Olivia Maher Talks Girl Dinner, Being Ilona’s Sistager, Dating, & Is Bush Back?!

Summary

BFFR with Sydney Leroux & Ali Riley
Episode: Olivia Mar Talks Girl Dinner, Being Ilona’s Sistager, Dating, & Is Bush Back?!
Release Date: August 11, 2025

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Welcome and Guest Introduction (00:39 - 01:35)

In the latest episode of BFFR, hosts Sydney Leroux and Ali Riley warmly welcome their special guest, Olivia Mar, known for creating the viral sensation Girl Dinner and being part of the comedic trio House of Mar. Sydney expresses admiration for Olivia’s style, saying, “I love your shirt” at [01:31], highlighting the friendly and engaging atmosphere of the show.

Behind the Scenes at the ESPYs (02:11 - 05:01)

Olivia shares her exciting experience at the ESPYs, where her sister Alona received a nomination for rugby—a first for the sport. She recounts the hectic logistics of flying Alona in from the East Coast, managing her wardrobe, and ensuring everything was perfect for the event. Olivia reflects on her pride, stating, “I was so proud of her. I was...so proud of her” at [03:32]. The hosts discuss the anticipation around Alona's acceptance speech, with Ali affirming, “She can do it” at [04:00].

Introduction to House of Mar Podcast (06:03 - 08:02)

Olivia delves into her own podcast, House of Mar, which she co-hosts with her sisters. She describes it as “basically our group chat out loud” at [08:42], emphasizing the natural chemistry and camaraderie among the siblings. Olivia highlights the podcast’s focus on women’s topics, sports, and personal anecdotes, aiming to create a sense of family and community for listeners.

Concept and Impact of Girl Dinner (23:05 - 31:03)

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to Girl Dinner, a term Olivia coined to describe a casual, unstructured meal primarily composed of assorted snacks and leftovers. Olivia narrates the genesis of the concept, sharing how a spontaneous TikTok video about her own improvised meal went viral, leading to widespread recognition and media coverage. She explains, “Girl dinner is...picking through my fridge in my cabinet, eating bits and bobs of whatever I'm feeling” at [24:15]. The hosts and Olivia discuss the cultural impact, including reactions and misconceptions, such as debates over gendering meals and concerns about disordered eating. Olivia defends the concept by promoting intuitive eating, stating, “You are fueling yourself with whatever your body is telling you” at [31:39].

Dating in Los Angeles and Personal Preferences (32:07 - 41:10)

The conversation shifts to dating dynamics in LA, where Olivia shares her experiences and challenges. She emphasizes the importance of being open and authentic, mentioning her reluctance to rely solely on dating apps. Ali and Sydney offer their insights, discussing characteristics and non-negotiables in potential partners. Olivia contemplates the idea of approaching someone directly, pondering opening lines like, “Hey, I'm Livy. What's up?” at [38:20]. The dialogue highlights the importance of communication, mutual respect, and personal connection in relationships.

Recession Bush and Grooming Trends (44:04 - 46:38)

In a humorous segment, the hosts and Olivia explore the trend of “recession bush”, where individuals grow out their pubic hair as a cost-saving measure during economic downturns. Olivia explains the phenomenon, saying, “It's like, you're not spending as much on grooming products...you just let it go full” at [44:36]. They debate the practicality and aesthetics of this trend, sharing personal anecdotes about waxing and hair removal experiences. The conversation underscores societal pressures and personal choices around body grooming.

Audience Q&A: Navigating Awkward Dates (51:17 - 55:26)

Towards the end of the episode, Olivia joins Sydney and Ali to address a voicemail from a listener named Erin, who seeks advice on handling a disappointing date. The hosts and Olivia offer varied perspectives on dealing with underwhelming dates, emphasizing honest communication and setting clear expectations. Olivia suggests, “If you could tell them, like, I'm not feeling our last date... Was everything okay?” at [54:30], advocating for open dialogue to prevent misunderstandings and foster better connections.

Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts (55:27 - End)

As the episode winds down, the hosts express their gratitude to Olivia for her insightful contributions. They encourage listeners to follow her House of Mar podcast and stay connected through social media. Olivia signs off with warmth, promising more engaging content in future episodes.

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Notable Quotes

• Ali Riley [01:00]: “Five stars. Five stars.”
• Olivia Mar [03:32]: “I was so proud of her. I was...so proud of her.”
• Olivia Mar [08:42]: “Basically our group chat out loud.”
• Olivia Mar [24:15]: “Girl dinner is...picking through my fridge in my cabinet, eating bits and bobs of whatever I'm feeling.”
• Olivia Mar [31:39]: “You are fueling yourself with whatever your body is telling you.”
• Olivia Mar [38:20]: “Hey, I'm Livy. What's up?”
• Olivia Mar [44:36]: “It's like, you're not spending as much on grooming products...you just let it go full.”
• Olivia Mar [54:30]: “Was everything okay?”

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Key Takeaways

• Personal Pride and Sibling Support: Olivia’s heartfelt pride in Alona’s achievements at the ESPYs underscores the strength of sibling bonds and mutual support within athletic families.

• Authenticity in Content Creation: The success of Girl Dinner illustrates the power of authentic, relatable content in resonating with a broad audience and sparking cultural conversations.

• Navigating Modern Dating: The discussion highlights the complexities of dating in a high-profile city like LA, emphasizing the need for clear communication and genuine connections.

• Cultural Trends and Personal Choices: The exploration of recession bush reflects societal shifts in grooming practices influenced by economic factors, showcasing personal autonomy in body choices.

• Community and Connection: Through House of Mar and BFFR, the hosts and Olivia emphasize the importance of fostering community, whether through family podcasts or engaging listener interactions.

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For those who haven’t listened to this episode yet, BFFR with Sydney Leroux & Ali Riley offers a blend of humor, heartfelt discussions, and insightful conversations with notable guests like Olivia Mar. Whether you’re interested in sports, personal growth, or cultural phenomena, this episode provides a rich and engaging listen.

Transcript

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sid]

Wait. Now that you said that, I just realized that, like, my friends who I don't know from soccer.

[Ally]

I've never seen your boob.

[Sid]

We. We have had no reason to see each other naked. I've never really thought about that.

[Olivia Mar]

Have a couple of these and get to know each other.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

It's an important thing which friends are judgmental. Which. Which ones.

[Sid]

Oh, my gosh. Yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

So I've had ones of those.

[Sid]

My amazing friends listening to this who.

[Olivia Mar]

Get ready to show your nips. Yeah.

[Sid]

Hello.

[Olivia Mar]

What?

[Ally]

Welcome to another episode of BFFR with Ally and me.

[Sid]

Sid, make sure you're following the show. BFFR show on all of the socials, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, TikTok. You'll find us rate and review, do the things.

[Ally]

Five stars. Five stars.

[Sid]

We are so excited because this is a good one. We have an amazing guest and she's here in person. So, like, we're getting straight into it. You might know her as the creator behind Girl Dinner or one third of the hilarious trio House of Mar. But she is our lovely, gorgeous style, stunning, hilarious guest Olivia Mar. Welcome to the show, you guys.

[Olivia Mar]

Thank you. I loved that.

[Sid]

I love your shirt.

[Olivia Mar]

Hi. Thank you so much. I wore it because of you guys.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

Well, little martinis.

[Sid]

Hello. Extra dirty.

[Olivia Mar]

That's. This one says extra dirty.

[Sid]

Like all of us, you know exactly what to. What to wear. We're also, like.

[Olivia Mar]

We have.

[Sid]

We went straight into happy hour.

[Olivia Mar]

Sorry. Not sorry. Amazing.

[Ally]

I had to make another batch.

[Olivia Mar]

True.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sid]

I've was a little. Little thirsty.

[Olivia Mar]

It's a watermelon martini.

[Sid]

You made it in what jar this time, Sid?

[Olivia Mar]

D d know what kind.

[Ally]

Hydrating watermelon juice, which is turkey lasagna soup.

[Sid]

Yeah, I don't. I don't always like knowing what was in that vessel before our drink, but thank you, Sid. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers.

[Olivia Mar]

Thank you so much for having me.

