WarRoom Special Coverage: Trump’s Mission To Israel

Summary

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WarRoom Special Coverage: Trump’s Mission To Israel

Podcast: Bannon’s War Room
Date: October 13, 2025
Theme: President Donald Trump leads a historic mission to Israel, facilitating a breakthrough ceasefire, the release of hostages, and setting the stage for a broader Middle East peace deal.

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Episode Overview

This episode covers President Donald Trump’s high-stakes visit to Israel, marking the end of a devastating war and the beginning of a potentially transformative regional peace process. As hostages are released and crowds rejoice across Israel, Bannon and his assembled panel—reporting live from Jerusalem, Rome, Los Angeles, and Washington—analyze the implications, political undercurrents, and international maneuvering surrounding this “Jerusalem Accord.”

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Key Segments & Discussions

The Historical Moment: Trump’s Arrival & Hostage Releases

• [01:54] Steve Bannon opens, setting a dramatic tone: “President of the United States about to arrive in Jerusalem on Air Force One to meet Netanyahu, welcome hostages back, and address the Israeli nation at the Knesset.”
• [03:24] Matt Farace (live, Jerusalem): Describes emotional scenes and nationwide anticipation; emphasizes that “everyone has been impacted,” likening it to a “family rejoicing.”
• [05:37] Farace relates personal stories of loss: “A rabbi I know…thought his son was alive inside Gaza for 10 months only to find out later he had been killed on October 7th.”
• [06:25] Discussion of mixed emotions: joy for the hostages, anxiety about reported violence in Gaza as IDF steps back.

Regional Dynamics & Peace Threats

• [07:16] Joel Gilbert (Los Angeles): Warns that while Israel “gets to celebrate today,” forces at the upcoming Egypt peace conference aim to extract political concessions and push for a Palestinian state.
• [09:27] Contrasts Netanyahu's declared goals (“release the hostages,” “disarm Hamas”) with what international coalitions seek—disarmament of Hamas remains doubtful.
• [13:00] Gilbert critiques the “fundamental misunderstanding” between Western and Islamic values regarding peace and sovereignty, suggesting temporary celebrations often precede political disappointment for Israel.

Trump’s Press Gaggle on Air Force One (Extended Segment)

• [15:38 – 25:40] Donald J. Trump fields questions:
  • Middle East Peace vs. Government Shutdown:
    “This has been going on for 3,000 years… This is a lot tougher.”
    (Trump, [15:44])
  • Public Sentiment:
    “Everybody is happy, whether it's Jewish or Muslim or the Arab countries, every country is dancing in the streets.”
    (Trump, [16:39])
  • Definitive End to War:
    “War is over. The war is over. Okay? Do you understand that?”
    (Trump, [17:36])
  • Ceasefire Stability:
    “The ceasefire is going to hold. … People are tired of it. It's been centuries.”
    (Trump, [17:49])
  • On Gaza Redevelopment:
    “They're going to have to start by removing a lot of the structures … You have to get rid of what you have there … that process is going to start pretty much immediately.”
    (Trump, [18:49])
  • Board of Peace & Global Buy-in:
    “Everybody wants to be a part of it. I've had calls from all of the leaders … The leaders themselves, they're not going to send somebody. They want to be a part of it.”
    (Trump, [20:09])
  • Verbal Guarantees:
    “We have a lot of verbal guarantees, too, and I don't think they're going to want to disappoint me.”
    (Trump, [20:55])
  • Hamas as Interim Police:
    “We gave them approval for a period of time … They’ve lost probably 60,000 people. That's a lot of retribution.”
    (Trump, [21:26])
  • Credit for the Peace Deal:
    “Everybody knows that's a joke … This should have never happened. That was weak leadership, terrible.”
    (Trump, [23:11], dismissing Biden Admin’s claims of credit)
  • Comparisons with Biden:
    “If a decent president was in, you wouldn't have had the Russia, Ukraine. … This was bad policy by Biden and by Obama.”
    (Trump, [23:24])
  • Relationship with Netanyahu:
    “Very good. He just put me up for the Nobel Prize. … He was the right person at this time.”
    (Trump, [24:45])

Political & Religious Symbolism in Israel

• [11:13] Jack Posobiec:
  “There are posters now going up in Jerusalem … saying that Cyrus the Great has returned. … It's nothing short of biblical.”
• [29:26] Farace:
  “Tel Aviv is by American standards a blue city. … President Trump is somebody in Israel that transcends the traditional political lines because he's a friend and done such great things for Israel.”

Panel Analysis: Risks, Realities, Motivations

• [30:56] Posobiec:
  “Trump reaffirming America’s role … but not doing so in a way that with the neoconservatives, where it’s through conquest … but through direct one-on-one diplomacy. … Not just for the United States, but for the world.”
• [35:54] Kurt Mills:
  “He basically said [Netanyahu]’s a wartime president, leaving open Netanyahu's future in this entire thing. … He wants this to be finito, that he wants this to be the last word on the subject … He doesn’t want to be making a third trip to the region.”
• [49:24] Posobiec & Bannon:
  Ongoing references to Trump’s “Cyrus the Great” image and the profound religious/historical associations attached to his visit.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Trump on Peace & Leadership:
  “This is the first time they’ve ever seen where everybody is unified. ... Everybody’s into it—it’s never happened before.”
  (Trump, [16:39])

• On Historic Grievances:
  “People are tired of it. It’s been centuries, okay? ... If it normalizes, that would be fantastic.”
  (Trump, [17:49] and [19:28])

• Bannon’s Critique of Israeli Security/Coalition:
  “I just think it looks very shoddy … there’s been two assassination attempts on this guy. He’s all we got, right?”
  (Bannon, [115:03])

• Joel Gilbert on Political Risks:
  “I see nothing but dangers ahead … All the Gulf states, Turkey, Egypt, Macron, … they’re going to stack the deck to make sure Israel is politically defeated and set the stage for the creation of a Palestinian state in Gaza.”
  (Gilbert, [188:36])

• Bannon on Trump’s Role:
  “For all his flaws, he’s what we have between ourselves and in the abyss.”
  (Bannon, [168:00])

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Important Timestamps & Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|-------------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:54 | Bannon sets the stage; emotional national anticipation | | 03:24 | Farace on collective trauma and enthusiasm across Israel | | 07:16 | Gilbert warns of international efforts to force Israeli concessions| | 15:38–25:40 | Trump’s press gaggle: definitive statements on war/peace | | 29:26 | Farace on Trump’s cross-partisan support in Israel | | 49:24 | Panels discuss “Cyrus the Great” symbolism | | 83:29 | Trump’s approach: against neocon foreign policy, pragmatic deals | | 125:47 | Farace describes shofar (“ram’s horn”) celebration in Jerusalem | | 128:54 | Sheva Balkani: “The feeling in Jerusalem today is unbridled jubilation.”| | 133:06 | Joel Gilbert: On dangers of prisoner exchange and Hamas’ strategy | | 138:17 | Bannon: “Israel is not an ally ... they’re a protectorate.” | | 161:03 | Dave Brat: “Peace ... reliant on one man... the transparency may propel a hard peace.” | | 188:36 | Gilbert: “I see nothing but dangers ahead ... setting up Israeli election next year where electorate has to decide between peace ... and [security].” |

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Key Insights and Takeaways

1. Massive Emotional and Symbolic Shift

• The Israeli public views Trump as a historic, almost messianic figure ("Cyrus the Great"), credited with achieving what decades of U.S. presidents could not: uniting parties for a peace deal and returning hostages.

2. Political Risks & Fragile Peace

• Commentators warn the peace is extremely fragile. International coalitions may leverage Israel’s weakened position to force concessions, including the groundwork for a Palestinian state.
• Trump claims verbal (not written) guarantees and global buy-in but panelists express skepticism on long-term enforcement and the true intentions of players in Egypt (Saudis, Qataris, Turkey).

3. Structural Changes in U.S.–Israel Relations

• Bannon: “Israel is a protectorate, not an ally.” U.S. direct involvement and “Board of Peace” architecture signals a new, more directive U.S. approach.
• Trump signals he’s not interested in further military engagement.-- “If Israel were to do something after this, the President would not be there.” (Posobiec, [71:56])

4. Human Impact and Public Sentiment

• Hostage families’ trauma is front and center. The focus on their stories (Trump meeting them privately for over an hour) becomes a symbol of empathy and the cost of conflict.

5. Historic First Step, Uncertain Path Forward

• The “Jerusalem Accord” is widely seen as a proto–two-state solution—with Gulf money and Turkish security, and a U.S.-chaired peace board—but details are “soft around the edges” and subject to political sabotage.

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Panel’s Closing Thoughts

• Gilbert: “I see nothing but dangers ahead ... Gulf states are putting together a political movement to demand a Palestinian state in Gaza, West Bank, and Jerusalem. ... The Israeli electorate will have to choose between this vision of peace and security.”
• Bannon: “For all his flaws ... he’s what we have between ourselves and the abyss.”
• Kurt Mills: “Trump is speaking to the world today ... making clear this is his line in the sand. ... It would be a humiliation if … our alleged allies immediately broke this deal.”
• Ben Harnwell: “Justice is being done and Bibi is no longer calling the shots over a U.S. administration. ... The graciousness extended to the hostages’ families signals a realignment.”

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Summary Table: Key Stakeholders & Positions

| Stakeholder | Position / Motives | |----------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Trump/Admin | Broker, peace enforcer, seeks regional “Board of Peace,” heavy personal investment, wants finality | | Netanyahu | Reluctant, “wartime president,” appears politically weakened, less enthusiastic about full peace deal | | Hostage Families | Central to public emotion, demand peace and accountability | | Israeli Public | Jubilant over hostages/future, wary of cost and prisoner releases, hopeful but anxious | | Gulf/Arab States | Pushing for Palestinian state, big financial buy-in, seeking regional leverage | | Turkey | Arranging for Gaza security, assertive regional role | | U.S. Analysts/Panelists| Wary of “shambolic” logistics, critical of unresolved political undercurrents and Trump’s security |

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Final Note

As Trump prepares to address the Knesset, the panel underscores that today’s jubilation may mask deeper uncertainties. This is a “deal in motion”: the architecture for peace is being assembled under immense pressure, with global repercussions. The episode captures the weight, symbolism, and precariousness of this “history in real time”—celebrating breakthrough, but bracing for what comes next.

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For continued coverage:
Follow up with WarRoom.org at 10:00am for additional analysis of the Egyptian peace summit and the evolving post-ceasefire landscape.

Transcript

[Narrator/Announcer]

Dead of the night when the world is sleeping. Real America's Voice is live this Monday, 2am Eastern. History takes flight. Donald J. Trump arrives in Israel leading a high stakes mission for peace and the long awaited release of hostages. After months of war and heartbreak, a breakthrough, a ceasefire, hostage releases and the first steps towards a lasting Jerusalem accord. Steve Bannon leads Real America's Voice live coverage, joined by power voices from Jerusalem as the world watches this historic moment unfold. From conflict to compromise, from division to deliverance. This is leadership on the world stage. This is history in motion. This is real America's Voice. Rav presents Trump's triumphant mission to Israel. Live coverage begins this Monday at 2am Eastern only on Real America's Voice.

[Steve Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. There's not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

[Matt Farace]

And where do people like that go.

[Steve Bannon]

To share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

[Jack Posobiec]

War room here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

[Steve Bannon]

It's Monday the 13th of October in the year of our Lord 2025 is Columbus Day here in the United States of America. Of course, dramatic. Let's go ahead and put the footage, got some amazing footage of hostage square in Tel Aviv. You got, we got footage of Ream Air Force base where the hostages are actually currently seven have already been released. Also other spots in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. We are, we have with us this morning we're going to have Kurt Mills from the American Conservative, our own Ben Harnwell, international editor. Live in Rome, the great Jack Pos, pulling an overnight shift. Here with us, Joel Gilbert in Los Angeles, an expert filmmaker and expert on the Middle East. But I want to start with Matt Farace who's actually live in Jerusalem. Matt, put in context what this day. This is over a two year war coming off the most brutal slaughter the Jews have had since the Holocaust. Very contentious this war in Jerusalem, in Israel kind of torn about these, the nations torn apart really about the hostages and how the situation was handled, how the war is prosecuted. But what does today mean with the President of the United States about to arrive in Jerusalem on Air Force One to meet Netanyahu, welcome some hostages back, and then address the Israeli nation at the Knesset. Sir.

[Matt Farace]

Good morning, Steve. Great to be with you. We are here in Jerusalem on Jaffa Street. This place is going to be banging here in a bit. This is one of the sort of most busy places in Jerusalem where Israelis come. I was reminded this morning, Steve, what a small country this is and how everybody has been impacted by this. The camera operator that I'm working with this morning, we were looking at some of the hostages being released. And two of the guys are called the Berman twins, and he worked with them before, and he knows a lot of people in the company that they worked with, very respected guys. I've got family members who have said the same thing. They knew people that either got abducted on October 7th or got attacked or, you know, whatever happened. So it's really, if you want to think of it this way, Steve, it's a family rejoicing for what's happening today. They're excited. To say they're excited to have President Trump is perhaps the understatement of the century. So I'm trying to find a word that encapsulates how thrilled people are that President Trump is here. The streets are all gated off with extra security for the motorcade to be able to come down to the Knesset. So there is a lot of anticipation this morning, Steve, as you noted, as the hostages are being released. On the downside, there's a lot of violence being reported and videos being uploaded in Gaza now that Hamas temporarily has the IDF stepping back. They're shooting a lot of people and shooting these rival clans. And there's a lot of brutality taking place in Gaza right now.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah, it seems to be like these open clan wars and people collaborated. We're going to get to that in a minute. But here's the thing. I notice even CNN and BBC people, the news people, and even here at the war, a little bit overwhelming, the emotional reaction to this by the Israeli people. I mean, now it's like two or three days they've been in. They've been in Hostage Square in Tel Aviv. Throughout the nation. You see at Reem Air Force Base, thousands of people there to greet him. Were you anticipating it would be this. This emotional for the Israeli people?

[Matt Farace]

Yeah, I was. Because again, because everybody either knows a hostage or knows a soldier that died in Gaza or knows somebody that was impacted or has it in their family. I have friends that I've gone to synagogue with who? You know, a father who lost a son, a rabbi I know, who thought his son was alive inside Gaza for 10 months and only to find out later he had been killed on October 7th. So because everybody has been so closely impacted by this, because so many have been called up into the army over the last two years and have had to leave their jobs because so many families have been impacted, I think there's a collective family sigh of relief among the Jewish people today. And that's why you see the celebrating.

[Steve Bannon]

Matt just hang there. Matt Farachi is in Jerusalem for us. Let's go to Joel Gilbert. Joel, you're as close as it comes to being an expert in the area. You're a filmmaker, made many films about this. You're very you went to what the London College in London learned under some of the great scholars in the west, both Greek and Jewish, about Islam and political Islam. Your thoughts today? Because President Trump's coming. He's going to meet the hostages. Obviously, this is very important for him. President Trump is got a big heart, as I think people realize. But he's also going to address the Israeli people at the Knesset and then he's going to actually go to Egypt for this, I guess you call it a peace conference, which Netanyahu was not invited to, is what we understand. Your thoughts on this?

[Joel Gilbert]

My thoughts are that today Israel gets a bone. They get 20 hostages back, they get President Trump visiting Israel, which is a very emotionally reward for the Israeli people. But what's coming in Egypt, about four hours later this afternoon, we have an entire cabal of the Gulf Arabs, Turkey and Egypt, and even I believe the prime minister of England and Canada is coming. And their goal is to turn the end of this war into a political defeat for Israel, to make sure that Hamas and the Palestinian Arabs gained statehood, rebuilding of Gaza, and to put together a coalition that will demand that Israel withdraw from half of Jerusalem, the West bank and create a Palestinian state. So I think the forces are aligning politically in Sharm El Sheikh to try to bring about an Israeli political defeat from the end of this conflict. And they're also going to try to have elections in Israel next year, and they're going to try to turn this entire episode against Israel politically. That's what I see what's coming. But today is where Israel gets to at least celebrate before all these political developments, I think, start aligning against them.

[Steve Bannon]

You have, by the way, Macron is also coming. Keir Starmer, sir. Keir Starmer's coming and Macron is coming. If Macron's coming. You know, it's got to be bad news, right? I want to mention something. There's a gaggle on Air Force one. It's about 20 minutes long. We're going to try to break it down and play segments of it before I go to, before I go to Poso. Last night, Netanyahu addressed the nation through a video he made. And in a video he made, he said, hey, the Gaza part of this war is over, but the overall war continues on. He said this in Hebrew, and I think President Trump was asked about this on Air Force One, and he reiterated the war is over and he couldn't have been more definitive. What are your thoughts about this, what Netanyahu is telling the people in Israel in Hebrew versus President Trump's mindset about this?

[Joel Gilbert]

Well, Netanyahu stated early on and has consistently said that there are dual goals. One is to release the hostages and secondly is to disarm and dismantle Hamas and make sure that Gaza is no longer a threat to Israel. Now, this came about because Israel had the foolish idea that by turning over Gaza to the PLO to terrorist groups that peace would break out back in 2006. And they were woefully wrong. Now, Israel has said, okay, we were getting the hostages back. But I think that Hamas has no intention of disarming. I think Hamas is looking to do the Hezbollah model in Lebanon. Hamas doesn't want to govern anymore. They don't want to be in charge of governing, but they would like to be a heavily armed group that really controls everything and can still threaten Israel. I don't see any mechanism whatsoever that any international body is going to want to go into Gaza and disarm Hamas. So Bibi has kind of been cornered a little bit from the situation. Trump is saying, no, the war is over. You can't continue. But Bibi is not giving up on one of his main goals, which is Hamas will be disarmed and dismantled. So that's one of the conflicts that we're going to see coming out of this celebration is Hamas not going anywhere and the world aligning politically in Sharm El Sheikh to rebuild Gaza and demand a Palestinian state.

