2024 Barstool Pick Em Week 13

Summary

Barstool Pick Em – 2024 Week 13 Recap

Podcast: Barstool Pick Em
Date: November 21, 2024
Hosts: Dan "Big Cat" Katz, Dave Portnoy (Pres), Rico Bosco
Notable Guests/Staffers: Garrett, Trey

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Episode Overview

This episode brings the signature chaos as Big Cat, Pres, and Rico break down the betting slate for Week 13 of college football, discuss recent gambling heartbreaks, dive into the dysfunction caused by Rico's perpetual blinking and contact lens abuse, and rove through the evolving world of college football playoffs. As always, the guys showcase both their confidence and their chronic misery as gamblers.

Main Theme:

• Bantering through personal misfortunes, close misses, and degenerate betting strategies, with added color from Big Cat’s Heisman hedge dilemma and a running side plot about Rico’s disastrous contact lens hygiene.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Recap of Bad Beats: The San Jose State Fiasco

• [02:12] Dan and Dave commiserate over one of the worst losses of the year, when San Jose State blew a 21-point cover:

  Dave: “So, like, they're plus 14 and a half. They're in the number the whole game. They're winning… I went to sleep, woke up, checked the score, and they lost by 21. The math in my head, I'm like, I knew. That doesn't make sense. So I… looked at the play by play, and it was a pick six… then Dan texted me 10 seconds later, he's like, did you see the end of the game?... They drove to the one with, like, plenty of time left.”

  • The guys agree: first-and-goal at the 1-yard line, you should always score. The fact San Jose State didn’t, especially for gambling purposes, was catastrophic.

2. The Great Contact Lens Debate: Rico’s Blinking Crisis

• [04:46] – [11:40] Continual distraction from Rico's excessive blinking leads to a running inquisition on his shocking contact lens habits.
  • Rico admits he wears regular contacts for “a month and a half” straight, sleeping in them, never cleaning them, and can't figure out why his eyes are so irritated.
  • The crew ropes in other staffers (Garrett, then Trey) for their takes:
    • Garrett: “A month and a half? Not that I know of.” [08:32]
    • Trey: “That’s terrible. You’re not supposed to do more than one day.” [10:01]
  • Memorable Moment:
    • Dan: “Rico, I'll say this. You're blinking so much, people aren't going to notice the herpe on your lip.” [11:56]
    • Rico protests: “No, that's a zit, dude. What do you want me to say?”
  • Dave: “To sit there with that level of blinking and not think something is wrong.” [11:40]

3. College Football Playoff Bracket Drama

• [14:31] – [16:01] The guys delve into the controversial CFP scenario, especially how Big 12 may get boxed out in favor of lower-profile teams:
  • Dan explains how Boise State (if they win out) could get a playoff bye due to being a top-ranked conference champion.
    • Rico: “So it could be Army.”
    • Dan: "Yeah. So. And there's chaos. The Big 12 just eats itself alive."
  • The difficulties of bracket rules and 'super conferences' are lamented.

4. Heisman Long Shot Drama & Hedging Strategies

• [16:46] – [18:57] A debate around Big Cat’s massive futures bet on Travis Hunter (Colorado) to win the Heisman (at 40-1; would pay $200k).
  • Should he hedge?
    • Dave: “You're down. Like, you can't afford a hedge.”
    • Rico: “I think you should just ride it.”
    • Dan: “Okay… I'll just ride it. Well, it's not a great pick unless I win that.”
    • Dave: “It is a great pick even if you don't win it.” [19:04]

5. NFL Futures and Super Bowl Speculation

• [19:13] – [20:58] The hosts size up futures markets, with Dave musing about a seven-figure Lions bet at +350, citing a belief “they've separated, I think they're way better than everybody else.”
• The NFC versus AFC depth/betting strategy is discussed.

6. Two-Point Conversion Analytics

• [21:09] – [24:29] Rico brings up a two-point conversion scenario from the recent Bills game, launching analytics talk about when to go for two versus an extra point.
  • Dan: “You're two point savant.”
  • Rico: “I've tried it.” [23:32]
  • Dave and Dan ultimately prefer more conservative approaches but appreciate Rico’s scheme-brain.

7. Deep Dive: This Week’s Betting Slate

• Transition point—finally into the picks and breakdowns.

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Game-by-Game Breakdown with Notable Quotes

1. Ole Miss @ Florida (+10.5, O/U 55.5)

• [25:20]
• Dan: “I'm going to take Florida plus ten and a half simply because I think we spend all this time every single year debating all these records... it wouldn't shock me if Florida wins this game.” [25:57]
• Dave: “Florida's playing well… I think this could be an Ole Miss blowout that look back, and I'm like, what? And the fact you took Florida like I did makes me a little nervous.” [26:46]
• Rico: “I'm gonna take the under. I think defense travels. I like Ole Miss's defense. It's the best unit on the field.” [27:40]

2. BYU @ Arizona State (-3, O/U 48.5)

• [28:12]
• unanimous picks for Arizona State
• Rico: “I think they're dialed in. Give me Arizona State.” [28:39]

3. Kansas vs Colorado (+2.5, O/U 59.5)

• [28:45]
• Dave: “I hate the game. I want to root for Dion. So I'll take Colorado. It's not a real live bullet game for me.”
• Dan: “You guys talk me out of the hedge. I'm gonna just roll with Colorado.”

4. Notre Dame vs Army (Yankee Stadium, -14.5, O/U 44.5)

• [31:09]
• Dave: “I have Notre Dame written down in. Something's changing in my mind that. And maybe it's because they beat Navy by a thousand, but maybe Army's better than Navy... I'm gonna take Army. I think they're gonna muck this game up." [31:09]
• Rico: “I'll take the Irish based on what they did to Navy.”
• Dan: After some flip-flopping and confusion, ultimately picks Notre Dame as mortal lock.

5. Indiana (+13.5) at Ohio State (O/U 51.5)

• [31:51]
• Dan & Rico both on Indiana +13.5: "They're having an incredible year. Like, when did we stop rooting for underdogs in this country?” [32:17]
• Dave: “I think Ohio State is going to kill him. So I'm taking Ohio State. If I'm wrong and Indiana's can match up, I'm going to start thinking Michigan can beat Ohio State because Michigan just bullied Indiana.” [32:52]

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Notable Banter & Moments

- Rico’s "Blink Mission" & Contact Lens Chaos

• The “blinking” segment, which dominates the first 15 minutes, becomes a hallmark of the episode—multiple jokes at Rico’s expense, ongoing interruptions, and memes (“Morse code,” “Blinko”).
  • Dave: "You're blinking like a fucking psychopath." [06:47]
  • Dan: “Can we edit this in real? Like, what you were doing clearly distracted me to the point I was in a...bad beat story. And your blinking, like, paralyzed me. It was like I was being waterboarded with your eye, with your blinking.” [10:38]

- Social Media/Indiana Football Propaganda Plot

• [34:15] Segment about Indiana fans mobilizing to get Dan Dakich into their SEC Playoff narrative, lampooned with talk of “woke nonsense” and “stop the steal.”

