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And this is perfect characteristic of a correction and not a crash. We have been in a market that is worse and worse for sellers and better and better for buyers. Actually, there is a study that just came out from Redfin. It's pretty amazing chart. I'll throw it up for people who are looking on YouTube that it is the strongest buyer's market on record. Now, take this with a grain of salt, because Redfin doesn't go back in time. Their data only goes back to 2013. So this is not during the Great Recession. But, you know, for the last 12 years, we're in the best buyer's market that we have seen. And when sellers see that and say, hey, buyers have all of the power in this market, they're like, I don't want to sell right now. I'm not going to get a good Price, I'm not going to get good terms, and therefore I am not choosing to list my property for sale. And so when you take these things into account, when you look at both demand being, you know, up a little bit, when you see inventory going up, but not that much, you get a pretty balanced market. Right? If you have a relative balance between supply and demand, you're going to see a pretty flat market. And that's exactly what we saw. I actually said in the beginning of last year, about one year ago that we were probably gonna have a pretty flat market back in 2025. And that's exactly what happened. We have a pretty balanced market. We actually get the final numbers here from Redfin. They're kind of the first people to issue this. We hear from other sources like Case Shiller and Zillow a little bit later. But Redfin says that last year, year over year growth was just 0.5%. That's as darn close to flat as you can pretty much imagine. And so we had a flat year in the housing market in 2025. This is part of the thesis I've had about being in the Great Stall. Just to remind everyone, I think we are going to be in a flat market for several years, barring some black swan event or some crazy geopolitical thing that happens or quantitative easing. If we stay on the path we're on, I think that we are going to have several flat years in the housing market last year that proved correct. And so far in 2026, when we're looking at this supply and demand data that I've been talking about, it looks like we're staying on that trajectory. Now, of course, there are huge regional differences. We've seen this for the last couple of years. But during COVID everyone got used to every market going up. That's not normally what happens in the market. We still have some markets that are growing like crazy. Detroit up 9% year over year. Newark, New Jersey 8%. Warren, Michigan 8%, New York City 5%. Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, places in Wisconsin, all up above the pace of inflation. We have several markets, a couple dozen markets basically that have real price growth. That's inflation adjusted price growth. But the number of cities that are seeing corrections is growing. Dallas now takes the spot. Austin, its neighbor just a few hours away. We were just there on the Texas roadshow. Dallas now takes the spot for the biggest declines in pricing in the country at negative 8% year over year, followed by Oakland, California at 6%. Austin still up there. Still top three worst performing markets at minus 4%. San Jose, Miami, all there. Basically. You know, when you look at the top 10, top 20 worst performing markets, they're all in California, Florida and Texas, three of the biggest population and land mass states in the country. I don't know what to make of that, but those are the worst performing markets right now. A couple other things to note just about housing market conditions that can help inform your decision making is that the typical home days on market actually spent 60 days on market. That is the longest it has taken to sell a home in more than a decade. I'm sure anyone who's flipping a house is feeling that right now and that hurts. But for anyone who's looking to buy a house, that's really good news. This is one of the things that we are seeing in the market that you as an investor should be taking advantage of, right? If you're seeing homes sit on the market longer, that is an invitation for you to bid below asking price, right? We already seeing a flat market. We are seeing homes sit on the market longer. These are conditions where sellers, if they want to move their home, they are often going to have to sell below list price. And this isn't just me saying that. This is actually a measurable thing that you see in the data. The average home right now is selling for 2% below list price. So you as an investor, that means you should be offering at most 98% of what the list price is. And that's average. That's for home buyers. As an investor, you should be thinking, how do I get even more equity out of this deal? How do I buy this thing for 5, 7, 10% below list price? And frankly, you should not just be thinking about list price. One of the main tips I've been giving people, and you should remember for buying in this kind of market is buy below comps. Don't just take what the seller wants for their property and say, I'll get 2% below that. Figure out for yourself with your agent or doing your own comps, figure out what the property is really worth in today's market. Not 2022, not 2023, what is it worth today? And get a discount on that. That is the best way to invest in a flat market, right? Because you're still getting equity because you're buying below current comps. You're not waiting for the market to grow for you. You're getting your equity through negotiation. And the fact that properties are sitting on the market for 60 days means that you have leverage in that negotiation. All right? So that's the big picture stuff that's going on in the housing market. But we obviously want to turn our attention to what's going to happen in 2026 and if this trend is going to continue. And as we've talked about a lot on this show, I think because affordability is so low, the direction of the housing market is really going to be dictated by the direction of mortgage rates. And we're going to talk about which way mortgage rates are going right after this break.

