Believer's Voice of Victory Audio Podcast

Episode: An Eternal Covenant With God 09/24
Date: September 24, 2025
Host(s): Kenneth Copeland Ministries (Kenneth Copeland & Professor Greg Stephens)

Episode Overview

This episode explores the profound significance and implications of God's eternal covenant with believers, tracing its biblical roots from Abraham through Christ and highlighting its impact on history, nations, and daily Christian living. Kenneth Copeland and Greg Stephens delve into faith, national destiny (particularly the U.S.), and the enduring power of the New Covenant to address life's challenges through faith in Jesus. The tone is passionate, reverent, and deeply rooted in Scripture.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Bible as a Book of Covenants

• Kenneth Copeland reiterates that the Bible is, at its core, a "book of blood covenants," not merely an old or new "testament."
  • "We have to remind ourselves continually and keep in the forefront that the Bible is a book of blood covenants. That's what it's about." (00:42)

2. Genesis 17 and the Everlasting Covenant

• The conversation centers on Genesis 17, where God changes Abram’s name to Abraham, promising him to be a father of many nations—and linking this to the spiritual legacy of America.

  • Copeland draws a line from Abraham to George Washington’s prayers after the Revolutionary War, reflecting on the U.S. being rooted in a covenantal relationship with God.
  • Memorable prayer from Washington is recited, emphasizing protection, gratitude, and the nation's destiny:
    • "Dear God, Almighty God, we make our earnest prayer that thou wilt keep the United States in Thy holy protection..." (03:20)

• Greg Stephens underscores that this "everlasting" covenant (Hebrew: olam) is a bond outside of time, connecting the faith line from Abraham through Christ to believers today.

  • "It's a Hebrew word, olam. It references a covenant made in eternity, not in time." (10:00)

3. Covenant, Protection, and American Destiny

• Stories are shared connecting the nation's protection to its covenantal roots:
  • St. Paul’s Chapel surviving 9/11 is presented as a modern example of divine intervention (05:06).
  • Dan Stratton, pastor near Ground Zero, is highlighted as someone leading his congregation in listening for God’s guidance. Miraculous stories from 9/11 about protection and timely interventions support this theme (06:51).
    • "One of them walked out of there with a white shirt, tie and suit out of all of that rubble. His clothes were not stained with ash." (06:51)

4. The Abrahamic Legacy and Namesakes

• Interesting historical links:
  • Abraham Lincoln’s name traced back to Abraham, strengthening the episode’s motif of historical continuity through covenant (09:36).
  • The concept that the U.S. is a "fulfillment" of Genesis 17 due to its role in spreading the gospel globally (10:13).

5. The Role of Faith: “The Just Shall Live by Faith”

• Central Reformation verse: Habakkuk 2:4—“The just shall live by faith.”
  • Discussion of Martin Luther’s revelation, with cross-references to Paul’s usage in the New Testament (14:03).
  • Accurate rendering is “The just by faith shall live.”
    • "It says the just by faith shall live. Well, that takes you to Romans 4, 16. Yes, it's a faith that it might be by grace we are justified by our faith.” (14:14)

6. Global Impact of the Covenant

• Stories from China: Underground church leaders, their dedication to the covenant, and the fruitfulness of faith despite persecution (14:43, 17:48).
  • Notable quote:
    • "We won so many souls. They wanted to get rid of us." – Copeland relating a Chinese believer’s testimony of evangelism behind bars (16:57)
  • The flow of believers from China and Taiwan into global ministries (17:48).

7. Covenant & The Solution to National Crisis

• Conviction that the covenant people of God possess answers to every American problem (18:22).
  • Faith is positioned as the transformative force for both individuals and society, including for addressing contemporary issues like immigration:
    • "All of the flood of people coming into our country, the migrants, if we just set tent meetings up all along that border, start getting them saved..." (18:32–18:48)

8. The Superiority of the New (Eternal) Covenant

• Deep dive into Hebrews—contrasting Old Covenant rituals with the unique, timeless nature of Christ’s mediation:
  • "He entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us... how much more shall the blood of Christ... purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God." (19:31)
  • The "veil" torn at Christ’s death symbolizes unrestricted access to God (21:08).

9. Exhortation to Remain in Faith and Community

• Call to perseverance, communal faith, and encouraging one another as the day of Christ approaches, referencing Hebrews (21:08).
  • “Let us consider one another to provoke unto love and good works, not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together...” (22:05)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Copeland: "I move by what I feel." (00:02)
• Stephens: "I don't live by what I see. Because my God has made a way for me." (00:07)
• Copeland (on Washington’s supernatural preservation):
  • “He came back and said, I'm not firing at this holy man anymore. Don't ask me to do it. And General Washington got back and there were holes in his jacket.” (03:16)
• Stephens (theology of the everlasting covenant):
  • “It references a covenant made in eternity, not in time.” (10:00)
• Copeland (Hebrews, on Christ’s eternal priesthood):
  • “I have everlasting life. I have an everlasting blessing. I have an everlasting priesthood. He is faithful. He is love. He is true. And if I keep my focus on that, all this other goes away.” (20:36)
• Stephens (call to faith and community):
  • “Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering. For he is faithful that promised.” (21:08)
• Copeland (on faith for America’s future):
  • “I'm convinced that the covenant people of God have the answer to every problem that's in America.” (18:22)

Key Timestamps

• 00:02–01:59 – Opening reflections, introduction of theme: the Bible as a book of covenants
• 02:01–06:49 – Genesis 17, Abrahamic covenant implications, George Washington’s prayer, St. Paul’s Chapel post-9/11
• 06:51–09:16 – Dan Stratton’s stories of 9/11 faith and protection
• 09:36–11:12 – Abrahamic legacy, Abraham Lincoln, “everlasting” Hebrew word study
• 11:12–14:43 – Reformation, Bonhoeffer, and global spread of faith—especially to China
• 14:43–18:22 – Chinese underground church story, exponential faith impact, continued gospel spread
• 18:22–19:28 – Faith as the answer for America and world issues; tent meeting vision
• 19:28–21:08 – Blood of Christ versus Old Covenant; the veil torn, open access to God
• 21:08–23:34 – Hebrews: exhortation to faith, community, and warning against drifting
• 23:34–23:36 – Closing setup and teaser for the next episode

Final Thoughts & Takeaways

• The Covenant is Timeless: Believers possess an eternal, irrevocable connection to God through the blood of Jesus, surpassing all temporal obstacles.
• Faith is Central: “The just by faith shall live” is more than a doctrine—it’s a daily practice and survival strategy in turbulent times.
• National Destiny: America’s historic role as a “nation under God” is interpreted as a covenantal fulfillment, framing both past victories and present challenges.
• Community & Exhortation: Staying connected, encouraging one another, and maintaining faith are essential as “the day approaches.”
• Miracles & Testimonies: Modern stories (from 9/11 to China’s churches) illustrate that the covenant is alive and still at work.

Closing Note:
The episode ends with reminders of the free Salvation Package for new believers and an affirmation:

• "God loves you and we love you and Jesus is Lord." (27:24)

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