2024 Barstool Pick Em Week 10

Summary

Barstool Pick Em – Week 10 (October 31, 2024)

Hosts: Big Cat, Rico Bosco
Guest: Stanford Steve (filling in for Dave Portnoy)
Theme:
A rowdy, fast-paced dive into the Week 10 college football betting landscape, featuring laughs, memorable tangents, and surprisingly sharp football analysis. With Pres (Dave) out, Stanford Steve joins Big Cat and Rico to break down CFB's biggest storylines, best bets, and a couple of hard-won lessons about life as a degenerate gambler.

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1. Main Theme & Purpose

The episode brings in ESPN’s Stanford Steve to cover for Dave, blending signature Barstool banter with smart (and not-so-smart) college football picks, betting narratives, and a rare chance for Rico to talk hoops. Week 10’s major CFB games, playoff expansion, Heisman odds, and the painful realities of gambling streaks all get the Barstool treatment.

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2. Key Discussion Points & Insights

A. Kicking Off with Stanford Steve (01:22)

• Stanford Steve joins as a special guest. Banter about Bosco tirelessly asking Steve to guest on his shows.
  • “I always thought Pick Em was a joke because I know that’s your guys’ thing...” (01:43, Steve)
  • Joking about the show’s pecking order and recurring guests.

B. How Bad Are the Picks? Leaderboard Talk (02:44)

• Big Cat, Rico, and Dave’s season record update (Big Cat: 46.9%, Rico: 52.2%, Dave: 46.7%).
• Ebo is crushing “mortal locks” (7-2); Bosco is aiming for his first “Pat Hill” trophy.
• Conference USA weekday games = lots of lost money and self-loathing.
  • “Conference USA losses: $100,000. Why am I poor?...Yes, you do [have to bet every game].” (03:38, Big Cat)

C. Big Picture: 12-Team College Football Playoff (05:20)

• Panel reacts positively to the expanded playoff.
• Stanford Steve: >20 teams can now make the playoff; “Hope” is back for more fanbases (07:30).
• Parity and upsets possible due to NIL and transfer portal; more meaningful regular-season games.
• Memorable Quote:
  • “If you’re watching Oregon vs. Ohio State and thinking, ‘Well, this doesn’t matter...’ You’re a loser.” (08:16, Big Cat)
• Old worries about diminishing the regular season “haven’t happened.”

D. Debates: Best Teams, Real Contenders, & Key Games (11:08+)

• Notre Dame vs. Indiana: Consensus: ND has the better defense, Indiana has more belief.
• Alabama vs. Miami:
  • “Alabama’s defense is getting better and better... Milroe’s the ultimate wildcard.” (14:54, Steve)
  • Miami is talented but inconsistent; Clemson’s quiet dominance gets praise.
• Tennessee vs. Clemson:
  • Steve favors Tennessee’s improvement and defense; Big Cat sees Clemson as steadier now.

Fun Back-and-Forth:
- “I've seen it with Nico. When it’s bad, it’s really, really bad...” (16:01, Big Cat)
- Steve: “I’m in the tank for Nico... This is his eighth start.” (16:20)

E. How Many Can Really Win the Title? (18:43)

• Run through conferences, listing which teams “can win it” versus just “make it.”
  • Oregon, Georgia, Penn State, Ohio State, Texas all get “yes.”
  • Big 12: “Not the deepest, [but] the widest conference.” (21:02, Steve quoting Reese)
  • ACC tiebreaker mess and schedule shenanigans discussed.

F. Heisman Odds and Arguments (23:10)

• Big Cat: Biased, holds a Travis Hunter 40-1 ticket, argues Hunter is the Heisman.
• Stanford Steve: Thinks Shedeur Sanders is more valuable; “first guy ever” to win conference O & D player of the week (24:15).
  • “I'm not a fan of how many people and who vote on [Heisman]. The freshness of the Travis Hunter story is on your side.” (24:16, Steve)
• Both agree voter opinions and shifting narratives matter more than ever.

G. Wisconsin Badgers Check-In (28:16)

• Stanford Steve praises Luke Fickell’s toughness; Big Cat calls Badgers “better than last year” but with a tougher schedule.
  • “You had a winnable game in the second half… You’re on the up and up.” (29:24, Steve)

H. Uniform Talk & CFB Aesthetics (32:51)

• Penn State vs. USC as an “all-time uniform game” (32:51, Steve)—draws nostalgia and Twitter photo deep dives from Big Cat.

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3. Game-by-Game Handicapping (33:29–55:03)

Ohio State vs. Penn State (33:29)

• Fretting over the spread (3.5–4) and OSU’s offensive line injuries.
• Panel split:
  • Big Cat & Steve: Penn State +3.5 (predict a field goal game)
  • Rico: Lays 3.5 with OSU for home pressure and QB edge.
• “I think Franklin... he owns Franklin. I don’t love that it’s a noon kick instead of a nighttime.” (36:20, Rico)

Oregon vs. Michigan (38:32)

• Oregon -15, total 45, wild stat: biggest Michigan home underdog spread since 1978 (39:24, Steve).
• All like the under (“Michigan's offense is just that bad,” 41:00, Rico); consensus Oregon will roll.

Florida vs. Georgia “Cocktail Party” (41:29)

• Total agreement: Under 52.5 is the play.
• Florida “not as bad as people think” but too inexperienced at QB to seriously upset.
• Georgia’s offense hasn’t clicked; Florida remains a year away.

Texas A&M at South Carolina (45:14)

• Opinions split:
  • Big Cat & Steve: Like South Carolina as home dog, riding the home-night cover trend.
  • Rico: Sides with Texas A&M, citing faith in Mike Elko as a coach.

Pitt at SMU (47:41)

• Steve: Pitt + points. Loves Narduzzi's defensive edge and new OC.
• Rico: Over 58.5—expects a “weird” high-scoring affair.
• Big Cat: SMU to cover, but pivots to join Rico on the over.

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4. College Basketball Detour (50:06)

• Early buzz for Alabama and UConn; Stanford Steve tells practice stories and praises open-door programs.
• Big Cat offers classic nostalgia: “Bob Knight was supposed to be Wisconsin’s head coach... history could have been different.” (52:21)

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5. Best Bets / Closing Cards (55:17)

Notable "Mortal Locks"

• Big Cat: Penn State +3.5
• Rico: Oregon -15 (thinks they win by 21)
• Stanford Steve: Texas A&M -2.5
• Ebo: Florida +16.5
• Bubba: Miami -21 vs. Duke
• Dan: Minnesota -3

Other Picks:

• Memphis -7.5, Navy -10.5, Louisville/Clemson over 61.5, Army/Air Force over 41.5, Michigan State +7.5, and more.

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6. Notable Quotes & Moments

• Accidentally Good Takes:

  • “I accidentally landed on the correct take... being a proponent of the 12 team playoff... it was NIL and the portal that made college football more fun.” (06:16, Big Cat)

• Classic Barstool Self-Awareness:

  • “Why am I poor? Conference USA losses: $100,000. Yes, you do have to bet every game.” (03:38, Big Cat)

• Heisman Hopes:

  • “He's the O’Shanti of college football. What he's doing, I don't know if we'll ever see it again.” (24:51, Big Cat on Travis Hunter)

• Banter:

  • “If you're someone who watches Oregon vs. Ohio State and says, this doesn't matter, you're a loser.” (08:16, Big Cat)

• On picking games:

  • “I hate doing it, but I like the under…” (39:13, Big Cat re: Oregon/Michigan)

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7. Fun Side Characters & Running Jokes

• Hank barely “in the room,” more focused on golf/sim than CFB.
• Bosco’s lack of “big college football game” experience is roasted.
• Stanford Steve's stories about wing stops, gambling, and old wrestling tapes.
• Ongoing barbs about Rico’s show invites and betting record.

