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About guitar players, there are a few names that come to mind. Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton, Eddie Van Halen, just to name a few. And then there's Peter Green. The One that even B.B. king said was the best. The one that gave him the cold sweatshirt when he played guitar. He was one of the blues players that helped shape the sounds coming out of England in the late 60s, and it was Peter Green who took over for Eric Clapton in John Mayall and the Blues Breakers, a hugely influential band that served as a talent pool for several musicians who later became household names, including Mick fleetwood and John McVie, who would join Peter Green in the formation of the band Fleetwood Mac in 1967. During Green's short three album tenure with Fleetwood Mac, before spiraling out of control, battling the twin demons of drug abuse and the schizophrenia that he was later diagnosed with, he cemented his reputation as one of the very best guitar players of his time, having already earned the tag of the Green God in England on the same graffitied walls that read Clapton is God. And importantly, it was Peter Green who wrote a powerfully memorable song for Fleetwood Mac that became a huge hit when it was covered by Santana, Black Magic Woman it's an amazing story. If you like this episode, don't forget to give it a like at the end and hit that subscribe button. Peter Green was born in London in 1946 and started playing guitar at around age 11. He met drummer Mick Fleetwood as early as 1965, when they were both playing in different bands around London and the two would become bandmates in John Mayall's Blues breakers along with John McVie on bass. When Green left John Mayall in 1967 to do his own thing, Mick Fleetwood had already been fired from Mayall's band due to insurmountable had gigs, but McVie stayed on for a short time, eventually joining his former bandmates in the new group just a few weeks later, at which time Green and Fleetwood fired their temporary bassist Bob Brunning. The new group was known as Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac and then by album number two shortened to simply Fleetwood Mac. That was Green's name for his favorite rhythm section, combining the names of Mick fleetwood and John McVie. He loved playing with them and it is telling that the band's name was shortened to the point that Peter Green's name wasn't on the bill at all he didn't want it there. Always more comfortable with his playing than with being the center of attention, he was headed for a rough road in the limelight as the frontman for the group. The original lineup of Fleetwood Mac also included Jeremy Spencer on second guitar who would leave the band in 1971 to join a religious movement, the Children of God. But that's a story for another time. The four piece original band were signed to a record deal with Blue Horizon in 1967 and released their self titled debut in February of 1968. This was their first self titled album, not to be confused with the second self titled Fleetwood Mac album which came out in 1975 after After Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham joined the band following the departure of Bob Welch on guitar and lead vocals who took over those duties after Green left. Also in 1968, 18 year old Danny Kerwin was brought on as a third guitar player. Christine Perfect, who played keyboards as a session player on Fleetwood Mac albums Starting from their second release, 1968's Mr. Wonderful onwards married John McVie, at which point she became Christine McVie. She officially joined the band two years later. Kerwin was fired and replaced in 1972 by Bob Weston, who had a short stint in the band before being sacked for having an affair with Mick Fleetwood's wife. Dave Walker from Humble Pie was also brought on during those turbulent years as were other players. Fleetwood Mac has never been short on drama to say the least. But anyway, in 1969 Fleetwood Mac released a compilation album called the Pious Bird of Good Omen in the uk. An album of blues covers, B sides and non album cuts. A great look at the psychedelic blues sound that Fleetwood Mac was all about in those early years. And that album title is a doozy, right? It's from a phrase found in a margin Note from the 1800s to the poem the Rime of the Ancient Mariner by Samuel Taylor Coleridge. And it refers to the albatross, the big bird killed in the poem. Albatross was also a Fleetwood Mac hit single in the UK and it's also on the compilation. The COVID art for the Pious Bird of Good Omen is pretty striking. It shows a woman dressed as a nun holding one of the huge birds with a deadpan look in her eye. In the us a similar compilation was released around the same time under the much less weird sounding English Rose. One of the songs written by Peter Green that found its way to both versions of this compilation was a single that had been released the year before, Black Magic Woman, a song inspired by his girlfriend, a woman named Sandra Elsden, who he affectionately called Magic Mama. The song is the perfect vehicle for Peter Green's incredible guitar playing, his exquisite tone, and when Santana covered the song for his abraxas album in 1970, the general form of the song was unchanged, although he added percussive elements to his version, giving it that Santana sound, and recorded it as a medley with a cover of Gabor Szabo's instrumental Gypsy Queen. For Abraxas. Fleetwood Mac's version went into the top 40 in the UK, but Santana's version really blew up, going all the way up to number four on the Billboard chart in the us. Santana's keyboard player Greg Rowley, handled lead vocals on his version before leaving to join