Dave Portnoy Demands Apology Between Nemesis Employees | PICK EM - Week 13

Summary

Barstool Pick Em – Week 13: “Dave Portnoy Demands Apology Between Nemesis Employees”

Date: November 20, 2025
Hosts: Big Cat (Dan), Dave Portnoy (Pres), Rico Bosco, with appearances by Meek Phil and others

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Episode Overview

This lively Week 13 episode centers on college football, gambling picks, rankings controversy, and a very Barstool-style office squabble. Dave Portnoy demands an apology over a lost-and-found headphone incident between nemesis employees “Meek Phil” and Rico Bosco. The crew blends banter about office dynamics, the frustration of close gambling losses, insider college football talk, and satirical takes on the absurdities inside and outside Barstool. The picks and breakdowns are as energetic (and sometimes contentious) as ever, with no shortage of memes and memorable lines.

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Main Themes and Storylines

• Internal Barstool Drama: A lost headphones saga devolves (or evolves) into a demand for public apologies, highlighting workplace dynamics and comical pettiness.
• College Football Playoff Debates: The hosts dig into ranking logic, the value of head-to-head wins, and conference biases, voicing frustration at the playoff committee.
• Office Personalities and Annoyances: Self-awareness, ribbing, and acknowledgment of their own quirks—and those of co-workers—are front and center.
• Behind-the-Scenes of Sports Gambling Content: Strategy, "rider" culture, troupe hierarchies, and the hobnobbing between sports talk and actual betting.
• Real-World Absurdities Merging with the Barstool Universe: Cameos from Rider Army lieutenants, NIL money talk for DIII football, and satirical remedies for Barstool's “writer” army woes.

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Key Discussions, Insights & Memorable Quotes

I. Headphone Gate: The Case for an Apology

[02:24–15:55]

• Phil (“Meek Phil”) misplaces his headphones; Rico finds them, and a Barstool-wide debate unfolds on whether Phil was properly grateful.
• The group replays the incident, with Dave acting as judge and Dan providing comic relief.

Notable Quotes:

• Dave: “He owes Meek an apology. I hate to do it.” [05:21]
• Dan: “He is one of the most annoying guys we've got, bar none...He just goes and he doesn't stop.” [07:07]
• Rico: “I offered you my headphones and you screamed at me.” [09:45]
• Dave: “He saved your headphones and gave them back and did a gallant thing...a genuine, like, ‘thanks’ would go a long way.” [09:11]

Resolution: After much replaying, passive aggression, and lawyerly (and hilarious) negotiations, Phil mutters a second “thank you.”

• Phil: “I did say thanks. I took a breath to let all of that negative energy decompose and then did say thanks.” [09:26]

II. Rider Army, Internal Hierarchies, and Cameos for Cash

[15:00–25:45]

• The hosts discuss Barstool “Rider” culture: who is a true rider, who wants the spotlight, and what happens when riders are in financial hardship.
• Shocking reveal: Sully Soprano, self-styled “lieutenant,” has begun selling $100 Cameos to pay off debts. The crew is equal parts horrified and entertained.

Memorable Quotes:

• Phil: “Some of these guys want to be fans. My two most trusted guys don't want the spotlight...My top two guys have committed war crimes, I assume.” [17:35]
• Dan: (on Sully’s Cameo) “That’s how guys go to jail for a long time for RICO charges.” [19:49]
• Dave: “I can’t believe anybody would buy that...as a lieutenant in the Rider army.” [20:38]

Segment Highlight: The team listens to an actual Sully Soprano $100 Cameo, which is gloriously overdone with Mafia references and zealous Barstool loyalty:

• Sully Soprano: “Whatever the big man says goes, right? ... Jump, how high? Buy the merch, I gotta buy ten pairs of merch. Watch my show, I gotta watch the show ten times ... That’s the key.” [23:38–24:46]

III. College Football Playoff Rankings & Committee Logic

[29:40–34:50]

• Heated debate about the logic of rankings, using Miami and Notre Dame as examples. The group criticizes committee inconsistency, the use of eye test vs. head-to-head, and the need for clear standards.

Quotes:

• Phil: “They're rewarding teams for losses instead of wins.” [30:45]
• Dave: “If you have the same number of losses, like Notre Dame, I would put in over Miami. I think they're better fans right now.” [32:01]

IV. Big Game Picks & Gambling Banter

[36:54–71:41] (Key Games Interspersed; see timestamps)

• Lively breakdowns of Michigan–Maryland, Oklahoma–Missouri, USC–Oregon, Georgia Tech–Pitt, and more.
• Classic dissection of “dead fish coach” rumors, coaching drama (Lane Kiffin and buyout rumors), playoff tiebreaker musings, and the stresses of gambling mortal locks.

Choice Moments:

• Phil: “I lean Michigan here because I just don’t want...to take Maryland. I’m hoping you guys can use a pounding.” [36:54]
• Dan: “I’m gonna take the over in this game. That Michigan-Northwestern game was crazy to watch. Five turnovers and all those missed field goals.” [39:37]
• Dave: “Nothing’s jumped out at me. It’s the worst when you go down, it’s like I got nothing.” [71:00]

V. Personal Stakes, NIL, and Barstool as College Power Players

[55:40–59:48]

• Dan, Dave, and Rico dream up using NIL to buy a Division III football championship for Nichols College, with tongue-in-cheek “cartel” analogies.
• Queries about what it would cost; Rico floats a million, Dan and Dave cap it at $50k each for the lols.

Memorable Exchange:

• Dan: “What could buy Nichols a national championship?...If it’s not that expensive, it’d be one of the funniest storylines in Pick Em history. Dave, if we both threw in 50k.” [58:42–59:03]
• Dave: “I hope it’s like...I was thinking 50k...I was willing to pay 50.” [61:00]

VI. Cheerleading, College Sports Continuity, and Misplaced Office DMs

[72:02–76:55]

• Transition to debate over adult cheerleaders, NCAA versus NFL cheer squads, and some jesting at Dave’s expense over getting “thumbs-downed” in a DM by Jordan.
• Banter about betting on UNC and capricious relationships with college programs (e.g., Dan and Wisconsin's NIL).

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Notable Segments & Timestamps

• Headphone Apology Confrontation: [02:24–15:55]
• Sully Soprano Cameo & Rider Debts: [15:00–25:45]
• College Football Playoff Rankings Rant: [29:40–34:50]
• Big Game Picks and Picks Card: [36:54–71:41]
• NIL and D-III Title Scheme: [55:40–61:54]
• Final Banter (Cheerleading, DMs, Office Gossip): [72:02–76:55]

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The Barstool Tone & Takeaways

• Language is blunt, irreverent, and packed with inside jokes and minor profanity.
• Self-awareness is a running current—embracing the absurdities of their own universe.
• Office pettiness is played up for comedy and to reinforce the show’s "Barstool culture."
• Betting confidence is never matched by betting performance—hosts mock their own records.
• The gambling picks are numerous and often debated, with only half-serious confidence.
• Underlying warmth: Beneath the jabs, there’s real camaraderie—arguments end with laughter, and even the “apologies” come with a wink.

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Closing Quote

• Dan: “Alright. Good show boys.”
• Dave: “Alright, see you next week.”
• Phil: “Got a budget next week from Dudley.”

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Summary for New Listeners

If you missed the episode, expect:

• Heated but hilarious debates about everything from lost headphones to playoff structures.
• Absurd intersections of gambling, Barstool culture, college football, and office personalities.
• Some actual football analysis hidden between the quips.
• One-of-a-kind Barstool banter—where self-mockery, chaos, and “being a rider” are more important than the accuracy of any pick.

Best enjoyed with a beer, a bet, and a thick skin.

Transcript

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[Dan]

All right, boys, week 13. We're here. We're one. We're one week away from the last week of the season.

[Phil]

That's sad.

[Dan]

It is sad. But you have college ball. Rico's here in Chicago. What?

[Phil]

Nothing. You keep saying that like it's. It's fine.

[Dave]

Well, you. You were at a game. I don't know if it was last week at noon.

[Phil]

Right. And I. And I lucked out in the sense that definitely caught the fourth quarter of Indiana State, Penn, and Texas Tech. BYU turned into a blowout, so did. Okay. Like, haven't slipped in terms of paying attention to what's going on. Catching shit up.

[Dan]

40.

[Phil]

Yeah, I know. I forgot. We got a tout. Fucking service here. We're all at 75. 75 fucking percent.

[Dan]

I'm starting to think I'm not gonna win Rider of the Year with some of this reaction to me. I just said you have college ball, and then you flipped out. Why are you here?

[Phil]

What?

[Dan]

Why are you here in Chicago in this office right now?

[Phil]

Alabama plays tonight.

[Dan]

Oh, college ball.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Where?

[Phil]

United Center. Book the flight. Book the hotel. A couple. Illinois. They got more Europeans in their front court than Brighton Beach.

[Dan]

All right, you already used that line.

[Phil]

But he hasn't heard it.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Dave]

I was. I don't know what Brighton beach is.

[Phil]

It's a big.

[Dan]

Like in New York.

[Phil]

Big Russian area in New York.

[Dan]

You got to talk into the mic.

[Phil]

I am.

[Dan]

I'm trying.

[Phil]

You rattled me. Rattled me.

[Dan]

I'm not. How am I rattling you?

[Phil]

Because you. That's the narrative. It's. And then all the law. And then all the Lost Boys come down.

[Dan]

The thing he.

[Phil]

Oh, you don't pay. Like.

[Dave]

All right, who's the Lost Boys?

[Phil]

Just whatever. All the people that. That love to run with narratives.

[Dave]

Who's the Lost Boys?

[Dan]

Who are the Lost Boys?

[Phil]

I don't know. Like, look at the timelines.

[Dan]

I don't.

[Phil]

69.

[Dan]

I don't even know.

[Phil]

You know, whatever.

[Dan]

I don't have an army. What are you talking.

[Phil]

Just saying they love the fucking narrative. Like, I've slipped. Like, at any point have I slipped?

[Dan]

No, actually, in terms of what I'm.

[Phil]

Covering, what I'm blogging on Saturdays, I caught shit. Your favorite band. The fucking guy is doing it with the marching band on a Friday night. Granted, you were out at dinner, but you didn't get tagged that you didn't see that.

[Dan]

Like, I'm on top of it. I don't care.

[Phil]

And then college basketball starts, and then. But here we go.

[Dave]

Like, who's the marching band?

[Phil]

Usc.

[Dan]

Yeah. I don't really care. They played Tusk, which. They play Tusk all the time.

[Rico Bosco]

Oh.

[Dan]

So what I did. It was.

[Dave]

Are you losing your marbles?

[Dan]

That's not like a. What are you. What are you coming at me for?

[Dave]

Are you losing your marbles?