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8. Timestamps for Major Segments

• Stanford Steve Joins the Show: 01:22
• Leaderboard and Bad Beats Stories: 02:44
• 12-Team Playoff Debate: 05:20–09:06
• Who Can Win? Tier List: 18:43–21:22
• Heisman Odds Talk: 23:10–27:20
• Wisconsin Badgers Update: 28:16–32:07
• Uniform Nostalgia: 32:51–33:28
• Ohio State vs. Penn State Deep Dive: 33:29–38:32
• Oregon vs. Michigan: 38:32–41:29
• Florida vs. Georgia: 41:29–45:03
• Texas A&M at South Carolina: 45:14–47:37
• Pitt at SMU: 47:41–49:45
• College Basketball Cameo: 50:06–52:43
• Cards & Mortal Picks: 55:17–End

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9. Tone & Language

• Informal, irreverent, and highly self-aware—insider gambling jokes, quick banter, and a lot of good-natured ribbing. Facts delivered with a wink; opinions blend confidence and self-parody.

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Summary:

Barstool Pick Em Week 10 delivers lively insight and CFB gambling tips, mixing expertise, laughter, and real honesty about bad streaks and the sport’s chaotic nature. The panel loves the 12-team playoff, is torn on Heisman favorites, and likes Penn State and Oregon this week—but agrees, never forget to bet the Over.

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Rule #1 of Gambling:
“Always bet the Over.”
Rule #2:
“If a mascot dies the week of a big game, it’s an automatic mortal lock.”

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[B]

Pick them Week 10 Dave is out this week we have a very special guest, our good, good friend Stanford Steve to come on talk some ball. Steve, thank you for joining us. A little birdie told me that the guy next to me, Bosco, was trying to book you for some other stuff and have you not been. Have you not been going on Bosco?

[D]

And one I've been asked by that guy a ton whether it's lifelines pick them. I always thought the picket was a joke because I know that's your guys thing and I didn't hear from you. So like you know there's a pecking order where you guys are, you know, we know where Rico is in the pecking order at that.

[A]

Down in the order. Down in the order like a glaciers. Yes.

[B]

Yeah. Double, double lead off.

[A]

Exactly. Yeah.

[B]

I texted Steve and I was like hey, Dave's out this week. Can you, can you come on pick him? It'd Be really fun. And he's like, absolutely. He's like. It's even better because Bosco's been asking me to come on all his stuff, and I've just not.

[D]

We all.

[A]

I haven't booked ever.

[B]

It's.

[D]

You're.

[A]

I'm telling you right now, you're gonna be booked again for Bosco in one or a healthy debate.

[D]

Either way.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

March. You always do. Conference Championship Week.

[B]

You always.

[A]

He always.

[B]

Does he always.

[A]

I have him by the bowl. It's the best. I have him by the balls. It's my best interview.

[B]

Him and Ross.

[A]

No, just.

[D]

Just Steve. Easy.

[A]

Exactly.

[D]

You don't like him either. That's your show. That's your show. I can't make it on Dan.

[B]

Yeah, you can. All right.

[D]

So, Steve, how are the picks going?

[B]

Bad.

[A]

I'm in the leaderboard.

[D]

Really?

[A]

I'm looking at a trophy.

[B]

Potentially, I can't.

[A]

But college basketball starts in a week, so that's when we go like this.

[B]

So I'm 46.9%, Bosco's 52.2%, Dave is 46.7%. So Bosco's. He's got the Pat Hill in his sights right now. First ever. He's never won a Pat Hill. He is set. Ebo is seven and two in mortals. Then Bosco is four and four and one in mortals. The second Ebo kind of has mortals locked up. He has Bob Diako locked up. Steve, I can't win a weekday game to save my life. This Conference usa. If I, like, looked at it, it's like the old drill tweet. Like, can someone help me with my budget? It's like rent a thousand dollars, food a thousand dollars, clothes, like a thousand dollars. Conference USA losses. A hundred thousand dollars. Why am I poor? That's what's happening with the Conference USA and me. So I don't know. Have you been betting Conference usa? Because this is a. A long time thing between us where you tell me I don't have to bet every game, and I say to you. Yes, you do.

[D]

Yeah. That you and Dave jumped on me a while ago about that one. I forgot where we were at.

[B]

I know, exactly.

[D]

It was a big event. It was a big event.

[B]

No, we were super bowl or. No, no. It was at the Tornado Room in Madison. You came out to dinner with us.

[D]

That's right.

[B]

The. The Tornado Room, which is a great place.

[D]

Has I got laughed out of that room?

[B]

Yeah. Has not. Great Wi Fi. So I kept on standing up to go get scores for me and Dave. And, like, stand in the alley behind it. And. And Steve just turned to. To me and Dave, he's like, you guys know you don't have to bet every game. And we just both at the same time looked at me like, yes, you do. What are you talking about?

[D]

Thing to say when those guys are paying for the meal, too. Felt bad. Yeah, really bad.

[B]

But have you been betting any of the weekday?

[D]

I've dabbled a little bit. Been our, like, you know, three games last night. Looked Sam Houston State fell a little fishy. Did you see the ending of that game?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

By the way. Yeah, that. That would have been cataclysmic for the other team. Backers had Kennesaw against Liberty last week, but no, not. I'm not diving in every single game, so I'm guessing this comes out later, but coach Rich Rod is very interesting this week.

[B]

Oh, is he playing tonight?

[D]

Liberty?

[B]

I believe Liberty is. They're playing Liberty tonight. Oh, okay. Put it on my card. There you go. Cz. Is that. I'm back.

[D]

There you go.

[B]

I'm back. Okay, let's. Before we do the games this week, I want to talk. You have some big picture stuff. So let's start with you. You got big picture stuff. Throw it at us and we'll. We'll chop it up on some college football.

[D]

All right. Are you guys. Where were you before the announcement of 12 and now where are you? Has it changed?

[A]

No, I love it. Excitement. A level is beyond. Because I think you get games now like Alabama, LSU already was a big game.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's a knockout game this week.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We didn't think it was gonna be a knockout with the. Both have two losses, but that's a knockout game. Notre Dame is playing by the skin of their balls. Even though being a top 10 team like, you got a lot of these teams, these games mean more, these regular season games mean more, and the playoff is going to be that much better.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I also am a big proponent. I'm a big. Like, when is the game on? They nailed the schedule this year. Nailed it.

[B]

What do you mean?

[A]

You get a weekend before Christmas, you get New Year's Eve into the New Year's Day, and then you get Thursday, Friday into wild card weekend, championship game. Martin Luther.

[B]

They nailed the schedule, Steve.

[D]

I believe my schedule is. My first weekend off is the weekend after the Super Bowl.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

So. Yeah, you're everywhere.

[B]

You're everywhere, Steve. Hey, it's football season.

[A]

You don't get a day off.

[B]

You learn no days off. I accidentally landed on the Correct take. And I mean that by, I was always a proponent of the 12 team playoffs. I never wavered from that. I said more games, more fun, everything. I think I accidentally landed on the correct take because with the transfer portal in nil, the parody in the college football is a lot better. It's flattened a little bit where teams can, you know, you have a Vanderbilt beating in Alabama, you have a bunch of teams in that group of maybe 3 to 10 that are all pretty good and you don't know what's going to happen. So if it, if it had been a 12 team playoff pre nil, pre transfer portal, we're talking like you know, five, 10 years ago, I think I would have been wrong because that would have been the days of there's Alabama, there's Georgia, there's Ohio State and no one else can win. I think there are like six or seven teams now that can win and I think there's going to be very competitive college football playoff games. So I accidentally got on the right side of history being a proponent of the 12 team playoff, not realizing that it was actually the nil in the port in the portal that has made college football more fun and exciting this year.

