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WarRoom Battleground EP 983: Trump Backs Down From Bombing Iran; Ceasefire Agreement Proposed To Postpone Bombing For Two Weeks
WarRoom Battleground EP 983: Trump Backs Down From Bombing Iran; Ceasefire Agreement Proposed To Postpone Bombing For Two Weeks ...
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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And where do people like that go
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to share the big line?
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MAGA media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. It's Tuesday, the 7th of April year for Lord 2026. We're going to get back to the war and what President Trump says are heated negotiations about a two week ceasefire or two week pause in the hammer that is supposed to be dropped starting at 8pm Although I think the Israelis are already starting to drop part of it in the United States Air Force, I believe are seeing some military targets as last night on just on the military side. CENTCOM P. Texas tells us that last night was the worst night they've had. So these guys are continuing to hit. We're going to get to all that as we run up on the 7 o' clock hour, which is only one hour away from the witching hour of 8pm Real America's Voice will be having special coverage. It'll go from 8 to 9. If there's reason to keep it going later, it will go later. We got a crack team. I may actually dip in and out of that as we're working on some other stuff here at the War Room, but obviously very, very important. I got Brian Kennedy and Frank Gaffney here with me. Brandon Weicker is going to join in a while. So we're going to go through a lot about the war. But I want to talk about something if you follow the War Room. In my public addresses and speeches I keep saying that the enemy we got to be the imminent danger to the United States of America ain't coming from Tehran. It's coming inside the wire here in the United States of America. And it's coming particularly this red green alliance which now controls the financial capital of the world in the greatest city in the United States. Yes, that would be New York City. Also controls large swaths of blue states, particularly sanctuary cities. And let's be blunt, the White House political team is blinked. You can't mention the word mass deportations or the phrase mass deportation, but I will tell you, the Mass deportation Coalition is just getting rolling and there's going to a whole lot to be announced with those folks in the days and weeks ahead. Also, they have selected the great state of Texas because they understand Texas is the jewel and the crown. Last night we had Rosemary Jenks on about the H1B problems in Texas. And they are enormous and need to be addressed and need to be addressed immediately. But the business before us is this Islamic invasion. The jihadist peace are the green peace of the Red Green Alliance. Frank Gaffney, you've been down really, and this is the way that the Muslim Brotherhood and care and these terrorist organizations and this whole coming in on cat's paws Islamic invasion because they're very sneaky. And what they've done here, there's a the Texas Board of Education, they're going through approving some textbooks that will have massive implications over the next decade, not just in Texas, but in 19 or 20 other states, because the scale economies, the publishing business are if Texas buys it, other states, to keep their costs down, are going to buy it also. So Texas is kind of the, the, the lead here in making these decisions. And they months ago, I guess now, half a year ago, nine months ago, said, hey, we don't think the textbooks that we've even had are good enough about teaching patriotism. And of course, CAIR and the Islamic invasion got all over that and they've come up with and they've got some weak sisters, particularly Republicans that are going along with them, that think that what Texas school children need in their formation period would be an infusion of good old pseudo history about how much Islam has meant to the United States of America and just how much it has improved the United States of America. And quite frankly, how important going back to the founding of the republic and the founding of Texas, it's been so vital to that history. Well, there's a lot of patriots to understand that that is all nonsense. That is fantasy. And that's how they try to win the information war. Frank Gaffney, you were there, set the stage for us. What happened. You actually testified. Let us know what happened and how the testimony, because last time this happened, back in November, they had 91 people came and testified. 89 testified for the Muslims, two for the Patriots. How did it go today, sir?
