2024 Barstool Pick Em CFB Playoff Special

Summary

Barstool Pick Em: 2024 CFB Playoff Special – Episode Summary

Podcast: Barstool Pick Em
Episode: 2024 CFB Playoff Special
Date: December 19, 2024
Hosts: Big Cat (Dan), Pres (Dave Portnoy), Rico Bosco, with Hank and occasional appearances by others

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Overview

In this special bowl season and College Football Playoff (CFB) episode, the Barstool Pick Em crew reunites to discuss their gambling records, recap Barstool drama, and dive deep into the biggest games of college football’s playoff and bowl season. Combining signature banter, inside jokes, and heavy doses of gambling analysis, Big Cat, Pres, and Rico offer “can’t-miss” picks (often jokingly referred to as losers), discuss the rapidly changing world of college sports, preview every playoff matchup, and each unveil their full playoff brackets.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Gambling Records & Season Recap

Timestamps: 01:27 – 02:10

• Rico celebrates his successful season, leading the Pat Hill trophy standings with 54.8% win rate; Dave (Pres) trails at 49.7%, and Big Cat is disappointed at 45.8%.
• Rico is "betting every single game on the board" for bowl week in hopes of a last-minute surge.

Quote:
"I love that. Dave, I'm jealous of the position you're in because if I were in your position, I'd go down swinging."
— Dan (Big Cat), 01:55

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2. Barstool Drama: O’Malley, Brianna Chickenfry, Kirk Minihane, Social Media, and Internet Hate

Timestamps: 02:24 – 14:26

• Rico describes being embroiled in the middle of a feud involving O’Malley and Brianna Chickenfry, leading to widespread attention on TikTok and gossip sites.
• The cast discusses how certain Barstool personalities receive disproportionate hate or adoration online, the strange allegiance of "gossip girls" to Kirk Minihane, and the odd world of content algorithms.
• Debate on whether Barstool needs "an HR department" is sparked by Whitney Cummings' TikTok.
• General consensus: internet lore is overwhelming, and some drama is best ignored.

Notable Quotes:
"It's a gutter war, it's a gutter war in Russia. So I'm glad I'm done with it."
— Rico, 03:31

"The hate is a real thing, like, she can't move without getting hate... I've never seen so much hate directed at one human in 20 years."
— Rico on Brianna, 08:05

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3. Company Meeting Recap & Work Culture

Timestamps: 15:31 – 19:10

• The annual company meeting lasted only four minutes, delighting the crew with its brevity.
• Jokes fly as Rico is accused of not being present on Zoom and not standing for the troops at a St. John’s game.
• Light-hearted ribbing about Barstool’s corporate culture and office dynamics.

Quote:
"I was just so happy because... we're back to Barstool world where it's like, alright, here's the deal, guys. Keep working. Okay, see you next year."
— Dan, 15:42

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4. College Basketball, Bad Beats & “The Millennium Falcon Play”

Timestamps: 20:23 – 22:29

• Update on Barstool’s in-house college basketball contests: “Bama’s looking good,” per Dave.
• Rico laments a legendary gambling mishap dubbed “The Millennium Falcon Play,” symbolizing the heartbreak of CBB betting.
• The crew agrees college hoops is the hardest sport to gamble on, with daily bad beats.

Quote:
"You can't build on a Millennium Falcon play when it loses the first one. I was going to have Star Wars stuff. I had it all ready to go."
— Rico, 21:54

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5. NFL (Super Bowl Futures, Injuries, and Contradictions)

Timestamps: 24:43 – 26:42

• Brief debate about which NFL teams have value heading into the playoffs. Disagreement about the Chargers’ recent form leads to a running joke about giving “patently incorrect information.”
• Picks touched upon: Eagles, Packers (as a dark horse), Ravens.

Quote:
"It's like you have this thing where you want to contribute and you don't know. It's a befuddling thing. You've had it your whole life."
— Rico to Dave, after Dave's wild Chargers take, 26:04

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6. Mr. Ice’s Legendary Losing Streak

Timestamps: 27:15 – 31:30

• Discussion around Barstool personality "Mr. Ice" and his catastrophic run of losses betting on hockey. The crew commiserates, with Big Cat joking it’s gotten so bad, it’s affecting their friendship.
• Rico calls Mr. Ice, who confesses: "I can't really function right now. I'm losing all the time."

Quotes:
"He can't even function. Like, it's not an act."
— Rico, 30:30

"I'd almost rather he – what's the old, who the fuck was the player who's like, I'd rather go 0-for-30 than 0-for-9 because that means I kept on shooting. Elio is the opposite."
— Dan, 28:46

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7. Playoff Seeding, Paths, and System Flaws

Timestamps: 32:15 – 36:19

• Penn State’s “incredible” playoff path is highlighted.
• Dave pivots on his long-held belief: “If you win your conference, you should get the top four byes,” calling it a “fuck up”—now the committee should just seed 1-12 regardless.
• Concerns raised about opt-outs and disruptive transfer portal timing.

Quotes:
"You have to seed these teams 1 to 12... this is a disaster of a [system]."
— Dave, 32:44

"The easiest fix is get rid of conference championships and start the playoffs the week after Thanksgiving..."
— Dan, 35:41

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8. In-Depth Playoff Game Picks

Timestamps: 36:19 – 45:10

• Each of the four quarterfinal CFB playoff games is picked with debate, reasoning, and more classic Pick Em banter:

  Indiana vs. Notre Dame (South Bend)

  • Notre Dame -7, O/U 52; picks: Dave likes under, Rico shares roots for ND but betting with caution, Dan takes Indiana +7.

  SMU at Penn State

  • Penn State -8.5, O/U 54; Dan and Dave think PSU rolls, Rico takes SMU plus the points.

  Clemson at Texas

  • Texas -12, O/U 52; Dave is anti-Texas, takes Clemson and the points, Rico agrees; Dan takes Texas, citing Clemson’s struggles vs. better teams.

  Tennessee at Ohio State

  • Tennessee +7, O/U 46; Dan and Rico like Tennessee with the points (stress in Columbus), Dave points to OSU’s bounce-back ability and takes the Buckeyes.

• Skirmishes over “devaluing the Michigan game” and how pressure narratives swirl around coaches and programs (especially Ohio State/Ryan Day).

Quotes:
"As long as you don't see those winged helmets, their little dicks don't curl into their little stomachs and they don't puke on themselves, they're still one of the more talented teams."
— Dave, 44:01

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9. Special Picks, Bowls, and Mortal Locks

Timestamps: 46:38 – 51:57

• Dave reveals his “Pinstripe Bowl Curse” theory—his uncle’s history as security, picking NEBRASKA as a “mortal lock.”
• Rico unleashes the full board: he is betting every single bowl game, rattling off rapid-fire picks.
• Group rounds out their "mortal locks" for the week.

Rico’s Mortal: BYU +3 vs. Colorado
Big Cat’s Mortal: Nebraska -2.5
Group picks: Variety, including SMU and South Carolina -9.5

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10. Hot Topics & Final Bracket Picks

Timestamps: 51:57 – End

• Dave answers how he’d negatively recruit against Bill Belichick at UNC (“You’re not going to be able to use social media...”) and slams Doug Gottlieb for poor performance as a coach and bad memes.
• The crew shares their full College Football Playoff brackets, each with a unique take:
  • Big Cat: Oregon over Penn State in the final.
  • Rico: Ohio State over Notre Dame, in a “sad, pathetic” natty no one truly cares about.
  • Dave: Oregon over Georgia.

