Dave Portnoy Uncovers Rico's Next Target | PICK EM - Week 12

Summary

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Barstool Pick Em Week 12: Dave Portnoy Uncovers Rico's Next Target

Podcast: Barstool Pick Em
Hosts: Big Cat (Jack), Dave Portnoy (Pres), Rico Bosco
Date: November 13, 2025
Episode Theme: Weekly College Football Gambling Picks, Internal Barstool Drama, and "Rider" Army Escapades

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Overview

This episode finds the Barstool Pick Em crew in the "home stretch" of college football season, wrestling with a tough betting card, debating the motivations and stakes of this week's games, and, as always, navigating Barstool's unique workplace drama. Highlights include inside talk about advertising (Bosco's contract negotiations!), a wild story about gambling luck, and a sudden Rico subplot: is Meek Phil next in the “rider crosshairs”?

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1. Standings & The State of Gambling (02:30–04:19)

• Standings Update:

  • Jack (Big Cat): 52.3%
  • Dave: 51.8%
  • Rico: 43.2%

• Diaco Trophy talk—ongoing rivalry.

• The crew laments that the season is almost over.

• Dave's Stance:
  “I hate the card again. The last two weeks, I've hated the card.” (03:07, Dave)

• Anecdotes of Bad Beats & Luck:
  Dave describes an incredibly rare “thread” win, betting both the over and under on a Michigan-Wake Forest basketball game and winning both.

  • “I had maybe my most improbable... it's one of my most improbable wins I've ever had.” (04:20, Dave)

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2. College Hoops & Bosco’s Futures Portfolio (07:17–09:45)

• Bosco Loves Gonzaga (as always):
  • “I like Gonzaga a lot. Old, a lot of size...” (07:29, Bosco)
  • Lists Bama (25:1), BYU (18:1), Oregon (100:1) as his picks.
• Chirping about value:
  Dave and Jack press Rico on whether his “portfolio” is really as special as he claims.
  • “That portfolio that you're like, I like where I'm at... like, you didn't... two of three are worse.” (09:16, Dave)
  • "You really said that like you pulled one over." (09:30, Dave)

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3. Barstool Business & Bosco’s Contract Negotiation (09:48–15:41)

• Meeting Recap:
  Jack shares that advertisers "love Bosco."

  • “The sales people were like, they love Bosco. The advertisers keep asking for Bosco.” (11:12, Jack)

• Bosco’s Response:
  Plays it cool—“don't get too high, don't get too low. Stick to the plan.”

• Contract Negotiation Banter:

  • Jokes about rehearsing a Luca Brasi–style monologue from The Godfather in the mirror.
  • Talk of raise percentages:
    • “I think I deserve a 45% raise.” (15:12, Dave, joking about Barstool raise culture)
    • On staffers' attitudes: “Maybe just 30. All right. What have you done?... If everyone got 30 raises, I think we're out of business.” (15:24, Dave)
  • Jack floats an idea: make Bosco's contract negotiation a pay-per-view event.
    • “Imagine if you did like an Apprentice style boardroom, pay per view of everyone's negotiations...” (20:16, Jack)
    • “Our fans would be so disgusted by these pitches... They'd be like, these guys live on fucking Mars.” (20:44, Dave)

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4. Barstool Internal Drama: Meek Phil in the Crosshairs (26:00–39:05)

• Meek Phil, Load Management, and Annoyances:

  • “He's just a habitual line step.” (27:14, Bosco)
  • Jack and Dave needle Rico for not acknowledging Meek Phil on streams and in person.

• Fan Encounters Turn Into Barstool Lore:
  Dave reads a DM from a fan who met Rico and claims to have been told who the next "target" is in the Barstool internal wars—turns out, it's Meek Phil.

  • “Was told if I hear something, say something... That's when he gave me the next guy in the Riders crosshairs. Winner squeeze out for Meek Phil.” (31:51, read by Dave)

• Rico Downplays, But Admits It:

  • “Dude, the guy comes up, 'Hey man, huge fan... I'm your guy.' ...It's a throwaway comment.” (32:14, Bosco)
  • Jack: “We can't be having these conversations in public. We gotta go.” (35:06)

• Dave’s Observations:
  “That is the culture you created... Ramblings of a lunatic. That's what the rider army was built upon. I have your back here.” (36:09, Dave)

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5. College Football Playoff Hypotheticals and Motivation (28:32–44:21)

• Big Ten Motivation Debate:
  Bosco repeats internet rumors that maybe, with expanded playoffs, losing the Championship Game is "not the worst thing."

  • Jack and Dave are highly skeptical—“I don't think you've expressed whatever they were saying... I don't know what the point was. Why would you want to lose the big ten?” (30:03, Dave)

• SEC Playoff Expansion Chatter:

  • “Greg Sankey said he wanted 18 [teams]. They think Missouri and Tennessee should be in there.” (40:41, Jack and Dave incredulous)

• ACC Scenarios:
  Jack: “The whole Duke theory of like a 4-loss Duke team will not be high enough ranked... I completely disagree with that...” (42:03)

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6. Featured Game Picks & Analysis (46:32–66:33)

Michigan at Northwestern (Wrigley Field)

• Line: Michigan -11.5
• Consensus: Michigan just needs to escape with a win; Northwestern's a frisky underdog.
  • “I think I just want to escape with the win here. That's my only goal in life.” (46:14, Dave)
  • Bosco: “Dave said everything. Northwestern plus eleven and a half. I agree.” (47:48)
  • Jack: Advocates for the over because "the field just looks a little smaller at Wrigley." (47:17)

Virginia vs. Duke (ACC implications)

• Duke -5.5, O/U 58.5
• Bosco: “I think I'm take Duke. I'm going to take Duke.” (50:29)
• Dave: “I'll take Virginia. I'll take the points. I think it'll be close.” (50:44)
• Jack: Over 58.5

Texas at Georgia

• Georgia -6, O/U 48.5
• All three take Texas and the points—Georgia may not be "that Georgia" this year.

Oklahoma at Alabama

• Alabama -6, O/U 45.5
• Jack & Dave: Oklahoma to cover.
• Bosco: The over (45.5) – expecting points.

Notre Dame at Pitt

• Pitt +11.5, O/U 55.5
• Pat Narduzzi's wild quote: “I'd gladly get beat 103 or 110 to 10... as long as we win the next two.” (54:36, Dave quoting Narduzzi)
• Dave: Leans Pitt, “weirdly kind of makes me like Pittsburgh.” (55:30)
• Bosco: Likes the over.

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7. Random Memorable Moments & Quotes

• Bosco on Not Getting Too High or Low:
  • “That's been pretty good... Stick to the plan. Should be good.” (12:27, Bosco)
• Jack on Gambling Wins:
  • “There's certain gambling wins that... make you like a four year old who did like an art project. You're like, you gotta see this.” (06:58)
• On Pay Secrecy:
  • Dave: “I think they underestimate our pay scale probably by like 50 to 60%.” (21:50)
• Rider Army – Lost Boys Reference:
  • “They're the Lost Boys. They want to be a part of something. They need a leader. They know I've been lost before.” (36:14, Bosco)

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8. Card Rundown and Immortal Locks (57:46–66:33)

• Immortal Locks Standings: (65:22)

  • Ebo: 8–3
  • Jack: 7–4
  • Rico: 6–5
  • Dave/Hank/Zupy trailing

• Selections:

  • Zupy: Utah -8.5 at Baylor
  • Jack: Virginia–Duke Over 57.5
  • Ebo: Texas +2
  • Dave: UNC +6.5 against Wake
  • Rico: North Texas -18.5 vs. UAB (plus North Texas -10.5 1H)

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9. Closing

• The hosts agree this card is tough and don't have their usual conviction.
• Discussion of early nights and hotel fan encounters.
• Final plug: Live at Murphy’s (Wrigleyville) on Saturday.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps (MM:SS)

• “I had maybe my most improbable... one of my most improbable wins I've ever had.” —Dave (04:20)
• “[Advertisers] love Bosco. The advertisers keep asking for Bosco.” —Jack (11:12)
• “I think I deserve a 45% raise.” —Dave (15:12, joking on Barstool culture)
• “He's just a habitual line step.” —Bosco on Meek Phil (27:14)
• “Ramblings of a lunatic. That's what the rider army was built upon.” —Dave (36:09)
• “Imagine if you did like an Apprentice style boardroom, pay per view of everyone's negotiations.” —Jack (20:16)
• “This is my least favorite part of the year.” —Dave (15:05, about contract talks)
• “I'd gladly get beat 103 or 110 to 10... as long as we win the next two.” —(Pat Narduzzi, quoted by Dave, 54:36)
• “They're the Lost Boys. They want to be a part of something.” —Bosco (36:14)
• “I think our fans would go bananas.” —Dave (21:03, pay-per-view negotiations)
• “I just want to escape with the win here. That's my only goal in life.” —Dave (46:14)

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This episode had it all: cynical betting, workplace intrigue, inside jokes, and the always-absurd universe of Barstool content. For newcomers, it’s a crash course in Barstool’s culture; for longtime listeners, it’s vintage Pick Em, with a little extra Meek Phil paranoia on top.

