Episode 80: ‘Unicorn’ (Ginger Cox)

Summary

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Bawdy Storytelling – Episode 80: "Unicorn" (Ginger Cox)

Host: Dixie De La Tour
Storyteller: Ginger Cox
Release Date: June 27, 2019

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Episode Overview

This episode of Bawdy Storytelling centers on the journey of a "unicorn"—the rare and sought-after single woman who joins couples for sex. Ginger Cox takes the stage to share the evolution of her sexual identity, her experiences in swinging and stripping, and how her confidence shifted throughout her life. Host Dixie De La Tour sets the stage with an honest reflection about the power of storytelling to create community and personal growth, reinforcing Bawdy Storytelling's mission: to foster liberation, honesty, and humor around sexuality through real-life narratives.

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Key Discussion Points & Story Breakdown

1. Dixie's Reflections and Setting the Stage

• Gratitude and Community: Dixie opens by sharing personal moments of gratitude, emphasizing the transformative impact the podcast has on listeners’ lives and the community it fosters.
  • She reads a heartfelt iTunes review and recounts meaningful fan interactions.
  • Quote [02:08]: “She says she feels less ashamed of who she is and more empowered because of Bawdy’s podcast.”
• Why Vulnerability Matters: Dixie describes the behind-the-scenes coaching that shapes Bawdy’s stories—not just sexy antics, but honest, emotional arcs.
  • She explains the “unicorn” theme, the search for stories from women who fit this elusive role, and her coaching process with Ginger.
  • Quote [07:51]: “You have to get on stage in front of hundreds of people and you have to get real.”

2. Ginger Cox’s Story: From Sexual Awakening to Unicornhood

Early Experiences and Exploration (09:07–13:00)

• Ginger introduces her first forays into same-sex experimentation as a teenager, often using her sexuality to tease men.
  • The relationship with her friend Kim set the stage for later exploration.
• Meeting Peggy: At a party, Ginger encounters Peggy, a confident woman with "huge boobs," igniting Ginger’s fascination.
  • First All-Female Encounter: Peggy expresses direct interest—"I want you, you, you. But I don’t want Troy." ([11:43])
  • Ginger’s husband, Troy, gives his blessing, and Ginger describes her nerves and first orgasm from oral sex.
  • Memorable Moment [12:47]: “I’d already been married four years.”
  • Ginger admits uncertainty in pleasuring Peggy and asks for a tutorial, making the scene humorous and relatable.

Introduction to Swinging and the World of Couples (13:00–15:27)

• Inspired by her time with Peggy, Ginger and Troy join a swingers club (Club Nympho) and meet couples like Karen and Butch.
  • Karen is described as a Pamela Anderson lookalike; Butch, the "fit" George Costanza.
  • Ginger’s insecurities about her own body—with smaller breasts post-pregnancy—contrast with the surgically enhanced women at the club.
  • These experiences expand her horizons and lead to ongoing group sex adventures.

Transformation Through Stripping and Body Image (15:27–17:50)

• Following the breakdown of her marriage, Ginger turns to stripping to support her daughter, gaining the money (and incentive) for breast implants—"Cinnamon and Sugar."
  • Quote [15:38]: “And that’s when Cinnamon and Sugar were born.”
  • With new confidence, she becomes a headliner at the iconic Outhouse strip club, detailing its rowdy, anything-goes atmosphere outside city lines.
  • She tries (and fails) to seduce a “Superman” bachelor at a strip club, which leads her to Karen and Butch’s house for her first true "unicorn" experience—being the third in a couple.