Quote:
"Oregon national champions, finally get through the cracks here and hang a banner."
— Dave, 56:26

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "You want to get down to business when it's time to get down to business. Love Rose Sparks."
  — Dave (inferred ad read), 23:00

• "This is the beginning of them devaluing the Michigan game... Their tiny little dicks curl into their stomachs when they see us coming."
  — Rico, 45:32

• "It's been a while since he bet every game on the board."
  — Dan, 50:44

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 01:27 – Season records & Pat Hill standings
• 02:24 – Barstool drama & internet hate
• 15:31 – Company meeting feedback
• 20:23 – College basketball, CBB betting
• 24:43 – NFL playoff futures debate
• 27:15 – Mr. Ice betting meltdown
• 32:15 – Playoff seeding & system roast
• 36:19 – Playoff game picks breakdown
• 46:38 – Bowl picks, “Pinstripe Curse,” mortal locks
• 51:57 – Final bracket reveals & rapid-fire hot takes

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Tone and Language Recap

True to Barstool’s style, the episode blends locker-room humor, insider references, honest (often self-deprecating) takes, and sharp-tongued debates. The show’s rhythm is built on quips, roasts, but also genuine gambling insight for listeners seeking both entertainment and picks.

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Conclusion

With bowls and the all-new 12-team CFB Playoff approaching, the Pick Em crew keeps it classic: sharp betting talk, joke-laden culture war commentary, and a crew whose lovable dysfunction mirrors the chaos of college football itself. If you want picks, laughs, and a heavy dose of Barstool nonsense, this playoff special delivers—and sets the stage for playoff chaos and another round of Pick Em bragging rights.

Transcript

[Dan]

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[Dan]

Rico, I think you've done it. I'm going to say it right now. Pat Hill trophy, 54.8%. Incredible year. Dave. 49.7. I had 45.8. Terrible year for me. But Rico, also, I'm not.

[Rico]

I'm not conceding yet. Oh no, I'm not.

[Dave]

I'm not taking it yet.

[Dan]

Okay?

[Dave]

I'm not taking it.

[Dan]

I like that I have.

[Rico]

I'm betting every single game on the board. So if I have a crazy ass week, then who knows?

[Dan]

I love that. Dave, I'm jealous of the position you're in because if I were in your position, I'd go down swinging.

[Dave]

Just an all time at all time comeback.

[Dan]

Fighting hard. And Rico's going to play four corners, so you got to.

[Dave]

No, I have. I have bowls and we have all the playoff.

[Dan]

Okay, you got bowls. But great job so far this year. Rico and EBO. 10 and 5 on on mortals. Bob Diaco that one already was wrapped up. Yeah. Great job, Rico. Sing your praise so far.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Yeah. So how we doing, boys? We haven't talked in a couple weeks. We feeling good.

[Dave]

How you doing, Dave? Feel like a lot's been going on.

[Rico]

You mean with the. I thought at first you're gonna talk about you throwing your stick at me. You're talking about.

[Dave]

Yeah, that. I mean, you got that. You got a lot of things going on. Yeah, it's. It seems like you're stressed around the holiday.

[Rico]

Yeah. I don't know if stressed is the way. As in the middle of, like, obviously, o' Malley and Bri is everybody on Tick Tock and girly drama and gossip sites. Their friendship fell apart and I was in the middle of it. As I would say, barstool was actually in the middle of it. Not just me, but. Yeah. So that I've been dealing with that. It is what it is.

[Dan]

Can't escape it.

[Hank]

It's like every. Every time I go online, it's everywhere.

[Dan]

I'm on a different. I'm on a different online.

[Rico]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Dan has.

[Rico]

It's weird. It depends who you talk to. Right. It's like, I see it.

[Dave]

I don't. I don't actively go for it. That's what I'm saying. I'm not looking for it.

[Hank]

It just like, I'm seeing about me from, like, four years. I'm like, how is this still coming?

[Rico]

You.

[Dan]

Yes.

[Dave]

Yeah. There was one, though. Yeah. They did the Hank lore or something. It's. Yeah, they tied things.

[Rico]

I. I've seen Renee has been dragged into it. I actually talked to him. Like, you're going viral. It's like, for what? Like. Well, people are saying that I was defending o' Malley because I'm secretly in love with her. Because you resemble her in pictures. She's like, oh, well, I guess that's a compliment. She's like, omel is. I mean, Grace is pretty. So whatever it is, what it is, It's. It's a. It's a gutter war. It's a gutter war in Russia. So I'm glad I'm done with it. Like, well done with it. I was. I'm done with BFFs. I was always going to be done with BFFs. At the end of the year. I could have used this whole thing to blow up maybe, you know, a month after. The funniest part of this thing.

[Dan]

Is.

[Rico]

Like, these girls, these gossip sites, their new king is Minihan. They. They love Mini Hand and, like, Jeff Nadu and Anybody.

[Dan]

I don't understand the dub.

[Dave]

I don't get that. That's the thing. Yeah.

[Dan]

I mean, that was a wild move, Dave, to fire Kirk over this. Because he did. It seemed like he did. Again, I have not followed this at all. It seemed like he didn't do anything wrong. It just. They're.

[Rico]

They're fired for four spot seconds. Listen, Kirk's going to play the Kirk thing. I am in the middle of and have been for two weeks of a gutter war that I couldn't get out of between two of our employees, who I like both of them. This isn't like fucking, you know, we not here. This isn't Clemmer verse, Tommy smokes or Clemmer versus Spider, where I clearly hate one of the combatants. I like both of them. So I'm trying to navigate in the middle. Mini hand. Yeah, Mini hand. And I know mini hand. So you want to go into the mini hand world. You're going to get in that world in the middle of this Mini hand and he's going to be. It was just strictly Taylor Swift, but Mini Hand led by that fucking loser Blind Mike or somebody in his crew, the Patreon. Bring up Brianna and Kirk's like, she's the biggest fraud on the planet. What a fraud. I didn't need that. And then everybody who has no idea who Kirk Minahan is is like, see, even her own co workers fucking hate her guts. Like, yeah, but it's mini hand.

[Dan]

So I'm. I. I literally have not seen. Like, Hank has told me a couple things, but, like, I don't. This just isn't my Internet. I don't know where because I'm not on Tick Tock.

[Hank]

I saw the clip of Kirk on Tick Tock calling him his sisters and that. That was laughing.

[Dave]

That's what he calls it.

[Dan]

Yeah, but he should have been fired, even for four seconds.

[Hank]

Shout out to my sisters.

[Rico]

I was so mad at him because it was. It was the chain of events. I was like, I. I lost my mind. I was so. I was like the last thing I wanted him involved. I should have said it. Reason why I said that. But he's like, I'll talk about what I want to. So I'm like, you're fired. And then two seconds later is unfired. But let me read you who sent me this.

[Dan]

This is. This is all like. It's so crazy because Dave's texting me. Like, I've been. I've been underwater with just football season trying to finish out football season. So it's like show to show to show.

[Hank]

That's something you go on Tik Tok either.

[Dan]

I don't go on Tik Tok Davis.

[Dave]

The way Tik Tok works, like, if you're interested in certain things, it finds its way to you. So like they do a crazy thing where on the bottom like if there was. I don't. Let's say there was pick them drama on the bottom there would be like, there would be a search bar and it would show you something else from Pick them like three years ago. That was drama as well. So you click that. You get into that, right?

[Dan]

Yeah. Like it's algorithm date.

[Rico]

Dave Austin's getting dragged.

[Dan]

Texted me what Austin get. There's.

[Hank]

There's girls who's like, it's like they have like, it's like it created its own economy where it's like they like. I saw like a video with a lot of likes. I was like, Austin made public apology about liking a comment from.

[Dan]

It's like, what Can I ask a naive question?

[Rico]

I gotta get, I gotta find it. But comments on Kirk Minahan.

[Dan]

Can I ask.

[Rico]

They are acting like he is Mother Teresa.

