BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast: March 2025 Housing Market Update – Are Price Declines Coming?
Host: Dave Meyer, Head of Real Estate at BiggerPockets
Release Date: March 21, 2025
Podcast Overview:
In this episode, Dave Meyer delves into the current state of the housing market, analyzing trends, regional differences, mortgage rates, and economic indicators to provide real estate investors with actionable insights. He discusses whether price declines are imminent and how investors can navigate the evolving landscape to optimize their portfolios.
Introduction to the March 2025 Housing Market
Dave Meyer opens the episode by addressing the shifting dynamics in the housing market. After years of strong seller power, the market is now showing signs of softening, presenting both opportunities and risks for investors.
“Potential price declines can be a boon for real estate investors looking to negotiate, but they also create risk if you buy at the wrong moment.”
— Dave Meyer [00:15]
He emphasizes the importance of understanding broad market trends alongside honing individual investment skills such as deal finding and tenant screening.
Current Housing Market Trends: Flat or Slightly Declining Prices
Meyer provides a snapshot of the national housing market, highlighting mixed data regarding price movements.
“When you look at the Case Shiller, it's much closer to flat. We're probably in somewhere in between those two.”
— Dave Meyer [02:30]
- Redfin Data: Home prices up 4% year-over-year (seasonally adjusted).
- Case Shiller Index: Prices remain nearly flat, tracking changes in the same homes over time.
Conclusion:
The national housing market is neither correcting nor crashing but is stabilizing with prices remaining flat or experiencing modest declines. This stabilization indicates a shift towards a more balanced market, moving away from the accelerated appreciation seen in previous years.
Supply and Demand Dynamics
Understanding supply and demand is crucial in analyzing housing prices. Meyer breaks down the current state of both.
Supply: New Listings and Active Inventory
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New Listings:
Up 6% year-over-year according to Redfin. This increase is positive, moving towards a healthier inventory level. -
Active Listings:
Up 10% year-over-year. Although rising, inventory levels have not yet returned to pre-pandemic highs.
“Having [new listings] go up is generally seen as a good thing. But you have to look not just at how many people are listing their properties for sale, but also how long those properties are staying on the market.”
— Dave Meyer [04:45]
Historical Context:
- 2019 (Pre-Pandemic): Active listings around 2.3 – 2.4 million
- Pandemic Low: Dropped to 1.1 million
- Current: Approximately 1.5 million, expected to rise to 1.9 million by summer.
Meyer notes that while inventory is increasing, it remains below pre-pandemic levels, contributing to the softening market.
Demand: Consumer Behavior and Preference
Demand remains robust due to sustained consumer interest, but the interplay with increasing supply is leading to a more balanced market scenario. Elevated demand with rising inventory helps prevent significant price drops but tempers the previously aggressive appreciation rates.
Regional Differences in Inventory Changes
Dave emphasizes that national trends mask significant regional variances, which are critical for localized investment strategies.
“Every single state in the country is experiencing increases in inventory except North Dakota.”
— Dave Meyer [07:10]
Key Highlights:
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Highest Inventory Growth:
- Nevada: Up 44% year-over-year
- California: Up 41%
- Arizona: Up 37%
- Hawaii: Near 50%
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Moderate Growth:
- Florida: Up 34%
- Georgia: Up 37%
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Lowest Inventory Growth (Northeast & Midwest):
- New York: Up 3%
- New Jersey: Up 9%
- Illinois: Up 9%
- North Dakota: Down 2%
Comparison to Pre-Pandemic Levels (2019):
Most states remain below 2019 inventory levels, particularly in the Northeast and Midwest:
- Pennsylvania: Down 50%
- Maine & New Hampshire: Down 61%
- Illinois: Down 63%
- Others: Wisconsin, Michigan, Virginia down similarly
States Above Pre-Pandemic Inventory:
- Texas: 15% above 2019
- Florida: 9%
- Colorado: 7%
- Tennessee: 2%
“The market is softening because we're just moving back to a more balanced housing market.”
— Dave Meyer [09:30]
Implications:
Investors must conduct localized research, as inventory trends vary greatly by state and even within regions of the same state. Understanding these nuances is essential for making informed investment decisions.
Mortgage Rates and Economic Sentiment
Meyer transitions to discussing mortgage rates, a critical factor influencing the housing market and investment strategies.
“Mortgage rates have come down to 6.64% for a 30-year fix, down nearly 0.6% from mid-January.”
