Kelly Stafford Gets Real on Marriage, NFL WAG Stereotypes, & Super Bowl Memories

Summary

BFFR with Sydney Leroux & Ali Riley

Episode: Kelly Stafford Gets Real on Marriage, NFL WAG Stereotypes, & Super Bowl Memories

Release Date: August 25, 2025
Guests: Kelly Stafford (host of “The Morning After”, mother of four, wife of LA Rams QB Matthew Stafford)
Hosts: Sydney Leroux (“Sid”), Ali Riley (“Ally”)

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Overview:

This episode brings a candid, funny, and highly personal conversation with Kelly Stafford. The co-hosts and Kelly dive into life as an NFL wife and mom, breaking down misconceptions, swapping marriage and parenting stories, and sharing genuine insights into the chaos and joys of their unique worlds. The episode covers everything from NFL stereotypes and Super Bowl highs to raw takes on gentle parenting, youth sports, and keeping marriage alive.

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Main Discussion Points & Key Insights

1. Super Bowl Memories & The Disney Aftermath

• Winning the Super Bowl: Kelly describes the surreal, exhausting experience post-Super Bowl, including the “Disneyland” tradition.
  • Quote: “And I had to take my kids to Disney...I think my husband and I passed out on the couch at 7:30am and then had a knock on the door at 8:15 from the Disney people.” – Kelly ([00:07], [16:05])
• The Morning After: Post-game reality sets in quickly, blending celebration with immediate family demands.
  • Quote: “You’re still on a complete high...Honestly, the night was a little blurry...I couldn’t watch the last drive, so I was in the hallway…” ([17:04])
• Family on the Field: NFL limits field access, but Kelly made sure all her girls made it.
  • Quote: “They just ran. And I was like, I’m so sorry. I gotta catch up, my other three.” ([18:47])

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2. NFL Wives, Community & Stereotypes

• Realities Behind the Stereotypes: Kelly discusses the evolving role of “quarterback’s wife” and the sense of community among NFL partners, especially for newcomers.
  • Quote: “Being the quarterback’s wife, there is a responsibility there...I do feel like the mom now.” ([24:20])
• Fashion & Judgment: The scrutiny on NFL wives for what they wear.
  • Quote: “I got crushed on that...people hated it. They’re like, 'You’re trying too hard.' I was like, I’m not for you; I’m trying for my husband.” ([26:07])

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3. Balancing Parenting, Careers & Emotional Loads

• Life as a Mom of Four: Kelly talks about the challenge of “having emotional space for it all”.
  • Quote: “Time for it all...is easier than emotionally having space for it all, which is what I’m dealing with now with my podcast.” ([02:12])
• Emotional Toll of Football Season: High stress, anxiety on game days, and watching Matthew play through pain.
  • Quote: “Sundays, I don’t eat because I just, like, can’t.” ([05:36])
• Youth Sports & Realistic Expectations: The women bond over competitiveness, struggles with “stage parents”, and their desire for their kids to try everything without pressure.
  • Quote: “I want them to dream that and push for it. But I’m also like, it’s really hard to get there, and I want to, like, set expectations.” ([08:26])

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4. Motherhood, Gentle Parenting & Boundaries

• Not-So-Gentle Parenting: The trio reject “gentle parenting” as a universal strategy, citing need for boundaries and their own upbringings.
  • Quote: “You can tell whose kids are gentle parented...you end up parenting them because you have to.” ([46:00])
• Parenting Confidence: Both Kelly and Ally express pride in their parenting style, acknowledging the questioning all moms face.
  • Quote: “You’re a really good mom, and I know I’m a really good mom. So that’s all that matters.” ([48:52])

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5. Marriage, Confidence & Finding Yourself

• Nurturing Marriage Under the Spotlight: Kelly shares how moving young impacted her confidence and relationship with Matthew.
  • Quote: “It never felt like I was good enough...if I could tell myself something, just relax. The one you are trying to impress loves you for who you are and what you look like...” ([39:05])
• Marriage Advice:
  • Quote: “He finally looked at me...‘You have to be happy first. I can’t make you happy. You have to be happy with yourself first.’” ([40:15])
• Keeping Marriage Alive: Weekly date nights and intentional connection.
  • Quote: “We date each other...show our girls what that looks like...you have to spend time with one another and not the kids as well.” ([41:27])

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6. The Reality of Being an Athlete Mom

• Travel, Logistics & League Equality: Sid and Ally share frustrations with travel, shared rooms, and barriers for athlete moms in NWSL.
  • Quote: “Motherhood is on the salary cap…I’ve really been trying to fight because...you don’t want to have moms, you’re going to make it more difficult.” – Ally ([30:13])

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7. Lighter Moments & Quickfire Q&A

• BFFR Moments: Poolside steroid gramps and thong bikinis at family pools.
  • Quote: “The amount of 60 to 70 year old men walking around completely steroided up...” – Kelly ([10:48])
• NFL Power Couples: Quick takes on league’s “it” couples.
  • Quote: “Travis and Taylor…Josh Allen and Hailee Steinfeld...Patrick and Brittany Mahomes...” – Kelly ([51:46])
• Personal Cocktail: Kelly’s personality as a drink: “Spicy but mint...refreshing but feisty...on my podcast, we always drink vodka sodas with a splash of cranberry.” ([55:08])

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “To watch the person you love most do what they love most is pretty special.” – Kelly ([04:13])
• “With my girls, it sucks sometimes because Matthew will want to come to games...but it’s like, immediately target on my girl’s back...” – Kelly ([07:37])
• “Everyone thinks their kid is the next LeBron James…they ruin it for the kids.” – Kelly & Ally ([09:06])
• “If you mess with my girls, you’re messing with me.” – Kelly ([07:37])
• On marriage: “Relax. The one you are trying to impress loves you for who you are.” – Kelly ([39:30])
• On self-worth: “You have to be happy first. I can’t make you happy.” – Matthew Stafford, recounted by Kelly ([40:15])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Super Bowl aftermath, Disneyland chaos: [00:07], [16:05]
• Motherhood & family logistics: [02:12]–[04:49]
• NFL wives, stereotypes & fashion: [24:20]–[27:16]
• Youth sports, expectations: [06:39]–[09:32]
• Marriage, self-worth & confidence: [38:03]–[41:14]
• Gentle parenting & boundaries: [46:00]–[48:52]
• Rapid fire / Happy Hour: [50:24]–[55:48]

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Tone & Style

The conversation is refreshingly unfiltered, blending self-deprecating humor, mom-realness, and inside-sports banter. Kelly’s candor and the co-hosts’ willingness to “say what everyone’s thinking” make for an engaging, relatable listen full of laughs, honesty, and practical advice for women in and out of sports.

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Conclusion

This is a must-listen for anyone interested in the reality behind the NFL lifestyle, the struggle and humor in working motherhood, or simply craving an honest, fun chat about life, love, and never taking yourself too seriously. Kelly dispels the glitzy “WAG” image with heart, laughs, and real-life details, leaving listeners with both useful wisdom and that “hang out with your girlfriends” warm fuzziness.

Transcript

[Ally]

Talk us through winning the Super Bowl.

[Sid]

We want to know about the after party.

[Ally]

We want to know how you felt the next morning.

[Kelly Stafford]

And I had to take my kids to Disney of it's real when they say, you just want the Super Bowl. Where are you going? And you say, disneyland.

[Sid]

Oh, my gosh.

[Kelly Stafford]

You never want to Disney. Whatever.

[Sid]

The wife and the having to deal with the kids at Disneyland.

[Kelly Stafford]

I mean, I think my husband and I passed out on the couch at 7:30am and then had a knock on the door at 8:15 from the Disney people. Oh, yeah.

[Ally]

No.

[Kelly Stafford]

And I was like, hell. Hello? What?

[Ally]

Welcome to another episode with my girl Ally and me.

[Sid]

S We are back at BFFR show, so don't forget to follow us on socials at BFFR show. Hit that subscribe button. And how many stars do we want?

[Ally]

Five. Five.

[Sid]

Always, always and only. Don't forget to call us 1-833-txt-BFFR, which is 1-833-898-2337. Okay, we're very excited because we have another in SP Studio in person live in Living Color guest today. She's a podcaster, a badass mom of four girls. Yes, we will be talking about that. And okay, fine. We'll mention her husband just happens to be the QB of the LA Rams. Please welcome Kelly Stafford.

