Summer Things with Elliott

Summary

Barely Famous – “Summer Things with Elliott”

Release Date: August 7, 2026
Host: Kail Lowry
Guest: Elliott (her son)

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Episode Overview

In this candid and lively episode, Kail Lowry welcomes her son Elliott for an unscripted conversation covering summer adventures, the realities of internet fame, personal boundaries, family dynamics, and Elliot’s creative pursuits in film and theater. They tackle pressing topics like online hate, social media boundaries, college decisions, their evolving sibling relationships, and Kail’s recent health diagnosis, all while maintaining the trademark humor and authenticity fans love. The episode provides a behind-the-scenes look at the Lowry-Maher household’s real conversations, along with the challenges and growth they experience both offline and in the public eye.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Public Recognition & Boundaries

• Kail and Elliott recount a recent social media incident: a woman covertly took a photo of Elliott at a barber shop after recognizing him (03:08).
  • Elliott shares, “I can tell so quickly. The moment that she looked at me, like we made eye contact, I was like, oh, okay, great.” (03:43)
  • Kail reacts to the crossing of boundaries and inappropriate comments about Elliott’s sexuality on social media, reading back her pointed and protective response to a hateful message (05:14).
    • Notable Quote: “An adult woman coming onto a child’s profile … is actually so disturbing to me and it's clear that the Lord didn’t do his job with you.” (05:14)
  • Elliott explains his approach to hate: “Honestly, like, these people, you don’t know them. So, like, why does it have to affect you? … I’m glad that I see it as humor rather than, you know, letting it affect me.” (07:10)

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2. Online Hate & Resilience

• Kail and Elliott discuss the frequency and impact of hate comments:
  • “I don’t think I have a lot of them.” – Elliott (07:43)
  • Kail points out the psychological effects of repeated negativity, while Elliott shares about one particularly hateful TikTok comment section that focused on his “flamboyant” mannerisms (08:14).
  • Memorable Moment: “Are we crazy or are they?” – Kail, highlighting the absurdity of online hate (09:36)

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3. Travel Stories & Food Mishaps

• Tales from their trip to New York:
  • Disappointment over not finding Cuban food, ending up at a Japanese restaurant, and Kail’s ramen mishap: “I was trying to do the chopsticks and I splattered it all over my white T shirt. So we had to get a tide pen…” (10:34)

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4. College Decisions and City Life

• Elliott’s evolving feelings about living in New York and attending NYU:
  • “Absolutely not,” on living in NYC (11:06)
  • Attracted instead to RIT (Rochester Institute of Technology) and UNC Greensboro, preferring a tight-knit community in a big city (18:21)
  • Kail expresses her concerns about schools’ LGBTQ climate: “I don’t know if there’s a big gay community there, so I just don’t know. I worry about that piece of it.” (18:41)

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5. Family Dynamics & Sibling Relationships

• Reflections on sending Lincoln (Elliott’s brother) off for the summer and attending his school ceremony:
  • Lincoln won the “integrity” award, to which Elliott quips, “If Lincoln gets this, I just don’t agree.” (20:06)
  • Navigating sibling dynamics and bonding: “I’m numb to it at this point. I am going to call him, obviously, all the time, check in on him, text him, whatever.” – Elliott on being apart for the summer (21:20)
  • Kail’s hopes for school-year bonding when Elliott drives Lincoln to school (22:47)
  • The family’s “50/50” custody life, and Kail’s gratitude for the time they do have together (24:26)

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6. Geography Gaffes and Laughter

• Playful banter about Canada, Texas, and beaches, showcasing both the fun and humility in not always knowing the answer:
  • “I was on the dean’s list in college. Just so you guys know, like, I literally have a certificate.” – Kail (16:06)
  • “I don’t think anyone goes to Texas for beaches, though.” – Elliot (16:36)
  • “Same way about Canada.” – Kail (16:42)

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7. Creative Passions: Filmmaking, Theater, and ASL

• Elliott’s journey in film and performing arts:
  • Recently produced and directed a short film; now scripting and set to film another, including his brother Lux in the cast:
    • Quote: “It was great. We just made it up on the spot, made up as we went. So, you know, I think it went really well for how it was.” (32:56)
  • Kail’s pride: “It was so good. I was so impressed.” (32:53)
  • Conversation about the challenges of acting and confidence, especially for younger siblings (35:25)
  • The importance of rejection and learning from theater auditions:
    • “That puts one experience on my belt. Two, I can grow and learn the theater etiquette, I guess… It helps realize that it’s okay to get a no and it’s okay to, you know, be put somewhere that you weren’t expecting.” – Elliott (42:29)
    • Kail draws parallels to sports and performance, emphasizing growth through trying new environments (45:39)
• Kail and Elliott talk merging American Sign Language (ASL) and theater/film, representation for deaf and neurodiverse communities, and sensitivity in storytelling, referencing shows like Switched at Birth and Ginny & Georgia (46:33, 49:09).
  • Quote: “If I end up continuing to be a part of film… I would love to write a story with a deaf character or… because you know, we don’t have enough of that.” – Elliott (50:19)

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8. Health Update: Celiac Disease

• Kail candidly shares her recent diagnosis:
  • “While you were sleeping this morning, I was diagnosed with celiac disease, so gotta figure that out.” (28:24)
  • Struggles with upcoming touring and feeding a large family on a gluten-free diet (28:43)
  • Elliot jokes, “I would rather not know. And keep eating gluten.” (29:26)
  • Discussion about needing further testing, risks if untreated, and crowdsourcing advice from listeners living with celiac (30:22, 32:02)

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9. Plans for the Summer & Next Steps

