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Behind the Markets Podcast
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Jeremy Schwartz, Global Chief Investment Officer at WisdomTree and Jeremy Siegel, professor of finance at Wharton and author of Stocks for the Long Run, host this long-running podcast that dives into the how and why of market performance with leading economists and market strategists to inform you what’s ahead for the economy and your portfolio.
Regularly joining the two Jeremys is the Deep Rooted Macro Team that decodes the forces shaping markets and portfolios worldwide.
Chris Gannatti, CFA, Global Head of Research, offers an analytical and thematic edge—bridging macro trends with on-the-ground technology and innovation. Whether unpacking the infrastructure powering the AI age or latest biotech breakthroughs, Chris translates complexity into conviction.
Jeff Weniger, CFA, Head of Equity Strategy, injects the pulse of behavioral markets and valuation discipline. With sharp macro instincts, Jeff dissects cycles, sentiment, and structural change with trademark clarity and wit.
Sam Rines, Macro Strategist for Model Portfolios, ties the threads together—linking policy, politics, and portfolio construction. His pragmatic macro lens captures how geopolitics, industrial policy, and energy dynamics flow into real-world GeoAlpha.
Together, the Deep Rooted Macro squad creates a fusion of rigorous research, accessible insights, and genuine debate.
Behind the Markets provides a regular masterclass in how the world really works beneath the surface of prices, data, and headlines. Tune in to hear where the Deep Rooted Macro team sees the next big shifts taking root.
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India to Mars: Contrarian Opportunities in a Changing World
2w ago00:47:46Tap to summarizeShow from 2026-05-22 Host Jeremy Schwartz is joined by Sam Rines, Jeff Weniger, Chris Gannatti and Jon Flynn to discuss geopolitical developments surrounding Iran negotiations, China’s growing pushback on ADRs and solar exports, and contrarian opportunities emerging in India, Europe and gold amid heavy investor outflows. The group also explores Nvidia’s latest earnings, the government’s new investments in quantum computing, and how expectations and capital flows are shaping the next phase of AI, commodities and infrastructure investing. (9:21) Jeremy continues with Chris, Jeff and Jon as they debate the rise of quantum computing, the strategic importance of rare earth metals and utilities, and the growing overlap between AI, energy and national security. The conversation also covers SpaceX’s upcoming IPO, private market enthusiasm surrounding AI and space, and how investors are beginning to think about the next generation of technological infrastructure and innovation. WisdomTree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments
Transcribe →China Summit Disappoints: Rated Minus 2 Out of 10
3w ago00:44:33Tap to summarizeShow from 2026-05-15 Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel discuss the market reaction to President Trump’s summit with China, with the Prof calling the outcome a disappointment due to tensions around Taiwan, limited progress on Iran and weaker-than-expected economic deals. Professor Siegel also highlights rising oil prices, higher long bond yields and the resilience of the U.S. economy despite growing geopolitical uncertainty and inflation pressures. (12:39) Jeremy continues with Samuel Rines, Jeff Weniger and Chris Gannatti to discuss rising global bond yields, the impact of Taiwan tensions on markets and the growing influence of AI-related trades across emerging markets and tech sectors. The group also examines opportunities in India, healthcare valuations and the ongoing quantum computing race, while debating whether the recent surge in AI and semiconductor names is becoming stretched. Sam closes by noting the surprising resilience of the U.S. economy and the possibility that stronger growth could justify higher long-term interest rates. WisdomTree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments
Transcribe →Paris, Tariffs, and S&P 8,000
4w ago00:56:07Tap to summarizeShow from 2026-05-08 Host Jeff Weniger and Professor Siegel discuss a much stronger than expected jobs report, the implications for Fed policy and interest rates, and how resilient AI-driven earnings growth continues to support equity markets despite geopolitical uncertainty and elevated oil prices. The Prof also comments on valuations, the declining energy intensity of the economy, and why he would not stand in front of the current momentum-driven market environment. (13:13) Jeremy is joined by Sam Rines and Jeff Weniger to discuss the latest developments surrounding Iran, China trade negotiations, tariffs and commodity markets. The group also explores the long-term outlook for oil supply, the growing divergence between energy and technology stocks, and the resurgence in AI-driven software and infrastructure names. They finish with a discussion on how AI is augmenting productivity across industries, the parallels to past technological revolutions, and why software companies may ultimately benefit rather than suffer from the AI boom. WisdomTree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments
