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WarRoom Battleground EP 986: Angela Merkel Let In 1m Syrians And Transformed Europe — Spain Set To Double That with 2m INVADERS
WarRoom Battleground EP 986: Angela Merkel Let In 1m Syrians And Transformed Europe — Spain Set To Double That with 2m INVADERS...
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going
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medieval on these people.
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You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
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MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul,
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I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
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Good evening, Harnwell. Here at the helm of Steve Bannon's War Room, regular War Room viewers will realize straight away that it's not the usual Rome backdrop. Behind me, that's London, the capital of my beloved homeland. I'm back in the UK on assignment, just about finishing my work and returning to Italy in a couple of days time. One of the things that the International Bureau has been watching quite closely over the last few days is the news coming out of Spain. And as we've discovered on the show, as we discussed on the show for quite a couple of occasions, is the inverted commas regularization of around 500,000 illegal third world invaders into Spain by the socialist government headed up by Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez. And lo and behold, even that colossally high figure seems to have been an underestimation. Latest reports are putting the actual figure at something like 1.6, 1.6 and a half, 1.7 million people are going to be profiting from, from this amnesty. And as we said on the show repeatedly, and the danger is that once these invaders come in and get their residency permit, then they're going to be free to travel right across the European Union. And worse than that, once they read and they get their documents, they're then going to be able to bring in their family as well. And of course, once they're regularized, it's a chain reaction on the show today. Gonzalo Martin, who's been on the show quite a few times with us before to help navigate this, the vice president of the National Democracy Party in Spain, Democracia Nacional Gonzalo, thank you very much for coming on the show, spending the next hour or so to go through this. Tell me, if you wouldn't mind, what's in the background of this latest revision of the statistics Somehow even that 500,000 figure is now considered to be too low. What's the story and what I saw, I've seen something in El Pais national newspaper in Spain about this. What's the resonance taking place in Spain right now? Because this, this number, let's before, and before I hand over to this number, will fundamentally change the social fabric of Spain and the rest of the European Union. Lest we forget that the entrance of 1 million Syrians into Germany fundamentally changed politics right across the European Union under Angela Merkel. This is an even larger number. What's the reaction in Spain to these latest developments on the revised estimates?
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Well, unfortunately, Spanish citizens are still, I don't know, thinking about other not important stuff. They are just divided between the two main parties. They are playing this democratic game and they don't understand that we are really in a point that there is no return. Because Spain, as I told already in your program a few times, probably from 49 million people living officially in Spain, only only 35 million are native Spanish. The rest of people, they are all immigrants that they were born here, or they got Spanish citizenship, or they just kept their own citizenship. And in this, the last revision that they are trying to regularize, officially half million immigrants, in fact, the number is much bigger. It can be even up to 2 million. Because these people, they are coming, as I said already a few times, especially from South America, easily to Spain through the airport. They don't need to come by boat, they just need to have a flight ticket. They come straight to Madrid as a tourist officially and they never come back. Why? Because the Spanish constitution allow this. We have this kind of commonwealth with all the party, all the countries that were once part of the Spanish Empire, and all the citizens, they can just come to Spain from Philippines, from Brazil, from all South America, they can just come to Spain as a tourist and they stay here. And of course, we have already around 12 million of South Americans living in Spain. So they have already many relatives living here. So they have come here and it's very easy. There are many NGOs, leftist NGOs paid with our taxes that, that they allow all the process and they even publicly pay advertising to say, if you want to regularize the situation, please contact us. So it's not only this government, the NGOs and even the Catholic Church is helping to do this. And if you are a member of a Catholic Church, that's pretty common in Spain, in your neighborhood, that people who gather to the church, they are members of WhatsApp chat, for example, they Are all, all the time, every day I can say even hundreds of messages of people that they arrived to Spain and they need to do, they need to find a plane to stay. They are coming with children, many of them, they are disabled, they don't have a job, they don't have papers. And these are truly invasion. It's not only this last year, as I explained already in your program, we are suffering this since 1995, when, when in Spain we have only half million immigrants and now we have officially around 7, 8. But many of them, they go to Spanish citizenship. So they disappear from the statistics and many others. They were born here. So as I said, From 49 million, officially we are probably just 35 million native Spanish. And all these immigrants, they commit 500% more of rapes regarding Spanish natives and 414 more murders. So these statistics, of course they are avoid to talk about this in public because it's too dangerous for them, because they want to regalize all these immigrants in order to have both voters.