• Elliott’s summer plans: London trip, theater summer camp audition, volunteering, and more short films (53:12, 53:24, 54:07).
  • “I’m hoping to be doing a theater summer camp this year… Even if it’s just meeting new people would be great.” (53:24)
• Kail recaps their work trip to New York, meeting with family, and looking forward to the rest of summer (27:25–28:24).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Social Media Boundaries:
  “The moment that she looked at me, like we made eye contact, I was like, oh, okay, great.” — Elliott (03:43)
• On Responding to Hate:
  “You didn’t wake up and decide to be straight. So why would one just decide to be gay? Especially when there are people like you to ridicule their lives at every turn.” — Kail, reading her IG comment (05:14)
• On Emerging Resilience:
  “I’m glad that I see it as humor rather than, you know, letting it affect me.” — Elliott (07:10)
• On Creative Growth:
  “That’s why I want to start now so that when I’m ready, I have a resume. I have experience.” — Elliott on theater (43:20)
• On Intersectionality in Art:
  “I would love to write a story with a deaf character… because you know, we don’t have enough of that.” — Elliott (50:19)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Time (MM:SS) | |------------------------------------------|-------------------| | Social Media Boundaries & Hate Comments | 02:28–07:34 | | Food Mishaps/Trip to NY | 09:40–11:06 | | College Decisions & City Living | 11:06–18:50 | | Sibling Awards & Summer Separation | 19:20–24:44 | | Geography Gaffes | 14:02–16:44 | | Filmmaking, Theater, and ASL | 32:19–52:15 | | Celiac Disease Diagnosis | 28:24–32:14 | | Representation in Arts | 46:18–52:06 | | Summer Plans & Theater Camp | 53:09–54:17 |

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Tone and Takeaways

The episode combines open-hearted honesty with humor and self-deprecation, creating a welcoming, safe space for both real talk and relatable family dynamics. Kail and Elliott balance serious discussions—on identity, boundaries, mental health, and representation—with playful banter and bold vulnerability. Listeners walk away with a sense of the complexities and rewards of growing up—and parenting—in the spotlight, along with practical wisdom for navigating both online and offline relationships, pursuing creative dreams, and supporting each other through life’s uncertainties.

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For more:
Follow Elliott: IG @isaacelliot
Tour dates and news: killowry.com or Patreon

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Transcript

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[Kaitlyn Maher]

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Things are going to get weird.

It's your fave villain, Kale, and you're

listening to Barely Famous.

First of all, Elliot, thanks for doing this episode of Barely Famous podcast with me. I was gonna do a solo kind of chaotic moment, but now I get to be chaotic with you. Yeah, when I was coming to New York, I. Everything was up in the air. I had no idea what the I was going to be doing. And last minute I said, elliot, why don't you come with me? And he's like, okay, so it's take your kid to work days. Cuz I'm. We came in last night, we have work today, work tomorrow, and he's just going to kind of come along for the ride.

So I.

You posted a video on Instagram last night. Can we talk about it?

[Elliot Maher]

Okay.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Because I wrote a novel to somebody. I commented back and it was like a novel, like I'm pissed.

[Elliot Maher]

Oh, cuz they said that.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Can I read it?

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah, go ahead.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Okay, so you're. You could summarize the video if you want.

[Elliot Maher]

Okay. So the video was basically about when people come up to me in public or come up to you or come up to us. And I don't know, I just kind of post it because the thing came to my mind when I was at the barber shop a few weeks ago.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Yeah, weeks, like your most recent haircut?

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah, the most recent one.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

When?

That was on Monday, I think.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah, it was my dad that took me. So when my dad took me to this haircut appointment, he stay in the car, whatever, I'm in the chair and I realized that this girl, you know, or this lady walked in with her kid, whatever, her kid was getting a haircut and I realized she recognize me. Like she kept staring and I could just tell like she didn't have to say anything. And then I like turned to an angle where I could still see her through the mirror, but she took a picture of me. So I was like, of you?

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Instead of just asking you for a picture at that point, I mean you would have said no, but like, yeah, okay.

[Elliot Maher]

And so I was just like, okay, I'm gonna make a video about this because like, I just think it's so interesting. I don't know, like I can tell so quickly. And with her I immediately knew like she, the moment that she looked at me, like we made eye contact, I was like, oh, okay, great.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Do you think that because you grew up in the public eye and you know that you have that sort of self awareness in public because of us being on reality tv that you would or wouldn't approach one of your like favorite creators or celebrities or any of that? Would you approach them or do you feel like you wouldn't?

[Podcast Host - Ad Voice]

It's hard.

[Elliot Maher]

I probably wouldn't. Just so that I can't be called a hypocrite because like I have these boundaries and if I don't, it's. It's two way street. So like if I go up to somebody else and treat them the way I wouldn't want to be treated, like that's like, you know, I mean, like. Yeah, I don't know.

[Podcast Host - Ad Voice]

I.

[Elliot Maher]

And that's also something to consider when somebody comes up to me because I understand where they're coming from. Because if I saw Billie Eilish on the street, oh my God, I would

[Kaitlyn Maher]

freak out, Freak out.

[Elliot Maher]

I would. And. But I would have to like, like even now I'm thinking about like I wouldn't be. I couldn't go up to them. So for the, for the rest of my life, I'm just going to hope that I don't come across somebody that I love.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

So this woman he's talking about being in public eye and getting recognized, he's not even saying anything like about being gay or homophobic or anything like that. And this woman comments and says, please go to church and stop being a deviant. You have a demon in you. Just so you know, I lost it. I've never in my entire life put this much into a comment back to a stranger on the Internet. But it just did something that, it just pissed me off. And I said, you, you didn't wake up and decide to be straight. So why would one just decide to be gay? Especially when there are people like you to ridicule their lives at every turn. It's not very holy of you. I urge you to do some self reflecting and ask yourself why who somebody else loves would bother you. What impact does it have on you, your home, your income and your personal life? Further, an adult woman coming onto a child's profile to say, this is actually so disturbing to me and it's clear that the Lord didn't do his job with you. I encourage you to do some research on the Bible and misinterpretations, but that would require some brain cells. I think everyone here can see that Elliot is a better than you are simply based on your comment. I, it is so weird to me just going on that full kind of surrounding the conversation of like coming up to people or, you know, whatever. I think it's one thing to be like, oh, like your, your Internet aunties, you know, love you or like they wave from afar, which they've done and said, you know, I follow all your content. We're so proud of you and I love that.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

But I, I do think that it is very weird for an adult to comment on a child's personal, like on a child's content, whether they're a public figure or not to say anything about their sexuality like that to me is giving predatory. It's giving. It's giving.