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[Jack]

Okay, boys, welcome. Week 12, we're home stretch, home stretch. Updated standings. I'm at 52.3%. Dave, you're at 51.8%. Rico, you're at 43.2%. The Diaco Trophy is back in.

[Bosco]

Not.

[Jack]

It's not settled. He both kind of took a victory lap, and then he bet on Washington. And guess what? Those suckers lost outright to my Badgers. How's everyone feeling? How we doing? It's crazy that we're. We're almost done with college football.

[Bosco]

Yeah.

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Dave]

I hate the card again. The last two weeks, I've hated the card.

[Jack]

Have you been. Wait, what was your big bet last week?

[Dave]

I won it.

[Jack]

No. Iowa.

[Dave]

Yeah. Iowa. I won it with Iowa. So I did win the. I did win the big one. Are you ready?

[Jack]

I was gonna say, are you ready to admit that BYU is a fraudulent team?

[Bosco]

No.

[Dave]

One loss doesn't make you fraudulent.

[Jack]

They got smushed.

[Dave]

One loss don't make you fraudulent.

[Jack]

Okay. And then you won. What you're saying?

[Dave]

No, that law. So that was my biggest. And then my second biggest was Carolina, who just blew it. They had total control of the game. And Belichick maybe will do that, like, because he coaches, as I said the week before, like, he's in the NFL. He gets wildly conservative. So they're up two scores and gave up two garbage scores.

[Bosco]

So.

[Dave]

But still, yeah, as long as I win my big ones, I can't get crushed.

[Jack]

Yeah. And, yeah, I mean, I'm. I'm. I'm kind of just treading water as usual. But, yeah, there was a couple. Big Iowa I went big on, and UConn. That was the one. I should have. I should have. I should have done Moneyline because I had such a good read on that game.

[Bosco]

Nailed that spot.

[Dave]

I was telling Big Cat yesterday I had. I had maybe my most improbable. It's one of my most improbable wins I've ever had. So I wasn't doing anything. I saw Michigan's playing Wake Forest. I didn't love the spread. It's 14 and a half. I was like, I'm gonna watch the game. So I put in big bet on the over 167 and a half. I watched the first half. Michigan goes berserk in the last six minutes. Of like, they must have scored 30 points the last six minutes of the half to get it to like, where it's at, where I can get out of the bat. It's like, what am I doing? I don't love this game. Let me get out of the bet. I place a bet under 169 and a half. So I have 167 and a half over, 169 and a half under. Game goes to overtime and they're at 160. Yeah, I believe this game is at 168 with two and a half minutes to go. And nobody scores for last two and a half minutes. Michigan gets fouled with 13 seconds left. Guy goes to the line, hits one, misses the second. So now it's right on the number. The other team comes down, misses to end it, Lands right on the double winner on a game. I didn't want any part of a middle.

[Bosco]

Have you ever hit a middle in your life?

[Jack]

And that's not even really a middle. Two points is not really a middle. It's a thread. We need a new term.

[Bosco]

It's a thread.

[Dave]

I was trying to explain to Cam, like, she's like, what were the odds of that I going into overtime? I said, I think a million a one. That there's nine, eight to nine points. That's like, when do you score nine points in overtime?

[Bosco]

And then more. So two minutes. No points for the last two minutes. That's unheard of too. Yeah, that's a thread.

[Jack]

It was tied at 84 with 1:54 left. Like, that's. If you're watching and you have over one and a half, it's over. Yeah.

[Dave]

You can ask, can I lose? I could. I just. The only way I could do it is the only scenario is a split. Free throws, no fouls, no nothing.

[Jack]

And. And with 13 seconds left after the. The made free throw, missed free throw. There's a high percentage that they shoot with enough time that, you know, they.

[Dave]

Fucked it all up. They sat there, dribbled, didn't get anything. Called timeout. Six seconds, inbounded. It did nothing for five seconds. It was crazy.

[Jack]

Yeah, it's. Those are the type of wins that you just never get. And you have to. You texted me instantly, you're like, I couldn't believe it.

[Dave]

Still can't believe it.

[Jack]

Yeah, it's.

[Dave]

Still can't believe it.

[Jack]

There's certain gambling wins that make. They almost make you like a four year old who did like an art project. You're like, you gotta see this.

[Bosco]

We gotta Put.

[Jack]

We gotta put this on the refrigerator for everyone to see. I can't believe it happened.

[Dave]

I. I was just logging in to look at my account. Just over and over. I couldn't believe it.

[Jack]

It's. That's awesome. Awesome. I mean, the college hoops. We're about to be a feast week. About to get it going. There's nothing better. Roscoe, we got a college hoops report.

[Dave]

Who's.

[Jack]

Who's been impressing you?

[Bosco]

I like Gonzaga a lot. Old, a lot of size. I know they. I know they bet they won by.

[Jack]

Like 40 last night.

[Bosco]

Yeah, yeah, I know, but I have met 45 to 1, preseason. And then. And then Grant Foster got ineligible. What's he saying?

[Jack]

Wash wins. Rinse, repeat.

[Bosco]

Come on. I like Gonzaga this year. I think there. It's a good.

[Dave]

You like Gonzaga every year?

[Bosco]

Yeah, I had BYU last April. I had Bama last April. Those are turning out pretty well. And I got Oregon at 100 to 1. I like my portfolio right now. What do you.

[Jack]

What do you have? Bama and BYU at?

[Bosco]

Bama's 25. BYU's 18.

[Dave]

Things change that much.

[Bosco]

Bama went to 32. I think they're back down to around 20.

[Dave]

And what do you have them at?

[Bosco]

25.

[Dave]

Oh, okay.

[Bosco]

Like, Bama got worse in the summer. I didn't take it again, but 25 was where I was at, so.

[Dave]

Okay. So that's. Yeah, that hasn't.

[Bosco]

BYU probably moved down.

[Jack]

Okay.

[Dave]

I had a guess, if you had to guess. So you don't really know. When you're like, you like your portfolio. Somebody could get your portfolio basically the same. Right? That's. That's all I'm asking.

[Bosco]

Let's see.

[Dave]

Well, yeah, I mean, all good things.

[Bosco]

No, Gonzaga moved from 45 to 28.

[Dave]

Okay.

[Bosco]

I'm on the right side of that.

[Jack]

That's good.

[Bosco]

Let's see. Get out of the way. BYU at 22, Alabama at 30. So, yeah, I guess Alabama is a better price. Now.

[Dave]

Your portfolio, like.

[Bosco]

Status quo.

[Dave]

Like, the way you said it. It's like they were all. All great deals.

[Jack]

Yeah. I thought you were about to say BYU is like six to one now.

[Dave]

What is BYU? You didn't say.

[Bosco]

Yeah, I did.

[Jack]

They're. Where is BYU?

[Bosco]

BYU is 22. And what do you have? 18.

[Jack]

Okay.

[Bosco]

But I like where I'm at. I like. I like what I'm in on. These guys. Yeah.

[Dave]

So that portfolio that you're like. I like where I'm at. I got these guys early. I got in like, you didn't like two of three are worse.

[Jack]

I thought you were going to say Bama, Gonzaga and BYU were like the three favorites in college basketball.

[Dave]

You really said that. Like you pulled on over.

[Bosco]

Well, we'll see. Bama beats Purdue. They're going to. But.

[Dave]

Right. But what? Anybody could.

[Bosco]

Right?

[Jack]

I could get your portfolio right now.

[Bosco]

Better price portfolio. You could. You could get a discount on my portfolio. Right?

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

I like. I like that I have it. So we'll see.

[Jack]

Dave, I know we're getting closer to the end of the year, which means Rico's contract. And I listen, I'm going for rider of the year. Can I share an anecdote from the meeting we were in yesterday?

[Dave]

Yep.

[Jack]

We went through like next year's big plans and everything that's going on. Like Dave and myself and you know, the sales team and some of the numbers guys and the words they love Bosco was said. It was the advertisers that those words were said. They love Bosco.

[Dave]

It was. Yeah, it was neutrophil.

[Jack]

It was a. It was a huge compliment. It was like we're going through it and it's like, you know, they love.

[Dave]

Someone in his house that maybe deserves a commission on that.

[Jack]

But Bosco. Why aren't you excited that I said that?

[Bosco]

No, you are. Is it just. Was it just one?

[Jack]

What?

[Bosco]

Was it just one?

[Dave]

That's the one I heard.

[Jack]

Yeah, but they said they love Bosco. Like they said someone in our sales team. We were getting to that point.

[Dave]

There has been no second gift basket has not arrived.

[Bosco]

It's an in person thing.

[Dave]

Okay.

[Bosco]

I don't think you want me knowing your keys address.

[Dave]

That's true.

[Bosco]

You'll have.

[Dave]

I mean, everybody has, you know.

[Bosco]

Yeah, fair enough.

[Jack]

But I thought this would be a lot more exciting.

[Dave]

No, it is. It was good.

[Jack]

It was very good. Like I sitting in the meat there, the sales people were like, they love Bosco. The advertisers keep asking for Bosco.