- Gambling State Logistics for Final Four

• [38:11] – [41:49] The real-life issue of Texas being a non-gambling state makes their Final Four plans convoluted and frustrating:
  • Dan: "It's hard to do a show and talk about betting the game when we can't bet the game." [40:31]

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Cards & Picks Recap

[43:20] Onward

• Rapid-fire run through of picks/cards for the week. Highlights:
  • Rico: “SMU -10, BC-UNC over 56.5, Wake +25.5, Texas Tech -3.5, Arizona State -3, Louisville-Pitt over 57.5...”
  • Dave: “Syracuse-Connecticut over 54.5, Virginia +9.5, BC -3, Florida +10.5 and the under, Ohio State -13.5, Colorado -2.5...”
  • Dan: “Minnesota +11.5, San Jose State +7.5, Washington State-Oregon State over 56... Notre Dame is my (mortal lock) pick...”
  • Note: Dan accidentally gives Army, corrects to Notre Dame as his mortal lock. [46:01]

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Standout Quotes

• Dave: “To sit there with that level of blinking and not think something is wrong.” [11:40]
• Dan: “You're two point savant.” [23:32]
• Dave (on the Lions future): “I think they've separated, I think they're way better than everybody else. My only issue...injuries for rest of the way, but I think they've separated.” [19:16]
• Rico: “It's a bad blinking issue…I got bad blink. I'm low on contacts.” [03:55]
• Dan: “I'm gonna just roll with Colorado. No hedge.” [29:42]
• Dave (about the San Jose St. bad beat): “I was being waterboarded with your eye, with your blinking.” [10:38]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• San Jose State bad beat therapy: [02:12] – [05:20]
• Rico’s contacts interrogation: [04:46] – [13:39]
• CFP bracket confusion: [14:31] – [16:01]
• Heisman hedge debate: [16:46] – [18:57]
• NFL futures/Lions talk: [19:13] – [20:58]
• Two-point analytics/strategy: [21:09] – [24:29]
• Start of picks/games segment: [25:20]
• Indiana CFP propaganda bit: [34:15]
• Final Four logistics/gambling states: [38:11]
• Picks/cards rundown: [43:20] onward

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Tone & Language

• The episode perfectly blends gambling misery, bravado, and camaraderie. There’s biting humor, endless ribbing (often at Rico’s expense), and genuine insight into both football and the life of a degenerate bettor.

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Conclusion

This week’s Barstool Pick Em is a quintessential episode full of unfiltered gambling chatter, wild tangents about personal hygiene, and passionate arguments about both football analytics and the actual structure of the game’s postseason. The hosts' outlandish confidence in their picks paired with genuine self-awareness of their “losing picks with extreme confidence” keeps the episode both insightful for football fans and extremely entertaining for regular listeners.

Transcript

[Rico]

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[Dan]

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[Dave]

I will say, almost can't watch those games because of the courts. I. I like the corn a lot. I like the Celtics. I thought I was watching Oregon. Like Space Jam.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Like, I just hated it.

[Dan]

I like the difference. I don't know. It feels like something different. I. They're not like, visually appealing. I just like the idea that it's. It feels like a different. Something different is going on. So I don't know, maybe they can fix that where it's like, do something that makes it feel different, but maybe not make the courts that way.

[Rico]

Celtics with a big win last night.

[Dan]

It beat the cats. Yeah. Okay. Week 13. Rico still got his eyes holding on Pat Hill.

[Dave]

Somebody scratching, clawing their way back.

[Rico]

They are. They are.

[Dan]

They are.

[Rico]

Definitely are. And I like a lot of games this week. So that could hurt me.

[Dan]

Dave is 49.2%. I'm 46.3%. Have the worst season ever. I did the only thing, the saving grace. I. I did. I Correctly saw that Kansas BYU game for what it was worth. But I had a terrible week again, San Jose State. I. Dave and I, I, I had to text you.

[Dave]

I wish you didn't tell me about it. I wish I didn't know about it, but, you know, I wish I didn't know about it.

[Dan]

You knew I had to. You knew I had to.

[Dave]

I wish I didn't know, but I still, to this moment, wish I didn't really know what I. I was already mad enough. Well, if you haven't seen it, I think in one of these shows, San Jose State was my. My lock.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Dave]

So, like, they're plus 14 and a half. They're in the number the whole game. They're winning. Like, they were up 14 time. Yeah, yeah. And then they're up.

[Rico]

They're.

[Dave]

They're down seven with about seven minutes to go. Boise State driving, and they stop them. So they get the ball back. It looks like a win then because you can still give them another touchdown. You have the ball. I went to sleep, woke up, checked the score, and they lost by 21. The math in my head, I'm like, I knew. That doesn't make sense. So I, I went, looked at the play by play, and it was a pick six, which I knew like a buck 40. They threw a pick six or something. So I'm like, well, that sucks. Went back to sleep. And then dan texted me 10 seconds later. He's like, did you see the end of the game? I'm like, yeah, I did. Like, pick six. Like, no, we drove. Yeah, pick six. They drove to the one with, like, plenty of time left. Rico, are you okay?

[Rico]

Me? Yeah.

[Dave]

Can we cut that of Rico just doing this?

[Rico]

I got bad blink. That's the thing. I got bad blink. I'm low on contacts. I got bad. It's a bad blinking issue.

[Dan]

What do you mean? You low on contacts? I'm.

[Rico]

I got. I got.

[Dave]

That was, like, been like a month and a half.

[Dan]

I know. You've been blinking Morse code.

[Dave]

I know. I don't. Can anybody, like, cut that last? That, like, was making me nervous.

[Rico]

Yes. A lot of my mind, and I'm low on contact.

[Dan]

Okay, so back to the game.

[Dave]

They have first and goal at the one with 45 seconds.

[Rico]

Yes.

[Dave]

They run it on. First down stuffed. I don't know. I watched the play. I don't know how the guy didn't get.

[Dan]

It's crazy.

[Dave]

It like the hole was there. He just, like, got. He went. He meekly went down.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Second play was. It was incomplete.

[Dan]

No, it was. No, it was complete.

[Dave]

They ran again, like a six inch pass. Yeah. Complete tackle at the one third down, sack to end the game in a 21 point game. Nobody in the history of football who has first and goal at the one doesn't score. Boise. Boise stopped him.

[Dan]

Insane loss at the 1. I couldn't. I was screaming at my TV and I had to text you, Dave, because I knew you had it. I had it. And I was like, I need. It was basically like. I just needed like, you know, like. Like a. A support system.

[Dave]

I got a. I. I have a cold right now because that's.

[Dan]

But that's. But that loss deserved a cold like you. You. You needed a cold from that loss. It was crazy. Yeah.

[Dave]

I've been going to bed so early with the dogs, so it's like I couldn't make. I like se. All right. I'm good. I knew BYU was a loser, probably. I was going, so I needed. Yeah, it. And then Dan. Dan sent me the actual. I just saw the play like two days ago for the first time. It was on Van Pelt's bad beats. Just unbelievable. I can't take. Can we put sunglasses on? Rico, what's going on? You're blinking. Is driving me insane.

[Dan]

Oh, right there behind you. Right next to you, bro.

[Rico]

What do you want me to say? I'm blinking?

[Dan]

I don't know.

[Dave]

So distracting.

[Rico]

All right, Blinking, Blinking. What do you want me to say?

[Dave]

Well, stop blinking so fast.

[Dan]

All right? You just keep. You just don't have. What's the problem? You don't have contacts.

[Rico]

I gotta pick up the contacts. Yeah, I'm on the last pair. I sleep with the contacts. I think it irritates your eyes.

[Dan]

Aren't you not supposed to sleep with contacts?

[Rico]

You're not supposed to. I sleep with them.

[Dan]

Why?

[Rico]

Because I'm an idiot.

[Dan]

So you've had those contacts in for how long?

[Rico]

And a half.

[Dan]

You've never taken them out?

[Rico]

No.

[Dan]

Isn't that really bad?

[Dave]

I'm not contact guy.

[Dan]

I'm not a contact guy.

[Dave]

I know Zoo.

[Dan]

Are you a contacts guy?

[Rico]

No, but that's just like, common knowledge.

[Dave]

That you're supposed to clean them.

[Rico]

Yeah. Every night you put them in and.