Weird.

It's giving. Why are you invested in what a child does?

[Elliot Maher]

I personally laughed at the comment and reposted it to my story.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

I saw, but I saw and I'm so thankful that you have the sense of humor that you do because I would have not handled it that gracefully.

[Elliot Maher]

I think when I first started social media, I would have been mad. I would have been a little Upset. But honestly, like, these people, you don't know them. So, like, why does it have to affect you? You know, Like, I am glad that I see it as humor rather than, you know, letting it affect me.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Would you say that you have more you. The hate comments are fewer and far between, or do you think you have a lot of them?

[Elliot Maher]

I don't think I have a lot of them.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

I don't think so either.

[Elliot Maher]

I don't think so because I was

[Kaitlyn Maher]

just saying to Caitlin that I or somebody, when you read the stuff over and over and over again, it becomes almost subconscious. So, like, you can say until you're blue in the face that it doesn't bother you. But you read so much hate that you're like, okay, that is really in

the back of your mind.

But I feel like for you, I mean, I do monitor your socials and I don't think that you get a whole lot of hate.

[Elliot Maher]

Oh, no.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

So I'm thankful for that because, yeah, one comment could stick with you, but if you're not regularly reading it all the time, I definitely think it has less of an impact. For sure. Yeah.

[Elliot Maher]

There was a specific tick tock video and it was just all hate my video or yours? On my video. Like when I started the new account after the other one got banned. Yeah, there was so much hate on it. And I was just like, okay, like,

[Kaitlyn Maher]

well, do you know, do you remember what the topic was?

[Elliot Maher]

It was. So the comments were definitely about me being flamboyant and gay.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

I don't feel like you're super flamboyant.

[Elliot Maher]

I don't think so either.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Like, I feel like that's a stretch.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah, but it was definitely, like, commenting on my, like, mannerisms, my gestures and like, how I talk and things like that. And the video was not related at all. It was like. I think it was one. It was the one where I was talking about how you, like, got a bunch of the boo boos. It was one of those videos. Like, it was something like that. I was like, why are you guys. Like, I was just confused. Like, I'm trying to understand, like the

[Kaitlyn Maher]

hype around the boo boos.

[Elliot Maher]

No, I'm not understand. I'm trying to understand why everyone's, like, hating. And it's not even about what I'm talking about, but I'm confused.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

More people were hating on you that than that one comment about you being flamboyant.

[Elliot Maher]

No, I'm saying the whole comment section was like that.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Why? That doesn't even. I don't understand.

[Elliot Maher]

I Don't know. I don't know.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Are we crazy or are they.

[Elliot Maher]

I think they are for sure.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Okay.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Speaking of crazy, our trip to New York was great. Our drive in was amazing. But we went to dinner. As soon as we got to the hotel, we left and we thought we were getting Cuban food. And we get to the restaurant and it's like Cuban Chinese, which I don't think I've ever. No, we went. We ended up going to Japanese.

[Elliot Maher]

Oh, oh.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

The restaurant that we. We were so hyped for Cuban food. And then it was Cuban, Japanese, you

[Elliot Maher]

more than me, but yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Cuz you had never had it, but

I was excited for you to try.

I love Cuban food. And I was. I never heard. So I was trying to figure out for anyone listening, is it like a combination?

Like, are we.

Is it like a collab that we're doing with Cuban and Chinese food or is it like two separate menus? We didn't end up going in because I was like, I just. My. The way my stomach is set up, it probably wouldn't have handled it well. And so then we ended up going to this cute little Japanese restaurant. And the lady was so sweet and cute.

[Elliot Maher]

I loved her.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

She was.

[Elliot Maher]

I loved her so much.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

She was giving. Giving us tips on how to eat ramen. I've never had ramen like that, and it was so cool. But I was trying to do the chopsticks and I splattered it all over my white T shirt.

[Elliot Maher]

So we had to get a tide pod. Tide pen or a tide pen.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

And then it still didn't come out.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

So I like saw it this morning and I was like, okay, rest in peace to my white tea.

[Elliot Maher]

I mean, just get another one.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Now that you've kind of spent a few different times in New York semi recently, do you still want to live here?

[Elliot Maher]

Absolutely not.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Do you still want to go to nyu?

[Elliot Maher]

I don't know.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

You don't know? I know that was. He's not dead set on nyu, but it was in. It was in your top five. It used to be your number one.

[Elliot Maher]

It used to be Rochester was more.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

What one is that one called?

[Elliot Maher]

Rit.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Rit. So is that one still on your list?

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Yeah.

[Elliot Maher]

But I don't. I don't know. I don't. I don't like the city. I don't like it here.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

I think Rochester is like different vibes, though.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Elliot Maher]

I think it's more upstate. Or is it like not in the city area?

[Kaitlyn Maher]

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[Kaitlyn Maher]

just want you to know that geography has come up a couple times today.

[Elliot Maher]

I know.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

And I've been very wrong.

[Elliot Maher]

Mm. And last night.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

What do you mean?

[Elliot Maher]

Last night when we were talking about like Egypt. And we're talking about South America and stuff.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

No, I thought. I thought. I felt like we got all of those correct.

[Elliot Maher]

I.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Did we Egypt or did you. Is on the continent of Africa. Yeah, it's an African country.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

And then. No, I think we were pretty spot on.

[Elliot Maher]

Oh, we were.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

But okay. Did you know that there's an ocean in Canada?

[Elliot Maher]

An ocean in Canada?

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Like, Canada is like, you can go to the beach in Canada.

[Elliot Maher]

That makes sense. Yeah. Wait, but it's really cold there, though.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

I just never thought that. I didn't know Canada has beaches. Like, I've never once in my entire life heard someone say they were going to Canada to go to the beach.

[Elliot Maher]

Because you don't do that.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

My point. So why would I know that there was beaches in Canada? But, like, now that I think about it.

Right.

And that's my point is, like, now that we've said it out loud and I'm thinking about it on a map, like, duh. But I wasn't. Like, when I think of Canada, I have never been like, let's go visit the beach again.