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Well, we're going to head down to the impact on the crime statistics a little later on the show, I think in the second half of the show. But you said something quite interesting there and important, that the figures here that I have in front of me having the shocking upward revision from 500,000 to about 1.7 million. Now you're suggesting that the 1.7 million figure in itself is too low and the true accurate figure is closer to 2 million. And you also point out that Spain really is this time definitively approaching the point of no return. Tell me a bit more, if you wouldn't mind, about the role of the Catholic Church in all of this. This is something that we point out constantly on the War Room, that the institutional Catholic Church, and I'm not talking about ordinary mass goers on Sunday and who are very devout and they attend mass, they pray the rosary and what have you. I'm talking about the institution of the church, the priests, the bishops, the cardinals and the Pope. It cannot be stressed enough that in this existential threat that is the invasion, the Catholic Church isn't even being, it's not even trying to hide its role anymore in encouraging and facilitating the invasion. You mentioned this, Gonzalo. Tell us a bit more. Remind the war room audience exactly the role that the Catholic Church is playing in Spain with the imminent arrival of 200 million invaders who are about to be regularized with official papers and residency.
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So the Catholic Church receives 100 thousands of millions of euros from the Spanish taxes. When you declare Your taxes, you can choose if you want to give part of your taxes to the NGOs or the Catholic Church. Still most part of Spaniards, because we still be in a Catholic country in general, most part of people, they don't donate part of the taxes to the Catholic Church. And with this money, it's not ongoing just to renovate old churches that we have, thousand years old. No, no. This money is going for immigrants, but not even Christian immigrants. You can just go to any church, in any neighborhood, in any small village in Spain that they are giving with our taxes and hundreds and hundreds of kilos of food every day to people that are supposed to be needed. And most part of them, you can see they're Muslims. You can see Muslim women cover it with the nihab and they go to the Catholic Church to get the food for free. And that's all. And when they don't like something or they figure out that there is something not halal or something with the pork, they destroy to the garbage close to the church. And there are many videos about this on YouTube. You can take a look about that. And also there are many old people that they have a good heart. And before they die, they donate the apartment, the house, everything to the church. And all these houses instead of being preserved for younger Spaniards that need it, they give it to these NGOs or even to Caritas, the main Catholic NGO to host immigrants. Muslim, they don't care. They bring all families and they give them everything. So Catholic Church, unfortunately, I'm a Catholic myself, but is one of the main enemies as an institution of the Spanish people and of the European people. They are really facilitating the invasion. And they are criticizing anybody who is saying something against immigration. They criticize you. They say that you are not a true Christian. They start to criticize you. They say that we have to have open borders. It has nothing to do with the traditional speech of the, of the Catholic Church.
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Something else that we cover constantly on the show is the, the revival that is taking place especially amongst young generation z Guys, young, 20 year old. So the guys basically who are rediscovering the Catholic faith for the first time, not just Catholic, but also sort of happening in evangelicalism in the United States as well. And something, Gonzalez, that we're talking about when we do our Wednesday show is the fact that these guys are coming to church for the first time in spite of the institutional church and the bishops and the priests, rather than because of anything that they're doing. And in all probability, as we, as we see this trend Develop, they're going to be scandalized out of the church very quickly. Tell me if you wouldn't mind, before we we move on to the themes in the show. How is dynamic taking place in Spain? I'm amazed to hear you telling me that people are, you know, in their wills are leaving their properties to the church basically for the, for the good of the, of. Of the Christian communities and, and, and Spaniards who have need and they're being used instead to facilitate this invasion that's taking place. Is there any local level of opposition outside of democracy et national, Is there any kind of organized opposition to what the institutional Catholic Church is doing directly in the space of faithful parishioners?
