
WarRoom Battleground EP 947: Saving Texas And The Rest Of The Republic With Doc Chambers ...
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Steve Bannon
We're talking about Sharia law. I mean, this is not really relevant to this committee and what's going on in America today. There's so much we could be dealing with concerning the Constitution and protecting America. White Christian nationalist ideology has been put forward. One of the gentlemen here said something about. What is it.
Doc Pete Chambers
Certain might have been you, Mr. Spencer.
Steve Bannon
Something that the group put forward as their plan for the future. Some publication or some ideology. Did you mention that? I don't know. You might be referring to the explanatory memorandum, which is. I didn't mention. But it's a captured internal document of the Muslim Brotherhood detailing its program for the United States, where it says, the brothers must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying Western civilization from within and sabotaging its miserable house by their own hands, in the hands of the believers, so that Allah's religion is victorious over other religions. Right. That's pretty much what suggests that. Just saying. We got other. Sir, I've got the floor. Doesn't make that. Sir. Sir, I've got the floor. You're not Pam Bondi. Sorry, I say I've got the floor. You're not Pam Bondi. That's what I was getting at. And what you're talking about sounds like a Middle Eastern version of Project 2025, another type of manifesto to take over and do all these things and to control our government and to turn it around on its head.
Doc Pete Chambers
If you really want to deal with the major issues of immigration with people opting to take benefits rather than working for a living, if you want to deal with that, then you're going to have to do some things which are unpopular and show some courage. And has this government done that? No, I think they. I don't know whether. I don't know whether it's just the apparatus that hasn't allowed Kiir to do it, or he's maybe too nice. He's a nice. I mean, I know Keir. He's a nice man. I like him. But it's a tough job and I think you have to do some difficult things with the UK to get it back on track. Because at the moment, I don't think the economy's any good. You can't afford. You can't have an economy with 9 million people on benefits and huge levels of immigrants coming in. I mean, the UK is being colonized. It's costing too much money. It will cause. It'll cause the UK has been colonized by immigrants, really, isn't it I mean, the population of the UK was 58 million in 2020. No, it's 70 million. That's 12 million people. You met recently with Nigel Faroz, didn't you? I did. Do you think that they would be a kind of a good government if they were to win the next election? I think Nigel is an intelligent man and I think he's got good intentions. But in a way, you could say exactly the same about Kia when Kier came in. I think it needs somebody who's prepared to be unpopular for a period of time. To get the big issue sorted out would be my view.
Steve Bannon
I always tell people the day the Latino, African American, Asian and other communities realize that they are.
Doc Pete Chambers
That they share the same oppressor is the day we start winning. Because we are the majority in this country now.
Steve Bannon
We are wearing. We have the ability to take over this country and to do what is.
Doc Pete Chambers
Needed for everyone and to make things fair. But the problem is our communities are divided. They're completely divided. What percentage of US Muslims believe that Sharia law should be implemented in the United States?
Steve Bannon
So I'm not aware of survey data on that specific question.
Doc Pete Chambers
However, I can tell you it's 39%. 39% of Muslims in the United States want Sharia law implemented in the next 20 years. Do you know what percentage of Muslims in the United States support the formation of a Muslim political party?
Steve Bannon
Again, I'm not familiar with survey data on that particular question.
Doc Pete Chambers
Number is 46%. Do a couple more. Do you know what percentage of Muslims in the United States support making it illegal to show a picture of the cartoon or cartoon of the Prophet Muhammad?
Steve Bannon
So, as with the other questions, a lot depends on the wording and the sample. And I would want to see this.
Doc Pete Chambers
50%. That's a lot. Let's do one more. Do you know what percentage of Muslims in the United States believe that Islam should be declared as our national religion?
Steve Bannon
Once again, I would want to look at the methodology of the survey. To question 33%.
Doc Pete Chambers
This is from a survey conducted by the Heritage foundation and 2024 in September of 2024. It was published on October 6, 2024. I got two more for you. Do you know what percentage of American Muslims believe that Israel does not have a right to exist as a Jewish homeland?
Steve Bannon
I don't know that one either.
Doc Pete Chambers
But if it's from a survey by the Heritage Foundation, 43%. You're happy. You know, you can declare that statistics you don't like aren't true, but that's. That's not how I'm going to operate here.
Steve Bannon
The election of somebody like Mamdani, it is a game changer. We need somebody like Mamdani to be.
Doc Pete Chambers
The mayor of New York. And that is a victory for the Ummah. I'm jumping the gun here, but this is one of the narrow minded need to break here. And Guy tried not once, not twice.
Steve Bannon
Eight times to shut our project down.
Doc Pete Chambers
I don't want to go into all the details because of time.
Steve Bannon
He failed miserably at every single level.
Doc Pete Chambers
And the project is still going full steam ahead.
Steve Bannon
Our biggest weakness is our percentage in this country.
Doc Pete Chambers
We are very disadvantaged. By the way, this is only in this country. Sweden, 10% Muslim.
Steve Bannon
Oslo.
Doc Pete Chambers
Norway, 10% Muslim. Oslo, of all places, Vienna. The Ottoman Turks tried 200 years, they couldn't do anything. Vienna is 10% Muslim. Mashallah, Tabarakallah, 10% Muslim.
Steve Bannon
England, London, it is estimated 20%.
Doc Pete Chambers
So you can look at a foreign terrorist organization or a transnational criminal organization, you can give them that moniker, you can write a strongly worded letter and that's good. That's a start. But the authorities come through the commander in chief of the state of Texas and that's the governor and that has to come directly from that office. The Attorney general, God bless him, he can't write those orders. And it has to come from that commander in chief. So guys like me that watched it happen, those lily pads, that's what we call them, those lily pads. Epic City now going to be called the Meadows. It sounds a little bit like Laura Ingalls on A Little House on the Prairie. Right? They're changing the names. They're, they're, they're conducting the same stuff they did on the border, which is a whack, a mole. Right? So we chase them down and, and they move and they change and they morph. But in the meantime, we've got 72% more mosques. We got two that I know about, Sharia, law courts. And as the good attorney General said, you cannot have a constitution underneath. This one right here, this is the Texas Constitution, my 1930s copy of it. Right. So there it is. We can't do that. And it's not authorized. The power is inherent in the people. Article one, section two of the Bill of Rights. It's the people, the winter soldiers that are that are pushing this subject. And that is why Abbott is on his heels right now.