[Sid]

Actually, we. We kind of just saw you at the ESPYs.

[Olivia Mar]

Yes. That was fun.

[Sid]

How was your morning night at the ESPYs?

[Olivia Mar]

I had the best time. I had the best time. I mean, it was a bit stressful because Alona flew in, like, that morning. She flew overnight. She's been in, you know, world. You know, rugby World cup camp over on the east coast. So we had to fly her in for this because it was the ESPYs. Like, she's been nominated. Rugby has never been nominated before.

[Ally]

We.

[Olivia Mar]

We needed to make this happen. It was funny. It was actually our dad that was the one that was like, oh, you need to be there because she's obviously in, like, rugby competition mode, you know, preparing for the world stage in this way. But my dad was like, you need to be there. A lot of people care a lot about the sbs. It's like, it's a big deal. She was like, okay. Flew her in. So it was basically the logistics of Alona's getting in. I was managing all of, like, the clothing from her stylist that was getting shipped in and jewelry and everything. I was even, like, other options were being sent in, and I was, like, trying them on for her and sending her videos. But we have very different, like, yeah. Rack sizes, and so she said she.

[Ally]

Was gonna wear my dress.

[Olivia Mar]

Yes. So she had literally the dress that you. That was, like, one of her other. Other.

[Ally]

No one saw the dress. I'm gonna wear it next year. Oh, perfect.

[Olivia Mar]

Perfect. And she will, too. There you go. So it was fun. I was so proud of her. I was. It was almost the same thing at, like, the Olympics when she won bronze. I was like. My body was, like, moving. Like, I was crying, but no tears were coming out. I was just so proud of her. I just. No one more deserving, really.

[Sid]

Did you have an inkling? Like, did you have a good feeling? I had a good feeling.

[Olivia Mar]

I mean, like, I hope so. Did you have a good feeling? I hope to, but when. When the first couple awards were given out and the first. The winner had their acceptance speech on the teleprompter, I was like, yeah. Oh, no, she didn't. We didn't. Does that mean she didn't win? Like, that's in my brain. Like, oh, they didn't tell her ahead of time. They didn't. She didn't get to give her a script. That means she didn't win. But I was like, no, no. We're holding on to hope. Like, it's all good.

[Ally]

Well, she can do it.

[Olivia Mar]

She did it.

[Ally]

She can do it.

[Sid]

I was wondering about the telepr, because I, too, was like, okay, so if you're nominated, you, like, is that getting a little ahead of yourself, or is that just being prepared?

[Olivia Mar]

No, you know, exactly. Because you want to jinx it. Right. But better to be prepared.

[Sid]

Yeah, but you could tell when they were reading it.

[Ally]

Tell the person or the, like, team.

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah. That you won.

[Ally]

Yeah, not us.

[Sid]

But they must. Yeah. Because I. Yeah, I asked Rhianne as well, and she said no. We had no idea.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

I wish a bit of it now, but it was more fun in that moment. Yield that exhilaration. So in our fun little moment when her name was called. And we stood up and we were like, oh. In my head, I was like, oh, we should hug. I'm like, I don't want to. I don't want to miss anything up on this outfit. We don't need any slippage anyway. A little too. I'm gonna give her a cute little iconic, like, fit check. Give her her handwritten speech and she can get up there. So it was great.

[Ally]

So sweet.

[Olivia Mar]

It was fab. And then we after partied it all together.

[Sid]

I know, I know. Oh, that was.

[Ally]

The food was unreal.

[Sid]

Yeah, we loved the food.

[Olivia Mar]

Sid really like the food.

[Ally]

That's why I took no pictures. I was eating every single cuisine.

[Olivia Mar]

It was like all, like, international cuisine.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

Like different stations of it.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

Alona had to leave after, like, 35 minutes there. So we, like, we're just doing a lot.

[Sid]

She's working the room.

[Olivia Mar]

And then she had to leave that night again. So we saw you guys, hung with you was like, let her do her thing.

[Sid]

So is it true that she wasn't originally going to present?

[Olivia Mar]

That's not. Yeah, that's true. She wasn't supposed to present, but she did, I think, such a great job with her acceptance speech off the cuff with what she had, you know, her little handwritten thing that the person that was supposed to present that award was stuck in traffic or something.

[Sid]

Like, la, la.

[Olivia Mar]

That's the most LA thing I've seen. But, like, leave it to a woman to step up and step in. And I think they just saw how great she was and natural. And she was great on TV with Dancing the stars and everything. Like, she's a performer, she's an entertainer. And they gave her. They. I think they changed the script really fast. They had it printed out. They showed her what the teleprompter would look like. They were like, stage left, enter here, step over there. And she was like, okay. And she great. She did great.

[Ally]

Yeah, she did. Yeah, she was great.

[Sid]

Well, you are all great at being on tv, being in front of the camera, off the cuff, everything you're doing. We'll get into girl dinner a little bit later, but tell us about House of Mar. I mean, you're killing it.

[Olivia Mar]

I was so excited to come here too, because it's the first time I've been in person for a podcast. I've done a couple of other, like, virtual podcasts.

[Ally]

It's not the same Talk Girl.

[Olivia Mar]

It's not the same.

[Sid]

No, this is way more fun.

[Olivia Mar]

Way more fun. And like, having done our own and having Done. You know, having in person guests in the studio. The energy is so exciting. And I just, like, know that we all vibe. So I was like, I just sit on the cute chairs and like, drink our drinks. But yes, House of Mar is the podcast I have with my sisters. Our last name famously is Mar. Rhymes with star. People love saying Mayor Meer. None of those.

[Sid]

It's more my hair.

[Olivia Mar]

My hair. I got a mohair one time and.

[Ally]

I was like, let's mo hair.

[Olivia Mar]

We're going to also talk about that.

[Sid]

About hair. Hair down there. We'll talk about that later.

[Olivia Mar]

Yes, we are.

[Ally]

We are.

[Olivia Mar]

Perfect. My favorite topic. Are we showing bush?

[Ally]

Yeah. Well, that's what we're. That's what we're gonna figure out to the next level.

[Sid]

Bffr.

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah, that's what it stands for. Bushes Forever. For real?

[Ally]

Bushes for real.

[Olivia Mar]

Bushes for real. No, it's a. My two sisters and I, alone, and Adriana. I'm the oldest. Alona, rugby player, Olympian icon, middle child, and Adriana, humanitarian, nonprofit, social justice girly, the youngest. And we just get on there and we yap about women's things, talk about women's sports, we talk about bushes, we talk about what's going on and all the best things.

[Sid]

The best thing, sports and bushes.

[Olivia Mar]

It's serious. And we find ourselves accidentally being inspirational, but also, like, so funny and just having a good time in the way that only sisters can really, like, play off of one another. And I don't know, it's just like, it's so fun. And I'm glad that we've brought it to, like, a greater audience. And all these other girls get to feel like they're a part of and women and people. Anybody can, like, this podcast can feel a part of the family and just giggle with us for a while.

[Ally]

Who was the one who. Who was like, we need to start this?

[Olivia Mar]

Actually, the opportunity came to alone. I like, She's. She got a lot of offers over the years to, like, do podcasts and then. But she's not. She's not never very much so been of that mindset. She just likes doing what she does. She'll pop onto a podcast here or there, she'll do interviews. But it wasn't until the idea came that was like, okay. And if your sisters were involved, she was like, okay, now we're talking. Because she knows that she can still be her. Be alone, Amar, be the athlete. And this gets to be a fun side quest that she gets to pop into and be a part of and still be building kind of who she is in her portfolio. So.

[Sid]

So is it basically just your group chat out loud?

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah, honestly, sometimes it is.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

And I bet we take notes now because I never wanted it to be the kind of thing where it's like, oh, well, I can't tell you because I'll save it for the podcast, even though it is so raw and, like, good. We are sisters. Like, I know them better than anyone. They know me better than anyone. So we do talk a lot. But it has been fun to kind of dig deeper into topics together with an audience, for sure.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[Ally]

Who's the most unhinged on the mic?

[Sid]

Yeah. Who's the Sid and who's the Ally?