Right.

[Elliot Maher]

I see what you mean. But, like, there's gonna be a beach on the edge of anywhere. But nobody goes to Canada for the beaches because it's so cold.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Do people go besides Galveston?

Does anyone go to the beach in Texas besides Galveston? Because I do know about that from my sister. I would like.

[Elliot Maher]

I think Texas, or wait.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Does not have any beaches because it's connected to Mexico.

[Elliot Maher]

Hold on, Mom, I. I know you're joking.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Hold on. Texas.

[Elliot Maher]

I don't. I don't necessarily think.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Because I thought it's, like, the edge of the United States.

[Elliot Maher]

Hold on. Yeah, but I don't think that people go to Texas for beaches because it's not anywhere near, like, central cities.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Nope, there is.

[Elliot Maher]

Or areas.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

There are even beaches in Houston, so I'm not that dumb.

[Elliot Maher]

Where's Houston?

[Kaitlyn Maher]

I guess the bottom. I'll let you know on when I. Houston's. Hold on. How do I look up?

[Elliot Maher]

And then.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

I'm not this stupid. I was on the dean's list in college. Just so you guys know, like, I literally have a certificate. Oh, yeah.

[Elliot Maher]

You were also smoking weed, so not in college. Oh, in high school.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

So Galveston is right outside of Houston

and at Corpus Christi. So there's actually a lot of beach in Texas, So I actually wasn't far off. Oh, okay. I mean, these beaches look kind of nice. So, anyway, moving on.

[Elliot Maher]

I don't think anyone goes to Texas for beaches, though.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

No.

[Elliot Maher]

I would guess that I've never heard of that.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Same way about Canada.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Okay.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah. Okay.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Moving on. My first guest today was an author. We talked about it. I told her that we watched Luckiest Girl Alive last night. And I don't know what order this is going to air, so go listen to Jessica Noel's episode on Barely Famous. We have talked a lot about your interests with film and ASL and all the things. And I know that you want to go to college for asl, but you also do have interest in filmmaking and acting and theater and things like that. And she actually wrote a book and she said that she wrote. She wrote. What is it called? Is it called a screenwrite screenplay? So her. Her book was. Had an adaptation with Mila Kunis that we watched last night. And she wrote that script too. And I had. I don't know any other authors that had the rights to do that. Like, usually when you sell them or you option them off, you're not really part of that process. But she said it was really important to her. And I thought that was kind of cool because. Yeah, you just made your first short film.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

So I thought that was so cool. And you're also doing some other things that you're working on, and I thought that was cool and kind of right up your alley. I wish that you would have came for that one. But hopefully in the future we'll be able to work together. But. So no more nyu, or do you still want to visit nyu?

[Elliot Maher]

We can visit it, I guess,

[Kaitlyn Maher]

if you're not like top five. Maybe not.

[Elliot Maher]

Well, like, but we have to make the vacation out of it. Like, we're gonna tour every school.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Let's go everywhere else. We've been to New York.

[Elliot Maher]

Okay. Okay. So maybe not nyu.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Okay. But rit. Okay, cool. Okay, deal.

[Elliot Maher]

I only really have a top two schools right now.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

UNC Greensboro. Yeah, rit, that's it.

[Elliot Maher]

I haven't explored others.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

What about Clemson? Would you ever entertain Clemson?

[Elliot Maher]

I don't know where that is.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Clemson is in South Carolina, but it's like a really, really big school. And I don't think that they have like a tight knit, like, theater program, but I know it's like a really good school. Does that make sense?

[Elliot Maher]

Okay.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

But I don't know if there's like a big gay community there, so I just don't know. I worry about that piece of it.

[Elliot Maher]

I think I would prefer a more low key, like, smaller school, tight knit community.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Okay.

[Elliot Maher]

Just because, you know.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

But with city options. Because I feel like you don't Belong in a small town.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah. Okay.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Do you know what I mean?

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Like, I think just like, even if it's like a close knit community or like close knit school but in a bigger city, so you have sort of the best of both worlds would be cool.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

You know what I mean?

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah. That's why Greensboro is perfect too.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Yesterday, in real time, we said goodbye to Lincoln for the summer, unfortunately.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah.

[GoFundMe Narrator]

Yeah.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

And we went to his moving up ceremony where he gets promoted from intermediate school to high school. And what award did he win?

[Elliot Maher]

It was for integrity.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

And you just didn't align with that?

[Elliot Maher]

No.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

And Ellie.

[Elliot Maher]

And I knew he was going to get it too. I had a feeling.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

But what's so funny is that I thought he was gonna get the compassion one.

[Elliot Maher]

I would. I hoped, I would hope he would.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

But what's so funny to me is that before Lincoln got his name got called. And I don't know if Lincoln knew that he was going to get it. I thought he was gonna get the compassion one. And so they talk about the integrity one. And Elliot's on my right and we're watching over the balcony and he looks at me and he's like, if Lincoln gets this, I just don't agree.

And I start laughing and I go,

but he's a different kid at home and at like as a brother.

[GoFundMe Narrator]

Right.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Like, he's a good kid. He's great with his siblings, all of the things. He's also a great like kid at school. But I think because you are his older brother, like, you're like, why would he get that?

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah. I'm not gonna snitch on him for anything right now.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

It's because you know more than I do. And it's because you're the older brother. Yeah, but I just thought that was so funny because. And then here goes Creeds, like every minute I have to go pee. I have to go pee. Like, I am never bringing you guys to another ceremony. But I don't actually mean that at all.

[Elliot Maher]

There was like three bathroom breaks. Like,

[Kaitlyn Maher]

and I. So the day before that, Lincoln and Lux and Creed went with me to drop off the babies to Elijah for. To. For us to go to Lux and Creed ceremonies. And Lincoln said, I'm not gonna see them again until the end of the summer. And I. It just like completely went over my head and I wasn't thinking about it and I was like, oh. And I had to like hold tears back. So I was like, I need to go get ready. Like, there's ceremonies today, whatever. And I just like, didn't think about it, but how have you been handling not seeing each other for the whole summ. Be the second year that we've done this schedule.