Steve Bannon
Islamic jihadis are plotting against you. Why in the hell you think they're in Houston? In the north of Dallas. They are working together to overthrow Western civilization. Sharia compounds which are areas governed by religious rules. We know who you are, we know what you are, and we know what you're trying to accomplish. And it is not going to happen. In the jewel of the crown of the union of this republic, we purge any attempt to impose Sharia law in Texas. They are not coming. They are already here. You are not here properly and you are going to leave. On 3 March March, Sharia law goes on the ballot in the state of Texas. The United States Constitution and Sharia are.
Doc Pete Chambers
Fundamentally at odds with one another.
Steve Bannon
We're going to tell them, take your Sharia law and shove it.
Doc Pete Chambers
Islam will never dominate the United States, and by the grace of God, it will not dominate Texas.
Steve Bannon
As Texas goes, so goes the nation. As the nation goes, so goes the world. Are you prepared to fight for this state? Are you prepared to fight for your country? War room, Texas.
Doc Pete Chambers
Your host, Stephen K. Bannon starts right now.
Steve Bannon
It's Thursday, the 12th of February, in the year of our Lord 2026. Thank you. I'm honored to be joined here by an individual that's jumped into the fray. And as you saw that, we ended with Doc Chambers. Doc, thank you so much for coming here in studio today. Honored to have you in here.
Doc Pete Chambers
Great to be here.
Steve Bannon
We want to spend the entire hour with you here because you have taken a bold move to step in and run for governor. So tell people. First off, I want to get into a lot of the details and particularly saw we had a real collection there. You had everything from Steve Cohen, who's I think a Jewish member of the House, Democrat, mocking Robert Spencer. Robert's also Jewish, one of the top experts in the world in Sharia. Like, oh, Sharia law is just like Project 2025. You had one of the wealthiest men in England saying that England's been colonized and he doesn't know what can be done about it. You had the great Brandon Gill really eviscerating a witness who was trying to fake like he didn't know how unpopular Sharia law is. But I want to start first. You're running for governor, right? That is a huge executive job. I mean, what Texas has got the eighth largest economy in the world.
Doc Pete Chambers
Eighth in the world.
Steve Bannon
Eighth in the World. You're 31 million people, I think now. And eventually you're going to overtake California, we call it. And I say this as a Virginian, you're the jewel and the crown of the union, right? And as goes Texas, so goes the world.
Doc Pete Chambers
The nation.
Steve Bannon
Nation. And they Go. Well, so talk to me about you. Why? What is the burning passion that you have that you feel that you need to be governor?
Doc Pete Chambers
Turn this around. Yeah, I did not have a burning passion when this kicked off. I did not. I was conducting counter human trafficking work, working with a mutual friend on election integrity down in Central Texas. When I left the Texas National Guard, last eight years of my life, the last few on the border, I realized and I saw behind the curtain of what was really happening. This isn't about throwing casting stones or mud or anything like that. It's just reality versus optics. However, was not intending to run for any office other than maybe sheriff.
Steve Bannon
Hold on. Tell me about that. What. What is. What was on the border, right? What was reality and what was what was optimal?
Doc Pete Chambers
Absolutely.
Steve Bannon
That turned you so much off and said, hey, I gotta. I gotta. I gotta get involved here.
Doc Pete Chambers
So as a senior Green Beret officer, there are two Green Beret units in the state of Texas, and it's the National Guard system. My job was a flight surgeon and special operations. Flight surgeon and Green Beret. Never, never take off that beret, that tab. But so you can smell. You can smell color revolutions. You can see these things. We've been down range. I left Afghanistan 2014, 2015, came back to Texas thinking that we could protect our border from transnational criminal organizations on the Rio Grande, 1254 miles of border. And what I saw was a half measure, right? It's all or none when you receive information from your team as a commander. When I did, the scouts were out. Hey, sir, we've got T72s in the open. Tanks, right? You get a salute. Report size, activity, location. So we're giving that information to the governor's staff. We're passing it up the chain. And these are things that are coming across 120 countries that I recall at the time when 12,500 people came across a week. A week. We had 17,000 Haitians show up in 24 hours. In Del Rio, we had 12,500.
Steve Bannon
Where they falsely said that the. That I think the Texas Rangers were the Texas Rangers that were on the horses trying to. Border patrol.
Doc Pete Chambers
Yes, sir, Border patrol were trying.
Steve Bannon
We're trying to.
Doc Pete Chambers
That was about 400 yards from me.
Steve Bannon
And they said, oh, they're whipping these people. It's horrible. Just lies.
Doc Pete Chambers
I know it was a split rain.
Steve Bannon
Tell people about that human way, because this is what we're dealing with today.
Doc Pete Chambers
I want you to feel it. You got to feel this. Okay? Feel this as a soldier, just to understand in the day before that, 17,000 Haitians showed up. Michael Yan called me from the Darien Gap and said, you got like this many buses coming, equivalent to tens of thousands of people. So that's a friend of mine, that's a Green Beret, retired journalist.
Steve Bannon
He's one of the contributors to the War Room.
Doc Pete Chambers
Contributor. He's a great man.
Steve Bannon
He's a great man.
Doc Pete Chambers
Good friend. And he calls me and says this. Now that's the guy that I get information from. So when my command says, where are you getting this from? Is this vetted source? Well, it's Michael yawn. But sure enough, they showed up anyway. Texas National Guard commanders tell me, go down there, take 40 guys with you and see if you can hold them off overnight. We get down, there's about 700 people that showed up at the first wave. Well, we can hold off 700. There's only four of us. We got. We can do it. Border patrol was there with their horses. I was there with a dog. We had some teams down there, but by morning, by morning's light, there were 17,000. You could just see them coming all around us every time. 17,000, 17,000. We rounded them up, got him under the bridge. Mr. Mayorkas came out.
