
Jason Carroll is serving life in prison for a murder he says he didn’t commit. The only evidence against him? His own taped confession. More than 30 years later, is it possible to get to the truth – and who gets to tell it?
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A terrible discovery in the woods of New Hampshire. That's how the first season of Bear Brook begins. It's also how another separate mystery began. Around the same time, in the summer of 1988, in an area just 15 miles from Bear Brook State park, police were called to the scene of of a different murder. A woman, seven months pregnant was found stabbed and strangled. This time the case didn't go cold. Police solved the mystery. They tracked down the killers and got them to confess. She struggled. Jason drove a knife in her back, stabbed her again. I choked her, fell to the ground. How many times did you stab her? All. But what if the police were wrong? What if the confessions were just a story? From New Hampshire Public Radio, Bear Brook Season 2 A True Crime story. I'm Jason Moon. A story about a man who's been in prison for more than three decades because of what he said to police as a 19 year old. A story about the power of words on tape. There are going to be continued and repeated attacks that the police coerced, intimidated, promised, threatened. Mothers will do whatever they have to do to try to protect their kids. A story about what happens when an official narrative is challenged by new storytellers.
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Our story can change.
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Their story just won't.
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These convictions take on this myth, ethical power. Once this conviction happened, it's like that story is what happened. Jason Carroll is where he belongs, where he deserves to be. And he needs to stay there. He took away my mother's life. My life. You're screaming at the top of your lungs that you know you didn't do something and it's almost as if the world can't hear you.
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I am tired of being looked at like I'm some kind of animal. A story about the line that separates what we used to believe from what we now know.
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People really have a hard time understanding, why would you confess to something that you didn't commit? Why would you confess to something as horrible as a rape or a murder if you didn't actually do that? What are you? I need to stop for a second.
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After 35 years, is it still possible to get to the truth? And who gets to tell it? That's all on bear Brook. Season 2 A True Crime story.
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We can't be satisfied anymore. We can't be satisfied with the endings.
Podcast: Bear Brook
Host: Jason Moon
Episode: Season 2: Another Mystery
Release Date: January 23, 2023
Overview
In the gripping episode titled “Another Mystery” from Season 2 of Bear Brook, host Jason Moon delves deep into the controversial case of Jason Carroll. Serving over three decades in prison for a murder he asserts he did not commit, Carroll's only evidence hinges on his own taped confession. This episode meticulously explores the complexities surrounding his conviction, the potential flaws in the investigation, and the broader implications for the criminal justice system.
The episode opens by recounting a chilling discovery in the woods of New Hampshire—a grim echo of the first season's haunting beginnings. Unlike the unresolved mysteries of Season 1, Carroll's case initially seemed straightforward.
Jason Moon (Host) [00:31]: "Around the same time, in the summer of 1988... police solved the mystery. They tracked down the killers and got them to confess."
In 1988, a woman seven months pregnant was found brutally stabbed and strangled near Bear Brook State Park. The police swiftly identified and apprehended Jason Carroll, whose confession became the cornerstone of the prosecution’s case.
Carroll’s confession is the linchpin of his conviction. The episode scrutinizes the circumstances under which this confession was obtained, raising critical questions about its authenticity.
Jason Moon [01:15]: "A story about the power of words on tape."
At 3 minutes and 4 seconds into the episode, Moon highlights Carroll's perplexing decision to confess to a crime he maintains he didn’t commit, probing the psychological and investigative factors that might have influenced this outcome.
Jason Moon [03:04]: "People really have a hard time understanding, why would you confess to something that you didn't commit?"
As the narrative unfolds, the episode delves into allegations that Carroll’s confession may have been coerced through repeated and aggressive police interrogation tactics.
Jason Moon [02:25]: "Our story can change."
Responsive Voice [02:27]: "Their story just won't."
This exchange underscores the tension between evolving narratives and entrenched official accounts, suggesting that Carroll’s conviction has solidified into an almost unchallengeable myth.
Thirty-five years into his imprisonment, the quest to uncover the truth about Carroll’s guilt—or innocence—has intensified. The episode examines the challenges faced by those advocating for him, including societal biases and systemic barriers within the legal framework.
Responsive Voice [02:54]: "I am tired of being looked at like I'm some kind of animal."
This poignant statement reflects Carroll’s enduring frustration and the personal toll of prolonged incarceration based solely on his confession.
The episode explores the resistance encountered when attempting to revise the established narrative of Carroll's guilt. It highlights the enduring power of official stories and the difficulties new evidence or perspectives face in altering public and legal perceptions.
Jason Moon [03:30]: "After 35 years, is it still possible to get to the truth? And who gets to tell it?"
This rhetorical question encapsulates the core dilemma: determining the true story amidst decades of entrenched beliefs and the authority granted to original investigations.
“Another Mystery” thoughtfully considers the broader implications of Carroll’s case on the criminal justice system. It raises ethical questions about the reliability of confessions, especially those obtained under duress, and the obligation to re-examine past convictions in light of new evidence or methodologies.
In wrapping up, the episode emphasizes the necessity for continual reassessment of convictions, especially those hinging on potentially flawed confessional evidence. It advocates for a more nuanced approach to investigating murders, one that prioritizes truth and justice over procedural expediency.
Jason Moon [03:44]: "We can't be satisfied anymore. We can't be satisfied with the endings."
This closing remark serves as a call to action, urging listeners and stakeholders to remain vigilant and committed to uncovering the truth, regardless of time elapsed.
Notable Quotes
Jason Moon (Host) [00:31]: "A terrible discovery in the woods of New Hampshire. That's how the first season of Bear Brook begins. It's also how another separate mystery began."
Jason Moon [03:04]: "People really have a hard time understanding, why would you confess to something that you didn't commit?"
Responsive Voice [02:54]: "I am tired of being looked at like I'm some kind of animal."
Jason Moon [03:30]: "After 35 years, is it still possible to get to the truth? And who gets to tell it?"
Jason Moon [03:44]: "We can't be satisfied anymore. We can't be satisfied with the endings."
Final Thoughts
"Another Mystery" stands as a compelling chapter in Bear Brook’s exploration of true crime, challenging listeners to rethink preconceived notions about justice and the power of confessions. Through meticulous storytelling and poignant interviews, Jason Moon invites a deeper contemplation of what it truly means to seek the truth in the murky waters of criminal investigations.
For those intrigued by the interplay between law, ethics, and human psychology, this episode offers a thought-provoking journey into a case that continues to resonate decades later.
Listen to Bear Brook Season 2: Another Mystery, available wherever you get your podcasts.