[Kelly Stafford]

Thank you. Thank you for having me. Also really impressed with the number situation because people don't realize back in the day that not the letters were on the numbers and stuff.

[Sid]

Yeah, we got to give both just.

[Kelly Stafford]

In case those are.

[Sid]

It's like for our millennials and older. Otherwise DM us at BFFR show.

[Ally]

Perfect. Yes.

[Sid]

Okay. Four girls.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah.

[Ally]

Podcast husband. You got.

[Sid]

You got to go to NFL games.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

Have to so hard, you know, how.

[Sid]

Do you have time for it all?

[Kelly Stafford]

I. Well, obviously being a mom probably takes up most of the time, but I am lucky enough to be able to stay home with them. My husband has provided me that life, so I'm grateful for it. Although sometimes it's really hard. But no, I mean, time for it all, I would say is easier than emotionally having space for it all, which is what I'm kind of dealing with now with my podcast. I often ask the question, like, when is it worth it? Is it. Is it still worth it? So my girls are pretty good. They. They're fine. I'm. I'm enjoying them right now. I'm kind of dreading in like five years when they're 13, we'll have you.

[Sid]

Back on and talk about.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yes. Yes. And actually, all four of them will be in high school together.

[Ally]

I know.

[Kelly Stafford]

So that will be.

[Ally]

What are you going to do?

[Kelly Stafford]

Leave. I'm just going to go. You know what? It's your turn now. I did it when they were younger, and it was really hard. Yeah. Dad, you're going to be retired for sure by then. And you never know.

[Sid]

Or you never know.

[Kelly Stafford]

Listen, every year it's a new. It's a new conversation that we're having.

[Sid]

Oh, yes.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah.

[Ally]

Same with us.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah. Okay.

[Ally]

There you go.

[Sid]

We're the same age.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yes. There you go. I feel like it gets tough on the bodies and all the things broken down.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah. And you guys play on turf, too, no?

[Ally]

Sometimes.

[Sid]

Sometimes, yes. I had a big chunk of my career in Sweden, and we. We played on turf, and I'm. I think I'm feeling the. Yeah, I'm sure that.

[Kelly Stafford]

I don't think people understand that you're playing on cement. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Sid]

Like a little green carpet on top.

[Ally]

My back is.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah, yeah. That's like, my sole mission is trying to get the NFL fields to be grass. It's not working. I'm trying.

[Ally]

It's so crazy.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah.

[Sid]

You add that to your, like, emotional.

[Kelly Stafford]

Things and, you know, with Matthew, he's almost done, so I'm not really, like, it's all for the younger guys that are gonna play on these horrible fields. I'm sorry. And they are the injuries and the heads and all that. And y' all get it. So.

[Ally]

Yeah. What's your favorite and least favorite part part about football season coming up?

[Kelly Stafford]

Oh, okay. Favorite part. I mean, I love watching him play. To watch the person you love most do what they love to do most is pretty special. I. I don't deal with the stress of it very well. He deals with it, like, extremely well. Yeah. Again, watching him is great, but watching him struggle to get up can be tough.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

And my girls, when he gets hard.

[Ally]

Like, hard hits, what do you feel?

[Kelly Stafford]

I. My heart drops every time. But I will say one thing. He, like, knows that, so if he is not at all hurting, he pops right back up.

[Sid]

Okay.

[Kelly Stafford]

And it's not. It is for him and also for the guy that hits him. Know that it didn't hurt that bad. But also I think he knows that we're all watching and he wants. And the girls have started to notice. They noticed it last year a few times when he got hit and was kind of slow and mentioned it to him after games, like, are you okay that you. You almost didn't get up? Type of conversations. And I Think that hit pretty hard for him because it's not easy to watch that. But again, I'm gonna miss it when he does finally hang it up, because I've enjoyed so much watching him do what he can do best and. Well, almost best. He's a great father, too. He's an incredible, actually father, but. Yeah. I also tend to lose weight during the season, and it's not like a good weight loss. It's like a. It's a stress weight. I just. Yeah.

[Ally]

Anxiety.

[Kelly Stafford]

I can't. Like, Sundays, I don'. Eat because I just, like, can't.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah. And if he gets injured at all, it's, you know, those. Those things, they. They add up throughout the season, and even the small injuries that people don't. No one knows about but me at home and the trainer at the. With the Rams. So those can get just tough if they add up.

[Sid]

Yeah, I.

[Ally]

For sure. I mean, we know about the injuries.

[Sid]

You are investors in Angel City, which we are very grateful for. I think.

[Kelly Stafford]

There was a couple trainings when.

[Sid]

When you came out, one of the times you brought. And I was like, oh, my gosh, the Staffords are here.

[Ally]

Like, this is.

[Sid]

This is crazy. Like, pop down the hill. When we were sharing the same vicinity of training.

[Ally]

That's when we were in the. The trailer park.

[Sid]

Yeah. We had trailers and this really terrible field while the Rams were, like, up on the horizon, and we could hear sometimes.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yes. Yes. Yeah.

[Sid]

It's always, like, laughing, and you could.

[Kelly Stafford]

Smell good smells from the food.

[Sid]

They were.

[Kelly Stafford]

We are now.

[Sid]

We are now in that facility. So there has been upgrades. So we're up there. But the girls, are they into soccer?

[Kelly Stafford]

Like, okay, so soccer is there. I would say their number one sport right now. They. Let's go. Yes. We just signed. We just signed up. Which youth sports? Not my cup of.

[Ally]

Ooh, let me tell you.

[Kelly Stafford]

I'm too competitive for that shit, too.

[Ally]

Honestly. That's where, like, when you were talking about watching him and, like, the anxiety that I feel watching my son.

[Kelly Stafford]

Okay, so you, like, you get it. Are you.

[Ally]

I don't really like this, but, like, obviously, I want to be there, but.

[Kelly Stafford]

I'm like, are you, like, anxiety, or are you, like. Like, kind of like, all right, come on, let's. Are you. Do you talk? Do you scream?

[Ally]

I only talk to him.

[Kelly Stafford]

Right?

[Ally]

I only talk to him.

[Kelly Stafford]

That's good.

[Ally]

And, yeah, I don't talk to other kids.

[Kelly Stafford]

They did to me.

[Sid]

But you could probably help them, let's be honest.

[Ally]

But I had to take Cassius out Of, like, a really popular club here because it was just like, parents screaming at him.

[Kelly Stafford]

And I'm like, I'm sorry other boys.

[Sid]

And other boys were not nice to him.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah, no, but, you know, I. With my girls, it sucks sometimes because a lot of times Matthew will want to come to games, which is great, but it's like, immediately target on my girl's back, which I can't. I struggle with because I'm also very competitive, and if you mess with my girls, you're messing with me in a way. But I will say they're feisty out there, and they kind of hold their own good as far. Yeah, never like the best ones, but they will, as long as they're feisty and they. And they love heart and they love it. So it's kind of just like, do it, enjoy it. If we're really serious about it, we'll talk about it in a few years. I want them to kind of try everything.

[Ally]

I always say that. Try definitely until they're like 12, 13, and then they, like, can hone in on one thing, but give them everything.

[Kelly Stafford]

And I also, like, we, obviously, with you guys and then with my husband, you're looking at these professional athletes, but that is a. That's hard to do. It's hard to be you guys. And I don't want my girls thinking, like, oh, I'm going to be, you know, the next professional soccer. But I would love for them to dream that and push for it. But I'm also like, it's really hard to get there, and I want to, like, set expectations. Don't. I don't want to crush dreams. I also want to set realistic expectations for them, too. Like, yeah, we can push, push, push. And if you still love it after you're pushing, then, yeah, we'll push harder. But I also. I don't know, I just feel like there is this. This stigma right now with you sports where every. And I'm sure y' all see it, where everyone thinks their kid is the next LeBron James.

[Ally]

It's the parents. It's not really the kids. It's the parents thinking that they're.

[Kelly Stafford]

They ruin it.

[Ally]

Prodigy.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yes, they ruin it for the kids.