Transcribe →AI CapEx, Fed Dissent, and the Bull Market That Won’t Quit
May 100:53:15Tap to summarizeShow from 2026-05-01 Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel discuss the latest Fed meeting dynamics, highlighting the unusual dissents toward a neutral bias and what it signals about the direction of monetary policy, while also reviewing strong economic data including historically low jobless claims, resilient retail sales, and a solid GDP print. Siegel emphasizes continued market strength driven by robust earnings, steady consumer activity, and sustained AI-related capital expenditures, while cautioning that rising oil prices and gasoline costs could pose a psychological and economic risk if they continue climbing. (13:53) Jeremy continues with Chris Gannatti, Jeff Weniger, Sam Rines, and Michael Fridman to break down a pivotal week in earnings, focusing on the acceleration of AI investment, exceptional strength in semiconductors, and early signs of improving sentiment in beaten-down software names. The group explores major tech results including standout performance from hyperscalers like Google, evolving competition between GPUs and ASICs, and how shifting capex flows are influencing market leadership and valuation debates. They also discuss portfolio positioning shifts toward software, geopolitical considerations impacting defense and Asia, currency movements in Japan, and broader global opportunities, while reinforcing the view that strong earnings growth and improving market breadth continue to support overall equity momentum. Michael on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelfridman23/ WisdomTree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments
Transcribe →Waiting for Signal
Apr 2400:36:06Tap to summarizeShow from 24/04/26 Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel discuss resilient equity markets amid geopolitical tensions, strong earnings with a high beat rate, and continued strength in AI-driven demand. The Prof highlights steady economic data, manageable oil price pressures, and expectations for a Fed pause with attention turning to future policy decisions and inflation risks. (12:57) Jeremy continues with Chris Gannatti, Jeff Weniger, and Sam Rines to break down a strong earnings season led by consumer spending resilience and semiconductor momentum, particularly Intel’s turnaround and AI-related demand. The group also explores mixed signals in labor markets, the impact of tariffs and tax refunds on consumption, and ongoing volatility in software stocks versus semiconductors, with debate over AI’s long-term impact on tech valuations and earnings growth. WisdomTree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments
Transcribe →New Highs and Low-lights
Apr 1700:38:57Tap to summarizeShow from 17/04/26 Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel discuss easing geopolitical tensions in the Middle East, declining oil prices, and the market’s positive reaction driven by liquidity and defense spending. The Prof emphasizes there are no signs of recession despite low consumer sentiment and highlights continued strength in employment and earnings expectations. (12:32) Jeremy continues with Sam Rines, Chris Gannatti, and Jeff Weniger to discuss the market implications of falling oil prices, global equity reactions, and opportunities in international markets like India and Korea. They explore earnings trends, valuation dynamics, and sector rebounds, while also անդր addressing developments in AI, quantum computing, and shifting narratives in commodities like gold and copper. WisdomTree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments
Transcribe →Behind the Charts
Apr 1000:59:12Tap to summarizeShow from 10/04/26 Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel discuss rising concerns around inflation and the possibility of a Fed rate hike driven by a recent increase in money supply and persistent energy price pressures. The Prof notes that while CPI came in slightly better than expected, resilient consumer spending and rising oil-related costs could complicate the Fed’s path, keeping policy restrictive for longer. (13:43) Jeremy is joined by Sam Rines, Chris Gannatti, Jeff Weniger, and MacroCharts to break down geopolitics, energy markets, and equity positioning. The group discusses the likelihood of a U.S.–Iran ceasefire, resilience in the U.S. consumer despite higher oil prices, and volatility in tech driven by AI competition and SaaS repricing. MacroCharts highlights a potential top in energy, a constructive outlook for equities driven by underinvestment and positioning, and emerging opportunities across commodities, international markets, and beaten-down sectors poised to join a broader market recovery. MacroCharts: https://www.macrocharts.com/ WisdomTree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments
Transcribe →Long-Term Bull, But Short-Term Cautious
Apr 300:44:42Tap to summarizeShow from 04/03/26 Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel discuss a surprisingly strong jobs report, the impact of rising geopolitical tensions and oil prices on the economic outlook, and the recent acceleration in money supply and its implications for Fed policy. Professor Siegel notes that while the labor market remains firm and long-term optimism persists, increased uncertainty from war and inflation risks warrants more short-term caution. (11:42) Jeremy continues with Chris Gannatti and Jeff Weniger to cover the potential SpaceX IPO and its implications for index inclusion and market structure, along with broader themes around companies staying private longer and the challenges that creates for public market investors. They also explore valuation trends in equities, shifting earnings expectations, and the evolving impact of AI—particularly in areas like drug discovery—while debating reporting standards and long-term innovation trends. WisdomTree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments
Transcribe →Tech Turbulence Today, A Retirement Sketchbook for Tomorrow
Mar 2701:48:23Tap to summarizeShow from 03/27/26 Host Jeremy Schwartz, joined by Jeff Weniger, Michael Fridman, and Chris Gannatti, discuss the recent tech-led market selloff, compression in equity valuations, and geopolitical-driven volatility impacting oil, rates, and global markets. They highlight that despite multiple contraction, forward earnings expectations remain intact, while dislocations in areas like cybersecurity and AI-linked equities may present selective opportunities. (59:58) Jeremy continues with Jamie Hopkins to discuss his new book on retirement planning, focusing on behavioral finance and the role of emotions in financial decision-making. Jamie emphasizes the importance of connecting with your future self, using visualization and automation to improve saving behaviors, and balancing emotional awareness with disciplined planning. He also highlights rising financial fraud risks in an AI-driven world and shares practical strategies for protecting personal data and making more resilient long-term financial decisions. Mike Fridman: https://x.com/justmikeel Your Retirement Sketchbook: https://www.amazon.com/Your-Retirement-Sketchbook-Planning-Financial/dp/1804091952 Jamie Hopkins: https://investors.wsfsbank.com/governance/board-of-directors/person-details/?ItemId=37a7fed2-efb6-4b89-8dc7-4f2b3404d370 WisdomTree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments
Transcribe →New Strategic Reserve Assets for the AI Era
Mar 2001:02:27Tap to summarizeShow from 03/20/26 Host Jeremy Schwartz is joined by Sam Rines and Chris Gannatti to break down the broader market and macro landscape. Sam analyzes the geopolitical situation involving Iran, energy markets, and global responses, noting potential de-escalation and limited long-term economic damage. Chris dives into major themes from NVIDIA’s GTC event, including the rise of AI agents, token-based productivity, and the accelerating shift toward physical AI such as robotics and autonomous systems. The group also explores the evolving labor market, AI’s impact on hiring and productivity, and the concept of a “strategic reserve of compute,” where chip scarcity and geopolitical risks could make existing AI infrastructure increasingly valuable. (33:51) Jeremy is joined by Professor Siegel and Kevin Flanagan. They discuss the latest market developments, including rising oil prices driven by escalating tensions in the Middle East, volatility around the S&P 500’s key technical levels, and the recent selloff in gold and commodities. Professor Siegel highlights the Fed’s updated projections, including a notable increase in long-term GDP growth expectations driven by productivity and AI, while emphasizing that geopolitical risks—particularly oil shocks—are currently the dominant force driving markets. He explains that while inflation pressures from tariffs and energy remain a concern, housing data is softening and AI continues to act as a long-term disinflationary force. WisdomTree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments
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