[Phil]

Are we getting there?

[Dan]

Are you losing your marbles?

[Phil]

We're getting there.

[Dan]

What's happening?

[Phil]

Nothing. Just, it's. Yeah, I mean, it's a. You know.

[Dan]

I just said, like.

[Dave]

Are you starting to forget where you put things like headphones? Because I saw something, and. And I know maybe now's not the time. Have you seen this, Dan?

[Dan]

No.

[Dave]

And I don't know that this is the time.

[Dan]

It's got to be the time. If not now, when?

[Dave]

He owes Meek an apology. I hate to do it.

[Dan]

Oh, I actually go opposite, but go ahead.

[Dave]

That he doesn't owe an apology. Let's see the footage. Let's see the footage.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Dave]

Watch the footage. Can we play the footage for Dan? Is that capable? Do I have to send it to.

[Phil]

He poked all day, though. That's the part.

[Dave]

Can.

[Phil]

Can we see it all day?

[Dan]

Okay, here we go.

[Phil]

Shut up. Shut the up. Shut up.

[Dave]

He lost his headphones.

[Dan]

You lost your headphones?

[Dave]

Meek found them. He was very rude to me.

[Rico Bosco]

Rico's yours because they were just sitting by the door out front.

[Dan]

Oh, no.

[Rico Bosco]

Are they actually yours? They're sitting right by the door up front.

[Dan]

Oh, no.

[Phil]

How long you think he was sitting?

[Dave]

I don't think he took him.

[Phil]

He probably did. How long was he sitting on it?

[Dave]

He said, how long was he sitting on it? Is the question.

[Dan]

Meek.

[Dave]

Can you see Meek right now?

[Dan]

Oh, he's here. So I. I had nothing to do with this. I wiped this on the record. Me neither. What I was about to say.

[Dave]

We need an apology.

[Dan]

I'm happy that Meek's here so that I. No one can accuse me of saying this behind his back. What I was about to say is I have now spent 11 Sundays in the gambling cave with Meek. I like Meek. He is one of the most annoying guys we've got, bar none. End of story, point blank. One of the most annoying guys we've got. And it's not like a. Like, oh, I fucking hate him. He just. He goes. He goes and he doesn't stop.

[Dave]

Dan, if you lose your headphones in the elevator shaft.

[Dan]

Yeah, that was bad, that one.

[Dave]

He's fine. And he finds the headphones and brings them back.

[Rico Bosco]

Yeah.

[Dave]

And you get mad and can't even be like, thank you.

[Phil]

So I said, replay it again. Said, thanks, Phil. Play it. That's what I definitely said that. Did you play it? Everyone be silent.

[Dave]

All right, then play it.

[Rico Bosco]

Rico, these yours? That they were just sitting by the door out front?

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Rico Bosco]

Thanks, Phil.

[Phil]

Oh, also, there is.

[Dan]

Thanks, Phil.

[Phil]

Let's be honest. They were sitting by the door out front.

[Dan]

You being mean to him in other ways.

[Dave]

Meek.

[Rico Bosco]

You.

[Dan]

I think you're muted.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Dan]

You got. You got to unmute.

[Phil]

Tell mommy to turn up the WI fi.

[Rico Bosco]

I was all right. I was letting Bosco talk. I didn't want to interrupt anything. I found them at the front. At the front door. I think I do. I missing my angle because I literally walked up the stairs.

[Dan]

Oh, we saw.

[Dave]

We saw your angle. It was all there. So was that all right? I. I didn't think you apologize. I saw you, like, being like, how. How long did he plant them there?

[Phil]

And.

[Dave]

And then, like, did he accuse me of planting them?

[Phil]

Yes, I said, how long you think he was sitting on that?

[Rico Bosco]

I literally just walked down cuz I.

[Phil]

Was ready to leave. Yeah. As it turns out, it wasn't that long.

[Dan]

Sounds like he was being nice, right?

[Rico Bosco]

Yeah, it was as simple as that.

[Phil]

So to say. Yeah, to say they were right by the front door.

[Rico Bosco]

Like, I.

[Phil]

Like they were in plain sight, though.

[Rico Bosco]

They were literally in plain sight.

[Dan]

Okay, so what. What.

[Dave]

What are you arguing about? He saved your headphones.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Dave]

And gave them back and did a gallant thing. And you still seemed upset in the video. So all I was saying is I think a genuine, like, thanks, Phil, for finding my headphones. Thank you would go a long way.

[Phil]

I did say thanks. I took a breath to let all of that negative energy decompose and then did say thanks. I think that's probably.

[Dan]

You have a meek.

[Dave]

But when you walked out. When you walked out, the last video of you walking out, you.

[Phil]

Well, yeah, he poked all day.

[Dan]

Yeah. Because so I am poke.

[Rico Bosco]

I offered you my headphones and you screamed at me.

[Dan]

That was nice of him. Phil, do you think it's fair to say? Because, like, I. I listen, I. I kind of get where you're coming from because he. He can poke and he is annoying, but also, you can kind of just ignore him. Like, I just ignore him if he bothers me on a Sunday.

[Phil]

Everybody's got a limit.

[Dan]

I understand. But like, he. He. Phil, we had a. We had an interaction on Sunday. I yelled at you, and then I ignored you for like. I. I took a break. He doesn't poke you as much as he pokes. He pokes everyone. No, he's not. Come on, Dan. He pokes everyone. Oh, thanks for being here, Hank.

[Rico Bosco]

I do poke everyone.

[Dan]

I'm not going to me right now.

[Dave]

What. What did we play the clip of Rico yelling immediately.

[Dan]

Just jump on Rico's side every time, Hank. He's going for rider of the year.

[Dave]

All right. So did we apply?

[Dan]

She's gonna get it. Hank is right. Meek pokes feel the most. I agree with that. I agree with that.

[Rico Bosco]

I poke who the most.

[Dan]

You poke Rico the most. Oh, yeah, right. Hank is right.

[Phil]

You don't.

[Dan]

I don't get it as much.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Saved his headphones.

[Phil]

Thank you.

[Dan]

I did save his headphones.

[Dave]

All right, there's. Thank you.

[Phil]

That's.

[Dan]

What's the other clip.

[Dave]

I. I can't see what's been played. Of Rico screaming at him. Was that played?

[Phil]

It was Rico telling him to shut the up. And then it skipped to Phil's POV of finding the headphones. And then it was Rico, like, being silent and grabbing him and saying, got it.

[Dave]

So we played the entire exchange.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Right.

[Dan]

So do you have a meek Phil problem?

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Okay. And what's. What's the. What's the solution here?

[Rico Bosco]

I don't know.

[Phil]

I. I took my deep breath. I did say thanks. I'm not screaming now.

[Dave]

Yeah, you handle it.

[Phil]

Well, it's just. It's. It's tough because we've said this. And don't get me wrong. I was the guy who swung at two bad pitches, and I got two strikes on my account.

[Dave]

Well, you. You had an immaculate inning. You struck out, swung at nine straight, and the inning was over.

[Phil]

Granted.

[Dave]

Twice went to a different company.

[Phil]

Twice for sure.

[Dave]

So two strikes to generous you.

[Phil]

You, without a doubt. But when people know, you know, somebody already got a tech earlier in the game, and then it's.

[Dan]

That's smart.

[Dave]

Somebody's got five fouls in the NBA, Four fouls in college. You got the ball in the post.

[Phil]

I agree.

[Dave]

Commit that fifth, get him out of the game.

[Phil]

I gotta learn how to not foul. I'm doing okay with it.

[Dan]

He's Jalen Ramsey trying to get Jamar. Rico's gonna just spit on Phil and get kicked out of the. Get a sussy.

[Phil]

No, no, he can't.

[Rico Bosco]

Zero chance. I get sped on me by Rico.

[Dan]

Do you think you're annoying?

[Rico Bosco]

A certain level, yeah.

[Dan]

Okay. All right.

[Rico Bosco]

I actually thought who I am. I think you want me to Be myself.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Rico Bosco]

Yeah.

[Dan]

No, I have no problem with this as long as you know that you're annoying. Like, I don't think that's.

[Dave]

He's a troll. He's an Internet troll.

[Dan]

I. I screamed.

[Dave]

He's a good guy.

[Dan]

Yeah, I screamed on. On Sunday, Dave, because he was like. It was. We were maybe like four minutes into the Sunday games, and he's like, caleb Williams has seven passing yards through. Through the first four minutes. I said, shut the up, Meek, and let the game actually happen. He just updates with stats, like, the first two seconds of the game, but then we were fine after that.

[Rico Bosco]

Yeah. There's one for you.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Thank you for coming on me. I. I didn't. I didn't know the apologies in the video. I just saw the end of it, so I'm glad that that's a big step. Bosco, you're calm now. You. You said thank you. Hopefully you meant it and we can move on.

[Rico Bosco]

I. I'm not still not sure if he means. I think he'd rather would have be not find the headphones, honestly.

[Dan]

Is that you wanted to. You wanted to punch him in the face.

[Rico Bosco]

I think he'd be a lot happier right now if I did not find those headphones.

[Phil]

No, I needed the headphones. But to say they were right by the door is deceptive in the sense that.

[Dave]

What does that have to do with anything, though?

[Dan]

What is deceptive about the door?

[Phil]

No, no, that's the staircase in the back.

[Dave]

Well, I'm confused why the logistics of where he found them matter.

[Phil]

Because, like, if you. If you're like, where are they? You're tearing things up.

[Dave]

You look like an.

[Phil]

And they're like, right on the desk. It's like, yo, that was pretty easy to feel like. You didn't need to get all bent out of shape.

[Rico Bosco]

Like, how'd they end up at a front door, though? Like, did you just, like, shuffle them out your bag or something?

[Dan]

Probably was pulling his phone out of his pocket and to open the door.

[Rico Bosco]

It probably makes sense.

[Dave]

I just don't understand the logistics of what you're getting mad at. You lost your headphones. Meek Phil found your headphones. Meek Phil brought them back. You accuse him of sitting on the information, I guess are sitting on the headphones as though there was some diabolical plan.

[Phil]

Yeah, well, I. I didn't acute. I just asked, say, how long do you think he was?

[Dave]

No, as it turns out, when you.

[Phil]

Said that he wasn't.

[Dave]

He was gone.

[Phil]

And you.

[Dave]

You said how long you think he was? Sitting on those to people around you, they're like. And I think mush is like. I think he just brought him back to you.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Rico Bosco]

Would you literally what happened?

[Dave]

Which is what made me think it was a genuine thank you. Because you're like, thank you. He leaves. How long do you think he was sitting on those for?

[Phil]

Right? Yeah. Thanks for finding them.

[Rico Bosco]

Okay. You're welcome.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Dave]

That's all.

[Phil]

There we go.

