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I move by what I feel. I don't live by what I see. Because my God has made a way for me. Hello everybody, I'm Kenneth Copeland. Welcome once again to the Believer's Voice of Victory broadcast. Now, Professor Stevens and I yesterday, as you know, were talking about. We're still dwelling on the fact that this book is a book of blood covenants, not just agreements. And as we've said before, it's well to be called the Old Testament and the New Testament, which 99% of the Christian people, that to them that's what it is. It's a book of covenants in blood. And that has caused an enormous amount of misunderstanding. Had people understood what these are, they would have never ever been concerned about what is the will of God. For me, it's true, because you go into that kind of an agreement, a blood agreement is the most serious thing on the face of the earth. And as we said earlier, there are still tribal tribes world that do it today. And there's a lot of them that are not good. But it started with Abram. God appeared to him and said, your name will no longer be Abram, but Abraham, for I have made you the father of many nations. Many nations, including the United States. Because we came out of that and because of a lack of knowledge of this, nobody paid any attention to the covenant that our first President and our first Congress made with God on the 17th chapter of the book of Genesis. And there are people that will say today, well, it's not a Christian nation. Really? Really, really, really, really. The Liberty Bell, Liberty in the land has a quote from the book of Leviticus on that bell. And they rang it till they broke it. There was one charlatan preacher, I could call you his name, but I don't see any use in that. His charlatan preacher and one of his remarks, well, see, there are a lot of people got saved under his ministry. It wasn't he didn't do it. But here again, he memorized sermons. And like the man I told you about from the state of Texas, that he memorized Spurgeon's sermons, Oral Roberts sermons, and sometimes he'd mix them up. But he had a lot of people saved and healed. But he got caught, went to prison in the state of Texas and got saved on his own sermons. But see, that's where there's other people. But this other guy turned actor then and he thought he's a good actor because of what he was doing. But he wasn't getting good as an actor either. But he said I'll tell you, that's a bloody bunch. Had no understanding how he was blaspheming this book when he said that. That's a dangerous thing to say. The reason it says Holy Bible is for that reason. It's God's word because it's his bond. He established it for the purpose a restoration. This is a book of restoration. After the sin in the Garden of Eden. That's where it began.
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When Adam transgressed, he walked away from God. It changed everything. It changed the ministry of angels. It changed the planet. And so how is God going to fix this? Adam can't fix it. No descendant of Adam can fix it until that promised seeds. So all of these agreements, lack of a better word, so you can understand it, all of these covenants and blood made by God were the answer to get God back into the world. And that'll be done through Jesus. All these covenants point to one person. His name is Jesus. And when he fulfilled what you would call the Old Testament or the Old Covenant, when he fulfilled that, he ushered in something new and something back. Like it was to get us back. I demonstrated it several months ago, maybe a year ago with you. We were here when we fell. Then he brought us back up. He got us back to that place, to the place that we were in Eden. That's where we should be walking and living our life as. As he is, so are we in this world. But at one time, before you met Jesus, if you haven't met him, you need to. Before you met him, you were a stranger and an alien to this book, to these covenants.
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Now let's go to the book of Ephesians then. And. Oh my. Sometimes just read it. The whole thing. It's a letter. Read it as a letter in the second chapter. Let's begin reading with the fourth verse. But God, who is rich in mercy for his great love, wherewith he loved us even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us or made us alive together with Christ by grace are you saved. Raised us up together and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus. Listen to that. Made us sit together with him in heavenly places that in the ages to come he might show the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus by grace are you saved through faith. And that's not of yourselves. It is the gift of God. What? The grace of the faith. Both.
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That's right.
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Both. Not of works lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship created in Christ Jesus unto Good works which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. Wherefore remember that you being in time past Gentiles just simply means somebody without God.
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Without a covenant.
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Yeah, without a covenant in times past gentiles in the flesh, who are called uncircumcision by that. Now, did you catch on to that? Don't let that. Just because this started out as a Jewish church.
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That's correct.
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Everybody in it until the 10th chapter of the book of Acts.
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That's correct.
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When God put Peter in a trance and sent him to Cornelius, who was the centurion that said this must have been the Son of God. Well, he'd been praying, seeking God. Now you were without Christ. Now, here's what happens when you're without the anointed one and. And without the anointing that goes along with it. Because an article of our covenant. Jesus is ours for the asking. Yes, sir, he is ours for the asking. He shed his blood. We didn't have to.
