Inside Burden of Guilt S2 | BONUS

Summary

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Podcast Summary

Podcast: Betrayal Season 5
Episode: Inside Burden of Guilt S2 | BONUS
Hosts: Andrea and Nancy Glass
Release Date: April 30, 2026

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Episode Overview

This special bonus episode of Betrayal spotlights Season 2 of Burden of Guilt, hosted and executive produced by Nancy Glass. Andrea and Nancy discuss the powerful true story at the heart of the new season, which tracks the collision of two men's lives through a wrongful conviction and a redemptive act of confession. The episode touches on themes of injustice, redemption, the impact of secrecy on lives, and explores the idea of what makes a "perfect victim." A preview of Burden of Guilt S2's first episode reveals how a crime that "never happened" still destroyed lives—and how, decades later, the true story finally comes to light.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Why Burden of Guilt Resonates with the Betrayal Audience

• Audience crossover: Both shows attract listeners "who connect emotionally with other people, people who care, and people who understand what injustice is all about."
  (Nancy Glass, 02:13)
• Wrongful conviction: Jermaine Hudson was "convicted of a crime that never happened" and sentenced to 99 years based on a false accusation.
  (Nancy Glass, 02:37)
• The aftermath of lies: The true impact of falsehoods and the tragically high cost paid by innocent people.

“This man was put away and lost half of his life because he was wrongfully convicted. That's one thing, but what's worse is he was convicted of a crime that never happened.”
— Nancy Glass (02:37)

2. Parallels and Contrasts with Stories on Betrayal

• Redemption arc: Unlike many Betrayal cases, this story introduces the rare element of offender contrition and effort to make amends.
• Perspective on perpetrators:

  “These bad guys, they don't apologize. They're not interested in redemption because they don't think they did anything wrong.”
  — Nancy Glass (04:03)

• Andrea notes that this season offers "a redemption arc for one of our offenders"—a first for either show.
  (Andrea, 03:38)

3. Story Structure and Cliffhangers

• Engagement: The storytelling approach in Burden of Guilt S2 is praised for its strong narrative hooks and suspenseful pacing.
• Andrea describes the season as so compelling, “Every episode, you're just on the edge of your seat.”
  (Andrea, 04:22)

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Sneak Peek: Burden of Guilt Season 2, Episode 1 (Starts at 04:50)

Introduction by Nancy Glass (04:50–06:09)

• Nancy recounts her journalistic background covering major American crime stories and gives context to the new season.
• Previous season focused on Tracy Raquel Burns, a woman framed for murder as a child.

The Scene is Set: True Light Baptist Church (06:09–07:11)

• Setting: Eunice, Louisiana, at a predominantly Black church with deep community roots.
• Introduction of Pastor Jermaine Tezeno, who notices a stranger—“clearly broken”—in his congregation.

Memorable Quote

“He didn't have the best clothes on. You could tell he was on the street. I would say he looked broken.”
— Pastor Jermaine Tezeno (07:29)

Rising Suspicion (07:11–08:43)

• Pastor Tezeno recalls his immediate concern: a white man in a Black church, evoking memories of the Mother Emanuel church shooting.

“You are Caucasian and you are in the majority African American church. Like, what's your intentions?”
— Pastor Jermaine Tezeno (08:08)

• The pastor’s protective instinct:

  “It's not going to be dead here. I will die for my sheep.”
  — Pastor Jermaine Tezeno (08:43)

The Confessional Meeting (09:02–10:55)

• Bobby Gumprite, the stranger, reveals himself as homeless and in distress.
• He asks, “Do you do confessions?”—launching the season’s central storyline.
• Bobby’s confession is so shocking it leaves the pastor speechless.

“He was carrying a secret. A secret so terrible, it felt like a thousand pound weight pressing down on his chest.”
— Nancy Glass (10:28)

Immediate Aftermath (11:00–12:05)

• Unable to process the revelation, the pastor provides Bobby shelter and care.
• The next day, Bobby disappears, leaving his secret behind.

“When Bobby left, his secret left with him. And until this story was exposed, another man's life would hang in the balance.”
— Nancy Glass (12:05)

Bobby’s Backstory: Early Trauma and Family Life (12:05–17:37)

• Childhood in a military family; father in the Navy, mother absent after parents' divorce.
• Closeness with his father, later with a devoted stepmother.
• A tragic incident at age 8: Bobby accidentally shoots a friend while playing with a gun.
  • “I don't know if I pulled the trigger or my finger slipped. I didn't know it was loaded, but either way, the gun went off and shattered the door and he was on the ground.”
    — Bobby Gumprite (16:15)

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Notable Quotes

• On Wrongful Conviction:
  “This man was put away and lost half of his life because he was wrongfully convicted. That's one thing, but what's worse is he was convicted of a crime that never happened.”
  — Nancy Glass (02:37)

