
In this episode, Scott shares the results of a Twitter poll on the often mixed motivations behind altruistic claims like “I’m just trying to pay it forward”.
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This is Scott Becker with the Becker Private Equity and Business podcast. Today's discussion comes out of a discussion I had the last few days at one of our conferences where somebody boldly proclaims to me, I'm just trying to pay it forward. And when they say that, you know, I'm immediately taken aback because I'm a believer that let's say I do something for charity, when somebody does something for charity, and that would be the maybe one example of paying it back or giving it forward or whatever you want to call it. There are usually multiple motivations for giving to charity. You want to feel about your good, about yourself. You want to help others. You want to be recognized for your charity. You want somebody to know that you did it. There are lots of different reasons why people do things. And what I find is almost always the motivations are mixed. The they're not just pure. It's not just because you're trying to just give it back. So when I hear somebody say, I passed on a great job and took this job because all I really want to do is pay it forward and give it back, I am always a little bit. I mean, I'll tell you what my real response is. My real response is I want to slap the person silly because I think they're so damn disingenuous or so lacking a self awareness. So that's my real response, slap them silly. But I was trying to figure out, am I alone in this thought and am I just a bad person for believing that they're so full of bs? And so what I did is, which I often do, is we did a Twitter poll on this. When somebody says to you, I do what I do to pay it forward and to give back, do you take them at their word? Do you think they are full of crap? Do you look at them strangely? Do you take it with a grain of salt? So what I found was our audience, at least our police, the people that, that, that, that filled out the poll are overall less skeptical people than I am. So 29% said take them at their word. 5% said look at them strangely. 19% said they're full of crap. They're full of BS was the word we used in the poll. And finally, 47% said take it with a grain of thought. So, so maybe people do see it like me, but I was so caffeinated when the person said this. I literally just wanted to smack the person. And of course I would never do that because you can't do that, particularly you're at a conference professional business conference. Somebody says something that sounds so disingenuous you just want to slap them, but you're not allowed to in today's society, which is right, which is good. You can't slap the person who says this kind of thing or punch them or do whatever you want to do because it's just not appropriate. But you can take it with a grain of salt. 47% agreed with me to take it with a grain of salt. 90% probably agreed me even further that they're full of crap, full of BS. 5% took the position I actually took, which is to look at them strangely. And then 29% said take them after work. And that's the most generous group of people in the world. So I applaud that extra 29% that said to take them at the word. I'd really like to break down do they really believe that? Or rather they're just saying it as a response to the poll. But it's anonymous poll so you could say whatever you want. In any event, I found it to be a fascinating discussion. I can't stand people that are so obviously to me, so disingenuous. Like we're all somewhat self motivated in different ways. Some people are more giving than others, no question about it. But even when we're giving, few of us have the ego to not want to have some recognition or some thank you or some appreciation for that giving. In any event, I found it to be. I find it to be a fascinating discussion. I hope I haven't offended anybody too much, but the concept of that we are just doing this to pay it forward, to give it back is enough to often leave me with a great sense of nausea. Thank you for listening to the Becker Private Equity and Business Podcast. If you listen to this podcast and you like it or hate it, if you think I'm a horrible person or a good person for thinking like this about the person who said this, feel free to text me 773-766-5322 and I'll be happy to send you the first one a $50Amazon gift certificate. Thank you for listening to the Becker Private Equity and Business Podcast. Thank you very, very much.
Episode: What We Think When People Say They Are Paying it Forward
Host: Scott Becker
Release Date: May 2, 2025
In the May 2, 2025 episode of the Becker Private Equity & Business Podcast, host Scott Becker delves into the nuanced topic of altruism in professional settings. Drawing from a recent personal experience at a business conference, Becker examines the sincerity behind the common declaration of "paying it forward."
Becker opens the discussion by recounting an interaction at a conference where someone asserted, “I'm just trying to pay it forward” (00:30). This statement struck a chord with him, prompting skepticism about the genuine motivations behind such claims.
"When someone says they're trying to pay it forward, I'm immediately taken aback because I believe there are usually multiple motivations behind giving to charity," — Scott Becker (00:50).
He elaborates that altruistic actions often intertwine with personal gains, such as feeling good about oneself, seeking recognition, or desiring appreciation.
Becker argues that pure selflessness is rare, suggesting that even seemingly generous acts are frequently driven by a blend of intentions.
"When somebody does something for charity, there are lots of different reasons why people do things. It's almost always mixed; it's not just pure," — Scott Becker (01:15).
He criticizes individuals who claim altruism as their sole motivation, finding such declarations disingenuous and lacking in self-awareness.
Expressing his frustration, Becker confesses a strong emotional reaction to perceived insincerity in others' altruistic statements.
"My real response is I want to slap the person silly because I think they're so damn disingenuous," — Scott Becker (02:00).
Though he acknowledges the inappropriateness of such a reaction in a professional setting, the sentiment underscores his deep-seated skepticism.
To validate his feelings, Becker conducted a Twitter poll asking listeners how they perceive statements of paying it forward. The poll results revealed a spectrum of beliefs:
"47% agreed with me to take it with a grain of salt," — Scott Becker (03:20).
He expresses surprise that a significant portion of the audience shared his skepticism, while also commending the 29% who gave the benefit of the doubt.
Becker reflects on the inherent complexities in giving, noting that most people have some level of self-interest when engaging in charitable acts.
"We're all somewhat self-motivated in different ways. Some people are more giving than others, but even when we're giving, few of us have the ego to not want some recognition or appreciation," — Scott Becker (04:10).
This insight highlights the universal human tendency to blend altruism with personal gratification.
Wrapping up the discussion, Becker reiterates his discomfort with overt claims of selfless giving, which he finds often mask underlying self-serving motives.
"The concept that we are just doing this to pay it forward, to give it back, is enough to often leave me with a great sense of nausea," — Scott Becker (04:50).
He acknowledges the multifaceted nature of human motivations and invites listeners to reflect on their perceptions of others' altruistic actions.
Scott Becker concludes the episode by engaging with his audience, inviting them to share their thoughts on his perspective. He reinforces the podcast's mission to explore the intersections of private equity and business through candid and thought-provoking discussions.
Note: Throughout the episode, Becker emphasizes the importance of critical thinking when evaluating others' motivations, encouraging listeners to recognize the diversity of reasons behind charitable actions.
This summary captures the essence of Scott Becker's exploration into the authenticity of "paying it forward" declarations, providing listeners with a deeper understanding of the complexities surrounding altruistic behavior in the business world.