[Bosco]

Yeah, it's. I appreciate that. And it's there. It seems like there's a few people that are happy working. It's just a matter of don't get too high, don't get too low.

[Jack]

Okay.

[Bosco]

I think that's been pretty good.

[Jack]

Okay.

[Bosco]

Stick to the planet. Yeah. What do you say? You know, you say that but like, all right.

[Dave]

I mean, I mean, don't get too high. Don't get too misery or you want.

[Bosco]

Me swinging my dick around.

[Jack]

Your dick is not that big around.

[Dave]

Like that one of you have a swing.

[Jack]

I've just seen her dick that is not crazy. Come on.

[Dave]

I'm pretty even keeled.

[Jack]

Rico thinks he's on Meat spin right now. The Was that.

[Bosco]

Don't get too high, don't get too low.

[Dave]

Stick to the plan. Got it.

[Jack]

Stick to the plan. All right. I thought that would be.

[Bosco]

Should be good. You are. No, it's great. It's great. It's great. I think he knows all that. Should be good.

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

Excited for the holidays. So when our negotiations happen in Bosco. The guy's traveling every fucking week. He's on tv, he's got houses. He's dealing with shit. He's fucking running golf tournaments. When he. It'd be. Not if he calls me this year. I think he'll call me. Or we'll do it in person. Whatever. I'm waiting for the phone call. When the phone call happens, the phone call happens. He's a busy guy. When's your negotiation, Jack? You want me to count your fucking pockets? I was just asking a question, man. I'm happy for you. I think you've been crushing it. It doesn't sound like that, though. It sounds like you're like, oh, here we go. Let's put him in the torture chamber. Like, I'm ready for the torture. I think just now is a good time to capitalize.

[Jack]

I mean, it was off that meeting. It would be. Yeah. So let's. Let's do it. Let's get.

[Dave]

I mean, I'm not.

[Bosco]

He's not excited. That's. Yeah.

[Jack]

Dave.

[Dave]

No, I, I'm.

[Bosco]

I.

[Dave]

That's good to hear.

[Bosco]

It's good to hear What.

[Jack]

What the advertisers want. Bosco or. Don't get too high. Go. Don't get too low.

[Bosco]

All of it.

[Dave]

All of it's good to hear. But, I mean, he doesn't make minimum wage as it is. Like, that's. That's what you're supposed to do. That's what we want in this company.

[Bosco]

Yes, I.

[Dave]

Right, correct. So it's good to hear. I'm not gonna put anybody down. He's sticking to the plan. He's not getting high. He's not getting low. Jackie Tables is trying to set him up there. Meanwhile, he's in Germany. Right.

[Bosco]

I. Yeah, I got. I got. I got my monologue rehearsed.

[Dave]

I did not take vacations during football season.

[Bosco]

Right. I got.

[Jack]

Listen, he got an opportunity. He got an opportunity, Dave. You know that.

[Bosco]

Yeah, I got my monologue rehearsed pretty good. I'm ready for the opportunity when the opportunity comes. The opportunity.

[Jack]

What are you. Luca Brasi right now.

[Dave]

All right, give the monologue then. Do you want to give the monologue? He said you have it memorized and ready to go.

[Jack]

Of your daughter's wedding. Not ask.

[Bosco]

Yes.

[Jack]

Okay, go ahead, give it to us.

[Bosco]

No, it's not. But it's. It's a one. It's. I think I deserve the one on one. I think it's. I think I deserve the one on one.

[Jack]

Why don't you just give me, like, the watered down version?

[Bosco]

Because I. Part of the plan, even though you're right, of the year, is not being like, hey, Dan, what do you. You know, what do you think I can get. Or what can I get out of them? Like, a quote he said is part of my monologue. Stick to it. And I think I did that. So we'll see how it goes.

[Jack]

How have you been rehearsing this monologue? Is it like something like. Like a rabbit hat or, like, you know, you're gonna have a card explode? Are you doing tricks?

[Bosco]

Just bathroom. Bathroom mirror to yourself. Like, confidence, practices rebuttals.

[Jack]

You got this. You got this.

[Dave]

Yeah, I. I'm. I'm. No joke.

[Jack]

Dreading this.

[Bosco]

No, I don't think you should be.

[Jack]

Wow.

[Bosco]

I really don't think you should be.

[Dave]

Okay, good.

[Jack]

That's awesome.

[Dave]

My least favorite part of the. This is my least favorite part of the year.

[Bosco]

And that's part of the monologue, too, everyone.

[Dave]

Oh, I think. And this isn't both. I think I, you know, I'm just looking around like, I think I deserve a 45% raise.

[Jack]

Oh, okay.

[Dave]

And that's not a Bosco.

[Bosco]

That's.

[Jack]

There's a lot of 25% raises.

[Dave]

The delusional culture of this company. Like, well, I don't know. Like, maybe just 30. All right. What have you done? Well, it's like, you know, I. I do this and I do that. It's like, well, if everyone got 30 raises, I think we're out of business.

[Jack]

Well, it's. It's one of those things, Dave.

[Dave]

And.

[Jack]

And because, obviously, the more I've. I've gotten on that side where, you know, we talk about it more, and I'm doing some of it with. With some people here. It's like, I think people just don't. Can't conceptualize that. Like, everyone is asking for it at the same. So, like, one person asks for it, and they think they're the only person asking for it, and they're like, oh, Dave's rich. What does it matter? They realize every single person is also asking for 25% raise. And then if you do and there's.

[Dave]

Nothing left, and this is deep business. But, like, I got rich when we sold the company like that. Now we operate, trying to break even to make money. Like when I was handing out papers 25 years ago, that's how I got rich. Now we run a company, right? Like, nobody in the real world. Go talk to somebody outside these doors. Like, oh, yeah, I walk in and ask for like a 30% raise. Like, what?

[Jack]

The other. The other thing is, if you like the 30% raise, then the net the year after, we're supposed to go 30% again.

[Dave]

That's what they do.

[Jack]

Not you, Bosco. We're not talking about you.

[Dave]

This isn't a Bosco. I mean, you're one of them, but it's not. It's like you're part of.

[Bosco]

Like.

[Dave]

But there's an assembly line of Bosco's. This isn't a straight Bosco conversation. It's like we have 30 Boscos who have rehearsed their speech in front of the mirror, Luca Brasi style. Come and give it, walk out. And the next one is just like the Homer Simpson walking in and out with a different person every time doing the same. Well, but it's good to hear an advertiser, actually. That is an unusual thing. So that's good.

[Jack]

It was awesome. I. I kind of need Milmore to make a. Just an assembly line of. Of Bosco's asking for 30% every year.

[Bosco]

I don't think. I mean, I. Let's. I mean, things get clipped and get clarified. Like, I don't. That's.

[Jack]

All right.

[Bosco]

I don't think I was going in with crazy demand, like, each.

[Dave]

No, no, no. You've had some of the more crazy demands. I mean, let's not forget.

[Unknown Female Speaker]

Plus.

[Dave]

Yeah. You don't forget you were getting 30% when. I know it. If you recall that.

[Bosco]

All right.

[Dave]

But we're in a good spot.

[Jack]

Sales team says they want more Bosco. That's just. That's a fact. I heard that in my. With my own two ears. It's awesome. I kind of did a little. Yeah. Let's go, Bosco. What? This feels like this went.

[Dave]

Oh, it's good. This was not a direct attack on Bosco.

[Jack]

No, it's a positive for Bosco.

[Bosco]

Yeah, I think he. He. You've both said a quote that struck really well, and it's like, don't get too high.

[Dave]

Don't get too low. Stick to the plan.

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

A different.

[Jack]

Yeah. What's the other swing my around. What quote?

[Bosco]

I'm saving it for the model. I can't give everybody everything. We'll see how it goes.

[Jack]

Oh, yeah, it's. I'm going to throw this out there if. And listen, I'm going for ride of the year, but. So just follow along with me. What if you wanted to do maybe a 15% raise, which is a lot. That's crazy. That's not. That's just out of the ordinary for anyone. What if part of getting that 15% raise is the monologue is a pay per view? I wouldn't.

[Dave]

Let me put this. I wouldn't want to be the guy whose monologue is following Bosco because it sounds like the cookie jar may be empty.

[Jack]

He just didn't listen to what I was saying there.

[Bosco]

So I did some quick. I did some. I did some quick math. That's all.

[Dave]

Is it below or above 50%? I ran the number below or above 15.

[Bosco]

Me.

[Jack]

Yeah, your ask.

[Bosco]

You'll have to see the monologue.

[Jack]

Okay. It seems like it's around 15%. It's not a normal thing.

[Bosco]

Yes, you. You're gonna have to see the monologue. I think you'd be very happy with it. Okay.

[Jack]

If you ask for 15% every year, but by like year 10, you're making infinity.

[Bosco]

Yeah, And I. Yeah.

[Jack]

That'S.

[Bosco]

I think actions. Yeah, yeah, actions greater than ask part of the plan. Also. That's a founding building block, so we'll see.