[Ally]

You know, it's like 1% of the population, basically less than that.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah, for sure.

[Ally]

I mean, to be a professional, you.

[Kelly Stafford]

Think about the number games, it's like, listen, do it until. Until you hate it. But, like, realistically, yeah, we're probably just playing for fun.

[Ally]

Yeah, I did say that, and I had, like, this interview thing, and they Were like, what do you tell people about like or parents about, you know, wanting their kids to, to do this and to do that. And I said it's very hard. It's very hard. And all of these parents in the room, like, I love that you're so like happy and excited. But it is like a very small amount of people who make it.

[Kelly Stafford]

It's unrealistic to think you will and.

[Ally]

To have like an entire team think that is like again, like you said, I don't want to crush dreams. But you have to make it realistic.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah.

[Ally]

And that makes them want it more.

[Kelly Stafford]

Or find something else. Yes. Drives into something else they might love.

[Sid]

Kelly, have you had a BFFR moment lately either? Like as a wife of the in the NFL with Matt, with the kids? Like, I mean, we, we have constant BFFR moments with.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah.

[Sid]

Partners, soccer, each other.

[Ally]

Oh God, yeah. Definitely each other.

[Kelly Stafford]

Have I had a moment? Ask that question again. In what? In what way? Just in general. Yes.

[Ally]

Like what's the most be fucking for real moment that you've had lately?

[Kelly Stafford]

Oh, well, I mentioned this on my podcast, but the be frill moment I had, I was sitting at a pool in Atlanta and the amount of 60 to 70 year old men walking around completely steroided up and just would not take a breath.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

But to shit themselves doing this, walking around. And I was just waiting. I was like, is. Are they gonna breathe in that? Mom? Like, are you serious? Also, I don't hate on anyone, do you? When you're 60, 70 years old, things hurt. I get it. Whatever. Throw some steroids in there. But like breathe. Yeah, it ain't that serious.

[Ally]

You don't always have to be. Unless that's what steroids do.

[Kelly Stafford]

Well, I mean it was just like. You didn't see the stomach move. It was just like. Like the.

[Sid]

Were they picking up women? Like what were they.

[Kelly Stafford]

I don't even think. I think their families were. It was like a family pool and I was going to come on and I came back to my husband. I told him he was just like. Lots of eye candy, huh? God, no.

[Ally]

There's nothing like a woman who wears a thong bathing suit to a family family pool.

[Kelly Stafford]

That's tough luck.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

I mean, do you in your own time. But the family pool, the family pool.

[Ally]

Around everyone is a little tough.

[Kelly Stafford]

I gotta explain to my kids why your bathing suit is in your butt. Craft. That's what they say. Why is your bathing suit in your butt? Crap. Yeah.

[Ally]

Honestly, those were the only bathing suits that I ever had. Same until the Kids. And then I'm like, we, we gotta get the full bum.

[Kelly Stafford]

And they don't. They don't even sell them anymore.

[Ally]

No.

[Kelly Stafford]

Have you noticed that? Yes. Yeah, I tried.

[Ally]

I gotta go on Amazon and ask for full bump.

[Sid]

Yeah, no, it's always the. It's. Yeah, the front and the back are the same width. So I'm like, which.

[Kelly Stafford]

Which way?

[Ally]

Yeah, exactly. Which lip is gonna come out?

[Sid]

Exactly. Exactly.

[Kelly Stafford]

It is very interesting, but I. It's tough. The diaper. Bathing suits are hard to find. I call them a diaper. I don't see the pool.

[Ally]

But I need it. I need it.

[Kelly Stafford]

But you need it for a family for Christmas.

[Ally]

I've. I have a couple, you know, in the archives.

[Kelly Stafford]

Do you feel like this is what my sister always said and I found it very interesting. Do you feel like when you wear a full bottom bikini bottom, it makes your butt look that much bigger because there's so much material?

[Ally]

I want a fat ass, though.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but sometimes all these mini bikinis and I'm going, well, if you wore actually a full one. You're asking.

[Ally]

I've never noticed that.

[Sid]

Yeah, No, I think you're right. I think you're on to something. Hot tip, ladies?

[Kelly Stafford]

Yes.

[Ally]

But if it is a little bit from the bottom.

[Sid]

Yeah. Yeah. So if it's just bigger.

[Ally]

Yeah, that's what I need to do.

[Kelly Stafford]

You're welcome. Thank you, my sister.

[Ally]

Hot tip.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yes.

[Sid]

Thank you so much.

[Kelly Stafford]

You're so welcome.

[Sid]

Okay. Some weeks my nutrition game is just not it. Like I'll look back and realize I've eaten nothing green except maybe the olive in my dirty martini.

[Ally]

Honestly, same life gets hectic between training and recording bffr. It's not always realistic to have a perfectly balanced diet.

[Sid]

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[Ally]

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[Sid]

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[Ally]

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[Ally]

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[Sid]

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[Ally]

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[Sid]

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[Ally]

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[Ally]

Talk us through winning the Super Bowl.

[Sid]

We want to know about the after party.

[Ally]

I don't know how you felt the next morning.

[Kelly Stafford]

Like shit. And I take my kids to Disney of it's real when they say you just want to see. Well, where are you going? And you say Disneyland.

[Sid]

Oh my gosh. You never think about the wife and the having to deal with the kids at Disneyland.

[Kelly Stafford]

And they want all of them there. And I completely want the kids there. Which obviously because it's a kid place most. Well, it's not, but you know. Yeah. But it was, I mean, I think my husband, I passed out on the couch at 7:30am and then had a knock on the door at 8:15.

[Sid]

No.

[Kelly Stafford]

From the Disney people. Oh, yeah.

[Ally]

No.

[Kelly Stafford]

I was like, you're like, first of all, I haven't showered back.

[Ally]

What I wanted to do prior to.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah. That's what I always do.

[Ally]

I'm like, why did I sign myself up for this? I was feeling really good.

[Kelly Stafford]

I, I. But you know what?

[Ally]

Reality.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah.

[Sid]

You're a different person.

[Ally]

I'm a different person.

[Kelly Stafford]

I've grown. Yeah.

[Ally]

Grown from that decision.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah.

[Ally]

That I made before. The person I am today.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah. It was a, it was a tough, tough morning. But again, you're still on a complete high. Right. And Honestly, the night was a little blurry. The whole. The whole thing, kind of. I didn't. And I say this and there's like a photo of me out there, but I couldn't watch the last drive, so I was in the hallway and watch it. I. Like, I've watched him battle or had watched him battle in 12 years in Detroit and threw everything at that game and everything at that team that he could. And to watch him first year come here and do what he did. I was on that last drive. I just couldn't. I could not bear watching it.

[Ally]

Yeah, it, like, makes you sick.

[Kelly Stafford]

It. I literally. And I knew, to be honest, I knew that whatever reaction I was going to have was probably going to be somewhere and I can't do it.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

Don't want it. I'm going to get sent in the hallway regardless. Where were the girls? The girls were. The girls were watching. And it was funny. We. I remember. I don't. I don't recall exactly what it was, but he threw a touchdown or something and it was called back, or first down is called back from a flag and someone ran. I was like, we did it.

[Ally]

And I was.

[Kelly Stafford]

And then it got called back and I was like, God bless it. So I went back outside. But it was. Honestly, it was a perfect ending to a story to his LA story of coming here. So it had its ups and downs through the season, but he stood in there and I mean, it was. It was really special, to be honest. Running down there was like, oh, with the girls, I mean.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

And how about this? I think there's a rule within the NFL that you can only have two people on the field, like two of your family members. So if you have more than that, it's too bad. It's like.

[Ally]

It's too bad.

[Kelly Stafford]

I'm not gonna lie. I looked at my little ones and I said, Run.

[Ally]

Yeah. No, 100.

[Kelly Stafford]

And they just ran. And I was like, I'm so sorry. I gotta catch up my other three.

[Ally]

Like, what are you.

[Kelly Stafford]

What are you gonna do?

[Ally]

Chase, like, chase them.

[Kelly Stafford]

And also, like, leave, like. Or just send my twins out there and be like, all right, go find dad. Good luck.

[Ally]

I would also.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah, you gotta get out. I mean, I think a lot of people end up doing that. Sure. Yeah.