[Olivia Mar]

Interesting, Interesting, interesting question. I want to say. I want to say it's me because I just will say very out of pocket things because I know it'll, like, get a giggle. And I love the dazzle. Dazzle. I love being a people pleaser. Whereas, like, Alona, she's so thoughtful. She's so careful with what she, like, said. Not careful, but she is so smart. She gets it. Like, she. She loves playing devil's advocate too. I've noticed. The most.

[Sid]

Sid's least favorite.

[Olivia Mar]

Oh, I just saw you guys are talking about this devil's advocate. I see how it works in your trio, though.

[Ally]

Yes.

[Olivia Mar]

Right.

[Ally]

Yeah, you need one.

[Olivia Mar]

You need one. I don't think she would call it being a devil's advocate, but, like, she loves being like. I don't know if that is the case because. But then. And then she'll back up with this, like, deep rooted facts and opinion where you're like, well, slap my ass. Yeah, that's. That's.

[Sid]

So take it back.

[Olivia Mar]

I never thought about it that way, but. So, yeah, I wouldn't call it devil's advocate. And then Adriana is one of the funniest people, if not like, the funniest person I know, but she's a little bit more quiet.

[Sid]

Yeah, but she's. She's very open.

[Olivia Mar]

She's very open. And now the further we've been going, the more we've been doing the podcast, the more she's opening up and the people are actually seeing how funny she is. And I just. I love it.

[Ally]

You get more comfortable as the episodes go on.

[Olivia Mar]

You really do.

[Ally]

Were you guys, like, day one? We had a lot to learn.

[Sid]

Yeah. Yeah. I think we. We were comfortable when we would do happy hour and could kind of be vibing and talk about things that had happened, but being here sitting, trying to keep the conversation going and trying to Be somewhat organized. That was different because we were used to just telling each other stories and just kind of going on and on and on. But we have to actually, you know, be a little tighter.

[Ally]

We can talk forever.

[Olivia Mar]

So it's like, yeah, do you guys hold anything back on air?

[Sid]

So I was like, yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

I'll let.

[Sid]

Sid answer that from her perspective. I was just gonna ask you, like, how are you ever afraid of being honest about certain topics? Like, are you ever afraid that that might either like kind of open Pandora's box or like get. Get criticism or just people are like, okay, that was too like tmi.

[Olivia Mar]

I don't know for sure. But also we come from a family where like, TMI doesn't really exist. We love knowing everything. Like, we talked about it on the show. We grew up with a naked mom. You know, we're very open.

[Sid]

Yeah, we talked about that.

[Olivia Mar]

Naked parents. Naked parents. Parents. Naked parents. Naked parents.

[Ally]

And now I'm a naked mom.

[Olivia Mar]

Naked kids.

[Ally]

I'm sorry, why are you coming into my space? Exactly. Leave me alone.

[Olivia Mar]

Exactly. But that's also, I think so good for them mentally growing up. They know what a woman's body looks like in. In all of its state. I just. So yes, we're very open. No, not too much. Is nothing. Is too, too tmi. But definitely like worries about being like, I am trying to date again, but I'm like, I want to share with. With. With our, you know, our audience what I'm doing, but I also don't want to be that girl that all of a sudden, you know, oh, if you're going on a date with that person, you're going to hear about it on her.

[Sid]

Exactly.

[Ally]

I never even thought of that.

[Olivia Mar]

Right.

[Sid]

Do you share everything said anyways, Slow sips. Who's the least tech savvy out of the three of you?

[Olivia Mar]

Ilona, surprisingly. Being the social media mogul that she. She's gotten better. She will figure it out. But also, yeah, she's sometimes the connecting pieces to. When it comes to technology. She refuses to think through. She just like won't do it. Whereas Audran and I can figure it out. And when it kind of. When I sort of really took over as being cystoger like Alonis manager in that way. Yeah. Acting as her. It's because we. I'd established this business, you know, email for her that would like reach her team if it was just me at the time or if it grew and she would be in there messaging, emailing brands back being like, yeah, tomorrow works. TTYL and I'D be like, I'm like, you get out of there. You know, you're not allowed to send emails anymore. And it's me being like, hello, hope you had a wonderful weekend. Like, how do. What. What is your availability between. You know, so that's definitely Alona. That's the least technologically advanced. Okay.

[Sid]

I wouldn't have expected that.

[Ally]

Have you, all three of you always been this close? Or was it different when you were growing up together alone?

[Olivia Mar]

And I have always been close because we're close in age. We are two years apart, age wise. But then we were only one grade apart because she's an August baby, I'm a September baby, so she made the cutoff and I missed it or something. Whatever.

[Sid]

Wow, you were really close.

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah, exactly. So she was always young for her grade, I was always old for my grade. But that meant we played the same sports, we were on the same sports teams, we were teammates our whole life. We had, you know, similar people and friend groups. Uh, so we were always very close, which was then kind of sad for Adriana, who was then two and a half years behind Ilona.

[Ally]

Right.

[Olivia Mar]

So then four and a half behind me, which, when you're growing up, that is a very large gap. It feels very large chasm also, because Adriana and I are very, very similar. And people say you fight more when that's the case, you know, because they are a mirror to your own flaws. I've never said it like that before. That was deeply beautiful.

[Sid]

So poetic.

[Olivia Mar]

It was, love you, Dre. So her and I did fight a lot growing up. Like, we were at each other's throats, which I hate now to remember how much we fought. There were also beautiful moments. There's, like, beautiful photos of us just being, like, super cute and cuddly. But that's my dog. Like, that's my homegirl. That is my sweet chicken, whatever the terms are. Like, Adriana and I, because we're now so similar as adults and as people who, like, know how to better respect someone or appreciate them for their differences and their similarities. We get along so well. So always close. Like, our family is so big on connection conversation. We sat down at the dinner table every single night growing up. Like, yeah, it was our thing. It was like parents were like, mom maybe worked a 12 hour shift to the hospital, and dad, you know, worked his desk job all day. Somebody was making dinner and we were sitting down and talking about everything. So because of that, we forged, I think, incredible foundations in our relationship as siblings.

[Ally]

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[Sid]

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[Ally]

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[Sid]

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[Ally]

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[Ally]

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[Sid]

Oh my gosh. You know those players who like play for 90 minutes full sprint, tackling everybody and then after the game still somehow still have energy. And I don't mean the teenagers. I want what they're having.

[Ally]

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[Sid]

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[Ally]

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[Sid]

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[Ally]

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[Sid]

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[Ally]

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[Sid]

As a sister. Well, I met you at dancing with the Stars.

[Olivia Mar]

That was so fun.

[Sid]

Followed you, obviously. Before that you're at the Olympics and now I see you all over the place on social media going to all these cool things. Oh my gosh, the Sports Illustrated swimsuit. You were out there just doing bits, having fun. Have you had any BFF BFFR moments as a sister?

[Olivia Mar]

O like about alone or just people in general?

[Sid]

In general, people things.

[Olivia Mar]

Oh, my gosh, that's a good question. I don't know why, but my brain is gravitating to how people deal with like, levels of celebrity or don't deal with it. Well, like when they do encounter her, because she feels like everyone's best friend. Like, they know her from what she shares. Like, that's their close friend.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

So when they see her in public, it's like an automatic, like, hug, a grab or whatever. Whereas I'm like, hey, yeah, that's a stranger technically. Like, don't just, like, grab her. But we love the love. Like, it's hard to feel, like, judgmental of that because we appreciate that, you know, how much they love her and feel connected to her and whatnot. And they are the reason she's also, you know, where she is today from their love. So that's probably one where I'm like, hey, guys, hold on. Touch the little grass. Please don't just, like, touch her. You know, especially, like, safety wise. That's a big right.

[Sid]

Oh, my gosh.

[Ally]

Well, she could take them down.

[Olivia Mar]

No, exactly.

[Ally]

You don't have anything to worry about. Or I'll do it. Exactly. There you go. Period. Oh, my gosh.

[Sid]

Okay, well, so you're heading out. You're heading out to England. Oh, yeah. What are the plans?

