Podcast Summary: BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast
Episode Title: He Bought After 2008, Sold at the Peak, and JUST Bought Again
Date: April 1, 2026
Hosts: Dave Meyer (A) & Henry Washington (B)
Guest: Brian Burke (C), seasoned investor
Main Theme:
Understanding the changing tides in real estate, evaluating opportunities as the market shifts, and actionable strategies for seizing discounted assets—especially as distress emerges in both commercial and residential sectors.
Big Picture Outlook: Market Cycles and What’s Next
Brian’s Economic Forecast
- Recaps his previous prediction: "end the dive in 25, it's fixed in 26, and buyer heave in 27." ([02:10])
- 2026: “transition year” where the market finds the bottom, prepping for buyer opportunities in 2027.
- “If you're a long-term thinker, if you're one of those three to five year holder guys, you're too early. But if you're a 20, 30 year player, this is a really good time to buy.” ([03:14] - Brian Burke)
What’s Shifting?
- Sellers' psychology is changing—from “survive till 25” optimism to accepting the need for distress sales or even losing properties to lenders.
- Commercial real estate distress is increasing, with senior housing and large multifamily operators most pressured.
- “I just had two conversations like this a week and a half ago with people I know that are in that situation—a year prior, they were going to hang on and everything was going to work itself out.” ([04:42] - Brian Burke)
Distress and Opportunity: How to Spot It
Signs of Distress
- Short sales are reappearing, especially in commercial real estate.
- Banks and lenders are beginning to foreclose or accept losses—opportunity for buyers.
- “We bought these assets at about 45% of the loan balance...I haven’t bought a short sale since probably 2011.” ([05:56] - Brian Burke)
Commercial vs. Residential
- Commercial multifamily: Delinquencies at their highest since the 2008 crash, but deals are still hard due to sellers’ unrealistic price expectations.
- Residential: Foreclosures rising, but vast equity protects against a flood of distress. Less bidding wars create better buying prospects.
- "General market weakness is what's presenting opportunities to single family home investors...without having to bid against 86 other all-cash over asking buyers." ([08:02] - Brian Burke)
How Lenders Handle Distressed Assets
Lender Strategies
- Often “kick the can down the road”—granting loan extensions if partial principal is paid, waiting for market improvement to minimize their losses.
- Once the market stabilizes, expect more forced sales and true distress.
- “All the lenders are trying to do is maximize their chances of principal recovery…when the market comes back enough...that’s when I think we're going to see more short sales.” ([10:34] - Brian Burke)
Tactical Advice: How to Find and Land These Deals
Getting “Scrappy”
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Active Sourcing is Critical
- Don’t expect real deals to appear in your inbox; you must work for them.
- Go to conferences, engage directly with brokers and property managers, build your reputation for reliability and quick closes. ([19:43]-[20:52])
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Management Companies are Key
- Property managers often know first when lenders take over properties. They can tip off investor-buyers early in the disposition process.
- “I bought several REO apartment complexes back in 2011, 2012...brought to me by the property manager that was brought in by the lender.” ([21:14] - Brian Burke)
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Foreclosure Auctions & Off-Market Deals
- On the residential side, courthouse auctions offer lesser competition from non-pros, giving serious buyers better margins.
Henry’s “Normal Investor" Playbook
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Bank Relationships:
- Focus on local banks, not big national ones, for REO and distressed opportunities.
- “If you’re going to employ that strategy, focus…on a smaller local bank...there you might get some traction.” ([24:03] - Brian Burke)
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Title Companies & Broker Networks:
- Use title companies to identify which brokers handle REO assets, then invest in those relationships.
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Community Networking:
- Chamber of Commerce memberships facilitate warm intros to community bankers and enable organic deal flow. ([25:25])
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Effort Allocation:
- Your best early leads are likely from management companies, brokers, and small bank insiders—not massive institutions.
- “No amount of effort would I say is like a total waste of time...But if you’re asking me to handicap your results...that 20% wouldn’t include going to Chase bank...” ([26:06] - Brian Burke)
Syndications: Still Viable or Caution Ahead?
Current State of Syndications
- Syndications themselves aren’t inherently bad; bad syndications and operators are the problem.