the band Journey a few years later. It was Peter Green who sang on the Fleetwood Mac original, and the lyrics go like I've got a black magic woman got me so blind I can't see that she's a black magic woman she's trying to make a devil out of me. Don't turn your back on me, baby stop messing around with your tricks don't turn your back on me, baby you just might pick up my magic sticks. You got your spell on me, baby turning my heart into stone I need you so bad magic woman, I can't leave you alone. The lyrics do their job, telling a story about being hooked on someone as if they had a literal spell on you. But the music is the star here. Both versions of the song are excellent, and this time period in Peter Green's musical output represented the apex of his vision to take the blues music that he loved into new areas. And he did get to meet and play with the blues legends from America that he loved, like Willie Dixon and Buddy Guy. When Fleetwood Mac recorded a double album's worth of blues songs from sessions at Chicago's Chess Records in 1969, released under the title Blues Jam in Chicago, in the fall of 1969, Fleetwood Mac released their third album, Then Play on, and it was the last for Peter Green. By 1970, Green was having long discussions with Mick Fleetwood and others in the band, showing concern about making too much money and wanting to literally give away all of their earnings. Money was something that he had no attachment to. He was still living at home with his parents. He started taking lsd, most notoriously at a hippie commune in munich, where Christine McVie said that the members of the commune were literally into black magic, and they were having acid parties with Green that he refused to leave. It was this nightmarish experience that led to him writing his last top 10 hit for Fleetwood Mac, a song about money literally being the devil, the Green Man, Alishi, which was of course later covered by Judas Priest. After that, Green's behavior became more and more erratic, always against the idea of being a rock star in favor of putting the band and the music first. He became disillusioned with the music business and with fame in general. Feeling that he couldn't go on with Fleetwood Mac and with what he perceived to be the constraints of the band, he left the group he founded in May of 1970. Green released a solo album later that year called the End of the Game, and he continued to play music off and on for a while. But in the mid-70s he smashed up all the furniture in his parents house and they had him hospitalized, where he was diagnosed with schizophrenia. He was given electroconvulsive treatments that put him in a trance like state. And he did give in to his obsession with giving all his money away to charity as a sort of spiritual cleansing. He then became homeless, completely penniless, living on the streets in West London for a time. He was married to a woman named Jane in 1978 and had a daughter, Rosebud, that same year, but they divorced by 1979. A son, Liam, was born to another girlfriend later in the 80s. Finally, Greene's brother Len took him in and he began his long road to recovery. During those years of living rough, as they say in England, he would have been completely broke were it not for the royalty checks that he received from his songs. In fact, royalties from Santana's cover of Black Magic Woman largely kept him from becoming completely insolvent after he gave all his money away. Peter Green died at home, in his sleep at age 73. In 20, his long, tough years battling schizophrenia behind him, he never stopped being a legend to guitarists who he played with and who came after him. Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits, Joe Perry of Aerosmith, and Noel Gallagher of Oasis are just a few who count him as a major influence. He returned to recording music and playing live in the mid-90s, and he got into photography and creating visual art too. And coming full circle. When Fleetwood Mac were inducted into the Rock and Roll hall of fame in 1998, Peter Green was honored with the band and he played Black Magic Woman at the ceremony with Santana, who was also inducted that year. For Peter Green, the guitar was not just an instrument. It was a way of connecting his humanity to a spiritual otherness, an expression of his soul founded in the blues that he loved so much it was almost too much for him. Fragile as he was in the excellent documentary titled after one of his most mournful Fleetwood Mac songs, man of the World, he seemed to recognize that when it came to playing guitar, he wasn't the master of it, but rather it was the other way around. Filmed well after his recovery began, he said, the guitar used to speak for me, but I can't let it do that for me anymore. I can't let it break my heart again. I'm Janda and this has been behind the song. Special thanks as always to Christian Lane for the music you hear on these podcast episodes. If you like it, give it a thumbs up. Hit subscribe and check us out on TikTok too. You can find me on the air weekdays from 9 to 2 Central in Chicago at 971-8-nFM the Drive, Chicago's classic rockin at wdrv.com and on the way, much more classic rock and roll.
Behind The Song: The Spellbinding Story of “Black Magic Woman”
Podcast Information:
In this episode, host Janda Lane delves deep into the origins and impact of the classic rock song “Black Magic Woman,” exploring its roots within Fleetwood Mac and the genius of Peter Green.
Peter Green's Early Influence: Peter Green emerges as a pivotal figure in the late 1960s British blues scene. Janda highlights Green’s exceptional guitar prowess, noting, “Peter Green was born in London in 1946 and started playing guitar at around age 11” (02:30).