[Steve Bannon]

Joe, hang on for a second. Let's go to Jack Bosovic. Jack, you've been on many of these trips with the president. You followed this very closely from the beginning. You and I covered this live on the day that it happened, October 7th. It was a Saturday. Your thoughts this morning as we await the president arrival on Air Force One.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, Steve, this is nothing Short of historic, the scenes we're seeing are absolutely biblical. And there are posters now going up in Jerusalem that I'm seeing just go viral on social media saying that Cyrus the Great has returned. And they are raised referring to President Trump as Cyrus the Great. You see the crowds cheering there. The Persian leader who came in, but also was able to provide peace to this area, they viewed him as a liberator of liberating them from the Babylonians and seeing this new covenant, seeing this new deal that is being put in place. It's nothing short of biblical. It's nothing short of biblical. And I don't know how anyone who's a believer can be watching these scenes, can be seeing this all happening and not, not going back and brushing up on our, on our Old Testament. To say that it's, it's Nobel Prize worthy almost doesn't even do it justice to the magnamity of what we're seeing diminishes here.

[Steve Bannon]

Yes, Joel, I want to go back to you and get mad in here. What I say is this overwhelming emotional response. If you follow this region, we have kind of seen this before. Maybe not this intensity over the 20 hostages, but there have been other times where Israel, working with the Arab nations, working with the Muslim, have all parties, including the United States, which is trying to, has tried to be an intermediary for decades and decades and decades, think you had the framework for peace or think you have a peace deal. There's been big emotional reactions in Israel in the past and it just never pans out, does it?

[Joel Gilbert]

No, look, there's a. Still exists a vast misunderstanding of two cultures. Islamic culture, Islamic values versus Western culture and Western values. Israelis and supporters of the United States believe in these peace agreements and peace deals. I'll give you this piece of land and peace is going to break out. We'll live happily ever after. They fail to understand that Islamic goals and values cannot accept Jewish sovereignty over Palestine, cannot accept a Jewish state of any size. And the Arabs have been fighting militarily to defeat Israel and were unable to defeat it. And that's why I go into, in one of my films about how Anwar Sadat decided to wage a diplomatic strategy against Israel by offering Israel an embassy, essentially an office in a high rise building in Cairo in exchange for the Sinai. And he's tried to sell this model to the rest of the Arab world. The Egyptians saying, look, let's just all get together, we'll offer peace. You can have peace with us and withdraw from all these lands. And that would turn Israel into an indefensible country and people probably wouldn't want to live there because it couldn't be defended. So it's a different model for the same goal, which is to defeat and eliminate the Jewish state. And I think those are the forces that are going to quickly align in Sharm El Sheikh to demand that Israel create a Palestinian state. And this is the calm before the storm politically, because their goal is to politically defeat Israel as a result of this agreement.

[Steve Bannon]

I agree with you 100%. I think that there's no doubt that a proto two state solution will be basically agreed to this afternoon. Anyway, Joel Gilbert, Matt Farrachi in Jerusalem, the great Jack Bosovic working the overnight shift, Ben Harnwell in Rome and Kurt Mills all joining us here in the war room. Short break, back in a moment.

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[Joel Gilbert]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Kurt Mills]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Donald J. Trump]

This is a little bit more comfortable. I was a little, a little wet out there. Hello. Go ahead.

[Steve Bannon]

So, President Trump, what's harder, peace in the Middle east or ending a government shutdown?

[Donald J. Trump]

Well, I think the hardest is this. This has been going on for 3,000 years. The shutdown has only been for 10 days. So I think the shutdown, it's gotten to be almost customary, but we're taking care of it. We've got the military paid, in fact, and we're doing a lot of things. We're ending some programs that we don't want. They happen to be Democrat sponsored programs, but we're ending some programs that we never wanted and we're probably not going to allow them to come back. I think they made a mistake. I think they made a big mistake. This is really a Schumer shutdown because he's become sort of irrelevant and he wants to make himself relevant again.

[Steve Bannon]

And in terms of the politics of this historic peace deal that we're on the way to go sign right now, you would think it's good for everybody. But at a rally this weekend they were cheering for you and they were booing Netanyahu. What's up with that?

[Donald J. Trump]

I don't know, but we're going to make everybody happy. The one thing I can tell you is everybody is happy, whether it's Jewish or Muslim or the Arab countries, every country is dancing in the streets. And it's a point in time. I don't think you'd ever see it again. They've never seen it for 3,000 years. If you like one group, you don't like the other group, and if you like the other group, you don't like the first group. And this is the first time they've ever seen where everybody is unified, because, as you know, we're going to Egypt after Israel, and we're going to meet all of the leaders of the very powerful and big countries and very rich countries and others, and they're all into this deal. Everybody's into it never happened before. So I would say this is a lot tougher. But we'll see how it all works.

[Steve Bannon]

Mr. President, Benjamin Netanyahu, the Prime minister, has not gone so far as to say the war is over. In your view, is the war between Israel.

[Donald J. Trump]

War is over. The war is over. Okay? Do you understand that?

[Steve Bannon]

Mr. President, is the ceasefire going to hold?

[Joel Gilbert]

Are you confident?

[Steve Bannon]

Confident the ceasefire will hold?

[Donald J. Trump]

Say it.

[Steve Bannon]

Are you confident that the ceasefire is going to hold?

[Donald J. Trump]

I think so. I think it's going to hold. I think people are a lot of reasons why it's going to hold, but I think people are tired of it. It's been, it's been centuries, okay? Not just recent, it's been centuries. I think people are tired of it. Yeah, the ceasefire is going to hold.

[Steve Bannon]

And look like against them. Now, the international stabilization force, that's part of it.

[Donald J. Trump]

Good, strong force.

[Kurt Mills]

I don't think it's going to have.

[Donald J. Trump]

A big impact because I don't think I, I think barely we're going to have to use it. I think people are going to behave. Everybody knows their place. It's going to be great for everybody. It's going to be great for the surrounding countries, Arab, Muslim, all of them. It's going to be great for Israel. Everybody is happy, and I think it's going to stay that way.

[Steve Bannon]

Peter and if this, if this peace, if the ceasefire does hold, how long until we get to the part of the 20 point peace plan where developers can go in and make Gaza the Riviera of the Middle East?

[Donald J. Trump]

Well, I don't know about the Riviera for a while. Because you take a look at what you have, you have to get people taken care of first. But it's going to start really essentially immediately. I mean, they're going to have to start by removing a lot of the structures that you see that are down to the ground. I mean, it's a very. It's blasted. This is like a demolition site. Almost the entire site is. So you. You have to. You have to get rid of what you have there. You have structures that are very dangerous. They're falling down. If they haven't fallen, they're going to fall down of their own volition. So that process, Peter, is going to start pretty much immediately in that way.

[Steve Bannon]

Like a year from now, in your view.

[Donald J. Trump]

A year. That's very quick. But over the years, it'll look very good. It'll be. It's got the first chance it's had in centuries of being peaceful. It's always been a very, very strange area. It's always been loaded up with problems, religious problems, problems like no other place probably in the world. And I think it's going to. Now it's going to normalize. All you can say if it normalizes, that would be fantastic structure, sir, that.

[Steve Bannon]

You have set up in that peace plan. Plan. How soon will that new governing body be in place?

[Donald J. Trump]

Very quickly. And everybody wants to be a part of it. You're talking about the Board of Peace, right?

[Steve Bannon]

Tony Blair, yourself.

[Donald J. Trump]

Everybody wants to be a part of it. I've had calls from all of the leaders, the leaders of countries. They all want to be a part. I mean, the leaders themselves, they're not going to send somebody. They want to be a part of it.

[Steve Bannon]

Who's going to be a part of it yet?

[Donald J. Trump]

I do. I do. No, not yet.

[Steve Bannon]

Have you spoken to Tony Blair about it?

[Donald J. Trump]

Since the ear things out, have you.

[Steve Bannon]

Spoken to Tony Blair about it?

[Donald J. Trump]

I have. You know, I. First, I want to find out that Tony would be popular with all. Because I just don't know that. And I like Tony. I've always liked Tony, But I want to find out that he's an acceptable choice to everybody.

[Steve Bannon]

What about. What guarantees have you been able to give to. In both the Israelis and the Arab countries?

[Donald J. Trump]

We have a lot of guarantees.

[Steve Bannon]

The Israelis are very.

[Donald J. Trump]

We. We have a lot of verbal guarantees, too, and I don't think they're going to want to disappoint me. I have a lot of verbal guarantees, guarantees that aren't down in writing, but they were given to me, and I believe they're going to be Held very strongly. That's why I think it's going to be successful. Oh, look who we have. I Katie Le.

[Matt Farace]

Good to see who was present.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you. Good to see you. I'm sure you've seen reports of Hamas rearming, instituting themselves as a Palestinian police force, taking, you know, shooting rivals.

[Donald J. Trump]

What is your message? Because they do want to stop the problems, and they've been open about it and we gave them approval for a period of time. You have to understand they've lost probably 60,000 people. That's a lot of retribution. They've lost 60,000 people. And the ones that are living right now were, in many cases very young when this all started. And we are having them watch that there's not going to be big crime or some of the problems that you have when you have areas like this that have been literally demolished. You know, you have 2 million people and probably it'll be less than that, but you have close to 2 million people going back to buildings that have been demolished. And a lot of bad things can happen. So we want it to be. We want it to be safe. I, I think it's going to be fine. Who knows for sure, Katie, But I think it's going to be fine.

[Steve Bannon]

Mr. President?

[Dave Brat]

Yes, hi.

[Steve Bannon]

What is the latest that you've heard about hostages, when they will be released?

[Sheva Balkani]

Do you expect to meet with.

[Donald J. Trump]

Well, I knew the hostages might be even a little early, but I don't want to say that. So they have the hostages, I understand, all 20, and we may get them out a little bit early. Getting them was amazing, actually, because we were involved and they were in places that you. You don't want to know about. Deep, deep, deep.

[Steve Bannon]

Some of the top Biden administration folks.

[Joel Gilbert]

Who were there, like Antony Blinken, seemed.

[Steve Bannon]

To want some crazy credit for the peace deal. Blinken says it's good that President Trump adopted and built on the plan that the Biden administration developed. What do you think about that?

[Donald J. Trump]

Everybody knows that's a joke. Look, they didn't do. They did such a bad job. This should have never happened. This wouldn't have even happened. That was weak leadership, terrible. And the same thing with Russia, Russia, Ukraine.

[Joel Gilbert]

If.

[Donald J. Trump]

If A, just a decent president, not a great president, like B, not a great president, if a decent president was in, you wouldn't have had the Russia, Ukraine. And this is, I would say, even more so. This was bad policy by Biden and by Obama. Remember when Bibi came and he begged that you not do what they were doing with Iran? You remember that, right Begged him and they wouldn't even listen to him. Everything they did was the opposite, what you should have done. And it's nice that they try and take a little credit. That was years ago and the mistakes were made years ago, and it was both by Biden and Obama.

[Steve Bannon]

And so what did you do so differently? Because a lot, I know a lot of it was behind the scenes. So what did you do so much differently than Joe Biden and to end the war?

[Donald J. Trump]

I resonated with the Arab leaders, the Muslim leaders and the Jewish leaders. For whatever reason, you tell me why. You know, he said that in my first news conference, I answered more questions of him than I did four years. And I think that's pretty close to being true now. There were.

[Steve Bannon]

There were no Pinocchios in the fact check.

[Donald J. Trump]

That's right. That's right.

[Steve Bannon]

Your relationship with Prime Minister Netanyahu has been through some ups and downs. You had to get a little tough on him. Where is that relationship now? And can you tell us?

[Donald J. Trump]

Very good. He just put me up for the Nobel Prize. So, you know, I don't know what it means with the Nobel Prize, but he put me up yesterday for the Nobel Prize that I should get it. But so, I mean, I think it's.

[Steve Bannon]

Very good commitments to you personally about moving forward to the next phase of peace.

[Donald J. Trump]

Look, let me tell you, he's a wartime president. He did a very good job. I had some disputes with him, and they were quickly settled, I can tell you that. But as far as I'm concerned, I think he's done a great job. I think he was the right person at this time. You know, look, it's been, it's been this way for centuries. You know, we're not talking about for 10 years, for five. It's been this way for centuries. And he did a great job. And working with me, he was fantastic. Now working with Biden, no good.

[Steve Bannon]

Hang on a second. We're going to come back to this. This is a gaggle that took place on Air Force One. We're waiting. The Air Force One should be landing here momentarily. So we're going to take a quick break before all that happens. I've got Jack Posobec, Joel Gilbert, Matt Farrachi is in Jerusalem. Ben Harnwell is going to join us. Kurt Mills is going to join us. We're gonna have a breakdown of all of this, but you heard there from the president, United States, and that's kind of. That's Dasha Burns, Peter Doocy from Fox, they got the first team traveling with the president today because this is obviously a historic event and the president brought this together. He put the, he united the arabs more than T.E. lawrence. And quite frankly, he told Bibi, hey, here's what we're going to do. This is, this is what we're going to do, when we're going to do it. That's reality. Short break Our historic coverage overnight of President Trump's mission to Jerusalem. Mission to Israel. The hostages are being freed. Hamas is laying down their arms. The IDF is moving back. The president is going to address the Knesset in the Israeli people this morning in Israel War room.

[Jack Posobiec]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

[Steve Bannon]

Welcome back to our coverage. We're awaiting the arrival of Air Force One to Israel. We've got a gaggle. Amazing. President Trump, just incredible. The answer to the questions and how he's thought this thing through. Matferace in Jerusalem, there's been a number of celebrations of the hostages coming out, whether you're in Hostage Square or down at the Air Force base at Rhyme, but also down at the location of where basically the music festival, what I call kind of the Burning man that was going on that day, where the slaughter, particularly some of the youngest civilians, took place. What's happening down there today?

[Matt Farace]

So, Steve, a lot of people don't realize we're in the middle right now of the Jewish High holidays. And so if you remember, actually, October 7th happened at the very end of the Jewish High holidays, which we are approaching at again, obviously, the Hebrew calendar and the Gregorian calendar are different, so it shifts. So this morning at the Nova music festival site, which is considered, you know, the site of such heartbreak, they did a very, very holy thing. It's the festival of Sukkot, which for our Christian viewers, Jesus celebrated Sukkot in biblical times, in his time. And, and it's a time where we remember that life is temporary, but that God is eternal, that God is always with us, that he's never abandoned his people. And we build these temporary dwellings. And as part of it, there's something called a lulav. You can see in the footage, Steve, these people waving this. This is done. One of the reasons is to thank God for the harvest and for providing. And so it's really a beautiful thing because what they're doing is taking this site of desecration and making it holy and thanking God for his blessings in this sacred time on the Jewish calendar.

[Steve Bannon]

You know, one of the things we keep showing these shots of, of Hostage Square, which is pretty amazing. And it's been going on now for, I don't know, two, three days, this is not what you would call Trump country.

[Joel Gilbert]

Right.

[Steve Bannon]

That hostage square in Tel Aviv is not, is not. I think we have our MAGA forces up in Jerusalem, but Tel Aviv is a little more progressive.

[Matt Farace]

Yeah, this is the, this is like San Francisco. Maybe not that bad. Maybe not that bad, Steve, but it's New York. It's a blue city. It's, you know, Tel Aviv is by American standards a blue city. And so, yes, to see people, I saw Wolf Blitzer this morning or having to admit that people had MAGA hats on and I think it was causing him some heartburn. President Trump is somebody in Israel that transcends the traditional political lines because he's a friend and done such great things for Israel and the Jewish people. And I think you're seeing that universal outpouring of support continuing this morning. Steve, building on what you and I were talking about just last night.

[Steve Bannon]

Matt, hang on for a second. Jack Bosoba, you heard the president right there on the, in the gaggle. And for the audience, you know, paso that the media sits in back of really the compartments where the staff works for the president. President's all the way forward. On Air Force One, you had the media in the back and President Trump, unlike Obama or Biden and really Bush always goes back and have what is a press gaggle, which is, as you can tell, just an open ended press conference where they're just tossing questions to him right there in kind of the heat of battle and he'll answer everything. Your thoughts about some of his answers though, Jack?

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, Steve, you know, as the folks know, thanks to Real America's Voice and shout out to the support of Robin Parker SIG for allowing me the opportunity to have traveled aboard Air Force One in the new media seat there and participated in those gaggles. Look, the president is, is very clear. He's talking about how these are conflicts that go back centuries, in some cases thousands of years, depending on how you look at it. And I think he realizes as well the magnanimity of the situation, but also the fact that this is a real hornet's nest that he's getting himself involved into. And he's reaffirming America's role not just in the region, but in the entire world. He wants America to be the broker of the peace deal, but also the economic deals which will be coming on the heels of this. And, and so yes, it's a crowded field and you've got the Arab nations there, Persia not too far behind. And then Back behind all of that, you've got, of course, Russia and China. And so for the president to come there in the Middle east to be seen as this, which is an unequivocal win for President Trump, there's no question this is President Trump's victory, that it really plants a flag for the United States being the first among nations, but not doing so in a way that with the neoconservatives, where it's through conquest or neoliberals, where it's through the increasing globalism, but through direct one on one diplomacy, this is exactly what President Trump campaigned on. And President Trump is absolutely delivering. And in this case, not just for the United States, but for the world.