[Dan]

There we go. All right, Phil, we'll see you Sunday.

[Rico Bosco]

See you Sunday. Be fun. Yep. I won't be annoying. No. I might be. I will be.

[Dan]

Yeah. There's nothing you can do about it. You are who you are. Yeah.

[Dave]

He said he want. I listen. That was a very self aware comment.

[Dan]

Yes.

[Dave]

You want me to be who I am. Annoying, but you want me to be me, and I'm annoying.

[Dan]

And. Yeah. No, I could deal with someone who knows that they're annoying where it's just like, dude, you're being annoying right now. You can say that to them.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And I think you can say that. Why don't you say that to him?

[Phil]

Say what? You're being annoying.

[Dan]

Yeah, Just be like, you're being annoying.

[Dave]

I love how he's, like, choosing his words. Like he's sitting in front of Congress right now. Imagine a lawyer is whispering in his ear before he speaks.

[Dan]

I do not recall.

[Dave]

Right.

[Phil]

I plead the Fifth.

[Dan]

Will Meek use this against me?

[Dave]

How's Meeking to use just long, slow answers? Like.

[Dan]

You got a Meek Phil problem. Big time. He's your number one right now. Yeah. I mean, you. Was there any fallout for last week of, you know, the whole talking out of school, having people be like, hey, you know, you're walking down Madison Square Garden concourse and you're saying, hey, kill me, Phil.

[Phil]

Not see that.

[Dan]

Have you gotten everyone back together? Have the writers got. Yeah, I got a couple messages being like, hey, let's tighten it up.

[Phil]

They're all good. That was that guy trying to become famous.

[Rico Bosco]

Right.

[Phil]

It's this and you've seen it. And then people did their detective work. He even said it. He was like, I was in the skip ale. He's looking to be famous. Right.

[Dave]

But I don't want to rehash history, but when we gave you an opportunity to distance yourself from him, you were like, well, he's a big time rider. He's one of my guys.

[Dan]

We might call on him later.

[Phil]

Well, yeah, I mean, you don't want to hurt the feelings of fans.

[Dan]

Right?

[Phil]

Like, they're, you know, they're part of something. But yeah, these. Some of these guys want to be fans. Why? My two most trusted guys. My two most trusted guys don't want the spotlight. Yeah, I mean, you guys have the same philosophy. Like, Dom doesn't want to be on camera.

[Dan]

Yeah, but he's an employee, not a person. I just saw on the. On the what?

[Phil]

My top guy. My top.

[Dave]

I don't think I've ever been to Austin. Like, hey, we go to attack this person. That's the thing.

[Phil]

I didn't say it was that guy.

[Dan]

That's.

[Phil]

That's proving my point. This guy. This guy wants the spotlight, okay? He wants to be a star.

[Dave]

No, no, but you can't compare, like, Dan's guy or my guy.

[Rico Bosco]

Like.

[Phil]

No, I'm saying those guys to my top two guys.

[Dave]

Yes, but your top two guys have create. Committed war crimes, I assume.

[Dan]

No, and I think now, though, they are.

[Phil]

Right, but yeah, they're not out.

[Dave]

They've never committed war crimes. I find that very hard to believe.

[Phil]

Pretty upset. And the guys.

[Dan]

Wait, who's your second top guy? I know one of them.

[Dave]

Sully's one, right?

[Dan]

Yeah. Well, I love Sully.

[Dave]

He's definitely committed a couple crimes, but.

[Dan]

That'S also, like, what's a crime against someone who deserved it? Is that a crime?

[Dave]

Well, yeah, that would be one of those moral questions you have to ask.

[Dan]

Well, who's the other top guy? Can you write it down? Yeah, he's gonna write down for me. I'm just curious how often that's how.

[Phil]

You know it's good. No, yeah, you know.

[Dave]

Well, that means they're good. Yeah, they're good at their job. They're like. They're an assassin.

[Dan]

Oh. I mean, what can I say? What's after the comma there? And then you're saying.

[Phil]

Yeah, but that's the. You're missing the. No, I think you missed the character.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Dave]

But no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Phil]

That's the character. That's a reference to that character. Do you know who that is? I know on the show.

[Dan]

Yeah, I understand that, but you're saying, like, these guys are not doing anything in. The criminal mastermind is in his. His bio.

[Phil]

Also saying Sully doesn't want the spotlight. He's on cameo.

[Dan]

Oh, we don't. We don't talk about that. We don't like that. Is he.

[Dave]

Wait a minute.

[Dan]

What?

[Phil]

Soprano does cameos for Riders. He did it.

[Dan]

He was in a tough spot.

[Dave]

What do you mean? He does cameos for Riders. What does that mean? What does that mean?

[Phil]

It was a Band aid.

[Dave]

What is it? I don't know what that means.

[Phil]

That's all I'm gonna say. It's a bandit.

[Dave]

That I. I have no idea what any of this means. How.

[Dan]

We can't have him be out there like that. Why don't you take.

[Rico Bosco]

What?

[Dave]

A rider like people are buying cameos from Sully Soprano because he's a lieutenant in the. In the Rider army. What planet are we on?

[Dan]

You.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Is he in a jam? Is he in a bad spot? That's how guys go to jail for a long time for RICO charges.

[Phil]

Okay. He's okay now. He was. But.

[Dan]

But hey. If he's getting a bad.

[Dave]

Who's buying Sully Soprano cameos?

[Dan]

How much were they? Was he. Was he.

[Phil]

I think he was going for volume.

[Dan]

I don't think he was volume. So are they 99 cents.

[Dave]

Is it on? Is his profile on there? I think he's at.

[Phil]

No.

[Dave]

I think it was a.

[Phil]

It was a true band.

[Dan]

Find us one of these. Please.

[Dave]

But who the hell is paying for these?

[Dan]

I need to see one of these. I have to watch one of these. I have to take a look.

[Phil]

It's $100.

[Dan]

$100. All right.

[Phil]

So maybe he wasn't going for volume.

[Dan]

Exactly the pep talk I needed from Sully. Quick turnaround time with a detailed and personal message. Highly recommend.

[Dave]

Who wrote what is his profile say?

[Dan]

One of the. One of the reviews.

[Dave]

What is his profile say?

[Dan]

Rico. This is something that. Like.

[Dave]

What is his profile?

[Dan]

I understand. But why didn't he reach out to me? Because now we get more.

[Rico Bosco]

We.

[Dan]

Now we're in a spot where. I think this is the stock. The stock bio.

[Dave]

We are glossing over the fact that anybody would pay to get a Sully Soprano cameo based on him being a lieutenant in the Rider army. What? What are we talking about?

[Dan]

As riders. He's mocking us. And we could have settled this. If he needed a couple hundred bucks. We could have figured out a way to get it to him.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Dan]

What are we doing? I know you can't be out on cameos.

[Phil]

Yeah. I didn't want to stress you out.

[Dan]

Yeah. But this is a situation.

[Phil]

Bio is right hand man to the one and only Rico Bosco in a jam and need a little help from your loyal supporters of the cause. Watch Bosco Industries on YouTube.com.

[Dan]

I wish he had reached out to me.

[Phil]

He was in a jam. You got.

[Dave]

Why not just do a GoFundMe?

[Dan]

I know the writers would have.

[Dave]

Happily.

[Phil]

I think that might be illegal. GoFundMe.

[Dan]

Technically no, definitely not. There's a. There's.

[Phil]

You can do it for anything.

[Dan]

There's a Cubs fan who every. He pops up every now and then. Bleacher Jeff. He's. He. He'll just be like, oh, yeah, Cubs are playing in Japan. I want people to pay for it.

[Phil]

Okay?

[Dan]

It's like. It's crazy shit like that. You could do whatever you want to go fund me.

[Dave]

Insane. And by the way, really, if you're being honest and you have the rider, army and one of the guys has financial hardship, that's how you turn a guy.

[Dan]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Dave. Huge.

[Phil]

That.

[Dan]

That is a problem. Rico should have seen that problem and come to me and been like, hey, we have a. We have a problem here. Because someone could.

[Dave]

It's like a car in debt. That's how you. That's how you end up with the mob. That's how you end up throwing.

[Dan]

Correct.

[Dave]

Right?

[Dan]

Correct. Someone from the new do crew comes walking down the street with a thousand bucks. Like, oh, Sully. Huh? I got a thousand bucks for you to flip. Like, we can't let that happen. You gotta sell. You gotta. You gotta. You gotta solve that inside, right?

[Phil]

That's why. Yeah, I gotta build up.

[Dave]

I can't believe anybody would buy that.

[Dan]

We gotta find one. Can we. Can we find one? Do you have one?

[Phil]

I don't have one.

[Dan]

Can you.

[Phil]

There's only been two, it looks like.

[Dan]

So he's only done two reviews.

[Phil]

Two reviews. Two reviews.

[Dan]

Can you text him asking if he could send us one that he's done?

[Phil]

I'll see what I could dig up.

[Dan]

We need. We need it. I need it.

[Dave]

I'm looking at it right now. He's got his face right out there.

[Dan]

The riders are in trouble.

[Phil]

Yeah, I might have one.

[Dan]

Okay. Oh, you have one. This is crazy. Oh, here we go. Here we go.

[Sully Soprano]

This message is for Brandon. Brandon would like to know some advice.

[Dan]

Hold it to the mic.

[Rico Bosco]

Pull.

[Dan]

It's the mic.

[Dave]

All right.

[Dan]

You just don't know how the mics work. Here, give it to me.

[Phil]

All right.

[Dan]

Jesus Christ.

[Phil]

What do you want right there?

[Dan]

You're be like, I don't understand how you don't know how mics work.

[Sully Soprano]

This message is for Brandon.

[Dan]

He's in a ski master.

[Sully Soprano]

I would like to know some advice for riding. Well, Brandon, Brandon, Brandon. It's very simple. Whatever the big man says goes, right? So right away, I know, you know, the wife makes plans. We're out on a Saturday night. We got somewhere to be. I get A text from the big man saying, hey, I need you to be by the laptop tonight. Guess what, honey? We're canceling. Sorry, I gotta go home. You know, you're on your way to a ball game, you get a text from the big man. Hey, you know, we got some guys we gotta deal with. Guess what? I got to turn around. I got to go back home. I got to tend to that. He comes first, no matter what. If he says jump how high? If he says buy the merch, I got to buy 10 pairs of merch. If he says, watch my show, I got to watch the show 10 times. That's the key. The key is whatever the big man says goes.

[Dan]

It's a cameo that someone bought. I love it.

[Dave]

Yeah. It's crazy. And I'm looking at his tweet in debt bad with some bad people. Book me on cameo day. Help save my life.

[Phil]

I mean. Yeah. Urgency move. I mean, you've said, you know, two weeks ago. Yeah. I think he got to the bridge. I think he's okay.