[D]

Okay, what do you think? Yeah, I like, I mean there's over 20 teams that can make it guys. Yeah, like that. You know, it's, I think coach Saban said at the beginning of hope, you know, you don't try and you know, build your team on hope, but your fan base wants hope. And I think the way it went last, you know, the last decade with, with the SEC dominance, a lot of teams started out with not hope and now they have it. So the, the interest level is crazy. I, I, I look at all the people that said regular season was be going to be taken away from. That hasn't happened yet. Now it still could, it could. And you know, even looking at conference championship games, but there's still going to be plenty, plenty to play for. So I got some questions for you guys as far as team one follow up.

[B]

One follow up on that. I never understood the regular season will be meaningless crowd in that I get it. There was, you know, in the olden days if you lose a game, it's your season's over. But if you are someone who watches Oregon vs Ohio State or Texas A&M vs LSU and you're watching these exciting games, these great games, maybe not Texas A and MLSU because it got away from them in the second half, but exciting, great college football games, big time atmospheres and you're sitting to yourself being like, well, this doesn't matter. You're a loser. Like, I there wasn't any second of the Oregon Ohio State game where I was like, well, this doesn't matter because they're just going to play again in the Big Ten. It didn't. It was a great football game. It was a perfect college. Like, that game was exactly what I close my eyes and envision when I think of college football.

[A]

Also, nothing's a guarantee. Like, Ohio State could lose to State Pen this week and they're not in that, that rematch that you thought was locked up.

[D]

Yeah, not locked up.

[B]

It's a great point. It's great point.

[D]

Yeah, it's. I mean, you got Indiana waiting in the wings there. Yeah, I know. Ohio State's going Rico's favorite place this week. Rico, what's the, what's the last biggest. Have you ever been to a big college football game or like, like Monmouth Fairfield doesn't count?

[A]

No, I've been to. I went to a bachelor party at Ann Arbor. Been to some Notre Dame.

[D]

Talking about like a big. No, no, no sec. No, no.

[B]

We got to get you to.

[D]

I know you guys out the Ohio State Austin game at Austin. Like, yeah, it had been a while since I was there. I played there. It's like these Ohio State people were coming in trying to say it was going to be 60, 40 in the stadium. Like, you're out of your mind. This isn't, no offense Purdue. Like, you can't just ransack a stadium. I know you have the biggest fan base, but it was awesome. I do think that helps them as we look.

[B]

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[D]

Yes, I can.

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[B]

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[D]

Indiana or Notre Dame?

[B]

I think this is going to be tough. Well, Indiana with Rourke. Indiana with Rourke. That, that I should throw that out there. He was playing out of his mind. I don't know. I think Indiana like the. You talk about belief and hope. That team feels like they're just riding a wave right now, that they have the confidence that is just out of this world and it can do that. Confidence can do things for you in college football. And as good as Notre Dame's defense is, if I, if you had to, if you said pick a unit of those two teams, it's Notre Dame's defense. New names. Defense is, is, is awesome. Lights out. They got pros everywhere. I don't know if I trust Riley Leonard in big time throwing situations. I think they've, they've been in some games recently, especially the Navy game where, where Navy was turning the ball over a lot. The Purdue game where they could just run the ball down your throat. What happens when Notre Dame gets in a game where they can't run the ball down your throat and now you're in a third and long and Riley Leonard has to make the right decision, the right pass. Don't feel as confident about that. Feel more confident in Curtis Rourke making that.

[D]

Okay, Rico. Alabama or Miami?

[B]

Hold on. Is it on? Wait, Are you going to tell me what your thought was Good? Yeah. You're good. Okay. No, but I want to hear what you say after.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

I, I agree with you. Being there with Indiana, it's, it's real.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And I'm dying. Like we were there last week and I'm like, anytime I hear a quarterback with thumb surgery, you're out like months. So what I'm thinking is maybe like he got his nail ripped off or something. Like that's why, like I watch. Go back, watch the tape. He can't throw the ball. Like he's slingshotting the football. And then the Hail Mary before the end of the first half, he lines up and he throws it like 30, 35 yards.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

So they said he started throwing last week. They're, they're, they're so efficient with him. Their skill guys are way better than you think.

[B]

Yep.

[D]

The problem is, even with losing Morrison at corner, Notre Dame's defense is one of my favorite units in, in the country. Like, we've gone back and forth on the show and I, I've said that since I watched him in person at A and M. So I would tend to agree with you right now. Although they are in a very, very tricky spot this week. Is Rico's mic working?

[A]

I think it is now.

[B]

Yeah. I like that answer. I, yeah, no, I, I will, I will stick with like Indiana. Better team. Notre Dame. Their defense, Their defense can keep them in any game.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Aside from A M, Notre Dame's wins are not that impressive.

[B]

Well, Indiana hasn't really. You can't say Indiana's.

[A]

No, Indiana hasn't played a murders row either.

[B]

But we'll see the Michigan State game. This is going to be a very interesting spot for them at East Lansing. I think Michigan State is one of those teams that teams can overlook and they've had a little bit of spark here and there. I lost.

[D]

Johnson knows about that. Don't overlook Sparty.

[B]

What was that for? What year? I'm just. What year? Throw a year out there. The year that we lost on a Hail Mary and then, and then beat him in the Big Ten championship game. Okay.

[A]

It's like a Rolodex.

[B]

I mean, well, there is the year that you remember the fuck. What was it? Was it, oh, five when Wisconsin started undefeated and then they, we had fourth and goal. I think we're down 14, seven to Michigan State in East Lansing and we didn't run the ball with Matt Bernstein and we should have. And we got stuffed and then we lost like 49, 14 and then lost like every game after that. So.

[D]

Yeah, Dan, no young Dan, no gray hair.

[B]

That was bad. That was a bad one. That one haunts me.

[A]

I think for your question, Alabama, Miami. I hate to say it, I think I'm going Alabama just because of Miami's conference and how weak that is. They're going to get a spot. Like they're going to be there with Clemson potentially at the end, but what's Miami hanging its hat on? Florida? I think Alabama is a little bit better and I don't love Alabama's defense, but I think Alabama is a little bit better of a team.

[D]

Alabama's defense is getting better and better, man. Yeah, they, they, they really are. And you know Milrose, the ultimate wild card, I've heard. And he is watching him in person, like being there for the first half of that Georgia game, it's like, why don't they do this all the time? And then the second half, they didn't do it. You agree with that, Dan?

[B]

I, I probably agree with that. Miami, to me, I think it's very weird. Miami, obviously, Cam Ward in the Heisman conversation, he's electric. He can get them out of a lot of bad spots. Been in some bad spots. I think it's, it's. The ACC is fascinating because Clemson almost like that, it was almost perfect that they lost week one because everyone got off the scent and they've just been handling business ever since.

[D]

And speaking of, I think anyone.

[B]

Yeah, they haven't beaten anyone, but they also. I give credit to teams when they, when they blow out other teams.

[D]

I think Clemson might, they know what the number is every week.

[B]

Yeah, I think Clemson's better than Miami.

[D]

Okay, last one. Both of you. Tennessee or Clemson?

[B]

I'll go Clemson.

[A]

I say Clemson as well.

[B]

I love Tennessee.

[D]

I go Tennessee.

