Betrayal Weekly | Brook

Summary

Podcast Summary: Betrayal Weekly | Brooke

Podcast: Betrayal: Seasons 1, 2, 3 & 4
Host: Andrea Gunning (iHeartPodcasts and Glass Podcasts)
Episode: Betrayal Weekly | Brooke
Date: September 19, 2025

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Overview

In this deeply personal episode of Betrayal Weekly, ICU nurse Brooke Fisk shares her harrowing story of trust, love, and a nearly fatal betrayal by someone she once considered her partner and confidant. After a divorce and journey toward independence, Brooke fell in love with Sikander "Sick" Imran, a medical resident. Their relationship unexpectedly led to pregnancy—and then to a shocking act of violence when Sick, unable to reconcile his cultural expectations with Brooke's pregnancy, secretly attempted to induce an abortion with misoprostol, putting both Brooke and her child's lives at risk. Through candid storytelling, Brooke recounts the emotional aftermath, the criminal proceedings, and her hard-earned path to healing.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Brooke’s Journey to Independence and Love

• Divorce and Self-Discovery:

  • Brooke reflects on the end of her 11-year marriage and her conscious effort to regain her independence.
  • “It was very shocking to me what little independence I had so, so easily fallen into. And I didn’t want to be like that.” (04:22, Brooke Fisk)

• A New Relationship:

  • Hesitant to date seriously, Brooke eventually falls for Sick, a medical resident, after months of friendship and clear boundaries.
  • Brooke’s anecdotal moment: “He shot Brooke a smile, which, you know, was funny and flirtatious and maybe a little inappropriate at the time, but, yeah, that was the first time I remember meeting him.” (07:14, Brooke Fisk)

2. Managing Boundaries Amid Cultural Differences

• Brooke’s Reluctance:

  • She was initially firm on not dating doctors due to the nurse-doctor stereotype.
  • Integration into each other’s families was gradual, complicated by Sick’s cultural background and expectations of marrying within his culture.

• Future at an Impasse:

  • As Sick completes his residency and faces pressure to settle down, the couple agrees that Brooke won’t move for him and that marriage is off the table.

3. Breaking Point: The Decision to End the Relationship

• Sick’s Arranged Marriage:
  • After a final romantic trip, Sick discloses to Brooke that he’s agreed to an arranged marriage.
  • “He seemed resigned to it. He seemed sad about it. He talked about it like he was going to get a girl who wanted to marry a doctor.” (25:31, Brooke Fisk)
  • Brooke ends communication, recognizing the inevitability of their separation.

4. Unexpected Pregnancy and Sick’s Descent

• Discovering Pregnancy:

  • Brooke learns she is pregnant shortly after their breakup and debates whether to tell Sick.
  • Ultimately decides: “Is it fair of me to not give him that choice and that opportunity to take part in his child’s life?... I decided to tell him because I thought that it was the right thing to do.” (28:11, Brooke Fisk)

• Sick’s Reaction:

  • He immediately urges her to have an abortion and, when Brooke refuses, repeatedly pressures her through calls and texts.
  • “That started months of phone calls and text messages begging and pleading with me to have an abortion... telling me I was ruining his life.” (29:38, Brooke Fisk)

5. The Poisoning Attempt

• A Suspicious Visit:
  • After initial hostility, Sick later invites Brooke to D.C. to set up a parenting plan.
  • During the visit, Brooke senses abnormal behavior, culminating in a sweet, gritty tea that she suspects contains ground pills.
  • “I spit it back in the cup, and I put the cup down, and I said that I had to go to the bathroom... I wasn’t sure what to do.” (36:36, Brooke Fisk)
  • Brooke collects evidence, plans to escape, but before she can leave, goes into labor from heavy bleeding.

6. Medical Emergency and Revelation

• Hospitalization and Confrontation:
  • Despite Brooke begging Sick to call 911, he refuses, insisting he can handle it as a doctor.
  • Finally, when Brooke reveals, “Your son is dying,” he calls for help (46:23).
  • At the hospital, Brooke discreetly tells staff her suspicion and provides the cup fragments for testing (48:32).
  • After her son, Kai, is stillborn, Brooke confronts Sick. He confesses to administering misoprostol with the justification:
    • “He said it like he thought that he was doing something benevolent for me, but he wasn’t. He was taking from me somebody that I loved, somebody that I wanted in my life.” (54:59, Brooke Fisk)
  • Police arrive and arrest Sick, who confesses again under questioning.

7. Aftermath: Healing, Accountability, and Resilience

• Family and Emotional Fallout:

  • Brooke struggles with guilt and heartbreak, especially when she tells her children their new sibling was killed.
  • “I went down to D.C. thinking that I was making a parenting plan. And I came back missing my baby...” (59:31, Brooke Fisk)

• Legal Process:

  • Sick pleads guilty after Brooke goes public with her story.
  • Facing up to life in prison, Brooke requests leniency in sentencing out of a sense of mercy.
    • “I really think that rather than wasting the rest of his life sitting in prison, Sick owes it to Kai to do something with his life.” (63:32, Brooke Fisk)
    • Ultimately, Sick serves four years and is deported.

• Moving Forward:

  • Brooke channels her pain into personal growth—completing a master’s degree, teaching, and practicing jiu-jitsu.
  • She and her kids memorialize Kai with a gravestone reading “superheroes never sleep.” (65:46, Brooke Fisk)

8. Powerful Reflections on Survival and Strength

• Brooke’s Closing Words:
  • “No matter what happens, no matter what you go through, you get stronger and you learn to carry it... If I could make it through that, people can make it through anything. They really can.” (66:20, Brooke Fisk)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Brooke’s realization post-divorce:

  • “It was very shocking to me what little independence I had so, so easily fallen into. And I didn’t want to be like that.” (04:22)

• On the beginning of her relationship with Sick:

  • “We really developed kind of a friendship, first kind of relationship. So we would spend a lot of time watching movies, going to movies. I taught him how to cook rice American style.” (08:51)

• After learning of the arranged marriage:

  • “Even though part of me felt like he was still mine, he really wasn’t mine anymore.” (25:47)

• Sick’s attempt at rationalization:

  • “He said the reason... he knew that if I made the decision to have an abortion, I would be unhappy... so he was making the decision for me so I wouldn’t have to live with it.” (54:59)

• Brooke’s reflection on betrayal:

  • “Because either I loved a monster and never knew he was a monster, or I loved a man and then he became a monster. One of those is true.” (61:51)

• On survival and resilience:

  • “I look back and I think, wow, I made it through that. If I could make it through that, people can make it through anything. They really can.” (66:20)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Brooke’s journey to independence after divorce – 04:22–05:20
• Meeting and resisting Sick’s advances – 06:26–07:36
• Getting serious, traveling, integrating families – 12:19–16:27
• The crossroads: residency, distance, and break-up – 17:06–18:50
• Discovering pregnancy, Sick’s escalating pressure – 27:18–31:37
• Brooke’s D.C. visit and poisoning attempt – 32:09–40:00
• Medical crisis and hospital intervention – 41:53–50:07
• Confrontation, Sick’s confession, and arrest – 54:46
• Legal outcome and reflections – 62:57–66:20

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Conclusion

Brooke Fisk’s story is a testament to how trust can be shattered in the most unimaginable ways, even by those closest to us. Her courage in sharing the details—the emotions, the aftermath, and the slow process of recovery—offers not just a riveting true-crime account but a message of strength, resilience, and hope for others surviving their own betrayals.

