
In this episode, Holly Buckley, Chair of Healthcare at McGuireWoods, shares insights on key regulatory changes impacting healthcare private equity, current trends in the deal market, and her team’s focus areas for the remainder of the year,
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This is Scott Becker with the Becker Private Equity in the Becker Business podcast. I'm thrilled today to joined by Holly Buckley. Holly chairs the healthcare department McGuire Woods. She also works and lives at the intersection of health care and private equity and business. She's going to talk to say about three quick subjects. First, some regulatory updates that she's watching in the private equity health care world. Second, what's going on in the deal market and third, where she and her team are most focused for the remainder of this year. Holly, let me turn it to you.
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Thank you. And Scott, congratulations on your Apple podcast rankings. Just amazing success and congrats on being top of the chart.
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Thank you so much. Truly a labor of love. Thank you. Holly, let me turn it back to you, but thank you very very much.
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Jumping in on some regulatory updates. So in July the one big beautiful bill was signed into law and with that we saw the CBO score was finalized with estimated 3.4 trillion in new deficit spending and 10 million Americans projected to lose health insurance. And also we've seen with the legislation sweeping tax changes, Medicaid cuts and a host of other health care policies. We did also see within that a 2.5% increase coming in 2026 for Medicare physician payments. And then also we have the new Rural Hospital Fund which despite Its name is 50 billion dollar fund designed to support a range of rural health initiatives, not just hospital related, including clinics and telehealth providers. So that should bring about some interesting developments on the rural front. In addition to the physician fee schedule increased, we're also seeing ASD and hospital outpatient payments improve whereas the government is more focused on moving care to less costly settings. So CMS is doubling down on site neutral payment policies proposing to eliminate the inpatient only list for surgeries. And CMS is also adding more outpatient procedures, those that can be reimbursed in an asd. We're seeing a proposed rule looking to reduce reimbursement for skin substitutes which is going to pose a major concern for wound care providers. And then also there's a home health and DME Post proposed rule which addresses payment updates, quality reporting and face to face encounter policy changes. So just a fair amount of activity on the legislative front. And then in addition we're seeing the government enforcement priorities kind of come back front and center with the False Claims Act Task Force. The DOJ and HHS has relaunched their False Claims Act Working Group which signals a renewed focus on health care enforcement. And we're going to see likely attention on Medicare Advantage managed care fraud kickbacks and drugs and biologics pricing practices. And so we think that this is going to be pretty consistent with the last Trump administration administration and Trump's plan to aggressively enforce the False Claims Act. We're also likely to see focused on remote patient monitoring. So, so lots of activity there.
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Let's touch for one second there one bit further. It seems like as you talk about all these things in the bill, it doesn't sound that bad. But when I hear from industry, they were overwhelmingly very negative about this, including the physicians, the ASCs and others and health systems, of course, and very worried about Medicaid cuts. What's your overall take from the health system industry or the provider industry as well as from the private equity industry on the, on the one big beautiful bill, as it's called?
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Yeah, I mean, I think from hospitals and health systems and providers in general, I think there's a lot of trepidation about the Medicaid cuts. I think it's going to put a lot of strain on the system. I think all of the 10 million Americans who are going to lose insurance coverage, they're going to still need to get health care and that's going to put a lot of stress, especially on hospitals and health systems and post Covid flooding back into emergency rooms and providers of last resort really having to deal with the massive increase in volume and those costs are going to go somewhere and it will really impact providers. And so I do think that the rural health aspect is seen as a little bit of a distraction, but not necessarily an equalizer for the potential damage from the loss of coverage. I think on the private equity front, I think it's mixed. There's going to be some sectors that are negatively impacted. I think some other sectors or some other investors are looking at opportunities that the, the cuts are going to bring. So for example, we're seeing some investors looking at how can they focus on the back to work requirements and develop systems to support states in those areas. So I think there's definitely some, some who see opportunity, but I think amongst the provider community, I think it is viewed very negatively Howie, thank you so much.
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That was my take from the provider side. Give us a sense the private equity deal market and what you're most focused on this last few months of the year.
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Yeah. So as reported the last time we chatted, it does feel like the second half of the year is getting really busy, which is terrific. We've been very active, I'd say, heading into the second half of the year. And as the second half of the year gets underway. We're seeing some really nice platform buy side deals. We're seeing the platform deal market also picking up and sell sides continuing to remain relatively robust for the year. And so I think we're expecting the back half of 2025 to be to be strong.
