
In this episode, Scott Becker discusses Starbucks CEO Laxman Narasimhan’s call for corporate staff to return to the office at least four days a week as the company works to revive declining same-store sales and rebuild institutional culture.
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Scott Becker
This is Scott Becker with the Becker Business Podcast, the Becker Private Equity Podcast. Thank you as always for listening. Today's discussion is Starbucks says to its staff, get back to the office. So here's what's going on. Ryan Nicole, the newer CEO of Starbucks who came over from Chipotle, he had tremendous success with Chipotle, is trying to reinvigorate Starbucks. Starbucks has had several quarters in a row where same store sales are not going in the right direction. So the latest thing they've talked about is getting their staff and their headquarters people back to offices and back to their main headquarters. Now, I find the in office thing fascinating. You see Jamie Dimon on the same press at JP Morgan Chase, one of the great banks, probably the top bank in the country. You see Brian Nicole trying to do this at Starbucks and I get it. At the end of the day, the belief is you get more people in the office and you'll have the hearts and minds there. You'll have a more committed, there'll be more institutional chemistry. Things will go better in the long run. The challenge of course, is so much of the workforce is used to working remote and so many talented people love working remote because it gives them so much flexibility. So you got these two different challenges. So I look at this. When companies say get back to the office, is it a way of saying that we want to get rid of some staff and by forcing them back, they'll quit or they'll, or they'll be forced to, they can't make it work so that'll happen? Or is it really because they're trying to get the hearts and minds committed and people working more closely together and more and more focused and more all in on the job. I never know what the real motives are from companies. I think in some of the companies that I work with, some have said we got to have everybody at the office. Others have said it's a lost game. So much for our workforce is used that flexibility. We just have to manage that much closer to make sure it all works. All kinds of different thoughts on what works when people are remote versus hybrid versus back to the office and building culture and accountability and all those kinds of things. But again, Brian Nicole, the latest CEO of the big, big large company saying we want everybody back in the office at least four days a week. We'll see how this plays out again. Starbucks. I've grown to return to Starbucks over. I love the cold brew, I love the mocha, and I find that Starbucks, you know, more and more is still a very reliable coffee brand. So I don't know if that requires our staff and headquarters back at the office, but I'm sure that the daily grinding baristas probably have a little bit of schadenfreude and love the fact that the headquarters people are going to be forced back to office. I don't know. In any event, fascinating to watch this trend and we'll see how it continues again. Feel free to text me. I'd love your thoughts. Scott Becker, 773-766-5322. I'll give a special shout out to a couple different people who reportedly had a fantastic weekend of tennis and close Callie Gary Cole, who aside from being a great athlete, a beautifully fashionably driven person is also apparently one of the great fly fishermen of our time. Again, a couple extra shout outs there but again the main story today is Starbucks telling people get back to the office. Thank you for listening to the Becker business and the Becker Private Equity Podcast. Thank you very much.
Becker Private Equity & Business Podcast Summary
Episode Title: Starbucks Tells its Staff “Get Back to the Office”
Host: Scott Becker
Release Date: July 15, 2025
In this episode of the Becker Private Equity & Business Podcast, host Scott Becker delves into the recent strategic shift at Starbucks, where the company has instructed its staff to return to the office. Becker explores the motivations behind this decision, its implications for the workforce, and how it aligns with broader trends in corporate management.
Leadership Changes and Business Performance
Scott Becker begins by highlighting the recent leadership transition at Starbucks. Ryan Nicole, the new CEO who previously led Chipotle to significant success, has taken the helm at Starbucks. Under Nicole's leadership, Starbucks has faced challenges, including several consecutive quarters of declining same-store sales.
"Ryan Nicole, the newer CEO of Starbucks who came over from Chipotle, he had tremendous success with Chipotle, is trying to reinvigorate Starbucks. Starbucks has had several quarters in a row where same store sales are not going in the right direction."
— Scott Becker [00:15]
The Push for Office Return
In an effort to revitalize the company, Nicole has advocated for staff and headquarters employees to return to the office. Becker compares this move to similar strategies employed by other major corporations, such as Jamie Dimon at JPMorgan Chase.
"Jamie Dimon on the same press at JP Morgan Chase ... Brian Nicole trying to do this at Starbucks and I get it."
— Scott Becker [02:00]
Becker discusses the underlying belief driving this push: increased in-office presence fosters stronger commitment, improved institutional chemistry, and better long-term outcomes. However, he also acknowledges the challenges, particularly with a workforce accustomed to the flexibility of remote work.
"The belief is you get more people in the office and you'll have the hearts and minds there. You'll have a more committed, there'll be more institutional chemistry."
— Scott Becker [02:10]
Retention vs. Engagement
Becker ponders whether Starbucks' directive to return to the office is primarily about enhancing collaboration and company culture or if it serves as a tactic to reduce the workforce by pressuring remote employees to resign.
"When companies say get back to the office, is it a way of saying that we want to get rid of some staff and by forcing them back, they'll quit..."
— Scott Becker [03:00]
He reflects on varying corporate approaches, noting that some companies emphasize mandatory office presence, while others accept the permanence of remote work and seek new management strategies.
"All kinds of different thoughts on what works when people are remote versus hybrid versus back to the office and building culture and accountability..."
— Scott Becker [04:00]
Industry-Wide Implications
Becker observes that Starbucks' move is part of a larger trend among major companies reevaluating their remote work policies. He underscores the uncertainty surrounding the effectiveness of these strategies and their impact on employee satisfaction and retention.
"We'll see how this plays out again. Starbucks."
— Scott Becker [05:30]
Personal Reflections
Shifting gears, Becker shares his personal affinity for Starbucks' products, such as cold brew and mocha, reinforcing his connection to the brand despite the corporate shifts.
"I've grown to return to Starbucks over. I love the cold brew, I love the mocha, and I find that Starbucks, you know, more and more is still a very reliable coffee brand."
— Scott Becker [06:00]
He speculates humorously about the potential feelings of Starbucks' baristas towards headquarters' return to the office.
"I don't know if that requires our staff and headquarters back at the office, but I'm sure that the daily grinding baristas probably have a little bit of schadenfreude..."
— Scott Becker [06:30]
Shout Outs and Closing Remarks
Towards the end of the episode, Becker acknowledges listeners and shares shout outs to individuals who enjoyed a successful weekend of tennis and fishing, adding a personal touch to the discussion.
"A couple different people who reportedly had a fantastic weekend of tennis and close Callie Gary Cole..."
— Scott Becker [07:00]
He encourages listeners to engage via text, inviting them to share their thoughts on the topics discussed.
"Feel free to text me. I'd love your thoughts."
— Scott Becker [07:10]
In this episode, Scott Becker provides a thoughtful analysis of Starbucks' decision to mandate a return to the office for its staff, situating it within broader industry trends and corporate strategies. By examining potential motivations and implications, Becker offers listeners a comprehensive understanding of the challenges and considerations companies face in balancing in-office presence with remote work preferences.
Notable Quotes:
[00:15] "Ryan Nicole, the newer CEO of Starbucks who came over from Chipotle, he had tremendous success with Chipotle, is trying to reinvigorate Starbucks."
[02:10] "The belief is you get more people in the office and you'll have the hearts and minds there."
[03:00] "When companies say get back to the office, is it a way of saying that we want to get rid of some staff..."
[05:30] "We'll see how this plays out again. Starbucks."
[06:30] "I don't know if that requires our staff and headquarters back at the office, but I'm sure that the daily grinding baristas probably have a little bit of schadenfreude..."
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