• On Redemption:
  “These bad guys, they don't apologize. They're not interested in redemption because they don't think they did anything wrong.”
  — Nancy Glass (04:03)

• On Bobby’s Burden:
  “He was carrying a secret. A secret so terrible, it felt like a thousand pound weight pressing down on his chest.”
  — Nancy Glass (10:28)

• On Pastor Tezeno’s Suspicion:
  “You are Caucasian and you are in the majority African American church. Like, what's your intentions?”
  — Pastor Jermaine Tezeno (08:08)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [01:27] Introduction to Burden of Guilt S2
• [02:13] Why Betrayal fans will find this season powerful
• [03:01] Overview of the wrongful conviction
• [04:03] On the rarity of redemption among ‘bad guys’
• [04:50] Sneak Peek: Burden of Guilt S2, Episode 1
• [07:29] Pastor Tezeno notices Bobby Gumprite in the church
• [09:02] Confessional meeting in the pastor’s office
• [10:28] Bobby’s confession
• [12:05] Bobby disappears, secret unresolved
• [13:30] Bobby’s childhood and family dynamics
• [16:15] Childhood gun accident—a formative trauma

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Memorable Moments

• The emotional tension in the church as Bobby seeks confession and the pastor’s concern for his congregation’s safety.
• The pastor’s shock upon hearing Bobby’s secret and the immediate, compassionate response to help a person in need.
• The sense of mystery and tragic destiny: Bobby's secret impacts another man's fate long before the truth comes to light.
• Vivid storytelling: Andrea and Nancy’s mutual admiration, and the promise of narrative twists and redemptive arcs not often seen in stories of betrayal.

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Closing Thoughts

This Betrayal bonus episode skillfully introduces listeners to the world of Burden of Guilt Season 2, setting up an emotionally charged story about redemption and justice. Listeners are left with a sense of high stakes, suspense, and a drive for truth—a promise that every episode will deliver both hard-hitting content and deep emotional payoff.

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Transcript

[Andrea]

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[Nancy Glass]

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[Doug]

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[Nancy Glass]

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[Doug]

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[Nancy Glass]

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[Doug]

What is this your first date?

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[Nancy Glass]

Yeah, the bird looks out of your league.

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[Doug]

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[Andrea]

Hi, everyone, it's Andrea. I wanted to introduce you to one of my favorite people on the planet and the host of a new podcast I think you'll love. Burden of Guilt, season two. Meet my mentor, friend, boss, and the executive producer on Betrayal, Nancy Glass.

[Nancy Glass]

So excited to work with you.

[Andrea]

Me too. I love this season. It's just so exciting. And you're here to tell us about it. It's an unbelievable story that you've been reporting on. I've been working on it, but I've also been listening on the feed and I don't wanna give too much away, but I'll say this for people who don't know this story. It's about two men whose lives intersect in New Orleans. One is Bobby Gumprite, who accuses the other, Jermaine Hudson, of a violent crime. Bobby. But it's not at all what it seems at first, right?

[Nancy Glass]

That's right.

[Andrea]

What about Burden of Guilt? Season two aligns with the Betrayal audience. What do you think this season has that you think the Betrayal community would really find fascinating or enjoy?

[Nancy Glass]

That's a very good question. In my mind, the Betrayal audience is made up of people who connect emotionally with other people, people who care, and people who understand what injustice is all about.

[Andrea]

And there was a massive injustice in this story. When Jermaine Hudson was identified as the

[Nancy Glass]

perpetrator, this man was put away and lost half of his life because he was wrongfully convicted. That's one thing, but what's worse is he was convicted of a crime that never happened. He was convicted based on a fake story of a fake robbery, and he was given 99 years.

[Andrea]

It's astonishing. But the story of this crime in Louisiana doesn't end there. Eventually, all the lies come to light. And I'm curious what part of this story really surprised you.

[Nancy Glass]

The twists and turns are so strange, and the ultimate of this story is how the man, Bobby, who accused Jermaine, his life was destroyed by his choice, and then what he did to turn it around and how hard that was on every level.

[Andrea]

I think what's so interesting about this season of Burden of Guilt is this is something we actually talk a lot about. On betrayal, we don't get to report on a redemption arc for any of our offenders. I would love to be able to tell the story of a major act of contrition or amends in one of our betrayal stories, but so far, they haven't existed.

[Nancy Glass]

These bad guys, they don't apologize. They're not interested in redemption because they don't think they did anything wrong.

[Andrea]

And in Burden of Guilt season two, it's a very different story.

[Nancy Glass]

It's a really interesting story, but I think what's just as interesting is the character of these two men.