Steve Bannon
That's almost two combat divisions.
Doc Pete Chambers
That's a lot. That's a lot. And 400, if people recall at the low water crossing there in Del Rio, Stern and Biterman administration at the low Water Crossing, 400 state DPS trucks showed up. And that really helped us because we needed it. But it was an impressive show of force. Right? And that's what, when you, when people see that, you know, that's, that's a good optic to have. Now here's, here's the reality. We on the ground were sweating. We were fighting. We were trying to contain them. We were looking for the needle in a stack of needles. The bad ones that want to do bad things, we're looking for counter human, the bad hombres. As soon as we got him under the bridge and we got everything localized, then Mr. Mayorkas, he decides he's going to say, we're going to put them on planes and send them all back to Haiti. Not what happened. And this is when I got my first glimpse of my commander in chief in the state of Texas is not. It's not helping the situation. And that's disheartening because when you're a guy that came, you know, I came back to Texas in 2015 when he became governor, and that was my commander in chief. I worked directly for him during The COVID mission. I was in his, on his staff at that time as a liaison. But I trusted that he would do the right thing. So when you see the optics of it, the optics are, well, we're going to send them back to Haiti. Well, they didn't send him back to Haiti.
Steve Bannon
My Yorkers was lying at the time, correct?
Doc Pete Chambers
He was always lying, right? Yeah, I've seen it, you know, a couple other times. And then, and he, you know, he's, he's a liar. Just to call it that. I'm going to keep it focused on the story. So as we move these people under the bridge now, we've got a situation where we've got to get them somewhere. We were thinking we're going to put them on an air force plane and send them back down to Haiti. It didn't happen. Then Governor Abbott moves him into the interior of the nation and he talks about it on his website. And he said, I sent hundreds of thousands into Chicago or to here or there, wherever, Martha's Vineyard. It was a tongue in cheek maneuver. It's great to gain populace, you know, movement, if you will, behind him to say, good job, gunner. But those things to me are aiding embedding and invasion.
Steve Bannon
That wasn't. They're, they're, they're, they haven't been vetted. Right. And they, and they, and they got temporary status still last time. So you saw it that, hey, he just passing the problem on to somebody else. Every town's a border town, every state's a border state. We have to take a stand and we have to take it here in Texas.
Doc Pete Chambers
Absolutely. And we have the ability to do it.
Steve Bannon
What do you mean by that?
Doc Pete Chambers
We have the 30th largest army in the world. If you took the state guard, that's the state's militia. Sixteen states have them. Texas has one, the state Guard, the National Guard, the Air Guard, the dps, Department of Public Safety and the Texas Rangers. It's the 30th largest army in the world. So we have the abilities to do it. Here's the problem. Strongly worded letters. I said it on the little spot that you played. Strongly worded letters. Okay. And these are things that are used quite regularly that people will back down from, but barbarians there is no negotiating with. You cannot negotiate on a strongly worded letter. So when I saw that, and I'm looking at it now, I have to put it in my mindset of as an officer, your foreign military, you definitely understand this. Without authorities, I can do nothing.
Steve Bannon
Right.
Doc Pete Chambers
Right. So the authorities Come down from your commander in chief. You then get passed on the chain of command all the way down to you. And then there's your authorities. Then they build out the rules of engagement, Right? And that was another one we didn't like. If the cartel shows up down on the border and they did, and if they start shooting at you and they did, your job is to get in your trucks and drive away. That was our rules of engagement in Texas. William Barrett Travis, the guy that wrote the letter from The Alamo on 24th February, 1836, would be rolling over in his grave. Right? So for me, those are, those are sticky.
Steve Bannon
Why do you think the governor did that?
Doc Pete Chambers
You want an optic, but you don't want an incident.
Steve Bannon
And without an incident, without something, you're not going to be able to stop this right optics is not, was not going to stop the human wave that was coming through.
Doc Pete Chambers
I'm going to say something that's going to make people chill here in a second. And this is. I'm going to use the rated G version. All right, so when we gave a briefing four years ago, five years ago, to the staff, not to the governor himself, to the staff to include DPS and other other folks at federal agencies as well, my sergeant major, who's in this part of the world we call a Kunas, he's a Cajun, right? You have to excuse my French, but that's what they call it. All right, so he comes in. My sergeant major, this is a man that's been through 20 years of war and understands counterterrorism, understands cross border operations, understands this. And I'm there and I got it back. His play. And he says, without us bringing you and putting cartel carcasses on this table right here, this will not stop. Right. Because they were transported to a briefing, to a briefing.
Steve Bannon
So people at the highest levels, they knew exactly what the reality.
Doc Pete Chambers
They shivered. And it was gasp for me. I said, yeah, what he said. But I would have said a little differently, however, you know, love the passion. But Howard, that's the point. The cartels made hundreds of millions of dollars. I'm talking about just once. Cartel del Noreste, the Northeast cartel, they made $400 million one month in transporting people across that river. 120 countries, some of them being with Hezbollah, some of them being with Hamas that were documented through Venezuela. Now do we have a cap on Venezuela right now? We may, we may. But we still have that network that had been coming in. Now is it still coming now? No. Trump put a tourniquet on the border. And thank God.
Steve Bannon
So at the time this is happening, you're sitting there going, hey, we're just playing games here. This is all. We're not really defending Texas and we're not defending the country. So how does that lead, how does that kernel or that seed in your, in what you're doing lead to the evolution that you actually take the jump and go in and kind of a David and Goliath situation politically against a guy that's raised $100 million and has every corporate interest.
Doc Pete Chambers
Yes.
Steve Bannon
In back of him. What was that defining.
Doc Pete Chambers
Here's the context too, because I got to add this and to understand why people came to me to run for governor, that, to ask me to do this, I would never have thought of it on my own. But the last part of that mission, Operation Lone Star that I was on, it's still going on right now. As the, as the flight surgeon that was responsible for 3,000 soldiers on the border's health and well being. And I had multiple PAs working for me. It was my job when the mandates came, to give informed consents. And I did. And nobody took the shot.