[Dan]

You keep them in for a month and a half. Yeah, that's. I feel like that's.

[Dave]

I can't react properly because I know nothing.

[Dan]

I know nothing. Yeah.

[Dave]

You could have told me this the craziest. Or like, Okay, I have no idea. I'm not contact guy.

[Dan]

Jack, go get a contact guy and just. Anyone Literally.

[Dave]

Anyone ask someone where it's contact.

[Dan]

This feels like the craziest thing ever.

[Dave]

Because he's blinking like a fucking psychopath.

[Dan]

This feels like the craziest thing ever.

[Dave]

Are you communicating with everybody currently with that level of blink?

[Rico]

I guess, yeah. It's been bad.

[Dave]

I know.

[Rico]

I don't know what to do.

[Dave]

You're just doing that.

[Rico]

It's a lot. The lights are bright too. The lights are bright. The lights are bright. People comment. People have definitely commented on it. They're like, you're blinking a lot.

[Dan]

You're bringing that level of blink to the work every single day.

[Rico]

Pretty much.

[Dan]

Who do we got? Who do we got? Okay, Garrett. Okay.

[Rico]

Ryder.

[Dan]

Known Ryder. Yeah. He's also Gary. He's the. He's the one who made the graphic.

[Rico]

I know. Yeah. On his own. Can we confirm that?

[Dan]

Yeah. Gary, you want to. You want to address that?

[Garrett]

What, the graphic?

[Dan]

Yeah, he had the. You when, rico? At like 5 and 4. That one week and you had a shift.

[Dave]

I know this guy. This guy only wears Michigan Apparel. Yeah, 24 7. Yeah, Michigan Apparel. I'm not mad about it, but I mean, I know him as. This is the mission guy. Head to toe, Michigan General.

[Dan]

Yeah. All right, so Garrett said. Yeah. What about the graphic before we get to the contacts?

[Garrett]

I mean, hey, whatever gets clicks, right?

[Dan]

Okay, so. All right, so Ryder, through and through. Ryder, he was the one behind the. Yeah, there's missiles coming off and it was like 6 and 5. Garrett, you wear contacts. How long you been wearing contacts?

[Garrett]

Probably for like 10 years.

[Dan]

Okay, how long do you keep your contacts in your eyes without taking them out and cleaning them?

[Garrett]

Well, I have like the disposable, like one one day contacts. Okay, so it's different, I guess, but I mean, it's pretty much just like put them on in the morning, taking them off when I get home, and then putting like glasses on.

[Dan]

Have you ever heard of anyone keeping contacts in their eyeballs and not taking them out to clean them or anything? For a month and a half.

[Garrett]

A month and a half? Not that I know of.

[Rico]

I don't know.

[Dan]

Is that crazy?

[Garrett]

That seems a little like. Seems like a long period of time.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Garrett]

To have men. I mean, maybe they. Maybe they have contacts that are supposed to be worn that long.

[Dave]

I gotta start doing some Google research here.

[Dan]

All right, Garrett, thank you. Can we get. Can you find someone else, Garrett, who has contacts as you did do the disposable, so I'd like to have some.

[Rico]

I gotta get the disposables. It looks like There are monthly disposables on Google.

[Dan]

That's not what you're buying, right?

[Rico]

I'm assuming. I mean, I think the blinking directly correlates to you not taking your content. Definitely.

[Dan]

All right, Garrett, find someone else. Just grab someone else in the. In the back.

[Dave]

All right, but, like, kind of contacts do you use?

[Dan]

They're just regular.

[Rico]

Regular contacts. I don't know the brand.

[Dan]

Like, you buy the ones that you're supposed to take out every night.

[Rico]

Supposed to take out every night, But I watch the games late, and then you fall asleep, and then you have it in. I don't know what to say.

[Dan]

But that's not every night.

[Rico]

It's a lot here.

[Dan]

You can show.

[Dave]

On the other hand, extended wear. Lenses can be worn day and night for several days.

[Dan]

And that's a separate type of contacts that he's buying. Why don't you just get Lasik?

[Rico]

I don't think it's covered.

[Dan]

What?

[Rico]

I would. I would have to shell out for it.

[Dan]

Oh, here we go. Trey. Trey. What's up? You wear contacts? I do, yeah. Okay. How long have you been wearing contacts?

[Dave]

Like, eighth grade, I think.

[Dan]

Okay. And now do you do the disposable ones that, like, you throw out after one?

[Rico]

Yes.

[Dan]

Have you ever used the other ones?

[Dave]

Yes.

[Dan]

Okay. Two weeks. Yeah. So how long would you keep them in your face, in your eyes, without taking them out to clean them? Just take them out at the end of every day, basically. Okay. What if I told you that Rico has put those contacts in his eyes and he's not taking them out for a month and a half? That's terrible. You're not supposed to do more than one day.

[Rico]

Yeah, I know. You keep saying, you know, why do you do this?

[Dave]

And he's sitting here like this.

[Rico]

It's not that bad.

[Dan]

So I had to get adjusted to the eyes.

[Dave]

Somebody get the lights on.

[Rico]

Right.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Can we edit this in real? Like, what you were doing clearly distracted me to the point I was in a. In an enthralling bad beat story. And you're blinking, like, paralyzed me. It was like I was being, like, waterboarded with your eye, with your blinking.

[Rico]

There was a clip someone clipped out and tweeted from a show. Like, three or four weeks.

[Dan]

Yes.

[Rico]

Morse code. Rico blinks maybe 500,000 times. That's when I had a real. That was. I'll find. Real bad. It was close. The eyes were closed. Closing. I had, like, an infection.

[Dave]

What you were doing just now was real bad. Like, I. I.

[Dan]

Okay, so, Trey, you.

[Dave]

You're still doing it, you know, Put.

[Rico]

Those glasses back on.

[Dave]

I can't concentrate without you wearing glasses.

[Rico]

Blinking a normal amount. I feel like.

[Dave]

No, you're not.

[Dan]

Put them on, Trey, as a contact person, because Dave and I are not contact people. That's just that. You've never heard of that.

[Dave]

Yeah, I've worn them literally every day since eighth grade. And I probably, like, maybe a couple times have forgotten, like, falling asleep. But never more than one night, like, and one night you're like, oh, I up.

[Dan]

That's crazy. All right, thank you, Trey. Oh, my God.

[Dave]

To sit there with that level of blinking and not think something is wrong.

[Rico]

Keep them on.

[Dave]

I don't.

[Rico]

I got adjusted to the lights.

[Dave]

Well, I can't do the show.

[Dan]

The blinking is. But the. In defense of the blinking, you're blinking.

[Dave]

Right now, like, as you're doing it.

[Dan]

Rico, I'll say this. You're blinking so much, people aren't going to notice the herpe on your lip.

[Rico]

No, that's a zit, dude. What do you want me to say?

[Dave]

I can't see that.

[Rico]

It's a cut, dude. You get a cut.

[Dan]

Everyone is it or a cut.

[Rico]

So I don't know. So it turned into a cut.

[Dave]

Are we. No one's answered. Can we edit a lot? Like, can we get. I want somebody to watch.

[Rico]

Yeah, we have all the.

[Dan]

Yeah, yeah, we'll have it.

[Rico]

Somebody will do it.

[Dan]

No, but, like, I'm not gonna be able to pull it right now. No, no. Oh, you want it right now?

[Dave]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I was asking.

[Dan]

No, we'll have to.

[Rico]

I sent you the clip and the pick them tights right now from a few weeks ago. It's a little blurry, but you can see kind of the same.

[Dan]

Same situation.

[Rico]

Yeah, that's why he's wearing glasses in this. Yeah, that's because my eyes were bothering me. I had to take them out.