[Elliot Maher]

I don't know. I think I'm numb to it at this point. I am going to call him, obviously, all the time, check in on him, text him, whatever.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

One of his best friends got to go to Virginia with him. So I was glad to see that he'll have somebody his age group, too. And then we have London to look forward to at the end of the summer, which I'm just.

[Elliot Maher]

This is true.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

I'll take just you and Lincoln. Plans have kind of changed, and so it'll just be Elliot and Lincoln, fortunately, but also unfortunately. And that'll be cool for you guys to, like, bond during that time. I think that'll be cool.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm definitely upset about him going, I think. I don't know. I wish I planned more to do with him before we left. I think we did. We did a few things. I mean, we hung out, like, a few times, but, you know, I wish, like, we did more. And, like, I think time moved by so fast. Like, I didn't realize.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Yeah.

[Elliot Maher]

And so, like, I felt like I had so much time. And then here we are.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

I think the ages that you guys are, because you guys are just about four years apart, you guys are on very different paths right now with him in sports. Like, his. Most of his friends are intertwined with his sports. And then most of your friends are like, drama. Not. They're not drama. I'm talking about drama club.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

And so I think typically when you're in high school, it's like, friends, friends, friends, friends, friends. And I completely get that. But I do think that next year with you driving and you guys driving to school together is also going to create, like, a good bonding moment. And then you being able to drive all next school year when he gets home from the summer.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

You guys, he.

If you ever wanted to include him in something with your friends, like, oh, I always do. Mature enough.

[Elliot Maher]

I always.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Yeah, I know you do. But he's mature enough now to be able to do it without being, like, the annoy. Even though I know sometimes he is,

[Elliot Maher]

I don't actually see it that way. Like, when he's hanging out with my friends and stuff, like, we love him. He makes it more of a fun time. And your.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Your friends are really good to him.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah, they love him.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

So I think they love him. And like, your friend came to his moving on ceremony yesterday, which was so cute. And so I think that that'll also create like a good bonding moment for you guys because you're gonna be a junior. There's only one summer left after that. So knowing that it's possible that that next summer, you know, we don't. Things could change.

[Elliot Maher]

He.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

He might decide that he wants to, you know, be with us for me with this for the summer and not his dad for the summer. So I think that having that school year and bonding.

Yeah.

You guys are gonna fight, of course.

[Elliot Maher]

Oh, yeah.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

But.

But I think it'll be cool for you guys to have that time together, like going to school and things like that.

[Elliot Maher]

I think it'll be good.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

But I hope he does as un.

[Elliot Maher]

Is unideal a word in unideal or in ideal?

[Kaitlyn Maher]

It doesn't matter.

[Elliot Maher]

Who cares?

[Kaitlyn Maher]

I've proven that I have zero brain cells left over the course of the day. So whatever it is, I don't even remember what I was saying. So we can move on no matter

[Elliot Maher]

how unideal or whatever.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Oh, the, the schedule and us living in different states or whatever, like, yeah, we're as close to 50, 50 as possible. And. But I think that just having that before he goes away potentially next summer to his dad's, like, you guys will have that. And I, I really appreciate that is all. I think that's where I was trying to go with this, but I think I repeated it three times.

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[Kaitlyn Maher]

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[Kaitlyn Maher]

So yeah, and then after this we'll do I have to do ads before I go and then I have a meeting and then that'll be the work day. But I think our cousin's gonna come see us. She lives in Hoboken and she's gonn us tonight at the hotel.

[Elliot Maher]

Oh cool.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Yeah.

[Elliot Maher]

Have I met her or him? Him? Her.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Elliot. Yes. You've known her your whole life.

[Elliot Maher]

Wait, say it again.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Our cousin is coming to see us at the hotel.

[Elliot Maher]

Which cousin?

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Jen. One of the twins.

[Elliot Maher]

Oh. Oh, okay. Oh okay. Sorry, you didn't say her name.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

No, I didn't. I just said our cousin was going to come see Us. And then you said, do I know her or him?

[Elliot Maher]

Oh, okay.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

I only talk to three people in our family. My bad.

[Elliot Maher]

I'm sorry.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Anyway, so, yeah, that's our work day in New York for Friday. And then Saturday I have. I'm filming all day, and Elliot is going to be in, hanging out.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

And that'll be a bonding experience, I feel, for sure.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Also, while you were sleeping this morning, I was diagnosed with celiac disease, so gotta figure that out. I don't know. I only eat processed foods, so I don't know.

[Elliot Maher]

Like, everything's processed.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Yeah. So I'm not entirely sure how I'm gonna get away from gluten, because it's not just, like, wheat.

Right.

Like, it's. Everything we eat has gluten. So I. I'll probably cry a lot the rest of the year while I figure this out. I've already started chatgpting how to clean, but then it's like, how do I feed a family of nine? And I will have a completely different diet than everybody else in the family. It's already challenging enough, and now I'm gonna throw this in the mix. So I don't know. That's gonna be a whole journey, I think, trying to figure that out. And then Elliot. When I told Elliot this morning before we left, he said, is that genetic? And it 100% is genetic. I mean, there's some environmental factors, but I don't know if, like, now do we get. You test, like, I don't even know how this works. So when I talk to the doctor, I gotta ask a lot of questions.

[Elliot Maher]

I would rather not know. And keep eating gluten. Yeah.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Here's the thing is that I've wanted an answer for so long, several years, I don't want the answer since I started shitting my pants. And I. So everyone on this. The reason why I even got tested for celiac disease was because of my listeners. They were like, you should be tested for celiac. They kept telling me that over the years, and I would just be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I never did it. And so then when I did it, I was like. Like, when I got the results, finally, on one hand, I'm happy I got them because if you continue to eat gluten and you just don't change your diet at all, you're. You severely increase your risk of cancers and blood cancers and things like that. And so I was like, well, I almost wish that I. I didn't know so that I could just live in ignorant Bliss. But then on the flip side of it is, like, I do have seven kids to live for. I don't really want to increase my chances, but my.

My.