[Olivia Mar]

Rugby World cup kicks off in August. The whole fam and I are going over. Ilona will be there already, obviously, training, playing, and then Adriana, mom, dad and I will get over there a couple of days before their first match, which is against England and which is a serious lineup. Like, it'll be a very exciting game, obviously, home country. Like a home World Cup.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

Against the usa. And I'm excited because we lived in England for the first three months of the year. We were in Bristol while Alona played there.

[Ally]

Oh, okay.

[Olivia Mar]

And many of the girls on that team are red roses. They play for England, and they are some of the most fantastic women I've ever met. They are so fabulous. Like, I forged some incredible friendships, so I'm just excited. I know they're gonna be going, like, head to head as, like, enemies this time, but I'm gonna be like, hi, guys, can we grab tea or whatever? Like, for sure the tea.

[Ally]

For sure, the tea.

[Olivia Mar]

I'm excited. So the USA gets. They have the three pool play games. I believe we play England, Samoa, and I want to say Australia. Don't quote me on that. Please bleep my. And let's. I'll dub it over if that was wrong. Thank you. Okay.

[Ally]

What's it like traveling with your family and going to see her play?

[Olivia Mar]

It's the best. Call it rugby tourism. Like, I've been so many places to watch her play because the seventh circuit is so exciting. Because sevens wrote this. Rugby 15s. There's rugby sevens. I explain this a lot on. On the House of Mar podcast as well, because a lot of our listeners love Alona for the reason they love Alona. Maybe not so much just for rugby, because it's, you know, such a unknown Sport in the USA, but it's rising. So Rugby 15s is the traditional form of rugby that you see when you think of rugby, like what your college.

[Sid]

Think of the All Blacks.

[Olivia Mar]

You think of the all blacks? Exactly. 15 people versus 15 people, like, you know, on a full field for an 80 minute game. And then Sevens is the same size field, but only seven people versus seven people. So there's way more room to move. It is like running.

[Ally]

We love space. Love so much running.

[Olivia Mar]

You guys get it. You guys know how to see space. So that's. And then it's only a 14 minute game. 7 minute and a half.

[Sid]

So it is so exciting.

[Olivia Mar]

It is so fun. You went to LA Sevens, right?

[Sid]

Oh, my gosh. It was unreal. Did you love unreal? And because the games are so short, you can see so, so many matches. And I'm just. I'm a die hard fan, but I'm. I'm like, got to get back into 15s mode because.

[Olivia Mar]

And you were in the locker room with the Ferns, weren't you?

[Sid]

I was, yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

That was cool.

[Sid]

They're. I mean, they were the champions. They're so inspirational. And I had seen them win in. In Paris, so I was just. Yeah, they give me chills.

[Olivia Mar]

Chills all the time.

[Sid]

But I have a soft spot for the US Team. Met a bunch of the girls at the girl dinner.

[Olivia Mar]

Oh, yes, the girl dinner event. Which you didn't come to.

[Sid]

Which Sid forgot about.

[Olivia Mar]

I.

[Ally]

First of all, Ali texts me and she's like, hey, do you have any nice pajamas? And I'm like, not really. Like, aside from our favorite.

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah, Target.

[Sid]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ally]

Can't say Target.

[Sid]

Okay. We got target pajamas 10 years ago.

[Ally]

Yeah, yeah, relax. And I was like, no. And then all of a sudden I see these photos and I was like, oh, that was the thing.

[Sid]

That was.

[Ally]

And then I was like, why didn't you tell me?

[Sid]

Yeah, it was my fault.

[Olivia Mar]

Classic terrible friend.

[Sid]

I didn't want to share my charcuterie board.

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah, sure.

[Ally]

Gucci.

[Olivia Mar]

Oh, yeah, she took one of the. Okay, so we threw a girl dinner. Yeah, let's get into girl dinner party. It was like, alone, like, hosted by Alona, curated by me. And we had these little platters around with different charcuterie and stuff that were, like, meant to be shared. And I, like, turned around at one point and you had your. Like, you were. You had it in your lap. In your lap and snacking. And I think somebody was like, hey, that's for everybody. And I was like, let her do it. That's a girl dinner. A girl dinner is whatever you want. And that's what she wants.

[Sid]

I had training the next day.

[Ally]

You needed the cheese.

[Olivia Mar]

I love cheese.

[Ally]

Protein cheese.

[Sid]

You love the cheese.

[Olivia Mar]

Okay.

[Sid]

For anyone living under a rock, explain girl dinner.

[Olivia Mar]

There's nothing more humbling, though, when somebody's like, what do you do? Like, what do you like? Things. And, like, a lot of people know what girl dinner is. Most women do. But when you do go, have you heard a girl dinner? And they're like, no. And you're like, like, yeah, you're not.

[Ally]

Going to find it. This.

[Olivia Mar]

Where do I go from here? Girl dinner is the coin that I termed. And it's now in a couple of dictionaries, which makes me. I learned. Oh, no, I'm going to say this wrong, but a neologist, or a neologist, which is a person that creates words or phrases. So I did add, that's my dating bios.

[Sid]

Oh, amazing.

[Ally]

I love that.

[Olivia Mar]

Gotta show these hoes I'm smarter than them. But I coined it. In 2023, I had just basically, unfortunately lost my job in Hollywood because I worked, you know, TV and film. I worked with a fantastic showrunner and I, you know, developed, like, was assisting her. But the writer strikes happened and everything shut down. And so I was just sort of, like, doing my thing. I'd already posted on social media. I did a bunch of my travel content, and it was very, like, edited and buttoned up because I liked it to be clean and aesthetic. And I thought that that's what people liked. But I was on a hot girl walk with a friend.

[Ally]

Yeah, I heard about those. Yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

You've heard of these?

[Ally]

Yes. Never been on one, but no, I.

[Sid]

Want to go one day. I hope to be on a hot girl one day.

[Olivia Mar]

One day it'll be ready for you guys. Yeah, even.

[Ally]

And Stanley, though.

[Olivia Mar]

Oh, no, of course, of course. The ice, like, tingling around in there. And my friend was like, we're talking about, like, what we're going to, like, have for dinner. And her boyfriend was making steak or something and she's like, I don't know. We're having, like, steak and like, I love steak. I just don't really want steak tonight.

[Ally]

And I was like, I hear you, girl.

[Olivia Mar]

Not me. Having a girl dinner. And she was like, what? I was like, right, that's a made up term that I use in my own head and in my own house. Like, that's what I. My boyfriend at the time was a. Would love going to the gym and he would get out of the gym and be like, oh, hey, did you already eat or did you do a girl dinner? Because it's something that we like. I would say, so he adopted. And I'm like, oh, my girl dinner. And she was like, oh, what? And I was like, right, sorry, that's just in my own brain. It's what I call when I just sort of pick through my fridge in my cabinet, eating bits and bobs of whatever I'm feeling. Like that it basically equates to an entire meal by the end of it. She was like, oh, I do that.

[Ally]

Yeah. It's like, yeah, I think every girl.

[Olivia Mar]

I think everybody probably does that or some version of it. So the next time I was doing it, it was like salami. I had leftover. I had some grapes. I had some leftover wine from like my friends being over. I had like this, that and the other thing. Pickles. I always have Cornish owns in my fridge. I love those tiny pickles. I love a Cornish home. And I had it all spread out. I eat it at my counter. Like my hair was a mess. Pretty sure. Like no bra on. Just like titties swinging in the wild, doing my swing. The cornishons and the corny sh. That's hilarious. Titty sweating, swinging on the Cornish shirt's going to say I'm like, I need actually. Yeah, I should launch more merch.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

I brought my phone out and I just recorded. I was like, I just seen a girl on Tik Tok talk about she loves eating like a medieval peasant. So like cheese and bread, right? And I was like, I saw somebody talking about medieval peasant, like eating. But I eat like this. I call it a girl dinner. This is my meal. And I showed what I had. And I almost didn't post it because I looked a mess. I. It wasn't edited, it was grainy. It was just like it was dark in my kitchen a little bit, you know, it was like the yellow lighting of the big light, God forbid. And I almost didn't post it because it didn't look esthetic and edited and cute. But alone. I was ringing in my head because Alona is always like, just post it, post it. If your friends the lona and you post something on your story. So it's going to expire within 24 hours. She. She's in your DMs. She is in your walls, and she's going post this to a reel. Like, just post it. Just say it. Like, it's. You never know what's gonna happen. You can't always be edited. Button up. People don't want that. People want you to be authentic. They want to get to know you.