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Thank you. What do you see as the big priorities for the group and the team that you lead for the next several months? Where do you see the top priorities and where you most focused?
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You know, we continue to look at building out and growing our FDA and life sciences group. We've had tremendous growth and success with that group in the last 18 months and we're continuing to build that out and take that group to market. So that will continue to be a focus for us. And that group focuses both on know servicing the kind of the life sciences market as well as assisting investors and lenders with their activities in the market as well. And so that's just been a very, a very fun area and one that we'll continue to focus in. I think other than that, it's really just doubling down to make sure that as our clients are getting more active for the second half of the year that we're able to really execute on that and continue to develop and build our talent pool. So bucking and tackling and more of the same.
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No, you're doing an incredible job how again, thank you for sharing with us the regulatory updates, the deal outlook as well as the focus for the rest of the year, including the FDA and life sciences efforts. Thank you so much for joining us today on the Becker Private Equity and the Becker Business Podcast. Thank you very, very much.
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Thank you, Scott.
Becker Business Podcast Summary
Episode: Regulatory Shifts, Deal Market Trends, and Strategic Focus in Healthcare with Holly Buckley of McGuireWoods LLP
Host: Scott Becker
Guest: Holly Buckley, Chair of the Healthcare Department at McGuireWoods LLP
Release Date: August 5, 2025
In this insightful episode of the Becker Business Podcast, host Scott Becker engages in a comprehensive discussion with Holly Buckley, the Chair of the Healthcare Department at McGuireWoods LLP. Holly, who operates at the nexus of healthcare, private equity, and business, delves into critical topics affecting the healthcare sector. The conversation centers around recent regulatory updates, trends in the private equity deal market, and strategic priorities for the remainder of the year.
July Legislation and Its Implications
Holly Buckley begins by addressing a significant legislative development signed into law in July. She outlines the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) score, highlighting a projected $3.4 trillion increase in the national deficit and an alarming forecast that 10 million Americans may lose their health insurance coverage (00:46). The legislation introduces sweeping changes, including:
Tax Reforms and Medicaid Cuts: These modifications are poised to reshape the financial landscape for healthcare providers and insurers.
Medicare Physician Payments: A notable 2.5% increase in Medicare physician payments is slated for 2026, indicating a shift towards supporting healthcare providers financially (00:46).
Rural Hospital Fund: Contrary to its name, this $50 billion fund is designed to support a broad range of rural health initiatives beyond hospitals, such as clinics and telehealth providers. This initiative is expected to stimulate advancements in rural healthcare delivery (00:46).
CMS Policy Shifts
Buckley elaborates on changes within the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS), emphasizing a strategic move to transition care to less costly settings. Key policy updates include:
Site-Neutral Payment Policies: CMS is eliminating the inpatient-only list for surgeries and expanding the range of outpatient procedures reimbursable through Ambulatory Surgical Centers (ASCs) (00:46).
Reimbursement Adjustments: A proposed rule aims to reduce reimbursement rates for skin substitutes, posing significant challenges for wound care providers.
Home Health and Durable Medical Equipment (DME): New rules address payment updates, quality reporting, and changes to face-to-face encounter policies, indicating a comprehensive overhaul of outpatient care reimbursement (00:46).
Heightened Enforcement Focus
The discussion shifts to the government's re-emphasized enforcement priorities, particularly concerning the False Claims Act (FCA). Buckley notes that the Department of Justice (DOJ) and the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) have reinvigorated their FCA Working Group, signaling a renewed commitment to healthcare fraud prevention. Areas of focus include:
Medicare Advantage and Managed Care Fraud: Increased scrutiny on fraud within managed care environments.
Kickbacks and Pricing Practices: Ongoing investigations into illicit kickbacks and the pricing strategies of drugs and biologics (00:46).
Buckley anticipates that these enforcement efforts will continue the aggressive FCA enforcement seen during the Trump administration, with a particular focus on remote patient monitoring (00:46).