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Brother Copeland, our covenant is not. It's irrevocable, but it's not unconditional.
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That's right.
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You have to receive him.
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And the reason it's irrevocable is because it's between God and Jesus.
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That's right.
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And he's the high priest of it. At that time, you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, strangers from the covenants I put out right here. Strangers from the blood covenants of promise, having no hope without God in the world. Now let's do it. But now in Christ Jesus, you who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ already God. There it is.
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It's a blood covenant.
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I mean, that wraps the whole thing up. It's just said for us right there. So then you can follow this man to the book of Hebrews. It is all in the book of Hebrews. The blood of bulls and goats, the blood of Christ, the heavenly utensils of worship and all of this. And you have to remember that this man spent a long time in the deserts of Arabia. And he made the statement about knowing Christ personally as one born out of time. He couldn't have been. He couldn't have been Judas replacement. No way. Because those apostles of the Lamb had to have been there from the beginning, all the way through the crucifixion. He came in when Ananias came. I mean, he was persecuting the church.
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Yes, he was.
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So he didn't qualify for that. But then the Lord said, I will show him the things he Must suffer for my name's sake.
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That's right.
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So all of that, really. That's a huge statement. However, let's go back to the first covenant. Now into the book of Leviticus and chapter 26. Let's begin reading with verse three. If you walk in my statutes and keep my commandments and do them, then I will give you rain in due season. The land shall yield her increase. Not its increase. That is very significant. Most people say. Well, the land will yield, you know, yield its. No, he said, the land shall yield her increase and the trees of the field shall yield their fruit. Your threshing shall reach unto the vintage. Or the word there in the Hebrew is overlap. Shall reach into the sowing time. You shall eat your bread to the full. And you shall, you shall, you shall. These are exceeding great and precious promises, but it's conditional. I will give peace in the land. You shall lie down and none shall make you afraid. I will rid evil beasts out of the land. Neither shall the sword go through your land. And you shall chase your enemies. They shall fall before you by the sword. And five of you shall chase a hundred. And a hundred of you shall put 10,000 to flight. Your enemies shall fall before you by the sword. For I will have respect unto you and make you fruitful and multiply you and establish my covenant with you. You shall eat old store and bring forth old because of the new. I will set my tabernacle among you and my soul shall not abhor you. And I will walk among you and will be your God and you'll be my people. I am the Lord, your God, which brought you forth out of the land of Egypt. You shall not be there barren. And I have broken the bands of your yoke and made you to go upright. Glory to God. Hallelujah. Well, I have second Corinthians 6, 16 right there. And I have, and I chase a hundred. You know what I put out beside that? 1948.
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That's right.
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He did it, didn't he?
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Yes, he did.
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Under impossible odds.
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That's great.
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People said, that is impossible. It can never happen.
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Good kings, bad kings, exile. He did it.
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He did it.
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The reason why is verse nine. I want you to learn to pay attention to something. And I pray. I'm going to hold this up for a second, if you don't mind.
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I wish you would.
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God, the Covenant and the Contradiction book. I pray that you learn to hear covenant when you read the Bible. Covenant words jump out at you. Covenant promises jump at you. And because it becomes your reality, that's.
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My prayer for that. Someone is having their. Your ears are being healed right now. We have a healing covenant with the Most High God.
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That's right.
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Jesus saw to that. We have it. And it's all the way through the first covenant, all the way through the second. How Jesus Christ. How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and power, who went about doing good and healing all that were oppressed of the devil. For God was with him.
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He's fulfilling the covenant.
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Yes, he is.
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And he says right there in verse nine of Leviticus, and establish my covenant with you.
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There's that shoulder thing again. And for your benefit, it's Abram. This came up while we were praying over today's messages. But there it is again. Shoulders with pain that just right now. Just put it on up there. Glory to God.
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Amen.