[Dan]

This is crazy. I love it, though.

[Dave]

The fact that it's like a real world thing.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Like, that this is real. Like, somebody would look at this and be like, no way. It's real. But it is. And that's the craziest part of this little world of ours.

[Dan]

Right?

[Dave]

What is it? Like, Coaster knows this thing of ours.

[Rico Bosco]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And you. There's, like, real world. Like, Rico cuts off all mentions of Nadu and, like, ends the war there in terms of, like, hey, we're just not even gonna talk about him. Sully then can't earn on the street, on the Twitter streets, because he can't tweet about Nadu. Now he's got to go to selling drugs, doing cameos. This is all related. You got to get back to wartime.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Dan]

We gotta fight someone. The guys are restless. This is what happens. They can't be out there earning.

[Phil]

I know. They don't like the. Is. What is it? Uso. They don't like the.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Phil]

You had, like, a just USO party. They were gonna be at war.

[Dan]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay, well, we gotta get it. We got to get together here. And Meek Phil is number one.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So are we gonna take him down or what?

[Phil]

No, not taking them down, but, like.

[Dan]

If I saw you, if I see you tonight at the Illinois Alabama game, and I see you and you're having a popcorn, I'd be like, hey, we're gonna take him down. You'd be like, yeah, no problem. Are you gonna see NATO tonight?

[Phil]

Depends on the Outcome.

[Dan]

What do you mean?

[Phil]

I'm not sticking around if things go bad.

[Dan]

So you're. So you're gonna. If you win, you'll. You'll stick around?

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Dan]

And have you talked to him? Have you texted him that we got.

[Phil]

A game to win?

[Dan]

Oh, okay. Sounds like you're not going to see NATO.

[Phil]

We'll see. What's the spread? Three and a half.

[Dave]

Illinois can't bet in Chicago, but.

[Phil]

No, I did it before I left.

[Dan]

Okay. What else we got? Anything else? We have to. We still have to review all the pickup numbers at the end of the year, see if they're up or down, right?

[Phil]

You're very quick to say they were down.

[Dan]

Well, yeah, I think that we. I think doing a victory lap halfway through the season is crazy. You can't.

[Phil]

Not a victory.

[Dan]

Okay, well, you were doing a victory lap halfway through this.

[Dave]

Keep it together.

[Dan]

Gotta finish the season.

[Dave]

Keep it together. Keep it together.

[Phil]

Face.

[Dan]

Look at that face.

[Dave]

Keep it together.

[Dan]

Oh, man. Are you pouting?

[Phil]

Oh, it's tough.

[Dan]

Does anyone else disagree with that? That, like, you can't be like, halfway through the season, be like, hey, we're up this much, knowing that we have more season to go. You got to keep the pedal to the metal, right?

[Dave]

No.

[Dan]

You think we just got to halfway.

[Phil]

Through the season every week?

[Dan]

You can be like, we're a playoff team right now. Yeah, but I. Season ended today. The numbers were up, but most seasons don't. The seat don't. The numbers go down as the season goes along. So couldn't you say. Couldn't you say, why do we only.

[Dave]

Have two ads today?

[Dan]

It's a good question.

[Rico Bosco]

I don't know.

[Phil]

Can we get Sully maybe selling some stuff?

[Dan]

Yeah, I do. So.

[Rico Bosco]

Yet.

[Dave]

Nope.

[Dan]

We just did do one. We just did.

[Dave]

Get my cameo.

[Dan]

Yeah, he's going to make a lot of money off that.

[Phil]

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[Dan]

All right, Jack, you got anything?

[Phil]

Nah, I'm square.

[Dan]

All right, so let's talk some college ball. We got any big thoughts, Rico, about the rankings or anything you want to talk about?

[Phil]

Yeah, what is it? Yoramak. What's his last name?

[Dave]

The new Big 12 Commission?

[Phil]

No, no, I tweeted it.

[Dan]

The new guy for the college football player.

[Phil]

You're a check.

[Dan]

You're a check.

[Phil]

He. So his quote was that Notre Dame has two losses to teams in the top. He said when you look at Notre Dame and Miami, Notre Dame has two losses to teams in the top 13 and Miami has two losses to unranked teams. But Miami beat Notre Dame. They're doing this weird thing now. It all gets hairy like he did. And then he did say if, if they do get in the same tier, which I don't know how they're not in the same tier right now. He said the head to head would, would matter more. So it doesn't matter now, but if they get close, then it does matter. And then the other weird part is that ultimately though, if you do ask me on the eye test, who's better, I think Notre Dame's better than Miami, but I do think wins head to head should matter. So the whole thing is, is convoluted, but it was very. It's very evident that the rewarding teams. And Felica said that too in his tweet. It's very evident.

[Dave]

Went to Miami. He's a Miami homer.

[Phil]

They're rewarding teams for losses instead of. Instead of wins. So you see that in a couple of spots.

[Dan]

Yeah, I mean, Miami, they. They've moved. I actually think that the rankings for the Miami, like I was saying it last night, I'm. Pardon my take. It was almost like when they first came out with the rankings. They screwed it up and they put it Miami at 18 and Notre Dame at 10. And then they've just like snuck them back up.

[Phil]

They're.

[Dan]

They're in the playoff right now. Obviously they have to. They have to win the acc. But if, if the. In terms of the bracket right now, if it was, if it went like this, I don't know. Can they get the ACC championship?

[Phil]

I think it's. I think they have to win the ACC championship.

[Rico Bosco]

Yeah.

[Dan]

No, I'm not saying.

[Phil]

Yeah, it's probably hard, but.

[Dave]

Yeah, I mean, the only thing I'll say about that, the committee has shown they don't really care because if you go and look at Florida State when the quarterback gets hurt and they're undefeated or whatever they were and they didn't make it.

[Phil]

So that was horseshit.

[Dave]

But I agree that was horseshit. But in this case, like, I actually. And I'm usually a head to head guy, but the way this thing's set up, like it's a different sport, granted. But the Patriots lost to the Raiders week one. Like the, like, are the Raiders better than Patriots? No. Like the teams change. So if you have the same number of losses, like Notre Dame, I would put in over Miami. I think they're better fans right now.

[Phil]

I think that's a little apples and oranges, in fairness, like, so that you're judged truly by your record in NFL. They go straight standings. It's an arbitrary thing. In college, they do go by rankings.

[Dan]

Yeah. I think the games have to matter. I think it's.

[Dave]

I do too. But it's like, I think when you play has to matter.

[Dan]

Yeah, of course.

[Phil]

Yeah. That's what people are saying. It was 140 degrees and it was week one. It was cars first start.

[Dan]

So it's like, yeah, no, of course. I also think there's like the one thing, your Texas thing, which I don't think Texas is going to get in.

[Phil]

Yeah. I like Ryland. I like Ryland. The people.

[Dan]

Yeah. Yeah. But I do think that there's argument to be made, like the committee should come out and say, hey, Texas isn't in, but it has nothing to do with their loss to Ohio State. It's because they lost to a really bad Florida team. Because where I don't want to have happen is Texas could conceivably say to themselves, hey, if we just didn't schedule Ohio State, we would have been in the playoffs this year. Which. Yeah.

[Dave]

They also see those games the way you lose and then you get hammered at Georgia. I think if that's a close game versus Georgia, it's a very different conversation right now.

[Dan]

And the way that they've played, they went totally time against Mississippi State.

[Dave]

Totally. They look like trash. They look like absolute trash now. They come out, they beat AM by 40 you may be that. That'll complicate it.

[Phil]

Yep. Changes things for sure.

[Dan]

Okay. Anything else? Heisman feels like it's going to be between Mendoza and saying, I think Jeremiah Love deserves to be in New York. That's. Those first two games just sunk them.

[Phil]

Definitely deserves to be in New York.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Phil]

And that's a big thing, being a Heisman. I mean, it sucks. No. Going there knowing you have no shot to win, but you're a Heisman finalist. That's a. It's a massive thing, you know. You know, weekend in New York legends, guys you probably grew up watching, like. Yeah, I'd love to be there.

[Dan]

Dave, you are. How are you feeling about Michigan? Actually, let's just get to the games because I have Michigan on there. Because it's actually not a great card.

[Dave]

Because I didn't dig deep again on this card. These cards I. I've hated and I got smashed last week and. Absolutely smashed.

[Phil]

But you still get four or five big ones that really, really like usc, Oregon, kind of in a standalone.

[Dan]

I have no problem, by the way, with the SEC doing this because it's like what you get. It's a trade off for the first couple weeks of the season when they play hard, play SEC games. All right.

[Phil]

Have you. Have you. Yeah. You don't get in front of the horse in front of the cat. You want to put.

[Rico Bosco]

You know what?

[Dan]

You do this read. I got. I got stomach issues.

[Dave]

What were you just saying?

[Phil]

I'm gonna. I was gonna ask you a question you don't want to put, but I was making sure I got the quote right. How does it go? You don't put the.

[Dave]

No. No one knows what you're talking.

[Rico Bosco]

All right.

[Phil]

You don't put the carriage in front of the horse or you don't put the horse in front of the carriage. What's that?

[Dave]

I think it's the horse in front. Don't put the horse in front of the carriage.

[Dan]

I think that's right.

[Phil]

But the horse is in front of the car. Whatever. It is what it is. Have you started looking at Big Ten tiebreakers? No, because I know you're confident in that. That game, obviously, but I. I don't want.

[Dave]

I don't want to go put the cart before the horse. That would make more sense. I don't cart before the horse because the horse goes before the cart. That makes sense. I don't want to win the tiebreaker.

[Phil]

I kind of agree with you on that. I think it's better to not play the.

[Dave]

Because they say if they beat Ohio State. They're in. And then just leave it at that and go into the playoffs.

[Phil]

Right.

[Dave]

I don't know what happens if they beat Ohio State and then lose in the Big Ten championship, like badly or something.

[Phil]

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[Phil]

Total 46 and a half. I know there's a lot of I've seen Nate tweeting about it. There's they're gonna keep Loxley at Maryland. I think Maryland's kind of a dead dog team here at the end of this. Just kind of getting to the finish line. I worry about you guys laying so many because you haven't looked great in a lot of spots. Last week was a true like that was a disaster. Just get out of there. And when you knew that was going to be a dog fight. I lean Michigan here because I just don't want. Yeah, I just don't want to take Maryland. I'm hoping you I think you guys can use a pounding. It'd be nice to see Boston ISO.

[Dave]

With you with it. You not here. He took the ball. He ran the whole show.

[Dan]

Good show.

[Dave]

This could have been a one man, one man show right there.

[Phil]

Never, never, never cut anybody out.

[Dave]

Thank you.

[Dan]

I disagree with Michigan. I mean, they turned the ball over five times.

[Dave]

Five times.