[Steve Bannon]

He is, though. And I thought, I think it was Dasha asked one of the best questions there. I mean, you're in it now. It's not the United States hasn't been in it. And obviously I've been a big proponent that Israel is a protectorate, not an ally. And now, quite frankly, in the way this deal is set up and the way he's treating Netanyahu, that, hey, here's what it's going to be, is as a protectorate, not an ally. But by taking the role of the chairman of the Board of Peace, I think he's doing something that hasn't been done in American history. Except Woodrow Wilson was obviously very involved in the treaty and the Versailles Treaty, after our Treaty of Paris, after in Paris to negotiate at the end of World War I. And really he was one of the architects of the post war League of Nations, which he then came back and could not sell to the American people. They never put it to a vote in the Senate as a treaty. He had a massive stroke and essentially his wife, you know, basically fulfilled his presidency at the end. But President Trump is stepping into a role and he just said right there, he says, hey, I don't know if Tony Blair is going to be acceptable. Tony Blair's role in the Iraq war is left a sour taste in his mouth with many people in the region, not just the Arabs. And so we don't know if Blair is going to be able to take over as executive director. But President Trump has reaffirmed today that he's going to be the head of the Board of Peace. That means you're overseeing not just the redevelopment of Gaza, but also all the involvement and quite frankly, thousands of years of hate and bloodshed and carnage that's going around Gaza. Jack?

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, Steve, that's right. And of course, President Trump putting his name on it is absolutely going to lead to a guarantee, but then also perhaps a check that that will begin to see who is going to be wanting to cash that there in the region, politically speaking in Israel, there's a lot, there's obviously serious questions about whether or not Yetanyahu's coalition will be able to continue because as you can see here, peace is extremely popular in the area. And there's no question you heard the boos a couple of days ago when Steve Witkoff was talking about the deal and he mentions Netanyahu and they immediately start booing. This is something where they view President Trump as the one came in, worked with the Qataris, worked with regional partners, came in, put the leverage on Hamas, was able to get the deal done by having those direct negotiations not going through and having the IDF continue operations, which is what Netanyahu wanted to continue. So there's real questions as to what happens politically speaking there in the Knesset. And there's no, and it's no coincidence that that's exactly where President Trump is going to be speaking very soon. So yes, he is absolute involving himself directly in this process the same way, by the way that he did in Ukraine, Russia.

[Steve Bannon]

Kurt Mills the president was as President Trump's a master of messaging and a massive, a master of narrative warfare and of also branding. He referred to Netanyahu as a wartime president shortly thereafter, he said, they said. Well, Netanyahu said last night in Hebrew in this video that the war continues on, although the Gaza parts down. There's one of the posters about President Trump. You're seeing these all over now and particularly in areas of, of Israel that President Trump hasn't been particularly popular. So Kurt, he basically said he's a wartime president, leaving open Netanyahu's futures in this entire thing. He also was adamant when told that Netanyahu had had this video addressed to the people in Israel about the war goes on, although the Gaza part of it is done. And this is part of the Greater Israel Project that has gotten so many people here in the United States quite frankly outraged about dragging us into it. And he said the war is over. What do you think the president is messaging right now to Netanyahu and to and to that kind of center right and right wing party in Israel.

[Kurt Mills]

Yeah, I think he's absolutely messaging that he wants this to be finito, that he wants this to be the last word on the subject potentially for his presidency. He doesn't want Benjamin Netanyahu coming back to Washington every other month as it seemed, as it literally seems that he's he has to Washington. He doesn't want to be making a third trip to the region. This is, of course, the second trip after May, this October, this year to solve these problems. Trump thinks that this should be a justifiable and durable peace. You see a lot of you see the president's empathetic streak kind of coming through here, which I believe is an underrated part of his personality. You see Trump talking a lot more about history, which is not necessarily something that he does every day. And I think you have, you know, a general desire to be rid of the Israel issue for a while, that Netanyahu is on his own for elections in 2026 and that US Republican, American support, Donald Trump's support is at an end. We'll see how that goes. I don't think the president is ignorant of who he's dealing with. I think there's already signs from Netanyahu that he might try to scuttle the second phase of this deal. And I think there's going to try to avoid that.

[Steve Bannon]

Kurt, hang on for one second. Air Force One has landed, just landed in Israel. You see a guard of honor coming out to meet it. There's supposed to be a very short see the, the red carpet. It's gonna be a very short Runway. Let's do we have audio? Let's try to pick it. Let's pick up.

[Joel Gilbert]

Nema.

[Steve Bannon]

It's it Prime Minister Netanyahu and senior members of his, of his government. The red carpets they'll roll out to put the, the stairway in up against Air Force One. And we'll momentarily see the President of the United States. Jack, what's amazing is he's taking this red eye flight. We were here yesterday at I don't know what 4 o' clock in the afternoon was it watching the president leave. He takes a red eye essentially overnight flight. He doesn't go to a hotel. He's going to come. He's going to get off the plane and be completely refreshed and ready to go. It's just extraordinary energy, just extraordinary. Well, and senior members of the government and idf. Go ahead, sir.

[Jack Posobiec]

And it's rare that President Trump actually spends any time asleep on these trips. And in fact, this Kaitlan Collins was posting up a report recently that she had claimed that she had heard there were members of the staff that were saying that they don't even get to sleep in any of these overseas trips when they're going with the president. You're seeing Jared Ivanka there with, with others, Witcock, Mike Huckabee, as well. And, and it's true, the President is constantly working while on this trip. And there's no question. Well, on these trips, and there's no question to me that he's. He's working the phones on, on a regular basis. That's something that I know directly from having traveled with him to Alaska and back. He spent the entire time on the phone with world leaders. And there's no question, and there's no doubt in my mind that of the 27 nations that are going to be arriving in Egypt for this, this meeting coming up here, he's probably on the phone already working deals, talking with people and supporting the pieces in place for the meetings that will take place in Egypt in the coming, the coming days and hours.

[Steve Bannon]

There's Steve Witkoff, Jared Kushner. Jared, the architect of the Abraham Accords, which is really the predicate of this deal with the Arabs. Ivanka is there. Huckabee. Huckabee, who I believe has been quite unhelpful in this process as he's taken to be a cheerleader for Netanyahu's government. I think it. To the great. To the great demise of trying to get this deal done quicker. Ben Gurion Airport in Israel. Going to meet Netanyahu, have a few minutes, I think have a meeting with them. Supposed to go meet hostages and then go to the Knesset. Jack, there's the local version of the beast. Secret Service will have would have pre positioned that.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Here we go.

[Joel Gilbert]

Aglanin.

[Kurt Mills]

Daniel.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you, sir. I appreciate it. Thank you. I think you're right. You would have to call, you would have to say the closest to this is Cyrus the Great.

[Joel Gilbert]

Right.

[Jack Posobiec]

You'd have to go back to Cyrus the Great. You'd have to go back to.

[Steve Bannon]

The.

[Jack Posobiec]

Persian leader who toppled the Babylonians and then returned and restored peace to the region. Allowed the flourishing, the rebuilding of the temple. And there are in fact posters going up. I've seen images going around referring to Trump as the return of Cyrus the Great. It looks as though the President should be coming out here any second.

[Steve Bannon]

Yep. Kurt Mills, you've said something a couple times, yesterday's show and today about the underplay about President Trump's empathy, how empathetic he is. Give me a minute on that as we wait for the President.

[Kurt Mills]

Absolutely. This is somebody who, you know, obviously a tough guy. He's seen as ogressed by his opponents, but in moments of crisis.

[Steve Bannon]

Hang one second. We have the, we have the official that. No hand, no hand, no hand.

[Dave Brat]

You're blocking Everyone.

[Steve Bannon]

It there. We've got to keep the carpet clear.

[Dave Brat]

To the car so everybody can slide.

[Steve Bannon]

That way a little bit and slide this way.

[Joel Gilbert]

Open up the carpet.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Joel Gilbert]

I do worry that Trump may be in a little over his head on some of these subjects. For example, he keeps saying that this conflict has been going on for 3000 years, but Islam has only existed for 1500 years. So that's not exactly correct. I saw that when Trump went to the Gulf, of course, the Qataris, I think, were trying to influence him by giving him the airplane. After he was in the Gulf visit, Trump started talking about starvation in Gaza, which was really an Arab talking point. It wasn't something that was true. So I just wonder if they, the Arab countries feel they can sway from.

[Steve Bannon]

Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. That's the Israeli perspective. I think there's a lot of people in the world, including many in the United States and Independence, that say there was a huge problem. Now, how maybe the food didn't get to people because of Hamas, but there was definitely a starvation problem. You can't say there wasn't definitely problems. Maybe it was held up.

[Joel Gilbert]

I think there were shortages, I think there were problems, but I don't think it was starvation on the level of hysteria that they were trying to create. So I just. I think that Trump is.

[Steve Bannon]

Joel, one of the things. Hang on. One other thing about the 3,000 years, and maybe that's not the right term, but I think he's saying it's even a lot of this in the region transcends even religion. It transcends Islam. It transcends. I mean, this is a cockpit of basically intense fighting for thousands of years, right, in ancient vendettas that people in the West. I mean, you keep mentioning something that's very important. You talk about the clans right now in Gaza. I know in May, the people. And I think Matt Farachi would know this. When we talk to people about, on the Israeli side about Judea Samara, they say, hey, the sheiks, there's 12 sheikhs over there that want to throw in with the Israelis because they can't stand the Palestinian Authority. I don't think people in the United States understand whether it's clans or sheiks or different tribes in the Middle east, they don't really think of nation states, as you told us last night. Tell me about that, about the clans and the sheiks and who really runs things over there.

[Joel Gilbert]

Well, the concept of nation states is a Christian solution to Christian problems and the idea of nationalism. You're French, you're English, you're American. They don't have those ideas in the Muslim world. Loyalty can only be to God, to Allah. So they're not really loyal to Jordan or Egypt or the Saudi kings. So political loyalty is something that only exists in the Muslim world, to religion and not to a nation state. And that's a fundamental concept that Western countries don't understand when they try to negotiate these different treaties. I think what's going to be very interesting is to see if Bibi's relationship and influence with Trump will continue. He's known him for many years. Trump was at his wedding to Melania. I mean, Bibi was at Trump's wedding. So they've known each other for so many years. And then you have this kind of business group of the Gulf Arabs that are offering trillions of dollars of investment that are also influencing Trump. So I'm seeing that there's kind of an influence struggle as to who will be able to sway Trump in their favor. That's taking place right now. And I'm sure Bibi is trying hard to make sure that Trump understands his position and why Hamas has to be disarmed. But it sounds to me very clearly that Trump does not want the war to continue, and Hamas may take advantage of that.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah, to him, the war is over. Right now we have the motorcade, and I believe President Trump is supposed to meet with some of the hostages now, if they're in shape or not. Also, it's pretty amazing. In Hostage Square in Tel Aviv, these folks who are not really Trump supporters are looking at him like he is Cyrus the Great on the big screen. Matt Farachi, President Trump has now landed in Tel Aviv at Ben Gurion Airport. What does this mean for Israel right now?

[Matt Farace]

Steve, one thing I'd like to clarify for your viewers just a little bit so they can get a little bit of a political lexicon about the politics of Israel. So if I could use the analogy, Bibi Netanyahu is sort of a George W. Bush in terms of where he is on the political left, right and center in the country. He's a political moderate. There are people that I would call miga, make Israel great again much further on the right. People like Simcha Rothman, Smotridge Ben gvir. These guys represent the, you know, more of the MAGA equivalent in the Israeli political scene. And then, Steve, to your point, you have the left, almost the Bernie Sanders crowd in Tel Aviv. So I think that's informative for people that don't follow closely Israeli politics. And what does that mean? So Posobek was talking about the Prime Minister's coalition earlier and that's part of, the, part of the issue is the more conservative members of the coalition had some real issues with the peace deal for national security reasons. So just to explain to your viewers how that's shaking out. And then also, if I may, Steve, to explain the Prime Minister's comments last night, I think it depends on your definition of war. If we're talking about ending the war with Gaza, I think the President is saying that's over. But you've still got, as far as Israel is concerned, you've got the Houthis, you've got some dangerous elements in Syria. It looks like Lebanon could go into civil war if they can't get Hezbollah disarmed. So there's a lot of other fronts happening at the same time and I think that's what the Prime Minister is going to be. Oh yeah, but I think last night.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah, but I think the president, I think the President's referring to that too. The President's going this afternoon to meet with the Arabs in the Muslim world and he's calling it a Middle east peace. He's not calling this a Gaza peace. I agree with you, there's a, there's fundamental disconnect here. I also agree with you that guys on the right, they hate this deal. They understand what we've been saying. I mean Mark Levin's gonna be banging his head on the wall right now. Television Levin, I mean this is a two state solution, call it what you want, but you got Qatar and the Saudis stroking big checks, huge checks for development. You've got trying to make Gaza like Tel Aviv like Miami Beach. You've got a Turkish security force. And what I've said on this show for years is that the, the, the threat to Israel I didn't think came from Tehran at all. Thought that was vastly trumped up. I said it's Turkey and Qatar. You got to worry about the money for the Muslim Brotherhood. And Erdogan's the muscle and he's very focused on the re establishment of the Ottoman Empire. The last time we had these type of seismic shifts in the Middle east was when the British with Lawrence of Arabia took Damascus and freed Jerusalem on the way up from, guess what, the Ottoman Empire. Anyway, we got time to get all on this. We're going to take a break. While we got. There's the Israeli IDF band, very nice and appropriate and I thought pretty low key present Reception for the President, which I thought was great. He's with Netanyahu now. I think we're going to. He's going to get a chance to meet some of the hostages which he freed. These are going to address the Knesset. Short commercial break we got a team of all stars here to break it all down for us. Back in a moment. Are you on Getter yet? No.

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[Steve Bannon]

Okay, thank you. Very impressive right there in, in the square. And like I said, they've got, they've got signs for Trump. The hostages are being released, the President's there with Netanyahu. He's going to meet hostages, he's going to address the Knesset, and then he's got a whole second part to the day, believe it or not. He then goes to Egypt for the, for the peace conference or the redevelopment conference or the Middle east conference, whatever they're calling it. Ben Harnwell, Ker Darmer's Sir Keir showing up today, Macron, your favorite. His government's collapsing in France, but he's going to take time to go down to the Red Sea resort in Egypt to be part of it. You know, they've always had a big hand in the Levant. In fact, it was the French and the British that carved up the Middle east. As Joel Gilbert said, put these artificial nation created these artificial nation states that have kind of been part of the problem ever since. Your thoughts through your beady eyes there in Rome.

[Ben Harnwell]

Look, look, look, look, Steve, my BDI is a glittering serpent like as I'm watching the feed now, before, before, before I go into the beady eyed cynicism, I have to pay tribute to what Donald Trump has achieved with this. This is, this is something that he has forced through with the power of his will alone, effectively the power of his charisma, the power of his will. And the crowds that we're seeing now on the feed is a result directly of that. That is, Steve, that is what you call personal authority. He made this happen because he wanted this to happen. He wanted to see these images now. And that is what he focused on and that is what he has worked towards. And I have to give him absolute credit to that. Right. And just highlights the difference between when you have a real president and when you have an auto pen president. This is President Trump's day, right? I give him full, absolute, total tribute to that. He deserves it. He deserves to be applauded for this. That said that there are things I want to dig into over the next three hours on this show to do with the costs that it has taken to get here, political costs and also costs to do moving forward to maintain an inverted comment as the peace. Steve, you flagged up on Getter something extremely important earlier on today. And that is the fact is there seems to be a difference of opinion even today when the crowds are gathering as to what exactly is being celebrated here. Clearly the release of the hostages. But also the fact is this the end of the war. President Trump says definitively that it's over. Bibi himself is saying equally definitively that it's not. This is important for the United States because it would appear that President Trump, or let me say America is now underwriting both sides of this war on both the Israeli side and of course now the Gaza side with these security guarantees. This is a touch paper that could easily explode moving forward. And there are obviously interests, you know, the haredim that the Orthodox Jews there and I think the government could easily fall at some point. Important to remember, Steve, that only the first phase of the Trump plan has actually been agreed to in the Knesset. The substantial long term peace will hinge around the more substantial non hostage issues. And that I think is where the difficulties Israel is going to face moving forward. Look, you mentioned in your question, of course the Europeans, our beloved Europeans, apart from Phony Meloni who's also in Egypt. Now the three countries, the three primary countries you've mentioned, Britain, Germany, France, all of them, as you indicated, all of them are suffering massive domestic turmoil right now. And I can't help but think that their eagerness to fly over to Cairo to be part of the peace negotiations is an attempt to distract from the failures of their own domestic agenda. And that is something and I hand back to you on this point, Steve. This is something that I hope the, the hierarchy that the political maga hierarchy in the United States is attentive to. I close with this point, right? I close to this point. 20 hostages being released is an incredible thing. But 200Americans are dying every day of fentanyl and the political, the political camera needs to be focused directly on that. And another domestic issues, I think. Steve.

[Steve Bannon]

Ben, stick right there. Ben Harnwell, our international editor in, in Rome, Joe Gilbert. Ben's kind of right. I mean, there is an agreement to release these hostages there. There's some sort of agreement about Hamas laying down its arms. And Hamas may be going back and being some interim security force for some short period of time while the IDF pulls back. And of course, you've got the celebration there with the hostages, but there's a lot of this that's not really particularly defined. Now this afternoon in, at the Red Sea resort in Egypt, I think there may be a couple of documents are going to be signed or at least agreed to. But this thing is still pretty, pretty soft around the edges, is it not?