Steve Bannon
The vaccine mandates.
Doc Pete Chambers
Yes, sir. Now, I testified in Seals vs. Lloyd Austin when the senator from Good. Senator from Wisconsin, Ron Johnson came to me and said, would you be one of my four whistleblowers in the dod? Why there were only four, I don't know. Courage is a commodity. So then you look at that and I say, well, what am I going to do? My career is on the line, but I've got to do informed consents. Now they sent a two star general down because I kept sending the shot teams away saying, we're not giving them to him. Now I've got, you know, these kids looking at me saying, please, sir, don't let us. They read my informed consent. I gave them the briefing. This is going to kill you. If you don't need it, why would you take it? Right? You can use ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. I knew it then. I came from Africa. There was no no Covid in Africa. And they took that out of my inventory. They said, you can't carry these medications anymore. All right, well, we'll figure a way around it. We can go down to pharmacy in Mexico.
Steve Bannon
Hell, did that, did that trigger something when you knew having what happened was happening in Africa when they took that out?
Doc Pete Chambers
Oh, it triggered it, yes. Yes.
Steve Bannon
If you knew the fix was in.
Doc Pete Chambers
I didn't understand the fullness of it. I wrote A briefing it's the 20th of 2020. A briefing on it. And I briefed the state Department of Health Services and they told never say the word hydroxychloroquine again. You know why? This is hilarious. They're number two in state of Texas Department of Health Services. She said. I said, well, my ma'.
Steve Bannon
Am.
Doc Pete Chambers
She goes, because Trump said it. And I said, well, Trump not a doctor. She said, I'm telling you right now, this is. You think I. I'm writing a book here. Unbelievable, the ridiculousness. So I said, ma', am, he's not a doctor. I respect the man. I am. I've used it for years on troops for malaria, prophylaxis, etc. I've seen people take ivermectin I've given to cattle, but I've also given it to human beings and my horse because, you know, the horse pay story. She said, we're just not saying it because we need to focus on vaccines, we need to focus on bed space, we need to focus on ventilators, remdesivir, boom, boom, boom. So now that's when I really went, whoa, what's going on? So back to the border. Two star general comes down. Love me. I love him. However, Doc, you need to get with the program. I said, get with the program. He goes, he gave you that speech? Oh, yeah, yeah, I'm going to do it. In his V, almost like an Alex Jones said, doc, need to get on. Get with the program. It ain't about the science, it's about the policy. I said, well, sir, that doesn't make a lick of sense. I said, because here's the numbers. I got the whiteboard up this. How many are sick? They've already taken the shots. These are the ones that are out there on the border. I got to keep operations going. We're pulling people off every time they get, they get sick and they're spending 10 days in quarantine. I said, I got an operation run for 1200 miles, right? This is, this is getting bigger because we started with 600 troops. We're up to 6,000 at this point. We went to 10. And he says, well, you just got to quit doing informed consents.
Steve Bannon
You got to quit doing informed.
Doc Pete Chambers
And then he wrote it and sent it to me in an email which ended up as a, an exhibit in a court case. Yes, unfortunately. So, you know, this is, this is the world.
Steve Bannon
Was there any logic in back of. Besides the fact that they just wanted a program that was anti. Any medical logic?
Doc Pete Chambers
The same negative. No, no, no. There was There was no logic. So your career's on the line, Doc. And I said, well, sir, I've been shot at and blown up in a truck taking care of guys downrange. The career is the last thing I'm gonna think about. And I had, you know, plenty of years and well over 20. And so what I did was I went ahead and retired and then went on Alex Jones show and then exposed a lot more. Now, that being said, that opened it up to where now there are. People are saying, all right, this guy's got some cojones, and he'll stand in the gap against the federal government as lieutenant colonel. What will he do if he's. If the state needs it? That's what their. That was.
Steve Bannon
And that's when people started approaching affirmative.
Doc Pete Chambers
And I'm. Then I got out and went into.
Steve Bannon
You're never in a million years think.
Doc Pete Chambers
Hey, no, there's no way you're not a.
Steve Bannon
Not Apollo.
Doc Pete Chambers
No, no, no, no. So I'm Peter. Yeah, it's very different. Which. Yeah. Which would put you in, you know. Yeah. But in combat, sometimes leaders got to draw fire. Sometimes they do. Sometimes we. We might draw fire for a maneuver element or something. But in this case, when this. These group. This group came to me and they said, would you do this, Doc? And there's a campfire and it's on Pentecostal last year. And I said, nope. And then I said, but I'll pray about it. And I went off and I said, I'll give you a week. And I came back in a week. And there was. Said, okay, well, I'm going to look at it. I'm going to feasibility study this thing. Can we do this?
Steve Bannon
What was it in the week of.
Doc Pete Chambers
Prayer that final night? It was, lord, please say no. I'm begging you, please, because I don't want to do this. I don't. I will. I will find somebody. I helped Allen west when he ran. I'm like, I'll find somebody to do this. It was quiet, it was crickets, right? But then it was picked up this book right here and picked up Ezekiel, chapter 33, the Watchman. And it said, if you're a watchman, it's on your head if you don't sound the trumpet. And if you sound the trumpet to your command or to. To the people, and they don't adhere or they don't listen, it's on their head. Now, at that point, I've got to go with my conviction of what I believe and understand that sometimes your path gets chosen not by you, but by your prayers, the answers to your prayers. And that's just Pete Chambers, as you came up.
Steve Bannon
We're going to jump for a break and come back real quickly. How long after your prayer, your week of prayer, did you make a decision? I'm going to step in here.
Doc Pete Chambers
It took about two weeks of calling and speaking to some serious people. General Flynn Allen west, what do you think? What do you think? Can we do this? Absolutely.
Steve Bannon
And what General Flynn Allen west said.
Doc Pete Chambers
General, General Flynn was just a text and he said, I'm 100% in. And he said an endorsement and all that. I don't take endorsements from politicians, but I will from General Flynn. He's not a politician, but he's, he's a leader. So.