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Well, there is a rise of the traditional Catholic Church inside of the Catholic Church, all these letterbreaks, the traditionalists that they hold the mass in Latin is not the situation like in France. That is where you can find more and more traditional churches. But in Spain is rising and people approaching to the faith, people that they were atheist or they were soft Catholic, they cannot find anymore these answers to their spiritual questions and they are thirsty for knowing more about God. And when they go to the modern Catholic Church, what they just find is, is another kind of LGTBA ngo. So when people, they approach the church and they see all this speech and they see what is happening in the neighborhoods that they are invaded and then the church is not helping, is saying that we have to accept everybody, even Muslims, and nobody's illegal and blah, blah, blah. Some of these people, I cannot say the majority, but many of them, they are approaching this traditional church where the masses in Latin, for example. So there's a kind of contra revolutionary movement. As I say, it's not a situation like in France where you can find thousands and thousands of families with 10, 15 children going to church. In Spain we didn't arrive to that level, but people that they are approaching the faith, they are doing it more in a traditional way. Also people that are members of the modern Catholic Church, they are assuming a situation like many of us in our jobs, we have to suffer. So we cannot openly talk about immigration, for example. So they go to church, they go to mass, they help when there are depositions in the Holy Week, for example, but they keep what they think inside of them. Of course, when they talk with each other, they all agree that we have to preserve Christians in Spain. But with the priest, sometimes you cannot openly talk or there are some brothers that they correct you publicly and they don't allow you to talk about this. They say, oh, this is not Christian. This is not the message of Jesus and it's not true. Of course we know it's not true. So we have to be careful Catholics inside of the Catholic Church in order not to have problems. But more and more people are openly talking about this and they don't care anymore about what the rest of people think.
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That's the best development that we can hope for in the present age. Because whilst the evangelical community is perhaps the most visibly strongest in the United States, the defense of Christendom in continental Europe falls pretty much squarely on the shoulders of traditional Catholics who, you know, as time goes on, the more they're going to, as you're saying, Gonzalo, they're going to have the courage to stand up publicly and say, I'm Catholic, I am motivated by my Catholic faith, and I'm going to publicly criticize the institution of the Catholic Church for promoting this invasion. And, and I will criticize my own church not because I'm anti Catholic, but because I am Catholic. And that is a trend that we are definitely starting to see. And largely I would suggest it's thanks to social media. Gonzalez, stay with us. I'll be back to you in two minutes. Just going to give out a quick shout out to one of the show's sponsors, Birch Gold. So folks, think about this. Back in 2006, if you had bought, say with $20,000 or so gold at spot price, you would have ended up putting your hands on around 33 ounces back in those prices of 20 years ago. Well, if you'd have held on to that, that gold and sold it today, you would sell it at a price of spot price of 165. And that's why smart Americans are diversifying a portion of their savings into precious metals. And that's why you do need to consider buying gold from our friends at Birch Gold Group. For thousands of years, gold has been a store of wealth and today it's a crucial part of any balanced strategy. Even better, Birch Gold can help you convert an existing IRA or 401k into a tax sheltered retirement account in gold. So just text the name Bannon. That's B A double N O N to the number 989-898 to receive your free info kit on gold. There's no obligation whatsoever and just tons of useful information with an A plus rating with the Better Business Bureau and tens of thousands of of happy customers. Let Birch Gold help you diversify with gold. Text Bannon once again to 989-898 Bannon b a n o n 2989898 back now to Gonzalo Martin. Gonzalo, I was noticing that a very key and influential pro invasion lobbyist group in Brussels, the heart of the European Union, was saying quite explicitly and openly that we hope more governments will follow Spain's example. This is with regards to the amnesty. So, as you know, you have other countries that might easily want to replicate this or Spain's doing, Greece, France, Italy, for example. What is the realization in Spain that this maneuver, maneuver on behalf of Pedro Sanchez will have massive ramifications throughout the European Union? Not just in the sense that this 1.7 to 2 million people would then be able to freely disperse across the European Union, but the fact that the European Union will be able to cite the this maneuver being pulled by Spain's socialist government and do the same sort of amnesty in their own European countries. Is there any real recognition of this thin end of the wedge, as you say in colloquial English, in Spain, that this is a maneuver that will have massive responsibilities for the other EU nations were they to replicate this?
