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Kenneth Copeland
I move by what I feel.
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Greg Stephens
I don't live by what I see. Because my God has made a way for me. Hello, everybody. Welcome to Wednesday's edition of the Believer's Voice of Victory broadcast. Kenneth Copeland. This is Professor Greg Stephens, and we're pushing Kenneth Copeland to Bible College today. Amen. Victory in that college. Praise God. So anyway, we're talking about our covenant with God. And we have to remind ourselves continually and keep in the forefront that the Bible is a book of blood covenants. That's what it's about. It is, in my opinion, tragic that it's called the Old Testament. And there are. This is the reason why the classic amplified is so important. And one place where Jesus said, this is my blood of the New Testament. No, it doesn't say that. It said, this is my blood of the new covenant because this one is in his blood, which is perfect blood. Amen. Now, I want to go back here. Excuse me, to the book of Genesis. And I want to tell you in the radio and television audience that the Lord just dropped this in my heart. I mean, just as we sat down here.
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Kenneth Copeland
The moment you sat in that chair.
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Greg Stephens
Yes.
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Kenneth Copeland
Saw it happen.
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Greg Stephens
Just the second I sat down here, it kind of stunned me for a moment. So let's go back there to the 17th chapter of Genesis where this happened. Go to the seventh verse. I will establish my covenant between me and thee. No, wait, back up. Neither shall your name be called Abram, but thy name shall be called Abraham. For a father of many nations have I made of thee. Many nations. Many. Not one. Not the State of Israel. Many nations, many nations. For a father of many nations and the United States of America have I made of thee. Dear God, Almighty God, we make our earnest prayer that thou wilt keep the United States in Thy holy protection. Thou wilt incline the hearts of the citizens to cultivate a spirit of subordination and obedience to government and entertain a brotherly affection and love for one another. Fellow citizens of the United States at large, particularly for the brethren who've served in the field. They just finished the Revolutionary War. Britain sent a sniper, the best shot, the most covert man that they had to kill. General Washington. He had him point blank, more than once, and he fired on him. He came back and said, I'm not firing at this holy man anymore. Don't ask me to do it. And General Washington got back and there were holes in his jacket. He's the one praying this prayer. Grant our supplication, we beseech thee, through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen and now, Almighty Father, if it's our holy will that we attain a place and a name among the nations of the earth, grant that we may be enabled to show our gratitude for thy goodness by our endeavors. Fear and obey Thee. Bless us with thy wisdom in our counsels, success in battle. Let our victories be tempered with humanity. Endow us also our enemies with enlightened minds that they may come sensible of their injustice and willing to restore our liberty and peace. Grant the petition of thy servant, for the sake of whom thou hast called thy beloved Son. Nevertheless, not my will, but Thine be done. George Washington. Washington. These prayers that we. It's a matter of record now, but not all of them were prayed after that. Now St. Paul's Chapel in New York City is the chapel that survived 9, 11 and became a haven for the wounded and the sick. That happened this terrible attack by another group of people, but it survived. Things crashed all the way around it and didn't touch it. I'd like to meet the angels one day that stood there and kept that from happening. And then there are men like Dan Stratton who didn't run away from it, who ran to it. Most of the firemen and most of the policemen in New York City are Catholic and outstanding people. Well, they all know him. He pastors right there in New York City. But he'd been teaching his people how to hear the voice of God. About 85% of his people worked right there in the World Trade Center. But he's teaching them how to hear the God of Israel, the God of this nation.
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Kenneth Copeland
Amen.
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Greg Stephens
One of them walked out of there with a white shirt, tie and suit out of all of that rubble. His clothes were not stained with ash. And everybody wondered, where in the world have you been? One of them, member of his church heard, run down in the subway, boom. Dan said to me, he said, one man, he said, he said, you could set your watch by him. He is always on time. He's on time at church. He's on time everywhere. That morning his daughter said, well, takes her to school, and then I think he gets on the train, comes to town. She said, daddy, you never. She said, you never spend much time with me. Could we just stop and have an ice cream? He said, why not? He missed the whole thing. But he was. He kept. He told his cab driver he had gone home. And he said, take me down there. That cat trouble said, I don't know where I want to. He said, get me as close as you can. So he did. And he's coming in there, and he's trying to. And they just. They just kind of acknowledge him and nobody paying attention to him. Now listen to what God told him, Greg. He prayed. He said, lord, what do I do? He said, dan put on a collar. So he did, and he came up and, oh, Father Dan, would you help us here? Father Dan, would you help us in there? He was right in the middle of it. He was right down there in the mess, praying for people, getting people healed, leading people to the Lord. Father, Dad.
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Kenneth Copeland
I believe you're right on. George Washington tied us to a covenant.
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Greg Stephens
Yes, he did.
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Kenneth Copeland
When he did that, that goes back to Abraham, which if you're born again in Christ, I call the New Covenant. Now, it's a long title, but I call it the New Covenant of Abraham in Christ Jesus because Galatians tells us we've been taken back there. There's something very interesting.