Steve Bannon
Okay, we're going to take a. We're going to take a short commercial break. We're going to be back in the warm for the second part of this in just a moment.
Doc Pete Chambers
What makes a man to wonder? What makes a man to roam? What makes a manly bed and born and turn his back on hold.
Steve Bannon
Right away.
Doc Pete Chambers
Ride away, Ride away.
Steve Bannon
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Doc Pete Chambers
If this, again, Steve, if this doesn't get solved in the ballot box, this.
Steve Bannon
Will get solved in a very kinetic way because I don't think Americans are going to accept being colonized by Islamic.
Doc Pete Chambers
By an Islamic paradigm.
Steve Bannon
That's happened before. The Reconquista happened in Spain. It took a couple hundred years. It will not take a couple hundred.
Doc Pete Chambers
Years this time just to change it back.
Steve Bannon
Okay. Welcome back. I'm with Doc Chambers, who's running for governor. We started the show with one of the wealthiest men in England. In fact, I think he owns Manchester United, one of the big soccer clubs over there, saying that Britain had been colonized. Erik Prince did not hear that this morning. He said, hey, this colonization of Texas and the United States of America is not going to go on. You were one of the first. You've been at the forefront of this issue. Talk to me about your, your thoughts about Prop 10 Sharia law. And the New York Times now is saying it's the number one. It's the number one issue, but they're saying it's a bunch of conspiracy theorists that are just blowing this way out of proportion.
Doc Pete Chambers
Not at all. Not all. This is the ultimate goal here, is a caliphate. And in the caliphate, there are, there are several portions of it. And if you're not part of that Sharia system, I'm just going to cut to the chase. There is a verse, the verse of the sword. And the verse of the sword says, if you are in the infidel, a cafe here, you're an infidel. You are to be done away with or you pay taxes, live underneath their system. Now, that's the, that's the book of the war, they call that. So that's the, that's the part we're in. It's going to always, always lead. And then if I place this using my green Bray cap, on the unconventional warfare scale of infiltration and all the things that have taken place, setting up.
Steve Bannon
A domicile, you Think there's been infiltration.
Doc Pete Chambers
In the state of Texas.
Steve Bannon
Why do you say that?
Doc Pete Chambers
Because we were watching it. There's no assimilation taking place. We look at how many different cultures come into this country. They assimilate, right. They assimilate to this culture. And they, and they, and they still maintain, you know, let's say, you know, Chinatown in New York.
Steve Bannon
Right.
Doc Pete Chambers
They still maintain that ability. Flavor of their flavor, but they assimilate to this culture and their kids come to school and we don't, we don't assimilate to them. They assimilate to this culture. That's what, that's what keeps us going and proud to be American and then to come in with some kind of other legal system. I don't wouldn't call it a legal system, but some other Sharia system of submission, of submission. Yeah. When we talk about oppression, that's a key there of submission. And like I said, and we've seen it when Governor Abbott declares and says that we outlawed it in Texas. He did not.
Steve Bannon
Is he doing that by the way you started in August is his declaring the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist organization and characteristics organization and then saying he's passed laws that ban Sharia law and he's done something on Epic City which argue. Well, he didn't really shut down those actions he's been taking. Is that in response to you coming from the right and saying. And a big buildup of people saying that. Do you think it's in reaction. I've heard that. And you think he's doing a good enough job and what. Why would you be better at doing that?
Doc Pete Chambers
Why would I be better? Well, he's had 11 years. We've talked about taxes, we've talked about Sharia law, we've talked about a lot of things. And when somebody asks me and says what is it that you're going to do different? Well, I won't lie to you for 11 years. I'm just going to cut to the chase now. I'm a term limit guy, so it wouldn't be that long. But I want you. You cannot promise things that you cannot deliver. You just don't do that in this business.
Steve Bannon
You've seen the lies as you've talked about that got you inspired. Doing this on the border and with the vaccines and the form cassette. You saw what you call the optics versus the reality. Are there other things you think he's lying about? The Sharia law aspect of it? Purposely misleading the public?
Doc Pete Chambers
Whether it's purposeful? I'd have to. That would have to, you know, the intent would be something you have to talk to in person to find. But. But it is obfuscating truth. And either, you know, there's only two kinds of sin in this world. Commission and omission. If it's omission right now, then I think you're smarter than that, sir. And you can. You can come to the forefront and say this isn't actually outlawing Sharia law because it's the word. Sharia is not in the law. Right. There are certain practices that are not allowed. Now, you're right. You can't stone people. We got it. Can't stone them to death. Thanks. But. But the point of it is, is that. And you've had Brian Harrison on numerous times. He talks about it.
Steve Bannon
He.
Doc Pete Chambers
He's. He's showing it from within the legislature. And thank God he's there. It is down there how corrupt it is.
Steve Bannon
I want to go to two other things since we've only got so much time. You've been at the forefront of this issue of Sharia law. You're a big backer of Proposition 10. You've also been one of the first people on Colony Ridge, and you're also one of the leaders in these HB1. And I will tell you that right below the surface issues like H1B visa. Right. Right. As we gave permission structure on Sharia law. And now it's. Even the New York Times is saying it's the number one issue in the Republican primary. Right below that is H1B visas and coll Colony Ridge, which they had a settlement today from the federal government, but they still have illegal aliens living down there. And I don't think anyone's been held accountable. Talk about why you were at the forefront of both of those.