[Ally]

I wouldn't even feel bad.

[Kelly Stafford]

I was like, this is. This could be a once in a life. I'm hoping it's not, but this would be a once in a while. I mean, winning super rule is usually a once in a lifetime thing. Unless you're Patrick Mahomes. So. Or Tom Brady. So get out there. You know what I mean? I don't know. It was crazy.

[Sid]

Okay, so you went to Disneyland, and.

[Kelly Stafford]

Then life started over again, you know? And then it was. We were back to mom and dad off season. The off season was shorter because you go longer. So it was kind of like a turnaround was quick.

[Ally]

We basically. Ironically, same off season. If we were to win the Super Bowl.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[Ally]

Our off season is like two months.

[Kelly Stafford]

I was looking at y' all season.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sid]

It's long. Yeah.

[Ally]

Like, it's the longest. I. I feel like soccer is the longest season and y' all play a ton of games.

[Kelly Stafford]

How. How does you. I don't understand it. I don't understand how.

[Sid]

Well, everyone's like, 19 now, so they have no problem.

[Ally]

I'm like.

[Sid]

Everyone's so young.

[Ally]

Yeah, you're fine. You're fine.

[Kelly Stafford]

These girls are coming right out of high school.

[Ally]

Not. Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

Is that right? I know you have the earlier Thompson sisters, right?

[Sid]

Yeah, but we have. We had two 17 year olds.

[Kelly Stafford]

17.

[Ally]

Yeah. Wasn't Ken 16 when she came.

[Sid]

When she came, probably.

[Kelly Stafford]

So she finished contracts. Their parents have to sign them.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sid]

Yeah. They can't be in our locker room.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

Which is.

[Sid]

But the day they turn 18, then. Then they can see us naked. We can see them naked. But not. Not a day earlier.

[Ally]

But they've never seen a naked woman.

[Sid]

Right.

[Ally]

So.

[Sid]

Wow.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

Oh, that's why I even think about that.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

They're just not allowed. So they just go home, like.

[Sid]

No. They have their own locker room.

[Ally]

Yeah. Yeah. And, like, obviously, like, they have friends and, like, I know we're all.

[Sid]

We're all hanging in the locker room, you know, is.

[Ally]

Is important and.

[Sid]

I know.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sid]

But now we. Everyone is 18 and older.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sid]

But the year the Rams won the super bowl, which was obviously very, very exciting, but also, it meant that we couldn't use the training facility, so we couldn't start preseason because no one thought the Rams would make it that far into the.

[Ally]

Yeah. We had to find, like, field space, which was impossible.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

Wow.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sid]

So we are at Pepperdine. It was a big mess. Huge mess. Thank you. Pepperdine, though.

[Ally]

It was great.

[Kelly Stafford]

But obviously cooler down there. It was. Yeah.

[Sid]

But it was rainy, and then we didn't have, like, facilities. We have a locker room.

[Kelly Stafford]

I was thinking, so.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

To shower.

[Sid]

Yeah. Yeah. Two showers for 30 women.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sid]

No, and one and kind of a half. I feel like the two stall. The two toilets didn't always, like, work at the same time. And like, you know, you're like, use this one if you're going to take a shit.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sid]

But it was in there with the showers. So, like, if someone took shit, then it was like, you're tough for everyone. So we went through a lot of poo pourri.

[Kelly Stafford]

I'm so sorry. And now you guys have your own. Now that the Rams are gone out of lmu, you guys really did camp. Sorry, Cali. You guys have your own space that's not gonna be taken by. Yeah. Okay, good. Yeah.

[Sid]

That was the only season when it was timed out for the NFL regular season to end for us to start preseason. After that, we had our own facility. That was when you guys came down and saw us.

[Kelly Stafford]

Okay.

[Ally]

Below.

[Kelly Stafford]

Below with the trailers. Got it, got it, got it.

[Ally]

Okay.

[Kelly Stafford]

And the tent. Yeah.

[Sid]

But so this whole time when we're like, ah, they won again.

[Kelly Stafford]

Like, like, damn it.

[Sid]

Like, I'm from la. I'm like, great. Can they lose already?

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sid]

Jesus. Are you kidding? We're going to the super.

[Kelly Stafford]

Out of our situation.

[Sid]

Stop winning.

[Kelly Stafford]

I'm. I'm very sorry about that, but I'm glad you won.

[Sid]

It's all your fault.

[Ally]

Okay, it is your fault, but we'll let it go. We'll let it go. Yeah. We were playing the boys team. I almost got in a fight.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

I would like you. I mean, I already. But I like, I feel like I like.

[Sid]

You have similar.

[Kelly Stafford]

Oh, yeah. Auras anytime.

[Ally]

Like, we do. Like, who would. Who would pick your fighter?

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah, I can see that. Yeah. I love that.

[Sid]

What are some, like, NFL wife stereotypes? Like, are any. Are they.

[Kelly Stafford]

Are the way.

[Sid]

Is it like. Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

Are they now like a stereotype of them hanging out or just like, is.

[Sid]

It like hunting wives?

[Ally]

I love hunting wives.

[Kelly Stafford]

I binge that we're waiting for season two. They better do it.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

They have to so good. They have to shout out to that. If you haven't watched it, you need to.

[Ally]

Hunting lives.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah. I mean, I would say I'm pretty old now in this game. Yes. And so sometimes it's tough to figure out the similarities with like the young one or the young wives coming in or girlfriends. But no, we do. Like, obviously it's best if we do get together because that's the community. Yeah. When the NFL people don't realize that people are up and moving every. Every week of the season in a way. So new girls are coming in, not knowing where to go, where to live, where to send their. If they have kids, like, that's a whole. Nother ball game. So I think it's really important to have that community. And obviously, being the quarterback's wife, there is a responsibility there.

[Sid]

They're the queen mother.

[Kelly Stafford]

No. And it's. I do feel like the mom now.

[Sid]

Oh, gee.

[Kelly Stafford]

No, it's not. It's just. That's kind of what's been thrown at. Yeah. This position in a way. But it's gotten tough because I have four kids, and, like, I have. On Saturdays, they have soccer games. They have things going on, and that's usually the time, especially when the guys are away, like, you get together. But it's just a little tougher because I have a big family that I also need to take care of. But that doesn't. We. I do my best, but the young ones, yeah, they hang out. They have a time. They look great going to games. I mean, I wish I looked half as good as these girls. If I can get my girls dressed, it's a plus. So on time. We.

[Sid]

But where's the. We have a really. We had an outfit where we were.

[Ally]

Like, you have an outfit?

[Kelly Stafford]

She. She.

[Sid]

She's got it.

[Ally]

Ye. Said she's.

[Kelly Stafford]

That I had an outfit.

[Sid]

We don't know if you wore it to a game, but it was. It was on social media.

[Kelly Stafford]

I hope so. Is it the one that everyone hated? Was it the blue one?

[Sid]

No.

[Kelly Stafford]

No. Okay, great.

[Sid]

This number.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah, that's it. The blue.

[Ally]

Blue.

[Kelly Stafford]

We thought it was black. It's like a navy. It's like a deep, deep navy. We're like, thank you.

[Ally]

What?

[Kelly Stafford]

I am I.

[Ally]

The hair. Just you. Beyonce and the way.

[Kelly Stafford]

And then we were like. I felt really good about it.

[Sid]

Like, what is the bat? Is it about? We were hoping it's not. Although that would be really hot.

[Kelly Stafford]

I mean, hot. Thank you. I appreciate that.

[Ally]

This was.

[Sid]

To a game.

[Kelly Stafford]

Powerful. That was a good date night with Matthew.

[Sid]

Lucky Matt.

[Kelly Stafford]

I do try and, you know, don't spice it up.

[Sid]

Don't get any ideas, Lucas, because this is what I wear to dinner. Like, okay. Rubbing the Palisades.

[Kelly Stafford]

No, it was. But I got crushed on that as, like, people hated it. They're like, you are trying too hard. I was like, why am I trying? Not for you. I'm trying for my husband.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

Maybe I shouldn't have posted it, though. That's me. That's why. What's for my husband?

[Ally]

Feel good about yourself.

[Kelly Stafford]

Feel good.

