Task Force agents and officers. It includes dhs. Name it. But when I asked the second question, do you believe this is critical to protecting your community? 100% say yes. Whereas when we go in and teach citizens 10 years ago, five years ago, and today, and today, it's even much more. So they walk in with at least a general understanding of these movements and that they are operating in their community. And they even know some of the organizations. Islamic Society in North America, Muslim American Society, care, Muslim Student Associations, Islamic Circle in North America. And they understand they're hostile. And that's the difference is the way this war works. You just said it. When you have jihadis advising presidents, governors, state legislators, pastors, chambers of commerce how to defeat jihadis, it's no wonder that the leadership remains clueless, just staggeringly ignorant of the Islamic threat of Sharia, of the Muslim Brotherhood and the other movements and the networks, because that's the intentional target of the information operation from the enemy's perspective. So we've been looking. We have this narrative that there are these competing versions of Islam, and this was true under Bush. What America needs to do is get the good Muslims to help us understand the bad Muslims. Except there's only one Islam. There's one Sharia, and that's it. So are there Muslims who don't want to adhere to Sharia and wage jihad? Yes, but what they believe doesn't constitute a different version of Islam. They're just outliers. And according to Sharia, they're apostates and they should be killed. And so we can't base national security decisions, foreign policy, and domestic counterterrorism strategy based on someone who calls themselves a Muslim number one and doesn't follow Sharia number two. In fact, 100% of the people we're leaning on to get advice from in DHS, FBI, are general officers in the military, etc. Are Muslim Brotherhood. They're hostile. They're jihadis in suits, claiming to be nice people and presenting a very friendly image, when in fact they're not. And that's why I say this is much more a counterintelligence, espionage, and subversive movement, because they're still doing it. They're in this administration, administration doing it. And it creates havoc because you have what appears to be competing versions of Islam. And you get people who are in national security positions saying, well, you know, what Saudi Arabia does is different from what Jordan does is different. What Indonesia does is that it's all based on Sharia. And so just because they don't advance Sharia at the same level, well, that's part of jihad. You can only go as far and as fast as you're able to do without losing too many members of the Islamic community who don't get it. And so there's a requirement to educate the Muslim population. And you can't go so fast in advancing the jihad that you expose your hand to the non Muslims on what you're actually doing. And a great, you know, there are so many examples of this, but we have to understand that you have to understand based on Sharia, that's how they make their decisions. It's a blueprint for how they wage war. And deception is at the center of all of this. And so when you have there is, you know, just like we have talked about before on your show, Steve, Mr. Trump invited a Hezbollah guy to his first to this past inauguration. And I was able to inform some people who had an inroad to the administration to kick that guy out, Imam Husseini. And then they were going to replace him with another guy who I then provided information on who was also a bad guy at the national level. There is not one Muslim working at that level who's not hostile. Not one. And we can go down the list by name. We did it before when people were like, well, we're going to bring this guy as Oz Sultan into the first Trump administration. And I was able to demonstrate he's a jihadi and Mike Flynn walked him out of the building. But there is, you're not at that level. You're not going to get somebody who's not hostile. And this is the problem is we keep looking for the good ones. And at that level, the information campaign and the information battle is so strong that they make sure that the target is the leadership. The higher up in the chain, the more they're going to make sure that information is not getting to them. Whereas the people down at the ground level are still doing their due diligence and getting to them. And by the way, I just want to say this, the Hizbollah guy that got invited to the Trump inauguration this past one, who was fired for bringing that guy in? Nobody. How was the vetting process changed in this administration? It wasn't. And so long as we Keep making these mistakes and they keep know that the enemy knows where those open doors are, where the counterintelligence failures are. They're walking right in. And they do it by building relations. I mean, you got Jared Kushner chastising people like me for going after Qatar and Turkey and Saudi Arabia and how wonderful they are. So he's literally carrying the water for these hostile jihadi states who are at the front end of the global Islamic movement. That's because he's a target of these hostile information operations.

[Steve Bannon]

John, we gotta bounce, but I need people to go to your site. You're working on a book that I think is going to be a major magnum opus about this entire area. But you've got tons of information up on your site. Training courses, social media, where do people go?

[John Guandolo]

Johnguandolo.com and yes, the book, the Campaign Plan for Victory will be the third in that trilogy. Raising a Jihadi Generation, Islam's Deception, the Truth About Sharia. Now the campaign Plan for Victory, which is a, literally a blueprint for how to win the war.

[Steve Bannon]

Look forward to seeing that social media. Where do they go, John?

[John Guandolo]

Jayguandolo54271 but if you just search Jay Guandola, you'll find me on on X.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you, brother. Appreciate it. Look forward to having you back on and maybe one day in studio.

[John Guandolo]

Thank you.

[Steve Bannon]

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