[Dave]

That's what you're doing.

[Dan]

It's.

[Dave]

That's what you're doing. You see, dude, you figure it out. Take those. Like, what is wrong with you?

[Rico]

All right, I'll take them out.

[Dan]

You see those on?

[Rico]

It's not that bad.

[Dave]

It was bad. What about this clip?

[Rico]

That clip's horror. Horrendous.

[Dan]

Wait, but you just keep saying your eyes are bothering you. Why? Like, you know why your eyes are bothering you.

[Rico]

Yeah, I know.

[Dan]

So when you put your glasses on, do you take your contacts out?

[Rico]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Rico]

Yeah, well, I.

[Dave]

Why you, apparently. No. Yeah, you're the bad boy at contacts. You don't follow the rules.

[Dan]

There are no rules for you.

[Dave]

Zero.

[Rico]

None.

[Dan]

All right. Well, I don't even know where we were in the show. Oh, I guess.

[Dave]

I guess now I'm locked in on.

[Rico]

Every time he blinks.

[Dave]

Even if glasses back a normal blink or not. No, I can't.

[Rico]

Takes a little while.

[Dave]

I can't do content with you until. Unless you're wearing those.

[Rico]

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[Dan]

Any thoughts on the College Football Playoff? The coordinated attack against Indiana I thought was disgusting.

[Dave]

I thought it was laugh out loud what they're trying to do for Ohio giving them basically a buy to like the Final Four.

[Dan]

Oh, the the actual bracket. What it looks like right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was very clear that Greg Sankey got on the call, got on the phone on Sunday and told everyone in the media hey, say Indiana sucks. And that's what they did. And they. The thing I don't understand, what are you looking for?

[Rico]

I'm looking at the newest bracket.

[Dan]

The thing I don't understand.

[Rico]

Boise has a buy.

[Dan]

Yeah. The Big 12 could be left out of the College Football Playoff. Now it would probably be crazy to happen.

[Rico]

How's that possible? Don't they get the automatic bid?

[Dan]

No, it's the top five conferences. So the if two lane if Boise wins out and to an army beats Notre Dame and wins out army will be ahead of the Big 12 champ most likely.

[Rico]

Wow.

[Dan]

So it could be Army.

[Rico]

That's crazy boys.

[Dan]

You can get a buy army in it.

[Dave]

I don't think they're winning.

[Rico]

I thought the four conferences get a.

[Dan]

Buy no, it's the top. Top five conferences get an automatic bid.

[Rico]

Okay.

[Dan]

Top four get a buy.

[Rico]

Got it. So Boise now, conference champion. Okay, interesting.

[Dan]

It's the highest ranked conference champion.

[Rico]

Got it.

[Dan]

So, like, if army, let's say Tulane one year, decided to schedule the hardest schedule ever and they went undefeated, they would get a buy.

[Rico]

Got it.

[Dan]

Because they'd be ranked really high.

[Rico]

Wow, that's crazy.

[Dan]

Yeah. So. And there's chaos. The Big 12 just eats itself alive. We saw it with Kansas. We saw. We saw it.

[Rico]

Arizona State still alive over there, by the way.

[Dan]

Shout out. He's a big stoolie. Kenny Dillingham.

[Dave]

Dave, who's Kenny Dilling?

[Dan]

He's their coach. He's fucking awesome. He's like in his 30s.

[Dave]

He's of Arizona State.

[Dan]

Yeah, he's from. He's from Tempe. He's like, you know, he's all about the Valley. He's got them juiced up like.

[Dave]

He was having a great season.

[Dan]

He was at Florida State when I was doing Doug's in 2020, and he. And he, like, hit me up and he. He's gonna let PFT trial for kicking next year in this, in the summer. But, yeah, they're having a great season. Colorado obviously has everything in front of the front of them. I got the hiccups ticket from here.

[Rico]

Yeah.

[Dave]

And you're. You're Travis Hunter.

[Rico]

Oh, that's every.

[Dave]

The last two weeks have broke perfectly for you.

[Dan]

Perfectly.

[Rico]

So real quick, you got a tough spot now. I think they have Kansas this week.

[Dan]

They have Kansas this week. Real quick. So I have. I mean, we talked about. On every show I've talked Travis Hunter, 40 to 1 to win 200 grand. If I win that, I will. I will still be having the worst college football season of my life. Do I hedge? And is the hedge just Kansas? Because there's a possibility if I hedge with Kansas.

[Dave]

No, no, but hold on.

[Dan]

Hear me out. Hear me out, Dave. If I bet Kansas this week, there's a possibility I could. I could win the Kansas bet and still win the Heisman. Now, obviously, if they beat Kansas, there's a way better chance for him to win the Heisman because he'll be playing on championship Saturday. But I'm not thinking about hedging on Genty because then I obviously can't win both. But if I bet Kansas this week and Kansas. So you lose.

[Dave]

You lose. If Colorado wins a very low scoring game, that's where you fuck it.

[Dan]

No, but low scoring game could help because that means his defense was good.

[Dave]

Yeah, but he needs more than he needs like, an interception. Like, just not being thrown at. I don't think helps you.

[Dan]

I think. No, but I think if Colorado wins, he's. And I'll. Knock on wood. I think if Colorado wins, he's going to win the Heisman because he'll play on championship Saturday. Whereas if he doesn't play on championship Saturday and Genti plays and Gabriel plays and Cam Ward plays, I'm in a tough spot.

[Dave]

All those games. Yeah, but if he plays on championship Saturday and they lose by 20, that's bad.

[Dan]

Agreed. But I also think, like, no one.

[Dave]

In the Big 12 who can do that well.

[Dan]

And also, like, I, I think he'll. I think Colorado's deep. Like, I don't think Colorado lose by 20, but I. I also think he'll just get stats no matter. Like, he'll play all the snaps and it will be just another like, holy shit. He played all the snaps all the way through. You know, he missed one game. I don't know. That was my only. That was my only thought of hedging. Would you hedge it all on. On Genty?

[Dave]

I want to hedge. No, you're down. Like, you can't afford a hedge.

[Dan]

Yeah, you're right. I can't afford a hedge. That's true. I just ride it.

[Rico]

I think you should just ride it.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Dave]

It's a great pick.

[Dan]

I'll just ride it. I'll ride it. Well, it's not a great pick unless I mean that. This is my.

[Dave]

It is a great pick even if you don't win it.

[Dan]

But this is the history of what I do.

[Dave]

Yeah, I make great.

[Dan]

I make great picks that don't win.

[Rico]

The Steelers that year that went 11 0.

[Dan]

The Eagles.

[Dave]

There's a gambling show in host college. I'm having visions of a 1.5 to $2 million bet on the Lions at their plus 350. I think. I think they've separated. I think they're way better than everybody else. My only issue. I don't know why I do. I don't know how much lower it can go. And obviously you're at the risk of injuries for rest of the way, but I think they've separated.

[Dan]

Yeah, I mean, I agree. And especially if they get the one seed. It will go lower if they get the one seed.

[Dave]

Yeah, because.

[Dan]

Because that's a buy. And also, like, they're so good at home. They're so fucking good.

[Dave]

So I think they're gonna have the one seed all the way through. I think they're gonna definitely be in the super bowl. And I think they're the. I like the Chiefs. I don't. I just think they're the best team by mile.

[Dan]

Yeah. I mean it's, it's not at plus money. If they get the one seed, it's not a bad pick because it's. You would have a situation in the super bowl where you would like. They would probably be favorites in the super bowl. And if they get the one seed who, who scares you? I guess maybe the. That's maybe the packers just because they know each other well.

[Rico]

Division.