[B]

You, you like? I mean their defensive line is great. Offense though, I don't know if I try. I've seen it with Nico. It, it's bad. When it's, when it's bad, it's really, really bad. And if you're in a big time game, I think I would take Club Nick over Nico right now. I mean, I don't think that's a hot take. Ooh, you, you think, you think that's a hot take?

[D]

I'm in, I'm in the tank for Nico. I still, I go back and look what's this eighth start?

[B]

Agreed.

[D]

Like, I like. I think it's just going to keep going up. And when you go back like being there for the Oklahoma game, you know they throw that, you know, I don't want to get too between the weeds, but they throw that. You know, the odd front, the three man front where they played a three three and have everybody back in, but you got to have good guys. Oklahoma had that. Then you see Arkansas kind of mirror that. Then you see Florida kind of mirror that. It's been a process for him where he's, you know, getting all, you know, he's, he's, he's avoiding all these shots and they still been able to run the ball. Their defense is very, very good. And I go back to that Bama game. Like if you told me Tennessee was going to score 24 points, I would have said Bama wins. That game and they did it and it was because of, of Tennessee's defense. So I think they're a wild card here. Obviously a monster matchup going down to Athens in a couple of weeks. But I, I think they're, they're still going to be, they're going to be a tough out.

[B]

Yeah, I do love their defense. I just, and I'm not selling on Nico long term. I'm just talking this year, if you put him in a big time game, I, I, I have my concerns because I've seen it now and it's, it's, you know, he puts up a hundred, you know, points against Kent State, but then he looks like he's never seen a defense when he plays Arkansas, so, so I'm a little, I, I'm a little skittish on him. Whereas Club Nick has, he's been in some big games. Obviously the, the first week wasn't, wasn't great at all. It was actually horrendous. But yeah, I think Clemson, Clemson's a little bit, they're kind of laying in the weeds. They don't have any big games, do they, Clemson?

[D]

No, they go to pit and what.

[B]

All right, what are your thoughts on.

[D]

No, they got South Carolina. They gotta play South Carolina.

[B]

Oh, yeah, that's right. Last week of the season. That's gonna be a tough one. Do you, can you give a question to Hank?

[D]

Yeah. Hank.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

What's your favorite college football game this year?

[B]

This year?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

There's a lot to pick from. I liked what was just wondering when.

[D]

Hank taps out and just goes all in on Celtics, that's all.

[B]

Oh, it's already happened. Yeah, it's already happened. Yeah, it happened before.

[D]

So it's got to be from week seven prior.

[B]

No, but I don't even know. But that's golf season, so there might have only been a window. What was the Illinois game where they came back and it went into Purdue.

[D]

Illinois.

[B]

Purdue is my favorite. That's a good answer.

[D]

That's why we go to Hank.

[B]

Yeah. It was going nuts. I enjoyed that. Yeah.

[A]

I got a question for Steve.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

I didn't know Hank was here. I'm sorry. I thought he was in a meeting, like a suits meeting.

[A]

You said 20 teams can make the playoff. How many teams can win it?

[B]

Oh, good question, Bosco.

[D]

Wow.

[B]

Good question, Dan.

[D]

I thought we were ganging up on him.

[B]

Yeah, but he just hit us with a good question. I'm going to look right now too. Let's go down it.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Oregon.

[D]

Oregon, yes. Georgia. Yes. Penn State's. A yes to me.

[B]

Yeah, they're yes to me as well. Ohio State this week.

[D]

Miami's.

[B]

Texas is a yes.

[D]

Tennessee is a yes for me. Not for you.

[B]

Not for me.

[D]

I don't think Notre dame is no.

[B]

BYU's not text items a yes for me.

[D]

I'll wait a week on them.

[B]

Okay. Yeah. Because this is a tough one.

[A]

I think Clemson's a yes.

[B]

Clemson, I don't know.

[D]

I'm not there with Clemson.

[B]

And they got. If they got to play Georgia again.

[D]

That goes back to our feelings on Tennessee and Clemson right there.

[B]

Yeah. Alabama, Indiana, Boise, Indiana. I got to see. I got to see what it looks like against Ohio State if they keep it. If they, if they give Ohio State a run. I think Indiana can. Can. Yes. I'll be. I'll be fully. I think Indiana. I think Indiana is very, very good. I just got to see it against one really elite team because they have not played. It's no offense. Indiana, they've had an incredible season. Very good. They have not played an elite team yet.

[D]

Okay, here's one for you. Lsu.

[B]

I don't think so. That was bad, that second half. Nussmeier, I've never seen him like that. Where he, he was. He. He looked like he was going to cry. He looked like he was going to cry when he was playing Texas A and M last week.

[D]

Because I think they could win it. I don't know if they're going to make the playoff.

[B]

Yeah, they got to beat Alabama. You know, I'd put him in the. Could win it depending on the draw. Yeah, they could win it depending on the draw. And then what about. What about anyone from the Big 12?

[A]

Well, that's the other thing you said, too. Like. No, what he talked about the.

[D]

Like, I got Colorado winning that. So.

[B]

Okay, so I'm all in.

[A]

The Big 12 might not be the most compelling conference and they're not. They're probably not going to win a championship, any of those teams, but the Big 12 is a true race here down the stretch.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

You got some big games coming down with the Big 12.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

Reese nailed it at the beginning of the season. He said it's not the deepest conference, it's the widest.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

Where you just have so many options. And we're going to see that play down the. The ACC too. Like this idea of the three teams finishing unbeaten and then it's going to go to conference opponents win percentage.

[B]

I know, that's terrible.

[D]

It's all horrible. Like right now, somebody did the Thing. Clemson's is the highest at like 46%. And then Miami's 42. And then SMU's is like 36.

[B]

Yeah, like, it's bad, I'd say.

[D]

Oh, so we had like 10 or 11.

[B]

That was like. That was like eight or nine. It was more like eight or nine.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

The. The Big Ten has the same thing where I believe if Penn State beats Ohio State or no, Ohio State beats Penn State and Indiana beats Ohio State.

[D]

I can't remember the second spot.

[B]

Yeah, I can't remember what. How it works out or if, like, Oregon catches a loss. They would be. They would be in trouble because their strength of schedule is not the best in conference. It's basically if you played Purdue, you're. You're. You're screwed because. Because they. They have been so bad.

[A]

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[B]

All right, so Heisman. Yeah, I'm biased.

[A]

Very biased.

[B]

I'm very biased.

[A]

Rightfully so.

[D]

You have Travis on it, right?

[B]

40 to 1.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

I think he's the Heisman.

[D]

Okay. I disagree.

[B]

Okay. Why?

[D]

I think Shador is more valuable to that team.

[B]

Okay. So.

[D]

And he's been my long shot. Two weeks ago. I think it's 80 or 100 to 1. I got bet them to win the conference, did not bet them to make the playoff because they already have two losses and you know, they got a better chance of winning the conference, in my opinion. I look at what Chador has done. It stuck out to me the first couple games. His arm strength is so improved. You know, everybody talks about Caleb Williams playing amongst chaos last year. Sher has done it for. I think he's done it better because he stays on track. His receivers are great. I understand what Travis has done this week. I thought I saw it announced. He's the first guy ever to win conference player of the week on offense and defense in the same season. But I, I am wary. I think the majority is with you, Dan.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

I believe people, I'm not a fan of, of how many people and who vote on the award. That's another thing I think you got to factor in where the freshness of a Travis Hunter story is on your side. So, yeah, I think you got a winner.