Becoming a True Unicorn and Evolution Beyond (17:50–18:45)

• Ginger recounts her travels as a dancer around the U.S. and her eventual career pivot to nursing.
  • Self-Realization: Stripping and sex work led to the discovery that confidence—not breast size—made her sexy.
  • She describes her decision to “explant,” removing her implants, and reclaiming her self-worth irrespective of body modifications.
  • Empowering Conclusion [18:38]:

    “Who needs Cinnamon and Sugar when you have Ginger Pie?”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On being a director in bed:

  “‘It’s your turn to be the director of our sex scene.’ ... So I tell them to take off their clothes and kiss me ...” — Ginger Cox ([09:09])

• Early sexual awakening:

  “My sexual exploitation started when I was 16... We would make out in front of all the boys to tease them.” — Ginger Cox ([09:50])

• Sexual education through experience:

  “I’m so bad at this. But you know what? So is my husband! So do you think we could ask him to come up here and you could teach us how to give head?” — Ginger Cox ([13:09])

• Body image transformation:

  “Within five months, I had the money to buy myself some breast implants. And that’s when Cinnamon and Sugar were born.” — Ginger Cox ([15:38])

• On confidence and sexuality:

  “Sexy is not determined by the size of my breasts, but actually by the confidence I hold in myself when I walk in a room.” — Ginger Cox ([18:20])

• Final punchline:

  “Who needs Cinnamon and Sugar when you have Ginger Pie?” — Ginger Cox ([18:40])

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 00:01–08:57 — Host Dixie’s check-in, gratitude, and the story's backstory
• 08:57–09:07 — Transition/setup for Ginger’s story
• 09:07–18:45 — Ginger Cox’s full storytelling set, from adolescence to adult sexuality and body acceptance
• 18:45–22:26 — (Song): "The Glitter Song" by Shirley Noem

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Tone & Style

• Intimate, raw, and humorous storytelling
• Emphasizes vulnerability, honesty, and the normalization of non-traditional sexual identities
• Mixes light-hearted anecdotes with moments of poignant self-realization

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Summary Takeaway

Ginger Cox’s tale is a rich, honest account of sexual exploration, self-acceptance, and growth. She demystifies the idea of the "unicorn" not just as the fantasy third, but as a woman evolving through her own desires, mistakes, body changes, and, ultimately, confidence.

Listeners come away with the understanding that the sexiest asset is authenticity—and that claiming your story can be the most liberating act of all.

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Host’s sign-off:
Dixie urges listeners to embrace their own uniqueness and keep challenging shame through connection and storytelling.

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[End of summary]

Transcript

[A]

The podcast you're about to listen to is explicit. It's dirty. I'm gonna say butthole. So let's have a little time, just us, me and you. Put your earbuds in and let's go.

[B]

All of my life I've never fit. But I won't complain and I won't quit. I am enorm.

[C]

Get used to it.

[B]

Everyone tells me I'm too much. Maybe it's just you're not enough for me. Can't you see I'm the kind of woman I'm supposed to be? Hey, my vagina is. Eat my swipe. Absolutely everyone can come inside. If you're ever frightened, just run and hide. My vagina is eight miles.

[A]