[Joel Gilbert]

I agree. It started out as Sunday night, Hamas had to take it or leave it. That was like a week ago. And then it turned into a hostage exchange deal with the other points to be negotiated and worked out later. The Egyptians, Turks and Gulf Arabs jumped all over and said, okay, let's have our own little peace agreement and summit and we're going to fund and create a Palestinian state in Gaza. I think they're putting together a political united movement to demand a Palestinian state not only in Gaza, but in the west bank and Jerusalem, to help influence the Israeli election next year that will say, hey, we're going to give you peace. We'll stop trying to kill you. Just give us all this land and we'll have peace in the Middle East. And they'll try to see if the Israeli public will go for it, in which case Israel will be entering another peace agreement. And I think they'd be setting themselves up for more disappointment, just like the peace treaty with Egypt, because Egypt saw the agreement with Israel completely differently than Israel saw it. Israel got to Sinai and remained a hostile force. Egypt allowed the arming of Hamas. Imagine having a peace treaty with Egypt and they allowed Hamas to be armed and wage war on Israel. So I think some of the peace movement in Israel has been shattered and gotten the reality that the Islamic world does not accept Israel in any size or circumstance. But it remains to be seen because I think in Sharm El Sheikh there is a new coalition coming together that will be proposing a peace deal for a new Israeli government.

[Steve Bannon]

Oh, no, I agree that you got Qatar, the Saudis, probably UAE prepared to put in, I think, tens of billions of dollars, maybe even hundreds of billions of dollars. The Turks are sitting there saying, we'll take the security we'll organize the Arabs and the Muslim nations on security and Gaza. Kurt Mills I mean, I think that's the deal that however you want to cut it, Gaza becomes at least the beginning of a proto Palestinian state, but two state solution. Right? I mean it's obvious to me it's pretty obvious what's going to happen, sir.

[Kurt Mills]

Yeah, I mean look, the president is the driver on this and the term in war is often that the enemy gets a vote, but the term in peace here should be that America gets a vote. And so I have to respectfully disagree with one of my co panelists. I think that the President clearly sees this as an end to the greater Middle east war. I, I don't think he wants to use all his political capital to fly over to Israel and fly over to Egypt today to sign a Gaza only deal only for new hostilities to break. Yeah, yeah. So I mean, hang on a second.

[Steve Bannon]

I'm gonna get back. No, I agree with you. I think Jack Posoba, jump in here. I think when that, when Netanyahu addressed the nation last night, that video and said the larger war is over, and Trump emphatically goes the war is over. And I think he's meaning that, hey, America is not going to be there. Like I said, anything Israel wants to do on its own, go, go with it. I'm a nationalist. You, you people in Israel should be Israel first. I've got no problem with that at all. They should do it. It's just that we can't, you know, be Israel first here in the United States. We got to put the United States first. I think Kurt's right. I think that the President looks at this as in this afternoon, as he calls it a Middle east peace. He doesn't just call it a Gaza peace. Jack Posobic.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, I think I could agree with that just in terms of the sense that if Israel were to do something after this, that, that the President would not be there. I mean, look, you've got just north of Israel, of course, all of the real questions about what's going on in Syria with this new leader there, the Ottomans pushing down from the north across Aleppo, Idlib, these real questions about southern Syria, who's really going to be the, you know, who's really going to be the guarantors? They are these local militias or are you going to have Damascus be able to exert any kind of control? And of course China, look, China is trying to look in that China wants Syria to be a Chinese highway for them to be able to push their New Silk Road for their, their products both into, into and across the Mediterranean and then for oil flows back into the People's Republic. So there's a lot of questions about what goes on in Syria. I wouldn't, I mean, look, it's the Middle East. I think we wouldn't be surprised if we do see some forms of regional conflict pop off. But at the same time, I do agree with Kurt that President Trump clearly is putting the squeeze on everyone to say put the guns down.

[Steve Bannon]

Absolutely. Okay. We're going to take another commercial break while we can. President Trump is in the Beast with Netanyahu. The order of battle here is supposed to be, I think the president is trying to meet with some of the hostage families and the hostages before addressing the Knesset in a formal address to the nation of Israel. He then will go and go back to Air Force One, return to Ben Gurion Airport, go back to Air Force One and then leave for Egypt to this peace conference that's going to take place this afternoon at the Red Sea Resort. We're going to take a short commercial break here. Gold is almost at 4,100 bucks. Does that surprise you? The Chinese Communist Party, not that this is important, but I did say, say the Mideast is a sideshow and the Israel situation is a sideshow to a sideshow. Now more than ever, I think that's accurate. The Chinese Communist Party, full scale economic war against the United States of America. We'll get into all this and much more. Historic trip to Israel on a mission of peace. Donald John Trump, the commander in chief, the United States, back in a moment.

[Jack Posobiec]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

[Steve Bannon]

Joe Gilbert, it's a 45 minute drive, by the way. This shows you how small a country geographically Israel is and really how tiny Gaza is. But from the Ben Gurion Airport, it's only a 45 minute drive to the Knesset in Jerusalem. The president en route now with the prime Minister. What do you think that conversation inside the Beast is right now, sir?

[Joel Gilbert]

Well, I think, I think hopefully Bibi is giving Trump some perspective with something like this, is that the Arab and Muslim countries have been promoting for years and years that the only problem in the Middle east is the Palestinians don't have their own state. And they do that to avoid addressing the real problems that exist in the region. It's the divide between Shia Islam in Iran and the largest Sunni population. The Sunnis don't really consider the Shia Iranians to be real Muslims. There's a huge divide between rich elites and poor masses. The Gulf Arabs, the Saudis, the Qataris are hated by the masses of the people who are poor because they hoard the wealth. There is the Turks trying to reassert themselves. There are so many problems. Persecutions of Christian minorities. There's so many problems in the Middle East. And these countries have sought to avoid addressing them by saying the only problem is the Palestinians. So this is. These issues are huge in the Middle east and they will exist whether or not the Palestinians put together a state in Gaza and elsewhere. And I think Bibi actually does a good job of trying to give history and perspective whenever he talks at the UN when he talks to Trump. And, you know, the Qataris have been playing all sides. People don't understand who the Qataris really are. In Qatar, there's 300,000 Qataris and 3 million expatriates. It's a small group of this extended family that controls all the wealth. And they cut deals with everybody. They pay off Hamas, they pay off American universities. You know, they give the US A base. So there's a lot of different actors.

[Steve Bannon]

By the way, one of the reasons we have a problem with Mamdani in New York City, Qatar is all over the New York City public education system. Qatar, to me, I think, to me, I've always said one of the worst actors in the world. I think they financed the Muslim Brotherhood. They, they use their wealth and they've had a tremendous. By putting investments and putting and partnering with people, they are incredibly powerful. Given that they were almost toppled by the UAE and the Saudis a week after President Trump. After we left in 2017.

[Joel Gilbert]

Sir, that's correct. Look, the Saudis do everything because they're so insecure. Not the Saudis, the Qataris. The Saudis also. But Qataris are insecure. They're paranoid. And they think what they've done is they've overplayed their hand over the years by cutting deals with every single side of every conflict, paying everybody off because they're always in survival mode. So that's who they are. And you can't really trust them because they're always going to cut a deal with somebody else. So the very idea of even the Abraham Accords, the idea that the Israelis get an embassy in these, you know, Arab Gulf states that have these rich elites and poor masses, doesn't have that much value. And I do believe the Abraham Accords are kind of overvalued. And the Israelis should be calling for free elections in Gulf states, in Egypt, in all these countries, that if they want peace with Israel, they should hold free elections. And I think you'd see a whole different story in the Middle east.

[Steve Bannon]

If the Abraham Accords, let's go there. Because that is the basic, that's the predicate of this deal, which is more of a business relationship, commercial relationship, talking about capital markets and integration of logistics chains, the transportation, air flights from Tel Aviv to the, to the Gulf Emirates, particularly in Turkey, the. So if that's a shaky foundation, because I think with Jarrett in their concept and even Trump is that the politics here and the politicians are just too embedded in ancient vendettas. And if you want to try to move past it, you got to look at the cash flow coming from the old, the Gulf Emirates. And they're putting that in crypto, they're putting that in artificial intelligence. They're trying to transform their economies and doing that play to that and see if that can't somehow change the Middle East. I mean, this day, we're here today because of that and because of the Qataris and the Saudis and UAE saying we will underwrite to the tune of tens of billions of dollars a massive redevelopment of Gaza. And President Trump says it's not going to happen overnight because first off, you got the things looks like the Western front in World War I, but you're going to build essentially a Tel Aviv equivalent with 2 million Palestinians. And that is to me the proto two state solution that is pretty obvious is happening here. Sir.

[Joel Gilbert]

Well, two points. One is that the vast majority of Muslims in the Islamic world hate the Gulf Arabs. They think that they're hoarding wealth and they're suppressing the masses. So these countries, you can try to cut deals with these royal families, but they are hated by the, by the Islamists and by the vast majority of regular Muslim people. Any deal in Gaza is going to quickly, the demand is going to expand. We don't only want Gaza, we want half of Jerusalem, we want the west bank. And they'll be hectoring and lecturing Israel if you get rid of Netanyahu. We got this great peace deal. Peace is going to break out and the Israelis hopefully have learned their lesson that every time they cut a deal with these Arab countries, it never works out like they thought it would. It turns into a kind of a hostile peace and they make more demands. So I think developments are going to happen very quickly. Trump, I think, is going to try his best. But there is a large group of Muslim countries, United States with a plan. And I think that the details of that plan go far beyond Gaza.

[Steve Bannon]

Oh, definitely there's no doubt. He says it's a Middle east plan. When he's talking about the war ending, I mean, he's adamant it's the Middle East. This thing today is, I think it's called a Middle east conference. It's not called the Gaza conference. Right there you see the motorcade of the President, they're heading with the Prime Minister, they're heading to the Knesset. So, Kurt Mills, what would the President actually say in his address? Because as we've kind of detailed here, the President's idea is I'm laying out an architecture for peace in the Middle East. And the first step of this is return of hostages and Hamas laying down their arms and the IDF retreating and all these details of the Gaza part of it. But he's got a much broader agenda to kind of put this to bed, as he says, once and for all in 3,000 years. Right. And the people are putting up signs in Hostage Square in Tel Aviv, which is not Trump friendly country, calling Trump, as Jack Posovic says, Cyrus the Great, your thoughts? So what is President Trump in a few minutes when he addresses the Israeli people from the Knesset? What's he going to say?

[Kurt Mills]

Yeah, I mean, I think he should basically, and I am cautiously optimistic that he will give a sequel address to the one that he gave and the Gulf states in mid May, when he explicitly denounced neoconservatism, he explicitly iterated that he was going to do a step change in US Foreign policy for a generation. And then, you know, this sort of Middle east theater went sideways in June when Israel attacked Iran. I think in October there's an opportunity to, to turn the page on Hawk Summer and make it very clear that Trump is, is a friend of peace and also that he is a friend of the Israeli people. I think he was very revealing and it got a lot of attention over the weekend that Trump's name in the Israeli streets was cheered and that Prime Minister Netanyahu's name was booed. Prime Minister Netanyahu is a wily operator. He is welcome to run for reelection again next year. But Trump's fate need not be Netanyahu's fate. And I think he can deliver a durable peace agreement here and one that hopefully slightly or further decouples the relationship between the US And Israel. Or else the Trump's entire final term in office or however long he is in the White House will be dominated by this theater. And he doesn't want that. The American people don't want that. And the broader MAGA movement does not want that.

[Steve Bannon]

You said the neocon. I want to go back to that, what he said. President Trump was particularly critical of American foreign policy in the past of trying to put your own culture onto cultures that foreign, like democracy in the, in the Middle East. Right. I mean, he was pretty adamant about that. I know Joel just talked about, hey, we ought to have direct elections and it would overthrow all these corrupt rural families. You won't have any argument there from me about the corruption of the, of the Gulf emirates, but President Trump was pretty adamant, kind of a break with traditional American foreign policy that this was not. He's not in the, he's not in the business of rolling out democracy through the Middle east and even said other things about, you know, people have their own cultures and those cultures have to develop over time with their economics.

[Kurt Mills]

Yeah, I mean, I think Trump has the reasonable opinion here, not just the Middle east, but in the broader world theater, which is that he works with whoever leads the organization or the country. I think you have seen direct negotiations from Trump's emissaries with even Hamas. It's not that Trump is a fan of Hamas. It's not that Trump is going to invite Hamas to the White House anytime soon, but he'll deal with them. He represents, he knows that they represent a perspective that they have an armada of Palestinians underneath them and that they need to be brought to the table to, too. And you see, you see time and again a desire to just work pragmatically with who is there. I would contrast that. And again, you know, he has sort of changed throughout his political career. But Netanyahu was a very close ally of the George W. Bush White House. And what was the George W. Bush White House? Active regime change. Regime change. Regime change. That is not Trump's instinct in the slightest.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah, hang on one second, Jack. I know you got a bounce as we come upon the four o', clock, 4:00am Eastern Daylight Time. Your thoughts, sir, to put this in perspective?

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, Steve, I think what, what the panel is saying here is, is right, that President Trump has come in and is repudiating both neoconservative and neoliberal camps here in terms of their schools of thought. He, he didn't notice. He didn't do this using the infrastructure of the UN he didn't use the, he didn't use the United States military to get involved in any of the operations in Hamas or in Gaza regarding them. Perhaps some intel sharing. But this was direct diplomacy and using economic strength. And this is key because what do we see going on in the area is China is making a huge play for the newly reconstruct Syria to the north. China is getting back to Aleppo and Palmyra, these classic historic cities that were hubs along the ancient Silk Road. China is building its new Silk Road across the new Syria. And so the United States is, of course, wanting to make sure they maintain relationships in the region as they look as those actors, Russia, China now coming in as well. So President Trump making a key point to understand that while the United States is putting its own interests first, it is retreating from the rest of the world. And so it's shoring up those relationships in the Middle east and in fact, I would even say strengthening relationships with new partners because now you've got Qatar. That is intrinsically they are dependent on the United States now for their diplomatic efforts and Israel as well, quite frankly.

[Steve Bannon]

In their air base in Idaho. We'll get to that. Jack, you're going to be in Human Events. I hopefully will tap you for the traditional war room 10am Show. Where do People Go? Your Twitter feed is the Associated Press of the MAGA movement. Where do People Go, sir?

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, Steve will be up, you know, posing throughout the night. It is a historic day. It is history being made before our eyes. So go to ackpasobeck on Twitter, Truth Getter and Telegram, and then of course, the podcast at Human Events. And Steve, I just gotta say, Charlie would love to see this.

[Steve Bannon]

Oh, yeah, Charlie would have been on. We'd be doing three co hosts. Charlie Kirk tomorrow afternoon on his 32nd birthday, will receive at 4pm in the afternoon at the White House the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the highest civilian award the United States can award. Jack Posobic, thank you. We'll see you later in the day. Short commercial break we're going to come back to Jerusalem in a moment.

[Jack Posobiec]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner.

[Steve Bannon]

By the way, today is a day, I think, as you stay with us for our coverage, you might want to also go to Birch Gold. Gold is on fire. I don't know. The Chinese Communist Party declared economic war against the United States on rare earths, which the industrial side of rare earths, or what they call heavy rare earths, drive the industrial production process in the United States and they've threatened to cut us off. President Trump has not. President Trump is not happy about that. And President Trump has said they're going to add 100% tariffs. Now, that may all be up in the air as they try to work things out, but gold has been on fire over the weekend, although the capital market is a little bit Calmed down because President Trump says, put out a nice message last night saying, hey, she had a bad day and we're going to figure this out. I did put up a getter post right after that said, Mr. President, just remember they're at economic war with us and have been since 2019. And she is no friend, right? She doesn't have friends. But once again, it shows you President Trump is trying to be a global peacemaker, whether it's from Ukraine to the South China Sea to now the Middle east, the Gaza Strip and the broader Middle East. President Trump is, of course, a guy like that you would never award the Nobel Peace Prize to, although the woman who got it, and she's very brave and courageous politician down in Venezuela, she wouldn't even exist if it was not for the space created for her by President Trump to even exist and not be in some camp somewhere already dead. So President Trump trying to, throughout the world, bring peace, because it's his thoughts are, you can't have a prosperous America until we are totally prosperous America until you have peace. Right there you see the. That's the lead car in the motorcade. They're heading towards Jerusalem and to the Knesset. President Trump is about to address the Israeli people. And like we said, there's still a lot of open questions about exactly what this deal is. Before I go to Ben Harnoell in Rome during the break, you mentioned something, Joel, I think is very important for people to understand. The assault on October 7, as shocking as it was to the world and to the Israeli people, it really hit kind of the progressive left. I mean, they had this where Matt Farachi told us today there was kind of a ceremony where the Nova concert was, I consider that that day, to make sure people could understand what's going on. It was kind of like a burning man that we have here in the United States. Right. A lot of young people, music, obviously drugs, you know, just kind of hanging loose. The kibbutzes are some of the more progressive. And these were all to the south, right. That they had had a lot of interaction with Palestinians before and quite frankly, had, as you said, taking people to the hospital. So it was not just a wake up call. It was a traumatic shock when, when the Muslim Brotherhood attacked, was it not, sir?

[Joel Gilbert]

Yeah. Like imagine if you're a Democrat living in San Francisco and you support illegal immigration and then a guy from El Salvador comes in your house and murders the rest of your family members. You would have, like a shock about your entire belief system. So this is kind of what happened In Israel, the far left loonies who lived in these kibbutzim along the Gaza border were just in love with the idea of a Palestinian state. They would bring them to work on their kibbutzim. They would pick up Palestinian children and take them to get free medical care in Israel and take them back. So this is a group of people that were actually attacked the most by Hamas. They came over and murdered them and kidnapped them. So the, the far left in Israel, their view that peace is going to break out as soon as you just give the Palestinians their own country. Their worldview was shattered on October 7th. And the next is early election, I think is going to reflect that. I don't think these far left parties that are telling the public, if you just create a Palestinian state, everything's going to be great. But there will be a coalition, the one getting together in Sharm El Sheikh later today, going to put together this coalition of Egypt, the Gulf states, Turkey, and they're going to come with this idea that we'll give billions of dollars to Gaza. Just give us East Jerusalem, give us the west bank and turn Israel into an indefensible state and we'll give you peace. And that will be the big question in the next Israeli election. If the Israeli electorate will have learned their lesson that giving territory leads to war and not peace. And that's the lesson that the far left has learned in Israel.