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Greg Stephens
What is the name of the man that freed the slaves?
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Kenneth Copeland
Abraham Lincoln.
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Greg Stephens
Where do you think he got his name?
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Kenneth Copeland
Exactly where he got his name.
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Greg Stephens
Right here.
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Kenneth Copeland
I've noticed something, though. In Genesis 17, right after this name change to Abraham in verse 7 and verse 13 and verse 19, we have a new term, Everlasting.
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Greg Stephens
Yes, it is.
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Kenneth Copeland
I noticed that it's there three times now in Hebrew. It's a Hebrew word, olam. It references a covenant made in eternity, not in time.
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Greg Stephens
It's the heavenly connection.
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Kenneth Copeland
That's exactly what it is. The new Jerusalem time was made for us. This everlasting covenant is outside of our normal time that we're used to. Go ahead with that. And so this United States of America, honey, we're not going away. And this is why they want to destroy it, because of what George Washington did that day when he tied us to this covenant. And we became a fulfillment. We became a fulfillment of Genesis 17, what was promised to Abraham. Because where's the gospel come from? Right here. The Bible Society from the founding fathers was set up, and the gospel has gone around the world from this place. Everlasting. And part of everlasting, Brother Copeland, is blessing. This nation has been blessed, and we've blessed every other nation.
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Greg Stephens
Well, that's. And this nation since the beginning.
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Kenneth Copeland
So this is a covenant that's spiritual, not bound by earth.
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Greg Stephens
Up Until World War II, Germany was considered the most evangelical nation on earth.
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Kenneth Copeland
True.
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Greg Stephens
Through the. Through the Lutheran Church, because Luther really was the one.
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Kenneth Copeland
Reformation.
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Greg Stephens
Yeah. And he translated the Bible into the German language, which at the time was absolutely against the law of the church. Bonhoeffer came to the United States Dietrich Bonhoeffer and his dad was Bishop Bonhoeffer. And he was writing home when he went to church in New York. He said, this is an apostate church in the, in the United States. He was very. But then he came down south and he wrote back and said, no, I found it. He said, I found the real church. But then after World War II, particularly two out of three missionaries went to China before World War II, between World War I and World War II, they went to China. They went to China. They went to China. They went to China and then the United States delivered them from the Japanese. But it built up to the place. There are so many Christians in China and in Taiwan. And I met some of them because I preached in Beijing. And my first morning service there, preaching on faith. They had 60 people there, all of them very fluent in English. And the man that they did not use Chinese names. And this man's name was John and his wife's name was Mary. Anyway, they ought to hold the prosperity message. And I won't go into all that.
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Kenneth Copeland
You said Martin Luther. What was the verse that transformed Luther? The verse that transformed Luther was back at chapter two, verse four, the just shall live by faith.
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Greg Stephens
There it is.
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Kenneth Copeland
Paul will quote that same verse three times in the New Testament. The just shall live by faith. And if you read it in the original Hebrew, it doesn't say that. It says the just by faith shall live. And I asked Rick Renner because I needed to know what the Greek said. I said, rick need to know. And he said in Greek it says, the just by faith shall live. Well, that takes you to Romans 4, 16. Yes, it's a faith that it might be by grace we are justified by our faith.
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Greg Stephens
Now they had. That first morning was in his. He had a boardroom. Now I brought this up because I want to tell you they are so covenant minded that they have people there that they ride bicycles with a truck bed on the back of it. And he said, this is where I came from. He said, my father and my grandfather and I was born in a three meter room. We live there. Everything happens in that room. And he sold toilet paper. He said, I really planned to do that. But he said, I heard you preaching prosperity. Now here, this read I want you to hear. And I talk about covenant. And I start and I. So my first, my morning service there, you know, I was running along about like I did. I said, well, take a break here. He said, why, are you offended? I said, no. He said, brother Copeland, you don't understand. He said, these 60 people here represent over 2 million. He said, they have come, they've walked. He said, I didn't tell them who was coming because if I had, I wouldn't have had room for anybody. They would have all come, and we'd have been in trouble with the Chinese government. He said, these 60 are the cream of the crop. And they got here in order to hear faith. He said, now, this is a picture of the home that right now, where we live, this is a picture of the one we're building. Well, he got caught. He was in the printing business. He got caught printing Bibles. So they put him in prison. And he won his appeal three times. They didn't care. And so. But I didn't hear from him for a while. Then I was at the ministry's conference one morning, and there he and his wife walked in. I said, how'd you. Hey, how'd you get out? He said, you really want to know? He said, I have come to go to school. I'm going to Christ for the nations. And we all said, how did you get out of prison? He said, we won so many souls. They wanted to get rid of us.
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Kenneth Copeland
That's it. That's it.
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Greg Stephens
And every meeting we have, we'll have China come in, and we'll have Taiwan come in, listed in the nations. So our word is getting there. Somebody is taking that word out of our conventions, out of our meetings, and it's getting into China and Taiwan, and they are masters at hiding it.