Hi there, and welcome to the Body Storytelling Podcast. I am sexual folklorist Dixie Delator, and this is episode 80 of the podcast. I don't know about you, but this has been a hard week. The things going on with our government are atrocious. And rather than be bedridden because I can't deal with the way the world is working right now, one of the ways that I cope with things is I have a planner, and I like to sit down and write down the good things that happened that week. And I use a passion planner, if you like paper planners. And it has a spot right in there that says good things that happened this week. It's kind of helped me focus on the positive. And I want to tell you a couple of the ones I wrote this week. Five things I'm grateful for, in no particular order. One of them is this itunes review, and it says, this podcast is a life changer for me. It helped me to realize the beauty and validity of my sexuality, empowered me for radical life changes, and still remains one of the most intense power sources for me. Thank you, Dixie. Thank you, person who wrote that podcast review that gets me out of bed. Stuff like that, knowing what people think makes such a huge difference to me. Thank you. And then I had bawdy this past Thursday, and a couple walked up to me and they told me that they had driven from Las Vegas just to come to that show that night. Now, think about this. Our show is on a weeknight. So these people not only drove for 10 hours, they took a couple days off work. It's June. Driving from Las Vegas is kind of daunting, and I was just so thrilled to see them there in person. She says she feels less ashamed of who she is and more empowered because of bodies podcast. Why did I fight podcasting so hard? Then I got to have late night burritos with Shirley Noem after she performed at Bawdy's Best Fiend show this week. And it was really great to have her flying all the way from Vancouver, Canada, to eat a burrito and kind of catch up. We only get to do that a few times a year when she performs at my show. You know I told you how last week. This is number four, by the way. You know I told you GQ magazine listed us as a Best of podcast from GQ magazine. They've never even noticed us before, and now we're on their Best of for Sex podcast. We were also voted one of the best adult industry podcasts. This week we're winning a lot of best of. See Podcasting. I told you I should have done it a long time ago. Yesterday I was out running some errands and I walked out of the Salvation army on Valencia street in San Francisco when somebody stopped me and said, you're Dixie de La Tour. Like, yeah. And they said, holy shit. Thank you for the work you do in the world. Thank you for body storytelling. It's such a gift. Can you imagine your life looking like that? I never thought my life would look like this. And some days I just want to lay in bed and zone out on Netflix and not try. And I'm just one person. But all these people are telling me that me, just one person, is making a difference. I know that what's going on in the world is hard right now, but I'm gonna ask you to do the same thing. You can make a change, too. Whatever it is, whether it's fighting the government or telling somebody who they are is okay, or invite them out to do something. Lifting a helping hand to somebody else makes your life better. It really does. Let's get to the part of the job I'm supposed to be doing. Are you ready for this week's story? I need to tell you the story behind this story. Because so many people ask me about the process of people getting on stage at Bodi. They wonder if these people just went to this intensely emotional and vulnerable place on their own. Were they born with that ability? Or do we find it together? And it's the latter, y'. All. This storyteller came to our April show in San Francisco, and it was her first body storytelling ever. And when I announced that for my birthday in May, the theme was going to be Unicorn Fest. And I will admit to you, I made it that theme because Rachel Arc has a song called the Unicorn Song, and I love it, but also I wanted to know if such a thing exists. I mean, unicorns are. You know, one way to describe a unicorn is the single female who hooks up with men, women, and couples. And does that really exist? I mean, they're called unicorns for a reason. So I put out a call, said, if you identify as a unicorn, I'd love to have your story. And I got a pitch. And the pitch was pretty much, you know that thing in your sock drawer that is the list of all the people you slept with? Well, I keep it in my sock drawer. You've probably done it on Google spreadsheets because you're smarter than I am. But it's kind of a list of all the people that you've slept with. In her case, it was a list of all the couples she'd slept with. And that was pretty much her story. It was a list of names and not a lot of details, except for an occasional. And they were hot. And I got on Zoom with her because I do story coaching on zoom with my performers so that I can see their face and explain to them what's going on. And I told her what we really needed was not the litany of 25 or more couples to fill out the 10 minutes she was gonna spend on stage. What we really needed was kind of like the evolution of being a unicorn emotionally. What she cares about, why she tells this story. And I could see that her face was falling, because that's a lot harder than it sounds. You have to take not just all your crazy sexual antics, but you have to talk about what you care about, what you're afraid of. You have to get on stage in front of hundreds of people, and you have to get real. And from the look on her face, I knew that she was probably going to back out. And finally, after a pause, she looked at me and she said, can't I just be sexy? And I said, no, that's not what we do at Bodi. I waited the next morning to get the email that said, I quit. This doesn't sound nearly as fun as I thought it was going to be. Instead, I got a brand new pitch, and attached to it was the message, coach, I'm gonna make you proud. And this whole new aspect of the story came out. Something I never expected, something that hadn't been in any of the two or three earlier coachings that we'd done together. And she floored me. She was so great. This was her first time getting on stage. She looked amazing up there in her red dress. And yes, unicorns do exist. This story is from Ginger Cox.

[B]

Is that okay?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Is that good?