[B]

I don't know. He's got to still play. He's still got to play, but he, he's doing something no one's ever done before. That's my whole point. And that was why I bet on him, because it was like, if he plays the whole season, we will walk away from this season. And I know Genti has been incredible and I know Cam Ward is lingering and so is Dylan Gabriel, but he's.

[A]

The Oshanti of college football.

[B]

Yeah, he's the o' Shanti of college football. He's what he's doing. I don't know if we'll ever see it again. Like he is five cornerback. Yeah.

[D]

The storylines are there for you. The reason I bet Shador too is they're going to be favored in every. This was going back before the Cincinnati game or even the one before that that they rolled. Yeah. Ucf, they're going to be favored in every single game. And I believe he's going to put up monster numbers and it's, it's, it's going to be really interesting.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

To see like I, I'm, I, I bet Shador because I see them winning that and I see other teams falling off and them getting in the Big 12 title game. The problem with Hunter is like the wins and losses matter and the like stat lines matter. Like does he have to get to a certain amount of touchdowns? Does he have to play at a certain amount of snaps? Like it feel like he's already beaten all that and he's way ahead of the curve on other guys as far as that goes. So I'm not sure if wins and losses play in the Travis Hunter. And obviously they're going to take votes away from each other right here. You and I disagree, but I think you're going to win. The.

[B]

My calculation on taking Travis Hunter before the season was I thought if Colorado could get to seven or eight wins, I think that would be enough. And we saw the precedent last year with Jaden Daniels where that wasn't a playoff team. What was LSU last year? 8 and 3 and 9 and 3. So it does feel like it's shifting a little where it's like not just, oh, you need the best team quarterback, you know, which I actually like. I hate how they do it in the NFL. I think it's stupid that it's basically a one seed quarterback has to win it. Correct. So, yeah, it would be interesting. And Genti's still there.

[A]

I mean, there's a lot of people who don't watch him.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I think there's also a lot of people who could. Who could be biased against Dion, which might hurt you.

[B]

I think it actually helped in a weird way the fact that Dion last year happened because the, the hype got so out of control so early and then they've kind of fell flat on their face the end of the season that they then went back a little bit under the radar where. Where people aren't. People are like, oh, settle into this.

[A]

Is what they are.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

People are slow to go now.

[A]

Right where I.

[D]

Where I'm not like watching the tape. Like, they're way better than they were. Does Hank have any Heisman?

[B]

No, he just walked out.

[A]

Just got a meeting.

[D]

Golfer.

[B]

Keep track of that guy.

[D]

There he is.

[B]

Instant, instant. He just walked. He just left.

[D]

Checking in.

[B]

Hank, do you have a Heisman pick? Steve asked you a question as you walked out.

[A]

It's going to play 18 on the sim.

[B]

I wish. My only Heisman future is Dylan Raiola, so.

[A]

Oh, yeah, it's not going to work.

[B]

I do have a loser in Nico. I did bet Nico. Oh, no, I have Travis Hunter, too. Oh, okay. Yeah, Yeah.

[D]

I just. Because I can't think of him. Was I mentioned I saw Will on the sidelines at Austin. I'm like, hey, we've been a couple flights. We literally sat across the aisle from each other on a 5am flight after a and M Notre Dame. And we didn't realize till we got to Dallas and we were on separate flights where we DM'd each other. I Was like, was that you on that flight? Was that you? So I said hi to him finally at odds. And we talked about. He doesn't even say hi. It's just like Rayola. That's all he said.

[B]

He's in a, he's in a, he's in a world.

[D]

Tough one last week, man.

[B]

All right, last question. Before we do games, I want you to tell me, Steve, unbiased perspective, the state of the Wisconsin Badgers.

[D]

Oh, glad you asked, because last week I thought it was there. He was, it was there for the taken. I, I, I've said it on a couple. Like, it, it got, it got, it's gotten to a point. Like, I think Luke Fickle is such a badass of a dude. Like, he's just like, if you haven't done it, go back and watch his old wrestling videos. Like, he whipped ass wrestling. Like, there's one thing with football guys. Everybody knows who the wrestlers are, and it comes from a leverage standpoint. But to finally see his team start to get to the level and play like him, like the Alabama game, just, you know, crushed with, with the injury to the quarterback, Van Dyke. But then you see them get up, back off the mat and start establishing things, you know, getting back to running the full defense is on a better page. And last Saturday, knowing how good Madison is on a Saturday night, it was there for the taken and they just couldn't do it. The pick six, you knew as soon as it happened. It's there. So whereas Alabama, you're out of it after the first second quarter. You've, you've, you made strides like you were, you were there. You had a winnable game in the second. You had the lead at halftime.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Right. Ten, seven.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

So I, on the up and up. This, this game's monstrous this week.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Because I was kind of teetering, you know. Now they made the quarterback move and like I always, when it gets to this point of the season, we have a good mindset. Are you better than you were last year?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And when you're in Luke Fickle's standpoint of trying to build this thing back up, there's no doubt Wisconsin's better than they were last year.

[B]

That was, you know, that was my, my, my preseason take. When anyone asked me about Wisconsin this year, I said, I think there'll be a better team. I don't know if they'll have a better record. Which sounds crazy to say, but it's.

[D]

Crazy knowing the north said the same exact thing.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

At the, at the PGA Championship. In May. Yeah, he told me that.

[B]

I was saying it all summer because I was like, look, we play the revisionist history. There's some, there's some angst in the Badger Nation that, you know, like the Alabama game, obviously the USC game, USC doesn't look good, you know, the rest of the way, that's a winnable game. But the angst is there. And I think people are doing revisionist history. When you think about the best Badger teams, I was, I was there. I was in person in Dallas in 2015 when, when the Badgers were still had, you know, they had stuff going and they played Alabama and we got run off. The. The best Wisconsin team in the last 20 years does not beat Alabama. That's just, it's just, it's just a fact. So you don't like that game. To me, and how it went was not surprising. And I didn't think it was an indication of where the program is. It was that you just played Alabama. Don't schedule Alabama. I wish we backed out of next year's game.

[A]

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[D]

Pick Big noon or night game? Peacock.

[B]

Well, who else is that week? That's. That's going to be an awesome weekend in Madison because we play Arizona in basketball on Friday night.

[D]

Oh, wow. Yeah.

[B]

Arizona Friday night and then Oregon on Saturday. I believe that will be. I think that will be big noon. I'm looking at it right now.

[A]

Big 12:30 they should call it.

[B]

I think it's going to be big noon because in 1228.

[A]

Sprudel.

[B]

Dad. Steve. Oh, no. Yeah, that'll be big noon because Nebraska. USC plays. They'll put that at night.

[A]

Start the game.

[B]

Nebraska, USC will play at night. Don't you think they'll put that on? Peacock?

[D]

I would think so, yeah. Are you guys with me? There can't be a better uniform game this year or maybe ever than Penn State at USC this year.

[B]

Oh, yes.

[D]

That was classic. That was. The sun was shining. It wasn't the Rose Bowl. It was a conference home game.

[B]

There was a guy. There was a guy who. I don't. I wish I knew his Twitter. And he was taking, like, pictures on the sideline, and I just looked through all of them, and it looked like you were in a time machine. It really did. It looked like you were watching football from, like, 1960. It was so fucking cool. That was incredible. Yeah. I mean, Penn State's uniforms are. They're elite.

[A]

I don't like them, but it's a good uniform.

[B]

Yeah. All right, well, let's get to the games. Let's start with. Yeah, yeah, let's. Let's talk games. Ohio State. Penn State is the first one we got on. On our list. The current line, I believe, is still. Let me pull it up. It is still Ohio State minus four. Is it. Is it moved to three and a hook.

[D]

I see three and a half.