[Ally]

So post it.

[Kelly Stafford]

Thank you. And, like, thank you for bringing it out.

[Sid]

Hey, it caught our eye. We're like, yeah. We're like, holy.

[Kelly Stafford]

She's hot.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

I love y'. All. Thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah.

[Sid]

That's so funny that it's like. That's one that you, like. Trolls came out.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah, I will maybe.

[Sid]

I don't know. Because I'm like, mother, Queen, mother, like, hot.

[Ally]

Like, can you look like that?

[Sid]

Milf. She's got it.

[Ally]

Okay. Exactly. Exactly.

[Kelly Stafford]

Y' all are great.

[Ally]

Thank you.

[Kelly Stafford]

But that was not too game. Game day is real simple.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

I mean, we were in the car for two hours trying to get there. Yeah. And honestly, all the same. Yes. As.

[Sid]

Are we going to the games.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yes. And when you wear jeans that are, like, really snug, I don't know if you've got the vagina. Go.

[Ally]

I gotta. I gotta undo the.

[Kelly Stafford]

I gotta, like. It's like, up in there.

[Sid]

Up in the lips.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah. Yes. And it goes.

[Sid]

Not tight. Yes.

[Ally]

You can barely walk. Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

You can tell when it's real uncomfortable.

[Ally]

Yeah. You'll see.

[Kelly Stafford]

So, like, I wore one to a game, and I was like this. Yeah. It's like loose. Cute sweat. They do, like, really cute sweats now where you can, like, personalize it. Great. You know?

[Ally]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I forgot the personalization.

[Kelly Stafford]

Oh, it's real.

[Sid]

Oh, yes. Whoa.

[Kelly Stafford]

It's real. Yeah. It's out there. And there's a lot of people doing it now, you know? You know?

[Ally]

Yeah. We have just our jerseys and people wearing the names. No fancy nothing.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[Ally]

We need to start that.

[Sid]

Well, you were gonna get a screen printer and start embroidering.

[Ally]

I like hobbies. Do you like hobbies?

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah. But screen printing is not one of them. That's crazy.

[Ally]

I have a hobby.

[Sid]

Addiction.

[Ally]

Addiction. Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

What's the current hobby right now?

[Ally]

Well, it was painting.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[Ally]

Which I told you about before. That was in cross stitch.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[Ally]

And then before that, coloring.

[Kelly Stafford]

Coloring in what time?

[Sid]

Labeling.

[Ally]

I really love the labels.

[Sid]

Well, Sid stopped bringing her kids on away trips and was like.

[Ally]

Yeah. Because they're in school. And I'm like. Like, it's kind of like.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah.

[Sid]

So then she wanted to pick up hobbies, and then now she just games on her switch.

[Ally]

Yeah. Or I got an Xbox.

[Sid]

Okay.

[Kelly Stafford]

Are you in my room?

[Ally]

I'm a gamer.

[Sid]

But she also just sleeps. So she thinks she's gonna spend all this time doing these fun things that she doesn't have time for when the kids are around. But actually, she just catches up on all of her sleep.

[Ally]

No, I'm sleeping, like, 10, 11 hours.

[Sid]

She puts a scary show on a.

[Kelly Stafford]

Scary show, which she doesn't like.

[Sid]

I can't do it.

[Ally]

I love true crime. I love.

[Sid]

And for me, if there's murder, there has to be consensual sex.

[Ally]

Yeah. We talked about this last. Last episode.

[Kelly Stafford]

I have another question now. Do you have to share rooms?

[Sid]

Yes, we do.

[Ally]

You know what, though? I would rather it, but it should be a choice.

[Sid]

I think it should be a choice because I have had roommates who snore, and then it's like, you can forget about it. I'm exhausted the next day.

[Ally]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sid]

So that's one thing we. We are fighting for, like, single occupancy rooms and charters because we fly economy to our games on the other side of the country.

[Ally]

Yeah. We used to sit next to the toilets in the back, but things have gotten better.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah.

[Sid]

Don't have to do Southwest ridiculous, but.

[Kelly Stafford]

You got to do Southwest.

[Sid]

Did. Did.

[Ally]

Yeah. Okay, so we're all over the place. Yeah.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[Ally]

Stuff. Stuff.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

Go, like, through security like you do. Lax security.

[Sid]

Yep. We're there, like, three hours before. Got to come out from. Come from the Valley.

[Ally]

Do the whole thing. Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

Okay. Well, I know that women's basketball has fought for it, but I feel like now we're trying.

[Ally]

Yeah, we fought every fight there is to fight, and we still are. So I think there's a lot of work to be done. Obviously, it's better than it was, but it still has a long way to go. Motherhood is on the salary cap.

[Kelly Stafford]

Is what is on salary cap.

[Ally]

What do you mean? So if, like, anything like. Like travel with. For the kids and stuff is now all on the salary cap, so it counts against your team if you're a mom. And that's what, like, I've really been trying to fight because I'm like, first of all, you, like, this game is like the national women's soccer league, and you don't want to have moms. Like, you're going to make it more difficult on us.

[Kelly Stafford]

Wait, that's crazy.

[Ally]

No, it's insane.

[Kelly Stafford]

So they have. We got deductions, travel and rooms for the kids.

[Ally]

Well, they. They don't anymore because. Well, I guess we're. We're in talks with changing some things, but I'm like, if you can make small adjustments, you can make big ones.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah. And, like, do you guys have, like, the NFL has an nflpa? Yeah, we do have that. Okay, so they're aware of all these things. That's. Who's hiding.

[Sid]

But we only signed our first collective bargaining agreement for this league in 2022.

[Kelly Stafford]

Oh, wow. So it's real New. Yeah. Okay. That's a good step. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Sid]

It's. I mean, obviously, people like Sid with her platform and, like, the collective group. We are fighting for these things.

[Kelly Stafford]

Same.

[Sid]

I mean, the W has been a lot around a lot longer than the nwsl. They're finally getting big changes, and them getting those changes does help us. Like, we are all. We're all connected and. And trying to bring awareness and find ways to make changes as quickly as possible. Because we're like, the MLS was around a long time before they chartered, but, like, do we have to also wait as long? Like, if we can do it? Like, let's find a way to do it sooner. But, yeah, we are. Our PA is. Is amazing.

[Kelly Stafford]

Oh, good.

[Sid]

And the players are all, like, on top of it.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah.

[Sid]

Women are amazing.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah.

[Ally]

They are done.

[Kelly Stafford]

They should. They should run every. Whatever. PA or they should run everything.

[Ally]

Everything.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah, everything.

[Ally]

Excellent. Run it all.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah.

[Sid]

Okay. Do you want to do the WAG scenarios?

[Ally]

Okay. Rookie Kelly Vers. OG Kelly, how would you react then versus now?

[Kelly Stafford]

Oh, man.

[Ally]

Okay. So how would you handle drama back then? Like, okay, any type of drama with. With the girls, with the other. Any type.

[Kelly Stafford]

Probably dive right in and figure out a solution or try now. OG you're just like, I don't. I don't care. I can't go near it. Yeah. I got too much drama at home with my girls. I can't.

[Ally]

Right.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah, that's true.

[Sid]

Okay. A fan yells Matt Stafford sucks right in front of you.

[Kelly Stafford]

What do you say if you go back to San Francisco, however many years ago the pretzel. Huh? That's. That happens.

[Ally]

I know you have to apologize for it, but come on.

[Kelly Stafford]

Like, I'm doing it. Yeah, well, eventually tells y' all that whole story. It was honestly crazy. It was a no look, like, toss over my head to this guy that was yelling this big of a pretzel. This big. No salted.

[Sid]

I was hoping for the whole big. Auntie Ann girl.

[Kelly Stafford]

It was a piece. And he was. And he's yelling to you all. And he got right up and went straight to security.

[Ally]

And I was like, first of all, I'm embarrassed for you. You were hit by a. Bro, bro. If you're watching this now, you were hit by a little nubbin.

[Kelly Stafford]

I shouldn't have ever. You know what?

[Sid]

We know what this is from last episode.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah.

[Ally]

A micro.

[Kelly Stafford]

Oh, man.

[Ally]

And you went to security.

