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Meet the man who pioneered one of the biggest developments in the retirement planning industry. Curtis Cloke, a financial professional of 30 years and the man who's credited with pioneering the Deferred Income Annuity, or DIA as it's called. In this interview, Curtis shares the story of how he developed the game changing retirement tool and gives an example of the "Buy Income, Chase Alpha" strategy which allowed him to generate $82,000 a year of Guaranteed Income, and invest more aggressively with the remaining savings he has, instead of tying it up in the market.Watch the Interview on Youtube for Visuals - https://youtu.be/ISuazQCD1bQBuy Your Tickets to the Life Insurance Summit! Click Here: https://betterwealth.com/summitConnect with Curtis Cloke: Website - https://curtiscloke.com/Software - https://curtiscloke.com/retirement-nextgen.htmlEmail - mgebhardt@thriveincome.comWant to See If Whole Life Insurance Can Improve Your Financial Plan? Schedule Your Clarity Call Here: https://bttr.ly/bw-yt-aa-clarityWant Us To Review Your Permanent Life Insurance Policy? Click Here: https://bttr.ly/yt-policy-reviewWant Free Whole Life Insurance Resources & Education? Go Here: https://bttr.ly/yt-bw-vaultLearn More About BetterWealth: https://betterwealth.comChapters:00:00 Interview Teaser 01:18 Curtis Cloke: Retirement Industry Legend 03:42 The 1999 Discovery 05:08 Deferred Income Annuity (DIA) 13:30 How the DIA Was Named and Developed 20:45 Timber Harvesting 23:05 Why Doing the Right Thing Pays Off Long-Term? 28:12 Legacy vs. Money in Financial Services 36:15 Guaranteed Retirement Income Early 39:35 Diversification and Insurance Company Protections 42:10 Why Annuities Are So Misunderstood? 43:35 Fisher Investments vs. Annuities Debate 45:20 Problem With Calling All Annuities “Bad” 50:05 42 Different Types of Annuities 54:35 Responding to Dave Ramsey’s CriticismDISCLAIMER: https://bttr.ly/aapolicy*This video is for entertainment purposes only and is not financial or legal advice. Financial Advice Disclaimer: All content on this channel is for education, discussion, and illustrative purposes only and should not be construed as professional financial advice or recommendation. Should you need such advice, consult a licensed financial or tax advisor. No guarantee is given regarding the accuracy of the information on this channel. Neither host nor guests can be held responsible for any direct or incidental loss incurred by applying any of the information offered.

I sit down with the president of the Nelson Nash Institute to walk through the core principles of the infinite banking concept as Nelson Nash intended as well as covering the future of IBC. I also directly address some of my concerns and issues with completely removing banks from one's financial plan.Watch the Interview on Youtube for Visuals - https://youtu.be/M72BN415fOEWant to See If Whole Life Insurance Can Improve Your Financial Plan? Schedule Your Clarity Call Here: https://bttr.ly/bw-yt-aa-clarityWant Us To Review Your Permanent Life Insurance Policy? Click Here: https://bttr.ly/yt-policy-reviewWant Free Whole Life Insurance Resources & Education? Go Here: https://bttr.ly/yt-bw-vaultLearn More About BetterWealth: https://betterwealth.comChapters:00:00 - Interview Trailer and Defining Infinite Banking 01:16 - Guest Introduction - David Stearns 01:48 - How Would You Define the Infinite Banking Concept? 04:45 - Volume vs. Rate 06:56 - Relationship to R. Nelson Nash18:56 - History of the Infinite Banking Concept 27:23 - The Nelson Nash Institute 37:54 - Core Things You Need To Stay in the Institute 42:52 - The Five Simple Rules of Infinite Banking *Think long range *Don’t be afraid to capitalize *Don’t steal the peas *Don’t do business with banks *Rethink your thinking1:01:24 - Addressing Controversies and Misconceptions 1:20:24 - The Role of Banks and ControlDISCLAIMER: https://bttr.ly/aapolicy*This video is for entertainment purposes only and is not financial or legal advice. Financial Advice Disclaimer: All content on this channel is for education, discussion, and illustrative purposes only and should not be construed as professional financial advice or recommendation. Should you need such advice, consult a licensed financial or tax advisor. No guarantee is given regarding the accuracy of the information on this channel. Neither host nor guests can be held responsible for any direct or incidental loss incurred by applying any of the information offered.

