This is the final part of my conversation with Gary Stevenson, recorded before his documentary came out, and it's the most personal of the three episodes.

We talk about why meritocracy is a myth, why success is mostly survivorship bias, and why Gary treats fame and politics as a game (his words, not mine, and he's honest about what that's covering for).

He also breaks down Jeff Bezos's "why are nurses paying taxes" clip and explains the oldest trick in the book: bribing you with your own money.

And he gives me my 100,000 subscriber play button, which meant more than I can easily say.

This channel exists because of Gary's callout in May, and because of the community around it. This episode is about that community, and how you can be part of it, whether that's making videos, joining a party, talking to your friends and family, or just sharing the ideas in your own words.

NB: The full uncut conversation is on my Patreon

I’m Barry Ferns, a comedian whose personal journey through failure, homelessness, and rebuilding led me to explore the socio and behavioural economics of inequality.

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