[Steve Bannon]

I tell you what, while we have time, we're going to take a break at the, at the top of the hour. It will be 4am Is that correct? Before a.m. in the United States. President Trump is hurdling now via motorcade with the Prime Minister. He's heading to the Knesset where he will address the Israeli people. I believe that there will actually be some hostages and some hostage families there beforehand. President Trump will get to meet them and to hear their stories and actually to, I think, embrace the moment. This moment would not have come. As Kurt Mills said and Ben Harnwell said so eloquently, this is 100% the act of what they call a juggernaut. President Trump, this is the force of personality, the force of will. He, as we try to do in football, he. He imposed his will onto various parties to make this happen. Of course, Bibi Netanyahu, not a fan of this deal. Tel Aviv, Levin and the Israel first crowd, not a fan of this deal. But like we say here in the war room, they brought it, they brought it on themselves. And I think Gilbert's absolutely correct. You got some pretty dicey characters, particularly Turkey. Right? Turkey's going to provide the security. Qatar and Saudi Arabia are going to provide provide the money. President Trump's got his work cut out for him. Remember, President Trump is the president of the Board of Peace and that is going to be quite a task, particularly with this cast of characters in their history. Throw into that you got Tony Blair, who I think's been on the Qatar payroll for a couple of decades. Anyway, we're gonna get to all of this. We're gonna take a short commercial break. Make sure you take your phone out. Text Abandoned at 989-898 get the Ultimate Guide for investing in gold and precious metals in the age of Trump. Today's a good day to check it out and talk to Philip Patrick and the team at Birch Gold. Back in a moment.

[Narrator/Announcer]

In the dead of the night when the world is sleeping, Real America's Voice is live this Monday, 2am Eastern. History takes flight. Donald J. Trump arrives in Israel leading a high stakes mission for peace and the long awaited release of hostages. After months of war and heartbreak, a breakthrough, a ceasefire, hostage releases and the first steps towards a lasting Jerusalem accord. Steve Bannon leads Real America's Voice live coverage, joined by powerful voices from Jerusalem as the world watches this historic.

[Steve Bannon]

Hostage have now been released as the president of Arsu Ganessa. Pretty good timing it. Margo, how are you? Great to see you. Pleasure to see you. So United States and the prime minister, they come in, they get some mics up. I don't know if President Trump will do a gaggle.

[Ben Harnwell]

Guys, guys, not in front of the camera.

[Joel Gilbert]

Not in front of the camera.

[Donald J. Trump]

Minister, over here.

[Steve Bannon]

It, this is where it falls, Jeffrey. The massive crowd to the right still in Hashtag Square. Pretty, pretty overwhelming. Huge day. Jerusalem Post has a God bless the peacemaker. Huge front page picture of President Trump. So as you can tell, he's gone next level with the Israeli, particularly people on the left that didn't really, I think, appreciate President Trump until he put the full force of his office and his personality into this. We're awaiting the arrival of the commander in chief here momentarily. They're pretty much on schedule. We now have heard that I guess all 20 of the hostages have been released. There's the Jerusalem. Look at that. Entire front page of the Jerusalem Post. God bless the peacemaker. President amazing photo of President Trump almost looks like his mugshot, which is probably the greatest photo it's ever been taken of him. But it shows you how far President Trump from trying to be destroyed by the deep state to now Actually bringing peace, at least on some sort of beginning basis or framework for it, in probably one of the most contentious parts of the world where, as President Trump said, they've been fighting each other for 3,000 years. We're awaiting his arrival. The prime Minister is already in. I think this. Kurt Mills, I think this speech to the Knesset is not going to be one of President Trump's one hour. I'm not so sure he's been going off the glass or off the. Off the prepared remarks. I think this will probably be 20 to 30 minutes. Your thoughts on that of what he's going to address to the Israeli people? Because there's still a lot of moving pieces to this deal.

[Kurt Mills]

Yeah, I'm not sure how long it will be. I'm not sure he'll hold them captive, so to speech, so to speak. But I think it's quite likely that he's going to make some pretty bold pronouncements here. Yes, the deal is the plane is being built as it's being flown, so to speak. But that's sort of, I mean, as you know how Trump does business and has done business throughout his career. So if there's any odds and ends on the debate, on the debate around the deal, if he feels the deal could be undermined by any of the parties, I think you may see oblique references to parts of the agreement that he wants to see solidified. And I think that's why it's so notable that he's not just going to Israel, he's immediately going to Egypt, he's immediately going to the Muslim world because he wants to square a huge deal on this. And I underscore before, as I reiterated from before, he doesn't want to come back to the Middle East a third time in the calendar year. I don't think. I think he wants to put a bow on this for now and then send Netanyahu to his constituents for an up or down vote on his performance. It's not his affair, not his problem anymore. Whether or not the Israeli side is going to agree to that, I think remains an open question. But I don't think he wants to see a war between metastasize. I don't think he wants to see a war open up with Iran. There was very, very, very interesting sub element going on this weekend or early this week where the president actually invited the Iranians to his big party in Egypt. The Iranians, from my perspective, unfortunately declined because they were bureaucratic and paranoid society, somewhat justifiably on the latter. But that shows you that. That the White House's mood right now is. It might be autumn, but it's springtime for diplomacy. Diplomacy, by all appearances.

[Steve Bannon]

By the way, didn't I think that. Aren't the Persians sending their foreign minister the President.

[Kurt Mills]

They're not coming.

[Steve Bannon]

But here comes the President of States.

[Donald J. Trump]

Mr. President.

[Steve Bannon]

Amirah, speaking of the Knesset. Yes.

[Joel Gilbert]

My partner alone.

[Steve Bannon]

Welcome to Jerusalem.

[Donald J. Trump]

Welcome to the Knesset. We've been longing for this day.

[Steve Bannon]

Great honor.

[Matt Farace]

Thank you.

[Steve Bannon]

It's our honor. Pleasure. Thank you very much.

[Donald J. Trump]

You guys know each other?

[Steve Bannon]

We know each other.

[Donald J. Trump]

Good.

[Steve Bannon]

Yes.

[Ben Harnwell]

Please.

[Kurt Mills]

Mr. President.

[Steve Bannon]

There'S a tradition of signing the book when you come to the Knesset on a formal visit. President will sign it right now. I think I saw Ambassador Monica Crowley in there a moment ago.

[Joel Gilbert]

And please hear.

[Steve Bannon]

Let's try again.

[Ben Harnwell]

Now.

[Joel Gilbert]

Here, please. To Abby, everyone.

[Steve Bannon]

And White House photographer, please.

[Donald J. Trump]

That.

[Steve Bannon]

Amen to that perfect.

[Matt Farace]

President.

[Steve Bannon]

From the obligatory signing of the log that he's been there with a greeting and the signature of only President Trump Ben Harnwell. As we move through here, I don't think I'm reading too much into it, but a little frosty between the Prime Minister and the President or I'm overreading this situation.

[Ben Harnwell]

No, no, no, no. As enjoyable as it is to watch the. The line of ceremony and the vassals lining up, I think that was the speaker of the Parliament, right? The speaker of the Knesset who tried to crack a joke saying, I believe you two sort of. You two guys know one another. You're absolutely right. It was frosty. After signing the book, I noticed he. He didn't shake the hand of the Prime Minister standing to his right either. So there was a. Somewhat of a scowl going on. That was absolutely, absolutely my reading of this as well. We're gonna find out, I suppose, in due course exactly what the conversations have been. But you know what? My summary of what we're seeing today is my would be this. It's the management of expectations. Whether today is a success or not is perceived as a success or not depends. I think it will revolve entirely around the management of expectations. So look, we're celebrating the release of the hostages. We're celebrating the confirmation of phase one. That is what I would say requires our appreciation and our applause. If we go beyond that, I think there might be potential down the road for. For slight, I don't know, inverted commas, disappointment. But these are stages that we're taking in due course. Obviously, the. There's a state of situation is not going to go away. And I think that's fundamentally where the issues are. Can I close, Steve, before handing back with you to saying this? I don't trust Bibi and I don't trust Hamas either. I don't trust either of them. It's going to be in both of their interests, I think, to try to frustrate and, and, and obs. Great, great obstacles to this.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah. Hang on for a second. You saw Ivanka and Jared right in back of the press. I think I saw Susie Whiles too. It's interesting, Kurt Mills, that Marco's not there. Pete Hex is not there. It looks like the entourage is, is really Witkoff.

[Donald J. Trump]

The.

[Steve Bannon]

Jared and Ivanka and Jared really and Wyckoff being the lead negotiators here. I don't see a lot of other of the President's cabinet or others with him. I believe Monica Crowley, the ambassador of protocol is there, but I don't see any Marco. I think that's, I think that's fairly. Of course, you get the. Let's hear the press. I want to hear the press shout the questions as they always do. Let's go ahead and, but cut the audio up. Rule.

[Kurt Mills]

Is the war now officially over?

[Donald J. Trump]

Yes. Do you have any message?

[Steve Bannon]

Mr. Will Israel not be able to renew the war?

[Matt Farace]

Thank you.

[Steve Bannon]

You know, Joel, people in the United States have been quite concerned about the security around all this. And I'll be honest with you, I, I don't, I think this is way too confusing and way too looks like un, unmanageable. I, I would, I, I mean, I just think there's too many people around, too much media around. I, I don't get this coming into Israel on the spur of the moment. Joel, you first and then Kurt. But I really, we're just taking the fee from people. But man, I just. Don't that right there look like they're just winging it? They're making up as they go along. Joe Gilbert, your thoughts?

[Joel Gilbert]

Yeah, I'm with you. I'm very nervous when I see that many people crowded around the President from so many different directions. Don't forget a lot of these people have weapons that are authorized to have weapons. But who knows if you know, somebody has a beef, you know, So I get a little nervous when there's not enough space between the President and a large crowd. What occurred to me just watching this is this whole spectacle is based on misunderstanding. I recall that, you know, I visited Israel and Gaza was a pretty peaceful place at one time, but Israel gave up Gaza to the PLO terror group under the guise of the idea that peace would break out, that all they really wanted was to have their own territory without Israelis and there would be peace. And people cheered and they had the square, and they sang songs and they danced, and immediately it just fell apart because the Israelis fundamentally did not understand that the Islamic world and the Palestinian Arabs did not want to accept Israel in any size or circumstance. And I believe that attitude remains the same today, and that's what they're going to encounter in the future. But it's all a result of this fundamental misunderstanding, is why they had the war and why Trump is even there today.

[Steve Bannon]

Ben Harnwell. I'll go to. I'm gonna go to Kurt in a second, but, man, I didn't like what I just saw. I'll be brutally frank with you. I would want this thing much. I want it high and tight when the President shows up. Remember, we went. We went to the Middle east in May of 2017. We worked on the security for months and months and months. The president, this decision was just made the other day. But I don't like the fact you show up, you got all these people milling around, you're doing all these activities, then you just walk into a mob of reporters and, you know, a couple of microfriends. I see they cut that off. But, man, somebody's got to be, you know, I think somebody's got to say, what is going on? There's been two assassination attempts on this guy. He's all we got, right? You don't have any. No backup to him. If we lose Trump now, I got to tell you, I'm very concerned and disappointed with what we've seen. I just think it looks very shoddy. Ever since they got to the Knesset, it. Ben Harnwell.

[Ben Harnwell]

Well, Steve, what's the underlying assumption here of what you're saying? Is it not the illustration of the fact that even though we're here today with all the crowds applauding the piece that is achieved so far, there is still the awareness that there are. That there is the potential that there will be agents who will try to frustrate this? That's really the subtext of what you're saying. Right. And that just illustrates, I think, how precarious the present position is. And when you say there's no one who can replace President Trump, that's absolutely right. And it goes back to what we were saying before. The feat of today, the achievement of today is President Trump's success and his alone because of his force of will, his force of charisma, and as you say, his force of personality. This is his day. And that, that of course, makes us. That that's why the precariousness of this situation is there. Because if he weren't there, then the situation would rapidly dissolve once again. And that's the subtext of what you're saying. That's. That's the. The importance of the security issue here, because we all know. So all watching the feed here, we're all sort of applauding and watching. We know that there are. That there is probably going to be some pockets somewhere of people who. Who will do what they can to frustrate this. And I think that's the confirmation of that. Right. The fact of this. This. No, no uneasiness. The uneasiness, as you see the chaos and the people in what, of course, the Israeli parliament is going to be a very highly secure zone anyway. So that the assumption is even within that environment, there could be malign forces waiting to strike. Illustrates how precarious is.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah, just when he shows up, you know, it's not a photo op for the press, by the way. They cut the feed. We're just taking the feed that they're providing. You saw the feed right there was. It was pretty chaotic. I mean, just a grunch of people around the president walking down that red carpet, going to what I guess were microphones that were going to, I don't know, say a few words and, and have a press gaggle. I just don't think it's just not the right time to do that. President ought to get into the. Like, he goes to the Capitol of the United States. He ought to. He ought to show up, ought to be a formal greeting for him, you know, sign the book. But then you're taken to the, to the back room. There's no kind of milling around that hallway. Had, the hallway had. Had, you know, a thousand people look like just kind of milling around, you know, wanting to see the president and the media right there. So it was very, you know, very. Think you can say confusing. And when the president, I. States goes to a place like Israel right now, and particularly Jerusalem, given the, you know, there's reports already in Gaza that, you know, some of the clans down there, they're having some payback already to people they say are collaborated with the Israelis. It's a. It's a very volatile situation. You know, we're a long way from peace. President Trump has laid out the architecture and his force of will has brought us to this to get the 20 hostages released into, you know, start the process of peace. But with all the celebration you've seen, this is why I think we've had Joe Gilbert on for the last couple days. You've had these type of outpourings before where people in Israel thought there was going to be peace and it ended up not being peace. Now I don't think there's ever been an outpouring around an individual like there is around President Trump. It's just extraordinary how they are relate. They're connecting President Trump to this day of getting the hostages back when even a couple weeks ago when Netanyahu went to the United nations. Looks like the farthest thing from the, from what was going to happen. Kurt Mills, your thoughts on I'm pretty upset about this thing in the Knesset. I just think it's unacceptable and you know, I put this on Bibi and his government and also the interaction with the U.S. government. But when the president I states comes into essentially a war zone and Israel is a war zone, you've had, as the president said, not Steve BANNON President said 60,000 casualties in two years. You know, pretty extraordinary. Kurt Mills, your thoughts on what we just saw at the, at the beginning of the Knesset, which I say was totally and completely unacceptable.

[Kurt Mills]

Yeah, I don't deign to presume but I would be a little, be a little surprised if the security was this self evidently shoddy on the Arab side. So we'll see hopefully what that looks like in a few hours. I do think it's interesting that he is traveling with such a light and quick footprint, at least on the front line. As you observed earlier. Rubio Hegseth and if I may, Mossad's own John Ratcliffe are not in the picture, just Jared and Ivanka and Steve Wyckoff, his close friend. That indicates in my view that Trump has kept this pretty close ranks, this decision making. As you indicated before, this seemed extremely unlikely during the UN And New York in late September. And I think the reality is people like to talk about structural forces of history. I think this is a great man, so to speak, moment of history. Trump made this decision himself and he's going with his family and close friends to try to get this across the finish line. And I think you're right, that was an icy reception from Benjamin Netanyahu and Sara Netanyahu. You know, the Trump Netanyahu relationship is certainly worth a book. I think it's certainly worth, it's certainly more than meets the eye. Netanyahu body language doesn't lie. He doesn't look super happy. His People look happier than him. And this, the production value on this is very fly by the seat of the pants, right? And you know, especially if everything that's going on, that's, that, that's, that's less than adequate. And it implies, you know, I don't want to speak too soon, but it implies a lack of enthusiasm within the Israeli state itself for the end of this war, even though, I mean, look how desperate this population is for the return of the hostages and for the end of the war. It just speaks to the sort of schizoid nature of Israeli society where the government is so much more harder line than so many good people in that country.

[Steve Bannon]

Well, you see the outpouring from the Israeli people in the square. Also the rest of the people at the Knesset greeting him were all smiles. And I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, president just spent 45 minutes in the, in the beast in the car from Ben Gurion Airport to the Knesset with Netanyahu. I mean they traveled together. And like I said, like I asked Joel when they started off, I'd like to be the fly on, you know, inside the car to hear that conversation. Clearly it wasn't hail fellow, well met. The President had his game face on when he showed up. I've seen that look before. That's not a, that's not the ebullent. You know, President Trump didn't. We got a shot inside the Knesset right now. But Bibi clearly was icy and you said he didn't shake his hand after he signed the book. He specifically went and shook the, was it the speaker of the Knesset's hand? And, but pretty evident, did not turn and you know, I don't want to read too much into that, but it was clearly icy when they got out of the car and got there. And I think it's because Bibi's not enthusiastic. This is a, this is a catastrophic defeat for the Israel first crowd here, Tel Aviv, Levin, that crowd, I'm sure they're banging their heads on the wall. It's a catastrophic defeat because they overreached, they pushed this Greater Israel project and it came crashing down around them. As the President states, when Bibi, he already took out the negotiating team for Iran, which we now know he bald faced lied to the American people. And quite frankly, John Ratcliffe, the CIA director should be hauled before the House about why he went, why he agreed with the Mossad's assessment that this thing was days or weeks away from a nuclear weapon. When the cabinet minutes in the cabinet debate was released by the times of Israel. And they agreed that it was a minimum of two years of which we said here in the war room, he, they went to kill the negotiating team that Steve Wyckoff was supposed to meet with in Oman that Sunday. And really the hit the trip, our President Trump was Netanyahu. Without, you know, without talking the United States went and did a missile attack into Qatar and to take out the negotiating team of Hamas. I mean, how are you going to make a deal? How are you going to try to get the hostages back with, without doing that? Okay, we're gonna try to take one more commercial break here. If the president, if they, if he walks into the chamber, the Knesset will jump out of a commercial break. From the 4 o' clock hour. We have Ben Harnwell, Joel Gilbert, Kurt Mills about to be joined by others as we return to Jerusalem. The president is about to address the nation of Israel. And we will be back momentarily. If the president walks out, we will cut the commercial break and come right back. Back in a moment in the war room. Name we're in a modern day holy war coming after the mind define your soul.