[Jack]

Did you hear what I said about the monologue, though? We could maybe do a pay per view, the negotiation. That could be.

[Dave]

What? What?

[Bosco]

What?

[Jack]

That's actually. Dave, that's. I know it never. It would never work. But like, imagine if you did a paper, because we, our fans are very invested in this company and they like, you know, the ins and outs. Imagine if you did like a Apprentice style boardroom, pay per view of everyone's negotiations and you tell everyone if you opt.

[Dave]

I love it. I love. I'd love the best.

[Bosco]

It was a TV show that everyone would watch.

[Jack]

If you opt in on it, you get part of the paper.

[Dave]

Our fans would be so disgusted by these pitches that I hear they would infuriate them. They'd be like, these guys live on fucking Mars.

[Bosco]

But.

[Jack]

But if you. If you do it in front of the cameras, you then get a piece of the pay per view.

[Dave]

No other company do people come in. It's like, well, I had to get like a new fence in my house. So, like, you know, cost 20 grand. So I'm thinking 20 there inflation's here. Like you know, I work hard so maybe like a 72% raise. Oh, our crowd would go bananas.

[Bosco]

To clarify, I was not the fence guy.

[Dave]

No, I, No, I'm just.

[Bosco]

I want that you haven't given your.

[Dave]

I'm just saying like the things we hear to justify raises are like crazy.

[Bosco]

I don't know Dan, I would say you. It's probably a good thing that you have no idea like where I'm at with that.

[Jack]

Yeah, I say so. I mean I know I have a. I can, I can have a pretty good guess knowing you for a very long time pretty much to the scent what it's going to be.

[Bosco]

But yeah, I also.

[Dave]

You're never going to escape. I think they underestimate our pay scale probably by like 50 to 60%. Like whenever I see people guessing it's like you're not even close to what.

[Jack]

Yes, yes, people. Yes. It's. It's. It's usually very, very off on the low end.

[Dave]

Yes.

[Jack]

Yeah. They think it's way lower. No, Bosco, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I think, I don't think you're going to ask for the. For insane. I think it was probably around 15%. It's probably going to go down after I said the 15%.

[Bosco]

Yeah, it's part of the pitch. We'll see.

[Jack]

Okay.

[Bosco]

Is a move to Chicago in that pitch.

[Jack]

I'd love to have you here. We love having you here. Sundays are great when you're here and I'll say go ahead. Yeah.

[Bosco]

The people in the locker room obviously know what halted the portal last year. Every day is a battle, work through that. But you don't let that.

[Dave]

Again, people in the locker room know what halted the portal last year.

[Jack]

I understood that. Does that mean that's, that's the. I don't know.

[Dave]

I. I gotta get moving to Chicago. Is that what that means?

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

That's not. You don't have to. This is again the Jack just like Dave doesn't need to worry about the day to day. Here we go.

[Jack]

Just ask the question.

[Bosco]

It gets dark. No clocks go back literally just because I literally think Chicago has. Is better with you here. That was not.

[Dave]

I understand.

[Bosco]

Yeah. Part of the pitch.

[Jack]

Geico was a problem in the porter, by the way. This just reminded me I'm just going to do a quick plug here. I know we don't plug other shows on this show but House Call with Terry and Jerry, if you ever want to watch two guys make zero sense for 30 minutes. And talk in all code words. It is one of my favorite shows out there. They, they, they, they, they, they, they literally. Max had to ask se. Max was the guest last week. He's seven minutes in. He's like, are we recording right now? Because like, none of this conversation is anyone can follow it. It's great.

[Bosco]

So, yes, people like it. Jack, a couple of weeks ago, Jack on the social email. I'm told that show have one of the top clips. Yes.

[Jack]

Yeah. So it reminded me of it because you just said the people in the locker room know what happened with the portal. And. And anyone listening is just like, what did he just say?

[Dave]

Right.

[Bosco]

Well, that's how I operate. That's how I operate. So.

[Jack]

But answer Jack's question.

[Bosco]

Yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely. Considering the portal. Every day is a battle. But again, if like, you don't make it of, like cry if I'm, if I'm not out there, bury your head and be a miserable fuck walking around like, oh, they got this and I don't got that. Like, okay, how do I make the best of it? I'm involved in the mix. I get to go out there. Great. I'm gonna kill the streams. I'm gonna kill the three on three. You get to do this awesome opportunity. Every day is an opportunity. Make the best of it.

[Jack]

Love it. I feel like Jimmy V. Yeah, man.

[Bosco]

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[Jack]

I also give you credit, Bosco. I got another thing for you. Meek Phil, he's a load management guy in streams. He had a real bad Monday night. Real bad Monday night. I've never actually seen someone jump off sides. He jumped off sides multiple times. They were at like the packers and the Eagles were just, you know, a punt fest. They would. They would line up to go for it on like 4th and 4 at midfield and he would be like, oh, my God, I can't believe they're going for it. And then it'd be a delay a game because they're punting. He just kept on doing that. It's like he was. He was like, oh, for six on takes.

[Bosco]

So he's a lot. It looks like he's getting a Brandon too. I think Dave loves that though. Like, he's.

[Jack]

No, I like Big Phil. He just.

[Bosco]

It's good. I mean, it's. Yeah, I get it. That's his job.

[Jack]

But I told him this to his face.

[Dave]

I heard you don't even acknowledge his existence.

[Jack]

I've heard that as well.

[Bosco]

Yeah. I think it's healthier if I only talk to him if I have to.

[Dave]

No, like. But even if you have, like, like he's just air. You're like that. What's his face.

[Jack]

You're doing that. You see, you're doing. Yeah, he's doing his old thing where like two dogs see each other at the park, but they don't actually make eye contact. Contact. They kind of just do the side eye thing.

[Dave]

Why do you hate him so much?

[Bosco]

He's just a habitual line step.

[Dave]

But what does that mean?

[Bosco]

Gotcha culture. Like, you know, I mean, you know, it's just. I don't know. It is what it is. It's. He know, like, he, he's just poking. It's. It's tough.

[Dave]

But you like one of those phrases, like a habitual line stepper. You've been known to like, sprint past a couple lines and you're.

[Bosco]

That's accurate. That's. That's very accurate.

[Jack]

I think Meek is funny. I just was saying two nights in a row, he. The second night he ran out of gas. He was great on Sunday. Then he ran out of gas. He just started. He started throwing up shots.

[Dave]

He.

[Jack]

I said it to him. So this isn't like me talking. I said to him, I was like, he was having a Tony Snell night. He was just sitting on the couch. He's throwing up shots, missing everything. So. But so you. So, Rico, is he like. Is he your number one right now?

[Bosco]

Probably, yeah. I mean, I interact with him a lot, too. That's the part of it.

[Jack]

Yeah, I heard. You don't even put on your headphones on. On pick central because you don't want to hear him talk.

[Bosco]

No, that's not true.

[Jack]

Oh, okay. So you converse with him.

[Bosco]

It's just a lot.

[Jack]

What did he do that was the most annoying thing in the last, like, week and a half? I don't know.

[Bosco]

I don't know. Probably at the streams. I'll be honest. I don't know. It's a lot. Just adds up.

[Jack]

Okay. Do you want to talk some college football?

[Bosco]

I'd love to.

[Jack]

Do you want to do some hypotheticals that probably won't happen, but we could just argue about for a second.

[Bosco]

Yeah, I saw them talking about wake up, barstool. What if? Or what's the motive? There's a hypothetical. Everyone's floating out there, obviously. Listen, the Big Ten winning the Big Ten championship is a big deal, but if Ohio State and Indiana are both undefeated, there's a shot they still both get home games is what T. Bob and Brandon were kind of floating this morning like the loser of the Big Ten wouldn't fall further than.

[Jack]

Well, no, they wouldn't get home games because in the first. It's only the first round. That is at home.

[Bosco]

Well, they would. I'm sorry. They would get a cliff. You're right. They would get a buy. They would still get a buy. Yeah, they wouldn't get home games. You're right. They would get a buy. So. And you saw it last year with Oregon. They were the ones. And I know they re. You know, they don't recede this year. They truly seed. But Oregon kind of got screwed with that draw being the one overall. I'm not like, I don't know. It's just. It's one of those.

[Dave]

What are you saying?

[Bosco]

They. T. Bob and Brandon brought it up. I said, that's interesting.

[Jack]

Like, though you haven't even gotten.

[Bosco]

It's not. It's not the worst thing. Whoever loses the Big Ten, like, how motivated are they in that Big Ten championship game? Don't get me wrong, winning the conference is a big deal, but you might actually be in just as good of a situation not be in the overall one seed. That's what they're floating because.

[Dave]

You mean you. You would run into a power school before instead of like one of the little guys?

[Bosco]

No, you would just still have. You'd still have the buy. I don't know. It was their idea. It kind of made sense.

[Jack]

I still don't know what the idea.

[Dave]

I don't think you've expressed whatever they were saying. Unless they're just morons. I don't. I don't know what you've. I don't know what the point was. Why would you want to lose the big tent? Why would you want to lose the big tent?