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Well, it was a very different deal, Steve. And just on your previous point, I just can't say. One of my personal favorites of this revisionist history of the Jihadis is that the Alamo was actually a tribute to Islamic architecture and, you know, influences. So that's the kind of crap that they're trying to float. And you're right, they have been working stealthily. I call it the frog boiling every way they can. And this particular vehicle to get into our pedagogy, as it's called, to essentially build on what the left has been doing since the 1960s, as you know, to, as they say, march through the institutions. Well, this is another example of the red, green axis doing the same. And today it was a different deal. Today there were patriots that were there pushing back. I was proud to be among them. I had all of two minutes to make a couple of key points, the most important of which was my old boss, Ronald Reagan, a man I know you admired as much as I did, famously talks about the stealth phenomenon, I guess you might call it, the practice, in other words, of having. I'm looking for TSA individual who might just grab my bags, which are over the other side of this airport. But the bottom line is Reagan talked about an existential threat to freedom being something every generation had to confront. And when he said that, he meant that we must rise to the occasion both in the present generation in terms of what we bequeath to the next, but also to equip the next generation to do the same in their turn. And that's what this, well, educational jihad is aimed at destroying. It's discouraging people from thinking this country is worth fighting for. And that corrosive effect is absolutely subversive. And what they're trying very hard to do with their friends on the left is to make sure that the kids don't have any real understanding about what this is, this country, this exceptional country, and why, yes, it's worth fighting for and dying for if necessary. So what we talked about is that's not so what. I'm prayerful with Pam Little's vote, and I want to just say I appreciate her saying she was not going to have any part of this. And I want to also say thank you again to the posse, because I think it is another example, Steve, of what happens when you equip your team, our team, patriotic Americans across this country, with the facts and give them something specific to do. They can make a profound impact. And it does save this curriculum, and it does save, as a result, this next generation or two from going down the maw of, you know, the red, green types. It will be a signal accomplishment. Still to be determined how the votes go out it may be as late as late tonight. Excuse me, as early as late tonight. It may be in the next days. But it will be informed, I think, by the testimony that they heard from patriotic Americans. And we had a wonderful, by the way, we had a wonderful kind of impromptu press conference in the foyer of the Barbara Jordan building. The only problem was that Kerr and its friends staged a press conference outside the building. And guess what? All of the press, literally all of the press was covering them and their bitching and moaning about what's not satisfactory to them instead of what patriotic Americans. And we had hundreds of them worth saying and singing and praying about in the margins of this very important hearing. So all I can say is praise God. It's another hopeful sign that, as you say, Steve, as Texas goes, so goes the nation. And let's just be clear, that is literally the case with respect to these textbooks. If Texas goes down, the rest of the nation is going to follow for sure. It mustn't happen.
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Frank, I know you gotta catch a plane, but two things I want to. What about this Republican from Houston that sided with the Muslims? How did that happen and what kind of accountability we're going to have on this guy?
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None. He's not up for reelection. He's term limited. I think his name's Will Hickman. He was very aggressively trying to defend himself from the many attacks that were offered up by people who say, look, this is a betrayal. This is servicing your enemies and enabling them to make real inroads to our country. And, you know, I think that the ultimate accountability will come in the form of his name, Will Hickman, his reputation, his standing as a Republican. We had the deputy, I guess, deputy chairman of the Republican Party on our friend Debbie George Addis's program this afternoon with her, her Republican committeeman Robin co hosting. And she just said, you know, this is a betrayal of Republicans. And the problem with it, as was made clear by Robin as well, is it demoralizes Republicans. And that's precisely what the counter, you know, the jihadis are all about. They wanted to moralize us, they wanted to feed us and they want us to think there's no hope and we just forget about it. That's not going to happen on our watch, is it
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not going to happen? Impossible. Frank, quickly, your thoughts about. We're coming upon the witching hour of 8 o'. Clock. President Trump has given an ultimatum. There's a lot of parties trying to move to a two week ceasefire. They're talking to the right Iranians. Iranians came out Told the Wall street journal we have 15,000 missiles and 45,000 drones. Now, that may be exaggerated, but the Wall Street Journal, the Pakistanis said these guys don't seem like they're about to quit. Your thoughts?
