Barely Famous: "Bad Examples – Barely Filtered"

Podcast: Barely Famous (PodcastOne)
Host: Kail Lowry
Guests: Tracy DeMarco & Jessica ("Jess Hottie"), co-hosts of the Bad Examples podcast
Date: September 12, 2025

Episode Overview

In this candid, unfiltered episode, host Kail Lowry welcomes Tracy DeMarco and Jessica ("Jess Hottie"), best known from the reality show Jerseylicious and now co-hosts of the Bad Examples podcast. The trio dive into their shared reality TV roots, the "fakeness" of early reality programming, navigating public judgment and personal relationships, sex and body stories, motherhood, dating after divorce, and the behind-the-scenes truths of life as women in the public eye. No topic is off limits—expect intimate admissions, raunchy humor, and a refreshingly honest take on everything from butt plugs to heartbreak.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Meeting on Reality TV & Early Career Days

[02:10–06:40]

• Tracy and Jessica recount meeting for the first time on Jerseylicious; Jessica was originally an extra, but Tracy advocated for her to be brought back (“I preached her to all the producers… she’s so good.” – Tracy, [02:44]).
• Reflections on their “green” beginnings in reality TV, and how over-produced the scenes actually were:

  “We did it like seven times… the whole show was so fake. Everything was staged.” – Tracy, [03:27]

• The nature of their friendship—rooted in working together, filming, and sharing personal details, but not always socializing outside of their projects.

2. Launching the Bad Examples Podcast

[05:02–05:53]

• Started before podcasts were widely popular, based on Jessica’s instinct that it would become big.
• Their dynamic is compared to "Pinky and the Brain," with Jess steering the content and Tracy reacting in the moment for authenticity.
• Approach: Get genuine reactions over scripted content—a trick learned from reality TV.

3. Impact of Reality TV on Personal Lives

[05:57–06:47]

• Tracy talks about the intrusive impact of fame, even on her family who avoided the spotlight.
• Early internet popularity from MySpace segued into TV fame, podcasting, and social media presence.

  “I was kind of popular on MySpace…” – Tracy, [06:23]

4. Pizza Influencing, Dave Portnoy Encounter, and Origin of "Two Girls, One Slice"

[06:48–11:14]

• Jessica recounts a mortifying meet-cute with Barstool’s Dave Portnoy while filming their pizza review series.

  “I behaved as my mother said… you would have thought Paul McCartney walked in, the way you were behaving. I was so embarrassing.” – Jessica, [07:09]

• Discussion on getting paid for food reviews and why pizza became their niche (“After Covid, I felt like pizzerias needed the boost.” – Tracy, [09:03]).
• Naming origin story: "Two Girls, One Slice," playfully referencing viral internet lingo.

  “I feel like that’s a porn. Two girls one… something. Do not look it up.” – Tracy, [09:30]

5. Candid Sex, Body, & Motherhood Talk

[16:05–20:12]

• Kail and the guests discuss openness on their podcasts about taboo topics—everything from shitting pants to anal sex—emphasizing destigmatizing these conversations for women.

• Hilarious and blunt takes on anal (including hesitations, mishaps, and “pick me” culture):

  “My ex was in my butt… I was like, ‘I don’t know if I like this.’ And he’s like, ‘I never wanted to do this.’” – Kail, [16:53]

• Tracy’s “butt plug tip”: Add glitz to doggy style for aesthetics (“…the smallest one you can get. Butt plug. Diamond.” – Tracy, [19:07])

6. Navigating Divorce, Dating, and Blended Families

[23:00–38:18]

• Tracy’s vulnerable retelling of her recent breakup—her partner’s abrupt exit after promises, and the unique difficulties of dating as a mom.

  “I promised my dogs a backyard…” – the ex, relayed by Jessica, [29:04] “You made promises to four people who believed everything you said. Two dogs are not going to need therapy after this…” – Tracy, [29:15]

• The struggle of trust post-betrayal, how breakups impact kids, and the fear of introducing partners to children.

  “I want love so bad. Like, I want to be in love tomorrow. I want the fairy tale.” – Tracy, [35:52]

• Issues of personal boundaries, public opinion, and judgment—especially around single motherhood and “collecting” baby daddies.

7. Trolls, “Villain” Stereotypes & Public Backlash

[51:23–55:43]

• Tracy's experience being cast as the “villain” and why she's learned to embrace the persona instead of seeking redemption.