[Dan]

Can I ask a naive question? Because again, I, I am very out of the loop on this. I, I like, Hank has told me a couple times like, have you seen this? I'm like, no, I haven't. Dave's text me a couple times like, have you seen this? I'm like, no, I, I honestly have not. Do you think like, Dave, why did you. When you, when you defended Brianna that hard, you knew there was going to be reaction. Because there's people who hate everyone online.

[Rico]

She's gets the most hate we've any anybody had in 20 years. If somebody's got like, but is it hate?

[Dan]

Is it like, do you have to find it or is it. No, because I've not everywhere, like, if you asked me Brianna hated, I'd be like, no, I haven't seen any of it.

[Rico]

No, no, no, no, no. She is the most hated person we've had a lot of people go through. I've never seen so much hate directed at one human in 20 years. It's it, it, it. You can't avoid it.

[Dan]

But that can't be true, Hank.

[Hank]

It's a lot. I mean, again, it's like I. Kevin.

[Dan]

Got a lot of hate. Kevin got a lot of hate.

[Rico]

No, not like this. They. I don't even know that Tik Tok was around when that happened.

[Dan]

It's.

[Hank]

Yeah, it's like there's, there's It's. There's. There's an entire. Like, there's multiple people who make, like, video after video about every single interaction.

[Dan]

The mean girls got a lot of hate.

[Rico]

Nothing like this.

[Dan]

Yes. I'm just so out of the loop with this. And I'm. I gotta be honest, I'm. I'm kind of happy I'm out of the loop because it's just like, I have enough and problems. I gotta deal with that. It feels like I'd have to. I'd have to take a day off to catch up.

[Rico]

Where I gotta find. I mean, I'm laughing at the Kirk. The Kirk stuff is they love him. They have. You've seen a couple stoolies. Be like, these. These girls, like, have no idea who Kirk is.

[Dan]

How is the do in this now?

[Rico]

Because he jumped in the phrase saying I got soft. So everyone's like, here's the thing.

[Dave]

Anything to relate himself back to Boris.

[Rico]

Like. Like, Brianna's going. It's.

[Dave]

It's literally. It's. I've had this kid script to a T. It's crazy.

[Rico]

Where I can't believe I can find it.

[Hank]

Or I.

[Dave]

But then you, Dave, you put him in this loop when you retweet Nashtag Nadu.

[Dan]

Why do you do that?

[Dave]

Just let him fucking live on his own island?

[Dan]

But why do you care what these people are saying about me?

[Rico]

Laugh.

[Dan]

Why do you care that these people are like, you've had a rough two weeks.

[Dave]

You can laugh. You should laugh. It's the holidays.

[Rico]

You should laugh.

[Dave]

Jimmy V. Think laughing.

[Rico]

Why do you sense those comments?

[Hank]

Is it. I just texted you, Dave. I think it's this one.

[Dan]

But why do you care that they're championing Kirk? Like, why does that matter?

[Hank]

Kirk is zaddy.

[Rico]

Oh, yeah. Shout out to the redhead sisters. Here's the comments. Kirk low key. Gives daddy energy. I am unwell for thinking so. Kirk kink is real. Kirk is zaddy fangirling right now. Thinking about Kirk reading my comment. Zaddy Kirk, love to see it, Sister Kirk. Kirk says, Christ, we're here to guide you. Praise be Sister Kirk. Bless be the fruit. It's crazy. Here's why I care. Here's why I care. The hate is like a real thing that brown. Like, she can't move without getting hate. So if you have somebody at barstool who's like, I work with Brianna and she's the biggest fraud on the planet who has actually never met Brianna.

[Dan]

But that was about Taylor Swift, was it not?

[Rico]

It was, but he. Now he'll say it's just solely Taylor Swift. The way he said it in the clip, I. If I didn't know anything, I would have been like, this is about the larger thing not going on. Now he's like, I don't even know what's going on. That's why I apologize. But are these people all taking that acting like it's about Taylor Swift? No, they're acting about Brianna as a person.

[Dan]

Didn't they hate Brianna but, like, when she was dating Zach. Brian too.

[Rico]

Yes.

[Dan]

And then they liked her, and then they're so. They'll probably end up liking her again at some point.

[Rico]

What happened? And I can't believe we're going over this on pick them.

[Dan]

Yeah, I know. I. Rico started this because I.

[Dave]

All I did was say you had to come to the wheel.

[Dan]

It's also like, you guys are, like talking Chinese to me at this point.

[Rico]

O' Malley turned him. O' Malley turned him back against Brie. That's why I had Brie. O' Malley, like, turned the. Like, everyone. Bree broke up. Turns out 12 million. Everyone's like, bri, Bri, Bri. And she's finally. She went through a year of hate. Gone. It's like everyone's back on her side. O Ali, Bri hate each other more than I ever even knew or imagined. So fine. They don't like it. Whatever. It's over. Though. No one's really talking about that till.

[Dan]

Rico brought it up.

[Rico]

No plan. Bri, I've talked about. I don't even want to talk about. But plan. Bri, we don't have to.

[Dan]

You could you. I mean, we could.

[Dave]

I just said. I just said you're having a couple weeks. Like, I'm making sure you're all right. The one thing that made me laugh, like, whatever.

[Rico]

In the scheme of I'm friends with Brie, so I. I think it's all the hate she gets. I'm defending her. I like o'. Malley. O' Malley's getting no hate. O' Malley quits. She's gonna be a big star. She's gonna be a comedy like sensation. O' Malley doesn't need. O' Malley is the champion of the Internet right now. Sorry. I fight for the little people, the downtrodden, the ones getting stomped on. Kirk will go for the one o'. Malley. He doesn't need anything. I'm sure Kirk's gonna have a ball with this, too. I like listen. And there. There's different wars. There's different wars of different people fighting wildlings.

[Dan]

You're fighting wars everywhere.

[Rico]

But this thing, like, in the scheme of what I'm doing, it's crazy.

[Dan]

The whole thing is crazy because I have felt bad because, like, Dave's texted me a couple times being like, have you seen this? I'm like, I. I'm sorry. I don't. I need to. I need to catch up. I need to catch up on my lore, but I don't even want to. I don't think. And it seems like it's over.

[Hank]

Would you like to. Would you like to address the hr, lack of HR representation rumors?

[Rico]

Well, that's Whitney Cummings, who's, like, best friends with Brie. I mean, what happened?

[Hank]

Hr every video. It's like parcel needs an HR department. Like, where's.

[Rico]

By the way, Whitney Cummings are a little bit old to be using a filter to make you look like you're 20. Side note.

[Dan]

But Whitney Cummings, you got him back in the mud, Rico.

[Rico]

Whitney Cummings, who I like.

[Dave]

All I did was look out for him.

[Rico]

Whitney Cummings is savage. She's very funny. Is she like, does barstool have HR on a tik tok that she is using a filter? That. That is an obvious filter.

[Dan]

Oh, man, does have an HR department.

[Dave]

Dave, you hit 183 days. Let's focus on the.

[Dan]

Also, Dave, let's. Let's change topics with this.

[Rico]

And let me say this, okay? In the scheme of things I've been in, this is nothing. I'm. I'm literally the middle worse. Like, I'm not one of the combatants. I'm just trying to stick up for somebody I'm friends with who I feel like is getting unfairly roasted. And I see bulk re embraces side, which I said from the beginning.

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[Dan]

Dave. To segue to something else. I thought your company meeting was incredible. It was four minutes long. It was.

[Rico]

I saw you laugh when I was done with it.

[Dan]

It was so perfect. It was like I was just so happy because I. Listen, I. Yeah, you were like, do.

[Rico]

You want me to speak or anything? I'm like, it's not going to be very.