I sit down with Velocity Banking Expert, Anthony Rushing, to discuss using 1st lien HELOCs to pay off debt. Anthony answers the questions of when this concept does and doesn't make sense, and responds to the most common objections against the strategy.Watch the Interview on Youtube for Visuals -https://youtu.be/JIdrn74opF4Want to See If Whole Life Insurance Can Improve Your Financial Plan? Schedule Your Clarity Call Here: https://bttr.ly/bw-yt-aa-clarityWant Us To Review Your Permanent Life Insurance Policy? Click Here: https://bttr.ly/yt-policy-reviewWant Free Whole Life Insurance Resources & Education? Go Here: https://bttr.ly/yt-bw-vaultLearn More About BetterWealth: https://betterwealth.comChapters:00:00 - Interview Teaser01:30 - Disclaimer02:20 - Mechanics of First-Lien HELOCs*First-Lien Position*Interest Calculation*Rate Types*Bank Retention Barrier to Entry13:53 - First-Lien vs. Second-Lien HELOCs16:12 - Velocity Banking Concepts*Line of Credits*HELOC as a Checking Account*Positive Cash Flow31:13 - Behavioral Advantages and Motivational Theory*Liquidity and Control *Motivational Theory*Automation44:40 - Misconceptions and Complexities*Simple Interest *Math vs. Reality01:27:36 - Risks and Contractual Structure*Draw Period (Open-ended)*Repayment Period (Closed-ended)01:49:52 - Who is the First-Lien HELOC For?*The Debt-Motivated*Investor-MindedDISCLAIMER: https://bttr.ly/aapolicy*This video is for entertainment purposes only and is not financial or legal advice. Financial Advice Disclaimer: All content on this channel is for education, discussion, and illustrative purposes only and should not be construed as professional financial advice or recommendation. Should you need such advice, consult a licensed financial or tax advisor. No guarantee is given regarding the accuracy of the information on this channel. Neither host nor guests can be held responsible for any direct or incidental loss incurred by applying any of the information offered.

I sit down with Zach Oehlman, a former velocity banking and 1st lien HELOC advocate turned whistleblower—who’s now calling out major figures like Michael Lush and the Kwak Brothers. After years as a top affiliate with Renatus, Zach breaks down the flawed math behind velocity banking, explains why the strategy doesn’t outperform simply paying down your mortgage, and shares details of his lawsuit against Renatus. If you’ve heard claims of paying off your home in a few years using HELOC “chunking,” this is a direct, numbers-driven breakdown—and an open challenge to anyone defending the strategy.Watch the Interview on Youtube for Visuals - https://youtu.be/OJcLugBokeEWant Us To Review Your Permanent Life Insurance Policy? Click Here: https://bttr.ly/yt-policy-reviewBuy Your Tickets to the Life Insurance Summit! Click Here: https://betterwealth.com/summitLearn More About BetterWealth: https://betterwealth.comChapters:00:00 - Interview Teaser 01:36 - Guest Introduction, Velocity Banking, Lines of Credit 04:24 - The Legal Battle with Renatus *12-Year History with Renatus *Why is he suing the company? 11:40 - Attempts at Dialogue and Professional Audits 18:51 - What is Renatus and What Do They Sell? 24:57 - Understanding the Velocity Banking Pitch 27:31 - Debunking "Amortized Interest" Myths 29:22 - The Host's Own Correction on Amortization 33:59 - Flaw in Comparative Analysis 34:34 - Liquidity, HELOCs, and Second Leans 45:51 - Step-by-Step Math: Mortgage Acceleration Logic 47:23 - How to Pay Less in Interest? 48:02 - How to Pay Off $100k in 3 Years 48:45 - Correct Analysis 57:17 - Mortgage Calculator 01:02:17 - Goal of the Lawsuit 01:10:12 - Final ThoughtsDISCLAIMER: https://bttr.ly/aapolicy*This video is for entertainment purposes only and is not financial or legal advice. Financial Advice Disclaimer: All content on this channel is for education, discussion, and illustrative purposes only and should not be construed as professional financial advice or recommendation. Should you need such advice, consult a licensed financial or tax advisor. No guarantee is given regarding the accuracy of the information on this channel. Neither host nor guests can be held responsible for any direct or incidental loss incurred by applying any of the information offered.