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Yes, this is very dangerous. I mean, Pedro Sanchez is trying to become the leader of the left of European left, not only in international affairs, that is publicly being like the public number one enemy of Trump, for example, but also about all these policies. He's trying to be, because in Spain, as you know, he's the president of the government in Spain, but he didn't win the elections. He had to have a coalition, the votes from the rest of parties, radical left, separatists. So he didn't win the elections. He's not so popular as people think. The support of him, the way he's now the president of Spain is because he gathered the votes of other parties more radically than the Socialist Party, more anti Spanish, even the Socialist Party. So yes, of course, everybody in Europe that is afraid of the alt right is afraid of the radical nationalists. They see Pedro Sanchez the leader that Europe needs and he's encouraging him to make more and more radical things. And of course, it's not affecting all in Spain. It will affect everybody in Europe and not only European Union. These people that they're entering in Europe, you know that they will try to arrive to the uk so this situation, this open border policy and everything, he's doing very fast before next elections in Spain because he's afraid that he will lose the election. So he's trying to, even with abortion, he will try to modify the Spanish constitution, what is very difficult to do, but he will try in order to make abortion, for example, a legal right, a constitutional right. So he's doing many, many things very fast because he knows that the new wave of nationalism or patriotism in Europe is coming and it will also erase the Socialist Party. So yes, all the leftists in Europe and all these soft democrats, they take him as an example what to do against people like us that we want to defend our nation and our culture.
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Gonzale, let me put the quote to you and then we'll come on with this point that you're making about what's going on in Brussels on the wider European Union. And I want to cite the quote directly to that. The warring posse can perhaps tap this into their search engines and do their own research and reading on this, because absolutely true, as horrific as it sounds, but this Brussels based platform for international cooperation on undocumented migrants called PCUM P I C U M they put out a statement with this quote today. This was a couple of weeks ago, but it's referring that the decision on behalf of the Sanchez government to regularize the then cited 500,000, now we're talking about 2 million people. The decision by the Spanish government to adopt a broad regularization measure is a powerful reminder that regularization is not only possible, it works and it's the right thing to do. That was a statement put out by Letizia van der Vennet from Pekam. And I cite that because I want people to know, as terrifying as this is, there is this movement in Brussels representing the European left, as you're mentioning, of which Pedro Sanchez has wider ambitions. There is this movement to take this precedent that some people suggest is actually even against European Union law. But to take this precedent and replicate it in other EU nations. Just two minutes, Gonzalez, before we head to the break, tell me about your own party, the Democracy and National and your European colleagues across across the eu. I know you, you mentioned this briefly when you were last on the show. But remind me what you and your, your European colleagues in Europe are doing to try to bring pressure on the Spanish government not to go through with this measure. Because as we said before, just remind folks at home, the government, the Spanish government doesn't even have the arithmetic to push this through. They're going to do it via royal decree without any vote in Parliament whatsoever because it doesn't have the numbers. That's how, that's how precarious the situation is. Tell me just very briefly, Gonzalo, what you guys are doing to try to stop this at the last moment from taking place.
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Well, we are very active in social media although we are banned from most part of them. But when we have the possibility, we reach many young people. Last demonstrations we organized in Madrid along with other political parties or movements. Political movements. We gather many, many young people. Young people, they are coming back to the tradition now to be punct is to be nationalist.
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So this is what we are trying to do.
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We're trying that young people, they understand that this is the future that we are fighting for. We are fighting for the future of the younger generation, but also for the
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legacy of our ancestors.
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What we are doing, we are organizing demonstrations, we are organizing also conferences trying to teach people about geopolitics. That is not so simple like people think that is the Christians against Muslims, for example. It's not so, it's not so easy, it's more complicated. And we try to pressure not only Socialist party of course, but we try to pressure this alt right party vox that he become more radical because we need that they are in the government where they are presence in the regional government. They do something to stop this invasion. So our ideas are already spread in whole Spain. Nobody talk about this. Just 20 years ago when we had one of the first slogans stop invasion and now they stopped by this box, this alright party. So this is what we are doing, a kind of lobby. We are trying to reach the people that we can because we are never invited to official mass media and we are never invited to the tv. If there is a debate, they will never take us to a debate about immigration. They will take some fake control opposition. Because of course people, if they listen what we say is so clear, so simple, they will understand it and they will say like what is exactly what I think and they will never allow this.
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Gonzalo, stay with us. We'll continue this chat in just two minutes after this short commercial break.