[Kelly Stafford]

Right? To security. And I. Yeah, that was. That was how I handled it four years ago. Five years ago. Now, I don't say Because I just.

[Ally]

Feel like, bring me to again.

[Kelly Stafford]

It. Okay, great. Yeah. I'll see you next week. Like, come at me now. I don't say shit.

[Ally]

I got you.

[Kelly Stafford]

Thank you.

[Ally]

I got everyone in it.

[Kelly Stafford]

Now I will say, you say something about my girls. I'm going to say something. And that's happened. So what?

[Ally]

Oh, yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

And it's. It's not like. It's just little stuff where I'll just turn around, just look at me. Like, really?

[Ally]

What do they say?

[Kelly Stafford]

Because I. I mean, they'll look at them and just be like, well, you're dead. Sucks. And they're like, oh, my. Just like little people. It's it again. It is not. I understand. Fans are like, really into this game.

[Ally]

Chill.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yes. And I told my girls, if anyone says that to you, you can look back and you say you suck. Like, I'm done with the whole stand up for yourself.

[Ally]

Wow. I always say that to my kids. Don't let anyone.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah. And I probably not like the best parenting advice, but it's the only advice I have for that scenario. When a grown adult is saying something like that to a child. Like, don't get upset. Fire back. Like, I. I don't know what else to say.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

So, yeah, I agree.

[Sid]

Wait, am I just so nice? I can't believe people do that. Like, I can't.

[Kelly Stafford]

It's like. But it's like the.

[Sid]

It's like the scum of the earth.

[Kelly Stafford]

And honestly, it's when we go to away games and I. And I sit in the. I sit with everybody.

[Sid]

Oh, yeah.

[Ally]

Because you guys don't have.

[Kelly Stafford]

So like. And I enjoy sitting in that. Like, it makes. I always feel like it gets the adrenaline. Like it's. I actually prefer it to where we sit at Sofi. Obviously at Sofi it's just easier. But every away game I go to, I like to be in the mix.

[Ally]

Do you guys go to all away games or no?

[Kelly Stafford]

No. Now that his career is coming closer to an end, I'm starting to go more. I love away games, though, because I like sit in my couch with my PJs and I'm like, girl games on.

[Ally]

A little shopping.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah. Like, it's a slow morning, little breakfast. For sure. Home games, it's like you wake up and it's time to go. So.

[Ally]

Yeah. All day event.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah, for sure. But fans are crazy. Y' all get it. You know it. Fans can be. They just. And you. There's one bad egg right. Amongst however many. So, yeah. I try to remind myself the crazy.

[Ally]

Fans aren't the real fans.

[Kelly Stafford]

No.

[Ally]

Like, that's not a real fan. You're just like, yes. A little weird in there.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah. And honestly, everyone told me Philly fans were horrible because we were going for that playoff game, and I enjoyed them. Like, I really like them. Yes. And I could see, like, if you were. If you played for Philly or if you were in, like, that would be. Yeah.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

You'd be like, our fans are the best.

[Ally]

Yeah, I've heard that about.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah. Silly Sports General. They were. They were very kind to all of us. Now we lost. If we won, maybe they wouldn't be. So. They were. They were very nice. I found that very interesting. We were at the Lions. Everyone was really nice, and I was like, I know why you're nice. Okay. We keep losing.

[Ally]

What's your favorite place to go and what's your least favorite place?

[Kelly Stafford]

Like NFL?

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

Favorite place to go from here. I mean, like, I'll say from when we were in Detroit. Green Bay. I loved it. I love the feeling of Green Bay. It's just very old school football. I hated the Bears. I loved going to Chicago. But, yeah, the shopping's unreal. Yeah. Yeah. Bears fans are tough. Yeah. And then here, like, I. I won't go to San Fran. I do love Seattle.

[Ally]

I love.

[Kelly Stafford]

I think Seattle's.

[Ally]

Yeah, I love Seattle.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah. And Arizona is fun. So.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah, those are. Those are probably the hits and misses.

[Sid]

Okay, so rookie Kelly, with your relationship, like, newly married versus now, what have you learned in your relationship? Like, what is different? Obviously, now? Four children. Yes.

[Ally]

What would you tell yourself before you got into all of this? Like, if you could go back before everything, what would you tell yourself?

[Kelly Stafford]

I would tell myself to relax. That you're in love with him, he's in love with you. Like, it took a while. Okay. We. We started dating at the end of college. I moved out there at 19, which is mind blowing to think about, like child, and was kind of already pressuring, like, hey, I moved. Get this done. And it kind of like, it hurt our relationship big time there.

[Ally]

Did you ever go on a break or.

[Kelly Stafford]

No, no, no. But there was also just, like, I had a lack of confidence in myself in a way. When I got. And I wasn't thrown into it. I moved up there. I was his girlfriend. And in Detroit, everyone knows the. The players and whoever they are with. And it never felt like I was good enough for. To be with him.

[Ally]

Well, you're under a microscope all the time.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yes. And. And to be honest, everything that I Did. Wore what I looked like was never, you know, good enough. And that was really hard for me. And so looking at myself now, or, like, if I could tell myself something is just relax. Like, first of all, the one you are trying to impress loves you for who you are and what you look like and everything, and the people that you're trying to change yourself for don't matter.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

So.

[Ally]

Exactly.

[Sid]

Good advice for anybody. I would say.

[Kelly Stafford]

It. It was it. And honestly, it took me a long time. Yeah. You know, and I will. I do think I went through something in 2019 that really kind of turned the tables for our relationship and my family and slowed us down and made us, like, realize, like, what actually was important. Yeah. So I would say, like, that was the main turn where. And that was 2019. He was 10 years in.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

10 years of me, like, wondering if I was ever good enough to be with this man. Wow. So.

[Ally]

But you also have to think, like, he's got to be good enough for you.

[Kelly Stafford]

I. And. And. And he is, and I am good enough. It's like, no matter how many times, like, you shouldn't have to tell each other that all the time by any.

[Ally]

Means, but it's hard when you're, like.

[Kelly Stafford]

In the public eye 100%. And I. And I kind of blamed. I was like, the reason I'm in the public eye is because of you. And so I need you. I need your confidence boost. I need. And. And I need you to make me, whatever it might be. And he finally looked at me. I remember it, like, vividly, and he was like, you have to be happy first. I can't make you happy. You have to be happy with yourself first. Like, and that was. That was big for me, like, to hear. So it's true. Especially coming from him, the person I loved most. He was like, I love you, and you know that. Yeah. But, like, if you have to be happy with whatever you're doing. With who? Like, whoever you want to be before, I, like, I can't do that for you. You know, I can support you and. And all things and love you, but I can't, like, specifically and solely make you happy. So. Yeah. It's interesting.

[Ally]

How do you keep your marriage alive now?

[Kelly Stafford]

I mean, I spice it up on date nights.

[Sid]

Yes.

[Ally]

What is that, you wonder?

[Kelly Stafford]

Nothing.

[Ally]

Absolutely nothing. Just lips in the air. Absolutely not. Not after kids.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah. Definitely not.

[Ally]

Can't do that.

[Kelly Stafford]

I mean, yeah, we try. We date each other. You know, I. One of the things we always talk about, too, is how important it is to show our girls what that looks like. And so the girls get upset because it's every Monday during the season. They're going on a date again. And we all were like, listen, you want to be happy? Mommy and daddy have to make sure they're happy too. And, like, we have to have time to connect and do all that. So you get to see your relationship, which is.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

And they.

[Ally]

And they show us how to be loved and to love and.

[Kelly Stafford]

And like, to do that, you have to spend time with one another and not with the kids as well. Like. And we, you know, we went down that road and finally were like, shit, we got to, like, get time for ourselves for sure. So, yeah, we. We date. We, you know, I don't know, switch things up. We do. We have some fun. So, yeah, it's all. It's all good.

[Ally]

We're. What. What one. What sentence are you most likely to use? I'm tired, I have a headache or my stomach hurts.

[Kelly Stafford]

What scenario are we talking about? You know, I'm honest and I just say I'm tired. I do.

[Ally]

Yeah. I pull. I. I like to pull out the.

[Kelly Stafford]

I feel like, stomach ache.

[Sid]

That's hours before you already know.