[Bosco]

Lose it. It's just a Big Ten championship game. They don't have the most motivation for that game. They're both going to be in a situation where they could both get a buy. So it's like losing that game is not the worst thing in the world.

[Jack]

Are you saying they're going to.

[Bosco]

Interesting.

[Jack]

They're going to sit guys, not sit guys.

[Dave]

I think they want. I think people want to win the Big Ten.

[Bosco]

So do I. So do I.

[Jack]

Okay. What's. What's another one that you got?

[Dave]

That was good. That was a good talk. I don't know what the hell that was.

[Jack]

So confused.

[Unknown Female Speaker]

Where.

[Bosco]

No. I got no other hypotheticals you think.

[Jack]

That you agree with. I agree with the. Are you saying that they're going to sit both teams?

[Bosco]

They're going to sit guys and it's.

[Jack]

So they're going to not try.

[Bosco]

Not. Not try. I guess it's not a hypothetical. It's just like if they're both championship, they're good. The outcome doesn't matter as much as it used to that that you needed to win that to get the buy. The way the true seating is now. These two teams.

[Dave]

Used to. We've only been doing this a year.

[Bosco]

2.

[Jack]

That was literally one year that you could. The outcome.

[Bosco]

All right. Yeah. All right.

[Jack]

It used to be the outcome didn't matter at all because I mean you could not be in the 14 playoff. So it's not the same as last year. They like last year.

[Bosco]

It's not that they liked it. It's just. I don't know.

[Jack]

Okay.

[Bosco]

They're. They're. The crux of it is that Indiana and Ohio State both make the Big Ten. They both still could get a buy coming out.

[Dave]

I don't know what this is.

[Jack]

Can I write?

[Dave]

I just got sent this mid conversation. Met Bosco today at the St. John's Game and heard some concerning things. Was told if I hear something, say something I May have mentioned I'd be willing to be a foxhole guy. And that's when he gave me the next guy in the Riders crosshairs. Winter squeeze out for me, Phil.

[Bosco]

Okay.

[Dave]

Were you talking about this at a game?

[Bosco]

Dude, the guy comes up, hey, man, huge fan. Like, I'm your man. Like, whatever. How's it going? Oh, you know, talking about, dude, Dave, they come up to me, guys pitch you. Fucking million dollar idea. I don't. What do you want me to do? Control every conversation? Yeah, in the. In the fucking concourse. Like, yo, man, I'm a big fan. Like, I'm your guy. All right? Yeah, man, we'll get you in. He's like, anything you need. I'm like, I know Phil give you a hard time. All right? Yeah, man, we'll. Yeah, we'll get him like one of those, like. All right, dude, it's a throwaway comment.

[Jack]

Like, bill's in the crosshairs. You don't want to be in the crosshairs.

[Dave]

Yeah, I believe that. So this.

[Bosco]

You want me to recall every single conversation?

[Dave]

I knew this one right away, apparently.

[Bosco]

Yeah. Cuz the guy was right there like six times. Yo, man, I'm your boy. I'm your. Like, all right, buddy, I'm. I'm trying to eat popcorn, hang out with Cody and go back and win a game for oats. Like, all right, man, I got it. You're a big fan. I got it. Left came back like, good guy, but, like, walked away and then came back. Well, by the way, man, I got to get in there, like, cold. Healthy debate. He called healthy debate all the time.

[Dave]

Like, it says that in this message. I stopped reading because.

[Bosco]

Yeah, dude.

[Jack]

All right.

[Bosco]

What does it say? Did it say I said bomb his house? Did I say I do this? No, Like, I just. All right. He's like, yeah, man, we got to go get that guy.

[Dave]

As a rider, I'm affronted by this. I was one of six people. Listen, healthy debate. Oh, our guy who he sent this to. Is this gotcha culture. You just concerned rider trying to protect RICO from himself. As a writer, I'm affronted by this question. As one of six people who listen to healthy debate. And he's even was a first caller on a handful of occasions. I'm still willing and able to be a foxhole guy, but can't have him coming at meek and just felt like I would be mandami adjacent terrorist.

[Bosco]

Okay. And that's the ramblings of like a lunar.

[Jack]

Okay, that's.

[Bosco]

It's an Up. It's just an everyday.

[Dave]

That is what that is. That is.

[Bosco]

That is the culture you created.

[Dave]

Ramblings of a lunatic. That's what the rider army was built upon. I. I have your back here.

[Bosco]

Every day's a battle. But I'm. I'm. I'm ready to go. I'm Leo. One battle after another. Every single day. I'm prepared to do it. I'm mentally stronger than there is.

[Dave]

That's a true rider.

[Bosco]

Yeah, he is. But that's like. And then you're taking that.

[Jack]

Oh. You know who this is?

[Bosco]

I somewhat recognize the face.

[Jack]

Oh.

[Bosco]

All right. I mean, well.

[Dave]

So you were having wartime conversations of the concourse.

[Jack]

We can't be having those in public.

[Bosco]

I was having conversations with fans the same way. Riders. The guy's like, yeah, like what? Yeah, riders.

[Dave]

You said he's a writer.

[Bosco]

Asking for pictures, saying hello, getting ready to attack, maybe.

[Dave]

Okay, fine.

[Jack]

We can't be having these conversations in public. We gotta go.

[Bosco]

What exactly does the fucking conversation say?

[Dave]

I just read it.

[Bosco]

What did he say?

[Jack]

I said, meek Phil's gonna be a target in January.

[Bosco]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Went to Squeeze out.

[Jack]

Oh, yeah.

[Bosco]

Oh, okay. I'm throwing around cliches out on the fucking concourse.

[Jack]

Oh, I don't know this guy.

[Bosco]

Yeah, so, okay. So people get to be okay. I'm concerned about him. What's his fucking. What's his fucking FICA score? I'm concerned for you, pal. You come on.

[Dave]

The rico. He's got the popcorn.

[Bosco]

I'm not lying.

[Jack]

He's trying to get the popcorn.

[Bosco]

Well, there's a lot of harmless conversations. Like, why do you hate the Johnny's? I'm like, did you actually go to St. John's they're like, yeah. I'm like, what'd you major in, Coke? They laugh. They're like, oh. Like, back and forth.

[Dave]

Like, the thing is, I'm like, is this guy. This guy's not a writer then? Because he's setting you up. You're like, no, he is a writer. So you have Crazy. The culture you've created.

[Bosco]

They're the Lost Boys. They want to be a part of something. They need a leader. They know I've been lost before. Like, yeah, they're. It's. They need guidance. It's the Lost Boys.

[Jack]

Someone's Boys. Lost Boys.

[Bosco]

We get out there, we put our sticks in our little bag and we sing our songs and we go to, you know, we go to Never Never Land, and I'm the guy, like, eat.

[Jack]

The fake food, right? Rufio. Rufio.

[Dave]

Right. I'd be a little concerned as Meek Phil.

[Jack]

I would definitely be concerned if I was Meek Phil.

[Dave]

I may have mentioned that I'd be willing to be a foxhole guy. And that's when he gave me the next guy in the riders crosshairs and. Which I squeeze out from Meek Phil. Who brought up Meek Phil?

[Bosco]

I honestly have no idea. I have no idea.

[Jack]

At that point, you remember everything about this.

[Bosco]

Yeah. There was no direct. I mean, there was no direction.

[Jack]

Whatever, dude, that was. You did. You had a crazy good memory there for the entire conversation. And then that fair.

[Bosco]

The guy's also not going to incriminate himself. Did he probably. Are there people all the time, like, yo, whatever you need, man. Like, fuck Nadu. Fuck this.

[Jack]

Fuck, yeah. But this.

[Bosco]

Yeah, whatever you say. Whatever you say. All right, let's see. All right, so then I did it, Dan.

[Jack]

I'm just.

[Bosco]

I did it. I fucking did it.

[Jack]

I'm actually.

[Bosco]

Again, I did it.

[Jack]

Can I just say something real quick, just as a side. I'm a little upset that I wasn't also giving these orders. Guy tries to be a rider, and they're just not getting. I'm. The orders are not getting to me.

[Bosco]

There are no orders.

[Jack]

Well, you saw a guy at the MSG and he gave him orders.

[Bosco]

That's a.

[Dave]

Covering his mouth, eating popcorn. Yeah, Meek Phil.

[Bosco]

No, there's a lot of guys who want to move up the ranks, too. Like, that guy said he's very eager to go. Like, he's. You know, I don't know who he was. I don't follow me. He's not on my radar. Like, he. What do you want me. He's doing something and now move up. Who do you message, Austin? You. That's what these guys do. They get a little wild. And I got two guys that I relay the messages to if they get a little nuts. Calm the fuck down. Hey, you're getting on the radar for the wrong reasons. Like, calm down. It's a pyramid. It's me, two guys, and then everybody else.

[Jack]

Meek Phil's in trouble.

[Bosco]

Okay, how many other people have you told that, like, Meek Phil's in your crosshairs in public? I mean, Jack, if you watch the content, you probably figure it the fuck out. Jack, I know you don't like him, but, like, did this kid just walk up and say, can I get a photo? And you're like, meek Phil's done soon?