Doc Pete Chambers
Sure. Yeah. Well, Colony Ridge, 2023. I got out of the Texas National Guard 2022. In 2023, Michael Yawn, our friend Green Beret correspondent, and Ann Vanderstill showed up in Texas and said they need somebody to go with them. And while we went down the border and it was called Operation Burning Edge, that's what they did. That was the exposure. And during that operation, we got chopper and we went across Colony ridge, Liberty County, 40 square miles, just north of Houston, about 40 minutes north, just south of Cleveland, Texas. And we flew across that compound 40 square miles. Now, we're talking about a high water table and we're talking about you. You don't typically build in these kinds. This is the piney woods of Texas. Knock down a bunch of pine trees, we Got this loamy ground and everything is just, you know, right there at the edge of water. And we're building out trailer parks. This is crazy stuff. Crazy world. And so these two gentlemen, last name Harris, we can talk about it. It's in the open. It's open source. They build this compound. And this compound is now, at that time, it was probably occupied. Our estimate was in 20 to 30,000. Right now it's over 100,000. Right. We flew over again. I flew over again not too long ago, did a video on it. I'll send you the video. And you can use it anytime you want because it's showing the truth. And the truth is there are three schools there, and they're called leaders, International leadership schools where they teach, guess what? Mandarin Chinese. Right. Where they have a really robust ROTC system. Except the problem is you're teaching Mandarin Chinese to this, to these kids in the United States for what? Right? So I got to look at the most dangerous course of action. Many of these people, the majority of them are illegals. Right. So these are things where, when. Roy Boyd, Sheriff of Goliad County. Great Sheriff. You need to get him on. If you haven't, and you need to get to know the guy. One of our top sheriffs in Texas is chasing criminals from Goliad county back up into Liberty now. And this is a lawless territory for.
Steve Bannon
Yeah, during the Biden years, he was.
Doc Pete Chambers
The first line of defense. Yeah, he's. Well, he's. And he's still doing it. And he's going strong, him and Sheriff.
Steve Bannon
So, Colleen Ridge, you got. Tell me about H1B visas. You've got a couple of specialists that people said, hey, he's got the best team.
Doc Pete Chambers
Yeah.
Steve Bannon
In the country. I want to tell the audience that as much as Warham, Texas, has exploded about Sharia law, and that's the reason we came here after getting here and meeting so many people. They also say, steve, you gotta start talking about H1B visas because we're being overwhelmed that you've got some of the top.
Doc Pete Chambers
Look, the folks in Plano and Frisco and Colony Ridge. Not Colony Ridge, it might as well be.
Steve Bannon
But Frisco.
Doc Pete Chambers
North of there, it's H1B World. This is the triangle. This is the corner of the top of the triangle. That's Dallas, Fort Worth. And you go down to Houston and you go over to San Antonio. But H1B is just part of the problem. It's a dual problem. You got the F1 visas. That's the top of the funnel. Then the H1Bs are once they get into the system, F1 gets somebody to graduate school, colleges hire them, put them in as teaching assistants. They don't have to pay the fica. Right. The matching fica. The two biggest universities get them into.
Steve Bannon
The education system and they come right here.
Doc Pete Chambers
Now they're just on that perfect track.
Steve Bannon
And the Texas university system is like the Green Berets.
Doc Pete Chambers
We call it the Q course. This is the Q course for H1BS. So they're sending them right into that system. And they're, and they're, and at that point now they're taking away from jobs.
Steve Bannon
From kids, from Texans, and they're not assimilating as, as, as entities. I want to go back through all these. Sure. Because people would look to you for leadership of this. On the situation of the Islamic invasion of Texas and Sharia law, on the tech, on the issue of Colony Ridge and all of these developers getting in business to bring illegal aliens here and on H1B visas. Take a couple of minutes and walk me through your solutions as governor on.
Doc Pete Chambers
The Sharia law and on the enclaves and on the hideouts, if you will, the lily pads that are out there, the places where we know that there are criminal activities taking place, foreign terrorist organizations, networks, transnational criminal organizations, cartel organizations, any of those that are in this state, we have the robust capability to investigate that. But we also have the 8th largest economy in the world and we have the ability to bring people in like Eric Prince, because I respect what he said and I've studied it. And that plan is, is, is, is perfect. And we've got to be able to bring those kind of people to the front and say, all right, we're going to stop it here. And this is because of what you said, this gem, and I call it the jewel. Yeah, this, this domino of the flyover states is Texas.
Steve Bannon
So you're just not going to have optics. You want reality? I'm going to clean this.
Doc Pete Chambers
We're going to hit the ground running day.
Steve Bannon
What about H1? When B visa? You got some of the sophisticated advisors in, in the country are working with them.
Doc Pete Chambers
What are you gonna do? Number one guy's a sixth generation Texan.
Steve Bannon
He cares as, as, as governor. What are you going to do about H1B visa? Because the, the school, the college system in the Texas government is one of the worst. So one of the worst participants in.
Doc Pete Chambers
This DEI woke all that stuff in the colleges. And these are big universities. I'm not going to name them, but they're out there and you mean Texans now?
Steve Bannon
Well, big. And they're also some excellent universities. But they've gone right, they've gone a.
Doc Pete Chambers
Right, they've gone the setting, setting those positions as boards of regents, you have to get that set first. Right? Everything comes down from there because those are the ones that set the pace. We got to get rid of dei, but we also have to train. And this is, this is the key to the H1B. Problem is these folks coming from other countries learn this enterprise applications is a federally mandated type of application that teaches this technology that people hire. So as we look at that specific. Guess what, it's a year and a half of training. I can put it in a high.
Steve Bannon
School pipeline into Texas. High school.
Doc Pete Chambers
High school.
Steve Bannon
We don't need.
Doc Pete Chambers
We don't. And then you bring them out at 18, 19 years old and they go to work and they take the jobs back and then you deincentivize any corporations that has a higher ratio.
Steve Bannon
I don't think anybody would have a question that Doc Chambers is a band of courage and a leader. And if I wanted to have something that had a front tank, I'd have Doc Chambers there. Or if I needed a situation dealt with, Doc Chambers would be the first guy I call. It's the eighth largest economy in the world. It's almost a nation state in and of itself. That economy is only getting bigger and more complex as agriculture and oil field services and construction all become more technologically based. Of course, you have a huge high tech group, maybe too much power in Austin and others are bringing H1B in. What would you say to people said, hey, I like the cut of his jib. I like the fact he's courageous. He looks me in the eye. He's not going to lie to me. But does he have the managerial expertise to oversee or work with and oversee this economy in the legislature? And walk me through your economic plan. Take a few minutes and convince people that you've got that down pat as you've got the leadership qualities down pat.