[Dan]

Yeah, I was like, I don't want to speak. But if you. I didn't know because like we've had company meetings in the past where it's been like an hour long suck fest of ourselves and videos and all that stuff. And I was very happy that we're back to barstool world where it's like, all right, here's the deal, guys. Keep working. Okay, see you next year. I was just like, perfect. This is what I wanted.

[Hank]

With a little like Oprah moment thrown in there.

[Dan]

Yeah, like, yeah, you got. Look under your chair. You gotta, you gotta.

[Rico]

Yeah, we fucking had good bonuses in a good year.

[Dan]

Yeah. What did you guys, what everyone else think of the meeting in here?

[Dave]

I thought the vibes in the Chicago.

[Dan]

Office were super high.

[Dave]

Yeah, I was just curious, Rico, what were the vibes in the New York. On a zoom, Jack, you know that fucking things like I was on the zoom. Like half the other fucking people I listened to the four minutes I was on the zoom. You want to come in and take personal shit every time you're fucking piece. Yeah, I just. You really are. You're a piece of shit. You're a piece of shit.

[Rico]

Were you not on the call, Rico?

[Dave]

I was on the call. I was on a zoom.

[Rico]

There's.

[Dave]

He's giving me shit. Cuz I wasn't in the office. I had to take care of something for the four minutes. He's a piece of shit.

[Dan]

There was reports Rico wasn't on the zoom, Dave.

[Dave]

No, not in the office.

[Rico]

I gotta be honest, your reaction is making me think maybe you.

[Dave]

I was on it. I was on it. He's a piece of shit.

[Dan]

So you were there?

[Dave]

Yes.

[Dan]

What did Dave say?

[Dave]

He said he was there for four minutes. Hey, everybody.

[Rico]

No, that. That's what Dan just said.

[Dan]

You were there. You Were there.

[Rico]

Were you there? I didn't. Why would this raise.

[Dave]

What does that say on my phone? End of company meeting. On the call, via the call, Facebook.

[Dan]

How long was he on there for?

[Rico]

Why are you getting so mad, though, if you were on?

[Dave]

Because I was stressed that I wasn't in the office for the four minutes I had to take care of something. That's what it was.

[Dan]

Sounds like you might not have been on.

[Dave]

I also want to say, Bosco, you got snakes in New York, man. I got three texts about you not being in the office.

[Rico]

That's it.

[Dave]

Yes.

[Dan]

Jack came up to me right after. He's like, word is Bosco wasn't on the Zoom. Ever pick up Bosco? What's this other thing where you just. You didn't stand for the troops?

[Dave]

I did see that. Yeah. That was a tough look. Yeah, I guess I was sitting. I didn't hear. It was the troop of the game. I didn't stand.

[Dan]

Did you guys see this?

[Rico]

No.

[Dave]

Yeah. They were chanting, you Rico at St. John's it was crazy.

[Rico]

Let me.

[Dan]

Let me see this. I'll send it to you. This is. Yeah, I. I didn't like that when I saw it.

[Hank]

Like a wounded warrior moment.

[Rico]

And.

[Dave]

Yeah, I didn't know that's what it was. I was checking my phone. It's not a good look.

[Dan]

It's just a zoom in a Bosco just not standing for the troops. And his little. And he's wearing his purple jumpsuit so everyone can see it's Bosco. I just sent it to the group.

[Dave]

They chanted, you, Rico, David St. John.

[Rico]

Yeah. But was that. Yeah. What does that have to do with.

[Dan]

I'm just saying that has nothing to do with you not standing for the troops.

[Dave]

Okay. It was a tough day. They got railroaded in the second half.

[Rico]

I'm getting reports that said, you're on for the beginning of the stream.

[Dan]

Oh. But not the end.

[Dave]

I watched.

[Dan]

The entire four minutes was too long. Did you just check you clocked in and clocked out?

[Dave]

Absolutely not.

[Dan]

So people would see that you were there.

[Rico]

All to fen.

[Dan]

Rico.

[Rico]

They turned on the Zoom, and I.

[Dave]

Could see he was on it like.

[Rico]

45 minutes before in the office.

[Dan]

Good job, Breek.

[Rico]

Yeah. This is tough.

[Dan]

Yeah, he's.

[Dave]

Yeah, it's tough.

[Dan]

They're all clapping and standing for the.

[Rico]

Troops, and Rico's gotta be a situational awareness, I guess.

[Dan]

Gotta stand for the troops.

[Dave]

I didn't realize that's what it was. Yeah, it was tough. It's tough. Look, St. John's people hate me.

[Dan]

Yeah, well, I mean, you hate them.

[Dave]

No, I just call their program what it is. The place is a dump.

[Dan]

Whoa, whoa. Okay, keep going.

[Dave]

I. I'm friends with the Mullins. I rooted for St. John's when they were with the Mullen. Right.

[Dan]

But you. This is a. This is a very RICO battle where you're like, St. John's hates me. It's like, I've heard you Talk shit about St. John's and dance on their grave literally every single year since I've known you.

[Dave]

Yeah, that's fair. I did meet Patino. Patino is nice.

[Dan]

Why do they hate me?

[Rico]

Yeah, I showed up.

[Dan]

I showed up to their game in a purple jumpsuit.

[Rico]

I mean, what, you went up and he cracked a joke in his face. I was there. Then you're the happiest guy in the world.

[Dan]

Oh, you did? What'd you say?

[Rico]

At Saratog?

[Dan]

Oh, yeah.

[Dave]

Coach, I don't need to. I don't want to bother you, but Zach Brazil's a rat. The fucking beat reporter from the Post. And he just started. His whole table started. Got a big, big laugh.

[Dan]

You didn't. You didn't ask him? What. What? St. John's succession plan is no favorite Bosco ism. When they hired Pitino, and Bosco's like, yeah, it's an okay hire, but, like, what are they going to do in seven years? He's old. Oh, man. How's college hoops going? How's. How's.

[Rico]

All right.

[Dan]

How's our team?

[Dave]

Bama's looking? We're looking good. We lost. Right. So we pick up Youngblood, 11 deep. Oats is talking about cutting the rotation down a little bit to get the right eight. We'll see a lot of openings. We're up there in the elite. That's all you can ask for. Went through a seven game stretch. 5 and 2. Should have beat Oregon. Got railroaded. Got killed by Purdue. Rightfully so. But I think we're right there. SEC is very difficult.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Dave]

So we'll see how it all goes. You could take five or six losses in the SEC and still be good, but. Yeah, you know, very much in touch with coach. We're looking good.

[Dan]

You can't. I mean, how many losses they have on the season?

[Dave]

Two.

[Dan]

Yeah, I mean, you. If you. You need a one or two seed.

[Dave]

They made it last year as a four.

[Dan]

Okay. Okay.

[Rico]

I bet my first day I was texting you, Dan. I had it because I was in a state I could gamble. I think five or six games. I think Five of them I was winning with like a minute and a half ago and lost, like, all of them.

[Dan]

You. I mean, you. You fucked me with your Millennium Falcon play.

[Rico]

That. That was a perfect example that they were up, what, eight with five minutes to go. They just stopped scoring.

[Dan]

Yeah, I. I took it right away. I mean, you name a play Millennium Falcon.

[Rico]

I like the thing that really hurts outside. I bet a ton on that game. You can't build on, like a Millennium Falcon play when it loses the first one. I was going to have Star wars stuff. I had it all ready to go.

[Dan]

You had the whole arsenal.

[Rico]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Yeah. College hoops is. It's. It's the hardest sport. It's my favorite difficult. It's my favorite to gamble on, but it's by far the hardest. It's just every night you're just sitting there. Like last night, I had UNC +4. They were down two with seven seconds left. They somehow get two shots off and miss them both and foul. So they lost.

[Dave]

Especially at Florida, that game.

[Dan]

Oh, you're lucky.

[Rico]

Yep.