[Jack Posobiec]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, welcome back. The president's in the Knesset and he'll be coming out to address the state of Israel, the nation and the people here momentarily. We'll cut right to that. Matt Farrachi, you're outside, you're near the Knesset with a great shot. Tell us what's going on.

[Matt Farace]

Hey, Steve. Well, I thought I would add some fun, a little bit of flavor and color to this day. First of all, you commented on the slightly chaotic scene when the president came in. Correct. Just a few minutes ago, that is the Knesset. It is, it is. People forget this is a country full of Jews. I think the prime minister said once, many years ago, the problem with being prime minister is that you're prime minister of a nation of prime ministers. So it is a little bit. You know, when I take visitors to the Knesset, they're always surprised at the decorum. You know, it's not like the US Congress where there's a lot of decorum. There is process, but there's people yelling at each other. It's like a big family Thanksgiving special all the time, but with politics thrown in. Another thing, fun thing I thought I'd share with your viewers today. So as the president was pulling up, we heard the sound of the shofar. Now, the shofar is a ram's horn. It's an ancient thing from the Bible. It's been used for Thousands of years for many purposes, including at the Temple. It's used at this time of year during the Jewish high holidays for religious purposes. But I heard something I never thought I'd hear in my life, which was the ram's horn going, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. And they were. They were blowing them as the president was showing up, which was just an extraordinarily cool thing. You kind of got to be here to understand how significant that is. But hold it. Everybody in Israel is celebrating.

[Steve Bannon]

Tell me what. What's the musical instrument? And what do they do? They play Hail to the Chief on what kind of musical instrument?

[Matt Farace]

Yeah, it's. It's literally a ram's horn. So if you guys Google it, it's a big. I wish I had one with me. They're about. They're anywhere from this little to, you know, a foot or two long. And it only, you know, to blow a note out of it, to blow a tune out of. It's hard because it's not like a trumpet. It doesn't have. It doesn't have. You know, there's no way you can change the key. So whoever was doing that was exceptionally talented, but there was a couple folks doing it. Just picture Steve almost like, I hate to mention Disney, since we both have a healthy disdain for that institution. But, you know, you picture the old Disney movies when the king is showing up and they would play the trumpets in like a, you know, kingly court situation, maybe kind of a similar analogy. But we heard them blowing them as the president was showing up today. And it wasn't coming from there. It was coming from the neighborhood around the Knesset.

[Steve Bannon]

Wow. Amazing. Matt, hang on for a second. I want to go to shove up balcony. An American activist that spends a lot of time in Israel. Sheva, you've been doing amazing work up with the Druze in Syria, Lebanon. You're in Jerusalem today. And we're going to have to cut to the President as soon as they come to the Knesset, but give us your perspective. Put us in the room in Jerusalem about the celebratory nature of today.

[Sheva Balkani]

Hi, Steve. Thanks for having me. So the feeling in Jerusalem today and in Israel is unbridled jubilation. Everybody is so happy, excited that their family is being returned. And I do want to point out that this is a distinction between Israel and Hamas, that there is such a cherished feeling for the sanctity of life. If you look at the numbers only, it's 20 living hostages for being exchanged for 2,000 prisoners and murderers. So if you look at the footage of everything that's being shown here, every single person in Israel is celebrating today, is celebrating America loving Trump, dancing like their own brother son is returning because they are.

[Steve Bannon]

Is. Is the candle worth the game? I realize you're getting 20 hostages back, and you can see the nations united around that, but even part of the minimum, part of the deal is 2,000 prisoners. I think the top 250 were some of the hardest, were some of the hardest terrorists that Hamas had. Now, obviously, the senior command of Hamas has been killed over the last couple of years by the idf, but has that sunk into people that, that you're, you're exchanging from Israeli prisons? Two thousand, you know, bad hombres. But, but in, in that 2000, you got, I think, 250 of the top people that are designated as actual terrorists.

[Sheva Balkani]

Oh, yeah. And everybody that I've spoken to is not happy about that at all. I think there's been a divide where they are celebrating the return family. Israel really was stuck in the heaviness and pain of the separation of the hostages and the brutal torture that these hostages were going through and bringing them home was essential for Israel to move to the next step, which is protecting their people. And that next step is going to be harder now that these 2,000 murderers are released. 135 of the 2,000 are going to international countries. So that's something for the international community to keep in mind, because these are not, you know, thieves on the street. These are people that thrive on murdering, people that don't, that are not aligned with their philosophy, which is Western values, which is America, which is everything that we stand for.

[Steve Bannon]

Joe Joel Gilbert, would the people that built the nation of Israel, particularly the folks in 67 or 73, would they have made this deal? Would they have, and would they have been strung out for two years, part of this because of a hostage situation, sir?

[Joel Gilbert]

No, it changed over time. Back in the 60s, they might have changed. They might have exchanged one terrorist for each individual hostage, like 20. You know, it evolved over the years up to the point where BIBI Netanyahu released 1,000 prisoners back in 2011 for one Israeli soldier, Gilad Shalit, in Gaza that was kidnapped. And one of them was Sinwar, who became the head of Gaza, the head of Hamas, and perpetrated the war. So there's great concern when you release these 2,000 terrorists. It's pretty well known that Hamas believes that when they lost all their leadership to Israeli assassination, they felt, well, they'll just be replaced by these guys coming out of prison at some point. And that certainly is their intention, that they're going to draw their new leadership from these terrorists who have been in prison all these years. So, no, back in the 60s, maybe they would release one for one. Somehow I think Bibi had a big part of it, was saying, well, okay, we'll give you one for a thousand. And that's part of what motivated, I think, Hamas even to embark on the October 7th attack in the first place, because they knew if they take hostages, they can hold the country of Israel hostage and ultimately release thousands of their prisoners. They don't care about losing 60,000 people in Gaza. The average family has 10 children. That's just the average 10 children. And it's paid for by the UN so they don't mind. They expect if they lose one or two kids per family, to them, it's just part of the price of fighting Israel. And they're Shahidin. They're. They're martyrs. So it's a completely different mindset. It's Israel's strength and it's its weakness that it puts so much value in each individual person.

[Steve Bannon]

Ben Harwell, president's been there now for a few minutes. He was supposed to spend a few minutes. I don't know if he's meeting with hostage families, but I believe the conversation with Netanyahu and the president probably continuing on. Do you think that's going to have any impact on what the president says in his remarks? Kurt Mills, can I toss that question to you?

[Kurt Mills]

Yes, of course.

[Dave Brat]

Yeah.

[Kurt Mills]

I mean, I think this will be directed by Trump pretty overtly, I do think. I just, I can't keep emphasizing enough. He's not in Israel very long. Trump seems to want to speak to the Israeli political class. He seems to want to speak to the Israeli population, and then he wants to get out of dodge. And I think that's a pretty overt decision. I would remind that Trump did not visit Israel on his last trip to the region in May, and that also appeared to be an intentional maneuver. I take what the co panelist says very well, but the reality is that Gaza and Hamas don't have that many cards, to use the president's words. No country in the world has a fertility rate of 10. Gaza, basically, as far as anyone understands, has a fertility rate of somewhere between 3 to 4, which has been declining since the 2000s. Hamas is running out of people as well. Some of their political bureau could be replenished by this hostage exchange. But most of the hardliners the ones who planned the October 7th massacre, have been assassinated. Mohamed Al Dif, the mastermind, Ismail Haniyeh, the political leadership in Doha, which is unclear if they ever even knew about the October 7th attack, have been eliminated. Sinwar has been killed. And I do think Trump is probably subtly delivering the message. The strike on Doha in late September was the watershed moment. And the reality is that Netanyahu missed, he didn't kill most of the Hamas negotiators that he sought to kill. And the reality is this deal, and Trump wants to call it, and I think you're gonna see it there. Trump is gonna talk to Netanyahu today for a shorter amount of time than we are talking together this morning for four hours. And I think that speaks volumes. Trump has done a lot for Israel, Trump has done a lot for Benjamin Netanyahu. I think more than he deserves. And I think this is. He wants to call it. It's hard to imagine. If they ink this deal and the Israelis try to start up a new war with Iran, I think they might find themselves in worse position than they might imagine. That ceasefire in June, a lot of murky stuff on that. I think it was, at the end of the day, brokered on behalf of the Israelis. They were running out of interceptors. And if, if Israel tries to broaden this war and stick the bill with Uncle Sucker, I think it's going to be cold.

[Steve Bannon]

It's, it's, it's impossible. It's impossible. The Persian, the Persian fantasy is over. I mean, the total obliteration, Joel. And by the way, the, the, the, the, I don't say the attitude, but one of the issues the world has, and I think the reason that President Trump continues to say that people are loving Israel now, and he told Netanyahu, you can't take on the world is the dehumanization of the Palestinian population. And we've got to remember there's not an insignificant amount of Christians in Palestine. And I know this from Christians. I know they've done relief work there. They are absolutely 100% anti IDF, anti Israel. And they said Israel has been, has been essentially in. I'm not saying this, but they say it's been genocide, what they've seen. How do you respond to that? Because clearly the world's. I mean, one of the reasons Netanyahu is up against the wall is he's lost tremendous political support here in the United States.

[Joel Gilbert]

Let me get a few comments. Look, Hamas deliberately dragged out the war with the assist from the Biden administration, especially at the beginning by dribbling out hostages, you know, 10 at a time or 20 at a time, and refused to end the war. So because they dragged it out for so long, one reason they did that because they knew that they were winning the PR game over time. But I believe that Trump understands that the United States cannot exist as the lone democracy in the world between two oceans. United States must have strong democratic allies around the world, including Australia, Japan, Western Europe and Israel. And I think Trump understands and people.

[Steve Bannon]

We just need to have to go. We have to go. We have to go to a break. We got to go to a break. We're going to be back with President Trump comes in the Knesset. We'll cut right to it. But I will make the argument to Joel Gilbert that Israel is not an ally of the United States, they're a protectorate of the United States. Short break back War Room, here's your.

[Jack Posobiec]

Host, Stephen K. Ban.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, can we put, let's pull that shot up of the Knesset right there. Really magnificent. The president is going to momentarily. I think he actually may be meeting at least with some of the families of the hostages behind the scenes. We are running about on the, on the program of what they let about an hour behind. And I think the president remarks are going to be at least 30 minutes. And if the president, as he often does freelance is a little bit, it'll go longer, but we'll have to see about that. Still massive enthusiasm in Tel Aviv at, at hostage Square right there, the Knesset. The president will be coming out momentarily and we will cut to that live. We want to hear all of it. Joel, the overall for the hostages, I think there were 250 taken. My young production team here is pretty shocked that we get down to the end of it. There's only 20 that are still alive and I'm sure some of those are in pretty bad shape. I know some of the early hostages released were in bad shape. All the female hostages and American hostages have been released a while ago. But you know, they're the vast. I think the majority of hostages didn't make it out alive. Am I correct on that?

[Joel Gilbert]

The number I have is 155 made it out alive. I also think about the mistake that the United states made after 911 we lost 3,000 people at the World Trade center and then we went and lost 7,000 soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. Similarly, Israel was trying to save 250 hostages and they lost about 800 soldiers fighting in Gaza ostensibly to get these hostages back. So there's some real tragic Military calculations when it comes to trying to get these hostages back, they, they did lose. All they did was, you know, destroy most of Gaza, but lost 800 people trying to get 200 out and ended up with only 155 in the end.

[Steve Bannon]

Why has there not been any inquiry? I realize you've been at war, but in the, in the early years of World War II, when we finally got dragged in after December 7th, I think we had in the first two years three or four major inquiries into Pearl Harbor. Now I think we ended up with seven or eight. We've never really gotten the answer straight about exactly what happened and who knew what at what time. But has it surprised you? There hasn't been any inquiry into the 7th of October?

[Joel Gilbert]

I think they've had some low level internal IDF type of probes. Why didn't they, you know, why didn't they have proper positioning of forces down there? I think the Mossad had some internal things. Some people did resign, but the idea in Israel was that we really can't have a big inquiry while the war is going on. And I think people mostly respected that. Netanyahu made the case that we can't all go and hire lawyers right now. We're trying to win a war. The Iran thing came up, so I do expect it to come up. The Israelis became complacent over 20 years. They simply shuffled Qatari money into Hamas and felt that they could buy them off and they wouldn't be interested in war. And they obviously badly miscalculated and have paid the price.

[Steve Bannon]

I mean, was it shocking to you that President Trump's here today on a, on a day to actually bringing the remaining hostages home? 20 males, I understand now the final 13 have been, have been turned over. The planning that went into October. So, I mean, Jack Posobic, I got him on the show by phone that morning as we did the Saturday war room, as we always do, and we covered it live. And it was pretty stunning, the scale of it. I mean, it was over 40 miles. It was air, sea, land. They had what the paragliders. They eventually found out they had floor plans for many of the kibbutzes. They absolutely knew about the Nova Music festival and what to do there. They actually knew who the guards were on different guard towers. I mean, the level of sophistication of their knowledge was shocking. And given the Hamas has never been known as a particularly, you know, they're terrorists, but haven't been known for military operations. This was to pull off a military operation. Did that shock you? At the time of how sophisticated that operation was.

[Joel Gilbert]

Well, look, it was sophisticated, but it was also very low tech. 9 11, it was eight guys with box cutters. And because it was so low tech, they were able to penetrate the system. So too in Gaza they had about 6,000 fighters on bicycles, tractors and walking around in sandals and motorcycles. So it was so low tech. I think the Israelis did not anticipate something that low tech. Hamas had done recon for years and knew where to go and what they were doing, but it was a very low tech assault. They had smuggled over plenty of weapons from Egypt for years and you know, it was an assault that kind of shocked us all. But no, I wasn't shocked because of the, it was all manpower. They had 6,000 people, a bunch of rifles and a bunch of motorcycles. And they encountered a defenseless group of kibbutzim that did not have proper defense installations to guard against that kind of low tech attack back.

[Steve Bannon]

And as you had mentioned, many of the people in the kibbutzes and the people at the Nova, or the Burning man as I call it, had actually befriended people in Palestine, had taken them to hospitals and kids to school.

[Joel Gilbert]

Yeah.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, we're gonna take a break here at the top of the hour. Hang on, we'll get to that when we get back. We're gonna take a break at the top of the hour. It's close to 5am in the United States. Dave Brat is going to join us. The President, like I said, we're running probably on the schedule. I don't know, an hour behind. The President's going to address the Knesset. I think he's behind the scenes meeting with some hostage families and probably spending some more time with the Prime Minister. His speech to the nation of Israel is, is next and we're going to return if a president walks out. Dornoch, we're marshall break. We'll come back right back. Shava Balcony, Matt Ferrazi, Joel Gilbert, our own Ben Harnwell and of course Kurt Mills. We'll be joined by Dave Bratt. Special coverage for real America's voice in the war room of the historic trip to Israel by the President. United States back in a moment.

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[Steve Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Christians not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

[Matt Farace]

And where do people like that go.

[Steve Bannon]

To share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

[Jack Posobiec]

War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

[Steve Bannon]

It's Monday the 13th of October in the year of our Lord 2025. It is Columbus Day here in the United States of America and it's a day of peace in the Middle east and particularly in Israel and in Gaza today. President United States Commander in Chief is there, by the way, the eagle eye of the war room posse informs me and I think I saw him too. Little Marco is there. Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State. He was in that fiasco that was in the Knesset, which was totally unacceptable and unsat and someone in secret service or President Trump's security has got to be, you know, hey, I realize you're going over there spur the moment, but you, you, you have to be in charge. That thing was embarrassing and we're going to cut that footage on the 10 o' clock show today. I'm on go through it again because I thought it was very dangerous and people, particularly the war on Posse are concerned about President Trump's security. Already had two assassination attempts and President Trump is basically all we got between ourselves and the abyss. So it has to be extra careful. Kurt Mills I think we're right. There is a hang up and because we're running a little late and part of that now it's being reported by Israeli media that there's a little negotiation going on. I think the background that actual Netanyahu will be going to Egypt for the meeting this afternoon, it's not confirmed yet.

[Kurt Mills]

Based on my assessment of the available sources, he is speaking to Egyptian President Sisi right now, he being Prime Minister Netanyahu, I don't really understand why it would leak that his attendance is contingent. He's already not confirmed. And now that the call is happening, it's still unclear if he's going to attend. So it would be sort of bizarre if at the end of this, that he didn't attend. But it appears to be on offer that he may, in fact, go. Of course, Egypt is not one of the countries that Netanyahu is, generally speaking, the most comfortable going to. He has a reprochement, basically, with uae, Saudi. But, you know, Egypt is, of course, home to Cairo, the largest city in the Arab world, where, you know, the Arab street's not that fond of the Israeli state. And so there may be security concerns to get Netanyahu in, well, this minute. But again, it does speak.

[Steve Bannon]

Just. But you have to go. You are, you are going to the, you are going to the resort. So it's. By the way, Egypt is the home of the, the birthplace of the Muslim Brotherhood. Right. And filled with Muslim Brotherhood everywhere. And Qatar may be their new financier and their new sponsor. Go ahead, sir. Yeah.