[Dave]

Nobody scares me. That's to make that level of bet. Nobody would scare me. I don't know they can do it but I start thinking about it.

[Dan]

The Eagles, obviously the Eagles would, would, would be NFC championship game. So that's just one. Like they're. To me, I like that instead of going AFC because you have two teams in the nfc, it feels like Bills and the Chiefs. No, no, the. No in the nfc. The Lions and the.

[Dave]

Oh, I thought you said afc.

[Dan]

Afc. I think there's four or five teams, maybe six teams.

[Rico]

Afc.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Dan]

You still have the Texans, right?

[Dave]

I have the Texans, but I have.

[Rico]

No faith in them. I have no faith in the Texans.

[Dave]

As well unless they're going to have a drastic turnaround.

[Dan]

Yeah, their offensive line is tough. Last thing before we get to the games. Rico, you had a two point conversion thing. I always love whenever you throw out a two point conversion thing. Let's hear it. Yeah, these are my.

[Rico]

Thought about it. Thought about it.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Rico]

There was eight minutes left when the Bills scored to make it a three point game or a nine point game.

[Dan]

What?

[Dave]

No start over because I'm already lost.

[Dan]

I'm already lost.

[Rico]

When the Bills scored, they made it 23 to 20 on the extra point.

[Dan]

21, 21. They were up 2.

[Rico]

Yeah, they made it. Right. So the extra point would have cut it to a one point game.

[Dan]

Talking to the mic.

[Rico]

The extra point would have cut it to a one point game. I think I'm saying.

[Dan]

No.

[Rico]

No, the extra point made it three.

[Dan]

No, the extra point made it two.

[Rico]

No, I think the extra point made it three.

[Dan]

Let me find it. Pretty sure it made it to. You might. No, I think it made it to. The final score was 30 to 21. So the Bills. The score was when The Bills scored two.

[Rico]

Okay. Yes, it was 16.

[Dan]

No, 16, 14 when they scored. So they. It made the extra point. Made it 2314.

[Rico]

And then the. And then the chief score makes it 23, 21. 21. So it was 2320 before the extra point.

[Dan]

For the Chiefs.

[Rico]

For the Chiefs. What did I say?

[Dan]

The bill.

[Rico]

Oh, I apologize. The Chiefs. 23:20. Okay, 23:20.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Rico]

Go for one, you make it a two point game. If you go for two there, there are. There is eight minutes left. If you go for 2 there, you cut it to a one point game. And if the Bills come back and score a touchdown, it's still a one possession game at eight. I thought about miss it then.

[Dave]

It's a field goal. You leave it on a field goal.

[Rico]

Field goal would still. The field goal would still tie. But yeah, it was. It was just the fact that there was eight minutes left and I thought the Bills could score a touchdown. So that's where I was leaving it.

[Dan]

Yeah, but you wouldn't want to.

[Rico]

You wouldn't want to take away the field goal to win the game. I agree with that.

[Dan]

Or to. To no tie. To tie.

[Rico]

No, in this case it would have been field goal to win.

[Dan]

No, it would have been field goal to. To tie. If you don't get the.

[Rico]

If you don't get it. Yeah, right.

[Dan]

Right. But if you do get the extra point, it's still field goal to win.

[Rico]

Yes.

[Dan]

Because you're down two.

[Rico]

Yes. But you can allow a touchdown and still be a one possession game. Like the case where the Bills came all the way back and scored that touchdown with two and a half minutes or three minutes. That wouldn't have ended the game. That was my point. They made it nine instead of making it eight. If you do the two my way. It's a thought.

[Dan]

Yeah, I think you would.

[Rico]

It's not a locked in.

[Dan]

I think you'd rather have field goal to win though.

[Dave]

100.

[Rico]

Yeah, that's why it's. It's just a thought. There was eight minutes. Like I love when you're gonna come back and score.

[Dan]

You're two point savant.

[Rico]

I've tried it.

[Dave]

Yeah. That's basically the biggest slap in the face. Your defense being like they're just gonna come down and score a touchdown.

[Dan]

Right?

[Rico]

Not necessarily. It's just you're hedging your bets. If you do allow a touchdown, you could still win the game. You still tie the game.

[Dave]

Yeah. On that three number.

[Rico]

Yeah. Yeah. Thought about it, that's all. I wasn't locked into it, but I thought about it. Okay, throw it out there.

[Dan]

Are you a gopher when you're up, when you score a touchdown to go up seven or you go for two to make it nine?

[Rico]

Little bit.

[Dan]

That's crazy to me.

[Dave]

I wait say that again.

[Dan]

When you when you if you score a touchdown to go up seven and you can either kick the extra point to go up eight or go for two and that's crazy.

[Dave]

I don't even like I'm an old school I don't even like and I know Dan, you like it. I don't like the 24 twice because your odds are you get it once.

[Dan]

I hate that I like that one. But yeah, the the go for two to go up nine. I I think you'd rather just guarantee.

[Dave]

You go up give yourself two an extra play to win the game.

[Dan]

Yeah, you're sivant try to be yeah. Okay.

[Rico]

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[Dan]

Let's get to the games. Let's hit the games. Good slate. Last Saturday was not a great slate. This one is a good slate. I'll, you know, I'll save the big game for last. Let's start with Ole Miss at Florida. Florida plus 10 and a half over under 55 and a half. I'll start with this one. I'm going to take Florida plus ten and a half simply because I think we spend all this time every single year debating all these records and debating all these games and usually it works out and it wouldn't shock me if Florida wins this game and we spent all that, you know, energy talking about Ole Miss and Florida somehow won this Game.

[Dave]

I'm sorry, I'm getting distracted, but I got a less. Are you on this text I got, or is this just from Austin? Let me. I got.

[Dan]

What is it? Oh, no, Austin just said it. Yeah, less blurry. Look at it.

[Dave]

Look it.

[Dan]

Okay, I'm gonna look at it.

[Rico]

I'm not on that text. Oh, maybe it's insane. Oh, now I am. Yeah, that's when I had, like. It was really bad. That's when it was really, really bad. So I guess it's back to the really bad.

[Dan]

This is Morse code. This is like the. You ever seen that? The. The pow. And.

[Rico]

Yeah.

[Dan]

In Vietnam, who. They. They were like, we want you to send a message saying everything's okay. And he blinks Morse code saying, I'm. I'm not okay. Come save me.

[Dave]

It's crazy, man.

[Dan]

Anyways, is Odyssey watching this being like.

[Dave]

No, I like Florida. I think they turned a corner. They obviously. They won last week, right? They beat lsu.

[Dan]

They beat lsu.

[Rico]

Beat lsu.

[Dan]

Brian Kelly's a loser.

[Dave]

Worst coach. I would never go there if I was a quarterback or any player recruit. The. The school, the programs in disarray. You don't know what's happening next. Florida turn the corner. Playing a little bit tougher. I'm a little leery by Dan, your pick. Because when I took Florida, I'm like, I think this could be an old Ms. Blowout. That look back, and I'm like, what? And the fact you took Florida like I did makes me a little nervous.

[Dan]

Florida's playing well, DJ lad. Playing well.

[Dave]

Yeah, I take Florida.

[Dan]

Okay. That. That. I mean, like, that's one of those situations where they were dead to rights to start the season.

[Dave]

They were.

[Dan]

You got to just like, they were.

[Rico]

Predicted to have the worst schedule. Yeah.

[Dan]

Yeah. You got to readjust your. Your thinking when. When the season gets going and, like, how they're playing currently. What do you got?