[C]

Okay. So it's 3am And I'm in Lawrence, Kansas, and I'm at Karen and Butch's doorstep. And I'm excited and horny. And Karen grabs me by the hand and leads me back to their bedroom. And Butch says to me, it's your turn to be the director of our sex scene. Like, okay. So I tell them to take off their clothes and kiss me. And then I instruct her to sit on his cock. And I sit on his face. And as she's writing him, I get really excited and I get off and I start masturbating as I'm watching them. And then we all come, and Butch looks at me and he says, so you called us at 3am in the morning to watch us fuck? Like, well, yeah, I did. Later I learned that when Butch is the director, everybody gets dick. So my sexual exploitation started when I was 16 and had this friend named Kim that looked kind of like Marilyn Monroe. And we would make out in front of all the boys to tease them. And then I met Troy. And Troy was in a band. He played the guitar. He kind of looked like Vince Neil from Motley Crue, but he was made like Tommy Lee down there, which I liked a little bit too much because I got pregnant right out of high school. Yeah. And at 19 years old, my breasts shrunk to cup sizes. And honestly, before this happened, I don't even remember what my boobs looked like. But now they're smaller, they're saggier. And I become obsessed with women with really large breasts. So Troy and I are at a party where his band's playing. And I see Peggy from across the room. And she has long blond hair and big, huge boobs. And I'm staring at her. She kind of looks like Reese Witherspoon in the face. And she comes over and sits down by me and starts talking to me. And we start kissing and making out and teasing all the boys. And it's driving my husband wild. Well, we continue to see Peggy at these house parties over and over again and. And she knew I loved her big boobs. And she would tease me by pulling them out. She could lick her own nipples. So she'd pull them out in front of me and lick her own nipples and be like, yes. So this night, it's Peggy's 21st birthday. I said, hey, Peggy, what do you.

[A]

Want for your birthday?

[C]

She said, ginger, you know what? I want you. I want you, you, you. But I don't want Troy. I'm like, wait a minute. Like, we've talked about this a little, but I always thought I'd be doing it with him. And she's like, it's my birthday. Can you just ask him and see what he says? So I go and ask my husband, and he says, all right, go ahead, babe. Enjoy yourself. And I'll be downstairs if you two need any dick. Okay? So it's my first time getting past second base with a woman, and I'm nervous. So Peggy starts it by putting my hands on her breast. I'm feeling her breast, and she starts licking them. And then she makes her way down my body, one soft, slow kiss at a time, until she reaches there and she starts to give me head. And within three minutes, I have an orgasm. This is my first orgasm from oral sex, by the way.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I'd already been married four years.

[A]

So.

[C]

Now it's my turn to go down on Peggy. And I'm down there, and I'm getting no response. I have no idea what I'm doing. I hadn't even had an orgasm up until this point from oral sex. Like, I'm really bad at this. So I stop, and I'm like, peggy, I'm sorry. I am so bad at this. But you know what? So is my husband. So do you think we could ask him to come up here and you could teach us how to give head? She's like, yes, Ginger, go get him. So bring Troy upstairs. And they take turns. She demonstrates. He returns the demonstration. I'm having a great time. And then Peggy grabs my hand, and she puts her tongue to the tip of my finger. And she says, this is how I want you to practice, Ginger. And she flicks it like, okay, Peggy, I'll practice. She's like, but make sure you apply pressure. Okay, I got that. So Peggy came back and visited us several times, but actually mainly when my husband was at work. So as time progressed, this relationship with Peggy really opened our minds. So my husband and I decided to join a swingers club in Kansas City called Club Nympho. Yeah, and that's where we met Karen and Butch. Now, Karen had long blonde hair and huge breast implants, and she looked like she could be jogging along the beach with Pamela Anderson. And her husband Butch kind of looked like George Costanza from Seinfeld. But the fit version. He's the fit version. My husband was instantly intrigued by her because she took a beer bottle from him and put the whole thing in her mouth, all the way down and pulled it out and Handed it back. And he's like, you, Yes, I want to have sex with this girl. I was a little intimidated because her, like all the other women in the swingers club, had huge implants, and I was pretty flat from having the baby. But we worked it out, and we had a great sexy journey together. Pretty soon, my marriage wasn't working out, and I knew I had to be able to support my daughter. And my secretary's salary wasn't going to cut it. So I took a job as a stripper. And within five months, I had the money to buy myself some breast implants. And I remembered that Karen, out of everybody, had the best boobs I'd ever seen. So I called her up and I was like, karen, who's your doctor? Dr. Quinn.