Doc Pete Chambers
Well, the leadership qualities we've got. And we've already got the teams built. Right. So these are task forces. The governor can have task forces and commissions. Right. I've already got task force commission built for every single one of these entities. But we've got to have a baseline of physical security. Then the fiscal security comes in. Right. We've got to decrease taxes. Texas is number six in the nation on taxes.
Steve Bannon
That shocks people.
Doc Pete Chambers
And it's 40% of Texas doesn't own a home. 40%. So we've got to get that, get that back. So this is just a matter of.
Steve Bannon
How do you, how are you going to cut taxes when you have such a huge budget in Austin?
Doc Pete Chambers
We've got it. We've got to audit that thing because right now there is so much money that is sitting in funds that are not being used. We got emergency fund of $36 billion. We got a over surplus of 20 plus billion. 26 billion. It means you taxed us 26 billion more than you needed. Well, we need to bring that back around. Let the, let the businesses do what they do. But we've got to, we've got to our. We've got to work. I got to work hand in hand with the, you know, the, all the different specialist groups in Texas to make sure that we match up with our commission.
Steve Bannon
Aren't you advocating that you believe in your at least first term that you'll be able to cut, radically cut property.
Doc Pete Chambers
Tax 26 is what we're estimating.
Steve Bannon
How are you going to cut. Is that, are you sounding like a politician in that regard or is this a plan?
Doc Pete Chambers
This is a plan. Permanent university fund. PUF. Okay. All right. Sits out there. 15% of crude that comes out of West Texas oil, that's public ground, public land goes to those two universities. It's the two biggest ones in Texas. Been going since 1800s. Well, if we're going to use a permanent university fund, it's first for, for education. Let's put it into, at the high school level. Let's stop building 70, $40 million high school stadiums. Let's do a little bit of fiscal responsibility because that's what's happening. We just can't go out there and get a bond to have more money to pay for borrowed money and put it on the shoulders of the Texas citizens and their grandkids. We've got to stop those practices. We also got to look into when, when, when foreigners come into this state and buy land, they come in and pay a lot more for it to get the land. Right. So this is a land grab.
Steve Bannon
Could you, Would you ban, would you ban foreign interest buying?
Doc Pete Chambers
State of Texas on. There are certain countries I completely would ban and one of them is China. Right?
Steve Bannon
You would ban China?
Doc Pete Chambers
Absolutely.
Steve Bannon
Would you ban the, the Muslim countries.
Doc Pete Chambers
From, from any, any Muslim.
Steve Bannon
One of the reasons people are saying, hey, I've been forced to sell to these people and they're paying a premium price, so I'm just going to get out. Would you ban Muslim countries or something?
Doc Pete Chambers
I would. Based upon exactly any Any, any country that is ill intent in the United States or in Texas. 100. Because Texas is not for sale. And it's not about the gdp, right. It's about the sovereignty of Texas. We've got to get that straight first. Everything will fall into place. But in the meantime, I've got to protect. So when you, you or I buy land, let's say in Canada or England, we pay higher taxes for it there. So if they come here, why aren't they paying higher tax in a lot of countries?
Steve Bannon
You're in China, you can't buy any land. I mean, you can't, you can't buy anything.
Doc Pete Chambers
Walk me through.
Steve Bannon
We got a couple minutes left. I want to walk through the. How are you going to cut property taxes by 26%? Right?
Doc Pete Chambers
So you take that permit.
Steve Bannon
Oh, you're going to take the fund and you're.
Doc Pete Chambers
It's in the hundreds of billions of dollars. And so you bring that in. Now you give it, now you give it to, to cut those school taxes. Right? Texas is number 40 out of 50 states in education right now.
Steve Bannon
That's impossible. It's impossible given the great university system we have. How, how these schools, I guess we're.
Doc Pete Chambers
Talking about the elementary all the way up in the.
Steve Bannon
How can that be?
Doc Pete Chambers
We've got, we've got a problem. We, we, we, we, we don't pay our teachers enough. We spend 80% of our, our school taxes on administrative costs.
Steve Bannon
Administrative. But the teachers unions are also totally screwed up here, right? I mean, isn't that one of dei?
Doc Pete Chambers
Yeah, well, yeah, the dei. But also when you look at the Blue Bonnet program, that's another one. And we got, you know, school vouchers. A lot of people don't like it because it's very Marxist in the way it's written. Not the, not the premise. But the Blue Bonnet program matches almost verbatim United Nations World Education Plan. Right? So these things were bought in by outside of a state.
Steve Bannon
How did this get into the state of Texas?
Doc Pete Chambers
Outside of state vendors? Because there's a good old boy network. This is a non, non bid. So we'll take it from some guy.
Steve Bannon
Are you. You're a very tough and courageous man with a lot of physical courage. Do you believe that you have the courage to go to Austin and clean that mess up, sir?
Doc Pete Chambers
Absolutely. Absolutely.
Steve Bannon
What do you think?
Doc Pete Chambers
I've demonstrated it physically. Demonstrated in courtrooms, federal, federal court cases. I have no problem standing up for truth. Sometimes it hurts. Sometimes they call you things that you aren't. Right. Sometimes you take A beating. And that's. That's what we do. We'll draw a fire for that. But, yeah, I'm a. I'm a. I have a servant's heart. And now that doesn't stop.
Steve Bannon
Give me two minutes. Give me two minutes on the best pitch you can make for why Doc Chambers should go against a incumbent Republican governor. Got $100 million in the bank.
Doc Pete Chambers
Why you Right. Because. Because for me, I focus on Texas first. I'm a Texas first candidate. I'm a conservative, but I'm a. I'm a conservative that believes in the principles of the Bible that came down to our founding fathers through John Knox, who then took principles from the Bible, went to the Lords in Scotland and said, no, I'm going to interpose and I'm going to push large government down as low as I can to the people through the doctrine of lesser magistrates. And that's a thing, right? It's not lesser in the form of who's greater, who's better lesser. It's closest to the ground. Because when we decrease, when decentralized big government, same thing. From Austin down, I will protect us from the federal government. I got it. I've done that before. But I've got to protect the rest of Texas from Austin.