[Ally]

Like, you know, I'm like, I know.

[Sid]

But then if. If things change, you're like, oh, I feel better.

[Ally]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I've already made up my mind.

[Kelly Stafford]

It's like a smart power play right there. I never thought of it.

[Ally]

I put no expectations already. Starting in the morning.

[Kelly Stafford]

You remind me of my sister. My sister always. She's like, yeah, it's not tonight. I. Bad tacos.

[Sid]

I'm like, yeah, no, no, you put the retainers in. Yeah, that's like. I know that that's more last minute than saying early in the morning that you have a headache.

[Ally]

You gotta start early.

[Sid]

But you put the. I got the big night guard. You know, you're like, right, it's over the earplugs, eye mask. It's pretty obvious.

[Ally]

Please.

[Kelly Stafford]

You sleep with earplugs?

[Sid]

He snores like train.

[Ally]

Do you sleep with earplugs with me now?

[Sid]

I have to all the time.

[Kelly Stafford]

Do I. I don't like the plain ones. Like silicone.

[Sid]

No, like the full. Like, I can swim laps in them. Like.

[Kelly Stafford]

No, they're like water, air.

[Sid]

Nothing is good.

[Kelly Stafford]

Oh, they're noise canceling all around. Yeah.

[Sid]

I've been told that maybe you can't use those when you have children. So I'm enjoying. Like, I think you want to be able to hear something if you.

[Kelly Stafford]

Or do you Want to hear it?

[Sid]

Right? Like.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah, you got it. You got your husband right there. Yeah.

[Sid]

I don't know.

[Ally]

He doesn't.

[Sid]

Yeah, he can't hear anything, so one.

[Kelly Stafford]

Of us has to. You know, I'm pretty sure Matthew just acts like he can't hear anything.

[Ally]

No, I think he.

[Sid]

My dad does.

[Kelly Stafford]

The girls will be shaking him. He's just like, yeah, yeah, I know you can.

[Sid]

Oh, no, he's awake.

[Ally]

You're awake. Like, I know.

[Kelly Stafford]

It's a good play, though.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

Like, I wish I did that. Well, I think he knows now.

[Ally]

Yeah, you should just. You hear it. Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

You know what? The. The biggest power play he's played or done is he has told me that he doesn't know how to load a dishwasher correctly, so I did that too. It works. It works because honestly, I'm type A with it too. So if you. I'm like, yeah. Why do you have a bowl facing. Oh, yeah, right. Who can.

[Ally]

I have all of the.

[Kelly Stafford]

It just collects them.

[Sid]

I don't redo it anymore because he would redo it every time. So now I can just leave them. Genius.

[Kelly Stafford]

That's smart.

[Ally]

I need to get the kids to learn how to. I know it.

[Kelly Stafford]

Then they break everything.

[Ally]

Hello. All right. Can we talk about summer break for a second? Yes, it's fun. And yes, the kids are living their best life, but it's also kind of unhinged.

[Sid]

Oh, truly. No routine. Way too much screen time, and a whole lot of I'm bored energy.

[Ally]

And as a mom, I've seen how easy it is for kids to fall behind with reading.

[Sid]

That's why we love that Macy's is teaming up with Reading is Fundamental and Nami. They're making it easier to keep kids reading and feeling supported all summer.

[Ally]

Now through September 14th, you can round up your purchase in store or donate online at Macy's to help out. It takes two seconds and it actually makes a difference.

[Sid]

We love anything that helps kids head back to school feeling ready. So shout out to Macy's for doing something about it.

[Ally]

You can go to macy's.compurpose to learn more.

[Sid]

Well, speaking of parenting, Sid, we talked about Sid and her kids and motherhood, and we talked a little about gentle parenting.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah.

[Sid]

How do you feel about you parenting?

[Kelly Stafford]

No, my kids would be horrible. Well, you can tell.

[Ally]

You can tell whose kids are gentle parented.

[Kelly Stafford]

Thousand percent.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

And you end up parenting them because you have to. You have to. Yeah. Like. Like if I have kids in my house that have been gentle parented.

[Ally]

Oh, it's tough.

[Kelly Stafford]

It's really hard. And I feel like they look at me when I'm with my girl. I'm like, get your book out of the car. Yeah, Now. Now. Please.

[Ally]

And, like, I don't even say please.

[Kelly Stafford]

They're like, well, and it should be known. You. You probably asked a million times. A million times.

[Ally]

You know, get in the bath. You know how the bath. Yeah, get in the bath.

[Kelly Stafford]

Isn't it the best, though, when you see these reels of moms going, please put down the barker. Please put it. Put down the fucking. I love those.

[Ally]

Because it's honest.

[Kelly Stafford]

It is real. Like, it.

[Ally]

I. You lose it sometimes.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah.

[Ally]

You know, and I'm like, you deserve that.

[Kelly Stafford]

And. And I know there's probably so many people out there that are so mad that we're, like, even saying it because there's all these studies and whatnot, but honestly, I just feel like when I meet teenagers and above who have been gentle parented, I'm like, that's.

[Ally]

I can tell. I can tell from a mile away. I can smell them coming near me.

[Kelly Stafford]

I just wouldn't. I like, I look at them and I'm like, I wouldn't want my girls hanging out with you. So I feel like there's just like, they.

[Ally]

There's no boundaries.

[Kelly Stafford]

They get away with. They think or they think they can in my house.

[Ally]

They won't.

[Sid]

Entitlement.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah, there is entitlement.

[Ally]

The like, oh, let me get down to your level.

[Kelly Stafford]

No, you're not on my level.

[Sid]

You're not a child.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah.

[Ally]

And I'm not standing over my mom.

[Sid]

Said, I'm not your friend.

[Kelly Stafford]

Not until. Not until you're grown.

[Sid]

Exactly. You are exactly right.

[Kelly Stafford]

8. Well, maybe a little 18. Because I don't want to parent you anymore.

[Sid]

But, like, that was my.

[Kelly Stafford]

On your own. Yeah.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

Like, I. Again, you need to be parent. I was making dumbass decisions until I was 21. Yeah. Like, I needed to be parented.

[Ally]

My mom was a single mom as well, and.

[Kelly Stafford]

She is.

[Ally]

Sandy. We call her Hurricane Sandy. Hurricane Sandy. And yeah, it was like there was no gentle parenting. And I feel like I don't want my kids being like, oh, yeah, like, I can do anything. I am entitled. And I know that gentle parents are going to come after us by saying this, but, like, I know you do it your way, but this is my way. And that's your way.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah.

[Ally]

And like, what happens in a family is none of your business.

[Kelly Stafford]

I agree. And they can talk about our.

[Ally]

Us too, but I'm not a gentle Parent.

[Kelly Stafford]

No, I'm not either. And my mom wasn't and my grandmother wasn't, and it was the way I was raised, and I think I turned out okay. Yeah, me too.

[Ally]

I'm like, yeah, but, you know, you're a really good mom, and I know I'm a really good mom.

[Kelly Stafford]

Damn right. So.

[Ally]

So that's all that matters.

[Kelly Stafford]

I question. That's okay. I feel like everyone questions it.

[Ally]

Yeah. But, you know, the girls are obsessed.

[Kelly Stafford]

With you most days. Really? Obsessed with dad.

[Ally]

Yes.

[Kelly Stafford]

Because girls are.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

Real obsessed with dad.

[Ally]

Are you?

[Kelly Stafford]

And, like, Dad's nice.

[Ally]

You want a boy or no?

[Kelly Stafford]

Well, no, I wanted all boys, and this is very public. I've been very public about this since I've had all girls. I wanted all boys. Matthew did not because of. He just didn't want the pressures of.

[Ally]

Of course. Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

Like what you were saying earlier. He didn't want it, and he was like, my girls can be anything they want to be.

[Ally]

Yeah. No, I love that. Rue is nothing like me.

[Sid]

Well said. She fights Cash has got half. I think Ru got all. Got the rest.

[Ally]

Yeah. But she didn't get any of the fierce.

[Kelly Stafford]

She's.

[Sid]

Yeah, that was Cassius. She's fierce, she's sassy, she loves makeup.