[Kurt Mills]

It costs CC political capital, though, internally, to host Netanyahu. Right. I mean, and this is, this is.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah. Can you, can you. But can you have an overall. Well, President Trump says this is a peace. This is a peace conference. You got Macron showing up because he's got to stick his mouth in something, Right. Obviously his country's about to implode. The Fifth Republic is about to get swept out to sea, but he's got time to go here. You got, Sir, Keir Starmer, you got Maloney, you got. I think the Germans may show up. You got every deadbeat in, in, in Europe that wants a 10. Wouldn't it be odd to try to have this without. Because I think I said earlier the Palestinian Authority was going to attend. Wouldn't it be odd to invite the Persians and not have the Israelis who, whether you like them or not, have got to be a central part of this, Sir.

[Kurt Mills]

Presumably the Israelis have been invited. I mean, I don't know what they would be discussing right now if there wasn't an open invitation. So if Washington and the Arab world didn't invite them, that would be news to me. I think what is going on here is something we just, we spoke earlier in the programming this morning, is Netanyahu's lack of commitment to ending the war. He may argue that Gaza is Done for the moment. The last ceasefire held less than 60 days. He may argue that Gaza is done for the moment, but this is a license to expand into Yemen, Lebanon and Iran. And so accordingly, giving his.

[Joel Gilbert]

The.

[Kurt Mills]

The blessing of his presence in Egypt could be seen as a signal that he is on board with the peace deal, which is of course not fully the case, which is why you see this sort of difficult tango.

[Ben Harnwell]

Yeah.

[Kurt Mills]

Additionally, I think you see, and I was just going to say the sort of ramshackle nature of the organization here, like pick a lane, attend or not. Right. I mean, obviously a lot of life is contingent, but it is fairly extraordinary that Netanyahu is apparently negotiating with the Egyptian president right now while we await the President of the United States address to the Knesset. You know, this is just not the most ideal ally. I know it's in a tough neighborhood. I know it's an. It's at war, but it'd be hard to imagine this in Germany or Britain or France or Japan.

[Steve Bannon]

Well, yeah, I think this is like you said, we're building the plane as we fly the plane. Shava Balkani. What do the Israelis want to hear today and what do you think they must hear from the President of the United States in this address to the nation from the Knesset?

[Sheva Balkani]

Inherited a really disastrous situation from the last administration and he did an amazing job in getting the hostages back and moving forward. However, I am looking forward to a day that America becomes a nation again. Again that does not negotiate with terrorists. And Hamas is a terrorist organization that will never change its stripes. It's an ideology that is heavy in extreme Islam, which, you know, does not align with Western civilization, American ideals. And in that way, America will always stand with Israel and their concerns over a permanent ceasefire are heard. You know, the coming days will show us what is going to unfold. But Hamas cannot be trusted. They are terrorists and they are dangerous for the world at large.

[Steve Bannon]

Sheva, where can people get you on social media? We'll try to have you back here before. Before the President punches out of Israel and goes heads to Egypt. What in the interim, what is your social media? Where can people follow you?

[Sheva Balkani]

I just have a personal page which is my name Shiva Balcony. But my non for profit to help widows and families affected by the war is with heart and honor.org that's with heart and honor.org is on thank.

[Steve Bannon]

With heart and honor and what, what, what do you. What's the. Yeah, what's the purpose? What do you guys do at heart and Honor?

[Sheva Balkani]

We help families, especially widows and moms who lost sons with moral support and whatever they may need.

[Steve Bannon]

Sheva, thank you for joining us. Look forward to having you back on maybe in the 10 o' clock hour of the war Room. Thank you. Thank you, girl. Ben Harnwell to Kurt Mills. I'd look, we are making this up as we go along. The president is, is great on calling audibles. He's the guy that brings people together. But I do think even this afternoon, this, this has a slightly shambolic feel to. It does not. And my concern, my primary concern is security for the President, United States. I am really upset.

[Joel Gilbert]

Why?

[Steve Bannon]

I saw in the Knesset it and I realized Matt Fracci said, hey, look, the thing runs a little loose, right? You know, they're normally having shouting matches with each other that it's not the decorum, if you can call decorum, what we see in the House of Representatives. But does that give you concern? That particularly? It's pretty uncertain right now. And I keep arguing, I said, hey, look, it's obvious to me that this is the beginning of a two state solution, something Netanyahu swore just two weeks ago. In fact, I have the Wall Street Journal right here from two weeks ago when he addressed the UN and two thirds of the UN Got up and walked out of his speech to show this disdain for him. And he, you know, Netanyahu doesn't care. He gives as good as he gets. He's kind of, you know, telling them when you leave, hey, you can do anything you want, you can assault me, you can do anything. But there's never going to be a Palestinian state. This afternoon in Egypt, you're going to have the beginning of what is a two state solution. You're going to have the beginning of a Palestinian state. Two million Palestinians are going to remain there. They're going to completely redevelop it. Tens of billions, if not hundreds of billions of dollars are going to come in from the Gulf Emirates. Supposedly this is the deal. And the Turks are somehow going to put together some security force. By the way, there's the president. I think we're about to go. Ben, the shambolic nature of this, given that they're trying to negotiate, Netanyahu going this afternoon.

[Ben Harnwell]

Well, I don't want to overplay this, but the potential, you know, given all the various dynamics in the world at the moment, it's a bit like the Archduke Franz Ferdinand right now. And President Trump has that weight on his shoulders. There are so many dynamics in the world that literally depend on him.

[Steve Bannon]

And.

[Ben Harnwell]

His being president right now. And there are a Lot of evil forces in the world as well. So yeah, it's shambolic. Is the shambles, is it a feature or is it a bug at the moment? Strange, because normally Mossad had have the reputation of drilling these things, security things in Israel, in the Knesset, like no other intelligence security operators on the face of the planet. So to see these things does raise a question, Mark, a legitimate question. Steve, look, if you give me one minute, I just want to quickly respond something because it is important. What you were saying earlier on the show, I think it was with Kurt, about the prior warning that Israel may have had about the 7 October attacks. No less an authority than the New York Times. Okay, so the New York Times, not the war room, not Gateway or anything like that. This is not the National Post. The New York Times ran an in depth article about a year and a half ago. Yeah, a year and a half ago. Basically suggesting that the, that Netanyahu had been briefed beforehand that something like October 7th was brewing. They had a 40 page document called from memory Operation Jericho War. Right. That they did. They've got from Hamas, which had plans of a hang glider paraglider attack and Netanyahu did nothing. Now there are, there's, we can go into that later on the show in the time that remains to us. But the, the subtext to the New York Times article was that allowing this to take place, the massacre, the outrage to take place, was convenient for Netanyahu, whose ratings before October 7th were in the tank and afterwards just catapulted into stratospheric levels. So that's the situation. And I say that's not Ben Harnwell saying that was the New York Times a year and a half ago.

[Steve Bannon]

We have Dave Brat. I want to bring Dave Bratt in here before the President goes to the podium and addresses Dave Brat. Your thoughts so far? You're joining us here in the five o' clock hour. We've been rolling since what, two? And I think the footage has been amazing, what we've seen from the Israeli people, this outpouring for the hostages. Although I think we have a consensus that for as much as the outpouring is, there's a lot of hard truths that are coming out today, and particularly in Egypt at this conference. Your thoughts are as you join us?

[Dave Brat]

Yeah, I think that's right. I think Ben Harnwell hit it on the head as well when he said, you know, this day, this peace, which is hugely significant, is reliant on one man. And so that's always problematic, but I do have a counter take. And that is, you know, the New York Times, the headline right now isn't that pleasant. You know, why couldn't it have been sooner? The Washington Post, you know, no rave reviews. But the one good thing about today is the transparency. Even if it's gonna be brutal, right. I think the American people are gonna learn, right? And both sides are gonna see both sides, the warts and all. And that ugliness may actually propel a hard piece forward. You know, Hamas is not, you know, given all the statements the world wants to hear right now about moving forward with goodwill, even Israel is going to be reluctant to say the war is over for good. But I think when people see what's been going on over the past couple of years and really dig in a little bit more than they have, this day will show the world, both sides. And so thank God for Donald Trump. It is a great day. The hostages are coming home. There is a moment of peace here. We're all keeping our fingers crossed and praying for this peace because as the other analysts have been saying all morning, this thing is connected to a web, to a tinderbox of other world events. But getting this and the other seven countries related to this, right, that's the, you know, the US interests and Israel's interests haven't always been perfectly aligned on this.

[Steve Bannon]

Right.

[Dave Brat]

The, the U.S. wants peace with all seven economic development. We got other things to do. We got to move on. And the Ukraine thing and then move on to China. And so if this can hold, it's a great day.

[Steve Bannon]

I want to go transparency just, I want to, for the audience. We're going to turn over the coverage at 6, which is about 45 minutes to Steve Gruber. And Steve Gruber is then going to lead into the, into the morning show. We're going to be back at 10:00am for the, for a war room. And we plan on being covering at least the beginning of the Egyptian part of this. And then President Trump is actually going to fly back tonight. He's not going to stay overnight in Egypt. So this is a one day trip. That's Herculean, essentially four hours in Israel. And I think there was going to be two or three hours in Egypt at the conference. I'm sure that's going to extend, particularly since this is taking longer. So if President Trump takes the podium and his speech goes, and as President Trump has been known to do when he gets wound up, he'll normally go longer than 40, 45 minutes. If that happens, I will come on and tell you when we're turning over to Steve Gruber, and Steve Gruber will bring it back. And I want to thank Real America's Voice. The coverage today has been fantastic. Once again, just the logistics of this extraordinary. I want to thank the Denver team, Palm beach, all of it, for jumping in here. Brad, go back. What do you mean transparency of it? I mean, we've been covering this since the president left yesterday afternoon. We've had great analysts on, you know, Joel Gilbert's joined us, the great Kurt Mills. We've had poso, and we've been breaking this down. And what you see is kind of in front of you. And you actually saw, I think, today, you know, the president, you know, had Witkoff there and Jarrett there and Ivanka there. Marco was on the plane with him, obviously. But there seemed to be a kind of a frostiness between Netanyahu and the president. I don't want to overplay that too much, but it seemed like it definitely was something. What do you mean by transparent? And what is it that's transparent? And why is that a good thing right now?

[Dave Brat]

Yeah, well, the war room's been covering this, but, you know, we're all the politico Die Hards, you know, every day we follow all of it. But the American people now and the major papers, you know, the Financial Times, New York Times, Washington Post, they're all gonna be begrudgingly have to cover this great day where President Trump is not a fascist and not a Nazi and not a, you know, evildoer and whatever. He's bringing peace to the Middle east, which. Which has eluded everybody for 50 years. And so there's going to be a lot of press coverage on this today, but the details are going to come out, right? How many soldiers have died in this process? What has happened to the people on the ground in Palestine, the rubble footage. A lot of this, you know, has not been fully covered to say, to put it politely. And so as that comes out, the wounds are going to get deeper, right, on both sides. There's going to be gory details which no one wants to hear about on a day of peace and going forward. But the goriness of that, of that news and of the coverage, I think on all sides is going to lead. Maybe this just. It's my prayer that it moves this way.

[Steve Bannon]

Right.

[Dave Brat]

All the forces are in place for this to cave, in my view.

[Steve Bannon]

Right.

[Dave Brat]

But the hopeful piece is that now everyone is gonna see the gory details on both sides and say, we cannot have this anymore. And I think that'll give President Trump a little bit more leverage with the public will. Right. You just look at the news, you hear from the pro war folks versus look at the people on the street in Israel. They clearly want peace. Even that. That's kind of a breaking news piece psychologically, maybe for a lot of Americans to see that and for the rest of the world to see that. And so on the Hamas side, we'll see. They're going to interview people and you've been seeing just the innocents interviewed running back to their homes and hoping there's something left, you know, woman, you know, yesterday on the news clips, wanting to see if there's a blanket or a pillow or anything left because the winter's coming, you know. And so those stories as they come out, that's going to be full transparency, hopefully, you know, for 48 hours at least. And I think that's going to put a whole new level of introspection on both sides to say not go back to war, but, you know, a one false flag operation by either side. And that's what I'm worried about, right? Some bomb goes off by accident, somebody gets bombed, somebody, you know, some incident is planted. And I'm very, like you said, I'm very worried about President Trump's safety today. You cannot have any mishaps and his folks need to clear him out of there if there's anything that's not been completely vetted ahead of time. And so those are my initial thoughts. Start this great day.

[Steve Bannon]

People are starting to come in, so we're going to go momentarily. I want to get Gilbert in here. By the way, what happened in the basement of Knesset today when he first got there was not acceptable in any level. If we don't without Trump, you're overlooking the abyss right now. Without Trump, we got nothing. Okay? That's how this is why I continue to say he's like General Washington, President Lincoln and Trump. And for all his flaws, okay, for add up all the flaws and he's still what we have between ourselves and in the abyss. Joe Gilbert. Brett brings up a brilliant point. Point. You're going to have all the stories of the 20 hostages, the folks that were kept to the end. You're going to have all the brutality of that. Plus the media is now going to get into Gaza, which has been blocked, and you're going to see something that looks like Dresden in World War II. In addition, you're going to have some details leak out this afternoon, maybe even something signed in Egypt that I'm not quite sure the Israeli people in the euphoria about the Hashis coming back have quite processed what's really going down here. Is that transparency going to throw this whole thing off the rails.

[Joel Gilbert]

Sir, I think there's too many moving parts. You've got these terrorists being released in Gaza, west bank, all over the world. People are going to be concerned about what they're doing. There's going to be this economic initiative coming out of Egypt that Trump's going to be a part of. There's going to be, you know, bulldozers all over Gaza clearing rubble. There's going to be so much going on, I don't think it's going to get distracted with what's happened in the past. I wanted to mention this very interesting story when the. When Hamas kidnapped people and put them in these golf carts and were driving them into Gaza from the Israeli kibbutzim, there was one girl, they showed the video about a teenage girl, and she said to her captor, she said, where are we going? And he said, we're going to Gaza. And she said, oh, I have friends in Palestine. And that just shows you the gap in understanding that these Israeli kibbutzim thought they were befriending the Gazans all this time. They had made friends, they took them to hospitals, they hosted them, and they thought they were creating a friendship. But from the Islamic and Gazan point of view, they really hated the Israelis all along, and they view them as inferior, not people that you can have equal relations with or recognize their state. So that gap remains that the, the Muslim, Palestinian Arabs don't hate Israel, they don't want an Israeli state, they don't want peace with it. And somehow all this money is supposed to go into Gaza and solve that problem. It's never really solved that problem. And I think that we got much more trouble ahead than. Than thinking that things will come out from what happened in the past. So I think we're going to turn our eyes to the Knesset speech and then to what's going to happen in Egypt.

[Steve Bannon]

Kurt, get us up to speed. What? There's clearly something going on behind the scenes right now. We know at least part of it has to do with the meeting in Egypt. Is Netanyahu going, not going? What's the latest? We know.

[Kurt Mills]

Still no confirmation, to my knowledge, about Netanyahu's attendance in Egypt. Obviously, something has occurred that required Sisi and Netanyahu to get on the phone with each other right before the president's speech, the Knesset. So there could be some subterfuge or Negotiations occurring that we're not currently aware of. Hamas has released all 20 of these remaining Israeli living, living Israeli hostages. So we would now move to phase two of the deal, the disarmament, etc. So it's not clear why the logistics of this have to be so painstakingly negotiated minute by minute. I mean, I know this is human affairs, but something seems to be, definitely seems possible to be up. If I had to bet it's probably a Netanyahu attendance in Egypt, but for some reason that is seen as deeply controversial either to the Palestinian side or the Arab side writ large.

[Steve Bannon]

What about Dave Bratt's point about transparency? Today you're going to have all the stories of the hostages and I'm sure the last 20 are going to be some stories are going to be quite brutal about their treatment. Also you're going to have the media now in for the first time, I think over the next couple of days to see the devastation in Gaza up close and personal, which they have been, they have been restricted. And you're going to have some elements of this deal which I continue to say is because it's definitely the proto two state solution, right? With Qatar and the Saudis big financial sponsors and the Turks as a big security sponsor, as that gets absorbed to the Israeli people, where do you think we're going to or to the world? What's going to happen, you think in the next couple days is the world is really going to have to confront the brutality of the war, but also the brutality of what happened to these individuals?

[Kurt Mills]

Yeah, I think it's going to be a media cyclone. So it's going to be hard to say which way it breaks. The Israeli PR machine, and it is a machine, is going to kick into high gear. The reality though is that the testimonials of the hostages and the hostages families themselves are a real mixed bag for the Israeli Prime Minister, to put it mildly. The hostages families, I'd say broadly speaking, have been protesting and lobbying the government to end this war sooner. And the hostages themselves may be in no condition to give media testimonials, understandably. And if they do, they may bemoan the degree to which they were held in captivity. Why didn't their own government negotiate for the release sooner? And of course it's because the hostages release was just one of a number of objectives pursued by Netanyahu, not the sole objective. As for the Palestinian side, look, there's already been reports of 200 bodies uncovered in the rubble. Obviously that's just a fraction of the Number that is due to be recovered and due to be sadly put into the tally of this war. And people I trust in the region have long said, look, reporters and documentarians basically can't get into Gaza. And as this is uncovered and as, and it's already been horrifically covered, I mean, the stuff that has been smuggled out, but as this is uncovered, this could very well be the largest crime scene in the world. It's going to be ghastly.

[Steve Bannon]

By the way you talk about the Israeli machine, the, the, the, the, the Islamist in the Muslim Brotherhood got a pretty good machine, too. I mean, TikTok was a, turned into a propaganda machine of showing this stuff. So, you know, they give as good as they get. We're going to take a short commercial break. We will pull out of the commercial break immediately. If the president comes into the Knesset, I think there, besides maybe meeting with some of the families, there's definitely, I believe, some wheeling and dealing going on in the back. As I said this, Kurt I think said it well, we're building the plane as we're flying the plane. President Trump has a house style. One of his house styles is deal momentum. You keep driving the deal and you keep driving to the, to the conclusion of the close. You know, certain things will fall off. They're not important. Other things are important. You'll get to focus on and get them done. That's just the way he is as a deal guy for unique style. It is a day, a historic day in, in Israel. Historic day in the Middle East. We're going to return in a moment as the President of the United States addresses.