My levels are so far off the charts for, like, the test that I was like, I'm so scared. And so then I text Becky, and she sends me, like, chat. GPT stuff, and it says, like, don't cut out gluten until your doctor tells you to, because you have to get, like, a biopsy or, like, an endoscopy and things like that. And so if you turn around and cut out gluten before that and your test comes back to normal, it, like, muddies the water on your diagnosis. And so you kind of have to. To keep everything the same. But then it's like knowing that I have it and I have to change it soon, and then I'm about to go on the road. What the am I gonna eat? Do you know what I mean?

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Everything has gluten.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

And everything that I don't eat doesn't.

[Elliot Maher]

Right. So that's gonna be hard. So, I don't know.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

I say all this to say, like, I guess no more dino nuggets.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah, but do you really eat those that much?

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Five times a week.

[Elliot Maher]

Oh, okay.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

I know you're at your dad's, but, like.

[Elliot Maher]

No, no, I eat a lot of.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

No, I can have potatoes. Potatoes don't have gluten.

[Elliot Maher]

Oh, nice.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Allegedly.

[Elliot Maher]

Okay, so, well, but pierogies, you eat the packaged ones, the ones that go in the air fryer.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

You don't have to call me out. You don't have to call me out.

[Elliot Maher]

You don't have to has gluten. Mom, I'm pretty sure that has gluten.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

But you know what doesn't have gluten. I'm pretty sure Bloom doesn't have gluten. And I know Ghost doesn't have gluten, so thank Rihanna for that.

[Elliot Maher]

We're chill.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

I. It's gonna be a journey, I think.

[Elliot Maher]

I can't wait to see how this turns out.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

I just wonder if anyone listening? If you have. If you have celiac disease, do you still eat gluten? Yeah. Like, can I eat a little bit of it or should I not? Also, will I stop my pants now if I go gluten free?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Elliot Maher]

You know what? I think you should stop being gluten just for that. I don't know. I'm sorry.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

That's fine. How's everything else, though?

[Elliot Maher]

Great. Lots. Lots of things I'm working on.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

You know, you Were working on a project in the car.

[Elliot Maher]

Yes. So I am producing, directing, writing a script for another short film. I made one a few weeks ago.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

We talked about it on the podcast.

[Elliot Maher]

Oh, yeah, we did. Yeah, you're right. So made that short film a few weeks ago was like 10 minutes long, quick little improv, like, just made up on the spot. And it was great.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

It was so. It was so good. I was so impressed.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah. And so. And we. All we had was a digital camera. Like, we just made it up on the spot, made up as we went. So, you know, I think it went really well for. For how it was, you know, like, for. For us to wing it. And then it. The way it turned out, like, I think it went amazing.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

I think my only feedback was just the lighting, which you didn't have any control over because it wasn't planned out. But outside of the lighting situation, I mean, I was. So I kept saying, like. And we talked about it on coffee combo. So if you guys want to go listen to that. It's a couple weeks ago with Elliot and Lincoln. And so he talked about the film, and you can. You can go over there. But I thought. I thought you did a great job. And I could.

I kept asking, like, you edited this.

Like, you did that, but. So you finished the second script for your second short film.

[Elliot Maher]

Well, first script. Because the first one wasn't script.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Oh, right, right, right, right, right.

[Elliot Maher]

So I wrote a script on the way here. I finished it on the way here. It took me two to three days

[Kaitlyn Maher]

to write it, which is quick.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah, well, I was locked in. I had it all planned out.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

And also, you've been out of school, so that's fair.

[Elliot Maher]

Well, I mean, just this week.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Yeah. And you fit. You wrote it this week.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

It's not like you were going to school for eight hours and then coming home and finishing and writing.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah, because. Yeah, so. So, yeah, it was pretty. It was a really fun idea. My friend helped me out with it because I was telling her. I was like, you know, oh, well, I was showing her the short film that I made before because I was like, you know, this. This was really fun. She was asking about it too, because, you know, and so I showed it to her and she was like, you know, like, it would be really cool if you made another one. Like, I would do it if you wanted to. And I was like, oh, okay. So we started, like, theorizing and came up with an idea. And so I started writing it, like, the next day. Got it done on the way Here to New York to last night or yesterday.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Yeah.

[Elliot Maher]

It's a horror film. I'm hoping that I can release it, put on YouTube or something. I'm set to film this month, so

[Kaitlyn Maher]

I'm really excited you included Lux.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

As a character, which I think is so funny.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

And what's so interesting about having all of you guys have such different personalities. You and Lux are the. In my opinion, because of how much you guys want to be in the public eye in certain ways, like acting, modeling, things like that. Lux needs to do comedy. It makes sense for you to include him.

[Podcast Host - Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Because I think people are going to ask, well, why wasn't Lincoln in it? Or why wasn't, you know, the rest of your siblings? They're like, lincoln will be in content, but it's not his main focus. It's not something that he.

[Elliot Maher]

He likes drive to do that.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Like, he'll be in our content or, like, take pictures and stuff. But it's not like he, like, he's not like, oh, let's film this, or, like, let's make this. And Lux is very much like, wants to do all the things. So I think that's really cool for him to be in it. And I hope that he listens because he keeps asking me to take him to Aud, and I'm like, my biggest fear is bringing out your brother to New York or LA or Chicago or whatever. And he gets in front of a room, in a room with people he doesn't know and has to have the same confidence he has at home with all of us. And I don't want to set him up for failure. So I feel. And it sounds good because I feel like I could say that all day until I get in front of these people and now. Do you know what I mean?

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

So I think this will be a good place for him to start.

[Elliot Maher]

And I agree. I was going to say that, too. I think that once, especially once I get the script printed and he can see.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

He.

[Elliot Maher]

He asked me, actually, he asked me, he was like, can I have it, like, on paper so I can look at it?

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Lux said this.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah. And I was like, yeah, I'll pray it out for you, because, you know. Yeah. So I think also it'll give him more of an idea of what it's actually like. Because I think he was very confused when I asked him. He was like, well, because when I showed him the script, the part that for the opening scene, he's in the opening scene, he was confused because in it, one of the characters Asks him if he likes candy. And he was like, well. And he's supposed to reply with, yes. Like, what candy do you have? And he. He was confused because he was like, I don't really like candy that much.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

I thought you were gonna say mom taught me Stranger danger. Well, yeah, he said that. He basically said that, too, too, because.