I sit down with Ed Slott, America's top CPA and retirement expert to discuss the asset that has the number one benefit in the tax code for tax free money.Watch the Interview on Youtube for Visuals - https://youtu.be/e8oE0VIRCisBuy Your Tickets to the Life Insurance Summit! Click Here: https://betterwealth.com/summit Want a Whole Life Insurance Policy?Schedule Your Clarity Call Here: https://bttr.ly/bw-yt-aa-clarityLearn More About BetterWealth: https://betterwealth.comDISCLAIMER: https://bttr.ly/aapolicy*This video is for entertainment purposes only and is not financial or legal advice. Financial Advice Disclaimer: All content on this channel is for education, discussion, and illustrative purposes only and should not be construed as professional financial advice or recommendation. Should you need such advice, consult a licensed financial or tax advisor. No guarantee is given regarding the accuracy of the information on this channel. Neither host nor guests can be held responsible for any direct or incidental loss incurred by applying any of the information offered.

I sit down with Tom Gober, a Certified Financial Examiner and Certified Fraud Examiner with 41 years of experience, to discuss the growing problem of private equity, fraud, and reinsurance in the life insurance industry. Tom Gober spent 12 years working with the FBI, uncovering major insurance schemes. Now he's blowing the whistle on the riskiest company, Athene Annuity and Life Company, who's controlled by the massive private equity group, Apollo.Watch the Interview on Youtube for Visuals - https://youtu.be/ftKy6WeTDkIWant Us To Review Your Permanent Life Insurance Policy? Click Here: https://bttr.ly/yt-policy-reviewBuy Your Tickets to the Life Insurance Summit! Click Here: https://betterwealth.com/summitConnect with Tom Gober: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-gober-1a827235/Learn More About BetterWealth: https://betterwealth.comChapters:00:00 - Interview Teaser 01:38 - Guest Introduction: Tom Gober 02:31 - Biggest Concerns About The Insurance Industry 03:08 - Capital Surplus 04:16 - Risks of Offshore and Captive Reinsurance 07:42 - Traditional vs. Modern Reinsurance 16:22 - Mutual vs. Stock and Private Equity Insurance Companies 23:44 - Consequences of Insolvency 26:48 - Tom Gober’s Backstory: Going Undercover *State Examiner *12-Year Collaboration *Reinsurance Schemes 41:15 - Difference Between Banking Regulation and Insurance Regulation 42:33 - Special Purpose Vehicle (SPV) 47:55 - Why Captives Could Be A Valuable to Insurance Companies 57:03 - The Private Equity "Amplifier" 01:07:43 - Concerns Over Ratings and Loan Covenants 01:13:40 - Deep Dive: Analysis of a Major Carrier 01:24:09 - Excessive Affiliated Investments 01:31:56 - Advice for Consumers and Advisors01:39:29 - Final ThoughtsDISCLAIMER: https://bttr.ly/aapolicy*This video is for entertainment purposes only and is not financial or legal advice. Financial Advice Disclaimer: All content on this channel is for education, discussion, and illustrative purposes only and should not be construed as professional financial advice or recommendation. Should you need such advice, consult a licensed financial or tax advisor. No guarantee is given regarding the accuracy of the information on this channel. Neither host nor guests can be held responsible for any direct or incidental loss incurred by applying any of the information offered.