[Ally]

Oh, no. This girl is probably 26. In her mind, she will come into, like. She comes in and she'll be like, oh, you know, the girls. She calls them the girls. Like our teammates. She goes, the girls really miss me. I know it. I should come. I should come to practice.

[Kelly Stafford]

Wait. I love her.

[Ally]

Oh, she's, like, the best.

[Sid]

All right, we're gonna do a quick fire.

[Ally]

Yes.

[Sid]

Happy hour. Okay. Okay, so some rapid fire BFFR questions. Tell us the first thing that comes to mind.

[Ally]

Worst NFL fans, 49ers. All right. Most embarrassing thing you've ever yelled at a ref or tweeted about a ref.

[Kelly Stafford]

Or said something about a ref or player or player. Ooh. Never about a player. I know my boundaries there. Refs. Oh, God. I mean, I've said there's a lot of.

[Ally]

There's lots of things to say.

[Kelly Stafford]

It's an easy target. They're easy targets to take your frustration out on. Like, Matthew throws a pick, and I'm like, that was a. That was a late hit. Come on. Like.

[Ally]

And then you're like, maybe it was a pick.

[Kelly Stafford]

Maybe threw it to the wrong team. Like, it happens. We make mistakes.

[Sid]

I'm like, that never happens.

[Kelly Stafford]

They know it never happens. Reason he did that is because he got hit late, you know? No, I I, I mean, yeah, they're easy targets. I don't remember, like, a specific thing I've said, but I do talk a lot. As much as I can.

[Ally]

Refs hate to see me coming.

[Kelly Stafford]

I, I can imagine they do. Like, just, just sitting here with you. I can, I could see that. It's not a bad thing.

[Ally]

Say some words, you know.

[Sid]

Okay. I don't know if this is, like, gonna be controversial, but besides, obviously you and Matthew, do you have a favorite NFL power couple?

[Kelly Stafford]

I mean, the most powerful couple. I think we can all sit here and say the same names. Travis and Taylor are very powerful. I've known the Kelsey brothers for some time, and they're awesome and their family's awesome, and I think they're very happy. And so it's great, you know, but powerful side, I think, honestly, Josh Allen and Hailee Seinfeld are.

[Ally]

You know what, though? I didn't like her on that movie Sinners. I didn't like her there.

[Kelly Stafford]

You didn't?

[Ally]

No.

[Sid]

I'm surprised you noticed her considering Michael B. Jordan.

[Ally]

There was two of them. There was two of them. And I was like, wow, good for you, Haley.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yes, Good for you, Haley.

[Sid]

We all want to do it.

[Ally]

Yeah, we all want to be you, Haley.

[Kelly Stafford]

And Josh is like, I know everyone wants to be here, and no one wants to be here when she's with me. Damn it. No, I, but I, I, I. Josh is a really good guy. I like him. But yeah, those two. I also think Patrick and Brittany Mahomes are pretty powerful in the NFL.

[Sid]

Okay, you've got a whole day. No kids.

[Ally]

No, I said no day. A whole week. Give her a week.

[Sid]

Okay. What? What are you doing?

[Kelly Stafford]

Oh, my God. I don't even know. I've never been gifted that. Wow. Honestly, probably finding a ranch somewhere and I mean, laying low. Bringing in a massage therapist and a facialist. I don't want to go anywhere. I don't want to see anyone watching all my shows because Matthew takes over the tv. It's really annoying.

[Ally]

You gotta, you gotta, like, I mean, into the same shows.

[Kelly Stafford]

We like, we are. But then he'll pass out and I'll have to, like, re. Watch it every night.

[Ally]

Oh, this is.

[Kelly Stafford]

Is this what you go through?

[Ally]

I'm the one that. That's what Sid does. Yeah. I passed out.

[Sid]

She's out.

[Kelly Stafford]

I'm jealous of that. That's Matthew, too. And then I'm watching the show by myself.

[Ally]

I make her watch what I want.

[Sid]

To watch, and I'm watching by myself.

[Ally]

Yes.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah. And so when he puts on his shows, which is fine. They're still good shows. There's a lot does he like. But there's a lot of learning involved in his shows. Thank you. My brain is.

[Sid]

He falls asleep, he's out.

[Kelly Stafford]

And I'm like, sometimes I've taken a little edible, too, and it's really mind blowing.

[Ally]

Whoa.

[Kelly Stafford]

Like, I can't go to sleep. I'm like, wow. Yeah.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

And this snoring. So, I mean. But yes, I would watch all my shows. I would go to bed early. I'd have a chai latte when I woke up. I mean, this never happens. What else?

[Sid]

Yeah, what else? Mommy, Mommy.

[Kelly Stafford]

I would Uber eats like a cheeseburger. I mean, just like such. I mean, I would probably gain £15.

[Ally]

It is. My mom has the kids right now, and it's beautiful. I didn't leave the house for, what, three days?

[Kelly Stafford]

That's nice. Do you ever get bored when they're not here?

[Ally]

I do.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah.

[Ally]

But I'm like, I'll take it.

[Kelly Stafford]

You know, they're coming back.

[Ally]

Yeah. And it's not forever. Yeah. They overpower me, the both of them. But I. I actually have, like, amazing teammates who, like, help. I love that.

[Sid]

Okay, this is Sid's very creative question.

[Ally]

Someone created a cocktail with your personality. What would be in it?

[Kelly Stafford]

That's a good question. Okay. I like. I like mint, but I like spicy, too, since a little. That's questionable because spicy, I would say it's like, for me, like, I'm spicy. Yeah. I'm a little feisty, but mint is always refreshing. I would love to. I don't know if I am refreshing.

[Ally]

But I would love to. You're refreshing to us.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[Kelly Stafford]

Thank you.

[Sid]

Definitely.

[Kelly Stafford]

But on my podcast, we always drink vodka sodas with a splash of cranberries. So that's. That's probably a double. Yes.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sid]

And then we're gonna drink mint and spice.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah, sure. Somehow that's you. I don't know. Just, like, around and then blend it. Yeah. Make it a slushy. And we're all good.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sid]

Okay. Well, we do have to wrap, but I feel like this is going to continue. This friendship is just beginning.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yes. We gotta get the kids together. I'm in. I mean, they're all the same ages. I don't know why we wouldn't.

[Ally]

I know.

[Kelly Stafford]

All right, well, I'm gonna bring them to society.

[Ally]

I don't really have a lot of mom friends, so.

[Kelly Stafford]

Well, I'm. Yeah.

[Ally]

You know. Yeah, this is. I don't really have mom friends. I have like a couple from school.

[Kelly Stafford]

But you'll like mine too. They don't. Gentle parent.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sid]

Yes.

[Ally]

I can't. We all can't.

[Sid]

Okay, well, thank you, Kelly, for joining us. That is a wrap on this week's episode of the BFFR show. You can follow her podcast the Morning after at the Morning After Underscore Media.

[Ally]

I like that.

[Sid]

Just rolls off the tongue.

[Kelly Stafford]

Didn't even know that's what it was, but here we go.

[Ally]

We were also talking about our emails when we were younger. Do you have an email?

[Kelly Stafford]

Oh, my God, no. But I had. I had like the AOL and the AIM. What was your screen name? Sports Blondie. Like 86.

[Sid]

Sports Blondie 86.

[Kelly Stafford]

Hit her up.

[Sid]

And you were.

[Ally]

Yeah, I was Caramello baby with two.

[Sid]

Eyes and crazed Asian555 signing out from the studio.

[Ally]

And I'm like, what, Caramel baby? You can call me that. From now on.

[Sid]

Make sure you're subscribed to Caramello baby and crazed Asian555 and BFFR on YouTube.

[Ally]

Blondie. Sports Blondie. But look, 86. Yes.

[Sid]

Sports Blondie 69 and 88.

[Kelly Stafford]

Yeah, whatever one.

[Ally]

Whatever one. It's all the same.

[Sid]

Make sure you subscribe Apple podcasts, Tick.

[Kelly Stafford]

Tock, Instagram, Instagram, wherever you get, wherever.

[Ally]

You get to listen to us, period.

[Sid]

And we'll see you next Monday.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sid]

Crazed Asian 555 out.

[Ally]

Caramello baby, underscore out.

[Kelly Stafford]

Sports chick 69 out.