[B]

Three, three and a half. I. I'll start with this over. Under is 45.

[D]

That's come down a lot.

[B]

Yeah, I, I don't want to feel like I'm walking into a trap here because you see Penn State handle their business. Second half in Madison on Saturday. You see Ohio State struggle in Nebraska. You know, like, you. You're. You think yourself. You're like, all right, Penn State's better than Ohio State. Ryan Day owns James Franklin, who's got more pressure on them in this game.

[A]

Think it's equal. They both Have a lot of pressure.

[B]

Who's got more pressure?

[D]

I totally disagree. I think it's Ohio State.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. Because Penn State's. They're going to the playoffs.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, James Franklin just cannot beat Ohio State. They have not beaten him since 2016. I'm going to take Penn State plus three and a half. I'm going to do it because I think Ohio State losing their left tackle, that was the thing that was shocking to me. Yeah. Yeah. They lost their backup too, right?

[D]

Backup got hurt last week.

[B]

Yeah. I. That was a shocking thing to me. Last week was like they were getting kind of bullied in the trenches and Penn State is a real deal defense. So I think Penn State. I don't know if Aller's playing or pr. I actually think they should do a package for both because they're. They are very different. But I'm gonna take Penn State plus three and a half. What do you got, Steve?

[D]

Just a couple things here for numbers for the people. Penn State's failed to cover the last six games as an underdog of seven or fewer points. That's the longest active streak in FBS. Franklin has struggled 1 and 9 straight up against Ohio State. However, they're 7 and 3 against the spread.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

And going to Ohio State's. Feel like you touched on it, Dan. They looked as bad as you could be coming off a buy. I was there at Austin, I mentioned and they were there step for step, had the lead. Oregon answered every time they scored with a big play, splash play and kept that crowd in it. And I thought that was a major factor in the last drive. I don't love this. I. I really want to take the over. I just feel like there's too much talent. I love both offense coordinators. Ohio State will have something from a creative standpoint to be able to run the ball for Ryan Day to come off the field. And the first thing he says in the press conference is we have to be able to run it. Their salary cap at running back is maxed out and those guys need to get the ball and have some success. So I'm going to say Ohio State wins by field goal. Therefore, I will take Penn State plus the point.

[B]

I. I kind of agree with the field goal game.

[A]

I'll lay the three and a half.

[B]

You'Re going to take. Yeah.

[A]

Will Howard's my guy. Will Howard's my guy. Like what he said about running the ball. I think Franklin, he owns Franklin. I don't love that it's a noon kick instead of A nighttime. If it was nighttime. I think that's an old school handicap, obviously. But nighttime is a little bit more electric for State. Penn. I like Ohio State.

[D]

Here, close.

[A]

Obviously it's going to be close.

[D]

Couple things here. Why won't they do a wide out for a noon game? What's the big fricking deal?

[B]

Good question. Yeah.

[A]

All of a sudden they want to follow the laws. You know what I mean?

[D]

Steve, like he says, bring white, white out energy.

[B]

Yeah. Just do a whiteout.

[D]

Like seriously, just do it.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

You haven't won in eight years against Ohio State.

[B]

Do you, do you trust Will Howard, Steve? I don't.

[D]

You know, it sucks because being there I was really impressed with him at all at Oregon. I thought he played great. And then the last play happens. So that dictates how everyone says. I, I thought he played fine last week, you know. And that's what I think about this week in having quick game, all that stuff. I do trust him in that. I wasn't sure before the season. He's earned my trust this season. Does Rico have any places for me to go in State College?

[A]

I do not know.

[D]

You don't have any friends?

[A]

I would say champs because they're good to us.

[D]

We went to a local establishment. You have many peeps on the feet.

[B]

On the ground there.

[A]

We could ask Max.

[D]

No, no, I don't want to ask anybody.

[A]

No, I'm not familiar with that place.

[D]

You're a people person. I know.

[B]

Yeah, you are. Did you get wings in Bloomington?

[D]

I did.

[B]

Did you go to Buffalo, Louis?

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

So good. So.

[D]

Wow. Yeah, they're, they're a one seed.

[B]

Yeah, they, they're, they're. Shout out to Buffalo, Louis. Guys. They brought us a whole platter when we went to Bloomington. I, I, when I say I don't trust Will Howard. It's, it's just to win a national championship. That was my take before the season. That's my take still. I think he's a very good quarterback. I just don't know. Like in Austin, like you said, Steve, game on the line. But his, his receivers are so good that it might not matter. You know what I mean?

[A]

Like he's played in some big games at Kansas State, obviously racing for that conference championship every, every year.

[B]

Yeah. All right.

[D]

Yeah. The game that scarred me last was last year on a Thursday night. He went to Stillwater and looked awful.

[B]

That place.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

All right. Oregon, Michigan. Next up. Oregon's -15 over unders 45. I'll start with this one as well. I Hate doing it, but I like the under. I like the under. I think Oregon's defense has. I think the only two teams. Who are the two teams? Or Ohio State and Boise State are the two teams that has scored more than 14 points against Oregon. Do you think Michigan is Ohio State and Boise State on offense? Absolutely not. I think Michigan's defense is still good. They are going to be that. This is kind of like a, you know, gut check. Hey, we know Oregon is a great offense. Let's go fucking man up on them. I like the under 45 for this game.

[D]

Steve, you nailed it with my thoughts. I just want to point out this is the second largest home dog Michigan has been since 1978. Wow. I was one. I was one.

[B]

What were they? What were they when they were 2013.

[D]

2013.

[B]

Ohio State.

[D]

Ohio State. They were plus 16 and a half. Wow. They lost. That was a 42, 41 game.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Crazy one.

[B]

That's right. That, that, that is crazy that that's. It's been that long and yeah.

[D]

And so like, I mean they're owing five against the spread against teams above 500. Like it's not for. They're. They're a brutal watch. Brutal. And you nailed it with the defense of Oregon. If Dylan Gabriel sputters a little bit, they still got some. Plenty of talent. Michigan's defense, they'll be, they'll be juiced up for this. That defense will keep them in it because Michigan just, they can't do it offensively. I'm going to lay the 14 and a half with Oregon.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

But I love, I love your undercar. I don't want to do the same thing after you go first. So I do love your under call. Maybe you know what? Tease them both. That's. That's a winner.

[B]

I like that. Wait. T's tease the Oregon in the under. I like that. Yeah. No, the in Oregon has not. Or sorry Michigan at home or Michigan this year. I believe the only team that scored over 24 points against them was Texas, so. Or no, Sorry, Washington scored 27 against them. So I mean if you do the math, if Michigan keeps them to 27:30 is Michigan scoring? They're not 17 points in this game.

[A]

It's have nots. I don't have haves and have nots with the quarterback. I think Oregon rolls them.

[B]

Oh, you like the Ducks to roll.

[A]

I like the Ducks to roll. Like they could win. Boring. I think Michigan's defense. But their offense is just that bad.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Where they're not going to score like Their defense will be like, what do we do? We held them to 24 and they went 24 to 6.

[B]

Yeah, something like that.

[A]

Like I do think it's, I think it could be ugly, but I like Oregon here. Big.

[D]

Okay, next Michigan, first half, what that is?

[B]

Yeah, that's good call. Cause yeah, keep it in with the juice and then they get a little deflated.

[D]

We getting more than. Yeah, you're going to be getting more than a touchdown.

[B]

Let's see halves. Michigan first half is eight and a half. I don't hate that.

[D]

Just throwing it out there.

[B]

Yeah. Cocktail party, Florida, Georgia. I'll let you start, Steve, so that you don't copy me on anything.