Transcript

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[Liz (Hands Tied Podcast Narrator)]

Liz went from being interested in true crime to living true crime.

[Brooke Fisk]

My husband said your dad's been killed.

[Liz (Hands Tied Podcast Narrator)]

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[Brooke Fisk]

I was just completely in shock.

[Liz (Hands Tied Podcast Narrator)]

Liz's father murdered and her mother found locked in a closet, her hands and feet bound.

[Brooke Fisk]

I didn't feel real at all.

[Liz (Hands Tied Podcast Narrator)]

More than a decade on, she's still searching for answers.

[Brooke Fisk]

We're still fighting.

[Liz (Hands Tied Podcast Narrator)]

Listen to Hands tied on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Andrea Gunning (Betrayal Host)]

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[Brooke Fisk]

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[Andrea Gunning]

Submit, but I didn't fully grasp for.

[Brooke Fisk]

The rest of my life what that meant for my Heart Podcasts and Rokoko Punch.

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[Brooke Fisk]

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[Andrea Gunning]

Hi everyone, it's Andrea. If you found us through the Hulu documentary, welcome to the Betrayal Podcast. On this feed you can listen back to all four seasons of the show including season three. Still Stacey and Tyler Story Right now our team is busy working on season five which launches in January of 2026. But in the meantime we are bringing you new stories every Thursday On Betrayal Weekly. Each episode is told directly by the person who lived through it, and these stories are powerful. Today, we wanted to share one of our recent weekly episodes. If you like what you hear, just search for Betrayal Weekly in your podcast app and hit subscribe. This is Brooke's story.

[Brooke Fisk]

I went down to D.C. thinking that I was making a parenting plan. And I came back with business cards for investigators and victims assistance, phone numbers in my luggage, doubting who I knew for the last five years.

[Andrea Gunning]

I'm Andrea Gunning, and this is Betrayal, a show about the people we trust the most and the deceptions that change everything. Betrayal Weekly is officially back for season two.

[Andrea Gunning (Betrayal Host)]

Whether you've been with us from the.

[Andrea Gunning]

Beginning or you're just tuning in, welcome. This season we're bringing you some of our most riveting, emotional, and unforgettable stories yet, starting with this one.

[Brooke Fisk]

So I had been married for 11 years. It was very shocking to me what little independence I had so, so easily fallen into. And I didn't want to be like that.

[Andrea Gunning]

That's Brooke Fisk. She's an ICU nurse from upstate New York. When she was 32, she divorced her first husband and started over.

[Brooke Fisk]

The first couple of months were scary and lonely. You know, I would come home from work and the house would be empty because the kids would be at their dad's and it would be quiet and I would sit down in the kitchen and look around and not know what to do with myself.

[Andrea Gunning]

Brooke was a newly single mother of two, sharing custody with her ex. This transition made her painfully aware of how much she sacrificed in her marriage. She wanted to rebuild a life where she was in control.

[Brooke Fisk]

So when I got divorced, really, my focus for that first year was to become independent and maintain my independence, and I really thrived at that.

[Andrea Gunning]

She bought a small house and fixed it up on her own.

[Brooke Fisk]

I would watch YouTube videos on how to fix things and how to maintain things, and it was very empowering figuring out how to do that stuff.

[Andrea Gunning]

When she started dating again, she was careful. Her kids had already been through enough change.

[Brooke Fisk]

I was on dating apps and I would meet people and go on dates and have a lot of fun with that. But whenever it got to the point of somebody wanting to get serious, I think that it would scare me and I would back right off.

[Andrea Gunning]

She didn't want a boyfriend and she definitely didn't want to get married again. If she was looking for anything, it was just someone to go on dates with. Her life was busy enough with her two kids and a demanding job.

[Brooke Fisk]

In the icu, I worked nights, and it was an incredible experience. I loved working in the icu. I loved being able to really impact people's lives.

[Andrea Gunning]

That's where she met a medical resident.

[Brooke Fisk]

So his full name was Sikander Imran, but I called him Sikh. A lot of his friends called him Sick.

[Andrea Gunning]

One day she was called into a room with Sick and another doctor.

[Brooke Fisk]

They were talking about the patient's heart rate, and he said, well, his heart rate's up now. It must be because this nurse is in his room.

[Andrea Gunning]

He was talking about Brooke. He shot Brooke a smile, which, you.

[Brooke Fisk]

Know, was funny and flirtatious and maybe a little inappropriate at the time, but, yeah, that was the first time I remember meeting him.

[Andrea Gunning]

A few weeks later, Brooke was working the night shift with Sick when he asked her to help with a patient. And once the patient fell asleep, Brooke and Sick got to chatting.

[Brooke Fisk]

At the end of our conversation, Brooke, he asked me if I would like to go out with him. And I said that I don't date doctors. He said, ever. And I said, no, I don't date doctors. I have a rule against it. And he said, well, let me know if you change your mind. And after he left the room, the patient who I thought was sleeping opened her eyes and she pointed at me. She had a trach, so she couldn't talk, but she mouthed the words, that man is for you. And I laughed and I said, no, he's not. And she said, yes, he is.

[Andrea Gunning]

Brooke didn't like the stereotype about doctors and nurses hooking up.

[Brooke Fisk]

You know, the nurse and the doctor sneak off into a supply closet because that's what's depicted on Grey's Anatomy.

[Andrea Gunning]

That's why she had the rule, no dating doctors. But after a few weeks of flirtation, he won her over. She took his number and decided that just this once, she could break her rule. They started with an ice cream date, then long walks and dinners at his apartment.