[Dave]

Very lucky.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Dave]

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[Dan]

Travis Hunter won the Heisman.

[Dave]

Congrats.

[Dan]

That was huge. Needed it.

[Rico]

I, I, I'm about even now. In the year I was up 7 or 8 million.

[Dan]

Oh, oh man. I'm not even.

[Rico]

I had a great year but I have, I, I really haven't strung together two bets since July. I mean I've been losing a lot.

[Dan]

Dave. I did put, I did put a future. As soon as I hit Travis Hunter, I, out of respect. 19 to 1 Yukon.

[Rico]

I like that. That's the only game I won on Saturday. Them against Gonzaga.

[Dan]

Yeah. They lost three games in Maui. They had a bad Maui weekend. They lost two of them by one.

[Rico]

I don't hate that.

[Dave]

They'll be.

[Dan]

I was talking to Jack.

[Rico]

Super Bowl's wide open.

[Dan]

Yeah, wide open.

[Rico]

I think I'm glad I didn't get that Lions bet in there. Up 450 now.

[Dave]

Yeah, I, A lot of injuries on defense.

[Rico]

Thank you.

[Hank]

I think a lot of interest like the whole team is injured.

[Dan]

Yeah, I think, I actually think it's the Eagles.

[Rico]

I like the Eagles. I think the packers are dark horse.

[Dan]

Yeah, I do too.

[Rico]

Ravens dark horse.

[Dave]

Chargers are playing good. I kind of like the.

[Dan]

No, Chargers are not playing. Chargers are not playing good.

[Rico]

Just got smoked. You don't know what you're talking about. That's one of those idiotic things like you can't.

[Dave]

They lost to the Bucks.

[Dan]

No, you can't say that, Rico, because I put, I put a future on the truck.

[Dave]

I forgot they got smashed by the.

[Rico]

Gruden's lead off shred. He's shredding.

[Dan]

Yeah, yeah. They're. They're 1 and 3 in their last four and their one win was against the Falcons. A game they should have lost.

[Rico]

So. How do you say that there's they're.

[Dan]

Fading as bad as you could fade.

[Rico]

How do you say that? I've never understood your brain. How do you say that?

[Dave]

Blacked out, said things wrong.

[Dan]

You just threw in like it was just.

[Dave]

I thought the Chargers were a deep team in the af.

[Dan]

Do you know what it is?

[Rico]

It's like I think you said they're playing well.

[Dave]

Yeah, yeah. No, I blacked out.

[Dan]

It's like 40 year old Virginia and you get to like the Michael Scott, Steve Carell and he's just like, yeah, tits feel like a bag of sand.

[Dave]

We're like, what that I do bag of sand?

[Dan]

Like, what are you talking about?

[Rico]

You just, like, have this thing where you. You want to contribute and you don't know. It's a befuddling thing. You've had it your whole life. Like, I know it. Just say patently incorrect information. Usually you'll stand by it. Maybe that's an improvement. You're like, yeah, I blacked out. Usually you'll go down a road, like, defending blacked out.

[Dan]

Yeah. But this one, you can't, because I took the Chargers at 40 to 1, like, a month and a half ago, and I've been watching them very closely, and they had been playing bad.

[Dave]

You're right. I blacked out.

[Dan]

Bad football.

[Rico]

This is a new thing. He's blacked out. This is the first time I think you've used that. Yeah, I just blacked out.

[Dan]

Hank had Travis Hunter as well. Congrats, Hank. Did anyone retweet you or anything?

[Dave]

No.

[Hank]

Yeah, someone. We got a couple dms being like, rico haven't seen any.

[Rico]

Any.

[Hank]

I had a big day on Sunday. I hit a couple big parlays, and someone said, I noticed Rico didn't retweet your big day or Dan's big future. That hurts. As a writer, Hank, as a writer.

[Dave]

Don'T you think you should give me the hungry dogs as well? Like it puts them out or like.

[Dan]

He puts them out?

[Hank]

All right, I'll start texting you. But I tweet him every week.

[Dan]

Yeah, he tweets him every week.

[Rico]

I know there's a football show. Are we gonna just pretend Mr. Ice isn't happening?

[Dan]

Oh, I would like to catch a strange. I would like to, because, Dave, I know you're in Florida, so you haven't been betting all of the Mr. Ice. I've just been.

[Rico]

I watch him every night.

[Dan]

He's. He's just been sinking me.

[Rico]

It's just he loses every night.

[Dan]

And the problem is, I don't want him to stop texting me because I love Elio as a friend. And also, he's got to get hot at some point.

[Rico]

I'm going to see if he picks up. I'm going to call him and ask him if Ice Gun's canceled.

[Dan]

He's got Penn State. He's got a Penn State future, which is good. Like. Yeah.

[Rico]

What about the Ice people? No, the people, they don't have Penn State. I don't think maybe they do. I don't. He's probably not gonna pick up. He, like, you want to talk about friendships breaking? This is a fact that I used to talk to him every day. We don't talk anymore. I think he's in such a funk because of this.

[Hank]

Yeah, he's stressed about napkins, and he's.

[Dan]

Only picking, like, two.

[Rico]

All right, Rico, with that laugh. Chill out.

[Dave]

Jesus Christ.

[Rico]

Time on this show, Rico, that laugh was a joke, okay? I mean, come on.

[Dave]

I asked how you were doing to open the show, too. Like, I'm worried about you and you.

[Rico]

Yeah, yeah, you're super worried. I'm sure.

[Dave]

That's why I throw my stick at you.

[Dan]

Oh, man. Did he pick up? No, he's killing us.

[Rico]

But he's, like, clinically depressed.

[Dan]

I mean, Dave, it's one thing if he, like, he's been losing, but it's, like, not. I'd almost rather him. It's. What's the old. Who the. Who the fuck was the player who's like, I'd rather go over 30 than over nine because that means I kept on shooting.

[Rico]

Yeah, I know. I know what the court talking about.

[Dan]

Elio is the opposite.

[Rico]

He, He.

[Dan]

He's lost, and he's like, I'm only going to give two plays a week, and those lose, so he's got no chance of ever getting out of this hole. Like, he's never going to catch.

[Rico]

Oh, did he just call me? I thought he just called me.

[Dan]

By the way, the college football show will be live from Columbus on Saturday night. Going to be great. Going to be great. And then we're going to stream, so we got a crazy schedule. We're gonna do the show in Columbus, and then so Big T and Tate will still are gonna stay here in Chicago, so the stream will start on time with those 2.

[Rico]

Hey, is Icecon canceled? It's not canceled. I just. I can't really function right now. I'm losing. I, I, I'm losing all the time. So I can't even, like, foresee, like, tomorrow, let alone icecon.

[Dan]

Tell him.

[Rico]

All right.

[Dan]

Tell him he's got Penn State. Tell him I said, good luck on Penn State.

[Rico]

I'm picking podcasts, so that couldn't have gone like, I knew that. You could have just been a nice friend. Phone call. I had to be on some content. Yeah, okay.

[Dave]

He's really am.

[Rico]

He didn't know that he is having a miserable time like that. That is something about. He said he can't even function. Like, it's not an ad.

[Dan]

And they're just. They're just never even Close. They're not like it's just one nothing in the second period every single time.

[Dave]

That's what Dave's chirp. He put the parlay out and you're like, yeah, I like this. If it's combined five.

[Rico]

I mean, people are being fair, though. Like, you can't win one, you're gonna win five.

[Dan]

And, and you know what he did in that parlay, the one that he loved? That was the six and a half hit easily. And every other one, whether he adjusted the total, didn't come close.

[Rico]

Yeah, I mean, that, that should be though, to his credit. That should be like the headline for the ice people. He's dying.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Rico]

Like there's no, he's, he literally his right there. He didn't know this was being recorded. He can't function. He can't make it minute to minute right now because he just tried to figure out how to get goals.

