Episode Overview
Podcast: Becker Private Equity & Business Podcast
Host: Scott Becker
Episode Title: Jim Harbaugh vs. Pete Rose 8-18-25
Date: August 18, 2025
In this thought-provoking episode, Scott Becker explores the results of a recent Twitter (X) poll asking, “Who is the most unethical: Jim Harbaugh or Pete Rose?” Becker offers context around the public personas and scandals of each sports figure, and analyzes why respondents favored one over the other as “more unethical.” The discussion becomes a meditation on public perception, hypocrisy, and the impact of image management on legacy.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
The Poll & Its Surprising Results
- The episode is centered on a Twitter poll that compared the perceived unethical behavior of Jim Harbaugh, the long-standing Michigan football coach, and Pete Rose, the infamous ex-MLB player.
- Poll Results: Jim Harbaugh received 65% of the votes as being more unethical, compared to Pete Rose’s 35%.
(00:55)
Background on the Figures
- Jim Harbaugh: Recently handed a NCAA decision banning him from college football until about age 74–75 (circa 2036) due to numerous violations, including sign-stealing and recruiting improprieties.
- Pete Rose: Banned from baseball for life for gambling on the game but might soon become eligible for the Hall of Fame. Rose has had a widely acknowledged history of other personal scandals.
Public Perception & Image
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Quote:
“Everybody knew and it's been long discussed that Pete Rose was, was kind of a shady character.”
— Scott Becker (01:47) -
Multiple poll respondents emphasized Rose’s problematic personal life, including relationships with minors.
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Discussion Point:
Despite Rose’s widely accepted reputation for sleaziness, the poll favored Harbaugh as more unethical. Becker suggests the surprise comes from the way Harbaugh presents himself versus public knowledge of Rose’s character flaws.
The Hypocrisy Effect
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Quote:
“I think it's part of when people portray themselves different than they are, then they really take it on the chin when people find out that they're really quite sleazy.”
— Scott Becker (03:18) -
Analysis:
Becker compares Harbaugh’s “apple pie American” image to the openly controversial personas of public figures like Donald Trump and Bill Clinton, suggesting that society punishes hypocrisy more harshly than bad behavior that is expected or already “priced in.” -
Memorable Analogy:
“President Trump in some ways gets a pass because people know he's a shady guy... people sort of take him for what he is.”
— Scott Becker (02:32)
Examples from Poll Respondents
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Specific allegations from poll participants regarding both Rose’s personal misconduct and the breadth of Harbaugh’s institutional violations were cited.
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Notable quote from a poll respondent (paraphrased by Becker):
“I legitimately love Pete Rose and I'm agnostic on Harbaugh, but Pete was on another level of shadiness. Personal life was a mess too.”
(01:57) -
Another respondent:
“Rose also dated and lived with a minor when he was in his twenties.”
(02:10)
Notable Quotes & Moments
| Timestamp | Quote & Attribution | |-----------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:47 | “Everybody knew and it's been long discussed that Pete Rose was...a shady character.” — Scott Becker | | 01:57 | “I legitimately love Pete Rose and I'm agnostic on Harbaugh, but Pete was on another level of shadiness.” — Poll respondent (quoted by Becker) | | 02:32 | “President Trump in some ways gets a pass because people know he's a shady guy... people sort of take him for what he is.” — Scott Becker | | 03:18 | “When people portray themselves different than they are, then they really take it on the chin when people find out that they're really quite sleazy.” — Scott Becker |
Timestamps for Key Segments
- 00:00 – 01:00: Introduction, context of the poll and results.
- 01:00 – 02:15: Background on Harbaugh and Rose, poll respondent comments.
- 02:15 – 03:40: Analysis of public perception, hypocrisy, and comparison to other public figures.
Summary & Takeaway
Scott Becker’s concise but impactful episode uses the Harbaugh vs. Rose poll as a lens through which to examine why society sometimes judges hypocrisy and the shattering of a “clean” image more harshly than chronic or overtly bad behavior. Becker’s insights, coupled with pointed examples and respondent feedback, turn what could be a tabloid topic into a nuanced discussion of ethics, legacy, and human nature in public life.