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They're not about to quit, Steve. They have to be defeated. That's the only option here. Unconditional surrender. The President had it right a couple of weeks ago. These are, we should be clear, these are people for whom the apocalypse is not only desirable, it is required. They seek to bring it on. I personally would be very, very concerned about the President wiping out all of the infrastructure that the people of Iran need in order to try to dissuade these guys from doing bad things in the Hormuz Strait. I'm telling you, this is a moment when the only solution is to put them out of business. And that means all of the third tier, all of the fourth tier, and so on. But that's a hell of a lot easier, it turns out, than ferreting out where all of the rockets are, all of the launchers, the mobile launches, the deeply buried launchers are, and so on. This isn't war that has to be fought to a decisive conclusion. That means none of these guys survive to say they won, which is what they are going to do. Count on it.
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Frank, where do people go to get your content? Your show, all of it? Sir.
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Our substack is securing america.subset.com it's the real America's Voice program that we do every day. Couldn't be more proud to be on the show on the network with you, Steve. My handle at X is at Frank Afney. And the most important website that I want to drive people to is ban Sharia.com. you'll find much more about all of this jihadi stuff and most especially how you can get your elected representatives to take the Sharia Free pledge. They need to do that now. We need to know where they stand and to be able to hold them accountable when elected. Thank you, Steve. God bless you.
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Thank you, brother. You can. Thank you for going to Austin, testifying, rallying the people down there, having a great press conference. We'll have more on that tomorrow. Particularly cares press conference. Can't wait to play some of that. I want to thank our friends at Patriot Mobile. None of this will be possible in Texas if it was not for Glenn and Jenny story. Just legendary, folks. 972 Patriot call right now their customer service. You'll get someone with an East Texas accent who's a citizen of these United States and they'll walk you through all the benefits for switching today to the world's best mobile service. That is Patriot Mobile 972 Patriot. Tell them the Warren sent you, that you talked to Bannon about this and they're going to give you a free month when you make the shift. Also, we were honored to have Jim Rickards on this morning. Rickards war room.com it's a landing page. You get access to Strategic Intelligence, which is based upon predictive analytics. Just a very extraordinary, extraordinary, extraordinary newsletter. Also, those in a free book on Money and ChatGPT, artificial intelligence in Fiat Currency. It's a thriller. You don't want to miss it. But read what CEOs and chairmen throughout the world are reading. Strategic Intelligence do it today. Go to rickardswarroom.com Want to thank Jim Rickards for joining us this morning. Brian Kennedy, first off, Brian, your thoughts before we get into the war. Your thoughts on Texas and why this battle against CARE and the Muslim Brotherhood. And you see that they know it's important. That's why CARE is showing up, but particularly about textbooks and, and our children, which are our future, sir.
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Thank you, Steve, for having me on. And you're absolutely right. Islam is, as we know, completely incompatible with both Western Christendom and with the American way of life. And unfortunately, that's not been explained adequately to the American people. And the whole idea that they would create this narrative that in fact they're as American as you or I are American is just a matter of deception of which they are masters. And because they're masters of deception, they're very good at playing on, it seems to me, the live and let live attitude most Americans have, which is, you keep to yourself, we're fine, we'll keep to ourselves. And so I have family in Texas, for instance. And they don't see this. They don't see the Indians interfering with their way of life. They don't see the Muslims interfering with their way of life. They're just living their lives. They go to church on Sunday. They go to Little League. They live the American dream. And so the Muslims, especially in Texas, have managed to fly under the radar for so long now they're emboldened. Now they think they can insert into our textbooks this false narrative about how they're as American as we are and their contributions. This is, as Frank often says and you often say, this is a stealth jihad in which they mean to replace Western Christendom with Islam. And they've taken over New York, as you've described. We can't let that happen. We have to fight it there. We certainly have to fight it in Texas. And we certainly need the Trump administration to ban the Muslim Brotherhood in all of its forms nationwide, not only the Brotherhood, but any of its affiliates, because that's really their. Their army, as it were, that they can use to go around the country and bully these Americans who believe in live and let live into basically embracing their narrative. And we simply can't let that happen. We have defined it everywhere we see it.