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This dear woman in Harrogate, England, and she came up there and she said, I couldn't move this and I couldn't move this. And she said, I couldn't do this and I couldn't do this. And she just kind of lost it. She's just an old grandma. Low back is being healed right now. Knees. Glory to God. Jesus bought and paid for your body to be healed. And man suggests you do this, do the same thing. I just have a little notebook. It's a little yellow one, lines on it. And when I walk into my bathroom every day. I did it this morning, walked up there and look into that mirror. And it's right here where I'm going to shave. But before I do anything, I took my. I take my supplements that are first thing supplements in the morning. I do it when I. When I get up and work out on the treadmill. I get up and do all of these things before breakfast. But there they all are. Isaiah 53. Now go through that. Then I come down and it is written in Matthew 8:14. Jesus came to Peter's house, saw his wife and mother laid sick of a fever. Touched her hand, the fever left her. She rose up and ministered unto them. And when evening came, they brought many who were possessed with devils. And he cast out the spirits with his word, and healed all that were sick that it might be fulfilled. Which was spoken by Isaiah the prophet. He took our infirmities and bare our sicknesses. Yes, sir. And then to come right down under that first Peter 2:24. And he bore our sins in his own body on the tree. That we, being dead to sin, should live unto righteousness, by whose stripes ye were healed. If I Were I am. And that's where faith comes into it now. Sits there. It's worn out. Finally, they got started curling up at the end. So I got some scotch tasting taped the bottom of it every day. And when I'm on the road somewhere, I do it. Then I don't have to have it taped up in front of me. It just lives on the inside of me all the time.
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It's become reality all the time. There's a difference between accepting and expecting.
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Yes, you have to accept more than once.
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You have to accept this is not an experiment with Jesus.
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No, it is.
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It's your life.
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And more than once, over the years, I couldn't tell you how many times that I just say to the Lord, I remind you of your covenant?
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Yes, sir.
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There's blood between the two of us. I have a mandate from God to live to be 120 years old. And I accepted it. I didn't accept it the first time it came up. I didn't know whether I wanted to do that or not. And he continued talking to me about it, and he just said, will you do this for me? And finally I said, yes, sir, I will. Well, now I get on the treadmill and I, you know, start getting tired. I got up there one day, and it's early in the morning. I don't know where I want to do this. And I heard him say, I sacrificed my body for yours, and now you're sacrificing your body for mine. And I appreciate it. I said, turn this thing many times on the road, particularly back there in the early days where things would happen to me. And I'd say, I want to remind you of your healing covenant. There's blood between us.
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That's right.
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And you're my blood brother, and I'm expecting you to do something about this. And I expect it now, not later. I need it now. There's blood here. There's blood between my family and you and your family, so. And if you'll listen, you get some answers. I got up one morning, it was early, and I stood around and he said, my word doesn't have any place in you. And it's bad. I went back to bed. I mean, it kicked me in the gut. I went back to bed and I said, well, I know if you said it, that's true. And he and I had a serious discussion. He did all the talking. His word has place in me. But this is what I'm talking about, Greg. You live a covenant life.
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Yes, sir.
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That's what he Intended for people to do.
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You know, he's making intercession on our behalf before the Father right now.
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You too.
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He said, if you confess me before men, I'll confess you before my Father. You know what that is? That's Jesus. You ready for this? Pleading the blood over you.
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That's right. That's exactly right.
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You plead the blood all the time. He pleads the blood over you to the Father.
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His blood is there.
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Right there. It's alive.
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Yes, it is.
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And it speaks.
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It never dies.
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If the blood of Abel spoke to where God said, I hear his blood crying out, believe me, the blood of Jesus still speaks and still cleanses, still heals.
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My spiritual father, Oral Roberts, preached a sermon on that about the blood crying out. The blood cries out. The blood cries out. And he. And he said this. He said, you criticize. He said this in the message. You criticize a brother or anybody else, you criticize them. Or you just say things that shouldn't be said. He said, what you don't realize is the blood cries out and you're guilty. He said, the blood of Jesus is crying out and you need to straighten that up. Well, I never thought of that. But the blood is crying out. Amen. The blood is. Somebody coming right around your waist here like this. Feels like a band just pulling tight up into you, right around your kidneys and so forth. And in the Satan, you take your hands off of God's property. I break that band right now. In Jesus name. Now just be loosened up. That started from some heavy worry. And you don't have anything to worry about. You roll your care over on Jesus. He's your caretaker. Read first Peter 5. Find that precious promise. Amen. Thank you, Jesus.