[Jack Posobiec]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, welcome back. Joe Gilbert, you got, you've got some reporting to do here about President Trump is actually, it is official, he is meeting with a large group of families. Why don't you tell us about it? Yeah.

[Joel Gilbert]

On social media, there's a number of photos. Trump is sitting with Netanyahu with a large group of hostage families. It appears the hostage families are passing the microphone around and Trump is very gracious. He does a lot of listening, and it appears he's just listening. So I think that's the reason for the delay in the Knesset. He's trying to be respectful to these hostage families. It does appear in the photos there might even be one, one hostage that just got out. So this delay could last for a while because Trump is very gracious when it comes to meeting with people, especially those who have suffered. So this could go on for some time.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah. No, President Trump Very empathetic. Kurt Mills, I think, nailed it. It doesn't get played up enough, but knowing the guy, he's got a huge heart. Joe, don't you. Are we not seeing that in media? We're not seeing that live because. Are they concerned that some of the hostage families may say something to Netanyahu or may even say something to the president that would not be in keeping with this day as a celebratory. Because we know there is a lot of anger. Right. These individuals released today, the last of them, have been there for over two years. The treatment, we know, has been absolutely brutal. What is your thoughts of why this is not being shown? Because to me, this would actually be. To an American audience, this is, quite frankly, much bigger than the address to the Knesset. This is kind of what people have been waiting for and looking for. Is Trump the peacemaker?

[Joel Gilbert]

Sir, while I'm looking at these photos, there are no cameras. You know, Ivanka's there, Jared's there. Witkoff, everybody's there. But it's about 100 people crowded around, seated, and they've got microphones in the crowd. So it looks like almost like some kind of therapeutic event where hostages get to talk to the president and tell them what they've been through. And he's just seems like. Looks like a very good listener, I would assume. Some of the comments and things are very private. And they. They absolutely don't have any cameras in there. There are still cameras, but no television cameras. Maybe we'll get a report about it later. But that's the reason for the delay, because Trump was supposed to be speaking to the Knesset already.

[Steve Bannon]

Dave Brat, for an American audience, I mean, that's kind of what people have come for. Is Trump the peacemaker? Trump did something nobody else could do. Trump has changed the arc of history in the Middle East. Obviously, you know, we're of the belief the hostages are one thing, but there's a much. The geopolitical forces over there make this even more important. And what happens in Egypt today maybe is important, the hostages being released, but there's no. There's no television cameras there. It's all print media or traditional photography. Does that strike you as odd?

[Dave Brat]

Yeah, I don't know what technology they want going beyond the security and whatever, but, you know, President. President Trump, you know, what. What was just said is important in a few ways. You know, he's got a big heart. He wants to meet those people. And on the, you know, in addition to that, he is a genius of the human spirit. He wants to look in those eyes and, and see really what this means. You know, I think he, he's very highly intelligent, especially reading a room and reading people. There's no one like him. So when he's in there with the people, I think, you know, number one, he's, he, he loves it. You know, he's always with the, the waiters and the waitresses behind the scenes at restaurants and the, the folks who work the golf courses and whatever. And I think he's doing the same thing here and he's learning about people. And so I, I'll, it'll be fascinating see him come out of there with new eyes, I think, too. And, you know, all, all this is going to bowl him over. And then what you're saying about the cameras and the newsprint, I think everyone's going to be very overly cautious there because, you know, we simplify this thing in the mainstream media and, you know, you got the warmongers here, the peaceniks here in Israel, you got many subgroups that want different outcomes. And so it's not monolithic. It's not. The US Wants this and Israel wants this or whatever. There's subgroups all over. And it's a very, very delicate balance, as we all know today. But the huge forces are in play for peace here from Hamas is the one who, their own logic doesn't really want this piece. So that's the one piece, you know, they have to have an offer and I want to see what that ends up looking like.

[Steve Bannon]

Right.

[Dave Brat]

There's got to be some combat, compelling interest. They've been getting money out of this deal. It's part of their reason for existence. And so I'm waiting to hear what all is involved there. Israel, I think the people want a piece. The polling has been pretty clear on that all across the map in the US we want peace on the polling, but then the political leaders, and as I said, you know, all it takes is one of these little teeny terrorist cells to plant a false flag operation, say, look what they just did, and boom, we're back at it. And hopefully calmer heads, more rational heads. And Trump, I think is just sick of it, right? He wants to be done. I think that's the dominant motif of the day is Trump is just sick of it. And he put his foot down and said, we're having peace. And I don't care who you are, I don't care if you're Hamas. And that's probably what Hamas felt as well, right? Israel said, okay, yep. All right. And this day is due to President Donald Trump. He gets the, the highest peace prize from, from God above in Jesus, who said, blessed are the peacemakers.

[Steve Bannon]

Right?

[Dave Brat]

They, he's the peacemaker today and we all need to be with him in prayer and in support, writing letters in your papers and celebrating what Trump is trying to do around the world. He wanted, he wanted peace in Ukraine. That thing is so complex with Russia, China, linkages now and whatever. It's tougher than people thought. But he's working that one too, so he can bring all his energy home here and make this country even greater than what it is today.

[Steve Bannon]

Was it blessed are the peacemakers? They are the sons of God. I think they've changed the children.

[Dave Brat]

Yeah, they'll be called the sons of God.

[Steve Bannon]

Right? Kurt Mills, I want everybody in this audience to understand something. When you, when you take a red eye either from LA to New York and you got to work, or take it from New York to London, let's say just draining, changing time zones, sleeping on the plane, you get there every now and again, I would go right to a meeting or breakfast meeting, but mostly you want to go to the hotel, maybe get a couple hours of sleep, take a shower, get a late breakfast and then go hit it at noon or 1 o'. Clock. The President of the United States, after working, you know, every consecutive day, leaves yesterday, takes a long flight, holds a press gaggle, a 20 minute press gaggle. We were only able to show like five or six minutes of it. It gets off the plane immediately, gets in with Netanyahu, spends 45 minutes talking to Netanyahu on the way up. He's about to give a major address, but he spends, he spent over an hour now behind the scenes with him, listening to them just. And he's still got to go to Egypt and give an address there and talk about the overall peace deal. Every, all of this on the world stage. Just the energy you talked about, the empathy, just the energy sitting there and listening to the hundred hostage families or to the 100 people associated with the hostages would be so draining in and of itself. That'd be an entire day. You wouldn't have anything left over. Talk to me about. This is why this guy's so unique. This is why I'm so upset about the shoddy, obviously shoddy security for the President when he was down there at the basement of the Knesset or the first floor of the Knesset. Because he's all we got, right? You can say he's all we got. He stands between us and the abyss for all his Imperfections. He's what's between us in the abyss. Talk to me about not just the empathy. Would you correctly spot it? And that's why you spend an hour listening, as Joel Gilbert says, listening to the hostages families, but also the energy of the man.

[Matt Farace]

Sir?

[Kurt Mills]

Yeah, it's crazy. I saw the schedule, the itinerary for this trip over the weekend, and I did think it was extremely odd that he was leaving in late afternoon Eastern time and that he was going to arrive basically nearly at dawn in the Middle east and just go straight and do it. And you know better than me, but, you know, Air Force One is fairly comfortable, but it's not a hotel, it is an airplane ultimately. And for him to just go out from the tarmac to this, to another country, meet with people as diverse as heads of state to, you know, I mean, with no disrespect, the most decrepit humans on earth, the people that have been held in these conditions by Hamas is, is just extraordinary. And you do talk about the singular nature of this president. And I think it's conceded by many and it's, it's what was discussed. It's conceded by a lot of his critics as well. I was looking, you know, during the break, there's this piece out by this small UK outlet called the New World. It's a magazine and this is a sort of left wing magazine. And this guy says, a bowling autocrat, his terms has succeeded where years of calm diplomacy failed. Progressives must ask why? And the reality is I've seen a lot of people complaining that why didn't Biden force Netanyahu into this kind of deal? And when I say force, the US Gets a vote. The US Is a military supporter of Israel. The US Runs endless cover for Israel diplomatically, most famously at the UN but also throughout Europe and the broader world. And Biden just let this go on and on and on. And Trump, you know, maybe it could have happened sooner, maybe we could have avoided Hawk summer in the Iran shenanigans. But we have seen the basic approach of this administration from not just day one, day minus four or five, when Wyckoff did this deal before Trump was even inaugurated, when Trump opened negotiations with the Iranians, when Trump negotiated with Hamas, when Trump went to the Middle east and denounced neoconservatism. And now at the 11th hour, as I said yesterday, when it looked like it was totally dark, when there was no chance for this, we have a miracle, or what appears to be a miracle deal to end this war. And it's certainly Certainly a miracle for the 20 hostages returned to their families and you know, the terrible ordeal that those folks have been through. Needless to say.

[Steve Bannon]

Joel, we're coming down to like the last 10 minutes. And there's Marco right there, by the way. The uniformed services are also some of the people that will implement this. You saw the particularly the Navy admiral who's in charge of centcom. There's Marco, there's certainly come in now. So the president will be, I'm sure, momentarily. Joel, give me a minute or two summary of your thinking as we get ready for the president to take the stage, the podium in the Knesset.

[Joel Gilbert]

I'm thinking this is the culmination of some great efforts by our president to get this deal done. The Israeli people wanted the hostages out. He got the hostages out. I see nothing but dangers ahead because I think there are forces that are seeking to make sure Israel emerges from this episode with a political defeat. I believe all the Gulf states, Turkey, Egypt, Macron, prime minister of Canada and England, they're all going to Shamal Sheikh to try to assure they stack the deck to make sure Israel is politically defeated and set the stage for the creation of a Palestinian state in Gaza to be followed by demands for Israel to withdraw from the west bank and Jerusalem and set up an Israeli election choice next year where the Israeli electorate has to decide between peace with all these countries and doesn't quite understand that their definition of peace is very different from Israel's definition of peace. And I see nothing but danger ahead and how this thing is going to play out politically for Israel.

[Steve Bannon]

I agree with you 1000%. And as I say, I believe that this was brought on by the Israel first crowd, Tel Aviv Levin in this crowd here in the United States that led Netanyahu to believe that he had ultimate power, to just do what he was going to do. And he finally hit President Trump's tripwire, came close to hitting the tripwire in Persia. He definitely hit the tripwire tripwire when he tried to kill the second negotiating team with Hamas in Qatar. It was the attack on Qatar and not giving President Trump a heads up. Knowing President Trump, you got to go pretty far in the woods to hit his tripwire. That tripwire was hit, right? Was hit then and everything's changed. I agree with you about this is a two state solution. And I think it's going to start dawning on people in Israel pretty quickly that it is. Joel Gilbert, your social media, where do people get your films, particularly your films on Israel? Where did they get them?

[Joel Gilbert]

Yeah, if you go to my farewell israel.com which I produced this film when Israel agreed to give away Gaza atomic jihad about Iran, highway61ent.com is my film website and on Twitter, I'm Joel S. Gilbert. Joel S. Gilbert. And you can link up to all my films there on Barack Obama, politics, BOB Dylan, Paul McCartney and so many, so many great new films, including Roseanne Barr. That's my new movie just coming out. Roseanne is America.com and it's on all the live streaming networks right now. Roseanne is America.com.

[Steve Bannon]

Amazing film, amazing person. She's quite unique. We were very honored to have you guys in the war room. There's Ivanka right there. Joel, thank you so much. Appreciate you being here with us for the duration and for yesterday. Joel Gilbert knows the region, knows the players. By the way, we had right there, Ratcliffe, you got Hegseth, you got little Marco, you've got the Ambassador Huckabee, who I think ought to be recalled immediately in disgrace. His performance has been nothing short of disgraceful. Also, the director of the CIA, I believe the director of the CIA needs to come to the House and to the Senate, explain to the American people why he told the president that, yes, it was two weeks away from a bomb when we now know from the times of Israel that. Times of Israel that it was two years. Like we said here in the worm. Okay, the president, I think, is coming. We're going to cut right to. Steve Gruber is going to pick up from here. Kurt Mills, we don't have it. Okay, somebody's getting a plot. I think they're probably thinking, Kurt Mills, give me a two minute wrap up while they start to applaud the Mossad control director of the CIA. Ratcliffe.

[Kurt Mills]

Yeah, I think I also saw Miriam Adelson in the crowd as well. So again, a lot of different agendas here, not all per se, rooting for President Trump's peace or at least to be done with war in this region for the remainder of his term. Still, an extraordinary show of hands, an extraordinary column of American support for this deal. Rubio, Hegseth, Huckabee, Ratcliffe, Stephen Miller, I saw, you know, this is quite a showing here and it speaks to, you know, I think, you know, more than almost anyone, if the president is hauling all those people over here, he wants this to be done. This is somebody who knows the power of theatrics and ceremony more than most. And it would be a humiliation if, if our alleged allies immediately broke this deal. So I think he is speaking to the world today. He's speaking to the Arab world, but he's also speaking to the leadership of Israel in Israel, making clear this is his line in the sand and careful in crossing it.

[Steve Bannon]

Kurt Mills, where do people go on your social media? You'll have a lot to say today. I want everybody to go to your Twitter account as you keep people up to speed with what's going on.

[Joel Gilbert]

Sure.

[Kurt Mills]

The Twitter account, the X account is at Curt Mills at Curt Milx. M I L L S on X. At Curt M I L O S on X. And the magazine is www.the americanconservative.com magazine, founded in 2002 here in D.C. by conservatives and friends against the Iraq war. Hoping to avoid the mistakes like that again in the future. Thank you.

[Steve Bannon]

Do you, do you agree with me on my assessment of Ratcliffe? Am I too harsh on the CIA director?

[Kurt Mills]

I haven't seen the administration or Radcliffe or CIA deny the fairly well substantiated allegations that he was shuffling Mossad intelligence at the absolute height of the crisis in June with Iran. Look, the President is entitled to all information. The President can listen to the Israelis. But accepting Israeli claims about the region, on the face of it, is insane. Especially because the number of decisions we ended up making during the Iran crisis based on that intelligence. And the reality is we don't know that much. And that's the legacy. I mentioned, the Iraq War. That was the legacy of the Iraq war. Check out Steve Kahl's book the Achilles Trap that is all about what the CIA knew going into the Iraq war. Turns out not very much. Saddam Hussein was basically retired and writing a novel. His weapons programs have been basically dismantled. He was not the same guy as he was in Gulf War One and the Iran Iraq War. And I just, I caution we don't know that much about Iran, unfortunately. It's a closed and bureaucratic and gerontocratic Islamic society. But the reality is they are not saber rattling for a war. Our alleged allies are and we should be very wary.

[Steve Bannon]

Brother. Thank you so much. Ben Harnwell, can you give us some pearls of wisdom before we call on you in the 10 o' clock hour, sir? Yeah.

[Ben Harnwell]

Well, look, Steve, people with longer memories will remember how Bibi stabbed President Trump, who'd shown him nothing but loyalty and support in his first administration. Stabbed. Stabbed President Trump in the back over the stolen election in his rush to embrace Joe Biden and walked all over what he presumed was be President Trump's political corpse. Bibi has had a good run. I'm Amazed he got this far. And now finally, what I consider to be justice is being done and he. Bibi's no longer calling the shots over a US Administration. Not remotely. That this is very, it's a very good, necessary, long overdue realignment. We'll see how far this goes in the future. But one thing I'll close with this, Steve. One thing to note here with President Trump's graciousness to the hostages and the families, that whoever did the scheduling of this, I guess, will have had some appreciation of the time necessary in order to do that properly. The consequence of that is that President Trump has made the Knesset wait there for what, an hour and a half in its seat waiting for him like the vassals they are. And that is also, I think, entirely appropriate.

[Steve Bannon]

If only Miriam Adelson was in that crowd for an hour. Be even better. Ben Harnwell, your social media. Where do folks go?

[Ben Harnwell]

Thanks, Steve. Get up. My social media platform of choice at Harnwell, which is my surname. Thanks, Steve. God bless. 10:00am thank you.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you, sir. Dave Brat, thank you for coming in for the 5 o' clock hour. You've been absolutely brilliant. Give us some closing thoughts before we toss to Steve Bruber who's going to take us home.

[Dave Brat]

Well, Harnwell is pretty perceptive there and it was interesting. When you scan the room, it almost looked like the court of Henry V or whatever the, the faces on the inner court there, Hegseth, Huckabee, Rubio, you know, the Israelis, as you scan the room, are happy. Not as much happiness from our leader, Stephen Miller. No, he's, his face is stiff and he doesn't look happy.

[Steve Bannon]

Dave, here, here comes.

[Dave Brat]

Yeah, I see it.

[Steve Bannon]

Here comes the President, United States. Let's, let's cut right, let's cut live to the Knesset. Steve Gruber is going to take you here. We'll be back in the worm at 10 o'. Clock. Sam it there. Please sit down. Knesset members, Today is Monday 13th of October 2025, and I'm intending to open the special session of the Knesset in honor of the President of the United States, Mr. Donald J. Trump. Dear Knesset members, I would like to remind you that this is a special session and therefore there will be no disturbances. And whoever will disturb the session will be expelled from the session and there will be no warning. And it is allowed to applaud in this session the Honorable Mr. Ishaq Herzog and his wife Michal, the honorary Mr. The Prime Minister, Sister Benjamin Netanyahu and his spouse Sarah, the head of the opposition, Mr. Lapid and his wife, Lihi ministers and Knesset members.

[Donald J. Trump]

Special recognition.