What if you didn't have to wait until the end of your life to rest, explore, and pursue the things that matter most to you? That's the question at the heart of this week's conversation—and honestly, it's one that has stayed with me long after we finished recording.

My guest, Jillian Johnsrud, never expected to retire early. So instead, she made a plan to retire often. By 40, she had taken over a dozen mini retirements.

In our conversation, we dig into what mini retirements actually look like in practice, how to overcome the very real challenges of planning, negotiating time off, and financing these breaks, and why intentional pauses can lead to more creativity, career clarity, and even higher earnings. We also talk about using mini-retirements as a low-risk way to test a new country before making a big move abroad—something close to my own heart.

If you've ever felt like life is passing a little too fast, or that you're waiting for someday to finally live the way you want, this episode is for you.

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Book recommendation:

The Icarus Deception, by Seth Godin

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