Inside Burden of Guilt S2 | BONUS

Summary

Betrayal Weekly — Inside Burden of Guilt S2 | BONUS

Host: Andrea Gunning
Guest: Nancy Glass (Executive Producer, Host of Burden of Guilt)
Release Date: April 30, 2026

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Episode Overview

This special bonus episode of Betrayal Weekly features Andrea Gunning in conversation with Nancy Glass, executive producer and host of the acclaimed series Burden of Guilt. The pair discuss the gripping second season, which centers on a shocking miscarriage of justice in New Orleans involving two men—Bobby Gumprite and Jermaine Hudson. The season explores not only the devastating impact of a false accusation and wrongful conviction, but also a rare and remarkable journey toward redemption. The episode includes a sneak peek of Burden of Guilt Season 2, setting the stage for listeners to follow this profound story of broken trust, resilience, and the enduring pursuit of healing.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Introducing Nancy Glass and Season 2’s Premise

• Andrea welcomes Nancy Glass and introduces her as mentor, friend, and executive producer.
  (02:36)
• Andrea previews Season 2: “Two men whose lives intersect in New Orleans. One is Bobby Gumprite, who accuses the other, Jermaine Hudson, of a violent crime. But it’s not at all what it seems at first, right?”
  (02:57)
• Nancy confirms: “That’s right.”
  (03:29)

2. Resonance with the Betrayal Audience

• Andrea asks what makes Burden of Guilt Season 2 compelling for the Betrayal community.
• Nancy reflects:

  “In my mind, the Betrayal audience is made up of people who connect emotionally with other people, people who care and people who understand what injustice is all about.”
  (03:44 – Nancy Glass)

• The story involves a major injustice: Jermaine Hudson was wrongfully convicted of a crime that, as it turns out, never happened.

  “He was convicted based on a fake story of a fake robbery, and he was given 99 years.”
  (04:08 – Nancy Glass)

3. The Depths of Betrayal and Redemption

• Andrea highlights how betrayal and a lack of redemption recur in the stories they cover:

  “We don’t get to report on a redemption arc for any of our offenders … they haven’t existed.”
  (05:09 – Andrea)

• Nancy responds:

  “These bad guys, they don’t apologize. They’re not interested in redemption because they don’t think they did anything wrong.”
  (05:34)

• Yet, Burden of Guilt Season 2 stands apart:

  “It’s a very different story.”
  (05:41 – Andrea)

4. Uniquely Human Elements and Edge-Of-Your-Seat Storytelling

• The hosts praise the season’s tension and character focus:

  “I don’t think we’ve produced a better show with cliffhangers than season two… Every episode, you’re just on the edge of your seat.”
  (05:53 – Andrea)

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Sneak Peek: The Story Unfolds

5. Nancy Glass Sets the Stage

• Nancy recounts her journalistic background (Oklahoma bombing, O.J. trial, Jeffrey Dahmer interviews) to give context to why this story stood out.
  (06:21)
• She clarifies the story is not a typical wrongful conviction case:

  “This is something different, something I hope I never hear again. This case has stolen lives, destroyed families, challenged legal systems, and in the end, it left everyone transformed, maybe even redeemed.”
  (07:09 – Nancy Glass)

6. A Confession in a Small Town Louisiana Church

• Setting: True Light Baptist Church, Eunice, Louisiana
• Pastor Jermaine Tezeno recounts the day he noticed a stranger in his congregation. He recalls:

  “I noticed somebody in the congregation sitting, and in my mind I’m thinking, okay, who invited you?... I would say he looked broken.”
  (09:00 – Pastor Tezeno)

• Pastor Tezeno was wary, referencing the tragic Charleston church shooting:

  “My thinking was like, it’s not going to be dead here. I will die for my sheep.”
  (10:14 – Pastor Tezeno)

• After service, the pastor invites the man—Bobby Gumprite—into his office for a conversation.
• The man asks if the pastor does confessions.

  “He needed to make that confession…”
  (12:09 – Pastor Tezeno)

• Bobby confesses to a secret so heavy, the pastor is left speechless.

  “I really didn’t respond too much because I was in shock.”
  (12:26 – Pastor Tezeno)

• The church helps Bobby with immediate needs, paying for a hotel room. By morning, Bobby has disappeared and his secret remains hidden, leaving another man’s fate in limbo.
  (13:09 – Pastor Tezeno; 13:36 – Nancy Glass)

7. Who Is Bobby Gumprite? A Glimpse into the Past

• Nancy introduces Bobby’s troubled upbringing:

  “Now, you might consider what you’re about to hear to be a villain origin story… Or maybe you’ll consider it to be a story of strength and redemption.”
  (14:00 – Nancy Glass)

• Audio recreation (due to his father’s health): Bobby grows up in a military family, is raised by his father after divorce, estranged from his mother.