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Bryant, we're 90 minutes away from what President Trump has put a deadline, and he was pretty blunt. He said, look, they asked for seven. I gave him seven. I threw in another three to get us through Easter. I added another day so we wouldn't have to do this on Easter Monday. But today's the deadline at 8 o'. Clock. What does that mean? Particularly President Trump's. His rhetoric has been pretty sharp and focused on what he intends to do unless they come to the table and at least begin the process of making a deal that he thinks can stick. Sir?
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Yeah, it was a very interesting comment he made, and I was very interested in the New York Times story this morning. First on his. His Truth Social post. He really does believe in winning this war and whatever it takes to win this war. I firmly believe that when he said he wants to destroy their empire or their empire would be destroyed, I would humbly submit that the greatness of Persia existed, you know, 500 years before Jesus, and it really hasn't been the same since they were conquered by the Muslims in the seventh century. What we see in Iran today is a civilization that is entirely Muslim in nature. There is, of course, the genius of the Persian people and their ability to preserve their literature and many parts of their culture. But what we see in Iran today is very foreign, in my judgment, to what the Persian people actually want. And if President Trump is successful here in overturning this Islamic regime, I think instead of destroying the Persian empire or Persian civilization, more accurately, it'll be a way of preserving Persian civilization. I think if you're able to liberate the Persian people, and that's their job, not our job, I think they could recover what is great about them. Again, that's not our job. It's their job. But so long as Islam is the ruling doctrine of Iran, they will see themselves as the military vanguard of a global Islamic movement. And I think if they succeed there, they will embolden Islamic movements all around the world. So President Trump, I think, has firm resolve about this. He has said for over 25 years, they can't have nuclear weapons. And we can disagree about their nuclear weapons program. But he firmly believes that in the New York Times story this morning, basically had him reiterate in front of both Netanyahu and his own cabinet that they cannot have nuclear weapons, no matter whatever else may be true, that that is firmly stuck in his mind.
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The what you said about the military, how does the power in the oil. Because that's what he's going after tonight. At least he says he's going after. He's going after their power plants. He's going to take them back to the Stone Age, their oil capacity. How does that tie into the military program? Because you got a lot of people saying, oh, these are war crimes. He's committing war crimes. He's got to be brought up on charges of war crimes. It's obviously nonsense, but you've had a focus on defanging and declawing, as Captain Fennell tells us, now you're shifting unless they meet your demands, particularly about the Strait of Hormuz. What is he trying to accomplish in really going after essentially what looks like state collapse, Sir?
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Yeah, that's the most dangerous part here. Steve and I share Frank Gaffney's concern that we would be essentially impoverishing and putting great humanitarian costs upon the Iranian people by destroying those power plants and bridges that may be required in order to win this war. But that is not a desirable thing. I don't think the president believes it's a desirable thing. I think he thought this would have been something that could have been done a lot quicker. He said that in that New York Times piece. But I think the danger here is if you destroy all of those things, then you have a regime that really has nothing to lose. And when they have nothing to lose, what would they do with their military arsenal? Where would they use that? Would they use asymmetric attacks here in the United States? They no doubt have sleeper cells in this country. So one thing I would caution the war room posse about is the potential for violence here in the United States. We can't dismiss that. And even though the president doesn't discuss that, that is certainly something we have to be concerned about. We don't want to destroy Iranian society. We don't want to destroy those power plants and bridges. And let us pray that there is a way of avoiding that if at all possible. But unfortunately, it looks like that's where this is going.
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The New York Times piece, you're talking about the Maggie Haberman, Jonathan Swan. It's going to be an excerpt from their book that's going to come out in June, the one that talked about Netanyahu's visit and then it talked about in great detail the National Security Council meetings that the President chaired.
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Right, right. And I thought that was a fascinating expose of what people thought. We know that JD Vance was very deeply concerned. We know Marco Rubio and, and Director Ratcliffe thought that the Israeli plan for overthrowing the regime was, in the way Churchill thought of things, too easy to be good. Marco Rubio said it was B.S. i think that's right. And the President now is dealing with, how do I win this? How do I make sure Iran does not have nuclear weapons that can hurt the United States, and how do I do that in ways that do not destroy the global economy? This is a very delicate balancing act. I personally try to have a lot of humility about all this. We don't know everything about this, but we do know the President has, Has conviction. And let's pray that conviction is matched with the kind of prudence that would make sure that we can, we can preserve the global economy and our own prosperity.