I sit down with Real Estate & Infinite Banking expert, Ryan Lee, to break down his step-by-step guide to retire in 10 years or less using life insurance and turn-key real estate to generate $10K a month of tax free income for life.Watch the Interview on Youtube for Visuals - https://youtu.be/Bp36IxXrtG4Want to See If Whole Life Insurance Can Improve Your Financial Plan? Schedule Your Clarity Call Here: https://bttr.ly/bw-yt-aa-clarityWant Us To Review Your Permanent Life Insurance Policy? Click Here: https://bttr.ly/yt-policy-reviewWant Free Whole Life Insurance Resources & Education? Go Here: https://bttr.ly/yt-bw-vaultConnect with Ryan Lee:Buy Ryan's Book - https://retirein10years.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theryandlee/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WealthOutsideWallStreetLearn More About BetterWealth: https://betterwealth.comChapters:00:00 - Interview Teaser01:28 - Guest Introduction - Ryan Lee03:05 - Setting the 10-Year Constraint08:00 - Identifying Financial Risks13:41 - The Equity Mill Strategy18:42 - Life Insurance as a Wealth Vault19:35 - Power of Real Estate and Inflation33:00 - Phantom Income and the Wealthy's Playbook38:00 - Managing a 10-Year Retirement Plan48:16 - Dependency Economy vs. Ownership Economy55:53 - Real Estate Due Diligence01:00:23 - Lending and Leverage Mechanics01:09:47 - Diversification and Hedges01:17:57 - Final Words on Perspective and VisionDISCLAIMER: https://bttr.ly/aapolicy*This video is for entertainment purposes only and is not financial or legal advice. Financial Advice Disclaimer: All content on this channel is for education, discussion, and illustrative purposes only and should not be construed as professional financial advice or recommendation. Should you need such advice, consult a licensed financial or tax advisor. No guarantee is given regarding the accuracy of the information on this channel. Neither host nor guests can be held responsible for any direct or incidental loss incurred by applying any of the information offered.

Give me 57 Minutes, and I'll Change The Way You Think About Whole Life Insurance. Life insurance is more than a death benefit, it's a Foundational Asset that helps you keep, protect, and grow your wealth at the same time. In this masterclass, Caleb Guilliams walks through everything you need to know about utilizing max funded whole life insurance to better your wealth and financial legacy for generations.Watch the Interview on Youtube for Visuals - https://youtu.be/JAfyY9tK6OYWant a Whole Life Insurance Policy? Go Here: https://bttr.ly/bw-yt-aa-clarityWant Us To Review Your Permanent Life Insurance Policy? Click Here: https://bttr.ly/yt-policy-reviewWant More Free Whole Life Insurance Resources & Education? Go Here: https://bttr.ly/yt-bw-vaultLearn More About BetterWealth: https://betterwealth.comChapters:00:00 - Introduction to the "And Asset" Strategy01:34 - The Concept of Wealth Efficiency06:07 - Why More "Jobs" Make Your Dollars More Valuable?10:16 - The "Perfect Asset" and Specially Designed Whole Life Insurance12:19 - Validation and Institutional Use of Life Insurance16:17 - The Benefits of Overfunded Life Insurance18:22 - Life Insurance 101: Contracts and Design21:04 - Typical vs. Overfunded Policy Design26:22 - Pros and Cons of the Strategy29:52 - Case Study 1: The Entrepreneurial Investor31:17 - Understanding the Mathematical "Equivalent Return"35:35 - How to Utilize and Borrow Against Your Policy?42:47 - Case Study 2: The Retirement Optimizer50:08 - Case Study 3: The Legacy Maximizer51:09 - Addressing Criticisms and Common Questions55:37 - Closing and Next StepsDISCLAIMER: https://bttr.ly/aapolicy*This video is for entertainment purposes only and is not financial or legal advice. Financial Advice Disclaimer: All content on this channel is for education, discussion, and illustrative purposes only and should not be construed as professional financial advice or recommendation. Should you need such advice, consult a licensed financial or tax advisor. No guarantee is given regarding the accuracy of the information on this channel. Neither host nor guests can be held responsible for any direct or incidental loss incurred by applying any of the information offered.