[Andrea]

I don't think we've produced a better show with CliffHangers than season two of Burden of Guilt. Every episode, you're just on the edge of your seat. And I have to say, I just love, love, love this season, and I think you guys did an incredible job.

[Nancy Glass]

Thank you, Dre.

[Andrea]

So here's a sneak peek of Burden of Guilt season two with Nancy Glass.

[Nancy Glass]

I'm Nancy Glass. I've been a journalist for decades. I've covered some of the biggest crime stories in modern times. I was on the scene of the Oklahoma bombings, attended the O.J. simpson trial, and I interviewed serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer. You might recall that on the last season of Burden of Guilt, we told the story of a remarkable woman, Tracy Raquel Burns. She was framed for the murder of her baby brother when she was just two years old. She spent decades looking for answers and finally getting justice for her baby brother and for herself. On this season of Burden of Guilt, I want to tell you another extraordinary story. When I began hearing about this story, I thought I've heard that before, that somebody's convicted of a crime they didn't commit. But I was wrong, because that's not this story. This is something different, something I hope I never hear again. This case has stolen lives, destroyed families, challenged legal systems, and in the. And it left everyone transformed. Maybe even redeemed.

[Pastor Jermaine Tezeno]

Let's not stop giving praise now. Amen.

[Nancy Glass]

We're at True Light Baptist Church in Eunice. It's a small town in the southern part of Louisiana known as the Prairie Cajun Capital. Every Sunday for 125 years, the congregation has met here in the same building.

[Pastor Jermaine Tezeno]

Money, yes, sir, can buy your clock, but he can't buy your time. A true pastor will care for his congregation. The pastor responsibility is to shepherd the flock.

[Nancy Glass]

That's Pastor Jermaine Tezeno. He's been leading the congregation at true light for 30 years. It's the kind of church where everyone knows everyone.

[Pastor Jermaine Tezeno]

Amen.

[Nancy Glass]

Which is why Pastor Tezeno remembers this one Sunday so clearly. It was in March of 2021. When he looked up from the pulpit, he saw a stranger sitting alone in the back pew.

[Pastor Jermaine Tezeno]

I noticed somebody in the congregation sitting, and in my mind I'm thinking, okay, who invited you? He didn't have the best clothes on. You could tell he was on the street. I would say he looked broken.

[Nancy Glass]

He was broken. But it would be years before the pastor understood why or what had compelled this man to walk into his church that day. Pastor Tezeno eyed him closely.

[Pastor Jermaine Tezeno]

You are Caucasian and you are in the majority African American church. Like, what's your intentions?

[Nancy Glass]

Pastor Tesano's thoughts jumped to the church shooting at Mother Emanuel AME Church in Charleston. In that case, a 21 year old white man had been welcomed into Bible study only to later murder nine black parishioners hoping to spark a race war.

[Pastor Jermaine Tezeno]

And my thinking was like, it's not going to be dead here. I will die for my sheep.

[Nancy Glass]

Pastor Tesano finished his sermon, keeping an eye on this man in the back row. And when the service was over, he walked up to the stranger and extended a hand.

[Pastor Jermaine Tezeno]

I just shook his hand. I said, can you meet me in. In my office?

[Nancy Glass]

The man agreed and they went into the pastor's office. Tesano asked one of his ministers, Dr. Leon Gallo, to join the conversation. Just to be safe.

[Doug]

Rightfully so, because this was definitely someone no one had ever seen.

[Nancy Glass]

Pastor Tezeno and Dr. Leon learned that the man was homeless and had spent the night before in an abandoned house. They wanted to help him. Dr. Leon stepped out of the room to start calling local shelters. The man was having a hard time making eye contact with Pastor Tezeno, so he asked the man for his name.

[Pastor Jermaine Tezeno]

He told me, Bobby Gumprite.

[Nancy Glass]

Bobby Gumpright. That was his real name, but he didn't say much else.

[Doug]

We knew that he was an addiction. We knew that he was traveling from place to place, but didn't really know a whole lot more.

[Nancy Glass]

Bobby Gumpright was actually there with a purpose.

[Pastor Jermaine Tezeno]

So he asked me the question, do you do confessions? I said, well, I'm not Catholic, but I'm like, what's on your mind?

[Nancy Glass]

He was carrying a secret. A secret so terrible, it felt like a thousand pound weight pressing down on his chest.

[Pastor Jermaine Tezeno]

He needed to make that confession.

[Nancy Glass]

After 30 years on the job, Pastor Tesano had heard a lot of stories, but what Bobby Gumprite told him left him speechless.

[Pastor Jermaine Tezeno]

I really didn't respond too much because I was in shock.