[Sid]

And I.

[Olivia Mar]

She was playing in my head, and I just posted it, and it went stupid dummy viral, which was always the hope, Right? Especially to, like, put yourself out there more vulnerably. And people were like, I love this. I call this my, like, French peasant meal. I call this my rat girl meal. I do this. But let's all call it girl dinner. And the video did well. And I was like, oh, fun. Everybody's getting behind it. And then I went traveling because I was now jobless, and I was, I think, in the Netherlands visiting family. And, like, a second or third cousin of mine was like, hey, something's really happening here. And I was like, oh, I know. My video did so well. And she was like, no, no, no, it's bigger now. She was like, the people are reporting on it. Like, the girls are fighting. There's controversy. And I was like, what? Like, I was so excited. And when I got back, I was being reached out to by, like, Business Insider and the New York Times. I went on the Today show for was very exciting. So that's. That's the legend of girl dinner.

[Ally]

Yeah. I think post the.

[Olivia Mar]

Post the. Post. And eat the snacks and the cornishons with your titty swinging.

[Ally]

Yes. I think the most famous girl dinner is what, the Caesar salad with the fries. Yes.

[Olivia Mar]

That's like, the restaurant equivalent of it. You know, like, if you're at a restaurant, that's what you can do as bits or box.

[Sid]

So, yeah, we had a version of that.

[Olivia Mar]

We did. We did curated that because we were. It was. I was curating it from a hotel's menu.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

And I was like, you guys got. You guys got pickles? An array of pickles. You got olives. What can we do here? So, yeah, there was french fries and.

[Ally]

Yes.

[Olivia Mar]

What are your guys's girl dinners? What's always in your fridge? What's always, like, ready to be snacked?

[Sid]

I also love pickles.

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah.

[Sid]

I don't have the cornishons, but some version of pickles I just spilled all over myself.

[Ally]

It's okay. That means it's good.

[Sid]

Yeah. There's more where that came from.

[Olivia Mar]

I'm gonna put this down.

[Sid]

I'M obviously cereal.

[Ally]

I love cereal.

[Olivia Mar]

Dry or with milk?

[Ally]

With milk.

[Sid]

With milk, yes. I'll do a little bit of leftovers, a little bit of popcorn. I have to admit, after Sid introduced me, I love the Erewhon popcorn.

[Olivia Mar]

The spiral.

[Ally]

So good. And now they have a jalapeno, and it's so good.

[Sid]

Yeah. So I'll. I'll be like, well, that's my carb I got the popcorn in, so I need a little yogurt with my protein.

[Olivia Mar]

Right. And my pickles.

[Ally]

And your pickles.

[Olivia Mar]

And that's a full meal.

[Ally]

Yeah. Mine is usually, like, something I've tried to cook for the kids that they hate. And then I'm like, okay, well, that's girl.

[Olivia Mar]

Mom.

[Ally]

Mom.

[Olivia Mar]

Girl dinner. The mom community online was like, girl dinner. What? This is just mom dinner. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, guys, just eat the scraps. Semantics. Like, it's still all girl dinner.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

Okay.

[Sid]

But we have a question.

[Olivia Mar]

Hit me.

[Ally]

Yes, we do.

[Sid]

What do you think is the men's equivalent of girl dinner?

[Olivia Mar]

Yes. Yes. This is the thing. Everyone, like, once girl dinner popped off, everyone was like, what about boy dinner? Boy dinner this, boy dinner that.

[Sid]

Like, steak.

[Ally]

Just a piece of meat. Chicken.

[Olivia Mar]

It's like chicken and like, a gallon of chocolate milk. Like, yeah, that kind of stuff.

[Sid]

Celsius.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

And a, like, pack of cigarettes. I don't know. Like, what. What do men eat? I've not been around one a long time, so. But that's what's funny about it. Is that, like, a girl dinner. Like, I think girl dinner. Boy dinner. There's such a fine line because somebody's like, whole rotisserie chicken. That's boy dinner. And I'm like, yes, if it's just a rotisserie chicken, but if you paired that with, like, a glass of wine, that's girl agree. For sure. You know what I mean? For sure.

[Ally]

Or if the rotisserie has been picked apart already, it's a girl dinner.

[Sid]

Or if it's left out everywhere and all the cupboards are open. Boy dinner.

[Olivia Mar]

Boy dinner. That's true.

[Sid]

Crumbs everywhere. Boy dinner.

[Olivia Mar]

I eat with my cabinets open, but when I am done, I do. You do. Close, please. I'm actively picking. There's stuff to be eaten in there, you know? But that was what was interesting when, like, there was a bit of, like, controversy around girl dinner. I thought that it was gonna be around, like, oh, are we gendering meals now? And I'm like, that's not what's up.

[Ally]

Oh, boy.

[Olivia Mar]

I'm sitting. No, I'm like. I'm like, no, anybody can enjoy a girl dinner. That's why I was like. When boy dinner happened, I was like, boys can eat girl dinner. Like, yeah, you just need to tap into a more feminine side of yourself and then enjoy girl day. Couple grades. Yeah, well, grades.

[Sid]

Hey, that's how you. You knew you made it once the. Once the.

[Ally]

Once everyone gets started.

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah, you did it. I knew it. And I was like. And that's. That's the way of anything on the Internet, right?

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

And then the other controversy was that people were saying it promoted restrictive eating or, like, disordered eating. And I'm like, no, no, no. You guys. Like, yeah, that's not the point. You are fulfilling yourself. You are. You are feeding and fueling yourself with whatever your body is telling you need not what society is telling you you need. Like, you can go online and be like, e this to look a certain way. No, no. You're listening to exactly what your body wants, and you're eating exactly how much. It's intuitive eating, you know, to a point.

[Ally]

So you see it, you want it.

[Olivia Mar]

You eat it, you eat it, and then you're full and you're good. You're not overeating. You're not, like, doing. You're not doing anything other than, like, having community with your own body. And I think that's beautiful, if I do say so myself.

[Sid]

Oh, wow.

[Olivia Mar]

You don't. You don't.

[Ally]

Another poetic.

[Olivia Mar]

So.

[Sid]

You're so poetic, my corny chone. But you don't. You don't need to. You don't need to justify it to us. We're doing it quite frequently.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sid]

I mean, we're to happen on the soccer field kind of soon.

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah.

[Sid]

Okay, so you mentioned a couple times, like, there isn't a man in your life right now. Have you been dating in la?

[Olivia Mar]

Have you tried.

[Ally]

What's it like dating in la?

[Olivia Mar]

I'm imagining you guys have a high male viewership. Right. Just kidding.

[Sid]

We will now.

[Ally]

We will now.

[Olivia Mar]

Anybody listening and watching? I'm just kidding. Same thing. We are.

[Sid]

No, we're not. We're not kidding.

[Olivia Mar]

We're not listeners and followers and obviously we love. That's our community. But if there's just, you know, when I'm like, I'm single. You're, like, shouting into the void of like, of women that are watching.

[Ally]

No, there's a couple men in there.

[Olivia Mar]

And I know it.

[Sid]

The mom. The mom's out there listening.

[Olivia Mar]

That's true.

[Sid]

Some, you know, their sons that are.

[Olivia Mar]

65 and have a good job in their own place. Okay. Are those your.

[Sid]

Are those your only requirements?

[Ally]

Yeah. We need dating. Red flags or green?

[Sid]

Okay, okay, let's. Yeah, let's do that first.

[Olivia Mar]

Let's do that first.

[Ally]

Okay.

[Olivia Mar]

Love.

[Ally]

Okay. No social media. Love.

[Sid]

Right.

[Olivia Mar]

Green flag. Green flag.

[Sid]

That's a man.

[Olivia Mar]

Why are you, as a man posting.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

On Instagram.

[Ally]

Selfies.

[Olivia Mar]

Selfies. No, exactly.

[Sid]

Or like what he looks even if you don't post. What are you looking at?

[Ally]

Exactly.

[Olivia Mar]

Right.

[Sid]

What are you looking at? What are you liking?