  “I never saw my mom again until I was in my 20s.”
  (16:11 – Bobby/Voice Actor)

• His father tries to fill the void:

  “I remember when he was very young…I’d say, who loves you? And he’d say, you do…And he would give me a big hug.”
  (16:53 – Captain Robert Gumprite)

• A childhood tragedy involving a gun accident foreshadows the troubled path ahead:

  “Got downstairs…as soon as I jumped out, I don’t know if I pulled the trigger or my finger slipped…either way, the gun went off and shattered the door and he (my friend) was on the ground.”
  (17:46 – Bobby/Voice Actor)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On injustice and empathy:

  “People who connect emotionally with other people, people who care, and people who understand what injustice is all about.”
  (Nancy Glass, 03:44)

• On the scale of wrongful conviction:

  “He was convicted based on a fake story of a fake robbery, and he was given 99 years.”
  (Nancy Glass, 04:08)

• On redemption arcs:

  “These bad guys, they don’t apologize…they don’t think they did anything wrong.”
  (Nancy Glass, 05:34)

• Pastor’s empathy and vigilance:

  “You are Caucasian and you are in the majority African American church…Like, what’s your intentions?”
  (Pastor Jermaine Tezeno, 09:39)

  “My thinking was like, it’s not going to be dead here. I will die for my sheep.”
  (Pastor Jermaine Tezeno, 10:14)

• On sudden confessions:

  “He needed to make that confession…After 30 years on the job…what Bobby Gumprite told him left him speechless.”
  (Pastor Jermaine Tezeno & Nancy Glass, 12:09–12:26)

• On burden and brokenness:

  “He was carrying a secret. A secret so terrible it felt like a thousand pound weight pressing down on his chest.”
  (Nancy Glass, 11:59)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Andrea introduces Nancy Glass and the story premise: 02:36–03:29
• Nancy on the Betrayal audience & injustice theme: 03:44–04:08
• Wrongful conviction & the layers of betrayal: 04:08–05:41
• Season’s edge-of-seat storytelling: 05:53
• Nancy’s journalistic context & setup: 06:21–07:40
• The church confession—Pastor’s perspective: 07:40–13:36
• Bobby’s background and formative trauma: 14:00–19:08

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Overall Tone and Voice

The episode balances the intense emotional gravity of wrongful convictions and confession with measured, empathetic reflection. Nancy Glass and Andrea maintain a tone of integrity and curiosity, blending the personal with the journalistic. The sneak peek audio adopts a narrative, cinematic style, immersing listeners in the perspectives of those whose lives were upended by the crime and its aftermath.

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Takeaway

Inside Burden of Guilt S2 gives Betrayal Weekly listeners a firsthand look at how one act of deception reverberates through multiple lives—and how, against the odds, a path toward redemption can sometimes emerge from devastation. It’s a story of truths coming to light, the enduring weight of guilt, and the possibility for healing in the aftermath of betrayal.

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To hear the full saga, binge Burden of Guilt Season 2—available now.

Transcript

[Andrea]

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[Andrea]

Hi, everyone, it's Andrea. I wanted to introduce you to one of my favorite people on the planet and the host of a new podcast I think you'll love. Burden of Guilt, season two. Meet my mentor, friend, boss, and the executive producer on Betrayal, Nancy Glass.

[Nancy Glass]

So excited to work with you.

[Andrea]

Me too. I love this season. It's just so exciting. And you're here to tell us about it. It's an unbelievable story that you've been reporting on. I've been working on it, but I've also been listening on the feed and I don't wanna give too much away, but I'll say this for people who don't know this story. It's about two men whose lives intersect in New Orleans. One is Bobby Gumprite, who accuses the other, Jermaine Hudson, of a violent crime. But it's not at all what it seems at first, right?

[Nancy Glass]

That's right.

[Andrea]

What about Burden of Guilt? Season two aligns with the Betrayal audience. What do you think this season has that you think the betrayal community would really find fascinating or enjoy?

[Nancy Glass]

That's a very good question. In my mind, the Betrayal audience is made up of people who connect emotionally with other people, people who care, and people who understand what injustice is all about.

[Andrea]

And there was a massive injustice in this story when Jermaine Hudson was identified as the perpetrator.

[Nancy Glass]

This man was put away and lost half of his life because he was wrongfully convicted. That's one thing. But what's worse is he was convicted of a crime that never happened. He was convicted based on a fake story of a fake robbery, and he was given 99 years.

[Andrea]

It's astonishing. But the story of this crime in Louisiana doesn't end there. Eventually, all the lies come to light. And I'm curious what part of this story really surprised you.

[Nancy Glass]

The twists and turns are so strange. And the ultimate of this story is how the man, Bobby, who accused Jermaine, his life was destroyed by his choice, and then what he did to turn it around and how hard that was on every level.