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Kenneth Copeland
I'm convinced that the covenant people of God have the answer to every problem that's in America.
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Greg Stephens
I don't have any doubt about that at all.
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Kenneth Copeland
All of the flood of people coming into our country, the migrants, Brother Copeland, if we just set tent meetings up all along that border, start getting them saved, Washington would have shut the border to keep people from getting saved. That's my opinion, but I'm convinced of it. You look at flashpoint, you were just. You see it. People are coming. They're hungry. They know that government is not their God. Now, this government was established on the covenant, but that Constitution was to protect us from them and to limit them.
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Greg Stephens
Not to strengthen us. There's no such thing as anything happening without the spiritual realm knowing it.
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Kenneth Copeland
That's it.
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Greg Stephens
This book proves it. Because of the things that have happened over the years, I just flipped open to this then. Verily, the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service and a worldly sanctuary. For there was a tabernacle, a tent made then first, wherein was the candlestick, and the table. This is the Holy Ghost through the apostle Paul. I mean, he's laying this thing out neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood. He. He entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. For if the blood of bulls and of goats and of the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean sanctifies to the purifying of the flesh, how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit, offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God. And for this cause, he is the mediator of the New Testament. If you look that up, it'll say the new Covenant.
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Kenneth Copeland
That's right. All other covenants were made in time. When we get to this one with Abraham, and it's everlasting, that's outside of time. And he is the mediator of that everlasting eternal covenant that you and I are part of. So I have everlasting life. I have an everlasting blessing. I have an everlasting priesthood. He is faithful. He is love. He is true. And if I keep my focus on that, all this other goes away.
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Greg Stephens
This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord. I will put my laws into their hearts and in their minds will I write them, and their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. All of these have little references back to the first one. Now, where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin. Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, by a new and living way which he hath consecrated or made new for us through the veil, that is to say, the flesh. Remember the veil of the temple. When Jesus gave up, the ghost was split from the top to the bottom. That thing was 4 inches wide and 40ft wide and 4 inches thick. That's what he's referring to. Having a high priest over the house of God. Let us draw near with a true heart and full assurance of faith. Having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water. Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering. For he is faithful that promised. Let us consider one another to provoke unto love and good works, not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is, but exhorting one another and so much the more, as you see the day approaching. For if we sin willfully after that we we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sin, but a certain fearful looking for judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. He that despised Moses law died without mercies unto two or three witnesses. How much more sore punishment. Suppose ye how she be worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant whereof which is sanctified by a holy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace. For we know him that hath said, vengeance belongeth to me. I will recompense, saith the Lord, and again the Lord shall judge his people. It's a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Oh, that we're out. Sign came up again.
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Kenneth Copeland
I got a verse. I'll share it tomorrow.
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Greg Stephens
Okay. Oh, we'll be back in just a few.
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Narrator/Announcer
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Salvation Package Presenter
If you want to enjoy a life of success and victory, then you have to do things good. The good news is God has made a way for you to enjoy this kind of life he has for you. He sent Jesus to die in your place and pay the price for sin which separated you from God. Then Jesus was raised from the dead, victorious over sin and all the powers of darkness. Now he's inviting you to share in his victory by being born into God's family. If you're ready to leave the life of darkness and defeat behind, then I encourage you to pray this with me. Lord, I call upon your name. Today I give you my life. Be my total victory. I receive you as my Savior. Thank you that I'm born again.
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Greg Stephens
Amen.
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Salvation Package Presenter
Praise God. You have just been born into his family. God has rescued you from the kingdom of darkness and and made you a born again citizen of his kingdom. You are a joint heir with Jesus, sharing in all the rights and privileges he has. If you'd like to learn more about your new life in God's family, Kenneth and Gloria Copeland have a gift they would like to send you for free. And it's called the Salvation Package. There's a book called He Did it all for your and two brochures to help you get started reading your Bible. These resources will help you understand your new life and identity in God's kingdom. God, your loving heavenly Father is so ready to teach you how to live your life in victory. To request your Salvation package, go to kcm.org if you have just received Jesus as your Lord and Savior, call us and let us know. We want to rejoice with you for the new life you have received. Our prayer ministers here at KCM are licensed and trained in the word of God and they are ready to pray in faith with you over any situation you may be facing.
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Greg Stephens
I had the Lord say to me once, don't forget the angels. Are they not all ministering spirits sent forth to minister for those that are the heirs of salvation? We're going to talk about that. But in the meantime, remember this. God loves you and we love you and Jesus is Lord.
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Kenneth Copeland
Hallelujah.
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Greg Stephens
Praise God forevermore. Thank you for joining us on the Believer's Voice of Victory. If you receive Jesus as your Lord and Savior, Kenneth and Gloria Copeland have a gift for you. It is called the Salvation Package. Learn about the new birth and how you can live your new life victoriously in Christ. Receive your free package on kcm.org salvation keep your heart full of God's word and continue to grow in faith. Every believer has a voice and it is the voice of victory.