[Nancy Glass]

Pastor Tesano didn't know what to do with information like this. Bobby had just confessed to a terrible crime, a crime that had destroyed lives, including his own. The pastor would need time to make a plan, but in the meantime, he could help Bobby with his immediate needs.

[Pastor Jermaine Tezeno]

I said, you know what? Let's get you somewhere to stay overnight.

[Nancy Glass]

There wasn't room in a shelter for him that night, so Pastor Tesano and Dr. Leon picked up some essentials and paid for a hotel room at the Day's Inn. He could take a shower and get a good night's sleep.

[Pastor Jermaine Tezeno]

After we got him the hotel, we got in a circle and we prayed for him. And I told him, I'm going to check on you the next day, tomorrow. When I went back the next morning, the hotel management said he left. I was like, what?

[Nancy Glass]

When Bobby left, his secret left with him. And until this story was exposed, another man's life would hang in the balance. This is season two of Burden of Guilt, Episode one, the first confession. It's been over four years since Bobby Gumprite walked into that church. Back then, he had long, greasy hair and a full beard. Today, Bobby looks dramatically different. He looks clean cut and healthy. But the choices he made as a young man are still there, just under the surface. To understand what Bobby confessed to inside that church, we have to go back to the beginning of this story. Now, you might consider what you're about to hear to be a villain origin story. It might be a blueprint for the making of a monster. You might hear this as the story of a little boy who didn't get the love he needed. Or maybe you'll consider it to be a story of strength and redemption. Meet Bobby Gumpright.

[Bobby Gumprite]

I grew up in a military family. My dad was in the Navy. He was out to sea quite a bit when I was real young.

[Nancy Glass]

Robert Gumpright, Bobby's father, was a respected Navy captain.

[Doug]

I was working on a four aircraft ship as an electronics technician.

[Nancy Glass]

That's Captain Gumprite, Bobby's dad. In 1979, he married Debbie and Bobby was born a year later. His voice is very weak due to an earlier cancer treatment. And because of that strain, we asked a voice actor to step in from here on out and read the transcript of his interview.

[Doug]

He's my only son, and I made a choice way back when that I would never have any more children other than him. So he's always had my love and full support.

[Nancy Glass]

But his parents didn't stay together. They got divorced when Bobby was three. Captain Gumprite got full custody of his son, Bobby.

[Bobby Gumprite]

I never saw my mom again until I was in my 20s.

[Nancy Glass]

As a kid, Bobby didn't understand where his mom had gone and why she wasn't around anymore.

[Bobby Gumprite]

My dad at that point had decided that it wasn't in my best interest to see her. So I spent a big chunk of my childhood in Virginia Beach, Virginia, which is where he was stationed. Between the ages of like 3 and

[Nancy Glass]

8, Bobby was deeply wounded by his mother's absence. His father tried to fill the gap the best he could.

[Doug]

I remember when he was very young and I was running him out to the child care in the morning, and I'd say, who loves you? And he'd say, you do. And I'd say, yeah, I do. I love you. And he would give me a big hug.

[Nancy Glass]

When Bobby was six, his father remarried. His stepmother's name was Sharon.

[Bobby Gumprite]

She didn't have any other kids, so I was the only thing that she had.

[Nancy Glass]

Sharon raised Bobby. She tried to fill in the role of a mother and love him unconditionally. But when Bobby was in elementary school, something tragic happened in their home. A formative experience that would shape Bobby's worldview and influence the person he became.

[Bobby Gumprite]

Around eight years old, I was at home with a friend of mine. You know, it was the afternoon my mom, I think, was at school and my dad was at work. And this was a friend of mine, Joey. We were just playing after school. We played baseball together and he was just in the same neighborhood. And one day he was at my house and we. We got into my dad's room and found a gun and pulled the gun out and started running around the house with it. Got downstairs. We had a living room downstairs and a sliding glass door that went out to the back porch. And he went outside and shut the door. And I was standing on the inside of the door, the glass door, and I was kind of holding the gun, like pretending he was the robber and I was the cop. And I jumped out. And as soon as I jumped out, I don't know if I pulled the trigger or my finger slipped. I didn't know it was loaded, but either way, the gun went off and shattered the door and he was on the ground.

[Nancy Glass]

Thanks so much for listening. Now you can binge the entire series and hear the whole story. Listen to season two, A Burden of Guilt, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Nancy Glass]

Hey, everyone, Check out this guy and his bird.

[Doug]

What is this, your first date?

[Liberty Mutual Spokesperson]

Oh, no. We help people customize and save on car insurance with Liberty Mutual together. We're married. Me to a human, him to a bird.

[Nancy Glass]

Yeah, the bird looks out of your league.

[Liberty Mutual Spokesperson]

Anyways, get a [e-mail] or with your local agent.

[Doug]

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[Andrea]

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