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Didn't it strike you as odd that JD Marco Ratcliffe and General Kaine all came out looking like reasonable people in that article and President Trump looked like the guy just trying to bowl through. Did it strike you as odd that they had so many direct quotes? I mean, I strongly believe that that article and how that article came about and who talked to the reporters has got to be investigated. That is, you should not get into the National Security Council that deeply with direct quotes. And, you know, it's very disturbing. Some of the information there is, I think, quite disturbing. We'd like to have the President address it because I'm not buying it. It's fake news, because I guarantee you it didn't go down like that.
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No, I agree.
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Everybody looks great. Everybody looks great except a guy named Donald Trump.
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Yeah, that's the part that's ridiculous about it. They made everyone else seem reasonable and President Trump seemed ridiculous. But I will say, well, I'm not so sure they.
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I'm not so sure the writer. I'm not so sure the writers made them look good. I think that's why it's gotta be investigated. Who actually made him look good, we ought to find out, because they look like reasonable people. And they, and they, and they try to, you know, and they try to paint President Trump. And that's why this thing is so difficult, because now you've got people are scrambling behind the scenes right now and there's a ton of people pitching ideas. And hey, we got relationships. We got. Brian, can you hang on one second? We're just taking a short commercial break here. I don't think it's a better time. For those of you that haven't gotten up the learning curve on the end of the dollar empire right now, the hard copy edition, which is a bounded edition with graphics, et cetera, the first seven. He's kind of had a couple of press runs and is currently out of print. 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Field Marshal Munir of Pakistan and wherein they requested that I hold off the destructive force being sent tonight to Iran. And subject to the Islamic Republic of Iran agreeing to the complete, immediate and safe opening of the Strait of Hormuz, I agreed to suspend the bombing and attack of Iran for a period of two weeks. This will be a double sided cease fire. The reason for doing so is that we have already met and exceeded all military objectives and are very far along with the definitive agreement concerning long term peace with Iran and peace in the Middle east. We received a 10 point proposal from Iran and believe it as a workable basis on which to negotiate. Almost all the various points of past contention have been agreed to between the United States and Iran. But a two week period will allow the agreement to be finalized and consummated. On behalf of the United States of America, as President and also representing the countries of the Middle east, it is an honor to have this long term problem close to resolution. Thank you for attention in this matter. President DONALD J. Trump TRUMP President of these United States I think the buried lead there that is most important at least for everything that everybody's been working for is agreeing to the complete and this is all cap. In fact we'll put it up right there, you can see it yourself. Complete, immediate and safe opening of the Strait of Hormuz. Brian Kennedy, we told you some people were working behind the scenes. Looks like the Pakistanis and his relationship with the Field Marshal came through. Of course we haven't seen any details of this. We certainly haven't heard from the Iranians. The last thing we heard from the Iranians on this very topic just a couple hours ago is that yo, we've cut off diplomatic relationship. We're not talking to anybody and we got 15,000 missiles and 45,000 drones. Suck on that. We're winning this war. Your thoughts about this, sir?
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Well, as we said, as I think I said before we went to break, the President doesn't want to do this. He doesn't want to destroy their infrastructure, their power plants and their bridges. He'd rather find some kind of an agreement so that the people of Iran can flourish. I suspect with Pakistan Doing this. This is also Communist China intervening a bit here too. The communist Chinese do not want that oil being stopped through the Straits of Hormuz. And they have long term contracts with the Iranians that they would like to see someday renewed and restarted. And so this may be a signal that even the communist Chinese are worried about the impact of all this on the global economy. And they had their allies in Pakistan lean in to the President and see if they can't strike this kind of a deal. That would be my immediate take on what's transpired here.