[Brooke Fisk]

We really developed kind of a friendship, first kind of relationship. So we would spend a lot of time watching movies, going to movies. I taught him how to cook rice American style. I don't think either of us realized at the time how much closer we were getting while we were doing those casual things. So that fall, we went out a couple of times, and we started talking about, you know, where he came from, what my background was. And I knew that he had come for residency from Pakistan.

[Andrea Gunning]

He came from a family of doctors. In fact, his dad had owned a hospital in Pakistan. Like his older brother, Sikh, wanted to stay in the US and practice medicine here.

[Brooke Fisk]

Where he grew up, men and women didn't do public displays of affection. And I remember the first time that he held my hand in public. He was so awkward about it, and I was like, what are you doing? Are you holding my hand in public? You know, kind of joking with him? And he was like, yeah, I am. But he was so nervous about it.

[Andrea Gunning]

There was a real connection between them. But that didn't change Brooke's feelings about commitment.

[Brooke Fisk]

I was honest with him that I really wasn't looking for any kind of a relationship, that, you know, I have kids at home, and they're my first priority. He knew that I would only go out with him when my kids were with their dad, and he was accepting of that. He also said that he wasn't looking to get into a relationship or get married either.

[Andrea Gunning]

Regardless of what he said, Brooke could tell he was trying.

[Brooke Fisk]

He would always pay attention and notice details. He would notice how I took my coffee and make an effort to prepare it for me. That way, he knew which ice cream flavors I liked at which dessert restaurants. He was logical and thoughtful and funny and caring.

[Andrea Gunning]

After six months of dating, they realized that what was happening here was more than just a casual fling.

[Brooke Fisk]

It was probably late the next spring that he looked at me and he said, do you consider me your boyfriend? And I hadn't even thought about it. And I said, well, yeah, I guess I do. Is that okay?

[Andrea Gunning]

It was definitely okay with him. Once they became official, they kept things quiet at work.

[Brooke Fisk]

A lot of our co workers knew that we were together, but it was just kind of a thing that nobody really talked about. Occasionally someone would say, oh, I saw your boyfriend. But I would say, oh, do you mean Dr. Imran? You know.

[Andrea Gunning]

Outside the hospital, they built a rhythm. When Brooke's kids were with their dad, she and sick planned romantic dinners and weekend getaways.

[Brooke Fisk]

We loved to go on trips. What we really liked to do is go to vacation spots and find the foods that they were famous for.

[Andrea Gunning]

It started with an impromptu road trip to Chicago. Sick drove with Brooke asleep in the passenger seat.

[Brooke Fisk]

And I remember him waking me up as we were kind of driving into Chicago. It was nighttime, and Chicago was lit up. A lot of the buildings had purple lights on them for some reason. And he woke me up and he said, look, I called Chicago and had them light the buildings up purple for you, because he knew that I liked purple.

[Andrea Gunning]

That weekend, they didn't have a plan. They just explored their way through the city.

[Brooke Fisk]

We found this really awesome Restaurant that had Pakistani food, and they were open all night. We went there at like one o' clock in the morning in this hole in the wall restaurant. And it was the most amazing food.

[Andrea Gunning]

Next they went to New Orleans.

[Brooke Fisk]

Even though I don't eat meat, we ate alligator. It was pretty good.

[Andrea Gunning]

Back home in New York, they weren't living together, but they were in each other's lives in real tangible ways. About two years into dating, Sick came to her with a proposition.

[Brooke Fisk]

He moved out of his apartment and into a townhouse. And he had said at one point that he thought that I would come and live with him. And I said, I can't come live with you. I have kids. And he said, well, you can just stay here when your kids aren't home. And I said, that's fine. And at that point, we had a conversation about how we really liked the life we had together, and we liked being together when we could be together, but that neither of us were really passionate about wanting to get married.

[Andrea Gunning]

Still, Brooke had been careful about boundaries from the very beginning, especially when it came to her kids.

[Brooke Fisk]

For me, there was a lot of hesitancy about introducing someone to my kids, so there was a little bit of integration, but not a lot. We all went to the movies together a couple of times, and he came over for dinner a couple of times.

[Andrea Gunning]

Her kids really took to Sick and enjoyed having him around. After that, he wanted Brooke to meet his family.

[Brooke Fisk]

His mom came to town and he asked me if I would meet her, and she invited me for lunch and tea. So I went over and we had a really nice afternoon together, and we ended up talking about love.

[Andrea Gunning]

Sick was at work, so it was just Brooke and his mom. And there was clearly a wink and a nod to the conversation because Sick hadn't been completely honest with his mom.

[Brooke Fisk]

Sick had told her that I was his friend, but she's a mom and she's not dumb, so I think she knew what was going on. She asked me what I thought about arranged marriage and if I thought it was good or if I thought love marriages were better. And we had a nice conversation about love. And she told me about meeting six dad and their marriage. I didn't get any sense of disapproval from her at all. She was very kind to me.

[Andrea Gunning]

The meeting went so well. Brooke and Sick's mom started sending letters and care packages back and forth, which made Sick a little nervous.

[Brooke Fisk]

I remember him being a little bit like, she's gonna know. She's gonna know. And I was like, I think she already knows.

[Andrea Gunning]

Brooke didn't see the big deal. But for Sick, his family expectations mattered, especially when it came to marriage.

[Brooke Fisk]

He talked about feeling like there was an expectation on him to marry a Pakistani girl and his family wouldn't accept him marrying a white girl. And I asked him, well, what if you just don't get married? Would that be okay? Would your family accept that? And he said, I think so. And I said, well, okay, let's do that then. Let's just not get married.

[Andrea Gunning]

Their agreement worked for almost four years. But when Sick's residency ended, their relationship hit a crossroads. He started applying to fellowship programs across the country.

[Brooke Fisk]

We actually went to a couple of different places. We took a little road trip around for him to look at them and interview.

[Andrea Gunning]

The program he really wanted to go to was in dc, a six hour drive from upstate New York. Brooke made it clear that relocating wasn't an option for her family.

[Brooke Fisk]

I don't think that trying to have a long distance relationship is a good idea, especially given that I have kids and he's going to be living states away. And he acknowledged that and we had a couple of conversations about it. But ultimately he decided that it was important for him to go to this program. It was a program that his brother had done. So it was kind of a family legacy.

[Andrea Gunning]

It was bittersweet. But Brooke supported Sick. If he wanted to start his career in America, this really was for the best.