Notable Quote:
"The DOJ and HHS has relaunched their False Claims Act Working Group which signals a renewed focus on health care enforcement." – Holly Buckley (00:46)
Contrasting Views Between Legislation and Industry Sentiment
Scott Becker probes further into the apparent discrepancy between the legislative optimism surrounding the bill and the overwhelming negativity expressed by various industry stakeholders, including physicians, ambulatory surgical centers (ASCs), and health systems.
Buckley acknowledges the widespread trepidation among hospitals and health systems due to Medicaid cuts. She explains that the loss of health insurance for 10 million Americans will likely burden hospitals and health systems with increased patient volumes, particularly in emergency rooms. This surge could strain resources and escalate operational costs, potentially diminishing the anticipated benefits of the Rural Hospital Fund (03:57).
Private Equity’s Mixed Reactions
While the provider community expresses significant concern, the private equity sector exhibits a mixed response. Buckley notes that:
Negative Impacts: Certain healthcare sectors may suffer financially due to reduced Medicaid funding and increased patient loads.
Opportunities for Investment: Conversely, some private equity investors are identifying opportunities to develop systems that support state requirements and enhance post-COVID healthcare delivery. For instance, investors are exploring ventures that align with new regulatory mandates and the shifting healthcare landscape (03:57).
Notable Quote:
"There’s definitely some who see opportunity, but I think amongst the provider community, I think it is viewed very negatively." – Holly Buckley (03:57)
A Busy Second Half of the Year
Transitioning to deal market trends, Buckley reports a robust second half of the year. She observes increased activity in both the buy-side and sell-side transactions, indicating a healthy and dynamic market environment.
Platform Buy-Side Deals: There is a notable uptick in platform acquisitions, suggesting that private equity firms are actively consolidating and expanding their portfolios.
Sell-Side Robustness: Sellers remain confident, contributing to sustained transactional volume and market stability (05:31).
Buckley anticipates that the back half of 2025 will continue this strong momentum, with sustained activity and favorable market conditions.
Notable Quote:
"We're seeing some really nice platform buy side deals. We're seeing the platform deal market also picking up and sell sides continuing to remain relatively robust for the year." – Holly Buckley (05:31)
Expansion of FDA and Life Sciences Group
Highlighting the strategic initiatives of her team, Buckley emphasizes the ongoing growth of the FDA and life sciences group within McGuireWoods. Over the past 18 months, this group has experienced significant development, and the focus remains on:
Market Expansion: Enhancing the group's presence in the life sciences sector and supporting both service providers and financial investors.
Client Support: Assisting investors and lenders in navigating the complex regulatory and operational landscapes of life sciences (06:17).
Talent Development and Execution Excellence
Beyond sector-specific growth, Buckley underscores the importance of executing client engagements effectively and developing a strong talent pool. As client activity increases in the latter part of the year, ensuring top-tier service and expanding team capabilities are paramount (06:17).
Notable Quote:
"We continue to look at building out and growing our FDA and life sciences group... and that's just been a very, a very fun area and one that we'll continue to focus in." – Holly Buckley (06:17)
Scott Becker wraps up the episode by acknowledging Holly Buckley's comprehensive insights into the evolving healthcare regulatory landscape, the vibrant private equity deal market, and the strategic priorities guiding her team. Buckley's expertise offers valuable perspectives for stakeholders navigating the intersections of healthcare, law, and private equity.
Notable Closing Quote:
"Thank you for sharing with us the regulatory updates, the deal outlook as well as the focus for the rest of the year..." – Scott Becker (07:09)
Legislative Impacts: The July bill introduces significant changes, including Medicaid cuts and Medicare payment increases, which will have profound effects on healthcare providers and the private equity landscape.
Industry Sentiment: While legislators may view the bill favorably, healthcare providers express significant concerns about the financial and operational strains resulting from reduced Medicaid funding and increased uninsured populations.
Deal Market Dynamics: The private equity deal market remains active and robust, with strong buy-side and sell-side activities anticipated to continue through the end of 2025.
Strategic Growth Areas: Expanding expertise in FDA and life sciences, coupled with a focus on talent development and client execution, are key strategic priorities for McGuireWoods LLP's healthcare department.
Timestamp Reference Guide:
This episode provides a thorough examination of the current state and future directions of healthcare regulation, private equity involvement, and strategic operational focuses within the sector. Whether you're a healthcare provider, private equity investor, or industry observer, Holly Buckley's expert analysis offers valuable guidance in navigating these complex dynamics.