[Andrea]

I think what's so interesting about this season of Burden of Guilt is this is something we actually talk a lot about on the trial. We don't get to report on a redemption arc for any of our offenders. I would love to be able to tell the story of a major act of contrition or amends in one of our betrayal stories. But so far, they haven't existed.

[Nancy Glass]

These bad guys, they don't apologize. They're not interested in redemption because they don't think they did anything wrong.

[Andrea]

And in Burden of Guilt season two, it's a very different story.

[Nancy Glass]

It's a really interesting story, but I think what's just as interesting is the character of these two men.

[Andrea]

I don't think we've produced a better show with CliffHangers than season two of Burden of Guilt. Every episode, you're just on the edge of your seat. And I have to say, I just love, love, love this season, and I think you guys did an incredible job.

[Nancy Glass]

Thank you, Dre.

[Andrea]

So here's a sneak peek of Burden of Guilt season two with Nancy Glass.

[Nancy Glass]

I'm Nancy Glass. I've been a journalist for decades. I've covered some of the biggest crime stories in modern times. I was on the scene of the Oklahoma bombings, attended the O.J. simpson trial, and I interviewed serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer. You might recall that on the last season of Burden of Guilt, we told the story of a remarkable woman, Tracy Raquel Burns. She was framed for the murder of her baby brother when she was just two years old. She spent decades looking for answers and finally getting justice for her baby brother and for herself. On this season of Burden of Guilt, I want to tell you another extraordinary story. When I began hearing about this story, I thought I've heard that before, that somebody's convicted of a crime they didn't commit. But I was wrong, because that's not this story. This is something different, something I hope I never hear again. This case has stolen lives, destroyed families, challenged legal systems, and in the. And it left everyone transformed, maybe even redeemed.

[Pastor Jermaine Tesano]

Let's not stop giving praise now. Amen.

[Nancy Glass]

We're at True Light Baptist Church in Eunice. It's a small town in the southern part of Louisiana known as the Prairie Cajun Capital. Every Sunday for 125 years, the congregation has met here in the same building.

[Pastor Jermaine Tesano]

Money? Yes, sir, can buy your clock, but he can't buy your time. A true pastor will care for his congregation. The pastor responsibility is to shepherd the flock.

[Nancy Glass]

That's Pastor Jermaine Tezeno. He's been leading the congregation at true light for 30 years. It's the kind of church where everyone knows everyone.

[Pastor Jermaine Tesano]

Amen.

[Nancy Glass]

Which is why Pastor Tesano remembers this one Sunday so clearly. It was in March of 2021 when he looked up from the pulpit he saw a stranger sitting alone in the back pew.

[Pastor Jermaine Tesano]

I noticed somebody in the congregation sitting, and in my mind I'm thinking, okay, who invited you? He didn't have the best clothes on. You could tell he was on the street. I would say he looked broken.

[Nancy Glass]

He was broken. But it would be years before the pastor understood why or what had compelled this man to walk into his church that day. Pastor Tezeno eyed him closely.

[Pastor Jermaine Tesano]

You are Caucasian and you are in the majority African American church. Like, what's your intentions?

[Nancy Glass]

Pastor Tesano's thoughts jumped to the church shooting at Mother Emanuel AME Church in Charleston. In that case, a 21 year old white man had been welcomed into Bible study only to later murder nine black parishioners hoping to spark a race war.

[Pastor Jermaine Tesano]

And my thinking was like, it's not going to be dead here. I will die for my sheep.

[Nancy Glass]

Pastor Tesano finished his sermon, keeping an eye on this man in the back row. And when the service was over, he walked up to the stranger and extended a hand.

[Pastor Jermaine Tesano]

I just shook his hand. I said, can you meet me in my office?

[Nancy Glass]

The man agreed, and they went into the pastor's office. Tesano asked one of his ministers, Dr. Leon Gallo, to join the conversation. Just to be safe, rightfully so, because

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this was definitely someone no one had ever seen.

[Nancy Glass]

Pastor Tesano and Dr. Leon learned that the man was homeless and had spent the night before in an abandoned house. They wanted to help him. Dr. Leon stepped out of the room to start calling local shelters. The man was having a hard time making eye contact with Pastor Tezeno, so he asked the man for his name.

[Pastor Jermaine Tesano]

He told me Bobby Gumprite.

[Nancy Glass]

Bobby Gumpright. That was his real name. But he didn't say much else.

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We knew that he was an addiction. We knew that he was traveling from place to place, but didn't really know a whole lot more.

[Nancy Glass]

Bobby Gumprite was actually there with a purpose.

[Pastor Jermaine Tesano]

So he asked me the question, do you do confessions? I said, well, I'm not Catholic, but I'm like, what's on your mind?