[Dan]

Oh, man, poor Elio. I need, I need him to start winning bad. Bad.

[Dave]

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[Dan]

All right, before we get to games, anything, any thoughts on the seating or how. Because we haven't talked since the seating came out. I mean, Penn State has an incredible path.

[Rico]

Incredible.

[Dave]

I think they need to, I was very much on the thing of like, if you win your conference, you should get the top four buys. I've now raised my hand. That's a fuck up. It should be. You get an automatic bid. You have to see these teams 1 to 12. You have to correct. This is very much disparity. It's a, it's a, it's a disaster of a, of a, of a, of.

[Rico]

A. I mean, outside of Penn State and obviously Oregon looks like they got a terrible run as the one seed. I, I, no one else to me has like A layup run, you know, obviously Texas, Clemson at Arizona State. I think Arizona State's good. Outside of Penn State, who got very lucky as a six seed. That was the best seed to be. I, I don't know that I have any complaints, really. You got, you got to win games. Listen, as a national champion, you got to win games.

[Dan]

Got to win games. You got to win games. Okay, let's do the four. Oh, yeah. So Saturday we're going to Columbus. Big T and Tate are staying back. They're going to start the stream. I believe ev, Brandon, Casey and I will be. We're flying right back after the, after the show and we are going to be on the stream for that game. Okay, let's get some games. It's brought to you by DraftKings. DraftKings has special offer. In honor of college football playoffs, head to the DraftKings sportsbook app and opt in. Place $10 or more on any college football playoff parlay of at least plus 400 odds. 100 listeners will have a shot at receiving $1,000 bonus bet for the college football national championship. Go check it out and opt in today on the DraftKings sportsbook app. Go check it out with DraftKings. Okay.

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[Dan]

Let's do the games. Four games this weekend and then we'll. And then we'll. Anyone can throw out their bull card. Bowl season is very tough now with all the doubts, transfers, everything.

[Rico]

It's been like that. Yeah. For a little bit.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Rico]

Even worse now.

[Dave]

But I mean, saving it.

[Dan]

You had Marshall completely. The whole team had to opt out.

[Rico]

We were there. I was at the game when they found out.

[Dan]

Oh, really?

[Rico]

Yeah.

[Dan]

That's crazy. Oh, yeah. You went to Army Navy. That was awesome.

[Rico]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Awesome game. Yeah. I mean, but like, even the bo Probulo one, like, I understand he has to do it, but like that guy was in packages for Penn State. Like they're playing for a national championship and he's not going to be on the team anymore. That's crazy to me. They got to figure it out. They got to get. The easiest fix is get rid of conference championships and start the playoffs the week after Thanksgiving and have the college football national championship be January 1st. Because the fact that it's January 20th makes no sense. Like.

[Rico]

Or just don't let people like.

[Dan]

But they have. They have to transfer. They have to transfer before the spring semester. That's the problem.

[Rico]

Who cares? What's the ones this spring semester? What's the difference between July 20th. Why can't. I mean, January 20th, why can't they. Why can't they transfer then?

[Dan]

Spring semester start. Usually enrollment for spring semester is like the first week of January.

[Rico]

Make an exception. Who cares?

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Rico]

It's not like these kids are picking the schools based on the books.

[Dan]

I agree. I agree. Okay. First game, Indiana. Notre Dame in South bend. Notre Dame's -7 over, under is 52. Rico.

[Dave]

I like the under. I like defenses. In this one, we have a little bit of a slow start with the layoff. I like the under. Under 51.

[Dan]

Okay. Anything on the side you like, either team?

[Dave]

No, I'll be rooting for Notre Dame in this one.

[Rico]

But why? That's crazy.

[Dave]

No, I grew up a Notre Dame fan.

[Dan]

Oh.

[Dave]

We have no team in. It's gotten away from the fandom so much with gambling. But like in New York, you have no college football teams. That was the only team on in the 50s. My grandfather watched it, my dad watched it, I watched it.

[Rico]

So. So what? Wait, what?

[Dave]

In New York, the only team on. And there's no teams around.

[Rico]

It's not like that wasn't your lifestyle, though.

[Dave]

Notre Dame was not my lifestyle, no. But I grew up watching Notre Dame.

[Dan]

Yes, Heritage.

[Rico]

But you. Yeah, but I don't think once on the show you've indicated that the only. If you ask me who's Rico root for Oregon. Quack, quack.

[Dave]

Later in the year.

[Rico]

Yes.

[Dave]

I wrote a very sentimental thing about when my dad bought his house. And then we used to move in together. You can. I'll tweet that thread. You can retweet that thread. But we would go home late at.

[Dan]

Night, maybe our Travis Hunter tickets.

[Dave]

I fell in.

[Rico]

So. So how long?

[Dave]

I fell in love with. With Oregon late in life for.

[Rico]

So. Okay, all right, fine.

[Dave]

You're a Notre Dame fan.

[Rico]

It just took three presidencies for you to mention it. Yep.

[Dan]

Okay, yeah, I'm rooting for.

[Dave]

I don't beat. Yeah, I'm not like. Like Chief. I'm not living and dying anymore with every win or loss. But, yeah, you grew up in Notre Dame, fan, as most people did in New York City.

[Dan]

All right, I'm taking Indiana +7, and.

[Dave]

This is a hard play.

[Rico]

Well, yeah, I hope I'm not falling for the banana tailpipe with Signetti. Obviously they got smoked by Ohio, killed or beat everybody else. Struggle in Michigan. Hope they keep it close one. Shocking, though. It's a tough game, but I'll take the points.

[Dan]

But Notre Dame is kind of like, I agree with everything you just said, Dave, in the fact that, like, we could. We could be walking into just a complete trap where it's like, oh, yeah.

[Rico]

I don't think they're backdooring it, Dan.

[Dan]

No.

[Rico]

I think this is either a rock fight to the end that they can win, or they lose by 30.

[Dan]

Yeah. And the one thing I'll say is, like, Notre Dame, they're kind of similar in that, like, Notre Dame's schedule wasn't exactly Murderers Row. Like, they. Obviously some of the teams that they have scheduled traditionally were down, but like, I don't really. I know army and Navy had great years, but like, let's be honest, like, army, they.

[Dave]

They're nice teams.

[Rico]

Yeah.

[Dave]

They're not elite powers.

[Dan]

Right. And, and, and they beat Texas A and M Week 1, which is a big win, but Texas A and M and up having four losses. So I think it. I think they're. They're a lot more even than. Than people think. Okay, next game. SMU at Penn State. Penn State, eight and a half point favorite over. Under his 54. I'll start with this one. I love Penn State in this game. Penn State minus eight and a half. This is a game that James Franklin will win just because it's not a big game. It is a big game, but it's not like a big boy game. And I just think this is going to be like Penn State pushing around in the trenches. That's. That's the difference. Penn State has the dudes on the lines. So I like Penn State in this game and I think this is. It's going to be very interesting to see, like, how big the home atmospheres actually matter in these games. I think this is a place it does going to be cold. I'll take Penn State minus eight and a half.

[Dave]

Rico, I'm obviously rooting for SMU here outright, but I see everything you're saying. I do Think because I hate State Pen.

[Dan]

Oh.

[Dave]

But I do think it's going to be a blow. I do think it's going to be a blow. Like SMU is not the right side. I think they don't have enough dudes. Franklin with a lot of pressure. I think State Pen unfortunately rolls here. That's why I'll take the over as well. I do think SMU can score a little bit. I'm not gonna. I don't love the eight and a half. I'm rooting for it, but I'm gonna take the over. I think that's a very good play. You saw what they did against Oregon last week. You saw Oregon kind of go over there. Defense, I think SMU can get enough here to get us out of the over.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Rico]

Taking smu. I watched that last game. They fell behind. We're getting dominated by Clemson the first half but really turned around in the second half and the guy doesn't hit a 90 yard field goal. They. They maybe win that game. And I like the quarterback. He's mobile, makes plays. They get weapons on offense. I think they're going to be able to put up points and eights a lot when you can put up points. So I like smu.