[Dave]

No, no, that's not what happened.

[Bosco]

I'm sure that's your fucking wet dream. But no, that's not what happened.

[Dave]

Shove it in the face with popcorn.

[Jack]

Meek Phil, take him out. The guy's like, hey, how do you think Bama played in the first half? He's like, take Meek Phil out now. Don't ask questions.

[Bosco]

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[Jack]

All right, Rico, back to the hypothetical. You were saying? I think what you're trying to say, if I could help you, is that there is a world where the conference championship games might not mean anything.

[Bosco]

Yes.

[Jack]

And we're going towards that world and they're going to have to figure it out.

[Dave]

Well, yeah, that's Ryan Day saying he wants devalue the Michigan game because they can't beat Michigan. I still come from a school where winning the Big Ten is a huge deal and will always matter.

[Jack]

And, and so, yeah, other than that, like, I don't think the, the SEC is doing their game right now. Greg Sankey said he wanted 18. He thinks eight teams should be in from the SEC, which is crazy. I, yeah, eight teams. He was like, I talked to some committee members. They think Missouri and Tennessee should be in there.

[Dave]

That's nuts.

[Jack]

Nuts. He's got to obviously play the game, but it's, it's pretty ridiculous. Eight teams. I think it's pretty much, it's, it's pretty much set, though.

[Bosco]

There's going to Miami was crazy to see that high.

[Jack]

Why? They went up three spots.

[Bosco]

Yeah, I didn't. Yeah, I guess.

[Jack]

All right, well, what do you mean you guess they went up three spots?

[Bosco]

Yeah.

[Jack]

What's the.

[Bosco]

I don't know. I didn't expect it.

[Jack]

But they only went up three spots and it's because the other. There's other teams that lost.

[Bosco]

Right. Because the ACC is such a mishmash. I did not expect Miami to be.

[Jack]

Virginia, Louisville and Iowa all lost.

[Bosco]

Right.

[Jack]

They needed.

[Bosco]

Miami got the breaks it needed.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Jack]

Yeah. I didn't think anything of my. You realize Miami at. I think you're getting confused in. They're in the bracket because they have to predict who the highest ACC team is, not because they're going to win the ACC and be in.

[Bosco]

No, I know.

[Dave]

ACC has still watcher laid out a scenario. I don't think it'll necessarily happen, but they could get shut out.

[Jack]

I don't.

[Bosco]

I don't.

[Jack]

That scenario makes no sense to me because the people who have thrown out the scenario, you're basically saying then Duke would win out and you don't think that they would rank Duke pretty high. They would. Duke would climb if they. If they won out. That's the whole Duke theory of like a 4 loss. Duke team will not be high enough ranked to get into the College Football Playoff. I completely disagree with that because Duke would have to beat good teams, including possibly Georgia Tech or someone else good in the ACC championship game, which would then jump whoever that we're talking about in this scenario.

[Dave]

It depends.

[Bosco]

Depends.

[Jack]

They would have beat Virginia this week, which is a top 25 team. North Carolina, Wake Forest, those. You know, Wake Forest is a pesky team. They're talking about at the barbershop and then they'd have to win the ACC championship game. You. They would definitely raise them in the rankings from that.

[Dave]

Yeah, probably.

[Jack]

It will all figure itself out, I think. I mean Michigan's got like you got the Michigan and the USC where they're still alive.

[Bosco]

Michigan's alive. Yeah.

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

Michigan.

[Dave]

I'm very worried this week. Very worried.

[Jack]

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[Jack]

Okay, let's do it, Dave, because we're going to be at that game. We're doing big noon. Michigan at Northwestern at Wrigley. What is the current line?

[Dave]

12 and a half, I think.

[Jack]

Let me just pull it up. Yeah, the we're excited for. This is going to be fun. You're going to have. Dave, you're doing, you're doing batting practice on Friday?

[Bosco]

Yep.

[Jack]

Yeah, I'd love to go. Got to work.

[Dave]

I don't know what. Yes. Work. I mean, I have those pregame meetings. I don't know what they said in the thing. I have a call at noon. I don't know what the hell that means.

[Jack]

Oh, I mean, maybe when we, when, when, when we did this stuff, the Northwestern game, like week three, they gave us jerseys, but I don't know why.

[Dave]

Would a Northwestern jersey.

[Jack]

No, a Cubs jersey like. Oh, but, but I don't know why they would have brought that. But this could be fun. I'm excited. I've been to a couple games at Wrigley for football. It's, it's good. They do a pretty good job and the Murphy's location. So if you want to come out, we're doing the barstool college football show, then the big noon show outside of Murphy's in the parking lot there. It's going to be a great time, you know, tailgate at a bar, then come on over. It's going to be a great and I think it's be like 65 degrees. Perfect.

[Bosco]

Perfect.

[Jack]

Day. Yeah.

[Dave]

Michigan alum sluggers Friday night. That turns sluggers into Ricks. Buy tickets. All money goes to the nil. I this game I hate.

[Jack]

Yeah, I think there's a chance like this is one of those.

[Dave]

Northwestern's not horrible. I bet on them a couple times. They've been good. They've covered for me. They're solid. Michigan has at times looked good, at times looked very bad. I. I am not going to bet the game because I was betting it. Truth serum. I take Northwestern. I think I just want to escape with the win here. That's my only, my only goal in life. Don't stub your toe. These next two weeks. We got Northwestern, Maryland, and then put game pressure on Ohio. And who knows you, who knows you beat Ohio at home and Ann Arbor. And we know they got a problem playing us. You get in the playoffs, so. But we got to get through this week. I'm very nervous. Maybe they surprise me and blow this team out. I don't know. But I'm not expecting it.

[Jack]

Yeah, Northwestern's definitely frisky, underdog. And this will be. This will. Unfortunately for Northwestern, I mean, they don't really have a home advantage right now anyway because they play in a. In a soccer stadium.

[Dave]

This will be all Michigan.

[Jack]

All Michigan. All Michigan. I went to the Ohio State Northwestern game last year is all Ohio State. Yeah.

[Dave]

This is going to be all Michigan.

[Jack]

I'm going to take the over in this game. 41 1/2. I think Northwestern can move the ball.

[Dave]

A little bit and they can and they will.

[Jack]

Yeah. So I'm going to take the over 41 and a half. And this is going to sound really stupid, and I understand this sounds really stupid, but when they play a football game at Wrigley, the field just looks a little smaller. So you have less, Less distance to go to get to the end zone. It's the same. It's 100 yards, but in my head it looks smaller. So. Yeah, I know this sounds dumb, but I'm. That's. I think you can score points. It's like soft rims. Rico.

[Bosco]

Yeah. It's 11 and a half. I'm going to take Northwestern plus the 11 and a half. I agree with everything Dave's going to say. It's going to be ugly.

[Dave]

Dave said what?

[Jack]

He did already say it.

[Dave]

Dave said everything. Dave's gonna say everything.

[Bosco]

Dave said everything Dave said. Yeah. Northwestern plus 11 half. I agree. Michigan's just got to get with a win. You watch them. They offense very stagnant at times and it's crazy because Underwood. You feel like. Just let them air it out. They won't do it. I'll take Northwestern plus the 11 and a half.

[Dave]

Do we have an injury report on Donovan McCully? He left last game. They need him.

[Jack]

Let's find that.

[Bosco]

The interesting thing, Dave, is that Michigan has one conference loss. They obviously lost to usc. Yeah. But they lost to Oklahoma. That doesn't hurt them in the Big Ten if they beat Ohio State. And Oregon also has one. I'm interested what that Michigan, if they.

[Dave]

Went out, I think was the Big Ten championship. Most likely.

[Bosco]

But Oregon's in that mix also with one conference loss. So that's where it gets very interesting.

[Dave]

Also would Ohio State. But we beat them and. Right.

[Bosco]

It gets. It's hairy. It's very hairy to me.

[Jack]

I mean there's probably tiebreakers. So.

[Bosco]

I don't know. I mean. Yeah. I don't. They all go down and down and. You know. I don't know. I don't know what the time. Yeah.

[Jack]

More. Sorry.

[Bosco]

Sharon said McCully's playing.

[Dave]

All right, good. That's big.

[Jack]

I'm sure you could look at. Look up the tiebreakers.

[Bosco]

Sure.

[Jack]

Okay. Head to head matchup. But it's all common conference opponents, so it's probably that.

[Bosco]

Okay, so who did.

[Jack]

Who did Oregon. Oregon lost to?

[Bosco]

Depends. Usc maybe Oregon.

[Jack]

No. Who did Oregon lose to?

[Bosco]

Indiana.

[Jack]

Indiana. Michigan didn't play him.

[Bosco]

Who did Michigan State didn't. Ohio State didn't play him.

[Jack]

Michigan lost the usc. So if Oregon.

[Bosco]

Right. But Ohio State is also sitting there.

[Jack]

Ohio State didn't play Oregon.

[Bosco]

I know, but they didn't play usc. So I don't know.