[Rico]

I'm gonna take the under. I think defense travels. I like Ole Miss's defense. It's the best unit on the field. I think it travels. They'll keep it ugly and keep it low scoring. I do think. I do think Florida is going to be in the game. They're better than they. They were. I had Florida. I was one of the guys of Florida. Like, they're going to be awful, brutal schedule. They're not going to get to a bowl game. They're flirting with a bowl game now if they steal this one.

[Dan]

So. Yeah.

[Rico]

And they're actually. I shouldn't say that they're going to Be to Florida State and get to a bowl game. So they'll be okay.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Rico]

But yeah, they were flirting with their win total. Got all the way down to four and a half. I don't think they're as bad as people say. I take the under.

[Dan]

Okay, Ole Miss defense, next game.

[Dave]

What is the total in that?

[Rico]

55 and a half.

[Dan]

And a half.

[Dave]

Give me the under. I like that pick.

[Dan]

You know what? Give me the under two. I like that pick. Rico's the hottest one here. BYU at Arizona State. Arizona State minus three. Over. Under is 48 and a half.

[Rico]

I forks up.

[Dan]

I said it last week. I was like, I think BYU could lose two games of their final three last week. They obviously lost their first game. I think Arizona State minus three. And the chaos continues in the Big 12.

[Rico]

Yeah, I think they're dialed in. Give me Arizona State, Dave.

[Dave]

Sweep, sweep. I'm taking Arizona State because Arizona State pass.

[Dan]

PFT is competitive. Okay, next up. This is the big one. One of the big ones, Kansas, Colorado. Kansas is another one of those teams that if you think Kansas is just a four win team, you haven't been watching football because they have played a lot better. They're, they're, they're just. I mean, they're slaying everyone in the Big 12 the last couple of weeks. Kansas is plus two and a half at home against Colorado. Over. Under is 59 and a half. Dave, I'll start with you.

[Dave]

I hate the game. I want to root for Dion. So I'll take Colorado. It's not a real live bullet game for me. I will give myself credit. I kind of got laughed out. I was digging up old tweets of mine when I said how good Shador was. And I like guys like Bram Walker. Like, he's not. He is so good. Like, I. He is going to be an NFL star. He's just perfect for the NFL. I'll take Colorado here. I love Dion. I love the story. So I hope they keep rolling.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Rico]

Over, Over. Yeah.

[Dan]

Okay. I'm gonna. I. You guys talk me out of the hedge. I'm gonna just roll with Colorado. No hedge roll with Colorado. They need to win this game. This is a very, very. There's a massive game because I think they're kind of on tiebreakers. So if they catch another loss, I think they're.

[Rico]

Well, that's where it gets weird in the weeds with these conferences. Like Colorado has not played.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Rico]

Any of the three teams in the race.

[Dan]

Correct.

[Rico]

There's no head to head data points. That's where they. Super confident with the sec, like they're all going to finish at two losses or one loss and they're all going to be like, well, we beat them, but they beat us and this and that. That's where the super conferences have gone down a little bit. I love the Big 12. Back when it was the old round robin and you got. At least you got everybody playing each other now it's. That's.

[Dan]

Carl did play Kansas State. Are you saying Carl hasn't played Arizona State? Byu?

[Rico]

Yes. Or Iowa State. They didn't play any of the top three.

[Dan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Rico]

Because Kansas State's not in the top three.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Rico]

I mean, they're tied or whatever, but I'm giving you straight down the list. And they didn't play any of them. So that's where these super conferences. That's the downfall of it.

[Dan]

Yeah, I had.

[Dave]

I had a fortuitous. I bet Colorado twice by accident last week. That's the best. Oh, scrolling through, I'm like, fuck. I bet him twice minus 11. And it was one of my only winners. So thank God.

[Dan]

Yeah. That is. There's no better feeling. Okay, next game. This is a very important game. Notre Dame. Army at Yankee Stadium. Notre Dame is minus 14 and a half over. Under is 44 and a half. Dave.

[Dave]

I have Notre Dame written down in. Something's changing in my mind that. And maybe it's because they beat Navy by a thousand, but maybe Army's better than Navy. Yankee Stadium. You know what? I'm gonna take Army. I. I think they're gonna muck this game up. I'm gonna take Army. This. Because this line to me, based on what they did to Navy should be like 28, 25, 21, 14. Give me army. I'm an army man.

[Dan]

Okay, Rico.

[Rico]

I'll take the Irish based on what they did to Navy. Yeah, I'll take the Irish.

[Dave]

Exactly.

[Rico]

Yeah, take the Irish.

[Dave]

Exactly.

[Dan]

The Navy. The army uniforms are awesome for Army. Navy this year.

[Dave]

I saw that. Sick.

[Dan]

Yeah. So sick. All right, I'm going to take army as well. Last game. I'm on Army. The last game, Indiana plus 13 and a half at Ohio State over under 51 and a half. I don't know what to make of this game. I think I'm going to bet Indiana with my heart and hope they can keep it close because I want to see Indiana. They're having an incredible year. Like, when did we stop rooting for underdogs in this country? I don't get it. I don't get it. We're just trying to take down the underdog. Great story. I love it. I want Indiana in the playoff. I think if they get a close loss here, they will still be in the playoff. I'm going to take Indiana plus 13 and a half.

[Rico]

I will as well. I think it's. Listen, you saw what State Penn did to them. They were in that game. I think Indiana is comparable to State Pen. Big story. I think they stay in the game.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Rico]

I worry that Ohio State, this is where they flex their muscle. But I'll take Indiana because I'm also kind of rooting for Indiana to say in that race as well.

[Dan]

Yeah, okay, Dave.

[Dave]

I'm going to be studying this game. I think Ohio State is going to kill him. So I'm taking Ohio State. If I'm wrong and Indiana's can match up, I'm going to start thinking Michigan can beat Ohio State because Michigan just bullied Indiana. They fell behind early, but by halftime they should have won that. They dominated in the end. Like they should have won the game. So if Ohio State struggles Indiana, I'm going to perk up come Thanksgiving weekend. I think Ohio State's going to kill him, though.

[Dan]

Imagine if Michigan beat Ohio State this year.

[Rico]

Unbelievable.

[Dave]

That would happen. They're cowards.

[Dan]

That would be. I mean, that would.

[Dave]

But the thing about it, it really doesn't matter. Like if Ohio State wins this game and Michigan beats them, I think they're still going.

[Dan]

No, it would be tougher because it would be Penn State in the Big Ten championship.

[Dave]

So the only way it matters is if we knock them out. If we beat them and they just keep go. Who care? That's what the playoff changes.

[Dan]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Dave]

I. I mean, it'd be nice to. But like Ohio State fans, I guess they care, but they wouldn't care if they lose to us. Go win the national championship. They'd be like, whatever. We win the national championship. If they lose to us, don't make it and we stink.

[Rico]

Different story.

[Dan]

So you kind of Indiana winning this game and then Michigan beating Ohio State would 100% knock him out.

[Rico]

Out.

[Dave]

Yes. Because that'd be three losses.

[Dan]

Yeah. Did you see I said this on PMT? But you'll get a kick out of this, Dave. So McShay and Rosillo, like, when basically were like, Indiana's played nobody, which is not wrong. On their podcast on Monday and they had a clip. And then the Indiana Twitter army, this guy posted a text thread where he was like, hey, we need to get Dan Dakotch involved In this sec fight.

[Rico]

Oh, Jesus.

[Dan]

Let's bring out the big guns. So one, one of the guys, quote treated Rossillo McShay's clip and said, hey doc, it's the west coast. California liberals are trying to steal another election. Handing out a participation trophy to a two loss sec team is utter woke nonsense. Do some nonsense. Do something. Like five minutes later, Docich quote tweeted the exact same tweet, the exact same clip of McShane Rosilla and said dudes that never were in a locker room other than to take a peek, get an autograph or take a picture.