[D]

You know one of Dan's favorite all timers, Graham Merz. I really am bummed he's hurt. I would have loved to see him in this game knowing that he's got himself so much better. You get a, you know, quarterbacks want a chance to go against the best and that's what makes me think all that's been up. I'm Billy Napier guy. I really like him. I want him to do well, keep that job. I believe that he knows what he's doing. He has been really, really good with quarterbacks going back to his days at Louisiana with Levi and I I, it's like George's offense, it hasn't gotten there yet. And now I'm starting to want like go through the SEC quarterbacks in conference play and all of them look at touchdowns, interceptions. Carson back's eight and eight. That's not good for a guy that like people had top of the draft boards. And when you w. Like being at the Texas game, being at the Alabama game, he's not, he doesn't put the ball where it's supposed to be. That led to, you know, critical interceptions in the first half against Texas. And I just wonder. I don't think they can overpower Florida. I, I like Florida to hang around in this game. I do like the under. Okay, we got 52.

[B]

52. Yeah. Yeah. This game feels like it goes under a lot.

[D]

Yeah. Special team like Bowers always broke big plays in this game. Georgia has not been good as a 14 point favorite this year. Oh, and four ATS. But I don't, I'm. I'm sort of just.

[A]

I want to.

[D]

This game's awesome when it's good and I know it feels like we get blowouts all the time.

[A]

Florida's not.

[D]

I'm gonna, I think Florida keeps it inside. What is. If it gets to 17, I would take Florida. It's at 16, 16 and a half right now, but under 52 and a half.

[B]

All right, I'm wrong. I want to correct myself. The last like two years, it was 42, 20, 43, 20, 34, 7, 28, 44. So never mind. There are points in the. This game. I was wrong.

[D]

Give us the. That's on like all over.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, Rico.

[A]

Under 52 and a half. Okay, I'm taking the under. I do think Florida is not as bad as people think this year. They were supposed to be awful. And you looked at that schedule, they might still hit that win total, which everybody loved the under, that win total. And it then went. I think it went from five and a half to all the way down to four and a half. And they still have Florida State on the schedule. They do have a Murderers row here coming up of the next four games.

[D]

I don't know what Ole Miss is going to be when they go there. Right. Watch out.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. So they're not as bad as they. I think this is an under. I think Georgia takes. Takes care of business. Defensively, Florida doesn't get pummeled. I think it's a little. A little gross under the thing.

[D]

It's all on. Lagways was his third start. Like, if they had any quarterback with some experience that. That's seen anything in the realm of Georgia. I would like Florida a lot, but I just can't do it with. With such youth at quarterback.

[B]

Okay, I'll join you guys in the under. I wanted to take Georgia, but I just. That's just a lot of points. I. In Florida. I agree with you, Rico. Like, Florida's not as bad. They're really not as started so bad that people.

[A]

They might make a bowl and that's a win for this year. I don't know if it keeps Napier's job, but they might get a bowl.

[D]

I think it does.

[B]

Okay. Yeah, I think.

[D]

Who are you going to get? I.

[A]

That's always the question.

[B]

Gruden Lane. Lane is the only answer.

[D]

All right.

[B]

I mean, that's what they want. I don't think they can get them.

[A]

They got a lot of money at nil at Ole Miss, though.

[B]

All right, next game, we've got Texas A and M at South Carolina. Whoo.

[A]

Give me the line on that.

[B]

That's two and a half, I believe. I love South Carolina in this game. And I might be walking into a trap. I'm doing it on defense. I'm doing on letdown spot. That Texas A and M game was Fantastic. They played fantastic against LSU in that second half. Who do you think is going to play quarterback? Are they going to go. Are they going to go back and forth with Wegman and Marcel Reed?

[D]

I would start Reed.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

Knowing what. Knowing his capability and knowing what South Carolina brings to the table, you know, what do you go two for two throwing the ball?

[B]

Yeah. For like 50 yards. Yeah. Yeah.

[D]

And the throw couldn't even been even better. This. Go ahead, whoever's. No, Rico, go.

[B]

You going Texas A and M. I.

[A]

Like Texas A and M. I wrote him last week against LSU in a big time spot. I know it's a letdown. Everything roads that way. I like the way this Texas A and M team's playing.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I like Elko as well.

[B]

Yeah, I like Elko.

[A]

Tight spots. I'll back the coach when it comes down to it.

[B]

I like Elko because it reminds everyone that you don't need the flashy hire every time. Just get a good football coach. He. Texas A and M did the Jimbo thing. Mike Elko is just a good fucking football coach. And it's like, you know, whenever boosters and schools get into that, their own head of, like, oh, well, we need a big name. We need a national champion coach, all that shit. Get a good football coach. Michael is a good football coach.

[A]

I had a West Virginia fan come up to me the other day and say, what do you think about Jimbo to West Virginia? If they could get him?

[B]

Interesting. They might be able to get him. He's not doing anything.

[D]

No, I wouldn't hire him. Okay.

[B]

What do you got in this game?

[D]

You guys nail it with Elko? Got a chance. He let me come to practice before the Notre Dame game. The guy's so fricking good, you know, he's. He's. He's one of us. You know, he's. He's. He's down to earth. But God damn, he gets his. His team to play. It's just what they're up against here, getting back up after such a big win against LSU. South Carolina is 5 and 1 against the spread against HP. Top 10 teams since 21. That's the second best in the country over that span. That place is special at night. It sucks because I trust Elko so much more than Beamer. And that's going to be the reason I'm wrong. I will take South Carolina plus the points at home.

[B]

Yeah. Okay.

[D]

Last on the field, Rico.

[B]

On the field.

[A]

On the field.

[D]

Field.

[B]

On the field. Last game, Pit at smu.

[A]

Got a big laugh from Jackie back there, he's been asleep for 45 minutes.

[B]

But huge, huge game in the ACC pitted SMU. Do we know the status of Holstein?

[D]

I think he's gonna be a guy. I think him and Drew Aller are both going to be game times.

[B]

Okay, I, I like SMU in this game. What's the, what's the current line? I thought it was. Pitt has been awesome. They've also, they've had some crazy games. That Cincinnati game was crazy. I mean last Thursday. Yeah, Thursday. Three pick sixes, five interceptions. I think smu, I think it kind of. The Cinderella story kind of runs out tonight on Saturday night with Pitt. I'm taking smu, Steve.

[D]

I'm going to take Pitt plus the points. Love what Narduzzi does. I thought it was a huge ego check when he brought in Cade Bell as offensive coordinator. He's a hurry up guy. He brought some guys from Western Carolina with him. Totally goes against everything Narduzzi has ever stood for. And here they are, undefeated, ranked 18th in the country. Just feels like it's too many points. Love Rhett Lashley. I thought that was a big time decision he had to make. Changing quarterbacks. The numbers are against me. Pitts six straight cover losses as a road dog. It's the longest streak in fbs. Something sells me. Pitt's defense hangs, hangs around. There was a quarterback position, you know, for Pit and Holstein won it. So their backup is capable. And, and I mean both. You look at those, both those games last. Pitt has the five picks, three pick sixes. SMU turned the ball over six times and still won. Yeah, like you can't be. I mean, I believe it's 10 loss fumbles, most in power 4 SMU. You can't live like that and continue to be successful. I'll say SMU wins, but I'll take Pitt plus the points.

[B]

Okay, Rico.

[A]

Over. Oh, I think you get some like you mentioned pitch playing some weird college. You get some college football plays in this one. I've always liked SMU's. The offense coming into the season had their win total over. Thought they were a sleeper in that conference. Even with the quarterback change, they've been putting up some points. I kind of like the over here.

