Jacqueline Zuckerman (2:20)

I think the pink is so on brand. Like you're so loving and warm and I love it. Value. Okay, come sit. We're going to check. So let's introduce the amazing Kim Woods. So you are a philanthropist, an author, a strategic oracle.

Kim Woods (2:31)

Yes.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (2:31)

You turn this. You are just a woman of many traits and I'm so honored to have you here today.

Kim Woods (2:39)

So welcome to the show.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (2:40)

Thank you, Jackie.

Kim Woods (2:41)

It's so good to be here.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (2:42)

Of course. So tell us, like, for people who don't know what is a strategic oracle, how would you define it?

Kim Woods (2:47)

Right. I mean, it's kind of crazy, right? Okay, so strategy is looking at the big picture of things. So I can see across industry, I can see across timelines, I can see across people, I can see patterns that are bigger than the day to day. The oracle side is I do do astrology, but I'm intuitive, so I do more than just astrology. I can intuit just for that person, their exact business model. What is their timing, how to best make decisions for them, how to stand in their power. That's more than, oh, I reach your stars.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (3:19)

Yeah, no, but like working with you from the other side for stuff, you're so good. Like, you just know. So even, I guess for 25 years you said more than that.

Kim Woods (3:27)

Yeah. So 25 years for the strategy side. Always intuitive. But like lots of people, you know, just probably, you know, shut down that intuition because it isn't evidence based. It didn't make sense. My mind didn't know what it was doing. And then, you know, 24 years ago when my son was born, it was, holy crap, you need to do all the western medicine things with the eastern practices because it's the combination that's going to help him. And so, yeah, so I, you know, it's kind of scary when you say those number of years, but yeah, I guess so.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (3:55)

It's so cool. I'm just so glad you had to validate it. I'm so glad that you did it because you're helping so many people. Not that you didn't before, but just in such a new way, you know, And I love that so much. So you come from the boardroom, bringing billions of dollars into the corporate world. Like, what was your moment for you that you were like, wow, it's time for me to make a change in my life.

Kim Woods (4:13)

So your, your soul is going to start like nudging you, Your instinct, intuition, whatever you want to call it, you're going to start getting whispers. Someone will say something. You're like, maybe someone will if you don't listen, it's gonna get progressively louder until it becomes a scream. And my scream, my first scream was with Nick. You know, when he was born, he had so many issues. And the doctors were saying he's never gonna throw and catch a ball. He's never gonna, you know, have a normal social life. He's never gonna be able to walk up the stairs naturally. And I was like, are you kidding me right now? Are you kidding me right now? And so this is terrible to say, but I treated it like a consulting project. And I said, okay, if I were to look for results that were to have him have a typical life, what would I need to do? Western medicine was. That's why I went into Eastern practices. And then as I did, my life started to kind of go on two skis. Because I'm like, personally, I'm all on the Eastern side and intuitive and all the things. And then I'm doing, you know, straight business strategy in the corporate world. And I thought if I married these two, I'd get much more results. It wouldn't just be skills and strategies. It'd be getting to the root cause of things. And that's what happened.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (5:14)

Amazing. So when was that? Like, how long ago was that? So it was when he was born.

Kim Woods (5:18)

When he was born? Yep. When he was born, he was duct taped to a gurney at two months old. Terrible. Terrible. Right? He's. And he's looking, he's petrified and like all this. Cause he had physical issues too. And I was just standing there. I was supposed to go back to work at Oracle. Like the next day, literally was like. I just knew, intuitively knew if I do that his life is not going to be what it could be. So I'm going to figure this out. And so I quit the next day. And my boss was like, oh, my God, you can bring the baby in. Oh, my God. You're going to. I want you to take over the Americas. You can have 200 to people. You don't have to do that. You can take all the time. And I was like, it's not going to work. So it crushed me. But then, you know, hindsight's 20 20. I wouldn't have been who I am today, and he wouldn't have been who he is today if I had made a different choice.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (6:04)

Right. Oh, my God. And I'm so glad now that I've worked with you too. Like, I'm so glad you made that shift. Like, you're impacting even more people because you left. So good for you.