[Dan]

Okay. Big one in the afternoon. Clemson at Texas. Can't believe Clemson's in this thing. Texas is 12 point favorites right now. The over under is 52.

[Rico]

Dave, I'll start with you Clemson, but this is an indictment of Texas. I haven't been for, you know, at halftime in the SMU game I was like future on Clemson wouldn't be the craziest thing I've ever seen. And then they went back to the Clemson they've been all season. Kind of got dominated the second half. Blew a big lead. I. I just don't. I'm not sold on Texas, not sold on any of these sec teams. So 12 is a ton. It is not pro. Clemson is anti Texas.

[Dan]

Rico.

[Dave]

I just think it's a lot of points. I'm going to take Clemson. Dabo desperate here. I think they can cover plus 12 in a playoff game. Lot of points. Even going to Texas. I'll take the plus 12.

[Dan]

Okay. I guess I'm going to go reverse here. I'm going to take Texas. I the only. Here's why I'm taking Texas. Clemson was. Was bad when they played anyone good this year. You know, like obviously they only lost by three to South Carolina but they got absolutely smoked by Georgia to start the season. They lost that game to Louisville. Was it Louisville at Home by a million. The rest of their schedule, they, they cakewalk through. And that SMU game, they got off to a really hot, hot start. They had to hold on in the end. And I, I feel like Texas, like, I know Georgia ended up winning, but Texas, Texas should have won that game. It was crazy watching that game. The SEC championship. I think Texas is, is better than maybe we think. And yeah, I'm going to take Texas. I know it's crazy. 12 points a lot, but I just, I think Texas is a better team all around. And Clemson, whenever they've had to step up this year has looked bad. Okay, last game and then we'll do some other picks. Tennessee at Ohio State. Tennessee's plus seven over under 46. There's big talk about Tennessee fans buying a shitload of tickets in Columbus on Saturday. I like Tennessee in this game. Tennessee +7. It's not, it's not like I don't, I don't think Ohio State's dead. Dead. I just think that even a, like a slightly slow start, like a punt, a three and out punt start this game and it gets fucking nervous fast in Columbus because of what happened with the Michigan game. So I'm going to take Tennessee. I think their defense travels. I think they're going to, they're going to rely on their run game. And I just, I, this offensive line for Ohio State is really banged up. I like Tennessee, Dave, taking Ohio State. You are?

[Rico]

Yeah, I, you know, la.

[Dave]

If you.

[Rico]

I, it gets mushed in the head. But not this year when Michigan beat Ohio State. But the year before, I think is when they snuck in the playoffs, the missed field goal against Georgia. And it was kind of like the same vibes, right? Where it's like, oh, they're, they're dead. They lost to Michigan and they came out and they played their best game of the season. I think, I think you're. I think as long as you don't see those winged helmets, their little dicks don't curl into their little stomachs and they don't puke on themselves, they're still one of the more talented teams. I don't think Tennessee is that good. I think it's a bounce back game for Iowa State and maybe there's the beginning of the new culture there where you devalue the Michigan game, right? You, you just, you try to pretend that game doesn't matter and that's what they're going to do here. So I like, I like the Buckeyes.

[Dan]

Okay. Rico?

[Dave]

Yeah. I'm very interested to See how day gets these kids to bounce back from this because like you said, the opportunity, they're very talented. The opportunity is there for them to make a run. They have the talent. The. Also the crazy thing is, you know, they're going to get a shot at Oregon, who they would have had in the Big Ten if they didn't shit down their leg against Michigan. So they were prepared to play Oregon if they can get there in the quarters. That's like, you know, familiarity. They played a, what was it, one point game or a two point game against them. Howard obviously had the, the bad play at the end. But like it's going to be interesting to see how they get off the mat here. I'm going to take Tennessee plus the seven and a half. Just got to think it's going to be a close game and I would like to dance point a little bit of a slow start, you start to panic. But this is a very important game for Ryan Day to see what they can do. I'm interested to see how these kids get off the mat.

[Dan]

Did you see Day that their Ryan Day is already doing the spin zone that like devaluing the game?

[Rico]

Yeah, that's what I said in my just rant. Yeah.

[Dan]

Yeah. There were the. The clip was insane.

[Rico]

Yeah, that's literally what I just said. Yeah, they're. This is the beginning of them devaluing the Michigan game.

[Dan]

Yeah, that's my bad hand up. I was looking at a line trying to make sure I had a pick.

[Rico]

Yeah, of course. I heard it's. They put too much. Yeah, because they're. They're tiny little dicks that curl into their stomachs when they see us coming. The big bad bully. They get nervous. So. Yeah, devalue the game. Woody Hayes puked.

[Dan]

You see me.

[Rico]

Do you see that clip of me running into Urban? Yeah. And you get back. I don't know. It would make a difference. But let me ask you this. If they win the national championship, you still got fired, right? You do Woody Hayes when he's still here. Yeah. This season they're playing. This is. Might as well not even show up.

[Dave]

Season's over.

[Dan]

Crazy that he, that he like, you know, I thought he would just blow by you.

[Rico]

No, no, we. I gave him the business right away.

[Dan]

Well, he also. He personally doesn't have anything to be ashamed of because all he did was beat Michigan.

[Rico]

I know, right?

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Rico]

Back. Back in the day of the horse and buggy.

[Dan]

Okay, you. You guys got any picks?

[Dave]

Well, I got one big bowl thing. Pinstripe bowl. Yeah, 12 years or 14 years. My uncle did security for the teams.

[Dan]

Yes.

[Dave]

He was assigned a team for the week. They lost outright. All of them. He's retired, he's out. He doesn't have a team this week. If he did, it was going to be bc. So maybe the stench still stays with, like, his aura or his replacement. That's why I'm on Nebraska -two and a half. But he does not have security detail this week.

[Hank]

How does it get determined? Of what? Like the projection of what he would have been.

[Rico]

He.

[Dave]

In the text to my cousin, I said, what does he have? He said, I'm going to be home for Christmas or the whole week I retired. But if I did have it, it would be bc.

[Dan]

How. How does he find that out?

[Dave]

I think the new guy. He probably asked the new guy who he got and the new guy got BC Got it.

[Dan]

All right, so I'll take Nebraska as well.

[Dave]

Yeah, I like Nebraska.

[Dan]

I'll make it my mortal.

[Dave]

It's not as. No, it's not as.

[Rico]

Like.

[Dan]

No, I just made it my more. No, no, no, no. All right. I made him immortal.

[Rico]

All right.

[Dave]

If he was still with them, it's whatever. But he had some crazy losses in his day, too.

[Rico]

Jack, Mac, you ready? Here? Everybody get a pen because I got a big board.

[Dan]

Let's go.

[Rico]

Can we do tonight?

[Dan]

Yeah, just release it right. Right now.

[Rico]

JMU minus seven and a half over 50 and a half. Cal plus three against UNLV over 46 and a half. Georgia Southern minus five against Sam Houston. Ohio minus four and a half against Jackson State. Florida minus 13 is Tulane over 49 and a half. Indiana plus seven against Nordame. Already. Give it the. Give me the over in that game as well. No, don't. Don't just. Indiana plus seven. SMU plus eight and a half over 53 and a half. Clemson plus 12 against Texas. Ohio minus seven and a half against Tennessee. UTSA minus nine against Coastal, over 55 and a half.

[Dan]

Half.