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Brandon Weickert, you came back, you're at a meeting. Came back to be on the show. You had some very specific intelligence. But if there was going to be a hit tonight. Yeah. What that would entail. How do you take this? We know people behind the scenes also there were other intermediaries trying to say, hey, we can get these guys. What is your particular this condition that is based upon a complete total free navigation of Hormuz, Sir.
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Well, as I texted with you not long ago, I was somewhat confounded by my friends in Saudi Arabia who were acting like this thing is no big deal, no fuss. They, they seem to have a good read on the prospects of peace. And now we know that the Pakis were in the background there maneuvering. And so I, I think that Mr. Kennedy is probably correct. The Chinese certainly were probably pulling a lever there. But I also think that it's important to understand the Pakistanis, as you rightly note, that the leadership there have had a very close relationship with the 47th president. And you know, he helped them out with the Indo PA any war last year. And so in a way this is sort of returning the favor. So good on them. It looks like this for now is avoided. The worst case scenario that I was fearing because I was watching B52 Stratofortresses flying in from the United Kingdom carrying what I suspected were the Jassm er long range missiles, which are basically beyond visual range systems that would have been used, I suspect, to hit the Iranian oil and energy infrastructure. That would have led to a counterattack that would have been devastating to the Gulf region, would have had knock on effects for the world economy, would have probably ensured that the Republicans would not be able to win the midterms and certainly would not help with the affordability crisis right now. The President can build off this over the next two weeks. He goes back to being the top dog, which is what you and I had been hoping that he would, he would do this. He would find an off ramp so right now it looks positive, but I'm still very tepid because, you know, the Iranians haven't said anything, so we don't really know what, what's going to happen next.
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Well, in fact, what they said a couple hours ago when this, something like this was raised, they went to the Wall Street Journal and there was enough for the Wall Street Journal to print it, that in fact they had cut off the negotiations. They weren't ready. They're winning, as I say, whether they're winning or not, in their mind, they think they're winning and that they've got tons of ammo left, including journalists, because the Wall Street Journal said that's obviously exaggerated. Are you, by doing this, are you emboldening some of the worst elements? Because the lower down the food chain you go, the more guys you kill at the top. You're not getting to Jeffersonian Democrats, right? You're not getting to Norman Rockwell New England town hall guys coming there worried about their families. These are hardcore, the hardest core Islamic theocrats that were formed, their formation was in the Iran Iraq war, right, what, 30 years ago, these people formed in the cauldron of battle of which they really had the odds against them and had, I don't know, a million casualties and were sending 12 year old kids up to the front with sticks. Do you think this emboldens them? If we give him a two week and it's got these terms to it and try to work out the terms, is that going to only embolden these guys to dig in even harder?
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D
I got to be honest with you, they were emboldened already. You know, what we did in those first rounds of airstrikes was we went in and killed Kamani and some of those older senior IRGC guys. But I, you know, I was talking to a former Navy SEAL a few weeks ago and he said his fear was that the younger guys coming up were actually the crazier ones. And now that the older guys were knocked out, they were gonna be really emboldened. And it looked like for a period of time now, since those original hits on the Iranian regime in February and early March, it looked for a while like that was exactly what was happening. And so I actually think that those guys are gonna be emboldened regardless and if anything by, by taking our foot off the gas pedal here. Yes, there are some downsides in terms of what we lose that tactical momentum, but ultimately it also gives time for Iran's people to kind of reorient. And right now they're rallying around their government because they're afraid, because they're worried that we could do something crazy against them. And so this now puts the pressure in the onus, in my opinion, back on the Islamic Republic because let's face it, they are a repressive, awful regime. And if left to their own devices, as we saw with the Soviet Union in the 1980s, if left to their own devices, I am convinced that that regime will implode under the internal contradictions of its own system. And it was on the brink of doing that, I believe, before we militarily intervened. And I think this could actually buy time for the people to reorganize and start pressuring their government for the much needed reforms and changes that they all want.
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A
How do you, you've been on this, it's closely. You've had a number of great calls, particularly about the shortage of ammo. And we know from the New York Times story as much grief as you that, oh, I get your time story today, actually, but it actually reinforced what you said at the time, this part about President Trump that he put up in all caps. You have to have a complete total and free navigation immediately of the Strait of Hormuz. Do you think that actually happens? And if we can't get to that, do we go back to shooting?