[B]

Okay, you know what? I'm going to ride with you in the over.

[D]

I like the over.

[B]

I'm going to add the over to my card. 58 and a half.

[D]

Is that your first over?

[B]

Yeah, it was my first over. Scratch it.

[D]

Are you still finding yourself after Sunday?

[B]

I'm. I'm having I'm having a terrible, terrible, terrible football season. I need college. I'm like Bosco. I need college basketball. Just a reset.

[A]

Speaking of college basketball, you did go to practice, Steve, they're 13 deep. They're fucking unbelievable, right? Like, we're. We're booked for happy hour in San Antonio.

[D]

UConn.

[A]

No, I'm talking about Bama, but UConn's very good. Yeah, we're booked for half. I'm going to put it on the thing right now. Anything less than us being at happy hour in San Antonio would be a failure.

[D]

Oh, yeah. They better go to the Final Four.

[A]

They better. Back to back.

[B]

I mean, this is a big. You're like, if you don't do it, I'm going to make fun of you a lot.

[A]

And rightfully so. They're 13 deep. They look fucking unbelievable. The other night against Memphis, they got three starters missing. They're still scoring 96 points in scrimmages. You've seen the culture down there. The guy, like, I text you about it.

[B]

You didn't know what to tell me about the culture down there.

[A]

Guy's a winner. Yeah, I mean, you got to go to practice. I text you, I said, you're starting to see it.

[D]

I will say, seeing it in prayer. It's really cool. He lets. He lets anybody affiliated with a high school program come to practice anytime, any.

[A]

Day, forget where he came from.

[B]

He lets Bosco go in. That's. I mean, if you. If you let Bosco go to your practice, you're letting anyone go. You need just a warm room to sit in. You can go to Alabama's practice.

[D]

Dan. I gotta. I gotta admit, I got in trouble from Scott because I bought the Kool Aid in Bloomington. I put on the candy stripes. I was all in. And I got five minutes. No, not five minutes. I got about a half hour by myself, all by myself on the floor in assembly hall, looking up, checking it out. Like, I'm older than you guys. But like the Bob Knight deal when I was young, they never lost at home. I mean, like, never. It was years. It felt like watching as a kid and to be in there, like, it. It was. It was really cool. And then you go into players lounge. Like, Oladipo and Zeller donated everything. Like, you're in this immaculate players lounge, and then you go out and it's old school. Assembly hall is. What's the best venue in Big Ten for hoops?

[B]

I mean, Assembly Hall's got to be. It's pretty well, the call center because they can Help us out with the refs. Scott would say that, by the way, Bob Knight. People forget Bob Knight was supposed to be Wisconsin's head coach. History could have been very different.

[D]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. They. They. He was going from army to Wisconsin, and the press leaked it before he could tell his wife. And he's like, no, I'm not going. That was. That was how close it was. Hoops for Big Ten. I mean, assembly hall's got to be one. Yeah, man.

[D]

Okay. I'm just double checking.

[B]

Yeah, no, I'm just thinking if there's any. I mean, there's a.

[A]

You know, Sprinkle is going to have the boys on the rise. Don't forget that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Hanks all in on Washington still.

[D]

American Airlines arena.

[B]

Yeah. Is it?

[D]

No. Alaska. Alaska Airlines. Alaska.

[B]

I hate the Oregon court.

[D]

What about mush in the. In the Galen Center?

[B]

Yeah, we. We went. We practiced there. It was. It was awesome.

[D]

Paulie pavilion.

[B]

Yeah. Paulie's up there. Yeah. Paul is up there for sure. All right. Well, Steve, thank you, man. We appreciate you filling in. We got some good football talk.

[A]

They have a best bet.

[B]

Oh, you got a best bet this week? Who?

[D]

Oregon's up there? Yep.

[B]

Okay, that's mine.

[D]

Or. Hold on, hold on.

[A]

Is it 15 throws? 14 on the hook.

[B]

No, it's 15.

[A]

Oh, damn.

[B]

Another meeting.

[D]

Arkansas.

[B]

Oh, I liked Ole Miss. Okay, Arkansas. Steve, you're the best. Thank you. We'll. We'll see you when you. We see you. See you on the road. You'll be on the road.

[A]

You'll see him before me.

[B]

But I'll see you in San Antonio.

[D]

Yeah. Rico doesn't go to college football. Can we get Rico to a college football game?

[B]

It is kind of crazy. You do have to come to one now. I didn't realize that you'd never been to, like, a big one.

[D]

His first one should be whoever Northwestern plays at Wrigley.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Come out for that. Northwestern. Ohio State at Wrigley.

[D]

There you go.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Thanks, Steve.

[B]

All right, Steve.

[D]

Gotta give me a big to a Northwestern home game on the practice field.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Soccer field.

[B]

Everyone tune in to, you know, SportsCenter. It's the best with Scott. SV Pod. He's. Steve's on game day every week. He's the best in the biz. All right, Steve, we'll see you.

[D]

All right, guys.

[B]

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[A]

Memphis minus seven and a half. Navy minus ten and a half. Louisville. Clemson over 61 and a half. And Oregon is the best bet minus 15.

[B]

Oh, I like that. Louisville, Clemson. Add that to my card. Over. I'm going to take Army Air Force over 41 and a half.

[A]

I know.

[B]

I wanted to do that too with.

[A]

Those service academies, but I think army rolls them. I think army rolls them.

[B]

And I'm also going to take Michigan State plus seven and a half. Let's do our mortals. I'll have more ads to the card as we go. I just. I. There's no. I can't do anything. I'm just bad this year.

[A]

Where's Ebo?

[B]

Mortal.

[A]

I want his mortal.

[B]

Miami minus 21. Miami minus 21 versus Duke. Duke.

[A]

Okay, Duke's overachieving this year. Gave out their win total under. Didn't do it.

[B]

Soupy.

[D]

I'm going Texas A M minus two and a half.

[B]

Okay, Texas ams. Bubba, are you on this? We'll get his Jack, Jackie, mine and evo. Mine is Minnesota minus 3.

[D]

Evo is Florida plus 16 and a half.

[B]

Florida plus 16 and a half.

[A]

They're not that bad.

[B]

Bosco.

[A]

Oregon minus 15.

[B]

Oregon minus 15.

[A]

Think they win by 21.

[D]

Plus.

[B]

I actually was going to do Ole Miss and now I'm scared because of Steve. So I have to figure out what my lock is. I'm going to look real quick. Stall. Say something.

[A]

Rico, say something.

[D]

I have something for Rico.

[A]

Oh, here we go.

[B]

I just wanted to ask, if you're.

[D]

So confident in Alabama going to the final four, should we bet your ability to go on the trip? Only if Alabama makes it.

[B]

I love that.

[D]

I mean, you said you're very, very confident.

[A]

Very, very confident. But I have to go to the final four. You have to I got you.

[D]

I know there's a lot to.

[A]

I do a lot of meetings, get numbers. If you're very confident, I think you.

[D]

Should put that on the table right now.

[A]

The NCAA tournament is always a weird scenario. You know what I mean? Anybody could beat anybody. But I'm very confident in them.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Very confident.

[D]

So we have a deal?

[A]

Jack's making decisions on guest list.

[B]

Sounds like a good deal.

[A]

If there's people expecting me, they're like.

[B]

Sounds like a good deal.

[A]

That's the time I catch up with them.

[B]

Okay, I'll do Penn State plus three and a half. Mortal. All right. Dave will be back next week. Thank you, everyone, for tuning in. Let's win some bets.

[A]

Let's take care of it.