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Well, welcome back. As I was saying just in the first half of the show, and I just want to set the scene here. Ten years ago, most of what the mainstream media calls the far right, the political far right across the EU was on say 2, 3% on a country by country basis. And now the far right vote is around 20, 25% across the EU. And that's a consequence of the invasion almost exclusively. It's a consequence of people saying to themselves that they, that they don't care if the mainstream media and the establishment and the points, the official points of authority say, you know, you're racist, you're white nationalist, and they come out with all these pejoratives to scare people off. And which had always before now scared people off. People are now at the point when they see the invasion and the consequences, the crime on their doorstep, they say, whatever. You call me that, whatever, but I'm going to vote for these parties which you guys hate because they're the last hope that we have in order to reclaim our country. And 10 years ago was when Angela Merkel led in 1 million Syrians and obviously they dispersed across the EU and that's what fundamentally changed the political landscape across the European Union. And what we are talking now, what Gonzalo Martin, the deputy leader of National Democracy in Spain, democracy at Nacional. What Gonzalo is sharing with you today, and it's the first time I've seen these figures mentioned estimated so high is not 1 million third world invaders coming to the European Union is 2 million. So if the entrance of 1 million people took the hated far right votes from 3% to 23%, letting in another 2 million, will catastrophically fundamentally change the political landscape of the, of the Open Union. And that's not a bad thing. Now, when I said that people see the consequences of this in terms of crime on their doorstep and Gonzalo himself was mentioning some of these statistics earlier on the show. Let's have another look at them again here because these are horrific. This is a report from a couple of months ago that found that foreigners make up already over 30% of Spain's prison population and they commit per capita 500% more rapes and 414% more murders than Spanish citizens. And by that Spanish citizens terminology, as Gonzalo Martin was explaining to us earlier on the show, you're already talking about people who are foreign born, incorporated with official papers into Spain. And I don't want to perhaps say with great reservation, but if you actually compare these figures of foreigners to those of ethnic Spaniards rather than those who just have the Spanish passports, then you're going to find these figures are even higher. Tell me Gonzalo, what is the reaction in Spain to these statistics? You were saying earlier that in the face of these 2 million people that are preparing their suitcases to come in and to flood to overrun Spain, people are wandering around in a dreamlike state and they're not really confronting the reality of what is going to happen. What is their reaction though to the crime on their doorsteps?
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Well, as you said people, they are less afraid to talk publicly about their opinions and what they see in the street. And many people, when the journalists, they go to this kind of neighborhood with all these invaders, they are already 90% of population and they interview people in the streets sometimes they are old people that they confess they were always communist and now they are close to people like us, to our ideas, because they see the reality. And it's not what the TV is saying. It's true that The Spanish people, as a nation, we are usually reacting a little bit late, but when we do, you have to be ready. The same happened in Spain in 1808, when we were invaded by Napoleon, who was supposed to be an ally. And people saw all these French troops inside of Spain. And people start to doubt that they were allies, they were like more invaders. And it took a while till people decide to go in the streets and fight them. And even the Spanish army, they were traitors. They had orders to not fight Napoleon.
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So.
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So we have always this hope of the last moment of Spanish people fighting and finally rebelling against the situation. It's true that now people see because the salaries are so low in Spain, like a waiter working in a restaurant in Madrid will not earn more than €1,200, Neto. And this is the same salary a waiter is receiving since 2005. So then you see that the prices are like 30% higher, the inflation is crazy, and then you are getting the same salary. Why is that? Of course, because the market is totally destroyed. But all this cheap labor that is coming, and they said any kind of job, and people, they start to see this. And people, they have, they struggle to arrive to the end of the month and to pay the bills and to pay the mortgage. So it's sad that we have to talk about money. And because of economic reasons, people start to be a little bit more aware of what is happening. But still there is no concept of tribe of we are Spaniards, we own our lands. We are living here since thousands and thousands of years. We are native to this land. We are the true native people, the true native population of Spain. And we have the right to decide what happened in our land. Still, not many people have this feeling, because as Spain was a poor country, country the end of the 19th century, due to the French invasion, the loss of the Spanish empire, in the beginning of the 20th century, there were many millions of Spanish people that were migrating to South America, for example. And there is this speech from the left saying, we're also immigrants, we're also going to Venezuela or Argentina. Yes, the situation was much different. People from Spain, they were not raping, they were not murdering, they were working, they were paying taxes, and they were not making problems at all. They were not making progress. In France, more than 2 million Spaniards were living there after the civil war, we were not making problems in Germany, there were half a million maybe of Spaniards working back then. So the situation is not the same. But we still have this complex that we were a poor country. We also had Millions of Spaniards abroad, working in other countries, and there is always this sentence, people say, well, as long as they come legally or they work legally, we don't care anymore. There's no room for everybody. We don't care if they come with papers, without papers, we don't care if they speak Spanish, if they have a cross on the chest. We don't care anymore because it's a true invasion and we want to send them back all to the homeland.