[A]

Ginger.

[C]

Go get him. Okay. So I went to Dr. Quinn and I got my breast implants. And that's when Cinnamon and Sugar were born. Yeah. And Cinnamon Sugar gave me this great self confidence that I didn't have before. And with that, I went and got a job at the most popular strip club in Kansas, called the Outhouse. Yes, this place was popular because it was in a cornfield outside of city lines. And because it was outside of city lines, you could get a naked lap dance. You could bring your own booze, and you could touch the girls a little. So people came from all over. They'd chug their beer coolers in with them, and we'd run out of seats, and we'd actually give naked lap dances on top of beer coolers. So this night, I'm dancing for this super hot bachelor, and he looks like Superman. He's, like, buff and hot, and he likes me. His friends are buying him lap dances all night, and I'm hot, naked, grinding him, and I'm really getting turned on. And I ask him if he wants to fuck, and he's. He's like, babe, you're beautiful. But I'm getting married next week. I just can't do it. And then I remember that Karen and Butch lived down the street from me. Actually, they live down the street from my work. So I head over to their house, and this is going to be the first time they meet Cinnamon Sugar. And this is going to be my first unicorn experience. So as time progressed, the relationship with Karen and Butch faded, and I started traveling and dancing. I danced in New York and Miami and Las Vegas until I landed in New Orleans one year post Katrina. And it was crazy there because there was construction workers from all over with huge wads of cash and all their wives were in other states. So I was making crazy money. So I decided to go back to school and become a nurse. Yeah. And as my career in dancing came to an end, I realized a few things. That sexy is not determined by the size of my breast. Yeah. But actually by the confidence that I hold in myself when I walk in a room. So in the past year, I decided to exit plant. Yeah. And I feel amazing and free. And one of my friends said to me, you know, I think this is an identity changing procedure for you. And I thought about that after she said it. And you know what? When I was 20 years old, it was an identity changing procedure. But at 40 it is not. I am confident in who I am. I feel sexy. I feel secure. And smaller breasts have not changed my sex life. And anyways, who needs cinnamon and sugar when you have ginger pie?

[B]

It's called the Glitter Song. I'm a devastatin diva with perfect pitch A bonafide busty buxom badass bitch But I drink too much, I party too hard I woke up in my yard I didn't take a cab cause I'm too cheap I fell off my bike I fell asleep that's the best I can guess Cause my memory's a mess My neighbors don't seem very impressed that's when it hit me in the morning light under my clothes something wasn't right I took a peek underneath what did I find? Mystery glitter where the sun don't shine Whose glitter glitter is this all over my glitterus? I've had a shower 25 times I can't get the glitter off this over mine Whose glitter, Whose glitter? Whose glitter is this all over? All over the place where I pass Glitter when I sneeze glitter when I cough it's been a couple weeks I still can't get it off I know what they say now I know what they shout Glitter is like herpes and I am breaking out Glitter in my panties, glitter in my shoe When I took a dump There was glitter in my boo. Glitter on my clothes, on everything I worn I think I might have fucked a unicorn oh and just to be clear with this crowd I mean the mythical creature Not a third in a.

[C]

Relationship.

[B]

When I saw my reflection I looked so good Like a diamond in the rough with all these sparkles upon.

[C]

My mouth.