[Jack]

It's common opponents, I think. Okay. Either way. Let's go to the next game. I threw this one in there. Virginia. Duke. Because this is a very consequential game for the ACC. Duke is minus five and a half over. Under is 58 and a half. Chandler Morris, I believe might be injured or he was injured in the game against Wake. Rico, by the way, never wrong. Just early wake. They're buzzing. They're buzzing in the barber shops in Salem.

[Bosco]

Yeah, I mean, it's a. It's a good team. They're having a good season. They. It would have been nice if they covered against Kennesaw State. I was dead wrong on them. They turned out to be a really good team. So. But yeah, it's. It's Wakes. Wakes. Having a good year.

[Jack]

What do you guys like in this game? Let me see if Chandler Morris is playing. I think he's supposed to come back.

[Bosco]

I think I'm take Duke. I think I'm going to take Duke.

[Jack]

What do you got, Dave? Hopeful to have Chandler Morris at Duke.

[Bosco]

Duke, Duke. So frustrating to watch. They get down to the red zone, screw up. They do a million different things, bad things, but I like to take it score. I'm going to take Duke.

[Dave]

I take Virginia. I'll take the points. I think it'll be close.

[Jack]

They are so, so annoying to watch in terms of some of these games. I agree with that. I'll take. I'll take the over again in this 58 and a half. So next game, Texas at Georgia. Georgia's minus six over under 48 and a half.

[Bosco]

Big game.

[Dave]

George's most complete game last week.

[Jack]

Yeah, that was. That was. We've been talking like they're not the same Georgia. That was the same Georgia.

[Dave]

They look good. I'm not gonna listen. Or maybe it was more Mississippi State finally being Mississippi State. I'm going to take Texas here. Close game and one game won't totally change my opinion on Georgia. I've been saying it's not the same Georgia. I'm going to stick with that another week. Close game, down to the wire. I'll take Texas and the points.

[Jack]

Rico, what do you think about this game? What do you think about Texas Game.

[Bosco]

I'm going to take. They can still lose it. They'll be fine. They got to go beat A and M. They got to take one of the two. I'm going to take Texas. Catching the key here for Georgia. They got a sack. Arch manning in the three in again against Mississippi State. He got sacked five times, Kentucky three times, Florida six times. The problem is Georgia is 125th in sacks per game. I think the Texas offensive line gives them some time. I would take Texas plus the points.

[Jack]

Got a sack. Got to heat up the.

[Bosco]

Gotta sack him.

[Jack]

Gotta.

[Bosco]

You gotta. Georgia hasn't been able to do it, which is, you know, you've always would assume, oh, Georgia goes and gets it. Not good getting sacks. I think Arch takes advantage of the time. They protect them. I think Texas covers.

[Jack]

Okay, I'm gonna. I'm gonna be with you, Bosco. Plus six Texas. Wait, did you take Texas too?

[Bosco]

All three. Okay.

[Jack]

We all three of us agree. Okay, next game, Alabama.

[Bosco]

Oklahoma.

[Jack]

Oklahoma at Alabama. Alabama's minus six over. Under is 45 and a half. I'll start with this one. I really like Oklahoma. I think they're going to stay in this game. I think Bama's good, but not great. Kind of similar to Georgia, although they've been like going. I can't really get a read on Bama fully because they've had, you know, that Georgia win. Feels like it was a year ago. Obviously that was very impressive.

[Bosco]

The Vandy game was closer than the final school.

[Jack]

Game was closer. Yeah, like.

[Dave]

Yeah, I'm on again. The SEC is a. Is a mush. Everyone's mushed together. So I'm going to take Oklahoma here. And it's not really a ring. Endorsement of Oklahoma. It's. It's more. I think these teams are all fairly similar. So all just like why I took Texas against Georgia. Give me the point to hear. I think these games will be close.

[Jack]

Yeah, okay. I'm. Yeah, I have Oklahoma. I like Oklahoma in this game.

[Bosco]

Rico, I'm gonna take the over. Listen, Oklahoma defense is very good. Gave up 27 last week. 34 against Ole Miss. Like I 20, 45 and a half here. It's a little low. I'm going to go. I think we get some points. I'm going to take Alabama. Oklahoma over 45 and a half.

[Jack]

Okay, last game, Notre Dame at Pitt. Pit plus 11 and a half over under 55 and a half. Did you guys see what Pat Narduzzi said? No, Dave. It is one of the most bizarre things I've ever seen a coach so to the point where I'm actually. I am now so screwed up that I'm. I'm thinking he did it on purpose. Pat Narduzzi said on Monday, I believe so Pitt to set the table. Pitt obviously has this big game against Notre Dame. They are very much alive in the acc. They have two losses. So most likely the best way for them to get or the only way for them to get in the playoff is to win the acc. A reporter asked Pat Narduzzi, do you feel like the Notre Dame. Notre Dame game is a must win? He said, dave, absolutely not. It's not an ACC game. I'd gladly get beat 103 or 110 to 10. They could put 100 up on us as long as we win the next two after that.

[Dave]

Yeah, that's a crazy quote.

[Jack]

It's. It's. The problem is it's correct. You just never should say that. You shouldn't say it's your team. You shouldn't say it's anyone on your staff. He's right. That they can just don't make it public.

[Bosco]

Right.

[Jack]

They can lose this game and go to the playoff. So it does not matter. But it's a crazy Thing.

[Bosco]

Yeah.

[Dave]

That's a wild.

[Bosco]

It's at home. A lot of eyeballs on this. It is Notre Dame. Like, in places he doesn't want to talk about.

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

Game doesn't matter. But you don't say that publicly.

[Dave]

The only thing I can think it's a crazy quote to say publicly because you get crucified for it. Sometimes coaches, like, you want to take the pressure off of them, but in the locker room, you're. You're singing a different tune.

[Jack]

So.

[Dave]

Oh, you want your guys to play loose. Like, hey, this game doesn't matter. Go have fun. Like, have the time of your life. No pressure. Maybe I. But it's still stupid. It actually weirdly kind of makes me like Pittsburgh.

[Jack]

That's the thing. I've gone all the way around where I saw the quote. I was like, I got to take Notre Dame and enough time is settled. Where it was like, yeah, I think he maybe is doing this for a reason.

[Dave]

Like, just let it all hang out. Like, what do we care?

[Jack]

That's not something you say. But, like, it just.

[Dave]

The game means a lot more to Notre Dame. And, like, Notre Dame, if they lose, they're done.

[Bosco]

Right.

[Jack]

And it's. And it's like, you don't just blurt that. Like, it felt calculated because it's such a crazy quote.

[Bosco]

Yeah.

[Dave]

So pressure's on them.

[Jack]

So we're taking Pitts.

[Dave]

Give me Pittsburgh.

[Bosco]

No, I like the over. You can't run on either of these teams. Notre Dame, 16th rush D. Pitt, third rush, D. They're both pretty good. 13th pass offense, 23rd pass offense, and their past defenses are 79th and 80th. I think we're going to get some yards through the air here. I don't. I just think they have to throw the ball. I think we. I obviously. I think Notre Dame is going to score. Laying the 11 and a half there. I like. I like the over. I'm not laying the points. I like the over.

[Jack]

Notre Dame's defense, by the way, has big time turned a corner because they were. I think that I saw the stat. They've given up 21 points in the last seven second halves, which is. There's been a lot of garbage time, too, in that. So they've. They've turned the corner. That's why I would. I'm a little nervous about the over, but I'm thinking I'm gonna take pit. I'm take pit plus 11 and a half. I didn't think I was gonna take pit, but Narduzzi's got Me twisted up in the. In a pretzel. Okay. Do you want to do our cards?

[Bosco]

Yeah.

[Jack]

Dave, you want to start?

[Dave]

Interesting. I asked this. I'm just looking. So Ohio State's plus 200 to win the hole. I asked this on our big noon, like, pre meeting on Monday, and it was universal, I think. If you could have Ohio State versus the field, who would people take? Everyone to go. Iowa State to win the title versus the field.

[Bosco]

No, I want the field in. That is it.

[Jack]

Wait, what are the odds? Just straight up.

[Bosco]

The option.

[Dave]

Great. Even.

[Jack]

Oh, no, that's, that's, that's no way. That's people who don't gamble.

[Bosco]

Yeah. I want the field as good as Ohio State is. I want the fee. You got too many options. You got a good Bama, a good Georgia. You got Ole Miss, maybe lightning in a bottle. You got A and M. Oregon. Way too many options. Way too many. All right.

[Dave]

My card is tiny. I hate the card. Like, I can't bet on anyone to win the title because as long as Michigan is in it, I, I, I can't have it. If I was Notre Dame, 10 to 1 would actually be who I'd take.

[Bosco]

Really?

[Jack]

I have Texas Tech. I don't love it. I don't think they can win the title.

[Dave]

What are they at?

[Jack]

They are at. What are they at right now? Can you look it up? Jackie?

[Dave]

I like that too. They're big. I didn't see them on the front page. Where 18 to 1.

[Jack]

I am 60 to 1.

[Dave]

Great pick.

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Bosco]

But I still don't.