[Brooke Fisk]

I was very happy for him, congratulated him. I bought him a cake and helped him start looking for places to buy down there and helped him paint it and helped him pick out furniture and decorate it. And then, you know, we kind of said goodbye after that. But of course, goodbye wasn't really goodbye. As often happens in these relationships, they.

[Andrea Gunning]

Knew they had an expiration date, but they were having a hard time letting go.

[Brooke Fisk]

I remember walking into the airport with tears streaming down my face, bawling after saying goodbye to him. And a TSA agent came up to me and she said, are you okay? I said, yeah, I just said goodbye to my boyfriend. But I'm sure she thought something was horribly wrong just from the amount that I was crying. We said a lot of goodbyes that year.

[Andrea Gunning]

This began a new era of their relationship. One where they kept finding their way back to each other weekend by weekend.

[Brooke Fisk]

We weren't in a relationship, we were not together. But what we would end up doing is anytime either one of us had like a long weekend free, or if it was one of our birthdays, we would take a little trip together.

[Andrea Gunning]

For her 37th birthday, Sick planned a trip to the Poconos.

[Brooke Fisk]

We stayed at a bed and breakfast up in the mountains, Fireplace woody, romantic getaway, just candlelit dinners and fireside chit chat every night.

[Andrea Gunning]

You know, Brooke didn't know it at the time, but what happened that weekend would affect the rest of her life. At the end of their trip, they said another tearful goodbye. It was a great time, but that whole weekend Sick had been keeping a secret. He just couldn't bring himself to tell her in person.

[Brooke Fisk]

He called me a couple of days later and he said that he wanted to talk to me and he wanted to let me know that he had talked to his mom and that he had agreed to let his mom arrange him a marriage.

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[Kindbody Podcast Narrator]

We were getting a little bit older.

[Andrea Gunning]

And it just kind of felt like.

[Brooke Fisk]

The window could be closing.

[Kindbody Podcast Narrator]

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[Brooke Fisk]

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[Kindbody Podcast Narrator]

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[Kindbody Patient]

You think you're finally like with the right people in the right hands, and then to find out again that you're just not.

[Brooke Fisk]

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[Kindbody Podcast Narrator]

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[Brooke Fisk]

Reese, we must go on a girls trip.

[Andrea Gunning]

I have to have a tequila.

[Matt Rogers and Dawn Yang (Las Culturistas Hosts)]

We must. Oh, the cure. When they run diagnostics, we can run.

[Brooke Fisk]

It on you guys.

[Matt Rogers and Dawn Yang (Las Culturistas Hosts)]

I'd be scared. Don't run the Q rating.

[Brooke Fisk]

No, I'm the Q rating.

[Matt Rogers and Dawn Yang (Las Culturistas Hosts)]

My resiliency score is down to adequate because we were on a red eye. My resiliency score, my grit. I gotta get my grit score up. Now don't think that you're gonna come on Lost Culturistas, the podcast. And we're not gonna at least bring up Big Little Lie Season 3.

[Brooke Fisk]

Whoever said orange is the new pink seriously disturbed.

[Matt Rogers and Dawn Yang (Las Culturistas Hosts)]

Listen to Las culturistas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Andrea Gunning (Betrayal Host)]

Hi everyone. I'm Andrea Gunning, host of Betrayal, and I'm excited to bring you a brand new season of Betrayal Weekly. I'm also excited to tell you that.

[Andrea Gunning]

You can now get access to all.

[Andrea Gunning (Betrayal Host)]

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[Andrea Gunning]

After a romantic getaway for Brooke's birthday, Sick called her with surprising news. He was moving forward with an arranged marriage.

[Brooke Fisk]

I was surprised because he had not been interested in an arranged marriage and hadn't expressed any interest in it.

[Andrea Gunning]

She always thought Sick wanted a love marriage. And when he broke the news, he didn't even seem excited about the idea.

[Brooke Fisk]

He seemed resigned to it. He seemed sad about it. He talked about it like he was going to get a girl who wanted to marry a doctor.

[Andrea Gunning]

Brooke tried to hide it, but she was hurt.

[Brooke Fisk]

I felt sad, but I think that part of me had been expecting it because we'd basically been trying to say goodbye for a year. So even though part of me felt like he was still mine, he really wasn't mine anymore.

[Andrea Gunning]

If he was serious about pursuing this, that meant their relationship had to be over.

[Brooke Fisk]

I told him that if that was happening, then we really needed to stop talking to each other because it wasn't fair to another woman to think that she was getting a husband and have her husband over here in the United States talking to me and going on trips with me. That's just not fair. And he agreed. And for all the times we had tried to say goodbye over the past year, I think that finally seemed to be the thing that let us stop talking to each other. After that conversation, I think we went the longest period we had ever gone without talking. It was over two weeks. Neither of us reached out. And then I realized my period was late. So I took a pregnancy test and it was positive.

[Andrea Gunning]

Brooke knew it happened during their Poconos trip.

[Brooke Fisk]

The moment I realized I was pregnant, I started thinking about the baby and who he was going to be. I really just felt like that was my baby from the minute I knew I was pregnant.

[Andrea Gunning]

It felt like a gift from the universe. She knew this would be her last baby, and it just felt right. But now she faced another decision.

[Brooke Fisk]

I wasn't sure if I should even tell him. Part of me thought if I don't tell him, he'll never know and I just have the baby and go on with my life and he can go on with his life.

[Andrea Gunning]

On the other hand, it felt wrong to keep this from him.

[Brooke Fisk]

Is it fair of me to not give him that choice and that opportunity to take part in his child's life? I knew how much I liked being a parent, and I wouldn't want to miss the opportunity to be in my child's life. So I decided to tell him because I thought that it was the right thing to do.

[Andrea Gunning]

She told him over the phone. He was quiet for a few seconds.

[Brooke Fisk]

And then his immediate reaction was to ask me to have an abortion. I told him I couldn't, and he didn't have to be involved. He didn't have to financially support the baby. He didn't have to have anything to do with the baby. I was already a single mom. I loved having kids. I'm good at raising kids. If he doesn't want to have the baby, that's fine.

[Andrea Gunning]

She went to the doctor and learned the baby was perfectly healthy. It was a little boy.

[Brooke Fisk]

I was already picking out names before I was even showing because I already knew who he was. I decided to name him Makai and call him Kai for short.

[Andrea Gunning]

But sick wasn't on the same page. After she told him, he started spiraling.

[Brooke Fisk]

That started months of phone calls and text Messages begging and pleading with me to have an abortion and telling me that I was ruining his life, that this was going to cast shame on his family in Pakistan, that his mother was going to be ridiculed and he was going to be an outcast, and that I was causing him mental anguish.