[Ally]

Right.

[Olivia Mar]

Talk about this quote all the time. I saw a tweet or somebody else's video one time that was like our ancestors saw one to two baddies in their life. Now you see several hundred within like. Like 20 minutes. You know what I mean? So. Yeah. What are you looking at? Interested in? But then again, it is tricky when I am very online. Like a lot of brain rot here. That is so a part of my personality and who I am. And being around somebody who doesn't get that can be tricky as well.

[Sid]

Yeah, that's a fair point.

[Ally]

That's true. You know, that's true.

[Olivia Mar]

That's a fair. But I think green flag.

[Ally]

Okay. Oh, yeah, we. We agree.

[Sid]

Okay. Let's say six, five, has a job, lives with his parents.

[Olivia Mar]

Honestly, in today's day and age, it's smart.

[Ally]

We said that.

[Olivia Mar]

It's like. Yeah. It's economical.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

I'll say.

[Ally]

Los Angeles.

[Olivia Mar]

Los Angeles. Come on. I mean, would it be ideal if they had their own place? For sure. How do you be nice in the parents?

[Ally]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

That's always tough. But. But you.

[Sid]

You have your place, so.

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. But then, like. Yeah. He also, though, need to be okay with his setup versus mine, instead of being intimidated.

[Ally]

Always like an ego thing. That's true. That's true.

[Olivia Mar]

So.

[Ally]

All right, well, his mom is his best friend. Please be nice for my sake.

[Olivia Mar]

Oh, I see. Is she a bad word from the Internet boy? Mom?

[Ally]

No, no, me. Okay. She's me. Okay. Just loves him and he loves. And he's obsessed with her and he respects women and just like all of the things.

[Olivia Mar]

Okay.

[Ally]

And you can also be best friends.

[Olivia Mar]

So that's the thing. If she.

[Sid]

She quite involved though, I think.

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah. Really?

[Sid]

I think so.

[Ally]

Really?

[Sid]

I think. I think he will.

[Ally]

I feel like I'm hands off.

[Sid]

I think he will want her opinion on. On a lot of things.

[Ally]

Yeah, that's true. That's true. But I feel like, you know, if you were to come along, I'd realize.

[Olivia Mar]

This Turned about Sid. No, because I know boy mom.

[Ally]

And I always tell Ally, I'm like, I cannot be that weird boy mom.

[Olivia Mar]

No, you can't. You can't. Like.

[Ally]

And I don't feel like I am.

[Olivia Mar]

You don't. But he won't know yet.

[Ally]

He's a mom. He's a mommy's boy.

[Olivia Mar]

Right? Yeah. Right, Right.

[Ally]

So much.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

As long as the mom isn't, like, like, like, weirdly threatened by you or, like, territorial about her son around you and she's supportive, then, like, I think you're all good.

[Ally]

Yeah. So I guess a cool mom is the best mom.

[Olivia Mar]

Yes. But not like a cool mom, like, proving it to her son, but, like, a cool mom she gets.

[Ally]

Chill, girls.

[Olivia Mar]

Girl. You can be a boy mom and a girl's girl.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

I'd love to see it.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

That's you.

[Ally]

It's me.

[Olivia Mar]

It's gonna be you.

[Ally]

It is me.

[Sid]

That is said.

[Ally]

Oh, well, I guess we kind of did this, but gym selfies. Selfies or, like, pictures in front of cars that aren't his.

[Sid]

How much are you gonna judge him by what he has on his feed?

[Ally]

I guess maybe, like.

[Olivia Mar]

Right. Okay. A photo in front of a car.

[Ally]

Tough.

[Olivia Mar]

Do you want to have sex with a car? Be honest.

[Ally]

Right. Or a photo in front of, like, a dead animal that they've killed.

[Sid]

No. Hunters.

[Olivia Mar]

And I'm not too. So, like, full of that. Or like the fishes that they've caught. Yeah.

[Ally]

And it's like, like, okay.

[Olivia Mar]

I could do that if I really wanted to.

[Ally]

Like. Right.

[Sid]

Wait, are you. Are you on the apps?

[Olivia Mar]

I. Yes. Recently. Okay. It's hell in there. It's so spooky. It's fine, though. I have not been on the apps. Like, I was on Tinder in college, like, in Peak 20. Like, 14, 2015. And I have not been on anything since. Since. But I have recently. I'm, like, testing the waters, you know, so I can't judge it too hard. I'm so new. I'm so new to this game. But I've, you know, just heard from my friends over the years that have been on it for a while, so I have much to learn, you know, because I'm such a. Like, I want someone to talk to me first. And my sisters are like, no, them. Sometimes you have to say something first. And I'm like, my husband will not make me 100%.

[Ally]

100.

[Sid]

We have a little differing.

[Ally]

He'll come, do you Come to you?

[Olivia Mar]

Do you? So you say, he'll come to you.

[Sid]

Do you Think I reached out first to Lucas when we matched on Tinder. See, I said hi. Pull in parenthesis. Smiley face.

[Ally]

Yeah, she's married and I'm not, so.

[Olivia Mar]

I guess you talk first. That's true.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

She has field research. She's got. Oh, that's a good point, though. And sometimes they are a little shy, and if that's what it takes to get first past that first barrier.

[Sid]

And I just said hi. I. I didn't then asked meat or anything. I mean, it's a very long story. We were in different cities in different countries anyways. But I never planned to ask anyone out, but I was willing to just.

[Ally]

Be like, hey, put yourself out there. Yeah, for sure. Interesting.

[Olivia Mar]

My thing is, I want to meet someone in the wild.

[Ally]

So, like, I know, but that's hard to do, except you're everywhere.

[Olivia Mar]

And, like, that's why I'm everywhere.

[Sid]

Nice dressed up men out there.

[Olivia Mar]

You would think, but I met a lot of female focused, like, email powerful, like, events, you know, which is like, I love, like, those my girlies.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

But, I mean, if you think it's bad online, we're on dating apps where, like, somebody won't say hi first. Nothing's happening outside.

[Ally]

Right?

[Olivia Mar]

Nobody's approaching anybody. And I don't know my opening move yet. So if you guys had an idea for, like, an opening move for me, I would gladly take it. Or if you guys could let me know what my. Like, I feel like going in with, like, hey, you look like my next.

[Ally]

Boyfriend feels a little too much.

[Olivia Mar]

That feels a little strong. I don't know. I don't know.

[Ally]

Ask Ali. Because no one comes and talks to me.

[Sid]

Oh, my gosh. That. That would be a little strong for me. But I feel like if you went up to a guy and just said, hey, I'm Livy. What's up?

[Ally]

Wow.

[Sid]

I think he would be like, oh, my gosh, you are so beautiful. I want to talk to you.

[Ally]

Yeah, but I'm like, you walk over here.

[Sid]

Yeah, I see.

[Olivia Mar]

I don't know.

[Ally]

But then I guess sometimes if you're on your phone or, like, your body is supposed to be open, and you're.

[Sid]

Probably swarmed by these amazing, impressive women that you were just talking about. Like, you might seem, like, out of their league. So they're intimidated.

[Ally]

That's what I always say. But I'm like, I just don't think that I'm approachable. So maybe. Okay, well, maybe we'd be open.

[Sid]

Here's what we're gonna do. Because the BFFR Hotline is open. So what are your like top three characteristics and then like your non negotiables? Like absolutely not. And then. Yes, a lot of women are listening to this, but tell your friends.

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah. Because nobody's setting anybody up anymore. So I love this. I love this. Tune me in. Okay. What are my non negotiables? Okay, I said it earlier, but you know, in our family conversation is a huge point, like a good talker. So I guess like you have to be like a certain level of intellectual in that way because then you also can be funny and wit is really important to me. But then again, I don't want to be going bit for bit with somebody because like.

[Ally]

Yeah, yeah, I feel that. I feel that it's a full time job over here.

[Olivia Mar]

So just like. Yeah. Like secure in themselves. It witty, intellectual and kind and six five with a. Yeah. Okay.

[Ally]

You're not kidding.

[Sid]

No, no, I'm not kidding.

[Olivia Mar]

I'm just a simple girl. I'm just a simple girl. Yeah.