[Dan]

Still won the game. Like they, they dominated that game.

[Dave]

Two missed field goals, a couple offside penalties. Really? Yeah. I mean, it's very hard to win when you lose the turnover battle. Obviously. Five nothing. They. I like them here. I don't love them. I certainly didn't like them against Northwestern. I knew that would be a dog fight. I could see this one.

[Phil]

I.

[Dave]

Again, it's a tough card. I do have them for some reason. Like, I think they're gonna maybe put together four quarters, which they maybe have done. No, they really haven't done it the whole season. They're gonna need them, obviously against Ohio. But listen, everyone's been throwing stones at Michigan all season. And if they win this game, what do they go to? 9 and 2, 8 and 2. And heading into Ohio State with quite literally everything in front of them. So that's a pretty good job with the rookie quarterback, freshman quarterback, new players. I think they're the youngest team in the Big Ten or close to it. So let's see what we got. I love the backup running back that came in. I thought he looked excellent. So I'm not worried about not having J. Justice Hayes back, but. And the other guys banged up. But listen, everything's in front of us. They're going to win the game. Hopefully they cover.

[Dan]

What did you take, Rico?

[Phil]

I took Michigan because I think there's a part of Maryland guys that are just trying to get to the finish line here.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Phil]

Loxley's a dead fish.

[Dan]

Coach, like. No, didn't they say they're bringing him back?

[Phil]

That's what I'm saying. But can you love.

[Dave]

That's the opposite. That's the opposite.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Phil]

I use the term wrong.

[Dan]

Wisconsin 1. Our only Big Ten win of the season was the week that they said they're bringing Luke Fickle back.

[Dave]

Yeah. And.

[Phil]

And I like this guy, though.

[Dan]

I don't know, but I just know that they. I didn't think they're gonna bring Luke Fickle back. They said they're bringing Luke Fickle back. We beat.

[Phil]

That's fair. That's fair.

[Dave]

Yeah. It's just the wrong technology. We're not gonna, we're not gonna hold you responsible. I mean, you know, it would have been if he was like fired and still coaching. That's what that would have been.

[Dan]

Yeah, I, I, Michigan, I, I'm gonna take the over in this game. That Michigan Northwestern game was crazy to watch. Like, five turnovers and all those missed field goals. And they were. Michigan was trying to do everything to just give the game Northwest because Michigan was moving the ball. Northwestern couldn't.

[Dave]

Those are two of the cleanest interceptions you'll ever see.

[Dan]

Ever, Ever.

[Dave]

Like, it was like, it. That play worked in the first half, and it was like he just decides he's going to throw it before even looks what's happening. He throws it 100 miles per hour. And it looked like there was stick them on the north, on the northwest. Like, it almost was like, right into their face mask. I mean, those were crisp, clean interceptions we got to put together. You can't, you can't have those predetermined reads. But maybe we found that guy Marsh. I mean, he had 9,000 catches. You get him and McCully, maybe. I don't know. I don't know how banged up they're saying these Ohio State wide receivers are. They're not playing this week. Right? They're two guys.

[Dan]

I don't know. I know they are banged up. I know Carnell Tate and Jeremiah Smith. They're probably not playing. They're probably not playing this week.

[Dave]

Rest them for Michigan. So I, I listen, get. We just got to get through this week. Don't stub our toe and set it up for. For the season.

[Dan]

I'm so happy you won that game against Northwestern, though. I want there.

[Phil]

Yeah, we want title fights. I feel, I feel we want a title.

[Dan]

You want a title fight. But it's. I wanted. What's not. They're not. It's not a title fight. They're not. They're not playing for a championship. Big Michigan can't go to the Big Ten championship.

[Dave]

I think they can.

[Phil]

I think they can.

[Dan]

How?

[Phil]

They'd have one loss. They lost Oklahoma.

[Dan]

Oklahoma. What is the tiebreakers?

[Dave]

I haven't looked. I don't want to go to the big. I've said that.

[Phil]

I don't want to before you walked in.

[Dave]

Okay, I don't want to go to the championship game. If it is us, I do not want. That's one of those rare things, like, all right, you beat Ohio State. You're in the playoffs. Let's rest up, get ready for the playoffs. That's what would be my preference to say you won the Big Ten title. I don't really, in this new era, is beat Ohio State go to the playoffs. You accomplish those two. Goodbye me.

[Dan]

Yeah, it's like Georgia right now. Georgia is sitting in the best spot possible. They're not only in a buy, but Texas A and M and Bama are most likely going to play in the SEC championship game. They don't have to play it. They could get a buy. That's, that's the best threat.

[Dave]

Yeah, that's, that's where the playoffs have really kind of devalued.

[Phil]

Right.

[Dan]

Georgia would. Any other year, Georgia would be like, yes, we have to go win the SEC championship.

[Dave]

Yeah. Right. And like, you know, it doesn't change like in Auburn, Alabama, Michigan, Ohio State, you got to win those games. But the moving on beyond that, I don't care.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Only bad things can happen.

[Dan]

I'm more, I would. You're right. Title fight works as I'm more. I want it to be that. Dave. Stakes are similar to Ohio State's. Obviously Ohio State wouldn't be out of the playoff if they lose to Michigan, but Michigan, having their season ended if they lose to Ohio State would feel.

[Dave]

Like, yeah, Ohio State. Listen, we already know what those guys are going to do if they win. They're going to brag and if they lose, they're going to say it doesn't matter, just like they did last.

[Dan]

Never do that.

[Dave]

Not in a million years, Danny. I've never ever, ever, not in a million years.

[Dan]

Never, ever, ever, Dan.

[Phil]

I don't know.

[Dave]

Millionaires, Danny. In my life.

[Dan]

The zoo at oklahoma. Oklahoma's my 7 and a unders. 41 and a half. Oklahoma controls their destiny. At this point, if they win out, they should be in the playoff.

[Dave]

I hate this game.

[Dan]

Yeah. Off a big win, Missou.

[Rico Bosco]

Off a big win.

[Dave]

Walker told me Missouri would kill Mississippi State. They did. I, I don't, I don't. I, I hate this game. Oklahoma hate it though.

[Phil]

I'm gonna take the over again. It should have went over last week.

[Dan]

Which one?

[Phil]

Alabama. Oklahoma. They scored a lot. It was a low total. I know. Yeah.

[Dan]

Materials got to kind of do it all, but yeah, I'm gonna take the over as well. 41 and a half.

[Phil]

All right.

[Dan]

Another big game in the ACC. We got PIT at Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech minus two and a half over. Under 62 and a half. Turns out Narduzzi was telling the truth. He did not give a fuck. I wish I had just taken him at 50. Yeah, that was a mistake because, yeah.

[Dave]

I was forcing like, throws into coverage. Like, I didn't like that game. I, I nothing. I Hated the board, so it's forcing games and they all lost.

[Phil]

Which one did you end up taking in Missouri? Oklahoma.

[Dave]

I took Oklahoma.

[Phil]

Okay.

[Dave]

You writing that down?

[Phil]

I was doing nice to Jack. It didn't sound like you gave a pick, so I was.

[Dave]

I had it. You're doing a nice for Jack.

[Dan]

Are you going to the game with Jack tonight?

[Phil]

He throws in my face. No.

[Rico Bosco]

Oh.

[Dan]

Who you going with?

[Phil]

Tate.

[Dan]

Oh, nice.

[Dave]

You're doing a nice for Jack.

[Phil]

Yeah, we tracked the picks. Yeah, I was trying to. I was trying. It didn't sound like you. You said a pick, so you wrote.

[Dave]

The note, and then after the show, you're gonna give it to him.

[Dan]

You're gonna slip it to him. Yeah, it's like, here's a nice little nice for you.

[Dave]

Yeah, it's a little nice for you. There's a little gift for you. Dave took Oklahoma.

[Dan]

I heard him take Oklahoma.

[Phil]

Okay. I didn't hear it. Listen, there's been some hearing things on here, like, he didn't hear the apology or the thank you. I didn't hear Oklahoma.

[Dave]

It's true.

[Dan]

He didn't hear.

[Phil]

You're going to miss something.

[Dave]

We're all human. We're all human.

[Phil]

Yeah, exactly.

[Dan]

After all. Okay, Georgia Tech pit.

[Phil]

I'm going to put a challenge out to Narduzzi that if he didn't care about Notre Dame, he better go win this game. Take him pit two and a half.

[Dan]

And take a pit note. Two and a half?

[Phil]

Yeah, take a pit two and a half.

[Dan]

I'm gonna ride with you.

[Phil]

If you didn't give 62 and a half high, I'll take the over.

[Dan]

Yeah, I, I, I, I don't hate that. I mean, Notre Dame's defense has gotten good. I told you guys.

[Phil]

Really good.

[Dave]

Notre Dame's good. I said I'd like them as a national title bet, but I'm not. I can't do any as long as Michigan's still in it.

[Dan]

Alive. Yeah. Okay. Second last game, USC, Oregon. Oregon minus nine and a half.

[Phil]

Over.

[Dan]

Under is 59 and a half.

[Phil]

Down to nine and a half.

[Dan]

What?

[Phil]

Down to nine and a half. I had seen ten and a half all week. Down to nine and a half dot.

[Dan]

Hold on, I'm gonna check. I'm reading it right now.

[Phil]

Okay.

[Dan]

I checked right before we. I, I. Yeah, that makes sense. The last thing I do before we go live on pick them is I look at all the lines.

[Phil]

Makes sense.

[Dan]

Do you want ten and a half?

[Dave]

No, I'm not gonna.

[Phil]

We're not gonna enter that again. I see you have you, I wrote it down.

[Dan]

You have USC ten and a half.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Dave]

But now you're going against the Duckies.

[Phil]

Haven't looked phenomenal. I think they win the game close. You can know your team well. I think they win the game close.

[Dan]

So you're taking USC plus the nine.

[Phil]

And a half plus the.

[Dan]

You're gonna buy a point.

[Phil]

You're having such a good show. You're having such a good show.

[Dan]

Nine and a half hammered bet of the year. But I gotta buy four points.

[Phil]

I didn't buy four points. I was trying to get away. Football numbers matter.

[Dave]

I like usc. I think it's gonna be close as well.

[Phil]

Yep.

[Dan]

I'll take USC plus ten and a half.

[Phil]

You got a good number.

[Dan]

Yeah, I got a great number. No, I, I, I, I do think it's gonna be close. I think USC plus nine and a half.

[Dave]

Although the way we're talking.

[Dan]

Yeah, I know.

[Dave]

Flip it. Give me Oregon.

[Dan]

That game was crazy against Iowa. The Iowa got screwed. They got screwed. I think that kid had his foot down. I think there were some, I mean there were definitely some face masks. They missed Lincoln. Riley looked pretty pumped. But their season, like Oregon can still slip up, right?