— Dave Meyer [13:00]
Factors Influencing Rate Drops:
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Soft Economic Data:
- Consumer Sentiment: Experienced the largest month-over-month drop in four years.
- Unemployment Claims: Slight uptick indicating rising layoffs.
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Investor Behavior:
- Shift to Bonds: Investors moving funds from stocks to bonds for safety, increasing bond demand and lowering yields, which subsequently reduces mortgage rates.
“When people take money out of the stock market and put it into bonds, it increases demand for bonds because everyone wants them, and that pushes yields down.”
— Dave Meyer [15:20]
Impact:
Lower mortgage rates are beneficial for real estate investors, making financing cheaper. However, they are a response to broader economic uncertainties, indicating potential underlying economic weaknesses.
GDP Projections and Investor Behavior
A significant focus is placed on the GDP Now tool from the Atlanta Fed, which predicts the economic growth trajectory.
“The GDP Now tool has revised its prediction from +2% to -2.5% for Q1 2025.”
— Dave Meyer [17:45]
Implications of GDP Decline:
- Economic Contraction: Negative GDP growth suggests a potential recession, affecting consumer spending and investment confidence.
- Investor Reaction: Shift towards bonds as a safe haven, further lowering mortgage rates.
Economic Outlook and Potential Recession Scenarios
Meyer explores possible economic futures and their impact on the real estate market.
- First-In, First-Out Scenario:
- Real estate being the most leveraged asset class, it typically leads economic downturns.
- If a recession occurs, real estate would suffer first, followed by the broader economy.
- Post-recession, lowering interest rates could stimulate the real estate market first, potentially aiding economic recovery.
“Real estate is the first in, first out in a classic economic cycle.”
— Dave Meyer [21:10]
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Blip in Economic Data:
- Temporary downturn in economic indicators could lead to minor rate adjustments without a full-blown recession.
- Mortgage rates might slightly increase, continuing the current softening trend without a market crash.
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Stagflation Risk:
- A less likely but severe scenario where the economy contracts while inflation rises.
- Currently, inflation is flat, reducing the immediate risk of stagflation.
“It is okay for your investing thesis or hypothesis to be that it is uncertain. It is better to admit that than to act on a false interpretation or false certainty.”
— Dave Meyer [23:50]
Current Consensus:
Meyer leans towards the first scenario, where real estate's volatility could signal the beginning of broader economic challenges.
Implications for Real Estate Investors
Given the market's softening and economic uncertainties, Meyer provides strategic insights for investors.
“Any market where inventory is going up rapidly has the biggest chances of price growth slowing.”
— Dave Meyer [25:00]
Key Takeaways:
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Negotiating Power:
- Increased inventory allows buyers to negotiate better deals.
- Aim to purchase below asking price to leverage potential future declines.
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Buyer’s Market Advantage:
- In a softening market, buyers hold more power.
- However, caution is necessary as prolonged softening could lead to significant price drops.
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Affordability and Demand:
- Lower mortgage rates enhance housing affordability, potentially reigniting demand even in a weaker economy.
- “Housing demand is almost always tied to affordability.”
— Dave Meyer [25:45]
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Investment Strategy:
- Focus on regions with rising inventory and moderated price growth.
- Monitor economic indicators closely to adjust strategies proactively.
Personal Insights:
Meyer shares his optimistic outlook on finding deals in the coming months, despite current challenges.
“There is a lot of risk in these kinds of markets. But the upside is there and might even actually be growing throughout 2025.”
— Dave Meyer [28:10]
He advises investors to remain vigilant, leveraging buyer’s market conditions to secure advantageous deals while being mindful of the broader economic landscape.
Conclusion
Dave Meyer wraps up the episode by reinforcing the significance of staying informed and adaptable in a fluctuating housing market. He encourages listeners to engage with the content, share their interpretations, and continuously refine their investment strategies based on emerging data and trends.
“If you're watching this on YouTube, let us know how you are interpreting this housing market and what decisions you are making about your own portfolio.”
— Dave Meyer [30:00]
Final Thoughts:
The March 2025 housing market presents a landscape of cautious optimism. While price appreciation has slowed, increased inventory offers strategic opportunities for savvy investors. Understanding regional variances and staying attuned to economic indicators will be crucial in navigating the path forward.
Disclaimer:
The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All opinions expressed are those of the host and do not constitute financial advice. Investment in real estate involves risk, and listeners should consult with qualified advisors before making investment decisions.