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Welcome back to the BiggerPockets podcast. I'm Dave Meyer. This is our January 20, 2026 housing market update. Before the break we talked about basic housing market conditions that are going on and now we're going to turn our attention to what happens from here because mortgage rates are our big predictor of the market this year. Now that's not some hot take, I'm sure everyone is saying that. But if you haven't listened to some of these shows before, I'll just briefly give you my thesis about the housing market. All comes down to affordability is too unaffordable to buy homes in most of these markets and so we need something to get better in terms of affordability if we are going to see the housing market increase in terms of volume and pricing. Now there are three parts of affordability. Home prices which we've said are flat wages which are going up but that takes a really long time and mortgage rates. So if we're expecting something in affordability to change dramatically in the next year, it's probably going to be mortgage rates. I'm not saying that's what's going to happen. It's just has the biggest potential to change out of any of those three variables. So I really think we're going to need to watch mortgage rates closely this year. We want to understand the housing market. Now we started this year 2026 with mortgage rates around 6.25% which doesn't sound amazing to people, but just want to call out that is a full percentage point below where we were a year ago. That's worth celebrating. The reason why I said demand was up over the last year, it's because affordability got better. Prices were flat, wages went up, mortgage rates went down modestly. That's a combination for affordability getting better, not a lot better. We got a long way to go, but it's still better than where it was a year ago. And that's really good news. Now, we've had some interesting moves in terms of mortgage rates since the beginning of the year. Now, if you looked at the exact right second, you probably noticed that the 30 year fix, the average mortgage rate on 30 year fixed actually dropped under 6 for just a minute. If you blinked, you probably missed it because it was at 5.99 for just a single day. It was beautiful while it lasted, but it did not last. As of today, it is back up to 6.2%. Now, the reason it dropped down was because the Trump administration announced $200 billion of mortgage backed security buying by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. And I talked about this in detail, if you want to listen and understand this in detail. Back in December, I did a mortgage rate prediction for 2026 and I talked about mortgage backed securities and how the government can actually move mortgage rates down without the Fed. Because the Fed, as you've seen, when the Fed lowers rates, it does not move mortgage rates right now. Sometimes they are related, but they're not directly correlated. They are not linked in lockstep. Mortgage backed security buying is different. When the government buys mortgage backed securities, mortgage rates almost always go down. And that's what we're seeing. $200 billion of that, not enough to move the market significantly, but experts say that that alone has taken 0.25 or 25 basis points off your mortgage rate. So that's what brought us from 6.25 at the beginning of the year down to 6%. So although there has been some encouraging signs, I don't think we have seen the magical piece of either policy or economic news or anything else that is really going to move mortgage rates beyond my predictions. I said last year I think the range is going to be five and a half to six and a half. Sticking with that, I said the average for the year is going to be around 6.1%. We're probably about that for the year right now. It's going to be volatile, it's going to go up and down, but that's where my average is for the year. And unfortunately I think that means we are only going to get modest improvements for affordability in the housing market this year. What we've seen is wages keep growing. I think they're going to compress a little bit. But I'm optimistic that wages are going to keep growing this year. I think we'd have another flat year of housing prices, maybe a little bit down. And so I do think affordability is going to improve this year, but it's going to be very modest. It's certainly not getting back to Covid levels, it's not getting back to 2010 levels. I don't even think it's getting back to historical levels. But this is what I mean by the great stall. This is going to take time. I've literally been saying this since 2023. These are the things that have to happen for three, four, five years before the housing market becomes healthy again. We're three years into it and I think we have two or three years more. Unless something crazy happens now. Will something crazy happen? I don't know. The world feels a little crazy to me right now. Like we might get quantitative easing this year. That's literally the trillion dollar question for 2026. But as long as things stay in the realm of normal, I think we're staying for a boring year in the housing market. Slow sales, flat to modestly declining prices, but modestly improving affordability. So before we move on from mortgage rates though, I do wanted to say one other quick thing. You know, a lot is made in the media about delinquencies and foreclosures. Personally, I think it's a lot of fear mongering at the current rate because if you actually look at it, delinquencies across the board, the number of people not paying their mortgage, probably the number one indicator for a market crash. Delinquencies, they went down last month, both for 30 days and 90 days. So I know people say it takes a while for them to work their way through the courts. If you look at it at almost every level, delinquencies are actually down. Active foreclosures are actually up. They're up 20% from last year because we did see the ending of certain programs, FHA and VA loans. There is a moratorium on foreclosures for a while. That was up last year, so they naturally went up. But they are already starting to level out according to the data that we're seeing. And I just want to call out, even though foreclosures