Sitting down with Garrett Gunderson, a legacy and generational wealth expert, to give a step-by-step guide in how to create, set up, and build generational wealth for your family, just like the Rockefellers. In this video, Garrett gives the three steps to the Rockefeller Method, as well as some bonus steps that often get missed. This is a deep dive into how to structure Living Trusts, life insurance, and more for your family's dynasty plan.Watch the Interview on Youtube for Visuals - https://youtu.be/W-TBD3HIVoAWant a Whole Life Insurance Policy? Go Here: https://bttr.ly/bw-yt-aa-clarityWant Us To Review Your Permanent Life Insurance Policy? Click Here: https://bttr.ly/yt-policy-reviewWant More Free Whole Life Insurance Resources & Education? Go Here: https://bttr.ly/yt-bw-vaultLearn More About BetterWealth: https://betterwealth.comChapters:00:00 - Introduction to the Rockefeller Method01:24 - Current Financial Challenges02:18 - Family Financing and Trusts03:30 - Overcoming Scarcity Mindsets05:44 - Leveraging Cash Value and Lines of Credit07:46 - Success of the Rockefeller Book11:09 - MDRT - Million Dollar Round Table Award13:25 - Family Constitution18:04 - Step One: Establishing a Trust*Revocable Living Trusts*Privacy and Protection*The Role of Trustees*Establishing a "Family Bank"20:32 - Step 2: Strategic Life Insurance*Economic Value Replacement.*Whole Life Insurance Benefits*Replenishing the Trust28:20 - Step 3: The Family Constitution*Defining Values and Mottos*Funding Guidelines*The Trust Protector31:56 - Expanding the Method: Retreats and Offices*Family Retreats *Family Offices37:10 - Organizing Meaningful Family Retreats*Purpose of the Retreat*Three Essential Components41:15 - Rituals41:36 - Traditions42:58 - Symbols46:10 - Family Meetings54:17 - Content Trends and Social Media Strategy58:31 - Helping Others Gain Perspective01:04:47 - Conclusion and Final ThoughtsDISCLAIMER: https://bttr.ly/aapolicy*This video is for entertainment purposes only and is not financial or legal advice. Financial Advice Disclaimer: All content on this channel is for education, discussion, and illustrative purposes only and should not be construed as professional financial advice or recommendation. Should you need such advice, consult a licensed financial or tax advisor. No guarantee is given regarding the accuracy of the information on this channel. Neither host nor guests can be held responsible for any direct or incidental loss incurred by applying any of the information offered.

I'm putting myself on trial with attorney Frederick Rosenberg, who has spent 30 years as a forensic analyst, picking apart the wreckage of financial disasters. In his book, Dying for Benefits, he comes after the infinite banking concept and agents selling life insurance for income. Can I change his mind?Watch the Interview on Youtube for Visuals - https://youtu.be/MMgdrQ-d4g4Want a Whole Life Insurance Policy? Go Here: https://bttr.ly/bw-yt-aa-clarityWant Us To Review Your Permanent Life Insurance Policy? Click Here: https://bttr.ly/yt-policy-reviewWant More Free Whole Life Insurance Resources & Education? Go Here: https://bttr.ly/yt-bw-vaultLearn More About BetterWealth: https://betterwealth.comChapters:00:00 - Introduction to Fred and his book Dying for Benefits 02:42 - Fred’s Background in Financial Litigation 04:13 - Critical Issues with Infinite Banking and IUL Policies 12:37 - Role of Permanent Life Insurance 18:00 - Debating Policy Lapse Statistics 25:48 - The "Phantom Tax" and Surrender Consequences 32:15 - Analyzing Insurance Policy Illustrations 42:35 - Putting Life Insurance Theories "On Trial" 57:01 - Scenario A vs. Scenario B: Savings vs. Insurance 01:06:44 - Concept of "Value Arbitrage" 01:21:01 - Risks of Borrowing and Source of Repayment 01:28:58 - Discussion on Imputed Interest and Business Deductions 01:36:44 - Diversification and Proportionality in Portfolios 01:40:52 - Closing Remarks and Future CollaborationDISCLAIMER: https://bttr.ly/aapolicy*This video is for entertainment purposes only and is not financial or legal advice. Financial Advice Disclaimer: All content on this channel is for education, discussion, and illustrative purposes only and should not be construed as professional financial advice or recommendation. Should you need such advice, consult a licensed financial or tax advisor. No guarantee is given regarding the accuracy of the information on this channel. Neither host nor guests can be held responsible for any direct or incidental loss incurred by applying any of the information offered.