Kim Woods (6:13)

Thanks.

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Jacqueline Zuckerman (7:15)

To talk about this spiritual side because I love this world. So, like, for you, when you start hearing the voices and stuff, like, what, first of all, what did it first sound like to you?

Kim Woods (7:24)

Yeah.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (7:24)

And then when were you like, okay, like this? Like, I should probably lean into this more.

Kim Woods (7:28)

Yeah. So. So we all have these moments, right? Everybody's intuitive and there's different types of it. Some people see things, some people hear things, some people sense things, and some people know things. I just knew. So I would have this knowing. I would just know. I'd look at somebody and I would just know. Are you pregnant or you're not pregnant. Are you in a happy marriage? Are you not in a happy marriage? Are you? I mean, I would just know things now when you're. You're little, what are you doing with that? You're probably talking to an adult and they're like, you're crazy, you know, or, shh, don't talk about that. Right. So you learn not to listen. That's okay. No one's doing anything wrong. It's just the normal course of life. And so as I was growing up and, you know, you kind of come into yourself in your early 30s. That was definitely hitting then. But I kept pushing it away because it wasn't rational, it wasn't evidence based. It was a moment when the doctors were saying about Nick that he had to go through like an eight hour procedure just for some ridiculous thing. And I just had this, you know, hit, if you will, he should go to the acupuncturist. I just, like, out of nowhere, I listened to that in one session, all of his digestive issues were gone. So that was the pivotal moment for me. He was maybe two and a half, three. He's probably three. And I was like, there's something to this. I'm gonna lean into this.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (8:42)

So inspiring. And when you, when you started consulting with clients, like, what was your first. Can you share like one success story that stands out to you?

Kim Woods (8:49)

Okay, so which one do you want? I know you. Flavor do you want, Right?

Jacqueline Zuckerman (8:52)

I love the flavor.

Kim Woods (8:53)

It's so good.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (8:54)

Whatever's aligned for you to share.

Kim Woods (8:55)

Yeah. So it's interesting cause I'm still back in the time when the kids were little. So I had a client and he had 75 people in his firm and we grew it to 600 in only like three years. We didn't lose any of the senior staff. That for me was my growth point. And he would always say, kim, keep your woo at home. And yes, but no. Because I obviously was doing tons of energetics and a lot of different things that were on the spiritual side for his corporation. There's no reasonable way that he should have been able to go through vertical growth and not lose anybody. Because he wanted an exit strategy, he wanted to sell, and everything worked out because there was magic involved. So he could say, keep your woo at home. And I was like, yeah. And so his cfo, his coo, they were all like, give me, give me it all, give me it all. Like I want all of it. So we were doing stuff and he, the, the CEO was fine. He just didn't personally think that there was anything there. But he would.

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Kim Woods (10:19)

Say to me later, he's like, I don't know what kind of magic you're doing, but there's something going on.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (10:23)

Amazing, right?

Kim Woods (10:24)

So he used the language, but he didn't use the language.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (10:27)

Right, Right.

Kim Woods (10:28)

Yeah.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (10:28)

So what would you say, like, for people who like know that there's. They want more for themselves? Because I feel like those are the people that come to you. Am I correct with that? Like, if they're starting to even consider branching out with what they know, what advice would you give them?

Kim Woods (10:43)

Yeah, so here. So. And they're. You're not they're not gonna like this because perfect.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (10:47)

I know.