[Ally]

I truly Thick, tall and long. Yay.

[Sid]

Tall, long, thick and witty.

[Olivia Mar]

Hey. Okay, write that down.

[Sid]

1, 8, 3, 3, TXT. BFFR. You can also DM us. It will get to me.

[Ally]

Yeah, perfect.

[Olivia Mar]

I also don't like have a type. I truly go off of like vibes. Like if you could like look at my exes lined up, you'd be like, whoa. One of my friends actually, when I showed her, she was like, you've got range, girl. So range is good, right? Is good. That's what it is. It really is about the person and the conversation and who you are and how we get along.

[Sid]

But also tall.

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah. Okay. Sometimes on the at, like, you know, it says your height. I have 511 on there. Does this happen to you?

[Sid]

No, but they lie. Are they lying?

[Olivia Mar]

No, it's just that like when somebody will like my profile and it says that they're like 5 7, I'm like, I almost need to meet this icon. Like, I almost need to like see what this guy is about to like have liked me and.

[Ally]

Right.

[Olivia Mar]

You know what I mean? Yes, you have. Are you as confident as like, I just, you know, so 100.

[Ally]

Okay.

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sid]

All the same height lying down.

[Ally]

No, it's not. That's what Lucas's friends say. It's not though.

[Olivia Mar]

I have not heard that.

[Ally]

It's not.

[Sid]

Well, your heads are in the same spot.

[Olivia Mar]

Right.

[Ally]

They've got to be a little sort of on the pillow.

[Olivia Mar]

What if they have a short torso?

[Ally]

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

[Olivia Mar]

They're like here. Right, right here. So triple ch.

[Sid]

And then you're like, okay, guys, I need a refill. It's. It's time for happy hour.

[Olivia Mar]

Fair, Fair.

[Ally]

Need a refill. Fair.

[Olivia Mar]

Refill.

[Ally]

Refill from this.

[Olivia Mar]

I'll spill the next one on my shirt too. Can we get a close up on this one? He's doing it. Ah, that's a beautiful sound.

[Ally]

It is. Truly.

[Olivia Mar]

Oh, you guys, the white chairs. I'm so scared. Oh, I'm a really good.

[Ally]

I'm a really. I'm a really good poor.

[Olivia Mar]

They're professionals.

[Ally]

I forgot athletes. Oh.

[Sid]

Oh.

[Olivia Mar]

Stunning. Oh, it's getting worse. If my mom were here, she'd go, that's alcohol abuse.

[Ally]

Hello.

[Olivia Mar]

Cheers. Cheers.

[Sid]

Cheers to happy hour at bar bffr. Hey, and Olivia's staying for this, obviously.

[Ally]

It's my favorite time.

[Sid]

You want to be an hour at.

[Ally]

Bar BFFR with a watermelon martini that I just kind of had made out of love.

[Sid]

It's amazing.

[Olivia Mar]

I can taste the love.

[Ally]

Yeah. Love's a little strong here, but that's what we want.

[Sid]

Strong love.

[Olivia Mar]

Literally got car service here because I had a feeling.

[Sid]

She's also very smart. Ladies and gentlemen.

[Olivia Mar]

Tell your sons.

[Ally]

Yeah, we need to talk about recession bush.

[Olivia Mar]

Right.

[Ally]

Where did that come from? First of all, explain how it came to be, and then we got to talk about it.

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah.

[Sid]

We want to unpack it and debate it.

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

My sisters and I on House of Mar, we had a. We had a long and real full grown chat about bushes. And what about is that. Because the Internet was talking a lot about recession bush, that having a bush or bushes coming back into grooming style is an indicator that there's a recession coming, which is like. Right.

[Sid]

The Internet.

[Olivia Mar]

But Andrea basically described it as like, you know, you're not spending as much on grooming products, on razors, on trimmers or whatever. You're just kind of going au natural as a way to save some money around a potential, like, recession or if things are getting tight and tough, so you just let it go full.

[Ally]

Full on, like, as long as it can be.

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah.

[Ally]

Oh, wow. Yeah.

[Sid]

I feel like the first thing you stop spending on in a recession, like, stop going to air on first.

[Olivia Mar]

No spiraling a popcorn second. Full bush second.

[Sid]

I just can't afford a razor anymore.

[Ally]

Yeah. But now we can't go back. I can't go back because I had laser.

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah. So that's.

[Sid]

So it's too late.

[Olivia Mar]

It's too late. A middle of this is that, like, it's too late. People Were talking about that they lasered it away at a young age and now they yearn for a bush.

[Ally]

Yeah, I wish. Like, is the. Is the landing strip still in?

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah, probably. I mean.

[Ally]

Or the triangle. Anything. The triangle.

[Olivia Mar]

I used to try to get waxed and I would, like, ask for fun things and then they would just like, make it so wonky. Every time I was like, never mind. What are we. I thought you were professional. Like, what are we doing here? I'm very much so. Like, do what you want on there.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

Don't let anybody else tell you, though. Like, definitely take your partner's like, wants into consideration.

[Sid]

As long as he or she also takes yours into consideration.

[Olivia Mar]

Exactly.

[Ally]

And it's.

[Olivia Mar]

It can't be like a one way street there. And it can't be anything that you're not comfortable with. So it's like, truly do what you want down there.

[Ally]

Let that cry. I do feel like if it gets too long, it like, it maybe pulls or it. Yeah, like, itchy.

[Sid]

It kind of like pokes through the spandex.

[Olivia Mar]

I was gonna say when it spokes. And you can like. This is so weird. But when you, like, pet it, you can like feel it through like a.

[Ally]

Cheetah pet or something.

[Sid]

It's like a Chia Pet. And like, I'll be getting treatment.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sid]

And like, she's working on my nerve and then I'm like, looking down.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

It's just.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[Ally]

You know, there's a couple of them poking.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[Ally]

Just.

[Olivia Mar]

That's its own aesthetic.

[Sid]

Yeah, it is.

[Olivia Mar]

Thank you.

[Sid]

Did you ever use Nair or any of the hair removal? Oh, my gosh.

[Olivia Mar]

Those scared me because I heard they smelled really bad. So bad stink and then they poison in it. It's got to be crazy chemicals and didn't really work. Yes, that too.

[Ally]

Depends. They either worked if they burned you.

[Sid]

Right. If you left it on long enough to work, then you also got a burn.

[Olivia Mar]

Right.

[Sid]

So it could seep in and, like, kill the actual follicle.

[Olivia Mar]

Oh, my God. But if you left.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

I was always worried that I would, like, somehow like something out of a movie, have a dollop on my hand and, like, itch my eyebrow. I was always like, like. And to me, it happens instantly. Like, you wipe it when it's. The hair comes with it, you know? So I was always terrified of that. So I never touched any of that stuff. Just good old razors and wax strips. The at home wax strips. Have you ever done those?

[Ally]

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

[Sid]

Oh, I tried it down there.

[Olivia Mar]

They go well for you or.

[Sid]

No, Almost, like, tore off.

[Ally]

Really?

[Sid]

Labia. Yeah.

[Ally]

The whole thing was almost just. Yeah, yeah. On the thing.

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah.

[Sid]

No, they're really scary.

[Olivia Mar]

They're really scary. So I. The kinds you rub together for, like, heat and then it melts. Those, like, never really work. So I would use a blow dryer, like a hair blow dryer on it.

[Ally]

Right.

[Olivia Mar]

Really comes apart. And I was, like, so scared. I was like, just do it. And I slapped it down.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

And then I was like, oh, yeah.

[Sid]

See, you gotta turn back.

[Olivia Mar]

You can't turn back. Two, three.

[Ally]

And then you just do it.

[Olivia Mar]

But for me, like, you know when you're like, arm goes. All your muscles go noodly because you're scared of something.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

Like, I would go to rip it in my arm and be like, yeah, like.

[Sid]

Or you just can't grip and you're.

[Ally]

Like, I can't do this.

[Olivia Mar]

I can't do the other half. Yeah, that's it. This is what you. Forever. Sorry. Those scare me too. And it's just, like, not worth it.