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You said it just a while ago. And this is referring to the blood in First Corinthians, chapter 11. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you. And many sleep because they don't rightly divide the Lord's body. The blood cries out, and he pled the blood over you and I. There's no reason you're walking around sick. There's no reason you're walking around depressed.
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That's right.
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No reason you're anxious, worryful. What you were saying. It's time to just roll that off and walk in his love.
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Let's. You reminded me of this. Exodus 20:3. Okay. And people have misread this. And you have to back up and read the 20th verse 25. Exodus 23, 25. But I will send an angel before you to keep you in the way. Do you hear what he's saying? I will. You don't have to see him. Well, we'll take this up tomorrow. We're out of time, but we'll take it up right here. But over here it says he will bless you bread and water. I will take sickness from the midst of it. And I stopped right up by the side of my driveway and I got a hold of that one day and I shouted, I'll never be sick another day in my life forever. And I haven't been since then. Amen. We'll be back in just a moment.
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Discover how simple the answer to every question and every problem in life can be in the Covenant and the Contradiction, a new book by Kenneth Copeland and Greg Stephens. In this approachable book, dive deep into what a covenant is and what it's for. Discover what your covenant does for you and learn to overcome every contradiction and obstacle. With every covenant promise comes a contradiction. When you read in the Bible that by Jesus stripes you're healed and the diagnosis comes back incurable, or when you're facing a towering stack of unpaid bills, when you read that God promises you prosperity, common sense and human reasoning rise up to shout, there's no way that God's promises will happen in your life. Thank God. Covenant men and women throughout time have refused the contradiction and praised through in faith to the end result the blessing promised by God. And you can too see the Bible unfold more clearly than ever before in the Covenant and the Contradiction.
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And there's a warning here that there are people that use the blood to express themselves. I bloody well will not. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no. We have faith in the blood, so we'll see you again tomorrow. Until then, this is Kenneth Copeland, Greg Stephens and all the class reminding you that God loves you and we love you and Jesus is Lord.
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Yes, he is.
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Lord.
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Episode: The Old and New Covenants Point to Jesus
Date: September 29, 2025
Hosts: Kenneth Copeland (A), Greg Stephens (B)
Main Theme: Understanding the Old and New Covenants as Blood Covenants that Point to Jesus
In this episode, Kenneth Copeland and Greg Stephens explore the nature of the Old and New Covenants as blood covenants, not merely agreements, tracing their fulfillment in Jesus Christ. They discuss the seriousness and significance of covenant in the Bible, its impact on Christian identity and living, and practical steps believers can take to walk in the reality of their covenant promises—particularly healing. Using biblical examples, personal stories, and direct scriptural references, they encourage listeners to embrace an active, expectant faith rooted in their unbreakable blood covenant with God.
Blood Covenant vs. Agreement:
Historical and National Relevance:
Covenants Purpose:
Restoration to Eden:
Blood Covenant: Unbreakable but Conditional on Faith
Old Covenant Promises:
Hearing and Expecting Covenant Promises:
Practical Application and Daily Rituals:
From Acceptance to Expectation:
Jesus’ Intercession—Pleading the Blood:
Guarding Speech about the Blood:
Rolling Your Cares onto Jesus:
“A blood agreement is the most serious thing on the face of the earth.”
— Kenneth Copeland (01:25)
“All these covenants point to one person—his name is Jesus.”
— Greg Stephens (05:04)
“Our covenant is irrevocable, but it's not unconditional—you have to receive Him.”
— Greg Stephens (09:05)
“If I Were, I am. And that's where faith comes into it now.”
— Kenneth Copeland, reflecting on healing as a past-tense covenant promise (17:50)
“You have to accept this is not an experiment with Jesus—it’s your life.”
— Greg Stephens (18:18)
“There’s blood between us. … And I expect it now, not later.”
— Kenneth Copeland, on praying with covenant confidence (19:48)
"His blood is there. Right there. It’s alive. And it speaks."
— Greg Stephens (21:11)
"If the blood of Abel spoke, ... believe me, the blood of Jesus still speaks and still cleanses, still heals."
— Greg Stephens (21:18)
The conversation is deeply reverent, faith-filled, and practical, with both hosts encouraging listeners to personally embrace, confess, and expect their covenant rights in Christ. The episode mixes firm theology with lived testimony and direct encouragement for daily living.
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