[Jack]

I kind of did. The pick being like, I don't. If it gets a thing get to the final Four, then I'm gonna have a head.

[Dave]

Listen, I, I go back to last year. The, the Big 12. Arizona State was a whisker.

[Jack]

You're right. I, I guess, I guess what I'm saying is I like my portfolio.

[Dave]

Yeah, you got a good portfolio.

[Bosco]

Comes back full circle.

[Dave]

You got a good portfolio. I have, like, the smallest car. I hate these cars. I have Oklahoma plus five and a half. Bama. I'm going to stick with North Carolina plus six and a half hands Wake. They've turned a corner. I've been on it. I like them catching points rather than Belichick playing like a pussy and playing NFL. But I will say there was something. So I was in the locker room after the Patriots won. It's the first time I've ever been in the locker room in a, like after a win, college or pro. But Kraft took me in there Vrabel Absolutely trucked. A camera guy trucked. Like, he came in the room. There's a camera guy sitting there. He, like, knocked him over to get to a speech after, because Brable's a good guy.

[Bosco]

He.

[Dave]

I saw him. He went over. He's like, sorry about that. I didn't see it. So he did apologize about he trucked. The camera guy also didn't love being in the locker room necessarily. Didn't feel like I belonged there. But it struck me like, Rabel's giving a great speech. He's like, today's Wednesday. Don't forget great win. But today's Wednesday because they play on Thursday night. So he's getting everybody going. And then you see Belichick in the locker room, like, giving his speech after beating Stanford in front of 12 people. It's like, man, the two. Two friends. I do like NC here, though. Yeah.

[Jack]

Wait, so wait, so we go into the locker room. Like, were you talking to guys?

[Dave]

So it's funny, you know, I used to know. I feel like all the guys, like, kind of personally, I don't know a lot of them now. Like, I know Variable McDaniel, like, said hi to Variable. Said hi to McDaniel. Will Campbell, who I love and I've DM came up. He's like, nice to meet you, sir. Like, we're doing proud. Like, so liked him. One guy I didn't recognize, like, I'm Big Pete, Ms. Peaches fan, but it's more the coaching staff. Like, I don't know a lot of guys. I don't even know the guys know who I am. That's why it's, like, kind of weird. Like, when you're in with the owner, you're not in. Like, it wasn't like, I. I didn't know what to do. I was just. Didn't want to really be in the way of what was going. It was cool to see the speeches, but I don't know a lot of the guys.

[Jack]

What?

[Dave]

I didn't see Drake.

[Jack]

You did. You did not see Drake.

[Dave]

He was the last one in. So by the. Like, you and gave a quick but, no, I didn't say hello to him. I saw him, but I didn't say hello to him.

[Jack]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dave]

Trayvon Henderson, for all I know, hates my guts.

[Bosco]

Who knows?

[Jack]

Yeah, probably. But he's got rivalry.

[Bosco]

He's got to know that now. You don't hate him. He's your guy.

[Dave]

I love him now. Yeah, I love him.

[Bosco]

That's how it works. Like.

[Dave]

Yeah, so there was that, and then I Like Mississippi State plus seven and a half against Missouri. Again. This is a nothing card. I hate the card.

[Jack]

There's nothing worse.

[Dave]

I know. I looked it up and down. Like, usually things just jump. It's like the pen's going. The pen's going at. You know what? Add Pittsburgh. Add Pittsburgh plus 12 and a half.

[Jack]

Okay. Rico.

[Bosco]

Yeah. Everything we talked about. I'm also going to take Iowa plus the 7. So, Dan, you must have loved how awesome was Tusk last week. You saw that?

[Jack]

What, the show?

[Bosco]

No, the guy. Fleetwood. Is it Mick Fleetwood?

[Jack]

Oh, I didn't. I didn't see that. He came out and played it.

[Bosco]

Yeah, dude, with the marching band.

[Jack]

Oh, I gotta watch it. I miss this video. I think. What was the. What was that?

[Bosco]

Send it right now.

[Jack]

Oh, it was. You know what it was? It was Friday night. We were in Mississippi. Yeah, I didn't watch the end of that game. We were. It was funny. We just. We were. Dave and I were staying in this apartment overlooking the field. And people knew where we were staying because they could see us watching the game. And at like 9:30, like, I think it was like two or three times, people just came knocking on the door asking for pictures and having to tell them. I answered the door, having to tell them that Dave was asleep. They were like, never meet your hero. Like, the one guy was just like, it's 9:30. I was like, yeah, dude, I don't know what you want me to say.

[Dave]

Gonna be up. I heard you say. I could hear you go, we gotta be up early.

[Jack]

Yeah, I was trying to. I was trying to help you. I was trying to try to cover for you. And then I. They're like, well, can we get a picture with you? I was like, sure. But it was just like, look, it's 9:30.

[Bosco]

Yeah.

[Dave]

I like to. I go to bed early. I'm up at 6:30. 6. I go to bed early. When cool creamy ranch meets tangy bold buffalo. The hole is greater than the sum of its sauce. Say howdy, partner. To new buffalo ranch sauce only at McDonald's for a limited time at participating McDonald's.

[Jack]

It was funny too, because the people were literally knocking on the door and just not. I was looking out the peephole. They just were not leaving. And I said to Dave in the morning, I was like, did you hear that? He's like, yeah, there were there. Nothing in the world would ever get me to go.

[Dave]

House could have been on fire. I sleep naked. I was naked underneath the covers. No shot I'm getting.

[Jack]

Yeah, it was they just wouldn't leave. They left and then they came back and they were taking.

[Dave]

I heard the knockout. I would have slept right through. I. I would have. There's no chance. Like I was getting up.

[Jack]

What. What were you gonna say? Oh, you sent it to me.

[Bosco]

I just sent it to you. Click the blog.

[Jack]

All right, keep going.

[Bosco]

Sorry. So, Jaden, my vea. Six interceptions in his last five games and I was past defenses, fourth in the country. I think they give him some problems. I originally like USC. I crossed it off. I like Iowa here plus the seven. North Texas first half -10 and a half. Utah State UNLV over 71 and a half. I'm going to take Delaware -9 and a half. Sam Houston State off a big massive win. I think Delaware takes care of business. San Diego State minus three in a big spot against Boise. New Mexico minus 14 and a half. I'm going to fade Colorado State again and I'll take Kansas State. Oklahoma State over 52 and a half.

[Jack]

Okay, my card. I have Ohio State, UCLA over 48 and a half. Delaware minus nine and a half. Mississippi State over 51 and a half. Penn State over 49. And then what was the Texas Tech line?

[Dave]

Obviously I hate hating a card. I mean, I'm going up and down. I can't find anything.

[Jack]

Texas Tech -23 and a half. Texas +6. Alabama +6. Everything else we talked about pit and that's it. Yeah, I hate the card too. I'll probably add a bunch, though. But I hate the card. It's the worst. It's the worst. Dave happened to me like a couple Sundays ago.

[Dave]

Last three college football cards I hated.

[Jack]

Yeah, a couple Sundays ago I was like. I looked at the board, I was like, I think I like one game. How do you live like that?

[Bosco]

Brutal.

[Jack]

You can't live like that. Okay, time for Immortals. I mean, Ebo's eight and three, I'm seven and four. Jack is six and four. Rico, you're six and five. Looks like Hank Zupy and Dave going to be pretty tough to. To get up there. Okay, Rico, you want to go first or you go last? Rico, why don't we go Zupy first?

[Bosco]

Yeah, I've got Utah minus eight and a half at Baylor.

[Jack]

Okay, Jack, I've got Virginia Duke over.

[Bosco]

57 and a half and Ebo has Texas plus two.

[Jack]

Okay, I'm going to take UNLV minus six at home against Utah State.

[Dave]

Dave, I take UNC plus the six and a half against Wake.

[Jack]

Okay, Rico.

[Bosco]

North Texas minus 18 and a half. Against UAB.

[Jack]

Think they outscore them.

[Bosco]

They keep going. Pedal to the metal.

[Jack]

First half, too.

[Bosco]

I took it. Yeah, but I like North Texas.

[Jack]

Give us the whole. Give them all of them.

[Bosco]

North Texas minus 18 and a half.

[Jack]

What are the other plays?

[Bosco]

North Texas first half minus 10 and a half.

[Jack]

And.

[Bosco]

And that's it.

[Jack]

No team total over.

[Bosco]

No. No team totals two. Okay. Dan's at eight. Dave's Eden. Okay. I know you were adding. I thought you went to the pen. I thought you were.

[Dave]

Oh, no, I was looking. I've been looking. I've been scrolling up and down trying to see again the South Florida Navy game. I keep looking at, but I. I can't get anything on it.

[Jack]

Yeah, it sucks. This is the worst. The action last night, by the way, boys, was incredible. Always delivers. It always delivers. Okay, Rico. I'll probably add North Texas later. Look at it more. Okay, good show, boys. Next week and we'll see. Come out to Murphy's. Yeah. At Wrigley on. On Saturday morning. It's gonna be a great time. We'll see everyone there.

[Dave]

All right.

[Jack]

See ya.