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Some of what you were saying there you hear in Italy in the debate here in the same words, it's the same thing that they're putting out in Italy, the pro immigration lobby that Italians themselves have had emigrated from Italy in great numbers. And therefore it's something. How hypocritical to say no to people who want to come and live in Italy. Look, we're going to move on and discuss in just a few moments the President Trump factor in Spain right now, because I know this is something important and we'll cover that. But before we do that and we make that pivot, I just want to say that from time to time, President Trump does touch the third rail in the immigration debate. I don't know whether he's serious that he, he would ever practically do something, but he has suggested from time to time removing the citizenship from people who have come into America. Is there any debate in Spain or at least within your own movement, are the same thing you've talked about earlier in the first half of the show. The huge numbers of people that have come to Spain beforehand and have been naturalized, have received Spanish citizenship. Is there any debate, or at least within your own movement of democracy and national, to go through the books, look at how much people are contributing in terms of their taxes and if they're not contributing anything, to strip them of their citizenship and send them back.
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Well, in Democracy national, we defend the right of blood, the youths and Guinness. So if you don't have Spanish blood, you are not Spanish. That's all. You cannot have the Spanish citizenship. Then you cannot apply to any public job. You cannot apply for any kind of help from the Spanish government. This is what we defend in the Spanish parliament. The spectrum of the official political parties, including this alt right party called vox, for example, the debate is that terrorists or thieves, this will be sent back to the country, or some people that got Spanish citizenship, but they are involved in terrorism, this will be sent to the party, to the country. But there is not a debate like we should send back millions of them. We didn't arrive to that point, they are too afraid to talk about this. But this is the overtone window. We will arrive to that point. To that point, as 25 years ago were the first to say stop invasion against illegal immigration. Nobody was saying that. Then they copied. So they go always like 10 years, 15 years later. Because of course they are afraid that the people will vote for a political party like us. So they always try to content people, giving them what they want, but slowly making the situation worse and worse. And of course all these millions of immigrants, they will vote sooner or later. And of course they will not vote for parties like my party.
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C
Thanks for that, Gonzalo. We'll come back and just discuss another factor that President Trump is having on Spanish politics. Now just two minutes. Quick shout out. However, if you are turning 65 or already on Medicare, listen up and grab a pen. Call 845-WAR-ROOM right now. I'm serious. Call it. And here's why. The insurance companies and their lackeys in the Washington swamp have built a Medicare system designed to confuse you and rip you off. Rising premiums, denied claims, fine print. Nobody but a lobbyist understands. Millions of American seniors are paying too much and getting too little and worth of all. Most don't even know it. That could be you. That's why if you're ready already on Medicare or will be soon, you need to talk to our friends at chapter. They have a team of advisors trained to serve American seniors, not the insurance companies. In under 20 minutes, they can find you the best plan for your needs at the lowest cost. It's totally free. No pressure whatsoever, no bs, just straightforward honest help from fellow patriots. So don't wait. Call 845 War Room right now. That's 845 War Room. And tell them that Bannon sends you. Okay, so Gonzalo, we've got about five minutes left before our time is fully run out. There has been something in the Spanish media here and I wonder if Denver would be kindly put up the fourth article on the screen. And this is the suggestion that Trump, President Trump is so unpopular right now, in part because of the war in Iran, unpopular in Spain, it's actually encouraging strengthening Pedro Sanchez's position. So instead of declining in popularity, he's actually getting an uptick of popularity. This would be what we would call the law of unintended consequences. But not from my lips. Let the war in posse hear from you how the, how the consequences of this war in Iran is taking place in the domestic Spanish political environment. Because this really ought to be the Grains of sand of political viability ought to be winning out for Sanchez. Instead he's getting a second win there. Just tell us what's happening.