Kim Woods (10:48)

I know. Because it is. Give your space and grace. That's the first thing. Because your mind is always running. And our minds are beautiful, but our minds are not in tandem with our intuition at first. We have to separate them at first, and then they could come together again. So that's what I would say to people a lot of times. People say, oh, my God, I have to sit in lotus position, and I have to do yoga, and I have to meditate, and that's not in the flow for me. I'm busy. I've got stuff to do. I say, yes, but no. You can become really observant. You can start analyzing some things that keep coming to you. You just start noticing more. And the other thing is, you don't have to say, well, I'm gonna put my mind aside. You're just relaxing it a little bit. You're just giving it a timeout. Just give it, like, put it in a corner. I always say, like, give it some mind candy, you know? And then you're going into. And you're starting to listen to yourself because your intuition wants to have some time and space, but it's really patient. It will sit back, and it will just wait for you forever. Whereas your mind is like a toddler. Your mind needs all the attention. So we just need to relax that a little bit. Let your true. Everybody's intuitive. Let your true essence come through. So ways to do that. That's why I did my oracle card deck, right? I say to people, if you don't. If you're like, yeah, whatever, you can just take a book and just, like, let it fall and just read a passage of it and just kind of ruminate over that. Think about a conversation that you had that was uplifting. Think about a movie or a song that's uplifting, and think about those L. And just go on a walk or just. Or just do something again. You're just keeping your mind at pace with yourself so that you can start to shine through.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (12:25)

That's great advice. Like, solid. And I want to use an example you share with me in one of our sessions. Like, you told me to, like, play with my kids, like puppets or something. And I was like, okay, Kim, I'm gonna be that person. But I feel like when we shut off from all the pressure, like, that really is where the abundance comes, right?

Kim Woods (12:41)

100%. Yeah.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (12:42)

So inspiring. Thank you. Okay, I want to play game time. So we're gonna do this or that.

Kim Woods (12:46)

Okay.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (12:47)

And we're Gon to do rapid fire. Done. So many questions. Okay, well, I'm interested to see about this because we've just talked about this strategy or intuition?

Kim Woods (12:57)

Strategy.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (12:57)

Oo. Stage or sanctuary?

Kim Woods (13:00)

Sanctuary. Good call.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (13:02)

Crystals or tuning forks?

Kim Woods (13:04)

Crystals.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (13:05)

Leading or listening? Ooh, listening. Heels or barefoot? Grounding.

Kim Woods (13:11)

Barefoot. Like, I love that all the time.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (13:15)

I love that. And then boardroom or beach? Beach.

Kim Woods (13:19)

Altar.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (13:19)

I wrote beach. I guess. Boardroom or beach?

Kim Woods (13:22)

We'll go with boardroom. My way.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (13:25)

I love that. Controlling the narrative. I love you. I love this. Okay. Rapid fire. Morning ritual or. Oh, I guess this is kind of a midnight downloads. Oh, morning ritual or midnight downloads.

Kim Woods (13:38)

Morning ritual.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (13:39)

I like that. So what is Kim's morning ritual?

Kim Woods (13:41)

Oh, it is intense. It's awesome. I have a mind movie that I play. I have an incantation that I do. I have a visioning exercise. I do meditation. I have a healing modality that I go into. I work with a trainer. I mean, it's an hour and a half. I work with a trainer. Oh, yeah, no, a hundred percent. I do some gratitude and usually that's outreach with people and just having, like really yummy conversations. I try to hit the physical, the mental, the emotional, spiritual.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (14:08)

I love that.

Kim Woods (14:09)

And then you start the day like that. You fill yourself up first because then you can go in the day as a wanna thrive mentality. And that's where you pour into other people. But you're not doing it from an empty spot.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (14:19)

That was really good advice.

Kim Woods (14:21)

Thank you. I love that.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (14:22)

Intuition whisper or a lightning bolt?

Kim Woods (14:26)

Lightning bolt.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (14:27)

I know. Gotta go for it, right? If your energy had a color today, what would it be?

Kim Woods (14:33)

Purple.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (14:34)

So what would you define purple as in terms of energy?

Kim Woods (14:37)

Violet. You know that post Twilight and you get that indigo color, but you get more of that purple. There's more nobility in purple.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (14:45)

That.

Kim Woods (14:46)

Ooh.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (14:46)

Human design or astrology?