[Ally]

I hated getting waxed in general, though. And then they put their hand on it as if it's going to help the pain. Oh, yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

They, like, slap it down there.

[Ally]

And I'm like, thank you. It fudgeing her hurts.

[Sid]

So we have two teammates in Orlando who shared the same waxer as me. And the one girl, she came into training one day and was like, huh? This was the first time anyone had me, like, on all fours to get waxed.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sid]

And the other girl and I turned to each other and we're like, they don't ask us to do that.

[Ally]

Really? Oh, I've been on all fours. I've been butterflied out.

[Sid]

No, but the same person had us, like, we would kind of do the butterfly or, like, one leg at a time.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

One line.

[Sid]

And the other girl would just get her in this, like, child's pose position and just be, like, right up in there. So we were just a little bit.

[Olivia Mar]

That was always spooky. Maybe her hair grows differently.

[Sid]

Yeah. A little bit intrigued about the different techniques. And so then she. She did stop going to that place.

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah.

[Sid]

And never, never had that again.

[Ally]

I always got the all fours.

[Sid]

You guys are lucky. I guess.

[Olivia Mar]

I think I only got the all fours for, like, the butt strip. You know what I mean?

[Ally]

You know what? You think the butt strip hurts? It doesn't.

[Sid]

The best relief at the end. That's like the Gillet at the end.

[Ally]

Put me on all fours.

[Olivia Mar]

It's the kiss at the End.

[Ally]

That's what that is. After the pain of right near the lips.

[Olivia Mar]

Oh, my God.

[Ally]

I always suntan naked.

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah.

[Ally]

Out in the back.

[Olivia Mar]

Smart.

[Ally]

And then I. I call Ally and my boobies out or whatever.

[Olivia Mar]

Mom.

[Sid]

If you come over and Sid has to take a shower, she makes you stand and talk to her while she's in the bath. Or shower.

[Olivia Mar]

That's friendship. That's beautiful. That's friendship.

[Ally]

Like, where are you going? Come with me.

[Sid]

Talk.

[Ally]

Talk to me.

[Olivia Mar]

My friends in adulthood, like, you know, you have your friends from college or whatever. My friends in adulthood, where we see each other because we go out for a drink or we do this, and now you finally get closer and you're like, I need you to know what my boobs look like. Because, like, that's what real friends do. And I don't want it to be weird when I'm changing in front of you. Like, here's what they look like, you know? Like, that's friendship, I think.

[Ally]

I feel like we are so comfortable because it's always how it's been. You're just, like, naked around your teammates, you know? Yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

Athletes are different.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sid]

Wait. Now that you said that, I just realized that, like, my friends, who I don't know from soccer.

[Ally]

I've never seen your boob.

[Sid]

We. We have had no reason to see each other naked. I've never really thought about that.

[Ally]

Wow.

[Olivia Mar]

Have a couple of these and get to know each other.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[Ally]

Are they big? Are they little?

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah. You'll never know. It's an important thing which friends are judgmental. Which. Which ones?

[Sid]

Oh, my gosh. Yeah. So my amazing friends list. Listening to this, who.

[Olivia Mar]

Get ready to show your nibs. Yeah.

[Sid]

If we haven't seen each other naked, we will be soon.

[Ally]

Yeah. Everyone's seen my nips for sure. Yeah. Yeah.

[Sid]

Artemis, should we do last call?

[Ally]

Yeah, we need you.

[Sid]

We need you to help us with last call.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

Last call.

[Sid]

Okay. So every week we ask you to call us with your questions, confessions, unhinged, BFFR moments. And you have been doing a great job. Thank you. So this week, we have Olivia here to help us break it down. Let's hear it.

[Ally]

Here we go.

[Olivia Mar]

Hi, Sid, Ali and Olivia.

[D]

This is Erin calling. I need your opinion about my friend Steph. So she recently started dating this guy Jake, and I'm so sorry, my baby's crying in the background. I'm a Malieu, so obviously I have some time to kill. So she, like, always dates apples. So we're all excited she's dating someone nice. They Go on a date the other night, and he was just a total dud, and she was really upset about it. Like, they'd probably been on nine dates before, and he rocked. And then this date, I guess he'd been working all week and just, like, sucked. And so we got in this big debate last night of what is better. Would you rather have a guy show up to a date and be a total dud? Clearly, my child doesn't think that's the answer. Or would you rather have him come and totally fake it it? And I was arguing to her, like, well, if he faked it, you never would have known. And now you wouldn't be freaking out and getting all these. Whatever this, like, weird early dating fight. Or should he have just canceled? So what's your opinion? What do you think? I have to let her know.

[Sid]

Good question.

[Ally]

Yeah, that is a good question. I'm. I would. I would rather a cancel. But then I'm like, no. Oh, you. You would have created this date, and now you're canceling. So fake it till you make it. That's what I'm. That's what I'm saying. It's.

[Olivia Mar]

My problem is, like, I'm a faker till you make yeah Maker. And I just, like, put on a show, even at the expense of my own energy. And I know that that's not good. So, like, I guess I don't recommend it, so I can't, like, advocate for that, but I would have done that. So I would have been like, well, what the hell? Just.

[Ally]

Yeah, like, you can't be that. Like.

[Sid]

Yeah, I think if you aren't good at faking it. Just the communication, like, if you're gonna. If you're saying, like, like, I'm just so wiped out today, but I really wanted to come on this date, like, to be so clear. I want to be here. That's why I'm doing it. But I don't have a lot of energy today. Or if. Even if you cancel, be like, send flowers.

[Olivia Mar]

Or be like, I really wanted to.

[Sid]

See you something good to make up for it so you don't have this. Like, you don't start worrying.

[Ally]

But also, it's the ninth date, so he could be like, I'm so tired. Let's do, like, Uber Eats at mine.

[Sid]

Yeah, I don't. Going on the date and being a dud. I don't know if there's an excuse for that.

[Olivia Mar]

Anything that's. Just let them know it's not them. Like, because I'm so. Yes. Like, yeah, you center yourself anywhere. So you're automatically gonna think that it's your fault that they're feeling this way or acting this way, or you did something wrong or something's not working here. So as long as you're clearly communicating, like, then again, like I always say, like, you can communicate until your faces are blue. But, like, it is about comprehension. So, like, he needs to understand where your friend's coming from on why she would be upset about the way that you're. You get it, like, back and forth.

[Sid]

Do you think she should tell him, like, she's pissed he was dead?

[Olivia Mar]

I mean, maybe not, like, open with pissedness because then, like, he will automatically get defensive and, like, not be a great conversationalist. Probably. Crazy. Yeah, crazy man. Like, I was totally normal. Like, no, you weren't.

[Ally]

Yeah, you're a loser.

[Olivia Mar]

You were being a loser. Just be like, I think, like, starting the conversation with, like, hey, I've been having a really great time, but, you know, you. I really wasn't feeling our last date. Was everything okay? Was there anything that, you know, I. I did. Or was it just, like, your own work life balance that's kind of stressing you out? Like, make sure that they know it's not you, it's them.

[Ally]

I guess.

[Sid]

I wish you would recognize that he was a dud, though.

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah.

[Sid]

Come on, Jake. Do better.

[Olivia Mar]

Literally. The hell they never.

[Ally]

I don't know. I would probably.

[Sid]

You would let it fester.

[Ally]

I would let it fester. And then we would go somewhere, you know, the next day. And now I'm gonna be a dad.

[Olivia Mar]

Right, Right, right, right, right.

[Sid]

Don't take this advice.

[Olivia Mar]

Don't take advice.

[Ally]

I'm like, is the best medicine.

[Sid]

Anyways, that is, unfortunately, a wrap on this week's episode of bffr. Thank you, Olivia, for joining us.

[Olivia Mar]

It was an honor.

[Sid]

It was such a pleasure. Follow House of Mar. It looks like mayhair, but it's Mar or mohair. Mohair. And of course, follow @BFFR. Show on the socials.

[Ally]

Make sure you're subscribed on YouTube, Spotify, Instagram, Apple podcasts, Apple Podcasts, Tick tock, all the things anywhere. You can watch us all and keep.

[Sid]

The voicemails and DMS coming, and we'll.

[Olivia Mar]

See you next Monday.