[Dave]

No, I don't think so. Early.

[Dan]

You don't think so Who Dan? They lose this game, you think they're out? Yes.

[Phil]

Who are they hanging their hats on? On what's their best win? Their best win, I mean.

[Dave]

Well, because they lose this. USC's ahead of them.

[Dan]

Yeah, true, true.

[Rico Bosco]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Because you, it could be a four bid league.

[Dave]

What if Michigan beats Ohio State?

[Dan]

Then, then you have problems.

[Phil]

I think. Yeah, I think Oregon's in, in not a lot of wiggle room.

[Dave]

They're going to be fighting if Michigan beats Ohio here, USC beats Oregon. The Big Ten is fighting for five teams.

[Dan]

Yeah, no, I agree with that. I, I was thinking we could potentially get four teams if Ohio State beats Michigan. I do. I by the way, something I will say is that I do give Oregon credit for their win against Penn State. Like I don't think when people are like, well, Penn State sucks. They beat Penn State when Penn State was still a top 10 team.

[Dave]

I agree.

[Dan]

National champions, they killed that program. They should get credit for that. You can't go backwards.

[Dave]

Well, but that, that almost in a weird way is the same Miami, Notre Dame logic. In a weird twisted way it's like you, you can't. And it works. You, you can't switch it after.

[Phil]

You can't.

[Dave]

Like if you're going to say that win doesn't count. Then you have to say Miami beating Notre Dame counts because, like, they beat them when they were both there. You can't retroactively go back and look.

[Dan]

I think they should count Miami. Right. I know.

[Dave]

That's what I'm saying.

[Dan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Phil]

Have you seen some of the hypotheticals, Dave, what people are rooting for? They're rooting for usc. And who's they?

[Rico Bosco]

Well.

[Phil]

What?

[Dan]

I don't know who they is.

[Phil]

I don't know either. I'll click a video sometimes and they're just there.

[Dan]

Who's talking in the video?

[Phil]

People interested in football. I don't know.

[Dan]

It's like. Oh, it's like people on the street during.

[Phil]

No, I think it's like. I think it's guys like us. Guys who follow have shows, this and that. Like, you'll click something. Like, it'll put a provocative, like, thing, and then you'll click it and be like, like. Or my interesting hypothetical.

[Dan]

Or like, are you clicking on, like, spam ads?

[Phil]

Keep an eye. Whatever.

[Dan]

I don't know either way. So what do they say they're rooting for?

[Phil]

Somebody's rooting for, like, put a pin in this. Like, if USC and Oklahoma face off in a playoff and Lincoln Riley's got to go back to Oklahoma.

[Dave]

We're going that far in advance.

[Dan]

Yeah. Also, this is one of those situations, I think you're lying to us on who they is. It's someone that you just don't want to give free publicity to that you're saying.

[Phil]

That's truthfully not the answer. I watch a lot. I don't remember the name Dan. What do you want me to say?

[Dan]

What do you want?

[Phil]

Let me ask you a question, Hank. You watch a lot of TikToks. Do you remember when you're like, no, he doesn't. You don't?

[Dan]

No. Yeah, I do. I do. For this exercise. I do.

[Phil]

Okay.

[Dave]

Do you remember your eyes darting? What's going on in that?

[Phil]

I'm gonna go to Zoopy or Jack. Jack, you were Tick Tock guy. You watch a lot of Tick Tocks? Yes.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Phil]

Do you feel that you recall the username or the show of every time when you're then telling the story back to somebody? Oh, not the username, but, like, Dan's kind of right. Like, you would see the face. I mean, now, if it's a random ass person, sure.

[Dan]

But wait, so this is a random, like, Tick Tocker that then gets they.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Dan]

That's a lot of weight for one person. Like, anything you see Online, they become like. Well, they're talking about this. I guess I think there's got to be levels to it. Like, we gotta. It's gotta be like, we know this person. I thought you were talking about, like, a Josh Pate.

[Phil]

No, I really did.

[Dan]

Someone good. Your algorithms. College football, though. That means he's locked. That's true. Good point, Hank.

[Phil]

Despite what they say.

[Dan]

Who's they?

[Phil]

Some people forgot. Some people forgot. Michigan lost Oklahoma.

[Dan]

Bosco not locked in on college football. I'm gonna start making TikToks just for Rico, saying that he's not. He's only watching college basketball, trying to get his algorithm.

[Phil]

You forgot Michigan lost Oklahoma.

[Dan]

What?

[Dave]

I don't.

[Rico Bosco]

Yeah, you did.

[Dan]

What are you talking about?

[Phil]

Earlier in this conversation?

[Dan]

No, I just. Right there. That there. There are two losses. One of them was out of conference. I. Yeah, you're right. I forgot that they could still get to the Big Ten championship game.

[Dave]

I mean, that was. That was like a. One second, like. Oh, yeah, they lost Oklahoma.

[Phil]

That's. Yeah. All right. I'm just saying, you know. All right.

[Dave]

My mother does that. Listen, My mother does that all the time. They say. They say. They say this is in style. Like, she'll give me a presence. Like, who's they? No answer. My dad does it.

[Dan]

They say, like, they should be. No, like, when I say they asked me.

[Dave]

So I always ask, who's they? Yeah, your source.

[Rico Bosco]

Right.

[Dave]

When you just say they, they're saying, who? Well, who's they?

[Dan]

I want to know who they.

[Dave]

And when you answer, I have no idea who they are.

[Phil]

I really don't.

[Dave]

You shouldn't be able to quote they unless you know who they are. That should be a new rule.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Dave]

No quoting they when you don't know who they are.

[Phil]

I definitely saw the video, but, yeah, some people are tweeting about it because.

[Dan]

And I'm not. I'm not saying. You're just so. You're such a cryptic guy in general.

[Phil]

This is not that.

[Dan]

Like, I thought it was. Maybe some. One specific college football expert was saying it, but we don't like him because of association.

[Phil]

Truthfully. I truthfully didn't know it was.

[Dan]

You're a real cryptic guy.

[Phil]

Trying to watch a lot of videos.

[Dan]

Okay. We all got usc.

[Dave]

No, I switched to Oregon.

[Dan]

Oh, you switched Oregon?

[Phil]

Yep. Oh, miss. So Mississippi's not on the card this week. I sent this. Dave, to you in the. In the thing. Have you seen. So what's going on with Lane?

[Dan]

What do you mean?

[Phil]

That he's. They're Trying to float. There's reports that are trying to float. They're giving him a deadline.

[Dan]

Who's they?

[Phil]

The school. He has a deadline that he has to sign the extension.

[Dave]

He said that was not true.

[Phil]

I know, but then. So the guy from Fox, Aaron Torres, he is a friend. He goes, I know the media has tried to convince you in this era, Ole Miss is as good a job as Florida. If that's true, why have Mike Elko, Kirk Signetti, Matt Rule and Jeff Brahm all agreed to extensions, but not Lane Kiffin? Kiffin is keeping his options open for a reason. Kind of makes sense.

[Dan]

Well, yeah, I mean, I think he's actually considering them.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Dave]

But I mean, that's also Lane Kiffin.

[Dan]

Yeah. Brandon thinks that this is all for show and then he's going to announce that he's coming back the week.

[Dave]

Yeah, I could see that. I mean, my question is LSU's flying them here, there. LSU is trying. Saying they don't want to pay Kelly because they don't have the money to pay Kelly. How are they going to pay Kelly and Kiffin?

[Dan]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Dave]

The buyout that. Yeah. Todd Grace. But have you, have you seen the payout that. It was 9 million is all. Is all they had to pay? Yeah. What, the Virginia Tech coach?

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Phil]

Franklin.

[Dan]

James Franklin. Yeah. Right.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I was arguing with people because, like, obviously a lot of people online are going to be like, hey, if you get a $50 million buyout, just go fuck off. And my point was James Franklin is a type of guy who, he doesn't get a 50 million dollar buyout unless he has a competitive. Totally. I want to be that guy. And you don't just turn that off. And he's young, so money's not everything to him. He wants to coach.

[Dave]

Yeah, I know that you, it makes you respect him more.

[Dan]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Dave]

Now, part of the contract was that he had to like, get the money. He had to aggressively try to get another job. He could have probably faked it, snaked it, but yeah. And I think that's a great fit, by the way.

[Dan]

I do too. That's. That's his base. Yeah. The only thing I would, I would not understand is their. Is there a wiggle room? And this is just maybe a contract thing. Is there a wiggle room where he could have taken a little less money from Virginia Tech and been like, hey, put this in the nil.

[Dave]

But they, they, they had that big story not too long ago that they raised a shit ton of money in their, like, Budget for Nil.

[Dan]

Yeah. And I also assume the contract, like, probably has clauses where you can't just do, like, a fake, like, Virginia Tech can't hire him for.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Dan]

A million dollars.

[Dave]

But they. They budgeted Nil into their program. I'm almost positive.

[Dan]

Good for them.

[Phil]

He could do well at Virginia.

[Dan]

I think I'm gonna have to write an Nil check to get back in with Wisconsin, by the way.

[Rico Bosco]

Oh.

[Dave]

How much? How much?

[Dan]

Probably like 200, 250.

[Rico Bosco]

Doesn't it?

[Dan]

Not even move the needle for them, though. I mean, I don't know. I just. I don't know how else I'm gonna get back in.

[Phil]

It's that bad.

[Dan]

Well, I don't think it's that bad. 250k is not gonna.

[Dave]

Let me tell you this.

[Dan]

You can give it good, not good.

[Dave]

It's not good. I know that.

[Phil]

I tell you what, Danny. Oh, man.

[Dan]

Yeah. I don't know. I haven't decided if I. So if it's not. If it's. If it's that not good, 250k is not gonna. No, I think. I think that would. I think. I think money talks. Yeah. Quarter. Quarter. Millie definitely gets you. Gets you back in life where it's like, hey, you. That helps something. I mean, rosters.

[Rico Bosco]

What are the.

[Dan]

What are the rosters right now? Like, a championship roster is 20 mil total.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So if Wisconsin.

[Dave]

What if they did it? What if they just took the check and sent it back? You know, sometimes charities, like, don't like who's giving it, and they're like, nope, we don't accept this money.

[Dan]

I would respect that out of that. I haven't decided, though, yet, because I do want them to do, like, that's the thing is there's nothing. Obviously, I. I said that, you know, everyone should have been fired once.

[Rico Bosco]

That.

[Dan]

Once it's decided that Fickle's coming back and no one's getting fired, I'm not going to be the dude who's sitting here being like, well, you still should fire him. I'm like, get back in the boat. Let's go. I want them to do well.

[Dave]

Yeah, you're rooting for success, right?

[Dan]

Like, there's not.

[Dave]

There's no parting against them now. Does no good.