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D
Well, it's going to be the next probably six days are going to be very important. And what role the Pakis, and I say that with all due deference, I don't want to offend my Pakistani friends. The, the, the, the, the what role the Pakistanis will have because I do believe they are, they're a great hinge player here where they do have sort of one foot in with the Chinese camp, which includes Iran and the Russians, and they have one foot in with the White House. And I think that's actually very helpful here. I think what's going on is we're going to find out in the next probably four to six days if there can be any real consensus. But you know, if maybe there's some give where we tell the Iranians, you know, we can work something out where you're going to have some role in the straight of Hormuz. I know that was floated to Lawrence Wilkerson in 2007, perhaps there's some it won't, won't be perfect for us. But if we can get that oil flowing again, Steve, we can really hit the reset button and we might even be able to find an off ramp more generally with the regime in terms of just putting them back in their box. Ultimately, the real, the real wild card here is not going to be US or Iran or Pakistan or China. It's going to be Israel. Is Israel going to accept a even temporary ceasefire? And I am fearful that the Netanyahu government will not.
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A
Yeah, they certainly didn't. In fact, they were the ones that I think blew off the straight of Hormuz as even being a problem after we were supposed to hit them initially.
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D
Yaakov Armador said that to me, that they don't care. Jakob Armador said last two weeks ago, two Mondays ago, told me to my face that the Israeli government does not care about the Strait of Hormuz staying open or closed. So for them, this is not even an issue. So that's why I'm concerned.
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A
Brian Kennedy, your thoughts about all this?
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B
Yeah, this is, this is an important development and I think Brandon and you were both right about this. It seems to me, though, if Israel should break this ceasefire, that would break our alliance with Israel over this. If we're not operating in concert here, what are we doing now? All that having been said, I agree that this younger generation is quite likely to be at least as radical as the previous set of leaders. If that's the case, we'll be in a shooting war again very quickly here. And I think that's probably more likely than not. We don't know exactly what the Iranians are believing here. We don't know if there's some Iranian general who has control of things, incapable of actually negotiating something that would approach an end to this war. But the likeliness of that is probably remote at this point. The one thing I think we have to remember, I don't think President Trump is going to end this. If Iran still possesses or possesses the capability of producing nuclear weapons, if that is, if that is still the case, I don't see this war ending. And that's really the, that really is, I think, for President Trump, the threshold here. Will they have nuclear weapons? It's partly about the straight of Hormuz, but it's also about their capability of having nuclear weapons.
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A
Okay, let me, let me just go back over this one more time. Nuclear weapons, obviously very important. You can't trust anybody in this region. America's greatest ally has doubled Deltas from the beginning of this. Right. The whole situation of shifting the center of gravity of the battle down to Persian Gulf was they're taking on the gas field of the Qataris that they kind of joint manage with Iranians. But the guy supposedly on our side of the football are even worse. You can't trust them for anything. Also, I keep saying it's not just somebody who will say, Yeah, I got 10 points, I'm going to text them over to you. Let's negotiate. It's who can deliver actually a deal. I'm not so sure that I'm not certain. Let's say that the decentralized command of the Revolutionary Guard has total control of, I believe, Brandon and Brian, which is largely Bedouin, kind of these Arab pirates that have had that side since time immemorial. In fact, when Alexander the Great went, I'm not sure they report to anybody but themselves. And it's going to be interesting to see about this Hormuz when President Trump makes it the thing that's in bold cap letters that has to be opened or we don't have a deal. This will develop tonight and I'm sure tomorrow. Brandon, any thoughts on that before I let you punch out?
