Behind the Bastards / It Could Happen Here Weekly 201

Date: September 27, 2025
Host: Robert Evans (plus regular contributors: James Stout, Mia Wong, Garrison Davis, Andrew Sage, Crystal, and guests)
Producer: Cool Zone Media & iHeartPodcasts

Episode Overview

This episode compiles a week of news and interviews from It Could Happen Here, focusing on immigration policy, state violence, international tensions in Latin America and the Caribbean, eugenics and public health in the US, “executive disorder” at the federal level, and the pervading sense of unreality in public discourse. The tone is urgent, skeptical, deeply personal at times, and often darkly humorous, with hosts and guests sharing both analysis and firsthand experience.

I. The Realities of US Immigration Policy: Family in Crisis

[02:34–41:29 / Guest: Francis, Interviewed by James Stout]

Main Points & Insights

• Personal Immigration Story: Francis recounts her family’s harrowing journey from Tunisia to the US seeking asylum after her activist husband Amos was targeted for pro-democracy activity under Tunisia’s repressive new president.

  • Immigration law made it nearly impossible for Amos to arrive legally; he was separated from his wife and young children for 9 months and had to make a dangerous journey to the US border to apply for asylum.
  • Immigration processes are described as Kafkaesque—uncertain hearing dates, sudden changes, loss of due process, and profound stress on families.

• Systemic Changes and Political Climate:

  • After the return of the Trump administration, the family faced escalated surveillance and participation in new “ISAP” check-in procedures (facial-recognition phone apps, home visits).
  • Abrupt changes—such as a sudden in-person hearing with the threat of possible ICE detention—left both Francis and their lawyer confused and panicked.
  • Bond hearings have been revoked, increasing the stakes if someone is detained—they could be held for years without relief.

• Community & Social Pressures:

  • The family lives in a conservative, Trump-supporting community where they feel the tension of being visibly nonwhite and potentially targeted.
  • Their children attend therapy to process rapid moves and trauma; despite thriving in school, the children comprehend the risk of losing their father and struggle to understand “why Trump hates daddy.”

• A Broken System:

  • Legal aid is almost impossible to find; pro bono lawyers are overwhelmed and expensive.
  • Even with a solid asylum claim, the regime’s goal seems to be to “self-deport” families by making life so uncertain and frightening that they give up hope.

• Emotional Impact & Helplessness:

  • The whole family is “exhausted,” both physically and emotionally, and feels abandoned by the ideals America claims to represent.
  • The host, James, contextualizes the family’s story as a “textbook” asylum case, illustrating systemic collapse and the cruelty of current policy.

Notable Quotes

• On Asylum System:
  “The immigration system is broken. Everybody knows that. It takes years and years and tons and tons of money for an immigrant to, you know, go through the process…when you’re fleeing a country or a situation where you’re in danger, there is no other option.” — Francis, [05:59]

• On Sudden Policy Changes:
  “On this hearing notice, it said that the attorney can appear virtually, but the respondent must appear in person. And that is highly unusual. It's in bold at the top. …it's pretty clear the plan is—what they've been doing now—in court they drop your case. So now it's dismissed. …And then they are sometimes waiting for you in the hallway or outside the building to take you to ICE detention.” — Francis, [11:12]

• On Lack of Due Process & Trauma:
  “Our attorney doesn’t even know what to do…She says this is all new to her. It’s new to all the lawyers. …We feel extremely helpless. …Also, about two weeks ago, they changed the law where now we are not entitled to a bond hearing.” — Francis, [12:05]

• On Community Climate & Racism:
  “You can't hide being brown… My daughter even said, 'Can't Dada just cover up his skin?'” — Francis, [22:49]

• On Systemic Cruelty:
  “We’ve been sold on this American Dream… So they come, and now we're just punishing them brutally. It's not even like, oh, no, sorry, we're full. You know, we’re gonna have to send you back. It’s like, no, we’re gonna punish you. …call you animals and vermin.” — Francis, [31:55]

[Section continues with (1) advice for allies (donate, speak up, “do not look away”), (2) how the targeting of immigrants is part of broader democratic backsliding, (3) unresolved tension: whether the family will have to “self-deport,” and (4) powerful emotional closing—“Our goal is to stay together no matter what.”]

II. The US State & Latin America: The “Tren de Aragua” Strikes

[44:06–76:43 / Robert Evans & James Stout]

Main Points & Insights

• US Airstrikes in International Waters:

  • The Trump administration has targeted boats in international waters allegedly tied to the Venezuelan criminal group “Tren de Aragua.”
  • These acts are unprecedented in peacetime, with little regard for international law or human rights.

• Tren de Aragua: What Is It Really?