[Dan]

Right. And I'll be even rooting more for success if I have to cut a check.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Dan]

What do you got to do?

[Dave]

Quarter.

[Dan]

I don't know. I haven't figured it out.

[Dave]

I still think. And it's what I said about Michigan, and it hasn't really worked. Like, we're in the position where you should be able to do nil the correct way. Where it's like, all right, well, I'll do it. And I want like a player to be like part of PNT or something. That should work.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Dave]

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[Phil]

McDonald's.

[Dan]

Yeah. No, I agree with that.

[Dave]

Not that they have any players that move the needle over there.

[Dan]

We got some good linebackers. Don't say that.

[Phil]

Nicholson.

[Dan]

We got a 4.4star QB. Carter Smith, who's Florida, who hopefully sticks around you. Maybe 200 and then. And then help out slowly.

[Phil]

Nick Nichols needs some help on the defense. If you. If you're writing checks for players like 250 to Wisconsin, they do nil in Division 3. It's college athletics. 25 grand for we. I go get a couple of linebackers.

[Dave]

And you're going to be the 85 Bears.

[Dan]

25 grand should get the best player in Division 3 football.

[Dave]

All of them across the roster.

[Phil]

Right. And imagine how I would.

[Dan]

All right, I'm going to back on the hill.

[Phil]

I'd be a king.

[Dan]

I'm going to do this. You tell you. You. You talk to Nichols.

[Phil]

Okay.

[Dan]

And you get a price for what could buy Nichols a national championship. And I will. I will consider it. And I'll talk to my good friend Dave Portnoy because it would be a very fun. If it's not that expensive, it would be one of the funniest storylines in Pickham history. Dave, if we both threw it 50k.

[Dave]

And bought Nichols the national championship.

[Phil]

Or.

[Dan]

Or. Who's your rival?

[Phil]

Endicott. The conference has moved around a ton now, and we've been so bad. I'd still say, yeah, Curry, Endicott.

[Dan]

Okay, so we could also maybe.

[Phil]

Yeah, Curry, Endicott, Endicott, Winnaker. At the top of that conference.

[Dan]

Is Tufts in your conference? That would actually. Wait, now that I'm thinking about it, like, imagine, Dave, imagine if we did.

[Phil]

This like Western New England. Now it's university, but it used to.

[Dan]

Be Division 3 football. We just. It like you got like, become power brokers.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Conference like, no, like fan. You played it like fantasy football almost, where it's like, we got 10 rich guys and we're like, everyone pick a team and see who can win. That would be so funny. But yeah, get a number. It's like the cartels in the 80s.

[Phil]

Yeah, I could do. I'll see what I could do.

[Dave]

Who are you calling?

[Dan]

Oh, you're calling someone right now?

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Dave]

Who?

[Phil]

Finance guy up there. Not the coach.

[Dan]

All right, so everyone. Everyone know that Nichols we might be paying.

[Dave]

Why do you have a finance guy at Nichols?

[Phil]

We're still friends with those guys. Advancement. He raises money.

[Dan]

We do the.

[Phil]

He raises money. He's the guy.

[Dan]

Tough, because you can't bet on Division 3 football.

[Phil]

I don't know.

[Dan]

So it's not like no one can really say anything. What's the guy from Texas Tech? Cody. No.

[Dave]

Yeah. Cody.

[Rico Bosco]

Yeah.

[Dan]

So I just become that for Nichols.

[Dave]

With Nichols.

[Phil]

I'd finally get in the Athletic hall of Fame.

[Dan]

Let's talk. Let's talk. All right. Last game.

[Phil]

What a.

[Dan]

It would be a very funny waiting for that call. Wait, you would get in the Athletic hall of Fame or I would get in the Athletic hall of Fame? Well, I would be the one if I paid the money.

[Dave]

No, I think Bosco, he went there and he's the connection.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Phil]

Networking.

[Rico Bosco]

Okay.

[Phil]

How does that work, though? You're. Are you the guy writing the check, or. I'm the guy.

[Dan]

You. I would assume. I. What?

[Dave]

Yeah, you.

[Phil]

All right.

[Dave]

He wants you to write it to him so he gets the credit.

[Dan]

Yeah, so. And he could take a little off the top.

[Dave]

I'm not taking it.

[Dan]

He wants me to wire him money, and then he'll take care of the rest. Oh, you're a busy guy, Dan. I don't want to bother you. I don't want to call you. You just give me this money and I'll just handle everything. Everything else. I see how that works. No, give me a connection with.

[Dave]

With.

[Dan]

I gotta worry about Wisconsin first, and then we'll. Then we'll take care of it.

[Phil]

That would be a hell of a story.

[Dan]

It would be very funny. It just depends on the price.

[Dave]

I hope it's like, where is Nichols based?

[Phil]

Dudley, Mass.

[Dan]

I hope it's like.

[Phil]

Might only be a. Like. Yeah, it might be a mil.

[Dan]

No, I'm out.

[Phil]

I'm out.

[Dan]

I'm out.

[Dave]

All right. Are you out of your mind, boss?

[Phil]

I'm saying if you want to win, no questions asked, and you're getting guys from all over the country. A million.

[Dave]

I was thinking, like.

[Dan]

I was thinking 50.

[Dave]

K5.

[Rico Bosco]

Yeah.

[Dave]

To 50,000.

[Dan]

Yeah. Yeah. I was willing to pay 50.

[Dave]

There's not one guy on that team who's getting a penny.

[Phil]

Right. Tuition, still. Yeah. 40. 50 grand.

[Dan]

Yeah, but scholarships, right?

[Phil]

No.

[Dan]

Oh, you're doing a division you don't even need scholarship.

[Dave]

You just got to get the bet.

[Phil]

Like, nobody's paying academics scholarships. But yeah, I mean, it's. You got.

[Dave]

Nobody's paying in this conference. You just give a guy like, hey, I'm gonna get you dominoes a couple times a week, and they're like, all right, I'm in.

[Dan]

Yeah. Pardon my cheese steak. Get ready to learn pardon my cheesesteak, buddy.

[Dave]

Right?

[Dan]

That might just do it itself. They're just a team. A team fueled on pardon my cheesesteak and Stella blue coffee. Goes all the way. All right, last game, Dave, you're gonna be there. BYU at Cincy. Cincy.

[Dave]

I'll let you apologize first, Dan.

[Phil]

What?

[Dan]

For what?

[Dave]

To Cougar Nation.

[Dan]

No, I still think they're frauds. I will not be apologizing.

[Dave]

Easiest bet of the week. Last week, the only one I had absolute. The mall. They're going to win this game. Their playoff team. I'll take BYU and.

[Dan]

Oh, are they?

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Dan]

If they get smoked by Texas Tech again, they're going to go to the playoff.

[Dave]

They should.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Dave]

If your only two losses are against a legit national championship team, you should go. Yes.

[Dan]

Okay. Yeah. I'm not going to change my opinion. I. I'm gonna take Cincy in this game.

[Dave]

I may go to a high school football game on Friday night. I'm not sure. There's some gigantic Ohio football game that they had to move. They had to move it from their stadium to where the Bengals play.

[Dan]

That's awesome.

[Phil]

Playoff game. Yeah, it's around that time. Yeah.

[Dan]

So Ohio's urban. Gonna go?

[Dave]

I don't know. I have a call after this to figure it out. I mean, we have that dinner, Jeff Ruby's, which is an unbelievable steakhouse.

[Phil]

White guy.

[Dave]

I want to see this football game, so I may try to do that.

[Dan]

That's. Yeah, that would be sick. Okay, so Ohio State's high school. Like, he does, like, tick tocks on Ohio State. Ohio State high school football. And they do, like, a million views. Yeah, they rip. It's insane.

[Phil]

Well, they. They're one of them. They're one of the states that always plays to kick off the season in August. It's Ohio versus California. It's Ohio versus Texas. Like, Ohio is big. Florida, obviously.

[Dave]

California, Ohio, Ohio, football, big.

[Phil]

Hey, they got great teams nationally is what I'm saying.

[Dan]

That's all I'm saying.

[Dave]

I took the note. I'm gonna give that to Jackie.

[Dan]

I'm gonna take. That's a good callback. Joke.

[Phil]

As much as I know people say.

[Dave]

Like, oh, it gets all.

[Phil]

He's. He's still throwing. Wait, who throw people?

[Dan]

Who?

[Phil]

I'm saying, if anyone wants to doubt, like, you know, the haters and the. And the asterisk. People like Dave don't got it anymore. He's still quick as a whip.

[Dan]

It's good to know you're on that. You know, that's your algorithm too, Dave. Steve's wash. Yeah, that's definitely his algorithm.

[Dave]

Because he's in there doing it.

[Phil]

I need you to know we want the Big Three. Winning as many titles as possible.

[Dan]

Okay, so I'm gonna take. I'm gonna take Cincy. I'll take the over. Are you gonna be Dave? Have you had Skyline Chili before? Before?

[Dave]

I think I have.

[Dan]

It's not. It's not.

[Dave]

I know that's what everyone says. I think I have had it, but maybe not, because I can't remember.

[Dan]

Cincinnati is a very underrated city. I will say that I like the pizza.

[Dave]

Has been not rolling in not a lot of great places from what I've heard. But I gotta do pizza. I want to go to that game. I'm getting in Friday morning, so a lot to do.

[Dan]

Yeah, I. I do like Cincinnati as a city. I think it's pretty awesome. I've spent at least like two or three trips there. Harambe. All right, gorilla, what do you got in the. What?

[Phil]

I've come around on him. I think he was misunderstood.

[Dan]

Harambe.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Yeah. All right. What do you got in the game?

[Phil]

I'm gonna take byu.

[Dan]

Okay, Dave, you obviously are.

[Dave]

Cougar.

[Phil]

Byu.

[Dan]

By the way, how good is BYU basketball?

[Phil]

They're fine.

[Dan]

Wisconsin.

[Dave]

What was this? What happened with that Yukon?

[Dan]

I had Yukon. I. I wasn't watching the game and because I was watching football, UConn, I had minus six. They were up like 15. And then I look and it's like, oh, you lost the bet. They only won by two. What happened?

[Phil]

They just kept pressing late. I only had highlights. I'll be honest, too. I was Texas Georgia.

[Dan]

Yeah. Yeah, There you go.

[Dave]

Love that you stayed locked in in Texas Georgia till the end.

[Phil]

No, that game was early when it was still a game.

[Dan]

Yeah. Are you going to be participating in feast week, Dave?

[Dave]

Yeah, I may dabble.

[Dan]

Yeah, you got to. You got to.

[Dave]

I made that one. Gonna be. It helps because I'm gonna be back in Mass. I'm going my folks, my parents house. So I'll be in a legal state, so that makes a big difference.

[Dan]

You got to.