[Andrea Gunning]

She understood that having a baby outside of marriage wasn't part of his plan. But plan or not, this was happening.

[Brooke Fisk]

All of the text message and the phone calls about, you're ruining my life, you're ruining my mom's life, that all made me pretty mad.

[Andrea Gunning]

She kept waiting for Sick to come around, but every time she talked to him, he tried a new tactic.

[Brooke Fisk]

One day I was sitting on my bed and I was on the phone with Sick, and he said that he had talked to a friend of his who was an obgyn and that his friend had told him that I could take misoprostol and that it would abort the baby and that I could do it right there at six houses and it would all happen very easily and I wouldn't even need to go to the hospital or anything, and Sick could be there with me the whole time. And Sick asked if I would be willing to do that, and I said, absolutely not. No. He said that he wasn't trying to pressure me, but that we were running out of time because we could only do this in the first trimester. And my first trimester had been coming to an end, so he wanted me to do this, and I. I said no.

[Andrea Gunning]

When she started the second trimester, the conversation was over. She'd made her choice. The window for second guessing had closed. Now that it was official, Brooke shared the news with her two kids.

[Brooke Fisk]

We had a little gender reveal cake for the baby. We went shopping and bought him a bunch of clothes and some stuff for his crib.

[Andrea Gunning]

She didn't hear from Sick for a few weeks, but when he did reach out again, he'd had a change of heart.

[Brooke Fisk]

Eventually he starts talking about setting up a bank account for me and the baby. And then he asks me if I'll come down to see him so that we could figure out a parenting plan and figure out a way that we could have this baby together and him still be in D.C. and maybe in New York, but still have this baby together.

[Andrea Gunning]

Finally, the sick she knew was back.

[Andrea Gunning (Betrayal Host)]

She made plans to drive down to.

[Andrea Gunning]

D.C. right after her fourth month ultrasound appointment.

[Brooke Fisk]

The morning that I left, I went to the doctor, we did a fetal heart rate, everything looked good, and I left and set off to go down to D.C. to see him. I drove the whole way down there. He's texting me reminders to get up and walk so I don't get a blood clot, reminding me to drink water, asking me how my drive is going.

[Andrea Gunning]

When she got to six house, he gave her a long hug.

[Brooke Fisk]

Everything seemed back to normal, except for one thing. He didn't say anything about my belly. He didn't try to touch it or anything like that.

[Andrea Gunning]

When it came to the baby, he still seemed to have a wall up.

[Brooke Fisk]

He hadn't even wanted me to tell him the gender of the baby. So I knew it was a boy, but he didn't. At one point that evening, I did start to bring up the baby, the pregnancy. And he said, let's wait and talk about this tomorrow. And I said, okay. And the next morning we got up and we start making breakfast together, which we've done hundreds of times before. I'm making eggs and he's making coffee. And he's making coffee that we had gotten when we went to New Orleans. And it's this chicory root coffee, so it's a little bit stronger. So when I started drinking it, I noticed that it burned my stomach a little bit. And I kind of just thought, you know, I'm pregnant, I probably shouldn't be drinking so much coffee. I'm probably developing an ulcer, maybe I shouldn't drink this. So I didn't finish my cup of coffee. I set it aside, finished breakfast and went on about our day. Got ready, went shopping.

[Andrea Gunning]

But as soon as they got to.

[Brooke Fisk]

The mall, I was having a queasy feeling. So I ended up going into the bathroom quite a few times. At some point he asked me if I was feeling okay. And I told him no, that I had an upset stomach. His response was just, oh, okay. And that struck me in that moment as being very odd because he normally would have asked if I needed anything or gotten me a drink or had some follow up to make sure I was all right. And in that moment, I remember thinking that I wondered if he was hoping that something was wrong. And then of course, I convinced myself to put it out of my mind.

[Andrea Gunning]

As the day went on, she started to feel better, so they decided to get takeout and go back to his place.

[Brooke Fisk]

After dinner, he put on my favorite movie and said that he was gonna make me a cup of tea for my stomach. So it was dark in the room. He brought me the tea and when I tasted it, I noticed that it was unusually sweet, which was not how I took my tea. And he said that he had accidentally put in both sugar and honey, which was odd because he always remembered how I took my tea, but I drank it anyway. And when I got toward the bottom of the cup of tea, I took a sip of it, and there was grit in the bottom. And from being a nurse, I knew that texture was ground up pill. So I spit it back in the cup, and I put the cup down, and I said that I had to go to the bathroom. I went into the bathroom, and I put my finger down my throat. And then I put a toothbrush down my throat to try to make myself throw up. And I couldn't. And I sat there in the bathroom, and I wasn't sure what to do.

[Andrea Gunning]

As the minutes passed, she started doubting what she'd seen at the bottom of her cup.

[Brooke Fisk]

I've known him for years. I've been dating him for years. This man loves me. The man I know wouldn't do that. And then I remembered that conversation where he told me that his friend suggested that I take misoprostol and it would cause an abortion. And I told him no. And I just. I knew that's what he did. But then I kept going back to maybe I'm crazy. Maybe there weren't pills in my cup. He wouldn't poison me, so maybe I'm insane. But then if he did that to me, what else would he do? If I go out there and he knows I know, and he actually did it, will he kill me? If he wants to get rid of the baby so bad that he'll poison me, is he gonna kill me so I can't let him know that I know?

[Andrea Gunning]

In that moment, she came up with a plan. And before we keep going, I want to flag that what Brooke is about to describe could be emotionally triggering for some listeners. If you've had experience with pregnancy loss, please take care while listening.

[Andrea Gunning (Betrayal Host)]

Now back to Brooke.

[Andrea Gunning]

Here's what she decided to do.

[Brooke Fisk]

I'm gonna wait until he goes to sleep, and I'm gonna sneak out of the house, and I'm gonna go to the hospital. And so I sat down on the couch with him, and the movie was almost over. And I told him that I was tired and I wanted to go to bed. And so the movie ended, and he got up to take my dishes to the kitchen. And I said, I'll take them. And he said, no, I'll take them. And he pulled them out of my hands, took the dishes to the sink, and I saw him tip the cup into the sink. And then he went into the bathroom, and when he went into the bathroom, I thought, I have to know. So I turned on the kitchen light and I looked and there was pill fragments in the bottom of the cup. So I got a plastic baggie out and I scooped out the rest of the pill fragments that were in the cup and I zipped them up in the little plastic baggie and I hid him in my purse. And I thought, when he goes to sleep, I'll go to the hospital. Because now I don't so much think I'm insane. I think he probably did poison me. But now I really do need to wait until he's asleep.