are up 20% year over year. You're going to see that on social media, I promise you. Someone who's trying to sell you something or to scare you is going to tell you that foreclosure rates are up 20% year over year. But remember this, they are still 40% below pre pandemic levels. No one was freaking out about foreclosures in 2019. Maybe you weren't investing then, but no one was talking about foreclosures because it wasn't a problem. And we are still 40% below that. So just keep that in mind. If you hear this news. I just want everyone to know there is no forced selling. We're seeing new listings at the lowest point it's been in two years and we are seeing delinquencies down. Those are two signs that the market is not going to crash. Right now there is no evidence of a market crash. The slow recovery of affordability, the slow recovery of the housing market. It's not the sexiest thing. That's why not a lot of people talk about it. But it is the most likely scenario and it's exactly what's playing out right now. So for the immediate future, just to summarize things, look on track for forecasts. We're going to take a quick break. But after that break, I'm going to share some insights into how the biggerpockets community all of you listening to this podcast. Our community here is planning to take advantage of the many opportunities that are seen in the market this year. We'll get to that right after this quick break. 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Welcome Back to the BiggerPockets podcast. I'm Dave Meyer. This is our January 20, 2026 housing market update. Before the break, we talked about mortgage rates. We also talked about basic housing market conditions that show that we are in the Great Stall. And a lot of the principles, the ideas, the tactics that work that I've talked about in the Great Stall are still working. So that's good news, right? If you want to listen to some episodes about more tactical stuff, you can go back. We've done a lot of episodes about the Great Stall or the Upside era. Those are still things that work in this market so great news for us and in this community. But it's not just my ideas that matter, right? We actually at BiggerPockets wanted to go out and learn. Are people optimistic? What do people think about the great style? Is it a good time to invest? And we've collected that data and I want to share with you some insights here because I think that has real practical applications here for our community and might give you some confidence and some ideas about how to grow your own portfolio here in 2026. The big headline from the data is investors are optimistic. I don't care what your uncle says or what everyone else says about the housing market right now. Frankly, for homeowners, it's a tough time to buy a primary residence right now in a lot of places if you're not going to do value add. But for investors, people are feeling, rightfully so, in my opinion, that conditions are improving and are feeling that they're going to get even better here in 2026. We found this out because we basically asked two different questions. The first one is like, how do investing conditions compare to a year ago and how are they going to change? And if you look at the answers, people didn't feel like last year was very good. And I like that because I think it lends us a little bit of credibility, right? Like if people are like, last year is great, next year is going to be even greater. There's some bias in that data, right? Maybe it's because we were polling real estate investors, but people are pretty honest that 2025 stunk. You know, I talked to Henry, we were on the roadshow and he was just talking like, 2025 kicked a lot of people's asses, let's just be honest about it. But 2026 people are feeling better about because it's a little bit more predictable. 25 was the time we went from a market where prices were going up every year. You know, we still, despite high rates in 23 and 24, prices were going up 5, 6, 7, 8% for a flipper, for any sort of buy and hold investor, for a brrrr investor, those are good conditions. Now, when you're buying in 2025, assuming those things are going to continue, but we get a flat year, that makes for a tough year for a lot of investors. Now, I did some good deals. I think a lot of people did good deals, but that's a tough year to navigate. But since we're in 2026, people are feeling optimistic because the housing market is more predictable. I think we Know that we're in a great stall and we are seeing housing prices start to come down. Negotiating positions are better. We actually asked, we were like, why are you so optimistic? Right? Because maybe people are just optimists. But the reasons that people cited for their optimism in the housing market is, number one, they think lower mortgage rates. That's not by a lot. I do think rates will come down a little bit. Like I said, I think last year was averaging in the six. You know, mid sixes, I think will be low sixes this year. So that's true. But the two other ones, which are almost equal in terms of popularity for the biggest opportunity in residential real estate this year was better ability to negotiate. I love that. That's exactly what we were talking about early in the episode. I think this is the number one tactical thing that people should be doing right now, being super patient and negotiating. And number two, better deal flow, better inventory. I've said this recently, but there are just better deals on the market. There are three things in combination. Better deal flow, better ability to negotiate, and potentially better mortgage rates. Those are great conditions for anyone who wants to be a buy and hold investor. You're seeing better assets, things that you really want to hold on to. You have a better ability to earn equity through negotiation. You don't even have to do anything other than negotiate, but you can do that. And number three, if you get affordability improvements, that's going to increase your cash flow. All those things combined are good reasons to be optimistic. I understand why optimism is increasing, and I want everyone in the audience to think of these three things as tactical things that you can be doing. Now, you don't control mortgage rates, so