Kim Woods (14:48)

Astrology.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (14:49)

All day. I knew it. I knew it. Who's a dream person to do a reading for?

Kim Woods (14:54)

Oh, someone who is open to themselves. Someone who's leaning in, who's saying, I'm right on the edge of something. I don't know what it is. I know it's something big. I'm ready to choose, but I. I don't know which direction to go in.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (15:09)

Do you have a dream person you'd actually want to work with that you. It's been on your radar.

Kim Woods (15:13)

Oh. Oh, my goodness. Okay, so I'm fangirl. I know she doesn't believe in this at all, but I love Alex Guanachelli so much. It's a little bit crazy. She and I in a garden. So I'm like a food girl, right? So. But Alex, I just love her. I know she'd be like, but you.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (15:28)

Need to manifest 100%.

Kim Woods (15:30)

I am manifesting. I am manifesting it out.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (15:33)

We're putting it out today.

Kim Woods (15:33)

I am. And this is where I'm like, your energy is like, no, but I'm like, oh, but girlfriend, you haven't met me yet.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (15:39)

So you don't even know when Kim enters the room. That's when. That's when everything shifts. Just putting it out there. Kim, you are amazing. Thank you so much for coming on today. How can people follow you? Get in touch. All the things.

Kim Woods (15:49)

So Kim woods channel on Insta that has LinkedIn, you know, the link in bio. You can see me everywhere. Meet kimwoods.com LinkedIn Kimwoods channel, like everywhere. Do it. All the things. All the things.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (16:00)

Kim is amazing. And then your oracle cards I wanted to talk about because I'm obsessed with you did those in how many days did you create this deck?

Kim Woods (16:05)

Seven days.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (16:06)

Unbelievable. And it's my favorite deck of all time. Side note, like, it truly is. Like, can you tell people who just briefly, like, if they don't aren't familiar with what it can do for your day, how would you tell them about it?

Kim Woods (16:18)

It's gonna interrupt your mind. So when your mind's in a swirl, it's just gonna, you're just gonna pick a card and you're just gonna ponder it. It can help you make decisions. It is literally written for the mind to stop it in its tracks to say, whoa, let's just ponder. And then that's where you can step into your intuition.

Jacqueline Zuckerman (16:34)

I love that. And the book that comes with it is so defining of what it actually means. So I think it takes it just even further. You're amaz for coming today. Thanks for having me and thanks for staying tuning in to next on scene. And stay tuned for who's next on scene. Thanks for watching. You can shop all my holiday hosting essentials, including the bar cart warmers, leftover containers, charcuterie gift ideas and so much more right at creatorsoul IO wayfair/jackie Zook. Happy hosting and happy holidays. I'm here to give you your red carpet moment. So follow us on all our podcast channels on any stream from iheartradio Spotify. If you just type in next on scene, the human behind the brand. Or you can also follow us on all our social media channels at next on scene. Can't wait for you to come on this journey with us. Your say is very impactful as an audience member. So come along for the ride and we are going to all evolve together and we can't wait for you to see who's next on scene.

Katie Whelan (17:35)

If you're feeling exhausted, puffy, anxious, foggy, gaining weight, or just not like yourself, you're not imagining it. Women in their 30s, 40s, and 50s are experiencing massive hormonal shifts and no one is explaining what's actually happening. I'm Katie Whelan, co founder of Joy. I built Joy because I lived this the fatigue, the mood swings, the weight changes, the confusion. Your symptoms are biological, not personal, and AI generated lab reports won't fix them. Every Joy Lab includes a visit with a licensed clinician who specializes in women's hormones and connects every biomarker to how you feel energy metabolism, mood, sleep, skin weight, everything. Then we personalize real solutions hormone therapy, peptide therapy, supplements and lifestyle protocols. Get started@joyandblogues.com today. This month, new customers get 50% off labs and you can add our estrogen face cream for just $1 with clinician approval. Use promo code podcast@joyandblokes.com.