[Andrea Gunning]

Now that she had seen the proof, the panic came flooding in. What had he given her? And how much of it did she drink? But she had to stay calm so she could get out and get help.

[Brooke Fisk]

So I got ready for bed and I laid down next to him and I just listened to him breathing and waited to hear his breathing change so I could hear when it got deeper so I could sneak out of bed. And while I was laying there, I felt a pop and I felt myself start bleeding. I got up and ran into the bathroom and I was bleeding and I started crying and laid down on the bathroom floor. At this point, I was almost 20 weeks along, four months pregnant. The baby was fully formed. So having this happen in his bathroom at his apartment is certainly medically dangerous for me. And he came in and he said, what's wrong? And I said, the baby's dying. You need to call 911. And he said, no, you're fine. I'm a doctor. I can take care of you.

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[Kindbody Patient]

I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now, we were getting.

[Brooke Fisk]

A little bit older and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing.

[Kindbody Podcast Narrator]

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[Brooke Fisk]

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[Kindbody Podcast Narrator]

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[Kindbody Patient]

You think you're finally, like, with the right people in the right hands, and then to find out again that you're just not.

[Brooke Fisk]

Don't be fooled by what all the bright and shiny listen to.

[Kindbody Podcast Narrator]

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[Matt Rogers and Dawn Yang (Las Culturistas Hosts)]

Hey everybody, this is Matt Rogers and Dawn Yang, and you're never gonna guess who's our guest on Las Culturistas. It is Bradley Jackson, Elle Woods, Tracy Flick herself, Reese Witherspoon.

[Brooke Fisk]

Reese, we must go on a girls trip.

[Andrea Gunning]

I have to have a tequila.

[Brooke Fisk]

We must.

[Matt Rogers and Dawn Yang (Las Culturistas Hosts)]

Oh, the Q rating. When they run diagnostic, we can run.

[Brooke Fisk]

It on you guys.

[Matt Rogers and Dawn Yang (Las Culturistas Hosts)]

I'd be scared. Don't run the Q rating.

[Brooke Fisk]

No, I'm the Q rating.

[Matt Rogers and Dawn Yang (Las Culturistas Hosts)]

My resiliency score is down to adequate because we were on a red eye. My resiliency score, my grit. I gotta get my grit score up. Now, don't think that you're gonna come on Las Culturistas, the podcast. And we're not gonna at least bring up Big Little Lies, season three.

[Brooke Fisk]

Whoever said orange is the new pink, like, seriously disturbs.

[Matt Rogers and Dawn Yang (Las Culturistas Hosts)]

Listen to Las culturistas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Andrea Gunning (Betrayal Host)]

Hi everyone. I'm Andrea Gunning, host of Betrayal, and I'm excited to bring you a brand new season of Betrayal Weekly. I'm also excited to tell you that.

[Andrea Gunning]

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[Andrea Gunning]

Brooke planned to get out of 6 house quietly and drive herself to the hospital. Before she could, she started bleeding. Four months into the pregnancy, she knew she needed to get help quickly. But when Sick found her on the floor of the bathroom, he didn't want to call an ambulance.

[Brooke Fisk]

And I said, you need to call 911. And he said, no, you're okay. I'm a doctor. You're going to be fine. I didn't know if he was refusing to call 911 because he wanted to kill me.

[Andrea Gunning]

She was terrified for herself and for her baby.

[Brooke Fisk]

Part of me was really hopeful that maybe if I could just get to a hospital somehow the baby was going to survive. So I was desperate for him to call 91 1. I said, you don't understand. Your son is dying. Your son. And if you don't call 911, then I will.

[Andrea Gunning]

She hadn't told him the sex of the baby until this moment when she called the baby his son. Something shifted for Sick.

[Brooke Fisk]

And then he said, okay, I'll call. And he went and he called 911. And then the ambulance came. And at this point, I was bleeding a lot more.

[Andrea Gunning]

The paramedics picked her up from the floor and laid her on the stretcher.

[Brooke Fisk]

As they're pushing me out of the apartment, I see my purse sitting on the counter. And I remember that the pill fragments are in a baggie in my purse. So I ask the paramedic to hand me my purse, and he says, you don't need it. And I say, no, I want my purse. And Sick picks it up, and he says, I'll take it. I have another moment of panic, thinking if the paramedic asks me for my insurance card, Sick is going to open my purse and he's going to see that baggie in there with the pills in it, and he's going to get rid of it. So they load me into the ambulance, and Sick gets into the ambulance with us. I just keep thinking if I can get this paramedic to just make eye contact with me, he'll see in my eyes that I'm afraid, and I don't want Sick here.

[Andrea Gunning]

But the paramedic was too busy triaging Brooke to notice. All the while, Six stayed right by her side, acting concerned.

[Brooke Fisk]

So we get to the hospital, and the whole time, Sick is holding my purse. Finally, we get up to labor and delivery, and he sets it down on the counter in the room.

[Andrea Gunning]

Sick wouldn't leave her, and he made it known that he was a doctor.

[Brooke Fisk]

He's right there the whole time, right next to my bed, helping them move me from stretcher to bed and talking to the doctor about their medical training and where they've both worked. And he's that normal person that everybody likes in that room. Finally he goes into the bathroom and I whisper to the nurse to make him leave. I could just see the color drain out of her face. She looked at me and she whispered back, are you okay? And I said no. A couple of minutes later, the charge nurse came in and got sick and said that she wanted to show him the father's lounge. And she took him out. And then the nurse and the doctor came and asked me what was going on. And I said, I swear I'm not crazy, but I think he poisoned me. I found pills in my tea and they're in a baggie in my purse.

[Andrea Gunning]

The nurse went into Brooke's bag and grabbed the Ziploc with the pill fragments. She wanted to send them to the lab for testing.

[Brooke Fisk]

Not long after that, my water broke and Kai was born. He was not alive. Part of me still hoped he would cry when he was born, but he didn't. But they wrapped him up in a blanket and put a little tiny hat on him and brought him to me. They let me hold Kai for a couple of hours. When I was holding Kai, I wasn't thinking at all about what Sick had done. It was more thinking about the loss. Even though Kai wasn't alive, still looking at him, there was sort of this amazement about who he was as a person, which is odd to say about somebody who wasn't alive to recognize who they are as a person. But he was. He was a little person with little long fingers and long toes. And that's what I was thinking about when I was looking at him, that he probably would have played basketball and he would have been tall and maybe he would have played piano because he would have had long piano playing fingers. Probably sounds strange to somebody who hasn't lost a baby, but that's what I was thinking about in that moment.