that's not one. But better ability to negotiate, increasing inventory. These are things that you should be taking with you from this episode. Right now. You have more opportunity to look at deals, so go look at all of them. Look at more stuff. If you were analyzing three deals a week last year, do eight right now. Because I promise you there's more stuff for you to look at, and you should look at as many of them as you can because you don't know which seller is going to be the most willing to negotiate with you. Now, like I said, your ability to negotiate is absolutely going up. Don't get me wrong, but not every seller is willing to accept a lower price. Not every seller has had their property sit on the market long enough for them to accept, hey, what I'm asking for is not really reasonable. And I'm going to have to accept A lower offer, those are not in your control. But patience in your negotiation, that is in your control. And that's what the BiggerPockets community is planning to do this year and what I encourage all of you listening here today to do in your own investing as well. Now, among our audience, not super surprising here, but by far the most popular strategy for next year is long term rentals. That includes birth, that includes rent by the room, it includes house hacking, stuff like that. Flipping is the second most popular. And I was kind of surprised to see we've seen midterm and short term rentals fall below both of those pretty far over the last couple of years. I think what people are seeing now with this flat housing market is maybe it's time to just go back to buying great assets that you want to hold on to for the next 10 years. That's personally what I've recommended. When we talk about the upside era and the great stall that we're in, it's time to buy great assets that you want to hold on to forever. And that's the plan of the bigger pockets community right now. Now, I don't want to pretend that everything is rosy. There are real challenges in the housing market. And I just want to call out the number one challenge because I think this is something we all need to keep an eye on. It's rising expenses. I actually thought it was going to be bad deal flow or I don't have enough money or I don't know what to do next. But rising expenses, especially among experienced investors, are by far the biggest challenge that people are seeing. So this is something I encourage everyone to keep a really close eye on as they manage their portfolio. I am guilty of this. I think everyone who's a real estate investor is guilty of this at some point in your investing. But you're like, I analyze that deal, it gets a 9% cash on cash return. I'm fine. But like, did you reanalyze that deal in year two, in year three, in year four? Because if you have seen your taxes go up, like everyone, if you have seen your insurance go up, like everyone, your maintenance costs go up, maybe that's not getting 9%, maybe it's getting 4%, maybe it's getting 2%. And maybe that's just something you have to deal with right now during this kind of market until rents start going up, which I do think will happen in the latter half of this year, maybe into next year. But I digress. What I'm saying is maybe that's something you deal with. But the other thing is, maybe you could be doing something to better optimize that portfolio. That might mean adding value. Maybe you can renovate and get more rents. Maybe you can add an ADU and get more rents. Maybe instead of renovating, you sell that property and turn it into something else. But I highly recommend. It's the beginning of the year. It's a great time to do this. If you have not done this yet, take some time and reanalyze your deals. Go look at what your expenses at. How have they changed over the last year? Are they growing faster than your rent? Is your return on equity increasing or decreasing? If you don't know how to do these things, you can check out Biggerpockets. We have tons of resources. Both of my books cover these things. You can check those out there. But go do that. Go analyze your deals right now. Because I agree that this is a big challenge for real estate investors, but it's really only a big challenge if you don't know what's happening. Well, it's actually just a bigger challenge if you don't know what's happening. Right? If you're just sitting there like, oh, expenses are fine. They might not be. So go and make sure that your deals are still performing. This is one great insight from the Biggerpockets community I think you should all take away here today. Last thing I wanted to mention, that despite those challenges, and they are real by far, most Biggerpockets community members are planning to grow. Nearly 60% of them are planning to increase their portfolio size this next year. 25% are saying that they're going to optimize their existing portfolio, and only 4% are planning to sell. So I just wanted to share that because I know there's a lot of noise and media attention to the housing market. A lot of people are saying this industry is dead or it doesn't work. I completely disagree. It's just a change of tactics. And if you follow some of the plans that we've talked about on the show that we talk about every week on this show, there are absolutely still great ways to increase your portfolio. And generally speaking, that's what the BiggerPockets community is planning to do in 2026, I hope that's the plan for you all as well. And even if you don't plan to buy, think about ways to optimize your portfolio. Think about ways to put yourself in a position to buy next year, improve your financial situation. All that is still investing. Like, you don't have to go and transact. It's all about the mindset of putting yourself in a position to grow your portfolio long term. That might not mean you're buying today or next month, or maybe even not this year, but keep listening, keep learning, and keep putting yourself in a position so that you can strike when the time is right for you. That's the game plan for me for 2026, and it's what I recommend for all of you. Thanks so much for listening for our January 2026 housing market update. I'm Dave Meyer with Bigger Pockets and we'll see y' all next time.

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