[Rico]

Fresno plus three against Northern Illinois. San Jose State minus three and a half against USF over 61 and a half. Toledo Pit over 51 and a half. Rutgers plus seven against Kansas State. Arkansas State. I love Rutgers and bowl games, Shiano. I feel like, you know, cares. Arkansas State plus 7 against Bowling Green. Over 50 and a half. Oklahoma minus 6 against Navy. Vandy plus 3 against Georgia Tech over 51 and a half. Texas Tech plus 1 and a half over 51 and a half against Arkansas. Syracuse minus 11 and a half against Washington State over 59 and a half Kyle Cord McCord Revenge Game is even playing. USC plus 3 and a half against a M over 51 and a half. UNC plus 2 and a half Belichick 54 and a half over BC plus 2 and a half against Nebraska Rico. Louisiana A plus 13 and a half again plus 13 against TCU over 57 and a half. Iowa State plus 3 against Miami over 55 and a half Miami Ohio minus 3 against Colorado State. ECU plus 5 and a half against NC State over 58 and a half. BYU plus 3 against Colorado over 54 and a half. Law Tech plus 17 against Army. Iowa plus 3 against Missouri. Michigan plus 10 and a half against Bama. Washington plus 2 and a half against Louisville. Illinois plus 9 having South Carolina over 47 a half LSU minus 1 against Baylor over 59 and a half. Ole Miss minus 14 half against Duke. Virginia Tech plus 6 and a half against Minnesota. Liberty minus 1 and a half or plus 1 and a half. Excuse me, because Buffalo, Liberty and over. I think it's 57 or 51 and a half. Maybe 57 and a half. That's my board. My mortal is actually going to be BYU plus three against Colorado.

[Dan]

All the starters are playing for Colorado.

[Dave]

Yeah, Colorado. I like Colorado.

[Rico]

I can't imagine BYU's people aren't playing their Mormons.

[Dan]

True, true. That was a hell of a card.

[Dave]

Unbelievable. It's been a while since he bet every game on the board.

[Dan]

All right, wait. Let's do mortals real quick. And then I have. I have two last questions for both Dave and Rico. I'm going to take Nebraska minus two and a half. This is a Rico mortal, so he better not let me down. Hank, I gotta go to Nebraska. Okay, Zupi.

[Hank]

I'll go smu.

[Dan]

Smu. All right, Jack.

[Dave]

Notre Dame.

[Dan]

Notre Dame. Ebo.

[Dave]

I will also take smu.

[Dan]

Smu.

[Rico]

Oh, I like that. I got Tennessee.

[Dan]

Tennessee for Bubba Rico.

[Dave]

South Carolina minus nine and a half. I think South Carolina had a great season. I think they play in this bowl. I think they're motivated. I think they play.

[Dan]

They are playing in this bowl.

[Dave]

South Carolina minus nine and a half.

[Dan]

And Dave, what was your mortal?

[Rico]

It was byu.

[Dan]

Byu. All right, my last two questions then we got to do this. We're going to tell everyone our brackets.

[Dave]

First one card as well.

[Dan]

Oh yeah, Give us your card.

[Dave]

All right, real quick. Ohio minus five, Jack Pitt. Toledo over 51. Kansas State minus seven. Arc State, Bowling Green over 50 and a half. Nebraska minus two and a half. Colorado minus three and South Carolina minus nine and a half.

[Dan]

Dave, I know this story was a couple weeks old, but Bill Belichick, obviously to unc. I'm not going to ask you how you think it's going to go, because I assume you think it's going to go well. You are in the nil game. You're talking to a recruit, and the recruit says, yeah, I'm between Michigan and North Carolina. What do you say?

[Rico]

What would I say that I'd be.

[Dan]

I mean, are you going to negatively.

[Dave]

Recruit against Bill Belichick?

[Rico]

Yes, I would negatively recruit against Belichick. I'd be like, you're not going to be able to use social media.

[Dan]

He's old.

[Rico]

You're not going to be able to talk to the media. Like, you're not going to build your social brand. It's all about the team. And you may. You may win some games, but you are. You're not going to have no fun doing it.

[Dan]

Yeah. Okay. And then, Rico, your guy, Gottlieb, bro, he can't.

[Dave]

I mean, I'm like, I'm not. I'm not even coming for his neck anymore. And it goes to show you, he just.

[Rico]

Well, you said it's Christmas.

[Dave]

Yeah. Okay. I could say. I mean, that's a light jab. That's a friendly jab.

[Rico]

That's a pretty heavy jab, but go.

[Dave]

All right. But he can't get his foot out of his own mouth. He's putting up calendars that he takes off in December. He's nuts, dude. He just can't. Like, he's still doing his radio show. He can't get out of his own way. It's gonna. It's gonna bomb out after a year.

[Dan]

Did you see any fight?

[Dave]

He fought so hard to get a job for a year for a coaching job, finally get a head coaching job. It's just gonna bomb out after a year. Like he's. He's a clown.

[Dan]

Did you see that? Did you see the meme he put up? Dave, who got leave.

[Rico]

No.

[Dan]

So he put up a meme. Like, it was like the first or second day of December, and it was like, December's here. And it was like third through, through seventh. Pretend to work like 12 through 18. Like, get drunk and don't even pretend to work. And he put this up. He hasn't won a game in December.

[Rico]

I. I mean, I. I obviously saw what he did today that he doesn't want to play nobody. You. And then Michigan Tech beat him.

[Dan]

Yeah. 72, 7.

[Rico]

Crazy.

[Dan]

Brutal. Brutal. All right.

[Dave]

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[Dan]

Okay, I'll do my bracket first. I have Tennessee beating Ohio State, Texas beating Clemson, Notre Dame beating Indiana, Penn State beating smu. So that is. My quarterfinal would be Oregon over Tennessee, Arizona State over Texas, Notre Dame over Georgia, and Penn State over Boise. And then my final four is Oregon over Arizona State, Penn State over Notre Dame, Big Ten final, Oregon, Penn State, Oregon wins the whole thing.

[Rico]

Rematch. All right, I got. I got Ohio beating Tennessee, I got Texas beating Clemson, Penn State beating smu, Notre Dame beating Indiana, Notre Dame beating Georgia, Penn State beating Boise. I agree with Dan. Arizona State being Texas, Ohio beating Oregon, then Ohio State being Arizona State in the semis, Notre Dame beating Penn State. You got an Ohio State, Notre Dame final, and then Ohio State winning the national championship and the national championship that nobody cares about in the most. Defeating national champions. Sad, pathetic little national championship we've ever had.

[Dan]

Oh, I love it. I love it, Rico.

[Dave]

All right, my bracket. Ohio State takes down Tennessee, Texas takes down Clemson. I would take SMU in the upset over State, Penn. I'll take Notre Dame into the quarters. Oregon beats Ohio State, Texas beats Arizona State. It's a little chalky here. I'm going to take Boise over SMU and Georgia over Notre Dame, which sets up a final four of Oregon over Texas and Georgia over Boise. Championship game, Oregon over Ryan Whitney's Georgia Bulldogs. Oregon national champions finally get through the cracks here and hang a banner.

[Dan]

Quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack. All right, boys, I think we'll do one more of these after. We'll do one more before the semifinals because then we can crown who actually has won the Pat Hill, and we'll preview the semifinals.

[Dave]

Well, I guess.

[Dan]

Yeah, I guess it could be a competition. That'd be great if we have to do a national championship show. That'd be awesome. Yeah, I would love that. I would love that if you. If Dave close. Oh, man, I'm rooting for you hard, Dave.

[Rico]

Just gotta get fucking red hot.

[Dan]

I might just put all your picks into one parlay. All right, boys, we'll see you. Thanks, everyone.

[Dave]

Happy Hanukkah Merry Christmas.