[B]

It'S itchy and it's scratchy yeah and it burns down below but the glitter in my soul is like the glitter on my hole this glitter, glitter is bliss all over my glitter Cuz I've had a shower 25 times but I never want the glitter off this bubble of my aim I gotta have it I gotta have it now that I've tried so tell me where did that unicorn where did that unicorn where did that unicorn hide? I wanna go for another ride Shine bright like vagina Shine bright like vagina Shine bright like vagina Beautiful for jeans between our thighs Shine bright like vagina I'm glad you all remember this song.

[C]

That's good.

[B]

Shine bright like vagina hey, San Francisco. Shine bright la vagina. Thank you.

[A]

That was the glitter song by Bawdy's BFF, Shirley Noemi. Folks, I can't do this without you. I really need you to help support this podcast. If you go to P A t r e o-n.com body patreon.com and give it whatever level you can, I think that we can come back from this hiatus to bigger episodes. I think that we are going to be able to do what I really want to do, which is give you kind of a variety of stories, music, more. I want to give you more on this podcast, but I can't do it without your help. Please go to patreon.com body and give it whatever level you can. Thanks in advance for your support. You know how I like to say that a live body storytelling is the culmination of me having a lot of bad ideas. Well, at the latest show, we were offering sibian rides and I will tell you that will make the audience think this is some good storytelling right here. All it takes is a couple orgasms on a sibian. So I'm gonna tell you about upcoming bawdy storytellings. And guess what? The list is short because I'm about to go on hiatus on July 11th in Seattle. The theme is Bottoms. True stories of Anal drinking and or submission. Pick one or all. We've got Creature Hole as our musical act and they're working on a new song for me. Y', all. If you show up in person, you'll get to hear the song at the exact same moment I get to hear the song. That's the best. We get to experience it together. Live theater and shit. And then that's our last show in Seattle for a long time. So please be at the July 11 show in Seattle. It's gonna be a couple months before I get to see your face again on July 18th in San Francisco. Our last show before hiatus in San Francisco. The theme is all the Way. We're gonna have our Winnosibian contest continuing. We tried something new at A recent show, and it worked really well. So if you show up in person, you might end up on Stage at the July 18 Bawdy Storytelling in San Francisco. Wouldn't that be cool? On Saturday, July 27, I'll be performing at the National Storytelling Summit's showcase of the best stories of the past year. That's a huge honor, and I'm terrified, so I would love to see your face there. They have day passes. It's in Fremont, California, and you can find it by Googling National Storytelling Summit or by messaging me. I'm happy to connect you. And then that's it for a while. Maybe you'll be booking your trip to come to San Francisco for Folsom Street Fair. I've had so many people who've moved never heard of Folsom Street Fair, the largest kink event in the world. They've heard about it through the Body Storytelling podcast, and they're like, well, you said it's good. So we're traveling from Texas and Vegas and places all over the country. Some people are coming in from Europe and they're like, well, I know that body's gonna be there, so I can see bawdy that night. But I can also go to the world's largest kink street fair during the day and then enjoy my very first body in San Francisco that night. That is a double whammy of weirdness. I highly recommend it if you're kinky. Even if you're not kinky, the Folsom Street Fair is something you want to tick off your bucket list. I guarantee it. And that's it for upcoming shows for body Storytelling. Foreign to say thank you. Thank you to podcast producer Marty Garcia. Thank you to project manager Dana Hanna. Thank you to sound engineer David Grossoff. Thank you to video archivist Joe Moore. We're gonna have some of Joe's work for you really soon. New videos are coming. And thank you to you. Thank you for listening. Thank you for subscribing. Every time that you mention the podcast, every time that you subscribe or write us a review or any of those things, it means that we are guaranteed to keep going. It means we'll grow. And it means that more people are going to feel okay with who they are in their skin. They're going to be happy with who they are, feel less judged. And you did that. I'm sexual folklorist Dixie de La Tour, and this has been episode 80 of the Body Storytelling podcast. Here's a peek at what's next, because this thing is fucking huge.

[C]

Like there's dick and then there's dick.

[A]

Like, sometimes it's not a dick you want. Every day it's like, prime rip.