[Andrea Gunning]

Sick was in the room too.

[Brooke Fisk]

When he saw what Kai actually looked like, Sick cried. I almost think that that is the first time Sick realized that it was a whole human. I think that was really the first time that it was real in his mind that that was his son.

[Andrea Gunning]

After they took Kai's footprints and filled out the paperwork, his body was taken for an autopsy.

[Brooke Fisk]

7Am rolls around and the day shift nurse comes in and she takes me in the bathroom and she very quietly asks me what happened.

[Andrea Gunning]

Once again, Brooke told the story and.

[Brooke Fisk]

She says, what are you going to do? And I said, I don't know. I don't know what to do. And she said, if there is any part of you that thinks that this man poisoned you and killed your baby, you need to report him.

[Andrea Gunning]

Brooke agreed.

[Brooke Fisk]

And she said, have you asked him. Have you asked him if he did this? And I said, no. And she said, I think you should.

[Andrea Gunning]

So they went back in the room just as Sick was walking back in.

[Brooke Fisk]

And he said he was going to go back to his apartment and take a shower, get changed and bring me some clothes. And I said that before he left, I wanted to ask him a question. And I asked him, did you poison me? And he said, do you honestly think I would do that to you? I said, yes, I do. And I told him I found ground up pill in the bottom of my cup and I gave it to the nurse and they're going to have it tested. So if you did this, you need to come clean with me right now. And he started crying. And he put his head down on the bed. He was sitting in a chair next to the bed. And he put his head down on the bed and just started bawling. And he told me that he had put misoprostol in my coffee that morning and that's why I had a stomach ache. And when it didn't work, he ground up more and put it in my tea that night.

[Andrea Gunning]

It was the final confirmation. She just stared at him in silence, heartbroken, Sick continued talking and tried to rationalize what he'd done.

[Brooke Fisk]

And he said that the reason that he did it is because he knew that I loved him and I wanted to do what was best for him. But he knew that if I made the decision to have an abortion, I would be unhappy about it. So he was making the decision for me so that I wouldn't have to live with it. He said it like he thought that he was doing something benevolent for me, but he wasn't. He was taking from me somebody that I loved, somebody that I wanted in my life. And he was justifying it and acting like he was doing it for my benefit.

[Andrea Gunning]

He really seemed to believe he had done the right thing.

[Brooke Fisk]

I couldn't believe what he was saying to me. I couldn't believe it. I. I felt betrayed. I felt like, that's not your decision to make. And he was completely selfish. Rather than taking on what he thought was going to be ridicule, he was causing pain to other people. That's a coward. And while he was saying it, there's a knock on the door to my hospital room and that was the police.

[Andrea Gunning]

The police took Sick into another room.

[Brooke Fisk]

For questioning and he confessed that he had poisoned me. So they arrested him and took him to jail.

[Andrea Gunning]

Brooke wouldn't see him again until his sentencing hearing. But Sick had left his phone with her, so she picked it up and made a call.

[Brooke Fisk]

I called his brother who lives here in New York, and I told his brother Sick had been arrested and what he had been arrested for, that he had poisoned me and killed our baby. And his brother said he didn't know that I was pregnant. I said that I couldn't take care of Zach anymore, that he was not my responsibility and he needed to come down here and take care of his brother.

[Andrea Gunning]

Before they hung up, Six's brother had one more thing to say.

[Brooke Fisk]

While he didn't know that I was pregnant, they did know that sir and I were seeing each other. And his mom had known for years. She'd known since the day she met me. And they had just been waiting for him to tell them.

[Andrea Gunning]

It was a tragic revelation. The pressure Sick put on himself to live up to his family's expectations was self imposed. His family would have accepted Brooke and their son. Brooke called a friend who flew down to D.C. to pick her up at the hospital. Before they started the drive home, they stopped by 6 apartment to get Brooke's bags.

[Brooke Fisk]

The police met us there. It was very strange to go in. There's crime scene tape in his apartment and it's been ransacked by the police. Just an odd feeling knowing that that's now the scene of a crime and it's a place that you painted and decorated.

[Andrea Gunning]

The police had turned the apartment upside down to find more evidence, and they did. They found white powder in a pack of 100 misopristol tablets with 10 doses missing. He'd given her all 10 in one day. It was a massive overdose.

[Brooke Fisk]

So he had given me 200 milligrams in the morning, and then when that didn't work, he gave me an additional 600 milligrams in the evening. He probably needed to give me that dose because I was way further along in pregnancy.

[Andrea Gunning]

The police told Brooke they'd be in touch and that was it.

[Brooke Fisk]

The drive back to New York was awful. There's no eloquent way to say that. It was just awful. I cried most of the way back. I missed my baby. I went down to D.C. thinking that I was making a parenting plan. And I came back missing my baby with business cards for investigators and Victims assistance, phone numbers in my luggage, doubting who I knew. For the last five years, my whole world had changed.

[Andrea Gunning]

And then came the regrets. Even though she knew it wasn't her fault, all she wanted was to go back.

[Brooke Fisk]

Back in time, you know, blaming yourself. I wish I had never driven down there. I shouldn't have done that. I should have known better. I've worked through that. I don't still blame myself, but at that time, I did. I kept thinking that how stupid was I to drive down there?

[Andrea Gunning]

When she got home, the loss became even more real because she had to find a way to tell her kids.

[Brooke Fisk]

Not only was I dealing with my own emotions, but I had to tell my kids that I wasn't pregnant anymore and they weren't getting a baby brother. And not only were they not getting a baby brother, but their baby brother was murdered. And not only was he murdered, he was murdered by somebody that they knew and trusted. And I have to help them through that. While I'm trying to manage my own emotional fallout from this and also figure out what to do about this criminal case, I can hardly function to get dinner on the table.

[Andrea Gunning]

Her kids weren't just mourning a baby brother. They were mourning a sense of safety. And Brooke had to carry all of it. She took leave from work, leaned on her friends, and found a therapist. Even with all the support, she stayed awake at night, trying to make sense of what happened.

[Brooke Fisk]

I really went through this period of wondering if I ever knew him at all, and did I ever see him, or was I fooling myself? Was he a monster this entire time? And I just didn't want to see it? And I really did have to think about that. Because either I loved a monster and never knew he was a monster, or I loved a man and then he became a monster. One of those is true.

