Carvana Crashes 10-31-25 - Becker Business

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Episode: Carvana Crashes 10-31-25
Host: Scott Becker
Date: October 31, 2025

Episode Overview

In this episode, Scott Becker delves into the recent dramatic drop in Carvana’s stock price, despite reportedly strong sales figures. The focus is on understanding the disconnect between Carvana’s positive performance metrics and the negative market reaction, exploring underlying concerns about the sustainability and legitimacy of its sales growth amidst rising auto delinquencies.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Carvana’s Recent Performance (00:12 – 00:35)

Carvana reported a record quarter with 150,000 vehicles sold.
Despite outstanding sales, Carvana’s stock fell 13% on the day.
Year-to-date: The stock remains up 51%, and up 50% over the year.

2. Reasons for Stock Decline (00:36 – 01:10)

Projected Drop in Sales: The coming (fourth) quarter is expected to be weaker than the third quarter.
Major Issue – Risky Lending Practices: Persistent doubts linger over whether Carvana’s sales spike is propped up by unsustainable and aggressive lending.

3. Auto Delinquencies and Aggressive Lending (01:10 – 02:04)

The conversation broadens to the rising level of auto delinquencies nationwide.
Factors:
- Car prices have soared, yet consumers continue to buy, often without being able to truly afford the vehicles.
- Lenders (including Carvana) may be issuing more and riskier loans to keep up sales volume.
Analogy Drawn: Comparison is made to the mortgage crisis of 2008–2009, where lax lending fueled unsustainable growth and eventual collapse.

4. Short Seller Allegations & Skepticism (02:05 – 02:44)

Short sellers have accused Carvana of artificially inflating sales numbers through excessive, almost predatory, lending—mirroring the subprime mortgage fiasco.
Debate exists as to whether Carvana’s impressive stats are genuine or “smoke and mirrors.”

5. Ongoing Doubts and Uncertainty (02:45 – end)

No clear consensus: Scott emphasizes that it’s uncertain if the rumors are true, but questions will persist until Carvana’s lending practices and exposure to delinquencies are clarified.

Memorable Quotes & Key Moments

On the paradoxical market reaction:

“Carvana had essentially a record quarter of car sales… They fell notwithstanding that, 13% today, but they are up 51% year to date and 50% over the last year.”
— Scott Becker [00:12]
On rumored lending risks:

“What people essentially say about Carvana… is that they're more subject to auto delinquencies than a lot of others. And you're seeing a great increase right now in auto delinquencies in the country.”
— Scott Becker [01:22]
On the mortgage crisis analogy:

“Some say…Carvana inflates their car sales by doing so much aggressive lending, almost like we had during the mortgage crisis of 2008, 2009, that people were buying more house than they could really afford…”
— Scott Becker [01:47]
On industry-wide skepticism:

“That's always the Carvana mystery as to whether they're playing real with their stats or they're inflating sales through extensive loans that shouldn't be given to people, and whether ultimately have that come due at some point with more delinquencies.”
— Scott Becker [02:35]

Key Segments and Timestamps

Carvana’s Performance vs. Stock Movement: 00:12 – 00:35
Anticipated Decline Next Quarter & Problem Summary: 00:36 – 01:10
Risks of Aggressive Lending and Automobile Delinquencies: 01:10 – 02:04
Short Seller Claims and Mortgage Crisis Analogy: 02:05 – 02:44
Lingering Uncertainties & Conclusion: 02:45 – End

Tone and Delivery

Scott Becker maintains a measured and inquisitive tone throughout the episode, presenting facts and market rumors without adopting an alarmist stance. He differentiates clearly between speculation and verified information, inviting listeners to reflect on underlying systemic risks.

Bottom Line:
The episode frames Carvana’s sharp stock dip as emblematic of deeper skepticism about the company’s business model. While headline sales are robust, persistent doubts around subprime auto lending and a possible repeat of past financial crises keep the story relevant and unresolved.

Transcript

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This is Scott Becker with the Becker Business, the Becker private equity podcast. Today we're going to talk about a stock that we find so interesting. We're going to talk about Carvana. And today's discussion will be Carvana crashes. And here's the deal with Carvana today. Carvana had essentially a record quarter of car sales. I think they sold 150,000 vehicles, a great, great quarter. They fell notwithstanding that, 13% today, but they are up 51% year to date and 50% over the last year. So what's the problem with Carvana and why are they plunging today? The big reason that Carvana is really plunging is as follows. On one hand, vehicle sales for the next quarter are projected to be lower than this quarter. So that's. That's one. The fourth quarter won't be as good as the third quarter. The bigger issue with Carvana, that goes back to the oldest Carvana issue out there, is whether or not a lot of Carvana's sales are built on smoke and mirrors. And what people essentially say about Carvana, at least some do. And we watch this, we don't know if it's true or not true, but the thought is that they're more subject to auto delinquencies than a lot of others. And you're seeing a great increase right now in auto delinquencies in the country. And you're seeing that increase because people extend credit for more expensive vehicles. Vehicles get more expensive. People want to buy those vehicles, but they really can't afford them. So you're seeing a higher level of auto delinquency. We've seen in a long time. Carvana is always rumored. And there's a short seller that did a whole study on this, and then they had a whole fight with Carvana. So I don't want to get too far deep into this, but. But essentially made the case that Carvana inflates their car sales by doing so much aggressive lending, almost like we had during the mortgage crisis of 2008, 2009, that people were buying more house than they could really afford based on giving them more loans and bigger mortgages than they really should have. And that was really the take during the mortgage crisis, 2002, 2008, 2009. A lot of people think there's something similar going on in the car industry, where people are selling cars at much higher prices, but giving out loans that people really can't afford. And that's always the Carvana mystery as to whether they're playing real with their stats or they're inflating sales through extensive loans that shouldn't be given to people, and whether ultimately have that come due at some point with more delinquencies. We'll see how it goes. I mean, there's lots of discussion this issue. Thank you for listening to the Becker Business, the Becker Private equity podcast. Thank you very, very much.