[Dave]

Whoever wrote that original text to dockage or whatever was a text or.

[Dan]

No, it was like a bunch of Indiana dudes conspiring on a text message. Then one of them quote, tweeted it and was like, quote tweeted McShay and Priscilla being like, hey doc, it's get in this. Yeah, but who wrote the woke one of like Indiana burner account? Chris Duplant.

[Dave]

Like, like that guy has an open invitation for a job. Like, that's a brilliantly written. Very funny. So whoever that guy is, I don't know what he's doing in his life, but like, if he wants to work here, I'll talk to him. I won't guarantee it, but I will talk. That. That's genius.

[Rico]

It's so funny, especially to get dage involved in nut job.

[Dave]

Well, that's the whole point, Rico.

[Rico]

Okay.

[Dan]

All right. I'm following him now, so we'll see what he says when he hears this.

[Dave]

What do you mean? To get dark. That's the whole point. Like that. That's. Yeah.

[Rico]

The way he wrote it to the.

[Dave]

Yeah, I get it to dockage because he knows docic is a nut. Yeah. It's all.

[Rico]

It's the same. I know. Yeah, right?

[Dan]

Yeah. One of his retweets is makes you.

[Dave]

Who is this guy? What's his name?

[Dan]

Chris Duplant.

[Dave]

Chris the plant. This guy Chris the plant is going to be like, what the hell? Chris d plant. Like d d a plant. Oh, Chris Duplant.

[Dan]

I like this guy. He's funny. Oh, man. Yeah, he got docic involved. He got dockage ready to go. That's just weaponizing docic. He always cc's sage steel as well.

[Dave]

This pin tweet is pretty funny.

[Dan]

Yeah. Oh, with Nate oats. Yeah, he's like Nate oats.

[Rico]

What's it say?

[Dan]

Nothing.

[Rico]

Let me see this guy.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Rico]

Chris the plant.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Rico]

Who is this clown?

[Dan]

It's pin tweet is me. You Better not transfer centuries of pain and suffering into my soul via a single glance. And then it's just Nate Oats and he's just staring weirdly into the camera.

[Dave]

Oh, Chris. No, Chris the Plant.

[Rico]

Oh, man, he just looked at the camera. What do you want him to do?

[Dan]

Okay.

[Rico]

Bama took a loss Friday night too.

[Dan]

Yeah, what happened? Eleven deep.

[Rico]

Yeah, I know we didn't hit threes in the first half. I got Max and Jack texting me. Yeah.

[Dave]

I mean, this guy's funny.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Standing back and standing by. Hashtag stop the steel utter woke sec.

[Dan]

And the so Rico busco.

[Rico]

Yeah, that's what pretty good hashtag is.

[Dan]

So how's that? How you feeling?

[Rico]

We got a big one tonight. We got Illinois tonight, in Birmingham tonight. Now they're eight and a half point favorite. They'll be fine.

[Dan]

Tonight they go 11 deep.

[Rico]

Yeah, they're deep.

[Dan]

Rico might not love. Dave, our texts with MB last week or yesterday about planning for the Final Four. I was thinking about that.

[Dave]

Yeah, Well, I was even thinking more. I was like, do we even have to be there? Like, but. And I thought about the bet. Yeah, I know. It's.

[Rico]

What was the point?

[Dave]

So convoluted. Well, it's not on you. It's. It's in a non gambling state.

[Dan]

Yeah. So Texas is a non gambling state. So we were planning out the Final four. Our plan is we don't. We don't have to go there for five days like we usually do. So the plan is we're gonna go Friday, do a live rundown, the three of us, a big three. Saturday, we'll do a show before the Final Four and then leave.

[Rico]

Okay.

[Dan]

So. And Monday we're gonna do the championship game watch party at DraftKings sportsbook in Wrigleyville.

[Rico]

Okay.

[Dan]

So what happens if Alabama's in the championship game?

[Rico]

We should have put these stipulations in the bet.

[Dave]

I mean, you can't bet. I mean, what are we going to do? Not bet.

[Rico]

No, you're right. I don't know. Yeah, I would like to be there for the victory party.

[Dan]

Right.

[Rico]

Hug him on the court.

[Dave]

If they're in it, he can stay.

[Dan]

Yeah, I don't.

[Rico]

Yeah, but he.

[Dan]

But I. I don't think. But I think him staying is like. It's half him staying him and. But it's also half him. He wants to win it in our face.

[Dave]

Yeah, he's going to be there.

[Rico]

Yeah.

[Dave]

I don't know what to do. I mean, the only way to do it would be to somehow it seems Unrealistic. I don't know what the closest state, whether you can get to like, Louisiana. Put the bets in, go back. I don't know. It's crazy that. Just everywhere. You should be able to bet. I'm struggling with it here in Florida.

[Rico]

What about I get to go to the parade since I won't be there when they're cutting down the nets?

[Dan]

Yeah, you can go to the parade.

[Rico]

All right.

[Dave]

How far is San Anton? Let me look at a map.

[Dan]

No, it's far.

[Dave]

Fuck.

[Dan]

Yeah. I mean, it sucks. If this was a Final four in Indianapolis, this is a Final Four in Louisiana. If this was a Final four in Arizona, we would, we would stay. But like, you can't.

[Rico]

You're not going to stay for the game Saturday.

[Dan]

I might stay for the game Saturday. I might also just get on a plane and go home.

[Rico]

Okay.

[Dan]

I haven't decided, but it's just like what, like. And also that Monday, like, it's basically staying in San Antonio for two extra days.

[Rico]

No, I agree with that. I don't be able to get out of there Sunday, first thing in the morning.

[Dan]

Yeah, this wouldn't even be an option. If we were in a game state, we'd stay. But it's. It's hard to do a show and talk about betting the game when we can't bet the game.

[Rico]

You have to have bet it. Yeah, right.

[Dan]

And you don't. You can't have bet it because we're going to get to San Antonio Friday and.

[Rico]

Well, the line after Sunday would be out on Monday. Right, but then you can't bet.

[Dan]

We won't be in a state that you can bet.

[Rico]

You can. No, the, the final four is decided Sunday of Elite eight. Sunday. Then the lines would be out Monday. You have a couple of days.

[Dan]

Yeah, like I'm going to bet it before I go to. Of course. But then you can't re. Bet the Monday night game in Texas. Yeah.

[Rico]

And I agree the stream would be electric. I mean, it would be great to be there to cut down the nets.

[Dan]

But I mean, this isn't even going to be a issue because he's going to have to bus.

[Rico]

That would be 40. I didn't realize that was so 40 hours to maybe spend that you did.

[Dave]

Because 40 hours was said. We said.

[Rico]

No, I, No, I know that. But the spend 40 hours in San Antonio is a little crazy too.

[Dan]

Yeah, I. You could stay on Sunday.

[Rico]

Yeah, I mean, I'm getting there Thursday night.

[Dan]

You could stay on Sunday to do your, like, you know, your, your brunches. With all the coaches. Yeah. You just got to be at the stream on Monday.

[Rico]

Yeah. In.

[Dan]

Yeah. So you could be there for more than 40 hours.

[Dave]

It is sucks. That's not gambling state.

[Dan]

It really does sucks.

[Rico]

And they're not close, right?

[Dan]

No. Next year is indie.

[Rico]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So we'll be fine. This won't be an issue.

[Rico]

Next year is Easter Sunday. Oh, really? Yep.

[Dan]

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[Dan]

You absolutely can go to the parade if they win it all.

[Rico]

All right.

[Dan]

You should make a video. Put. Put a GoPro.

[Rico]

It's all. It's all things.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Rico]

Considered.

[Dan]

Yeah. Will you be invited?