  “I could save a child from a burning building and… ‘she could have done it faster’…” – Tracy, [52:58]

• The toxicity of hate-bonding in online communities:

  “Bonding over hating someone where you would have otherwise never been friends is the weirdest fudging energy.” – Tracy, [55:33]

8. Lawsuits, Lisa Frank, and Business Burnout

[42:03–47:14]

• Jessica opens up (as much as she can, due to ongoing litigation) about being part of the Glitter and Greed docuseries, her legal struggles, and being let down by business idols (Lisa Frank).

  “Never meet your idols—it’s a thing, they’ll disappoint you.” – Jessica, [43:17]

• The pain of losing her cosmetics line (Glamour Dolls) and re-finding purpose after professional ruin, compounded by fertility struggles.

9. Motherhood, Mental Load, and Gender Double Standards

[48:07–51:58]

• The taxing emotional labor expected of mothers; double standards in praise and criticism compared to dads.

  “When dads pick up a baby, they're… what an active dad! That's your sperm in your arms!” – Tracy, [49:19]

• Venting the daily challenges mothers and working women face; humor as coping mechanism.

10. Never Have I Ever: Raunchy Lightning Round

[55:51–64:36]

• Hilariously honest “Never Have I Ever,” covering anal mishaps, butt accidents, fake orgasms, nudes gone wrong, and wild hookup stories.
• Tips for faking “wetness” over text (“just spit on your fingers and go like this…” – Tracy, [59:03])
• Candid discussions on long-term relationships, what they wish for in future partners, and the mystery of men who love social media.

11. Recurring Themes: Raw Sisterhood & Realness

• Throughout, the women re-affirm their commitment to radical honesty and connecting with listeners as real people (“Our listeners are our best friends… we connect with them. If you DM us, it's us, not an assistant.” – Jessica, [65:36])
• Owning their flaws and failures as credentials for good advice:

  “Why would you take advice from someone who’s never lived [through] that experience?...We just suck at taking it!” – Tracy & Jessica, [66:02]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I behaved as my mother said… you would have thought Paul McCartney walked in, the way you were behaving. I was so embarrassing.” – Jessica on meeting Dave Portnoy [07:09]

• “Do not look up Two Girls One… anything!” – Tracy on the origins of their pizza review name [09:30]

• “I could save a child from a burning building and… ‘she could have done it faster’…” – Tracy on being the perennial villain [52:58]

• “Pick me energy… Did absolutely nothing for me.” – Kail on women faking enjoyment of anal for male validation [17:46]

• “My ex was in my butt… I was like, ‘I don’t know if I like this.’ And he’s like, ‘I never wanted to do this.’” – Kail [16:53]

• “All you have to do is spit in your fingers and go like this. And it looks like you’re wet and you’re not.” – Tracy’s sexting tip [59:04]

• “Our listeners are our best friends… If you DM us, it's us, not an assistant.” – Jessica [65:36]

Highlight Timestamps

• [02:10] – The real story of how Tracy & Jessica met on Jerseylicious
• [03:27] – “The show was so fake. Everything was staged.”
• [07:09] – Jessica’s embarrassing run-in with Dave Portnoy
• [09:03] – Why they started pizza reviews after Covid
• [16:21] – Kail’s anal sex story (“He was in my butt and I was like, I don't know if I like this.”)
• [19:07] – Tracy’s “diamond butt plug” advice for doggy style
• [29:04] – “I promised my dogs a backyard.” The wildest breakup line
• [36:48] – Tracy: “That’s your love language.”
• [49:19] – “That’s your sperm in your arms.”
• [55:33] – On troll bonding: “Bonding over hating someone… is the weirdest fudging energy.”
• [59:04] – Faking “wetness” over sexting (“Just spit on your fingers and go like this…”)
• [65:36] – Listeners are like friends; DMs are truly answered by Tracy and Jessica

Conclusion

In "Bad Examples – Barely Filtered," no subject is taboo. Listeners are treated to the real talk and behind-the-scenes confessions that made Bad Examples a cult favorite: the pitfalls of fame, the grind of motherhood, heartbreak and resilience, and the liberation that comes with being "the villain." The chemistry between Kail, Tracy, and Jessica is marked by unfiltered humor, empathy, and raunchy banter—creating a space where women can laugh, commiserate, and feel unapologetically themselves.

Where to find Tracy & Jessica:

• Bad Examples Podcast: @badexamplespodcast (Instagram)/ Patreon
• Two Girls, One Slice: @twogirlsoneslice (Instagram)
• Tracy: @TracyDeMarco_ (Instagram)
• Jessica: @JessHottie (Instagram)

End on this note:
"If you DM us, it's us, not an assistant… our listeners are our best friends." – Jessica, [65:36]