- Right now, multifamily syndications don’t pencil, due to valuations and uncertainty—but that’s temporary.
- “It pains me to say this being a multi decade, multi family syndicator…but one that hasn’t bought anything in three and a half years and still isn’t. I think it’s still just a little bit early…” ([31:24] - Brian Burke)
- The best opportunities arise after recovery is unmistakable; be patient for the three-to-five year “upside” window.
Vet Syndications Carefully
- Evaluate the asset, underwriting, operator track record, and deal structure (especially the debt/loan maturities).
- Beware of short-term debt at market cycle peaks; it’s safer at the bottom.
- Resource: The Hands-Off Investor (Brian Burke’s book) published by BiggerPockets, for a deep dive on due diligence. ([33:36])
Residential Real Estate: Now’s the Time for Patient Buyers
Current State
- Residential market has cooled; transaction velocity is the slowest since the 1990s.
- Fewer rental homes and landlords mean less competition for both flips and rentals.
- "Home sale transaction velocity is at its lowest rate since the early 1990s...the percentage of homes owned as rentals is declining...an opening for residential landlords..." ([36:03] - Brian Burke)
Advice for New Investors
- Great time for long-term buy-and-hold strategies, especially in single-family homes.
- Lower competition as flippers exit—improves the odds of finding good deals.
- Always adjust purchase price and numbers to the new, softer market realities:
- “It's not people are bad at flipping, it's that flippers are bad at buying, and they're not adjusting their numbers…” ([38:32] - Henry Washington)
- Assets are “needles in haystacks”—but there are millions of haystacks in residential, making tenacious searching worthwhile.
- "If you look hard enough and you look in the right places, you can find them. And that's really all it takes." ([40:23] - Brian Burke)
Notable Quotes (with Timestamps & Attribution)
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Brian Burke:
- "I said, end the dive in 25, it's fixed in 26, and buyer heave in 27. And I'm not really changing my story yet, Dave." ([02:10])
- “The psychology is changing where...owners are now realizing it's time to do something, and it's going to be painful. And they've been trying to push it off, but they're going to be taking some losses...” ([08:55])
- “Sometimes you just got to sit on the sidelines and let this play out.” ([12:44])
- “You find [good deals] in the margins, you know, writing letters and going to foreclosure sales...that's where you find opportunity.” ([14:04])
- "Are syndications still a viable path? The answer is yes. But you have to be investing in a syndication that's investing in a viable path, right?" ([30:40])
- "The best deals out there are like a needle in a haystack. Well, there's about 300 million haystacks in single family residential..." ([39:44])
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Henry Washington:
- “Flippers are getting out of the business. What does that spell to you as an aspiring real estate investor? … It’s money for me, baby.” ([39:42])
- “When I hear that [flippers are leaving]…it’s not people are bad at flipping. It’s that flippers are bad at buying, and they’re not adjusting their numbers…” ([38:32])
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Dave Meyer:
- “It frustrates me when people say syndications are bad. It’s like, no, you might have invested in a bad syndication.” ([32:46])
Action Steps & Takeaways
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For Opportunity-Seekers:
- Target 2027 and beyond for big commercial multifamily. Be patient and sector-agnostic—hunt where distress is coming now (senior housing, selected commercial segments).
- As a small investor, build relationships with local banks, brokers, management companies, and network in your market.
- For syndications, wait for clear market recovery before jumping in. Diligently vet both the deal and the sponsor.
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For Residential Investors:
- Now is a window for long-term buying—less competition, better spreads, but demands patient, disciplined underwriting.
- As “bad buyers” and flippers exit, solid deals become more available for those willing to do the legwork.
Useful Timecodes for Reference
- 02:10 Market cycle forecast (Brian Burke)
- 05:56 Real-world short sale example & why it’s back
- 08:47 Multifamily owner psychology shift
- 13:40 Deep discount deals & why listed deals rarely pencil
- 19:43 How to “get scrappy” and find off-market opportunities
- 24:03 Why small, local banks matter for deals
- 30:40 Are syndications viable now?
- 36:03 Residential market status, flipping, and new landlord opportunity
This summary highlights actionable advice, market context, and memorable moments from one of the industry’s most seasoned voices, expertly guided by the BiggerPockets team.