[Andrea Gunning]

Her heart tells her it was the latter.

[Brooke Fisk]

I had to objectively look at the person that he was and look at his actions leading up to that time and look at the way he treated people. I really think that I loved a man who became a monster.

[Andrea Gunning]

Sick was charged with premeditated fetal homicide. He initially pled not guilty.

[Brooke Fisk]

I didn't want to go to a trial. I really just wanted him to plead guilty and take responsibility for what he did. That's when I decided to speak out about what had happened.

[Andrea Gunning]

Brooke went to the local news to tell her story.

[Brooke Fisk]

After I talked to the media, he changed his mind and decided to plead guilty.

[Andrea Gunning]

After that, the only thing left was the sentencing hearing.

[Brooke Fisk]

He was facing 20 years to life in prison. He's not an American citizen, so whenever he completed his sentence, he was going to be deported back to Pakistan. So when he decided to plead guilty, what I decided to do was to ask for leniency for him. So I wrote a letter to the judge and asked for leniency. And I explained to the judge that my son is gone. My son is dead. Kai's life is over. He will never do anything with his life. He's gone. He won't have a chance. But Six still does. He still has a chance. And I would hate to see two lives be gone because of this. And I really think that rather than wasting the rest of his life sitting in prison, Sick owes it to Kai to do something with his life. The judge wrote my letter and granted him leniency and sentenced him to four years in prison. Otherwise, he would have given him 20 years to life.

[Andrea Gunning]

Sick was released from prison in 2021 and deported to Pakistan. Today it's been eight years since the crime, and despite everything she's gone through, she manages to live a joyful and fulfilling life.

[Brooke Fisk]

Today I have finished my master's degree in nursing, and I'm teaching nursing. I do Brazilian jiu jitsu a couple of times a week as a fun hobby and exercise. It's very empowering. I love doing that.

[Andrea Gunning]

She and her kids chose to memorialize Kai.

[Brooke Fisk]

His brother got a burial plot and said a prayer over him, and we buried him in a cemetery here. So he's got a little gravestone in a cemetery up here in upstate New York with his little superhero on it. And it says, superheroes never sleep.

[Andrea Gunning]

We end all of our weekly episodes with the same question. Why do you want to share your story?

[Brooke Fisk]

When people hear my story, it is a little bit shocking. And people often say, oh, my God, I can't believe that happened to you. But what I like people to take from it is, no matter what happens, no matter what you go through, you get stronger and you learn to carry it. I was surprised that I made it through. I was surprised by the amount of strength that I came up with. And looking at it from the other side, I look back and I think, wow, I made it through that. If I could make it through that, people can make it through anything. They really can.

[Andrea Gunning]

Next week on Betrayal Weekly.

[Brooke Fisk]

I go, what are you involved in? Are you being investigated by the FBI? And he looked at me so coldly, like he never knew me. And he said, if I go down, I'm taking you with me.

[Andrea Gunning]

If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team or want to tell us your Betrayal story? Email us at betrayalpie. That's betrayalpodmail.com we're grateful for your support. One way to show support is by subscribing to our show on Apple Podcasts.

[Andrea Gunning (Betrayal Host)]

And don't forget to rate and review Betrayal.

[Andrea Gunning]

Five star reviews go a long way. A big thank you to all of our listeners. Betrayal is a production of Glass Podcasts, a division of Glass Entertainment Group in partnership with iHeart Podcasts. The show the show is executive produced by Nancy Glass and Jennifer Faison, hosted and produced by me, Andrea Gunning. Written and produced by Monique Laborde. Also produced by Ben Fetterman. Associate producers are Kristen Melchiori and Kaitlin Golden. Our iHeart team is ally Perry and Jessica Krynczyk. Audio editing and mixing by Matt Galvecchio Additional editing support from Tanner Robbins Betrayals the theme composed by Oliver Baines Music library provided by My Music and for more podcasts from iHeart, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Kindbody Podcast Narrator]

Introducing IVF disrupted the Kind Body Story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. It grew like a tech startup. While kindbody did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients.

[Kindbody Patient]

You think you're finally like in the right hands? You're just not.

[Kindbody Podcast Narrator]

Listen to IVF Disrupted the Kind Body Story on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Liz (Hands Tied Podcast Narrator)]

Liz went from being interested in true crime to living true crime.

[Brooke Fisk]

My husband said, your dad's been killed.

[Liz (Hands Tied Podcast Narrator)]

This is Hands Tied, a true crime podcast exploring the murder of Jim Melgar.

[Brooke Fisk]

I was just completely in shock.

[Liz (Hands Tied Podcast Narrator)]

Liz's father murdered and her mother found locked in a closet, her hands and feet bound.

[Brooke Fisk]

It didn't feel real at all.

[Liz (Hands Tied Podcast Narrator)]

More than a decade on, she's still searching for answers.

[Brooke Fisk]

We're still fighting.

[Liz (Hands Tied Podcast Narrator)]

Listen to Hands Hands tied on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Andrea Gunning (Betrayal Host)]

Hi everyone, I'm Andrea Gunning, host of Betrayal, and I'm excited to bring you a brand new season of Betrayal Weekly. I'm also excited to tell you that.

[Andrea Gunning]

You can now get access to all.

[Andrea Gunning (Betrayal Host)]

Episodes of betrayal season 1, 2, 3 and betrayal weekly and every single episode of betrayal season 4 ad free and one week early through the I heart true crime plus subscription available exclusively on Apple podcasts plus. You'll get access to other char topping true crime shows you love. Like the Real Killer, the Girlfriends, American Homicide There and Gone, South Street, Burden of Guilt, Murder on Songbird Road, the Idaho Massacre, Paper Ghosts and more. So don't wait. Head to Apple Podcasts, search for iheartrue crime and subscribe today.

[Brooke Fisk]

It was an unimaginable crime.

[Liz (Hands Tied Podcast Narrator)]

It's four consecutive live terms for Bryan Coburger, who killed the four University of Idaho students.

[Brooke Fisk]

Nearly 30 months of silence until Bombshell development.

[Liz (Hands Tied Podcast Narrator)]

Bryan Coburger has agreed to plead guilty.

[Brooke Fisk]

No trial, no testimony.

[Andrea Gunning]

The defense are on a sinking ship.

[Matt Rogers and Dawn Yang (Las Culturistas Hosts)]

This isn't the justice you wanted, but this is justice.

[Brooke Fisk]

Listen to season three of the Idaho Massacre on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Andrea Gunning]

This is an iHeart podcast.