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B
Yes, you are totally right. This is what is happening. Many people that they are considered themselves conservative or right wing supporters, they struggle now to support foreign affairs policies from the Trump administration because most part of people don't agree to have a war. We don't agree to have the NATO basement in Spain to send warships and planes to bomb Iran. That honestly is not an enemy, at least of the Spanish nation. So this is making Pedro Sanchez, as I said before, kind of Sanchez is being seen as the only, the only leader who is facing Trump. And this is very dangerous because as we were talking today, the policies of Pedro Sanchez, they are 100% anti European. He wants an invasion of Europe by immigrants. And if you are giving him so much power, being the only politician facing Trump, this is very bad. And what people see in Spain is that America is kidnaped 100% by Israel. And nobody can understand people, they start to ask these questions to themselves, Even a radical leftist that they are always, they were never, they were criticizing Israel, but they never wanted to have a debate about Israel because they, this is what the string right is doing. But of course people are saying like, why such a big and powerful country like America, the most powerful country in the world, is always supplied to go to every war that Israel want. It's like America is the dog of the master Israel. And this is what people start to see. It's so obvious now that Trump was so proud saying that he deserved the Peace Nobel Prize. And now he's starting a war against the interests of everybody, the interests of Europeans, the interests of Americans rising the prices of petrol so much that we are paying the consequences. And of course it's very unpopular. And then there is a leader who saw the situation and said, okay, I will be the one who is fighting the evil. And this is what is happening. People, they start to see Pedro Sanjev as the only leader who can face Trump, which is ridiculous. I presume that he was not even vote in Spain and he's the president only because he gathered all the votes from everybody who hates Spain inside of the Spanish parliament. So this is ridiculous. But this is the situation. Trump, he owes so much to all these Zionist lobby in America that were giving hundreds of millions of euros during the election campaign that now he's in debt with them. And this is the only, this is what people see in Spain, even people who are not so much involved in politics like I do, for example, they start to see this, why America is involved in all this Zionist interest. America has nothing to do with that. We don't want a war in the world. And American citizens, I'm sure they don't want it neither. And it's been very difficult to support Trump. I don't support Trump myself, but people who like Trump especially, alright supporters in Europe now, they start to see, like, how can I say that I like the policies of Trump while he's doing all these crazy things.
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C
No, I don't want to put words into your mouth, Gonzalez, but I do need to synthesize what you're saying here in an accurate and authentic way. Is it because what you're saying here is what I'm hearing because I'm in daily contact with countries across the European Union and pretty much what I'm hearing from you is what I'm hearing from the rest of our political colleagues on our side of the spectrum. Are you saying, are you drawing a straight line now and saying that the President's war in, President Trump's war in Iran, hand in hand with Israel, are you saying that the unintended consequence of that, in terms of the great openness that many people did have in continental Europe towards President Trump more widely up until very recently, the consequence of this war in Iran, not just to do with the high cost of living that we're now seeing in Europe, the consequence of this war is that it's going to be more difficult to stop the third world invasion in continental Europe. Are you seeing drawing a straight line between these two phenomena?
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B
Yes, exactly the same with the Syria war. There were all these Islamists were supported by the American intelligence, unfortunately. And by Israel, of course, like and Al Qaeda, we know that it was founded by the Mossad and also American secret services. And we had the consequences of the invasion of Europe already with millions of Syrians and not only Syrians. And yes, of course they are trying to get a situation that all these people will invade Europe because every time there is a war in Middle east, the people who pay the consequences are Spain. I mean, are the Europeans. They are not Americans. We are the ones suffering the invasion from the wars that Israel is telling America to get involved in. This is ridiculous. No, why America is getting involved in wars that has nothing to do with, with their interests, only to support a tiny state of 7 million inhabitants. This is the main point.
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C
Councillor, that is the end of the show. And I'm grateful for sharing your perspective on the geopolitical situation here. And its impact on European politics. People need to hear that you are a great patriot. Where do people go to learn more about democracy national and to see how they might potentially even support you?
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B
Yes, they can Visit our website democratinational.org they can follow us in Telegram. We have a channel very active in Twitter and we public all these. We publish all these things that nobody will find in the mass media in Spain. And we are pioneers talking about immigration since 1995. We are preventing Europeans about this invasion. We're suffering.
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C
Gonzalo Martin, deputy leader of Democracy and Napier, thank you very much as always for coming on the show. My thanks to Kyle and his great team at Real America's Voice in Denver and to Vittorio Santi Franco, who put this show together.
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A
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