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D
Well, I think that we're in a wait and see mode again. And you know, I'm usually very skeptical about the, the, the prospects of negotiations, but I think the Iranians are right in feeling that they, they are emboldened right now. And actually that might work in our favor. That actually might give us a window to, to ratchet this thing down, kind of hit the reset button and let the regional powers, including Israel states and Pakistan, let them and Turkey kind of take the lead on figuring out what's the best way forward. The key thing here, Steve, we have to delay getting involved further militarily. It will destroy our military power projection for a generation and it will take our economy down and it will hand the Democrats all the power they want in November if we do anything more than we've already done militarily.
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A
And you, and you were pretty convinced that President Trump, if, if we didn't have this, what just popped up here over the last hour, that the military had a hammer that was going to definitely drive some nails into the, into the plank tonight. I mean, they were, if they were called upon, they were, they were prepared to go and go.
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D
They were lined up. They were lined up. And it looked like, just looking at what I was seeing on open source, that B52s, we don't know what the B2s were doing. I'm sure they were involved. But my understanding is we committed our entire, and this was very irresponsible on our part. We committed our entire jassm, er, long range missile arsenal to this fight, which are key weapons for deterring China. And they're very hard to replace because they're very complex and expensive. So I'm very glad we desisted from this because I thought that was a very dangerous prospect. But yes, we were prepared. And the problem also though is that had we done the strikes on the oil and electrical grids as Brian was talking about before I joined, the fact is the Iranians have capabilities both in the cyber domain as well as fifth columnist here in the United States. Thank you Mr. Biden. Who are prepared to launch in kind attacks on our vulnerable electrical grid, even physical attacks on our electrical grid with guns taking out these substations. So I am glad we are avoiding this because the Iranians I do not believe will initiate an attack like that unless they are attacked first.
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A
Brandon, where do people go to get your content, your podcast, all of it?
- [47:52]
D
You can go to Natsack Talk on Rumble. You can check me out on the NATSEC Guymerald TV and check me out at we the Brandon on Twitter X my books are on Amazon.com
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A
Shadow War is a great book if you want to learn about the long struggle of the United States in the moolahs. Thank you sir.
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D
Appreciate you later guys.
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A
Brian Kennedy, you have done a ton of work over the last decade or so about the electric grid and vulnerabilities. Does Brandon concern you when he says, hey, there are guys here, fifth columnist and others sleeper cells which seem to be pretty sleepy right now because nothing's popped up or at least nothing that the FBI has told us about or authorities have told us about. Are you particularly concerned about that? And I should add right now because the engine room reminds me before we leave the air, I don't believe we've heard from the Iranian jet. All I'm saying is that earlier today when these things kind of went around this thing, the Iranians came out and they couldn't have been more up in your grill. We've cut off any type of one on one. We're not negotiating. We got 15,000 missiles and 45,000 drones we've built up over 20 or 30 years and we're winning. You want to fight? Let's get it on. So we haven't heard from the Persians yet. I might add. We've got a minute or two. Bryant, your thoughts on the vulnerability of the United States here in our grid?
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B
Well, we've been talking about this with the committee on the present danger. China and I have separately for quite some time. You can take one of these large transformers of ours and physically destroy one using automatic rifle fire. We have found that various times in the United States we also get most of our transformers, by the way, from communist China. And there's also the possibility that communist China, we know communist China has built into many of those transformers the ability to hack into them and turn them off or disable them. So we certainly have to be worried about that. I should say though, Steve, that one thing I disagree with Brandon about is the ability of the United States to project power. We have a great military. We've seen that time and again. We also have a great country that can be a manufacturing power again. And if some of that is building the kind of material and munitions that make sure that we remain free and capable of defending our interests both at home and abroad, we ought to be setting about today to do that. We have to make sure we have the industrial capacity here in the United States to make sure we can defend ourselves with all the, all the missiles, all the other military systems that are required for our national defense. And that's one thing that the administration is set on doing. We have to be much more serious about that and take that, take that much more seriously right now.
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A
Bryant, where do people go to get your content? Sir? Keep up with you.
- [50:48]
B
Thank you, Steve. Present danger china.org is the website on X. It's Brian T. Kennedy one. And on getter and Truth Social it's Brian T. Kennedy. Thank you, Steve, for, for having me on today.
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A
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