[Nancy Glass]

He was carrying a secret. A secret so terrible it felt like a thousand pound weight pressing down on his chest.

[Pastor Jermaine Tesano]

He needed to make that confession

[Nancy Glass]

after 30 years on the job. Pastor Tesno had heard a lot of stories, but what Bobby Gumprite told him left him speechless.

[Pastor Jermaine Tesano]

I really didn't respond too much because I was in shock.

[Nancy Glass]

Pastor Tesano didn't know what to do with information like this. Bobby had just confessed to a terrible crime, a crime that had destroyed lives, including his own. The pastor would need time to make a plan, but in the meantime, he could help Bobby with his immediate needs.

[Pastor Jermaine Tesano]

I said, you know what? Let's get you somewhere to stay overnight.

[Nancy Glass]

There wasn't room in a shelter for him that night, so Pastor Tesano and Dr. Leon picked up some essentials and paid for a hotel room at the Day's Inn. He could take a shower and get a good night's sleep.

[Pastor Jermaine Tesano]

After we got him the hotel, we got in a circle and we prayed for him. And I told him, I'm going to check on you the next day, tomorrow. When I went back the next morning, the hotel management said he left. I was like, what?

[Nancy Glass]

When Bobby left, his secret left with him. And until this story was exposed, another man's life would hang in the balance. This is season two of Burden of Guilt. Episode one the first confession. It's been over four years since Bobby Gumprite walked into that church. Back then, he had long, greasy hair and a full beard. Today, Bobby looks dramatically different. He looks clean cut and healthy. But the choices he made as a young man are still there, just under the surface. To understand what Bobby confessed to inside that church, we have to go back to the beginning of this story. Now, you might consider what you're about to hear to be a villain origin story. It might be a blueprint for the making of a monster. You might hear this as the story of a little boy who didn't get the love he needed. Or maybe you'll consider it to be a story of strength and redemption. Meet Bobby Gumpright.

[Narrator/Voice Actor]

I grew up in a military family. My dad was in the Navy. He was out to sea quite a bit when I was real young.

[Nancy Glass]

Robert Gumprite, Bobby's father, was a respected Navy captain.

[Captain Robert Gumprite]

I was working on a four aircraft ship as an electronics technician.

[Nancy Glass]

That's Captain Gumprite, Bobby's dad. In 1979, he married Debbie, and Bobby was born a year later. His voice is very weak due to an earlier cancer treatment. And because of that strain, we asked a voice actor to step in from here on out and read the transcript of his interview.

[Captain Robert Gumprite]

He's my only son, and I made a choice way back when that I would never have any more children other than him. So he's always had my love and full support.

[Nancy Glass]

But his parents didn't stay together. They got divorced when Bobby was three. Captain Gumpright got full custody of his son, Bobby.

[Narrator/Voice Actor]

I never saw my mom again until I was in my 20s.

[Nancy Glass]

As a kid, Bobby didn't understand where his mom had gone and why she wasn't around anymore.

[Narrator/Voice Actor]

My dad, at that point, had decided that it wasn't in my best interest to see her. So I spent a big chunk of my childhood in Virginia Beach, Virginia, which is where he was stationed. Between the ages of, like, three and

[Nancy Glass]

eight, Bobby was deeply wounded by his mother's absence. His father tried to fill the gap the best he could.

[Captain Robert Gumprite]

I remember when he was very young and I was running him out to the child care in the morning, and I'd say, who loves you? And he'd say, you do. And I'd say, yeah, I do. I love you. And he would give me a big hug.

[Nancy Glass]

When Bobby was six, his father remarried. His stepmother's name was Sharon.

[Narrator/Voice Actor]

She didn't have any other kids, so I was the only thing that she had.

[Nancy Glass]

Sharon raised Bobby. She tried to fill in the role of a mother and love him unconditionally. But when Bobby was in elementary school, something tragic happened in their home. A formative experience that would shape Bobby's worldview and influence the person he became.

[Narrator/Voice Actor]

Around eight years old, I was at home with a friend of mine. You know, it was the afternoon my mom, I think, was at school, and my dad was at work. And this was a friend of mine, Joey. We were just playing after school. We played baseball together, and he was just in the same neighborhood. And one day he was at my house, and we got into my dad's room and found a gun and pulled the gun out and started running around the house with it. Got downstairs. We had a living room downstairs and a sliding glass door that went out to the back porch. And he went outside and shut the door. And I was standing on the inside of the door, the glass door, and I was kind of holding the gun, like, pretending he was the robber and I was the cop. And I jumped out. And as soon as I jumped out, I don't know if I pulled the trigger or my finger slipped. I didn't know it was loaded, but either way, the gun went off and shattered the door and he was on the ground.

[Nancy Glass]

Thanks so much for listening. Now you can binge the entire series and hear the whole story. Listen to season two, A Burden of Guilt, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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