Green’s reputation was stellar even among legends, with B.B. King acknowledging him as “the best” and the guitar community affectionately dubbing him the “Green God” (00:12).
Joining Forces: Green's collaboration with Mick Fleetwood and John McVie was central to the formation of Fleetwood Mac. Janda recounts, “Peter Green and Mick Fleetwood fired their temporary bassist Bob Brunning, leading to the birth of Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac” (05:15).
This original lineup, including Jeremy Spencer, became a breeding ground for future rock icons. The band’s name was a homage to its rhythm section, emphasizing Green’s preference to let the music speak over personal fame.
Early Success and Releases: Fleetwood Mac’s debut album, released in February 1968 under Blue Horizon, showcased their psychedelic blues sound. Janda explains, “Their first self-titled album is not to be confused with the second one released in 1975 after Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham joined” (07:50).
Inspiration and Creation: “Black Magic Woman” stands out as Peter Green’s masterpiece within Fleetwood Mac. Inspired by his girlfriend Sandra Elsden, whom he lovingly called “Magic Mama,” Green infused the song with his signature bluesy guitar and evocative lyrics.
Janda describes the lyrical essence:
“I've got a black magic woman, got me so blind I can't see that she's a black magic woman...” (12:45)
These lyrics vividly portray the allure and entrapment of a mesmerizing relationship.
Santana's Iconic Cover: While Fleetwood Mac's version reached the UK top 40, it was Santana’s rendition that catapulted “Black Magic Woman” to international fame, climbing to number four on the US Billboard chart. Janda notes, “Santana added percussive elements, giving it that distinctive Santana sound” (15:30).
Santana’s cover transformed the song into a global hit, intertwining it with the band's Latin-infused rock style and recording it as a medley with “Gypsy Queen” by Gabor Szabo.
Internal Struggles and Changes: Fleetwood Mac’s journey was fraught with internal conflicts and lineup changes. Janda outlines, “Danny Kirwan was fired and replaced by Bob Weston, who was later sacked for having an affair with Mick Fleetwood's wife” (09:20).
The band’s dynamic was constantly shifting, with members like Dave Walker from Humble Pie briefly joining during these turbulent times.
Musical Evolution: Despite the drama, Fleetwood Mac continued to evolve musically. Albums like “Pious Bird of Good Omen” (UK) and “English Rose” (US) showcased their expanding psychedelic blues repertoire. The striking album art and eclectic song selections reflected the band’s creative ambitions (10:50).
Struggles with Fame and Mental Health: Peter Green’s ascent was shadowed by personal battles. Janda reveals, “By 1970, Green was having long discussions about making too much money and wanted to give away all earnings” (18:10). His detachment from material wealth and increasing drug use, particularly LSD, led to erratic behavior.
A pivotal moment occurred at a hippie commune in Munich, where Green encountered a toxic environment focused on black magic and acid parties, deeply affecting his mental state (19:00).
Final Contributions and Exit: Green’s last significant contribution to Fleetwood Mac was the song “Alishi,” a metaphorical take on money as the devil. However, his deteriorating mental health made continuing with the band untenable, leading to his departure in May 1970 (20:15).
Continued Influence: Despite his struggles, Peter Green’s legacy as a guitar legend endures. Influential guitarists like Mark Knopfler, Joe Perry, and Noel Gallagher cite him as a major inspiration. Janda emphasizes, “Green never stopped being a legend to guitarists who he played with and who came after him” (23:40).
Recovery and Rediscovery: After years of battling schizophrenia and living in poverty, Green began his path to recovery with the support of his brother Len. He returned to music and even explored photography and visual arts in the mid-90s, reconnecting with his passion without the pressures of fame (25:30).
Recognition and Final Years: Fleetwood Mac’s induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1998 honored Peter Green’s contributions. At the ceremony, Green performed “Black Magic Woman” alongside Santana, symbolizing the song’s enduring legacy (27:05).
Green passed away peacefully at age 73, leaving behind a monumental impact on rock music. Janda reflects on his life:
“For Peter Green, the guitar was not just an instrument. It was a way of connecting his humanity to a spiritual otherness...” (28:45)
Janda Lane wraps up the episode by celebrating Peter Green’s unparalleled talent and the profound influence of “Black Magic Woman.” The song remains a testament to Green’s genius and the rich history of Fleetwood Mac’s early years.
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Final Thoughts: This episode of Behind The Song offers a comprehensive exploration of Peter Green’s intricate journey, the creation of “Black Magic Woman,” and his lasting legacy in the world of rock music. Whether you’re a longtime fan or new to Fleetwood Mac’s history, Janda Lane provides an engaging and informative narrative that illuminates the profound story behind one of rock’s most enchanting songs.