  • The group is significantly exaggerated by US and Trump administration rhetoric; the actual cartel is decentralized, “franchised,” and more a symptom of Venezuelan state collapse than a vast cross-border conspiracy.
  • Linking TDA to mass Fentanyl smuggling is almost entirely fabricated—most fentanyl is trafficked by US citizens and Mexican cartels, often through ports of entry.

• Demonization of Migrants:

  • The administration uses these attacks to justify their hardline anti-migrant positions and to further the narrative of “foreign criminals.”
  • “For your Fox News viewer, migrants are just like an abstract brown skinned bad person… they have no character trait except for not being born in this country.” — James [26:40]

• US Policy as Violent Spectacle:

  • There is strong evidence that blown-up boats serve PR—boats are attacked after being searched or with drugs removed, and all on board are killed, foreclosing any challenge to the official narrative.
  • Pre-2025 Coast Guard would detain, seize, and process; now, summary execution is the norm.

• Collateral Damage & Absurdities:

  • Ordinary Venezuelans—sometimes forced into smuggling by state collapse—are the true victims, not “masterminds.”
  • The public is misinformed about tattoos, emojis, or cultural motifs being gang signs—these are normal in Venezuela.
  • Policy is driven by racist, nativist incentives and a need to “look tough” rather than to address real crime.

Notable Quotes

• “The government here is going for low-hanging fruit… there doesn't seem to be a better reason for focusing on this organization which really is just not that involved in crime in the US nearly to the extent groups like the Sinaloa cartel are.” — Robert Evans, [62:42]

• “We've had so much discourse about Venezuelan people and crime. … Instead of talking about the hundreds, maybe thousands, of Venezuelan people who are involved in moving drugs to the US, we could talk about the millions … who just want to work hard and have a decent life.” — James Stout, [75:54]

• “The people driving the boats are not the people making the calls here. But they're the people being killed.” — Andrew Sage, [136:34]

III. From the Caribbean: Trinidad’s Geopolitical Tightrope

[110:24–138:33 / Host: Andrew Sage, with James Stout]

Main Points & Background

• Trinidad becomes embroiled in the escalating US–Venezuela conflict, with the new Prime Minister’s reckless endorsement of US strikes on boats in regional waters.
• Trinidad’s complicated postcolonial history is reviewed, including past US military presence, CARICOM regional alliances, and demographic politics.
• Dilemma: Trinidad must balance relationships between US (major trading/aid partner) and its much closer neighbor Venezuela (increasingly militarized, engaged in nationalist border disputes).
• The “War on Drugs” is largely seen as US regime-change posturing, not an earnest anti-smuggling effort.
• Rampant regional corruption, economic inequality, and everyday people caught in the middle—Trinidadian, Venezuelan, and Guyanese lives are at risk.

Notable Quotes

• “All the smoke and mirrors about drugs and fighting drugs … it really is smoke and mirrors, because if it was about that, they would be trying to get information to target the heart of the operation. What the US is doing is flexing … trying to poke and prod Venezuela to respond so that it has the excuse to intervene.” — Andrew Sage, [130:09]

IV. Executive Disorder and the Unreality Machine

[141:48–201:08 / Executive Disorder Weekly Newscast]

Panel: Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, James Stout, Robert Evans

Top News Segments

• ICE Facility Shooting in Dallas ([142:35])

  • Little is known; most available info is unreliable, fueling immediate online conspiracy theories (“false flag”). Hosts caution against weaponized unreality and urge listeners to slow down, analyze facts, and resist panic.

  • “Shootings in the U.S. are heavily driven by memetic spread… people act based on the virality of shootings they watch, see, or hear about.” — Robert Evans, [145:43]

  • Emphasis on the absurdity and futility of seeking comfort in conspiracies—believe reality, painful as it is.

• ‘Antifa as Domestic Terrorists’—Legal Reality

  • The administration’s “domestic terrorist group” declaration for Antifa is not legally binding—no new powers, mostly theater.

  • Legal protections still exist; recent court cases show the Justice Dept. is sometimes losing terror/rioting cases, evidence that institutions have not been entirely captured.

  • “Don’t assume there’s no point to fighting back or that you’ll just wind up in a fucking camp. People are going to court and winning.” — Robert Evans, [161:00]

• Executive Actions on Immigration

  • Rollout of $1 million “Gold Card” green cards (for the global wealthy) while tightening or gutting programs for workers (e.g., huge new H1B fees) and slashing the immigration judge corps.
  • Processing is slower, detentions are longer and more brutal, and all signals point to mass attrition rather than functional adjudication.