[Elliot Maher]

So it's a horror film, and he's supposed to get kidnapped, and he's one

[Kaitlyn Maher]

kid that nobody would. I mean, they'd give him right back.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah. No, he wouldn't. He wouldn't. He's not that dumb. He. He looked at me and he was like, I would beat this person up.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

We know.

[Elliot Maher]

And I'm like, just act it out. Act it. Just for the film.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

He said, I don't really like candy. He didn't understand that it's not real. Because I think our background is in reality tv. And, like, scripted versus unscripted is so different.

[Elliot Maher]

It is. Yeah.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

And so I think that it's a skill. Like, when I see people acting, I'm like, I don't know how you are doing this in such a way that is so compelling that I literally believe you to be a real person and a real. Like, you're not just a character. And I think that.

That.

That's hard. But for sure, we'll see how he does. I think with. With your coaching and your guidance, I think he'll do a good job.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

And if not, then we find somebody else. Maybe Creed will do it.

[Elliot Maher]

Maybe. Maybe.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Yeah. Creed might impress you. Creed's a little.

He's. He's.

I feel like he could do it.

[Elliot Maher]

I think so, too. On it. I think he'd be a good backup, for sure.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

They're both very coachable in terms of, like, just, like, encouragement. I think ESPE in sports, too. Like, very, very coachable. Coachable in terms of, like, what to do or, like, what plays to do. Like, they were very, very coachable. So I think, you know, if this is something Lux wants to do, he might be. And also, I need to not be there, because I think that he might give you a harder time if I'm there.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah. I think the only concern I have is his adhd. He'll be bouncing off the walls. He'll be impatient. And that's the only concern I have.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Okay.

[Elliot Maher]

If you understand, because I do. Yeah. I'm hoping it'll be fine. Cause once I give him the piece of paper and explain to him how it works or whatever, I think this will be a really good experience for him. To understand like oh, I have to play a different character. It's not me. You.

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[Kaitlyn Maher]

The world of acting is so scary to me because I never want you guys, you specifically, because your siblings are not as old as you are. But, like, I don't want it to break you when you're so young because I think the world of acting and modeling too is like, there is a lot of no's at first. I think a lot of people experience, like, rejection or turn, you know, turn aways. And I don't want you to be. Be broke down before you're ready. I think that sometimes it's hard for anyone at any time, but like a kid, I'm like, if he doesn't get roles that he auditions for, like, I just. My mom, like, my mama heart is not ready for it.

[Elliot Maher]

I think there's a lot of things I could say about that. I think that's why I'm so grateful that you got me to do theater in high school starting freshman year, because, you know, that puts one experience on my belt. Two, I can grow and learn the theater etiquette, I guess, and, you know, it makes. It helps realize that it's okay to get a no and it's okay to, you know, be put somewhere that, you know, maybe you weren't expecting and ends up being a good experience for the most part. And I also think that's why I want to start now, is because if I can start now, I will have more. Like, I. I know I'm not ready to be in like, a film now. Absolutely not.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Right.

Like, right now you're just getting some experience.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah. So that's why I want to start now so that when I'm ready, I have a resume. I have experience. I have. Yeah. And so, you know, when that time comes and I land a role, like,

[Kaitlyn Maher]

do you feel like your experience in theater at school has prepared you for disappointment? Like, when you're auditioning for roles and maybe you get a different character in the play than you wanted, do you feel like that has helped you at all, or do you feel like you're just still disappointed?

[Elliot Maher]

Yes and no. Yes and I think both. I think it definitely sets the tone of reality because, you know, the truth is you cannot possibly please everybody. So you're.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

You mean like the person who is doing the, like, running the auditions, they can't please everyone?

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah. And so, like, like somebody is going to be disappointed. I see what you're saying, you know what I mean? So, like, you know. No, though, because, you know, reality also is that not everything. Like, not every audition process is fair either. So, like, you know. I mean.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Yeah.

[Elliot Maher]

Especially for a high school, like, you know.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Yeah, yeah, no, I get that. I think that you and Lincoln could relate in some ways when it comes to that, because for him, for sports, it's sort of the same concept, right? Like, for starting players versus second string versus offense, defense, whatever that looks like. Like, a coach might feel like he belongs here, but he wants to be a forward or whatever. I don't really know the soccer positions

[Elliot Maher]

either. I couldn't tell you.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Or like, for Lux, when the. His previous coach had him on defense and then she randomly decided to put him on offense, and she pulled me aside afterwards and was like, I cannot believe that I've left him on defense this long. He always needed to be on offense.

Like,

not everybody's willing to take that risk. And as your mom, like, even in your experience with theater, it's like, I just feel like some of the roles that you've gotten, I'm like, he deserved a better role. And so it's hard for me, too. So I can't imagine it not being hard for you.

[Elliot Maher]

And I think that's also why I really am excited to explore other theaters, you know, doing summer camps, things like that. Maybe doing theater outside of school instead of. Because getting a different experience, like, may have a different outcome and.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Oh, go ahead.

[Elliot Maher]

Sorry.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

No, no, I cut you off.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah. And, you know, when I'm stuck at school doing theater and there's no room for me to grow, I'm kind of just in the same spot every time. It's hard. So exploring other places would give me a better opportunity.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

I. I wholeheartedly agree with you. I think that if you're in the same place and you. You don't get another experience, you're not gonna ever be able to grow. Is there a world where you can merge ASL and theater at all or not really for a hearing person?

[Elliot Maher]

No, I don't think so. Because actually, like, is there.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

I guess what I'm asking is, is there a place for an interpreter in the acting world or. Yeah, like, I guess I don't know what I'm trying to say, but, yeah, for sure. Okay.

[Elliot Maher]

An interpreter. Like, for Broadway or for, like, theater shows? Yeah, yeah, that's a thing. But there also are companies and communities out there with deaf performances. Like, they have of musical shows and things like that for deaf people, and they sign like the character sign and. But the problem with that is that it's, I think, mostly or completely deaf people.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Okay.