[Rico]

I think I'd get a ring.

[Dave]

Nope.

[Dan]

Really?

[Rico]

20%. I think I would get a ring.

[Dan]

You get a ring?

[Rico]

Yeah. Wow.

[Dan]

That would be awesome.

[Rico]

Be sick.

[Dave]

No shot.

[Dan]

I can't wait.

[Rico]

Shot.

[Dave]

You get a ring.

[Dan]

Feast week. Favorite week of the year.

[Rico]

It's unbelievable.

[Dan]

It's the best. Oh, what is that? Jack.

[Rico]

Jack's doing 0% chance he's getting invited for. For anything. He's gonna be.

[Dave]

I actually thought I heard a zero in my headset. I could. I guess. Jack. Jack blurted.

[Rico]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Zero.

[Rico]

I did. Sorry. Yeah.

[Dan]

All right, Rico, give us your card.

[Rico]

All right. SMU -10 BC UNC over 56 and a half. Wake plus 25 and a half. I think they keep it close against Miami. Texas Tech minus three and a half. Arizona State minus three. Louisville Pit over 57 and a half. And I got a mortal.

[Dan]

Okay, Dave.

[Dave]

That's your big card.

[Dan]

Yeah. You got to attack it, Dave. I'm already. I'm out of this. You gotta. You gotta.

[Rico]

I got eight. Eight. Plus the games that we picked. That's like 13, 14. I've been doing four or five trying.

[Dave]

To get the Syracuse, Yukon, Syracuse over 54 and a half. SMU Virginia, Virginia plus nine and a half. North Carolina, Boston College, BC minus three. Florida plus 10 and a half against Ole Miss. And the under. I gave that out. Ohio State minus 13 and a half already said that. Rutgers PL1 at home against Illinois. Texas Tech minus three and a half at Oklahoma State over 67 and a half. Michigan minus 10 and a half against Northwestern at home and take Wisconsin plus two and a half. Nebraska, Nebraska just always loses. Bull.

[Dan]

That's the, that's the Bull eligibility bowl.

[Dave]

Me and Will Compton ASU minus three home BYU over 48 and a half. Colorado plus two and a half. Are they plus two and a half against Kansas?

[Dan]

Yeah, they're minus two and a half.

[Dave]

They're minus two and a half. All right, so Colorado minus two and a half against Kansas. Army plus 14 and a half. Nor Dame Bama minus 13 and a half against Oklahoma. A M minus two and a half at Auburn. Vandy plus seven and a half at LSU. Kansas State minus eight and a half at home against Cincy over 52 and a half. Duke plus three and a half at home. Virginia Tech UCLA plus four and a half at home over 51.

[Dan]

Okay, I'm going to add to my.

[Dave]

So I, I, I made a run. Those are two big cards.

[Dan]

That's a huge card. I'm gonna, I'm gonna add a lot to my card, but I have just to start Minnesota + 11 and a half at home against Penn State. I think that's going to be an ugly game. Tough game, maybe a trip up game. I don't know. This is where like the chaos theory comes in. I also, I'm going to get personal revenge. San Jose State plus seven and a half at home against unlv. I'm going to chase that.

[Rico]

No, touch that one.

[Dan]

No, no. Dave, bad idea.

[Dave]

I can't, I can't get involved in that one.

[Rico]

I got, Saw it.

[Dave]

I saw it. I, I can't get involved.

[Dan]

I got Washington State, Oregon State over 56. And then I'll start with my mortal. My mortal is going to be army minus or sorry. Notre Dame minus 14 and a half. Okay, I think they're going to pound them.

[Dave]

You gave army or.

[Dan]

No, I gave.

[Dave]

I knew you said it incorrectly.

[Dan]

Yeah, I said it incorrectly right there. But I gave Notre Dame earlier.

[Dave]

No, you didn't. You gave Army.

[Dan]

I did. Yeah, I said it incorrectly. My bad.

[Dave]

I knew the way you said it. You're like, I knew Something was off.

[Dan]

Okay. Notre Dame is my pick. It's my mortal. Minus 14 and a half. That's my fuck up. Hank, you guys are all on Notre Dame, right?

[Dave]

No, dude, no, I'm on Army.

[Dan]

I think I'm.

[Rico]

I.

[Dan]

My mortar was gonna be Notre Dame. I think I'm gonna switch it to army because of me. Thank you, Hank.

[Dave]

Looks like he's out in Wyoming.

[Dan]

It's fleece season. I'll take Notre Dame. Take Notre Dame. No. Go in.

[Rico]

That was.

[Dan]

No, that was. That was. That was before I heard anything. That was what I like the most. So I'm gonna stick with Notre Dame. Should kill him. Yeah, kill him. But I do think that other game is influencing all of us, the Navy.

[Dave]

Yeah, yeah, agreed.

[Dan]

Yeah, probably a little, but I just.

[Rico]

Think that's how you defend the option, though.

[Dan]

Notre Dame, they. They're ready. They defended the option once. They could do it again, but then.

[Dave]

The line should be like 21 or 28.

[Dan]

Yeah, they scored. What was the original line? Army? Navy? No, it was lower.

[Rico]

I think it was 11.

[Dan]

It might have been Navy. Notre Dame, you mean?

[Rico]

Yeah, that was like 11.

[Dan]

Yeah, it was under 14.

[Dave]

I bet.

[Dan]

I bet Navy. And they were down 14 nothing in two minutes.

[Dave]

Yeah, I had Notre Dame in that game, so it makes me think I'm seeing things, right?

[Dan]

Yeah, Mike. I had Notre Dame in that game as well. Zupy.

[Rico]

Texas a M -2 and a half against Auburn.

[Dan]

I don't like that, Mike. Elko. Did you guys see that clip?

[Rico]

Yeah. He didn't know who he was playing.

[Dan]

They were like, you know, the Texas. Texas A and M game got moved to the night. Like. Like, you guys haven't played each other in a long time. Are you thinking about that? And he was like, no, the focus is this week. This week only. We got to just be thinking about Texas. I mean, Auburn. He's like, fuck, man.

[Dave]

My brain does that, though. I do that a lot.

[Dan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dave]

So I can sympathize.

[Dan]

The thing that scares me about that game is Auburn is that team. Auburn is the, like, wreck shit team. Okay, Jack.

[Rico]

Sun Devils alma mater is going to roll.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Rico]

Oh, and Evo Miami Wake over 64 and a half.

[Dan]

Oh, add that to my card. Evo's so hot. 10 and 2, 10 and 2, 10 and 2.

[Rico]

Rico Bama minus 13 and a half. I think Oklahoma's bad. There is no rally of Oklahoma. I think Bama rolls them as a rider.

[Dan]

Add that to my card.

[Dave]

Dave Vandy plus seven and a half at LSU. LSU's in shambles. Sandy has proven to play everybody tough. I think this is another kind of like did Vandy play last week?

[Dan]

No.

[Dave]

I feel like they didn't know. Yeah. So coming off a bye, there's like a Super bowl game for them. All these games, it doesn't matter how the other team is. It's like you can go and beat LSU at lsu. As Vandy ever done that. They're the team that can do it this year. I think they win the game.

[Dan]

Yeah, I agree that the thinking is like LSU is one of those teams, those programs, even when they're down, everyone's got it. The little guys all circle it like, this is going to be incredible. Uh, okay. Good show, boys.

[Dave]

Next week, get those eyes fixed, Blinko.

[Rico]

All right, Blinko, I give you a call. Dave, I called you Monday.

[Dave]

What?

[Rico]

Can I give you a call right after this? Yeah. All right, Perfect.

[Dan]

All right, see you guys.

[Dave]

Bye.

[Dan]

Hold up.