V. Eugenics and Public Health: The New Attack on Tylenol

[79:10–107:53 / Host: Mia Wong with Crystal (abortion care worker)]

Main Points & Insights

• RFK Jr. & Trump’s “Autism Cause” Announcement

  • The administration promotes a dangerous claim: taking Tylenol (acetaminophen) while pregnant causes autism and ADHD. There is no basis or evidence—this is a recycling of anti-vax/Andrew Wakefield pseudoscience cloaked in new policy language.
  • Tylenol is the only “safe” pain relief option in pregnancy; banning it—while promoting eugenic rhetoric about “fewer autistic kids”—forces people who are pregnant or ill to suffer needlessly, putting them and their children at increased risk.

• Broader Attack on Public Health

  • This approach is part of a broader anti-science, anti-medicine, pro-eugenics agenda: attacks on abortion, LGBTQ and trans people, and autistic/neurodivergent kids.

  • The campaign is grift-friendly, offering bogus “treatments” in place of basics like Tylenol and vaccines, and eroding trust in actual medicine.

  • “The only silver lining is that this shit is not popular… What they have is the violence of the state, and they’re going to try to keep doing that.” — Mia Wong, [100:09]

Actionable Advice

• Trust your doctor and OB/GYN, not presidential briefings or government agencies aligning with conspiracy theorists.
• Spread information: Tylenol during pregnancy is safe. Don’t let fear-mongering and eugenics win.
• Watch for increasing criminalization of pregnancy and the broadening attack on medical autonomy.

VI. Weaponized Unreality, Media Panics & Trans Rights

[187:00+]

Main Points

• Transgender “Violent Extremism” Misinformation

  • Correction of online viral stories: There is NO evidence the FBI is about to designate all trans people as a “terrorist threat group.” The right wants to invent the “Trans Ideology Violent Extremism” (TIV) label, but thus far, neither memos nor government proposals back the rhetoric.

  • Heritage Foundation is pushing for a TIV category, but even they say not all trans people would be targeted; it’s an effort to create law-enforcement narratives around acts by individuals, not declare a whole class “terrorists.”

  • “The fear-mongering massively boosts engagement, which then encourages people to use framing that might actually harm our community… The Transpanic Industrial complex is dangerous, and people need to be very careful.” — Garrison Davis, [194:44]

  • Actual threats are huge (loss of healthcare, spikes in violence, public bans) but the most viral stories can be demoralizing and distracting. The right wants panic for a reason.

• State-Sponsored Indoctrination & Rewriting History

  • The Department of Ed is now integrating explicitly theocratic groups like PragerU, Moms for Liberty, and Turning Point USA into public schools; Oklahoma will launch TPUSA chapters in every high school.
  • Orwellian messaging, revisionist history, and a coordinated effort to create a generation steeped in “America First” ideology.

VII. Agricultural Collapse Under Tariffs

[175:24–180:38 / Mia Wong]

• China has stopped buying US soybeans in response to tariffs; piles of unsold crop sit in storage, threatening an economic crisis in rural America.
• Because US agriculture is so politically influential, this may become a major political liability for Trump—bailouts can’t cover lasting loss.

VIII. Final Thoughts & Calls to Action

• Systemic cruelty is the point: Many of the week's stories highlight that US policy, at both home and abroad, seeks to foster attrition, confusion, and resignation among marginalized populations while enabling state violence and the entrenchment of plutocratic and theocratic power.
• Don’t panic—organize. Dispel disinformation but also don’t succumb to hopelessness. The court system, while battered, is not totally captured. True change—in immigration, health, rights—will require both mutual aid and systemic struggle.
• Know your rights, take care of one another, and don’t give in to weaponized panic.

TIMESTAMPS

• [02:34] Francis interview: The immigrant family in existential limbo
• [44:06] US airstrikes/Tren de Aragua: Migration, criminalization, and myth
• [110:24] Trinidad: Small island geopolitics amidst empire’s collapse
• [141:48] Executive Disorder: ICE shooting/false flag panic; new immigration policy; “gold card” green cards
• [175:24] Agricultural/soybean crisis from tariffs
• [79:10; 187:00+] Eugenics & public health attacks; trans community/panic industrial complex

Noteworthy & Memorable Quotes

“Our goal is to stay together no matter what. …I have always loved this country. It's always stood for greatness. And ironically, the group that thinks they're going to make America great again is failing miserably.” — Francis, [40:25]

“You have to look at the facts of how things are worse, as opposed to not reading or analyzing what the article actually says or analyzing what Heritage says and saying, ‘They're declaring all of us terrorists,’ because that's not going to end well.” — Robert Evans, [195:54]

“If you keep everyone engaged with this culture war nonsense…no one's going to care about farming tariff news…even if you're a big liberal outlet…half your audience is going to be like, 'Lmao, they voted for Trump, sucks for them.'” — James Stout, [180:08]

“Don’t panic, organize. That’s the actual solution to this.” — Mia Wong, [196:29]

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(Behind the Bastards | It Could Happen Here Weekly 201 | 09/27/2025)