Steve Bannon
Talk to me about your campaign website if people want to contribute. And where do people go to find out your schedule? I know.
Doc Pete Chambers
Yes.
Steve Bannon
We got three weeks left and you are literally on fire all over the 21 days.
Doc Pete Chambers
We'll be in Houston tomorrow.
Steve Bannon
I'm so, I'm so grateful we were able to hook up.
Doc Pete Chambers
Where do people go, Doc? Pete Chambers. Not that one right there. Docpechambers.org There you go. Right there. Yeah. Now that right there is where you can go and there's a place to give to the right. You can volunteer. We've got 1500 plus volunteers right now. We're moving strong and 21 days. And there is a calendar there we can see. We're at. And there is a merch page which sells signs. We're doing them for costs. We're not taking any, any profit in that. Everything here that's happened has been organic. Right. There's organizations out there that call themselves grassroots. They're not. Right. Those things are organizations to raise money. It doesn't go to us. So don't, don't think.
Steve Bannon
When are we going to see Abbott on a debate stage with you?
Doc Pete Chambers
Well, he missed the first one one in Van Zant county, but hopefully he'll get to the next one.
Steve Bannon
I was hoping you think he'll stand on his.
Doc Pete Chambers
He won't. Because when Allen west was there, he was trying the same thing. It didn't work. It's okay.
Steve Bannon
Thank you so much for joining us.
Doc Pete Chambers
Oh, yeah.
Steve Bannon
In War Room, Texas. A great honor.
Doc Pete Chambers
We look forward.
Steve Bannon
We're going to pick you up on the campaign trail.
Doc Pete Chambers
Sure. Do this.
Steve Bannon
Okay. We'll see you back in the war room at 10:00am Eastern Standard Time tomorrow. Make sure everybody goes and checks out. Doc Chambers campaign website right now. We'll see you Tomorrow morning at 10am.
Doc Pete Chambers
What makes a man to you wonder? What makes a man to roam? What makes a manly bed and born and turn his back on home.
Steve Bannon
Away.
Doc Pete Chambers
Right away. Ride away.
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Date: February 12, 2026
Host: Steve Bannon
Guest: Doc Pete Chambers
This episode centers on “saving Texas and the rest of the Republic” with Doc Pete Chambers, a retired Green Beret and Texas National Guard officer running for governor of Texas. The conversation is built around anxieties regarding the influence of Islamic communities (specifically, an alleged "Sharia law" threat), immigration, border security, and what Chambers frames as the failures of current leadership under Governor Abbott. Issues of election integrity, vaccine mandates, the state of Texas’s economy, H1B visas, and Colony Ridge (a large immigrant enclave) are explored. Chambers positions himself as a hard-nosed outsider and patriot uniquely suited to take on state and federal corruption, protect Texan sovereignty, and lead Texas through turbulent times.
Timestamps: 00:00-09:12, 32:14-36:38
"Islam will never dominate the United States, and by the grace of God, it will not dominate Texas." — Doc Pete Chambers [08:50]
"We're going to tell them, take your Sharia law and shove it." — Steve Bannon [08:47]
Timestamps: 06:37-09:12, 09:38-13:02, 34:51-36:38
“You can write a strongly worded letter and that's good. That's a start. But…that has to come directly from [the governor]…So guys like me that watched it happen... they're conducting the same stuff they did on the border, which is a whack-a-mole.” — Doc Pete Chambers [06:37]
Timestamps: 09:17-25:44
“I did not have a burning passion when this kicked off. I was conducting counter human trafficking work...I realized and I saw behind the curtain of what was really happening. This isn't about throwing casting stones...it's just reality versus optics.” — Doc Pete Chambers [10:53]
"Sometimes your path gets chosen not by you, but by your prayers, the answers to your prayers. And that's just Pete Chambers." — Doc Pete Chambers [25:08]
Timestamps: 13:07-19:13
“This will not stop without us bringing you and putting cartel carcasses on this table right here.” — Chambers’ Sergeant Major [17:47]
Timestamps: 37:19-41:43
"We're building out trailer parks. This is crazy stuff...Now, we're talking about a lawless territory...Three schools...teach, guess what? Mandarin Chinese. For what?" — Doc Pete Chambers [37:19]
Timestamps: 43:54-47:13
"Texas is not for sale. And it's not about the GDP, right. It's about the sovereignty of Texas. We've got to get that straight first." — Doc Pete Chambers [46:22]
Timestamps: 47:13-48:33
Chambers on the stakes in Texas:
"As Texas goes, so goes the nation. As the nation goes, so goes the world. Are you prepared to fight for this state? Are you prepared to fight for your country?" — Steve Bannon [08:57]
On Sharia law:
"The United States Constitution and Sharia are fundamentally at odds with one another." — Doc Pete Chambers [08:43]
On border security:
"You want an optic, but you don't want an incident." — Doc Pete Chambers [17:38]
On running for governor:
"Sometimes your path gets chosen not by you, but by your prayers, the answers to your prayers. And that's just Pete Chambers." — Doc Pete Chambers [25:08]
On economic policy:
"Texas is not for sale. And it's not about the GDP, right. It's about the sovereignty of Texas. We've got to get that straight first. Everything will fall into place." — Doc Pete Chambers [46:22]
The episode maintains a combative, urgent, and heavily populist tone throughout, with religious undercurrents and repeated references to patriotism, sovereignty, and the battle for America’s ideals. The language is direct and at times hyperbolic, with both speakers casting the current moment as a precipice for Texas and the nation.
“I focus on Texas first. I'm a Texas first candidate. I'm a conservative that believes in the principles of the Bible...I've got to protect the rest of Texas from Austin.”
— Doc Pete Chambers [48:43]
Chambers invites listeners to his website (docpechambers.org) and urges support for his campaign, emphasizing his outsider status and claim to truth-telling compared to entrenched political leadership.