[Elliot Maher]

So for me, I wouldn't be able to be a part of that. I don't think. I. I don't know too much about it, but that's how I'm pretty sure it is. Same thing for, like, deaf actors. They're not looking for hearing people who can sign. They're looking for deaf factors to be in movies like that.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Okay.

So the whole thing is so fascinating to me because I don't know anything about either world.

[Elliot Maher]

No, that was a good question, though, because I don't. I haven't explored that that much.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Well, I was just wondering if there was a way for you because you have the passion for both. So I didn't know if there was a way for you to kind of integrate them or. I would love them somehow or, like, interpret. Kind of like what we talked about on coffee combos where, like, you could have your. We'll call it a corporate job of interpreting in a healthcare setting or an embassy or whatever, and then do the freelance of, like, interpreting for, like, a theater situation or become an. Maybe you're an actor and you're acting as an interpreter, but you also are an interpreter. Like, I just don't know if there's a world. But it's so niche that those opportunities might be very few and far between. So.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah, well, the. I'm watching a show. This is kind of just one of those shows that I have watched forever and I haven't switched at birth.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

I've heard of it.

[Elliot Maher]

And one of the main girls is Death. And so there's a lot of signing involved. And if there was another show like that that would give hearing people an opportunity, because there are hearing people on those shows that either they sign or they're learning how to sign or sign because they have to for the role or whatever. Yeah. I think that if there was another show like that out there that would work. Or like.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Oh.

[Elliot Maher]

Or like Ginny and Georgia. One of the characters, the dad in that show is deaf, and the rest of the family is hearing, and they all sign.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Oh, that's cool.

[Elliot Maher]

So, like that.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

I love the representation.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah. So that would. That would be a opportunity for hearing people to sign and act. There's only thing I could think of,

[Kaitlyn Maher]

a book that I read in the beginning of my reading journey. I want to say this is circa 2021. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe a little bit after that. And I wonder it. One of the characters is hard. Hard of hearing. I think if I remember correctly, it's been a long time or he was deaf and I think he signed and I wonder if. If they ever did like a book to movie adaptation. Like that would be cool.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

On that one it's called Archer's Voice.

[Elliot Maher]

Oh yeah. You talked about this to me. Yeah.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

The smut scenes really made me cringe. So I would suggest maybe taking some of those out for the adaptation. But it just makes my face turn red and I just don't like it. But outside of that was like a really cool book in terms of like the plot or whatever. But I think that could be cool. So similar concept to what you're describing.

[Elliot Maher]

I think if I end up. Or I probably will, but I think if I end up continuing to be a part of film and things like that, if I end up doing that professionally, I would love to write a story with a deaf character or.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Oh, okay.

[Elliot Maher]

Because you know, we don't have enough of that. That we don't at all.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

But we talked about this a really long time ago. It's not just deaf and hard of hearing. It's also like toddlers, the autism community,

[Elliot Maher]

non verbal, non verbal communities.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Like I think that's true. There's a lot to be said there too. So it doesn't always have to be deaf and hard of hearing. So there's definitely opportunity for you. I don't think outside of Kennedy Ryan, who is one of my favorite authors, she is an autism mom and she talks about it. She has included that in her book.

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[Kaitlyn Maher]

One of. One of her books or maybe several that I haven't read yet. But the representation of deaf, hard of hearing and autism and non verbal communities in the book world too. So like kind of like merging all of your loves in one thing is like the writing, the movie, the asl. Like putting that in a book could be a really cool idea.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah, for sure.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

I just, I don't know how that comes across to those communities from someone who is not autistic, not hard of hearing and not deaf. I don't know how that comes across. I would maybe consider a sensitivity reader, which is something that the authors that I've talked to have told me about when they're doing something that they have not experienced themselves. They interview people and have readers from those communities give their feedback on the characters that they've written. So there's definitely a world to do that. I just think you have to be very, very careful and considerate and sensitive when you do do it.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

But with the Right. I think research and interviews that you. You could execute. And I think people will like, maybe appreciate it from you because you have had a love for that for so long.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah, for sure.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

So that's cool.

[Elliot Maher]

Go ahead. Sorry. I definitely agree with you. I didn't know about that. Like the sensitive. The people that like sensitivity readers. Yeah, I didn't know about that.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

It's not just for the communities that we were just talking about. It's also for like sexual assault or I don't know why, like incarcerated parents comes to mind. I don't know why that did. But things that are any aces, sort of like trigger warnings, you can reach out to people who read specifically for that to like give feedback or you can interview people who have gone through it to really get a full picture in order to depict it properly.

[Elliot Maher]

Okay.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

So I think that that could be an option down the road if you ever wanted to merge the worlds. I think that. Yeah, that could be cool.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah. So for sure.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Said all that to say support the dream.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah. Yeah. I would be so interested to do so short.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Short film.

Second short film this summer.

[Elliot Maher]

Yep.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Driving all summer.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Driving with Lincoln to school next year. What else? What else do you have going on? London this summer.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah, yeah, London. I'm hoping to be doing a theater summer camp this year. I found one and I auditioned. I haven't heard back yet, but I'm supposed to be hearing back like by Monday.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Okay. So today's Friday, so we still have time, I would imagine. Probably nobody is working on Saturday. Sunday.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah, I know.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Over there. But hopefully I'm sure you'll get it.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

But even if it's just meeting new people would be great.

[Elliot Maher]

Yeah, for sure. For sure. And it's definitely experience. I'll have fun regardless, so. Oh, volunteering. I'll probably be volunteering a lot this summer. Had a lot of fun doing that this past school year.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

I'm glad. Well, I appreciate you coming on Barely Famous. I'm glad that we could do this random episode. I. My last guest canceled and said I was gonna just do a solo and

so it worked out.

But I'm glad to have you at work with me.

[Elliot Maher]

Of course.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Where can people find you on socials?

[Elliot Maher]

Isaac, Elliot are on Instagram and all of my other socials are linked on there.

[Kaitlyn Maher]

Thanks.

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