[Phil]

It's the best. Yeah. You guys are playing that at 4 o', clock, I think, on campus, though, on Friday.

[Dan]

Yeah, yeah, it's. I mean, I'm excited. I think Wisconsin's decent this year. We just haven't played anyway one.

[Phil]

Right. This is when you find it out.

[Dan]

Yeah, this is when we'll find it out. Okay. Cards. Rico, would you like to go?

[Phil]

Yeah. So now I'm worried about Ohio State with the injuries, but.

[Dan]

All right, I'll go first.

[Phil]

I think Rucker is that bad. I'll take Ohio State minus the 31 and a half first half minus 18 and a half. North NC State plus four and a half.

[Dan]

Who are they playing?

[Phil]

Florida State.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Phil]

At home? Pretty sure NC State's at home.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Phil]

South Florida minus two, 21 and a half against UAB. And the over 69 and a half. USC plus nine and a half. Utah minus 17 and a half against K State. Utah is just. Is rolling, people. I think K State's dead. And I got one.

[Dan]

What's the number in that game?

[Phil]

17 and a half. Did it move?

[Dan]

No, I was just wondering.

[Phil]

And then I got one more at the end.

[Dan]

All right, I got a couple already. I got JMU minus 14. They are kind of getting screwed right now and I think they're going to keep putting the hammer down. They're playing Washington State, who plays the weirdest schedule in the world. Washington State's not bad, though. Army minus 10. ECU minus two and a half. Tennessee minus four. I feel like that was Florida's last stand. That might be stupid to me. Penn state, Nebraska over 43 and a half. And then I will save my mortal, which I think Ebo has all but wrapped it up. What is the mortals. No, no, you're one battle.

[Phil]

We're both. Yeah, that's why I kept saying, just have confidence. Evo's eight and four.

[Dan]

Oh, all right. That UNLV game was so bad.

[Phil]

And as a commissioner of the Bob Diaco trophy and standings, you should make a ruling right now. If we tie with Ebo, he loses because he lost. Wisconsin beat his mortal outright.

[Dan]

No, I won't do that. We're just gonna. If we tie with Ebo, because we're gonna go all the way to a conference and then you have to pick one bowl mortal for bowl one playoff. So there's still actually. What? There's two, three. There's five picks left.

[Phil]

Yeah, I just wanted Bob Diaper, that's all.

[Dan]

Okay, Dave, your card.

[Dave]

Kansas plus four and a half against Iowa State. I had to dig deep for A lot of these picks. USC plus nine and a half. Oregon, Kentucky plus nine and a half against Vandy. I like Vandy. I'm a Vandy guy. I. I think this will be closed. They'll win. I can't read what that says so I'll just ignore it. Utah agree. - 17 and a half at home Kansas State. Michigan - 13 and a half. Maryland. I like Wisconsin. Wisconsin playing sneaky better. I like them.

[Phil]

Plus.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Plus seven and a half at home against Illinois. I have Florida plus three and a half at home against Tennessee. BYU? Are they minors or plus two and a half against Cincy? Minus.

[Dan]

They're minus two and a half.

[Dave]

I got BYU and then Western Kentucky plus 23 and a half against LSU.

[Dan]

Okay mortals. Hank. Washington State plus 14. You're going against Jam. Yeah, I like that. Knowing PFT has been trolling Hank about Drake May a lot so this is good.

[Phil]

That's how he operates.

[Dan]

It's good. This is good. 300 yard one kind of shocked me. Comes up with stats left and right. All right.

[Phil]

Dave.

[Dan]

No. You want to host? No.

[Dave]

Vandy nine and a half against Kentucky.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Phil]

I'm gonna take Ohio State. Rutgers under 54 and a half and EBO has SMU. Louisville under 52 and a half.

[Dan]

Okay. Bosco.

[Phil]

San Diego State minus 11 and a half. They were San Jose State.

[Dan]

They last week were. No they. Did they win last week?

[Phil]

Yeah, they won.

[Dan]

They got killed by Hawaii two weeks ago.

[Phil]

That's what hurt them. They'd be looking at group like they'd be floating around group. We'll see.

[Dan]

All right. I'm going to take Iowa -16 and a half at home against Michigan. I always been the bad luck team of the year. They are a couple plays away from being a playoff team.

[Dave]

I think add that to my card.

[Dan]

Yeah, I think this is going to be one of those hey Senior day go crazy. Just fucking run it up and they're. They are a really good team. I mean like they were a play away from beating Oregon a play away from beating usc. You know they played Iowa State early in the season, lost by three. That's an all time like if you look at Iowa's entire season it's a what could have been. So I think that you'll get a good effort from them and try to finish the season strong.

[Dave]

Dave your so again I. I haven't liked the card. Nothing's jumped out at me. It's the worst when you go down it's like I got nothing. I could go through the card again. Again, I'm gonna take Kentucky plus nine and a half against Vandy. The opposite of Zupi. I've been right on Vandy every game this year. I haven't missed on the side when I've been involved with him. I think they're very good. Nobody's reached more Vandy than me, but Kentucky has been frisky at times and still nine points is a lot. So I'm going to take the Wildcats. I'm not going back to college to be your friend. I'm going so I can get Uber one for students. It saves you on Uber and Uber Eats. I'm there for zero dollar delivery fee.

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[Dan]

Okay, good show boys.

[Phil]

Great show.

[Dan]

Fun show.

[Dave]

Also real quick people get on and I was kind of making jokes the Belichick with Jordan cheerleading. I may come to the defense of Jordan. Like I played club baseball after high school. People play like club hockey. She loves, she loves cheerleading. Like she's a national champ so she wants to keep cheerleading. So maybe if she didn't have that haircut. I don't know if people are saying anything.

[Dan]

I'm just more shocked that there is.

[Dave]

That yes, shocking it is but like I like people play basketball after like they graduate.

[Phil]

There's enough people that'll have an interest, they'll keep it going. Cheerleaders don't get enough respect. It's a very, very difficult athletic sport. Cheering for though judges.

[Dan]

Okay.

[Dave]

It's like the Walt Disney thing. They're cheering for judges.

[Dan]

Right, right. But there also is a way to be a cheerleader when you're an adult.

[Dave]

What do you mean?

[Dan]

I mean you could cheer for like an NFL team.

[Dave]

Yeah, but that's like there's ways to be a baseball player as an adult.

[Dan]

Well, not really if you're not good enough.

[Dave]

What if she's not good enough?

[Dan]

Well, I assume she's good enough.

[Dave]

Well, I don't know that that's true.

[Dan]

Well that's disrespectful to Jordan.

[Dave]

Well, no, those are professional athletes.

[Dan]

I think it's a much different time commitment.

[Phil]

Cheerleaders for NFL is very.

[Dan]

Dude, she's very busy.

[Phil]

Competitive gymnastics those.

[Dave]

Did you watch America's sweetheart on Netflix. Cowboys cheerleaders. A billion girls try out for that team.

[Dan]

Well, yeah. That's the Dallas Cowboys. I'm not saying she's gonna be a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader, but I'm sure she could be a Panthers cheerleader.

[Dave]

I don't know.

[Dan]

I think.

[Dave]

I think you're competitive. These competitive, professional esp. They're pros. You're a pro.

[Dan]

Why can't she cheer for uncle? She's running the team.

[Dave]

Well, you got to be in college.

[Dan]

She could take a class.

[Dave]

I got a thumbs down from her.

[Dan]

What?

[Dave]

I got a dm. Just a thumbs down.

[Dan]

What did you send her?

[Dave]

Rattled my cage.

[Dan]

That's a big rattle of the cage. What did. What did you send her?

[Dave]

I didn't send her nothing.

[Dan]

I say, like, they have to get Belichick out of there.

[Dave]

I said something to that effect.

[Dan]

And then she thumbs downed it.

[Phil]

Yep.

[Dan]

Wait, did she thumbs down just out of nowhere emoji thumbs down, or did she thumbs down a message?

[Dave]

She DM me a thumbs down.

[Dan]

Oh, no, Dave. Oh, no, Dave. Dav.

[Dave]

That's like the Godfather. Like, Luca Brazy swims with the fishes. I didn't like getting that thumbs down.

[Dan]

Oh, no.

[Dave]

I was mad. I bet 200 grand on. On. On unc, and they look like ass.

[Dan]

Oh, no, dude.

[Dave]

They're plus six and a half. Against who? Duke this week. I don't know what. Belichick does not. I don't know what he's doing when he's coaching. The last game, I watched it all. It was so depressing. They had no urgency. They're huddling with, like, three and a half, four minutes down, two scores. Then he calls timeout with, like, 20 seconds left with wake at this. So I'm like, day, he's got to retire. Somebody make him retire.

[Dan]

Yeah, you said watching unc. So frustrating. It's like an alien stole Belichick's brain. She probably thinks you're calling her an alien.

[Dave]

No, I see that.

[Phil]

Yeah. It's close.

[Dave]

It. I was not calling her an alien. I don't know that she saw that one because I have other intel that says it was about saying he should retire.

[Dan]

I got to watch myself because I had someone reach out from UNC program asking for Stella Blue coffee. He sent him a big thing, so I like. I would love for Jordan.

[Dave]

I got a thumbs down.

[Dan]

Yeah, that's tough. Thumbs down means you're out.

[Dave]

Thumbs down is not good.

[Dan]

Thumbs down is really, really bad. I will say in defense.

[Dave]

I got that. It's that. It's that met. It's just that guy.

[Dan]

Yeah, I got that Jordan. Or, or, or the Coliseum. You got the Coliseum.

[Phil]

Kill him.

[Rico Bosco]

Yeah.

[Dan]

You're done. Yeah, I, I did like Jordan quote, treating Pablo Torre. I thought that was very funny. Well played.

[Dave]

I didn't see she did that.

[Dan]

She quote, yeah, Pablo, Tori had like, the top 10 most impactful podcasts of Apple Podcasts of 2025. And she just, quote, tweeted, said, you're welcome. That's a great move. That's a great move.

[Dave]

She's got a big board of what's being said across the Internet, I'm sure. And you're on tracking it. Yeah, well, I got thumbs down. I got. I, I. You gotta understand, when I'm betting games, I, I get emotional. It's like I'm in the game.

[Dan]

This is the entire genesis of Angel, Reese.

[Dave]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Dan]

People think it's. That was still one of the funniest things where everyone's like, are you gonna say anything about Dave being racist? Like, dude, he lost a bet. That's why he's mad. Yeah, he's pretty transparent about what he's betting on.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Dan]

All right. Good show, boys.

[Dave]

All right, see you next week.

[Phil]

Got a budget next week from Dudley.

[Dan]

What?

[Phil]

We'll get a number.

[Dan]

Oh, yeah, yeah. All right. Good, good, good, good.